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Storyline wise, the 4 star wanted level in San Andreas is due to Hernandez calling CJ to tell him that CRASH was watching him and that leaving town would be a big mistake since he was being blackmailed and in that case, framed for Officer Pendlebury’s murder
@@anobody0 as roman said "terrorists, it's been a big scare so we can't cross the bridges so good" or something like that, at the beginning of the game
I'm guessing that tenpenny also has contacts in the San fierro and Las Venturas police departments which would make sense why cj earns a wanted level for entering San fierro and Las Venturas before unlocking both areas
"Why don't you show me around the city?" "Fucking terrorists." "What?" "Terrorists. There's been a big scare and you can't go across the bridges so good."
I personally loved that. Makes every chapter cool as you were unlocking new areas to explore. Having the map 100% open from the get go made the map feel, ehh... Less new by the end game
Yes sure but it is also amazing that we can find some stuff which explain us what happened in games that for example bridges in Vice City are unlocked. It's very nice for us😄
I agree... I love that about the classic GTA games.... you have progress through the storyline in order to see the entire map My favorite game that does it is GTA 3 and Liberty City Stories... it felt like you had to earn full map access lol... it felt satisfying
I didn't like that 'cause still to this day when I play for example GTA San Andreas I feel kinda more familiar with Los Santos than with the rest of the map. If you don't have any missions in those places there's no incentive to even go there unless you really wanna explore. Again, you don't gain nothing by exploring the map in terms of gaining some progress or something so it never really made sense to me to have those bridges blocked.
I remember being mad that I couldn’t leave the first island in vice city. I was super happy once the bridges opened up but looking back now, it was a good idea. The map is small and I did get bored with it but the story was great! That was the first GTA game I played
GTA Vice City was a big city to explore at the time. I would easily get lost especially in the beach areas. The other areas locked were good but not good enough. And Vice City felt bigger and had more interesting places to explore than the other cities did.
i was the opposite since i played vcs first and got bored of the mainland lmao after unlocking vice city beach it was beautiful with more colors thats why i liked it better than the mainland
The 1988 earthquake in gta sa is a nod to the 1989 earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area that actually collapsed part of the old double decker highway/bay bridge, which is what the expressway bridge is based off of.
@@JackPorter You can't go to the San Fierro due to CRASH warns us not too, because we have been framed as the killer of Pendelbury (while the true ones are CRASH). Hernandez has warned us to stay in Los Santos in the beginning of the game.
I get why terrorism was redacted in GTA3. All the closures was just blamed in a hurricane. But the flying tank cheat will get you past that. Spawn the rino after walking around the barrier. Activate the cheat. Accelerate at full speed while firing the main weapon behind you. Aim carefully.
I know this is a joke but where I live a bridge way delayed for two years (took five years all together to finish) because of crab spawning/nesting areas
Honestly closed islands forces the player to explore the current area instead of running away and getting lost. It gave the games character and without it they feel barren and empty. Such as gta 5 feels only like a giant island in the middle of nowhere vs a community of islands.
I’m glad that I ain’t the only one thinking that. The bridges or excuses of bridges being closed until a certain event allows us a part of the map to be unlocked and when the storyline gets closer to the conclusion, the whole map is open to explore.
I agree. Leaving the whole map open at the start would quickly bore the heck out of me. I'm glad they give us bits and pieces of the area at the start until we reach certain levels of progress and they treat us to a new map. I never minded it. People keep complaining about how "other franchises could do it why can't GTA". Well with all due respect, there's a reason why old GTA games still stood the test of time while the other franchises (as much as I enjoy them) are called the GTA-copy. It's all about pacing. If you have everything in this world you would just want more, if you're restricted, you'll appreciate it more when you get something new.
@@thewhitewolf58 they totally should have done 2 cities, or made 1 massive city like GTA 4s Liberty City, and included all the neighborhoods because it didn’t feel like Los Angeles size wise
In GTAV, Michael and Trevor are banned in Los Santos and it happened mid-game. At least, the concept of area blocking is still there in later games. Also in RDR2, southern West Elizabeth is restricted until before the epilogue.
I find this interesting because whenever I hear the radio stations they say things like, all bridges have closed down, like in San Andreas the bridges were closed down due to an earthquake, and and Vice cities bridge were closed down due to a hurricane storm, just like in vice city stories, also due to a hurricane though.
I remember firing up GTA 3 every day for years as a kid and being disappointed the bridge still wasn’t open. I didn’t know you had to beat the missions to open it.
I'm pretty sure the bridges are usually closed just to make it feel like a big achievement after doing a couple of missions It's kinda like how in gta 3 and gta vc, you can't swim due to technology being limited so they made up a story later to make it seem more reasonable.
@@Nefare1781 they meant the no swimming problem. Those are the stories behind the no swimming. There are petrol spills in gta3 and sharks in Vice city.
I always loved hearing the sarcastic and satirical commentary on the radio in GTA games about not only the in-game events but also background environment. In the HD universe you can even online news paper articles reporting on missions you complete in the story, which I felt was pretty cool
That’s pretty cool. In GTA V on bleeter, people are talking about mercenaries that tried to shot down a crop duster, a sinking ship in LS Port and shooting sounds from Michael’s house and more and more. Nice detail
I like to think of the bridges as "difficulty gates", just as you can only have a maximum of 4 stars at the beginning of the game. Bridges eventually open and you can reach 5, and eventually, 6 once you progress further enough into the game (harder missions, etc, etc)
@@jdavis6646 at the beginning of the games, you can only acquire up to 4 wanted stars (the point where the police choppers are all over you), as well as the other locations (such as Las Venturas and San Fierro in GTA San Andreas) being locked until you progress further into the story. Accessing these locked locations early, via cheats or exploits, causes you to instantly gain 4 wanted stars. As you progress through the story and the locations open up, you'll be able to earn up to 5 stars wanted level (Military Intervention) and 6 stars wanted level (Tanks everywhere)
A very interesting and informative video on a very underrated topic of lore on the games. I always loved that each time bridges were closed in the game, it also had an in game explanation for the closure, Which I think really brings the world to life for what is essentially a practical, gameplay progression restriction.
