Yeah, it's great. But what ever happened to Warcraft 2? That game needs to be easily available on windows 10/11 Also would be nice to see WC2 Remastered.
@@crimsonlightbinder he will suffer from PTSD and survivors guilt and become an alcoholic then homeless and the veterans department won't help him enough and he will die alone on the streets.
Oh man! I was at WCG 2010 and watched this game live! I didn't know there was a replay for it! This wasn't the finals, it was game 2 of the semi-finals. Flash played Kal in the finals, and Kal was watching these games about 5 feet in front of me! I'm so glad UA-cam decided I needed to see this game again.
Thanks for letting us know this was a re-cast on the channel. I won't add it to Flash's record on the channel. I actually remembered this game because I remembered Flash taking the high ground with that tank forever lol
I think how Jaedong won this was he expanded very far and got away mining the far out bases first. So as the game progressed, he still had minerals on bases near to his main which gave him easier time to defend compared to flash who was stretched out at the extreme
What made Flash tap out was I think lings also preventing mining at the left side, mineral-only base. So he had no mining going on anymore. Falcon, thanks for the amazing cast!
I remember when starcraft first came out. I starrted playing the day it came out. Been playing since then. Hard to believe I have been playing for 24 years
for the information, the old replay files were high chance broken/corrupted, that is why many afk troops/workers. I think we still can find this match on youtube, I forgot the channel and I remembered I watched this match during year 2010
If i recall correctly, when i watched this replay 10 years ago I watched it with a replay detector where I could see the clicks of the player. Flash objective here was to never let Jaedong get the gas at the expansion located @ 3'o clock. That was key to his victory but he couldnt control so much of the map.
Wow, such a great game between the two top players. Unfortunately I have lost my bet on Flash, my favourite Terran player at all times. But it was fun watching playing Jaedong. Thanks for sharing Falcon.
I honestly love the pacing of Broodwar compared to SC2. Lots of small victories and losses everywhere. You don't deathball super often because most maps don't allow for it, and even then you can't just A-move because of the limiting control groups and tide swinging spell caster type units.
agreed the thing that makes broodwar great compared to SC2 is that the tension and pacing is changing wildly throughout the games. This makes it more random and exciting to watch. The potential for comebacks is also greater. In SC2 the tension is at a constant high all the time, which makes it boring to watch imo. There are not many positional plays and the pattern or pacing of the games are just the same.
I agree with your points but I would also add that bad pathing also increases the amount of control you need so less death ball-y too. Really good pathing lets you box move a whole army whereas pathing where units are constantly bumping and blocking each other keeps you from moving your army as a giant unit.
Oh man what if they selective brought back some of the SC2 stuff back to brood war it would be best, limited unit groups is a great idea. I wish Hydras did +1 vs marines and +2 vs mutalisks, and Dragoons did less dmg vs wraiths but more dmg vs mutalisks it would be best.
jaedong is a starcraft god , the dark swarm and the plague was fantastic, is very dificult for a zerg player wins in the late game to a terran , and he beats flash , what a match
I'm also under the impression that zerg has a (albeit small) disadvantage in the late game, because defilers and your squishy forces in general need more micro than you need for the siege tanks. (Saying that as a terran player)
Absolutely! In their prime, Flash may have higher apm but jaedong has overall best skills imo. Zerg always requires macro control because they are always out of number!!
Missed a lurker hold @11:46. You actually look at the three lurkers Jaedong does it with, but then pan to the push into his natural when they actually burrow and stop the reinforcements.
@@phamduc1987 The play itself has been called "stop lurkers" or "hold lurkers" interchangeably for a while now by announcers or casters. The in-game order issued is "Hold Position" though. Lurkers actually do not do anything except for stop attacking for a just moment if you tell them to hold position while burrowed, as they cant move anyways =P. You need to have another unit in the control group you are issuing the order to, that actually can hold position, which forces the lurkers to stop their attacks.
@@tdsteakhouse I have not played broodwar for years (at least 7-8 years), as I remember you have to use the "stop" control, not "hold position" control to intentionally prevent the lurker from attacking automatically. is that because of an update, or my bad memory ?
I had to chuckle out loud when you were talking about how much an economy matters to winning and then you immediately started selling merchandise. Lol I love it.
Yes. I propose that this is the all-time classic game of the channel:) Old but Gold. I am also looking forward to new Jaedong games! He is back and playing 🤫
Omg amazing. I wanted another cast of this. Such an amazing game... Possibly the best. My other favorite is Bisu v. Jaedong on Circuit breakers. Thanks for the cast!!
I remember watching those replays 10 years ago. For some reason I can remember what the plays were and the match ended up but I cannot remember my sister's birthday...
18:44 Now that's interesting, science vessels standing nearby holding position scourges :D And that tank on the high ground with his 36 kills, gotta rename him Obi-Wan !
VFX & SFX, hell, the whole feel of SC1 is so much better than sc2. Imagine that best was running on fine on 256 colors. You didn't even need 16bits! Masterpiece!