What about the elevator bridge in Liberty City and the ferries? Well, the ferries were on a strike, because the workers were worried they may lose their jobs once the Callahan Bridge opens. The elevator bridge was also closed by the striking workers, who were worried they may lose their jobs because of the planned tunnel extension. In GTA III, the tunnels were obviously yet to be finished at the start of the game, while the elevator bridge's lifting mechanism reportedly broke down.
Hello there! Yes, we excluded Shoreside Lift Bridge and the ferries and here's why.. Our main goal was to present the most important objects when it comes to crossing other islands. Since we included Porter Tunnel (by the way in some way related to the ferries) or Callahan Bridge, there was a lot of talking about union strikes in 1998. So we felt that it's not necessary to put Shoreside Lift Bridge since it was related to strikes as well. And besides there's not much to tell here.. maybe except radio announcements. But we hope you enjoyed episode nevertheless 🙂
Just looking at the thumbnail alone, I already have an answer to that question. The bridges were originally blocked because Rockstar had a thing where they wanted their playerbase to play through the story before getting the chance to explore the map. A method Rockstar abandoned partly in GTA V. I say partly because yes we have access to the entire map but we have to explore the map to open it up in the pause menu, if that made sense.
From a game design standpoint, It was likely to treat each area of the map as a "unlockable area". It encouraged players to do missions in a organic way. Same for weapons, Gta3 starts off with just a bat and pistol, then as you do more missions you unlock the uzi, sniper, rocket launcher and M16
I always liked how the worlds would open up, and usually they would make it make sense. Like how in Vice City there was a hurricane watch thing going on inbound! Good stuff!
in gta sa tempenny might also be also be a cause as cj recives a call from hermandez after a few missions telling him that Tempenny said not to leave los santos, which might also be the cause of the 4 star wanted level if we leave
Also to note about the tunnels in GTA 3 leading to the upstate, Rockstar created them to so players felt like there was more to explore in the map. It gave the illusion that, players were not cut off from the outside world, but could not access it due to having to solve problems in Liberty City. Also, the other GTA maps like Vice City, Modern Liberty CIty, and San Andreas are attached to the mainland. Rockstar did not want to actually show how they were connected because it would make the map look bad. And, also because in these maps, they wanted the player to fully immerse themselves in the games map. Some players also believe that it gave maps the feeling of loneliness, being cut off from the outside world.
@@badbread1579 Liberty City in GTA 4 would have been connected to the mainland US via Alderney. San Andreas in GTA 5 would have been connected on the eastern side of the map. In GTA 5, Lester mentions that they are in Southern San Andreas and that the water north of Paleto Bay is actually a river. You can see evidence of this by going to the eastern side of San Andreas and looking at how unnatural the coast looks. Other reasons why we don't see the mainland on these games, tech limitations, space for the game, and like I mention above, to have a better esthetic when playing. They really wanted to take advantage of the whole idea that Americans only focus on their part of the country only and no one else.
To be honest, this will be one of the things I'll miss in game, specifically GTA. It's just a guilty pleasure I have with progression, just feels rewarding the first time actually having to work to explore a new area. That and consequential if you did want to go over the boundaries to get a 'sneak peak' with a high wanted level. I'm doubting future installments will include any of this.
Gta San Andreas is my favorite because I managed to complete all available side activities in the locked territories with a constant 4 star wanted level like collectibles and side missions.
I always taught why the bridge is blocked in GTA Vice City! And then once i completed the Military mission the bridge got unlocked and made me more love into that game because of that!
6:05 a lot of people are also not aware but in vice city the hurricane DOES ACTUALLY COME. as in the games code, one of the weather patterns is under the name "hurricane." it is how ever just a very heavy rain storm and wind. I do not remember if it comes in vcs aswell but i assume no.
Let's not forget GTA, you have a bridge that is "being worked on" until you progress to a certain point in the game. Or you could just use a penetrator and drive over it at full speed. Then there is using a tank and it's missiles to do the same after you have made the first jump and you steal the tank of course.
Too bad that the games then didn't have it where when you crash, it sends u flying through the windshield sending you like 20 ft ahead. With that the player could go over the barrier.
Blocked bridges to new areas of the map is just there to give a message to the player, to complete the story before progressing. It is to block access until you progress the story.
🤔 idk did you know in the movie the dark knight rises, the Batman movie, the villain Bane also destroys all the bridges in Gotham city. It seems like in fictional version of NYC the bridges are always getting destroyed.
@@cdthree3805 Yea, but in game design theory, the game designers design what should happen, so we cannot overwrite the story just because we like to, we just have to roll with the punches and deal with it, lol. Also Grand Theft Auto series isn't about Batman, so it would make sense not to be about Batman. That is also a good point. The thing is, if you want Batman, go play PS1 games Batman & Robin or Gotham City Racer. Then tell me if you enjoy Batman again. You might or you won't. 😹 I believe Grand Theft Auto should follow their original story which has a formula that works, breaking from that game formula will just lead to strange results in some cases maybe not all the time, but it's important not to change the fabric of the game too much to preserve the game's identity and vibe.
@@cougar-town Bro a lot of writers, Hollywood and game creators are Freemasons. I don’t think you understand that. You think they’re just writing their own unique creations but a lot of them follow Masonic teachings. The bridges being destroyed in entertainment and media in what is portrayed as NYC is Masonic teachings. If you live here in the US you should know this is a Masonic country. The founding fathers, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson etc. were all Freemasons.
@@cougar-town It’s why there is a Mason hall pretty much everywhere you go in America. There is a local mason hall near you too. Type whatever city you live in and mason lodge and you’ll find it.
I also liked how they blocked it but still let you get over there through tricky ways, it makes it exciting getting over there when you normally can’t do it, especially when it gives you stars and the cops chase you. It’s good that they let you get there another way and didn’t just add a full invisible barrier to not let you get there
If I recall correctly, Upstate Liberty *was* meant to be in GTA3 and 4, but for GTA3’s case, it was scrapped because consoles couldn’t handle a huge map and because of the time crunch, and in GTA4, Upstate Liberty was scrapped simply because the developers wanted to make the game more compact to have a fully fleshed out city and story, and not worry so much about the size of the game.
If I was rockstar games, I could’ve saved a beta map of upstate liberty so players deserve a countryside road trip to explore. Maybe even having some missions for Claude set after the main storyline where he is hunted down by every gang he pissed off from the favors and missions of gang leaders. It would be amazing to see Claude working for the Zaibatsu Corporation like he did for gta 2. As well as some bikers and maybe have some plot points and plot holes filled up, even who leads the Leone family after Sals death.
@@elperrodelautumo7511 Maybe he flees Liberty with Maria after Shoreside Vale and has to work with Zaibatsu or CJ or someone to escape upstate, maybe even return to San Fierro.
I think the game radio explains the logical reason IN GAME for it GTA: III callahan bridge is in disrepair, porter tunnel is constructed GTA: VC Hurricane warning GTA: SA corrupted Tempenny closed them bridges
There's no other video game series out that goes into so much background lore as the GTA games. This helps with immersion of the game and one of the many reasons why no other series comes close...
In addition to spoiling new areas too soon, it keeps your focus in the areas where missions are. Also, even if you get to a new area particularly in San Andreas, though you can enter some places there is nothing to do you cant buy safe houses there. Unless you use a no wanted level cheat, you cant explore without the police going after you.
I actually loved this feature, it always felt amazing when you unlock new part of the map, and I like how there is always a reason why the bridges are closed (hurricane, earthquake etc.) I missed this feature in GTA V. Having the whole map open from the beginning felt overwhelming and unrewarding
However. It may be bigger but GTA V feels "smaller" since you only have two official areas, maybe 3 "cities" but they feel too small. Sandy Shores and Paleto Bay feel more like towns than actual "cities". Only so much one can explore there. Sure we also have Mount Chiliad but again, isn't a place I'd really visit
@@carlosdasilva2409 I never liked maps in GTA IV or V exactly because they felt big but empty. While in GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas every area had something to do, especially if you are trying to complete them 100%
@@MarkoVuckovic32 Exactly. To this day I still find entertaining to boot up San Andreas and have some fun around the map. Whether it is unleashing chaos, exploring or just wandering aimlessly until I find something that catches my eye. GTA IV feels a little "empty" on certain areas but free roam is still entertaining. GTA V however...I just get bored of it. It's not like there is much to do despite the secondary missions. Heck, even collectibles feel like they give mediocre rewards. The "alien" buggy looks odd and cool but I don't see it as a proper reward, the notes give you I think it was 10 bucks and the nuclear waste is the most "rewarding" in terms of money (but I don't remember if the quest alone is enough to recover the money spent on the dock). Back in San Andreas we unlocked cars for doing certain secondary quests, free amo/weapons for certain collectibles, heck. 100%ing the game gave you a frickin' tank and a hydra (things you can access more easily in GTA V so eh). I didn't even bother 100% GTA V, so I don't know if it's even worth it. Don't get me wrong, the story is good, the game isn't bad at all. It just doesn't feel like it is worth completing EVERYTHING from it haha
I kinda wish roads like the upstate tunnel of liberty city existed in the other GTA games, It sort of has the mystery and curious feeling of wanting to know what's behind them
In the beta version of GTA 4, they were going to include a part of the Upstate, which wouldve included a tunnel to drive through to get there. It was cut though, because the developers thought it was weird having a wooded area and then off 1 mile away, was the hustle and bustle of Liberty City.
GTA 3: Warning | Closed to Traffic / No Wanted Level stars GTA VC/VCS: Danger | Hurricane Warning | No Access Across Bridge / Same with GTA III GTA SA: Danger | Warning | No Access Across bridge / 4 Star wanted level + GTA IV: Road block with Cop car | 6 Star Wanted Level +
I thought the radio in Vice City said that Hurricane Hermione missed Vice City. If so, maybe it was another strong hurricane between Gordy (1984) and Hermione (1986) that decimated the huts.
Let's not forget about the LC Elevator Bridge in GTA 3 and LCS, For LCS, The strikers were still continuing thier blockage in parts of the city, because of this, the Elevator Bridge connecting Staunton Island and shoreside Vale had been closed, and for GTA 3, the elevator bridge's mechanism had broke. And it took a while to get it repaired.
In GTA: LCS, Shoreside Vale became accessible after completing the mission “Love on the Rocks,” where Salvatore Leone was arrested and imprisoned in Pike Creek for his involvement with Donald Love and his crime connections with the Leones, resulting his disqualification of his mayoral election to Miles O’Donovan. O’Donovan immediately became as the new mayor of Liberty City and officially announced the end of the workers’ strike and continued the construction of the Portland exit of the Porter Road Tunnel.
I loved that idea of limiting the player in the beginning, when I was a kid I was always looking for ways to escape the city, sometimes using a boat in the vice city or cheats, or a bug where u could jump fast with a motorcycle near the bridge it will spawn u on the bridge after the barricade, it was cool, also in san adreas taking the train and drive it fast to skip the barricades and using cheats, it was a really cool idea and it was fun for me when I was a kid I was just using passwords, create chaos and so on, I did not care about the missions or the plot.
A very interesting and very insightful video there indeed, overall very well presented too and great to look into some of the stories/theories behind things like this!😁👍👏
I think this is a very cool feature because it makes you curious how the other places look in GTA SA case, as a child I was curious af and when I'd open a new part of map id be excited so much, so it really gave some good memories
But if I were to recreate the gta 3 liberty city map into a larger and more HD version of that map. A larger Staunton island, shoreside vale, and Portland. Maybe the bridge that the ferry workers are protesting against in 98 was because it connects Portland across the bay and into the mainland. Upstate liberty. Lessing the need to use ferries in Portland, Staunton island and upstate connecting each other via ferry boat. Plus it gives better commercialism for Portland.