I recall having watched this game back in 2013, still in korean since it was originally streamed there... I did not understood a word of what the caster was saying, but man, this game is 150 IQ at the best, and 60 IQ at the lowest... still cannot process how Jaedong ignored the west undefended base for so long
Hi Mr Falcon Paladin! Thanks for all the great casts and for bringing new viewers to Brood War (I am one of those that you converted a while back 😃). Could you please do a cast on one of Tasteless' games? I actually really enjoy watching his style of Protoss. Thanks, and hope things are going really well with you & your family! ❤️
Jaedong almost lost mid game… glad he nailed it and flash gave up his chance here. This match told me something about good ground to hold may bring you great advantage, instead of falling into dead position.
I thought that old replays were hard to find because they weren't shared at the time. For this pro in the past had mostly video broadcast but not really replays to analyse.
That scene of drones and scvs in 33:25 is like the famous internet gif of a raccoon stealing cat food right in front of the cats, CAN I HAVE SOME PLZ THX *runs away*
such a beautiful game. Great to see it in remastered
Yeah, it's great. But what ever happened to Warcraft 2? That game needs to be easily available on windows 10/11
Also would be nice to see WC2 Remastered.
@@compliantpleb4712 wc2 is not a good game. Orcs are way stronger than humans.
@@compliantpleb4712 Blizz already stated that they will not remaster WarCraft 2 you Noob.
that tank guy with 46+ kills survived and arrived back to his family !
Yeah he won't stop talking bout that one time Flash was His commander
@@sethiddings7293 yeah, he returned a war hero from a lost war, be he will be bitter and ramble drunk how flash betrayed him
@@crimsonlightbinder he will suffer from PTSD and survivors guilt and become an alcoholic then homeless and the veterans department won't help him enough and he will die alone on the streets.
legend
Every soldier boy under command of great korean general - Flash becomes a warhero!
Props to Blizzard for creating a game people are still playing 24 YEARS LATER!!!
A classic franchise! 👍👍👍
It's too bad they got bought by Activision.
And guess what, I just got into it
@@cedb3360 And I hope you really like it. I was playing this game in Korea back in the early 2000s when it really took off.
25 years confirmed?@@cedb3360
Finally not a clickbait title.
- Great game
- Great commentary
- Great ending
Oh man! I was at WCG 2010 and watched this game live! I didn't know there was a replay for it! This wasn't the finals, it was game 2 of the semi-finals. Flash played Kal in the finals, and Kal was watching these games about 5 feet in front of me! I'm so glad UA-cam decided I needed to see this game again.
I love the internet. You are basically a primary source for progaming history.
Thanks for letting us know this was a re-cast on the channel. I won't add it to Flash's record on the channel. I actually remembered this game because I remembered Flash taking the high ground with that tank forever lol
18:45 Those hold position scourge at the bottom of the screen made me burn from the inside.
just came to comment on that haha
they have excellent self control
Didn't want to die today
Even though I usually root for Protoss, I have loved watching this game again and again! Brood War is such an amazing game.
I think how Jaedong won this was he expanded very far and got away mining the far out bases first. So as the game progressed, he still had minerals on bases near to his main which gave him easier time to defend compared to flash who was stretched out at the extreme
thanks for spoiler me
@@laliluHanfImSchuh May you learn not to wander into the comments if you care about spoilers. They always gonna be here somewhere.
@@sethiddings7293 i think on phone, it shows comments autoly.
@@delta0307 its insane how it seemed the whole time that flash was winning and constantly attacking, it feels like the vietnam war lmao,
What made Flash tap out was I think lings also preventing mining at the left side, mineral-only base. So he had no mining going on anymore.
Falcon, thanks for the amazing cast!
I remember when starcraft first came out. I starrted playing the day it came out. Been playing since then. Hard to believe I have been playing for 24 years
It is going to be sort of tradition to cast the best-of-the best ones playing against each other casted by FP, pleasure in its pure form!
for the information, the old replay files were high chance broken/corrupted, that is why many afk troops/workers.
I think we still can find this match on youtube, I forgot the channel and I remembered I watched this match during year 2010
They are not corrupted, they just require the same SC version they was recorded in.
I watched this game live, and I'm glad to see that it aged well
If i recall correctly, when i watched this replay 10 years ago I watched it with a replay detector where I could see the clicks of the player. Flash objective here was to never let Jaedong get the gas at the expansion located @ 3'o clock. That was key to his victory but he couldnt control so much of the map.
The true beating heart of the Brood war: TvZ
Thank you. I spent soo much time playing the original vs computer. This content is a pleasure for me.
Wow, such a great game between the two top players. Unfortunately I have lost my bet on Flash, my favourite Terran player at all times. But it was fun watching playing Jaedong. Thanks for sharing Falcon.