Bro, as a someone whose second language was English which then quickly became my primary language, listening to the narration is so jarring and funny ;D It sounds like someone just copy and pasted their script into google translate and then recorded the lines. Im not knocking it, you have to do what you have to do and obviously use the tools available but man, it sure is funny listening to the narration and picking up on little nuances
Callahan bridge must be one of the unluckiest bridges to exist. -Is delayed a lot -after complete construction 1 year later gets blown up by the cartels
All.....you brought me back to my early PS2 days.....I don't about San Andreas bridges. But I do know why Vice.City.& GTA 3.bridge closures....Fars as Vice City, the brides was closed is of you listen to Vice City news....it.clearly said "Closures to.the bridges is do.a tropical storm is coming & warns to stay off the bridges. Which means you have to complete the main island area mission so you can then do missions on the other islands....Now the reason for GTA 3 bridges to Staunton Island due to reconstruction of the bridge....which only means you have complete missions from the mainland to then Staunton Island to explore.......💯♠️♦️♥️❤♣️🖤
I found a way around the closed bridges in GTA Vice City, after seeing an online video. Sure enough it worked and I got all of the hidden packages early, even bought that big condo with the helicopter on top in Downtown. That Vice City News Chopper on top of that building downtown is a big help in gathering out of reach packages.
I’d say GTA 5 is the only game where players can roam the entire map from the get-go without penalty or blockage (excluding Fort Zancudo and LSIA, of course)
Yeah it was always like - I have to know what is in the next location and how it looks like😃 Moreover it's amazing that the story behind is so extensive.
I see that some people think that this channel is very similar to mine and that is true because that is my channel as well😀 Cheers!
Widzę, że niektórzy myślą, że ten kanał jest bardzo podobny do mojego i jest to oczywiście prawda, ponieważ należy on także do mnie😀 pozdrawiam!
O cie huj Hubson rozwija swoją organizacje w ameryce
A także widzę, że ten, który go używa, to Polak. Zajebista angielszczyzna!
Hehe, a ja pisałem, że ci film ukradli xD
Wiem wiem😄
Mam nadzieję, że naprawdę tak sądzisz 😁
Storyline wise, the 4 star wanted level in San Andreas is due to Hernandez calling CJ to tell him that CRASH was watching him and that leaving town would be a big mistake since he was being blackmailed and in that case, framed for Officer Pendlebury’s murder
i was about to point out this nvm
What about in GTA 4?
@@anobody0 as roman said "terrorists, it's been a big scare so we can't cross the bridges so good" or something like that, at the beginning of the game
I'm guessing that tenpenny also has contacts in the San fierro and Las Venturas police departments which would make sense why cj earns a wanted level for entering San fierro and Las Venturas before unlocking both areas
@@JoCaTen yep Rockstar hinted at 9/11
"Why don't you show me around the city?"
"Fucking terrorists."
"What?"
"Terrorists. There's been a big scare and you can't go across the bridges so good."
I literally opened this video solely to see if someone had commented this. My guy 😄🤙
@FRANKLIN COD MW2 yea I think they even originally had the twin towers ready for gta IV but because of… circumstances, they just removed them.
@@TheeWolfiee1 2008
@@TheeWolfiee1 nah. 9/11 happened in 2001 and they didn't even start development on gta 4 until 2004
@@ezwr3kz420 qq
I always loved how they gave a legitimate reason for islands to be inaccessible.
Meanwhile in other games featuring two or three islands like the just cause games, players have the option to either explore around or do missions
@@99mrpogi yeah it's almost like they're two completely different franchises or something.
@@sam8404 not about that
@@sam8404 different franchises doesn't change or justify the problem.
@@samedwards3285 I never said it does.
I personally loved that. Makes every chapter cool as you were unlocking new areas to explore. Having the map 100% open from the get go made the map feel, ehh... Less new by the end game
Yes sure but it is also amazing that we can find some stuff which explain us what happened in games that for example bridges in Vice City are unlocked. It's very nice for us😄
I agree... I love that about the classic GTA games.... you have progress through the storyline in order to see the entire map
My favorite game that does it is GTA 3 and Liberty City Stories... it felt like you had to earn full map access lol... it felt satisfying
idk the map not being filled in from the start on your first play through kinda helped compensate for that immersion
@@HUBSONGAMES hurricanes. Tf else you need to hear?
I didn't like that 'cause still to this day when I play for example GTA San Andreas I feel kinda more familiar with Los Santos than with the rest of the map. If you don't have any missions in those places there's no incentive to even go there unless you really wanna explore. Again, you don't gain nothing by exploring the map in terms of gaining some progress or something so it never really made sense to me to have those bridges blocked.
I remember being mad that I couldn’t leave the first island in vice city. I was super happy once the bridges opened up but looking back now, it was a good idea. The map is small and I did get bored with it but the story was great! That was the first GTA game I played
Map was big for its time
GTA Vice City was a big city to explore at the time. I would easily get lost especially in the beach areas. The other areas locked were good but not good enough. And Vice City felt bigger and had more interesting places to explore than the other cities did.
same for me
I agree. I never thought Vice City was big, just more fun than Liberty City.
i was the opposite since i played vcs first and got bored of the mainland lmao after unlocking vice city beach it was beautiful with more colors thats why i liked it better than the mainland
The 1988 earthquake in gta sa is a nod to the 1989 earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area that actually collapsed part of the old double decker highway/bay bridge, which is what the expressway bridge is based off of.
but why do you get five stars for crossing using a boat instead of using the broken bridge
@@JackPorter You can't go to the San Fierro due to CRASH warns us not too, because we have been framed as the killer of Pendelbury (while the true ones are CRASH). Hernandez has warned us to stay in Los Santos in the beginning of the game.
@@giffarysuwandi how is a street cop able to send fighter jets behind us?
So did rockstar predict the 1989 earthquake in San francisco? How else would they know about it a year prior to the earthquake
@@halilganiev4473 did you forget that gta sa was released in 2004 and not 1992
Man the 1998 to 2001 bridge is the most complicated bridge project I've ever heard in gta.
Yeah, that's absolutely true😀
@@contentcreeator111 There was a workers strike blocking the bridge.
* laughs in german build politics *
I get why terrorism was redacted in GTA3. All the closures was just blamed in a hurricane. But the flying tank cheat will get you past that.
Spawn the rino after walking around the barrier. Activate the cheat. Accelerate at full speed while firing the main weapon behind you. Aim carefully.
I know this is a joke but where I live a bridge way delayed for two years (took five years all together to finish) because of crab spawning/nesting areas
Honestly closed islands forces the player to explore the current area instead of running away and getting lost. It gave the games character and without it they feel barren and empty. Such as gta 5 feels only like a giant island in the middle of nowhere vs a community of islands.
I’m glad that I ain’t the only one thinking that. The bridges or excuses of bridges being closed until a certain event allows us a part of the map to be unlocked and when the storyline gets closer to the conclusion, the whole map is open to explore.
I agree. Leaving the whole map open at the start would quickly bore the heck out of me. I'm glad they give us bits and pieces of the area at the start until we reach certain levels of progress and they treat us to a new map. I never minded it. People keep complaining about how "other franchises could do it why can't GTA". Well with all due respect, there's a reason why old GTA games still stood the test of time while the other franchises (as much as I enjoy them) are called the GTA-copy. It's all about pacing. If you have everything in this world you would just want more, if you're restricted, you'll appreciate it more when you get something new.
Rockstar always find ways to make their worlds immersive.
Yeah and that is worth emphasizing! It's so nice to explore such things😀
Except for gta v its depressing that the only town of note is in the bottom of the map makes everywhere else feel empty.
@@thewhitewolf58 they totally should have done 2 cities, or made 1 massive city like GTA 4s Liberty City, and included all the neighborhoods because it didn’t feel like Los Angeles size wise
@@thewhitewolf58 I mean other than the big open areas around the lake and paleto bay the map is just blank mountains
In GTAV, Michael and Trevor are banned in Los Santos and it happened mid-game. At least, the concept of area blocking is still there in later games. Also in RDR2, southern West Elizabeth is restricted until before the epilogue.
Yeah by that sniper
I find this interesting because whenever I hear the radio stations they say things like, all bridges have closed down, like in San Andreas the bridges were closed down due to an earthquake, and and Vice cities bridge were closed down due to a hurricane storm, just like in vice city stories, also due to a hurricane though.
I remember firing up GTA 3 every day for years as a kid and being disappointed the bridge still wasn’t open. I didn’t know you had to beat the missions to open it.
I'm pretty sure the bridges are usually closed just to make it feel like a big achievement after doing a couple of missions It's kinda like how in gta 3 and gta vc, you can't swim due to technology being limited so they made up a story later to make it seem more reasonable.
Yes but the story behind is also very impressive😀
Petrol spills (III) and sharks (VC)
@@andreimihail3677 No, the bridges are closed in VC because of an in-game hurricane warning.
@@Nefare1781 they meant the no swimming problem. Those are the stories behind the no swimming. There are petrol spills in gta3 and sharks in Vice city.
@@PrestonBourgeois that’s Why in scarface u can swim but there’s sharks 🦈
I always loved hearing the sarcastic and satirical commentary on the radio in GTA games about not only the in-game events but also background environment. In the HD universe you can even online news paper articles reporting on missions you complete in the story, which I felt was pretty cool
That’s pretty cool. In GTA V on bleeter, people are talking about mercenaries that tried to shot down a crop duster, a sinking ship in LS Port and shooting sounds from Michael’s house and more and more. Nice detail
There's even worse than closed bridges ; an open area where enemies spawn out of thin air and an invisible sniper eventually shoots you down
@@kevonarenas4367 literally hell
@@kevonarenas4367 **cough** escaping into the new austin desert **cough**
Arthur Morgan *just* entered new Austin... *zero in on him all at once*
What game is that.
Tarkov
I like to think of the bridges as "difficulty gates", just as you can only have a maximum of 4 stars at the beginning of the game. Bridges eventually open and you can reach 5, and eventually, 6 once you progress further enough into the game (harder missions, etc, etc)
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@@jdavis6646 at the beginning of the games, you can only acquire up to 4 wanted stars (the point where the police choppers are all over you), as well as the other locations (such as Las Venturas and San Fierro in GTA San Andreas) being locked until you progress further into the story.
Accessing these locked locations early, via cheats or exploits, causes you to instantly gain 4 wanted stars. As you progress through the story and the locations open up, you'll be able to earn up to 5 stars wanted level (Military Intervention) and 6 stars wanted level (Tanks everywhere)
A very interesting and informative video on a very underrated topic of lore on the games. I always loved that each time bridges were closed in the game, it also had an in game explanation for the closure, Which I think really brings the world to life for what is essentially a practical, gameplay progression restriction.
What about the elevator bridge in Liberty City and the ferries?
Well, the ferries were on a strike, because the workers were worried they may lose their jobs once the Callahan Bridge opens. The elevator bridge was also closed by the striking workers, who were worried they may lose their jobs because of the planned tunnel extension. In GTA III, the tunnels were obviously yet to be finished at the start of the game, while the elevator bridge's lifting mechanism reportedly broke down.
I loved the ferries
Hello there! Yes, we excluded Shoreside Lift Bridge and the ferries and here's why.. Our main goal was to present the most important objects when it comes to crossing other islands. Since we included Porter Tunnel (by the way in some way related to the ferries) or Callahan Bridge, there was a lot of talking about union strikes in 1998. So we felt that it's not necessary to put Shoreside Lift Bridge since it was related to strikes as well. And besides there's not much to tell here.. maybe except radio announcements. But we hope you enjoyed episode nevertheless 🙂
Truly 3d liberty city had some major budget cuts there during late 90s and early 2000s. To have the bridges being closed down
Just looking at the thumbnail alone, I already have an answer to that question. The bridges were originally blocked because Rockstar had a thing where they wanted their playerbase to play through the story before getting the chance to explore the map. A method Rockstar abandoned partly in GTA V. I say partly because yes we have access to the entire map but we have to explore the map to open it up in the pause menu, if that made sense.
From a game design standpoint, It was likely to treat each area of the map as a "unlockable area".
It encouraged players to do missions in a organic way.
Same for weapons, Gta3 starts off with just a bat and pistol, then as you do more missions you unlock the uzi, sniper, rocket launcher and M16
The amount of quality and the way he talks about the stuff like this actually pretty interesting for such a small channel
I always liked how the worlds would open up, and usually they would make it make sense. Like how in Vice City there was a hurricane watch thing going on inbound! Good stuff!
They don't even block bridges like that in real life only in a game would they pull that BS
@@TitanicExpertJamesGrass I mean, yeah, I suppose so. 😅but at least there was somewhat of a reason as to why you couldn't go there. 😆
in gta sa tempenny might also be also be a cause as cj recives a call from hermandez after a few missions telling him that Tempenny said not to leave los santos, which might also be the cause of the 4 star wanted level if we leave
Yeah sure it is also a good reason. However we we want show other reasons as well 😄
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That is the reason. The bridges were closed in-game for CJ specifically because Tenpenny didn't want him to leave town.
very underrated channel, i love these so much
Thank You, it's so uplifting words!
i never knew the collapsed construction was caused by the earthquake. Good detail
Thank You!
Also to note about the tunnels in GTA 3 leading to the upstate, Rockstar created them to so players felt like there was more to explore in the map. It gave the illusion that, players were not cut off from the outside world, but could not access it due to having to solve problems in Liberty City. Also, the other GTA maps like Vice City, Modern Liberty CIty, and San Andreas are attached to the mainland. Rockstar did not want to actually show how they were connected because it would make the map look bad. And, also because in these maps, they wanted the player to fully immerse themselves in the games map. Some players also believe that it gave maps the feeling of loneliness, being cut off from the outside world.
Where are this Maps connected to the mainland? Have they also tunnels or something, never saw something like this.
@@badbread1579 Liberty City in GTA 4 would have been connected to the mainland US via Alderney. San Andreas in GTA 5 would have been connected on the eastern side of the map. In GTA 5, Lester mentions that they are in Southern San Andreas and that the water north of Paleto Bay is actually a river. You can see evidence of this by going to the eastern side of San Andreas and looking at how unnatural the coast looks. Other reasons why we don't see the mainland on these games, tech limitations, space for the game, and like I mention above, to have a better esthetic when playing. They really wanted to take advantage of the whole idea that Americans only focus on their part of the country only and no one else.
@@MisterMichaelVReyes Yea Gameplay reason is clear, i just was interested where they say ingame that it is connected.
Yeah if niko or Trevor wanted to they could drive to Las venturas or something but they need to fix all the problems that come in their way
To be honest, this will be one of the things I'll miss in game, specifically GTA. It's just a guilty pleasure I have with progression, just feels rewarding the first time actually having to work to explore a new area. That and consequential if you did want to go over the boundaries to get a 'sneak peak' with a high wanted level. I'm doubting future installments will include any of this.
I actually really miss this set up of having a part of the city blocked off for a while, makes you look forward to it opening up
Gta San Andreas is my favorite because I managed to complete all available side activities in the locked territories with a constant 4 star wanted level like collectibles and side missions.
I always taught why the bridge is blocked in GTA Vice City! And then once i completed the Military mission the bridge got unlocked and made me more love into that game because of that!
Damn bro. This channel has only 1 thousand subscribers? You seriously need more. I thought this would have like 100k! The quality is amazing!!
So uplifting words dude, thanks!
Because of accidents or incidents or repair plus that's how the game goes you have to work for it and earn it when other parts of the story open up
I still remember unlocking Manhattan in gta 4 that was sick
6:05 a lot of people are also not aware but in vice city the hurricane DOES ACTUALLY COME. as in the games code, one of the weather patterns is under the name "hurricane." it is how ever just a very heavy rain storm and wind. I do not remember if it comes in vcs aswell but i assume no.
In Vice city, both hurricanes actually bypassed the state and the bridges reopened.
Let's not forget GTA, you have a bridge that is "being worked on" until you progress to a certain point in the game. Or you could just use a penetrator and drive over it at full speed.
Then there is using a tank and it's missiles to do the same after you have made the first jump and you steal the tank of course.
9:45 Roman in GTA IV litterally said why the bridges were closed
When it becomes to dialogue and radio stations Rockstar has an immersive work!!
Forces you to complete your missions. It gives you that more satisfaction. Bring that side of the game back.
Love these videos cause it gives so much more info i never knew about these games ive played over so many years
Too bad that the games then didn't have it where when you crash, it sends u flying through the windshield sending you like 20 ft ahead. With that the player could go over the barrier.
Blocked bridges to new areas of the map is just there to give a message to the player, to complete the story before progressing. It is to block access until you progress the story.
🤔 idk did you know in the movie the dark knight rises, the Batman movie, the villain Bane also destroys all the bridges in Gotham city. It seems like in fictional version of NYC the bridges are always getting destroyed.
@@cdthree3805 Yea, but in game design theory, the game designers design what should happen, so we cannot overwrite the story just because we like to, we just have to roll with the punches and deal with it, lol.
Also Grand Theft Auto series isn't about Batman, so it would make sense not to be about Batman. That is also a good point.
The thing is, if you want Batman, go play PS1 games Batman & Robin or Gotham City Racer. Then tell me if you enjoy Batman again. You might or you won't.
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I believe Grand Theft Auto should follow their original story which has a formula that works, breaking from that game formula will just lead to strange results in some cases maybe not all the time, but it's important not to change the fabric of the game too much to preserve the game's identity and vibe.
@@cougar-town Bro a lot of writers, Hollywood and game creators are Freemasons. I don’t think you understand that. You think they’re just writing their own unique creations but a lot of them follow Masonic teachings. The bridges being destroyed in entertainment and media in what is portrayed as NYC is Masonic teachings. If you live here in the US you should know this is a Masonic country. The founding fathers, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson etc. were all Freemasons.
@@cougar-town It’s why there is a Mason hall pretty much everywhere you go in America. There is a local mason hall near you too. Type whatever city you live in and mason lodge and you’ll find it.
-Where's my d mn tools?
-My toolbox!
White construction worker from GTA3 ;D
I also liked how they blocked it but still let you get over there through tricky ways, it makes it exciting getting over there when you normally can’t do it, especially when it gives you stars and the cops chase you. It’s good that they let you get there another way and didn’t just add a full invisible barrier to not let you get there
We fully agree!
all fun an games til u made it to a hospital/respawn point and now have infinite 4-5 star loop.
Holy cow ur editing and voice over is superb i thought i was watching a million subs channel. Keep it up man!!! New subs here
Thanks bro, appreciate it!
If I recall correctly, Upstate Liberty *was* meant to be in GTA3 and 4, but for GTA3’s case, it was scrapped because consoles couldn’t handle a huge map and because of the time crunch, and in GTA4, Upstate Liberty was scrapped simply because the developers wanted to make the game more compact to have a fully fleshed out city and story, and not worry so much about the size of the game.
If I was rockstar games, I could’ve saved a beta map of upstate liberty so players deserve a countryside road trip to explore. Maybe even having some missions for Claude set after the main storyline where he is hunted down by every gang he pissed off from the favors and missions of gang leaders. It would be amazing to see Claude working for the Zaibatsu Corporation like he did for gta 2. As well as some bikers and maybe have some plot points and plot holes filled up, even who leads the Leone family after Sals death.
@@elperrodelautumo7511 Maybe he flees Liberty with Maria after Shoreside Vale and has to work with Zaibatsu or CJ or someone to escape upstate, maybe even return to San Fierro.
I think the game radio explains the logical reason IN GAME for it
GTA: III callahan bridge is in disrepair, porter tunnel is constructed
GTA: VC Hurricane warning
GTA: SA corrupted Tempenny closed them bridges
You missed IV
@@christianfrost8660 ok then. GTA: IV terrorist attack threat
There's no other video game series out that goes into so much background lore as the GTA games. This helps with immersion of the game and one of the many reasons why no other series comes close...
That's crazy how.much details are in open world games , I'm on mafia 2 atm
In addition to spoiling new areas too soon, it keeps your focus in the areas where missions are. Also, even if you get to a new area particularly in San Andreas, though you can enter some places there is nothing to do you cant buy safe houses there. Unless you use a no wanted level cheat, you cant explore without the police going after you.
I actually loved this feature, it always felt amazing when you unlock new part of the map, and I like how there is always a reason why the bridges are closed (hurricane, earthquake etc.) I missed this feature in GTA V. Having the whole map open from the beginning felt overwhelming and unrewarding
However. It may be bigger but GTA V feels "smaller" since you only have two official areas, maybe 3 "cities" but they feel too small.
Sandy Shores and Paleto Bay feel more like towns than actual "cities". Only so much one can explore there.
Sure we also have Mount Chiliad but again, isn't a place I'd really visit
@@carlosdasilva2409 I never liked maps in GTA IV or V exactly because they felt big but empty. While in GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas every area had something to do, especially if you are trying to complete them 100%
@@MarkoVuckovic32 Exactly. To this day I still find entertaining to boot up San Andreas and have some fun around the map. Whether it is unleashing chaos, exploring or just wandering aimlessly until I find something that catches my eye. GTA IV feels a little "empty" on certain areas but free roam is still entertaining. GTA V however...I just get bored of it. It's not like there is much to do despite the secondary missions. Heck, even collectibles feel like they give mediocre rewards. The "alien" buggy looks odd and cool but I don't see it as a proper reward, the notes give you I think it was 10 bucks and the nuclear waste is the most "rewarding" in terms of money (but I don't remember if the quest alone is enough to recover the money spent on the dock).
Back in San Andreas we unlocked cars for doing certain secondary quests, free amo/weapons for certain collectibles, heck. 100%ing the game gave you a frickin' tank and a hydra (things you can access more easily in GTA V so eh).
I didn't even bother 100% GTA V, so I don't know if it's even worth it. Don't get me wrong, the story is good, the game isn't bad at all. It just doesn't feel like it is worth completing EVERYTHING from it haha
@@carlosdasilva2409 I tried completing GTA V 100% but I didn't manage to get all collectibles since I got bored
@@MarkoVuckovic32 Then there is getting all missions completed as intended by the devs. Which I also gave up on since it became more stressful
Im so happy most youtubers still use the original games and not the new downgraded edition 🙏🙏🙏 super good video!
Original versions are just the best!
I kinda wish roads like the upstate tunnel of liberty city existed in the other GTA games, It sort of has the mystery and curious feeling of wanting to know what's behind them
In the beta version of GTA 4, they were going to include a part of the Upstate, which wouldve included a tunnel to drive through to get there. It was cut though, because the developers thought it was weird having a wooded area and then off 1 mile away, was the hustle and bustle of Liberty City.
@@MisterMichaelVReyes interesting
@@afraidoffear you can even find the area if you search it on youtubr
@@MisterMichaelVReyes it doesnt have to he 1 mile away though... Could be maryland... Maryland is past new York
@demonjmh no Maryland is south of New York make it like Vermont
I love the tie ins for different events etc making more depth to the gta verse
Keep the content coming....I see you being better than TheProfessional 💯
Professional whines too much
@@yougotaknife he kinda does at times low-key truthfully lol
Thank you so much for those uplifting words, bro! We're happy to be considered good quality UA-camrs 😎
GTA 3: Warning | Closed to Traffic / No Wanted Level stars
GTA VC/VCS: Danger | Hurricane Warning | No Access Across Bridge / Same with GTA III
GTA SA: Danger | Warning | No Access Across bridge / 4 Star wanted level +
GTA IV: Road block with Cop car | 6 Star Wanted Level +
This channel is underated. You deserve more views and Subs.
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I thought the radio in Vice City said that Hurricane Hermione missed Vice City. If so, maybe it was another strong hurricane between Gordy (1984) and Hermione (1986) that decimated the huts.
You know you've made good game when in 2022 ...
Roman explained in the beginning why the bridges were closed but I found it weird you only need a Visa to get passed them.
That San Andreas music is still awesome till this day
So that’s why the 6th Street Bridge here in LA is always getting closed down
I saw polish subtitles in the game in your video and it got me wondering whether your from Poland, cuz i am and thatd be cool haha
Yeah, we are from Poland😄
@@gaminginvestigators that's awesome in some way, it's nice to see my people talking about this gem of a game series haha pozdrowienia!
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Goddamnit, gta lore is so good
You're sick AF for using the classics footage
Let's not forget about the LC Elevator Bridge in GTA 3 and LCS, For LCS, The strikers were still continuing thier blockage in parts of the city, because of this, the Elevator Bridge connecting Staunton Island and shoreside Vale had been closed, and for GTA 3, the elevator bridge's mechanism had broke. And it took a while to get it repaired.
In GTA: LCS, Shoreside Vale became accessible after completing the mission “Love on the Rocks,” where Salvatore Leone was arrested and imprisoned in Pike Creek for his involvement with Donald Love and his crime connections with the Leones, resulting his disqualification of his mayoral election to Miles O’Donovan.
O’Donovan immediately became as the new mayor of Liberty City and officially announced the end of the workers’ strike and continued the construction of the Portland exit of the Porter Road Tunnel.
In GTA IV, Bohan is the only island that is accessible from the beginning of the game.
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I loved that idea of limiting the player in the beginning, when I was a kid I was always looking for ways to escape the city, sometimes using a boat in the vice city or cheats, or a bug where u could jump fast with a motorcycle near the bridge it will spawn u on the bridge after the barricade, it was cool, also in san adreas taking the train and drive it fast to skip the barricades and using cheats, it was a really cool idea and it was fun for me when I was a kid I was just using passwords, create chaos and so on, I did not care about the missions or the plot.
Because the developers want you to actually play the story and earn your access to the other parts of the map.
It’s crazy when the bridge blocked when I continued the missions to unlock the bridge 😅😅😅
I always liked when you went past barriers on bridges in GTa4 how you instantly got a 5 star wanted level...
helicopter or otherwise, yes! Plus running the toll both got stars.. but not in 5
In GTA Vice City, game says there are a storm problem but when Diaz calls us, the gate goes to Starfish is being open. Weird.
I like the detail in rockstar whole series they really put out alot of effort and fast adult swim shit.
A very interesting and very insightful video there indeed, overall very well presented too and great to look into some of the stories/theories behind things like this!😁👍👏
Thanks man! 😀
2:36 Claude be here frowning in his prison drip!
You kinda forgot the lift bridge between Staunton and Shorside that are broken due to malfunction. It’s working when Callahan is broken.
I think this is a very cool feature because it makes you curious how the other places look in GTA SA case, as a child I was curious af and when I'd open a new part of map id be excited so much, so it really gave some good memories
When my dad and I played gta3 and saw Callahan bridge we got so excited to see our last names in a game
2:05 "we believe that the presence of Roblox" i really need to do a check up on my ears
So for san andreas i thought it was tenpenny stopping us from leaving town based on that call from officer hernandez
But if I were to recreate the gta 3 liberty city map into a larger and more HD version of that map. A larger Staunton island, shoreside vale, and Portland. Maybe the bridge that the ferry workers are protesting against in 98 was because it connects Portland across the bay and into the mainland. Upstate liberty. Lessing the need to use ferries in Portland, Staunton island and upstate connecting each other via ferry boat. Plus it gives better commercialism for Portland.
I knew somewhat about gta 4 because in the beginning, Roman mentions the bridges being out due to terrorists
Bro, as a someone whose second language was English which then quickly became my primary language, listening to the narration is so jarring and funny ;D It sounds like someone just copy and pasted their script into google translate and then recorded the lines. Im not knocking it, you have to do what you have to do and obviously use the tools available but man, it sure is funny listening to the narration and picking up on little nuances
it was just to get you to do the missions to unlock different areas, mjust like GTA 2 you had to get so many points to get to the next district.
Once you reach the mission drive by you can freely explore
Callahan bridge must be one of the unluckiest bridges to exist.
-Is delayed a lot
-after complete construction 1 year later gets blown up by the cartels
Roman Bellic: "Fucking terrorists, there's been a big scare and you can't go across the bridges so good."
Yes, however in the old gta games they do not put INVISIBLE SNIPERS to stop you from exploring a certain area of the map. *cough cough RDR2 cough*
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Awesome to hear that, thank You!
All.....you brought me back to my early PS2 days.....I don't about San Andreas bridges. But I do know why Vice.City.& GTA 3.bridge closures....Fars as Vice City, the brides was closed is of you listen to Vice City news....it.clearly said "Closures to.the bridges is do.a tropical storm is coming & warns to stay off the bridges. Which means you have to complete the main island area mission so you can then do missions on the other islands....Now the reason for GTA 3 bridges to Staunton Island due to reconstruction of the bridge....which only means you have complete missions from the mainland to then Staunton Island to explore.......💯♠️♦️♥️❤♣️🖤
It's a nice piece of lore to use for a dyom storyline
I found a way around the closed bridges in GTA Vice City, after seeing an online video. Sure enough it worked and I got all of the hidden packages early, even bought that big condo with the helicopter on top in Downtown. That Vice City News Chopper on top of that building downtown is a big help in gathering out of reach packages.
GTA 4 go passed close bridges to Algonquin and Alderney is a 6 star wanted level.
The three era had the best lore tbh. I miss it and then the damn recent stuff with them makes me miss damn the old rockstar in general.
Another reason for the delay of the Porter Tunnel 1998
The Old Subway
I like how there are story’s for stuff as little as a bridge being closed
Just GTA, we can always expect a lot :)
I’d say GTA 5 is the only game where players can roam the entire map from the get-go without penalty or blockage (excluding Fort Zancudo and LSIA, of course)
and the jail
I like it. It gives you motivation to play forward. Unlocking is rewarding 😊
Yeah it was always like - I have to know what is in the next location and how it looks like😃 Moreover it's amazing that the story behind is so extensive.