This is third time you cast this game and is always a pleasure to watch it. And of course, we need to see Flash losing sometimes, don't we? 😁
I honestly love the pacing of Broodwar compared to SC2. Lots of small victories and losses everywhere. You don't deathball super often because most maps don't allow for it, and even then you can't just A-move because of the limiting control groups and tide swinging spell caster type units.
agreed the thing that makes broodwar great compared to SC2 is that the tension and pacing is changing wildly throughout the games. This makes it more random and exciting to watch. The potential for comebacks is also greater.
In SC2 the tension is at a constant high all the time, which makes it boring to watch imo. There are not many positional plays and the pattern or pacing of the games are just the same.
I agree with your points but I would also add that bad pathing also increases the amount of control you need so less death ball-y too. Really good pathing lets you box move a whole army whereas pathing where units are constantly bumping and blocking each other keeps you from moving your army as a giant unit.
Interesting analysis! Also, more on a level of taste, I don't like how squishy zealots and ultralisks are in SC2.
Oh man what if they selective brought back some of the SC2 stuff back to brood war it would be best, limited unit groups is a great idea. I wish Hydras did +1 vs marines and +2 vs mutalisks, and Dragoons did less dmg vs wraiths but more dmg vs mutalisks it would be best.
jaedong is a starcraft god , the dark swarm and the plague was fantastic, is very dificult for a zerg player wins in the late game to a terran , and he beats flash , what a match
You have to survive to the end game to master it.
I'm also under the impression that zerg has a (albeit small) disadvantage in the late game, because defilers and your squishy forces in general need more micro than you need for the siege tanks. (Saying that as a terran player)
Absolutely! In their prime, Flash may have higher apm but jaedong has overall best skills imo. Zerg always requires macro control because they are always out of number!!
Missed a lurker hold @11:46. You actually look at the three lurkers Jaedong does it with, but then pan to the push into his natural when they actually burrow and stop the reinforcements.
is that a hold or a stop ?
@@phamduc1987 The play itself has been called "stop lurkers" or "hold lurkers" interchangeably for a while now by announcers or casters.
The in-game order issued is "Hold Position" though. Lurkers actually do not do anything except for stop attacking for a just moment if you tell them to hold position while burrowed, as they cant move anyways =P. You need to have another unit in the control group you are issuing the order to, that actually can hold position, which forces the lurkers to stop their attacks.
@@tdsteakhouse I have not played broodwar for years (at least 7-8 years), as I remember you have to use the "stop" control, not "hold position" control to intentionally prevent the lurker from attacking automatically. is that because of an update, or my bad memory ?
My favorite game of all time. The back and forth, tactics, counters and it's exciting right up to the GG.
I had to chuckle out loud when you were talking about how much an economy matters to winning and then you immediately started selling merchandise. Lol I love it.
Thank you for this lovely Starcraft Broodwar cast, FP
Of course, Ebee :)
Yes. I propose that this is the all-time classic game of the channel:) Old but Gold. I am also looking forward to new Jaedong games! He is back and playing 🤫
"Reeeeee-mastered!!!!"
Best part. Gets u pumped!
Omg amazing. I wanted another cast of this. Such an amazing game... Possibly the best. My other favorite is Bisu v. Jaedong on Circuit breakers. Thanks for the cast!!
One of the best (if not the best) ZvT I have ever seen. Jaedong his the best player that Zerg ever had. With the best Falcon Paladin.
omg playing sc2 for a long time now and just see sc1 still there, the graphic is so 1990, what a nostalgia :D
Я был уверен, что Флеш заберет победу, но Джейдонг в очередной раз показал кто батя
Chances are I’ve seen this before and will watch it many times over. I always try to look for a video that doesn’t have a like from me yet.
I cant sleep but luckiliy Falcon's SC cast makes me relaxed.
I remember watching those replays 10 years ago. For some reason I can remember what the plays were and the match ended up but I cannot remember my sister's birthday...
The best players of Starcraft going against each other - life is good
18:44 Now that's interesting, science vessels standing nearby holding position scourges :D
And that tank on the high ground with his 36 kills, gotta rename him Obi-Wan !
What a classic! I couldn't believe who won. Wow.
watched again today 15 - 11 - 2023, never gets old :)
Life is pretty bad atm but luckily there's FP with a fresh match between Flash and JD
Five times a week, but now youre doing 6 times a week of awesome games!
LOVE the old replays! love the vids
10/10 game - this was such a Carlsen vs Hikaru game.
Nothing like watching two of the best go at it like this.
You've been dark swarmed by, you've been plagued by a smooth defiler
If only Michael Jackson played Broodwar.
2023 and we still loving StarCraft!!!
11:30 looking at the minimap, you can see half of the terran army get obliterated by those lurkers in the center of the map
If Jaedong and Flash played Wheel of Fortune, they would both win!
9:29 as a Spanish speaker this drew my attention haha, random 'tres'
26:44 "imagine being a drone and being told you're going to work at this base" 🤣
The most EPIC BATTLE between Zerg and Terran of ALL TIME.
Its Falcon Paladin coming at you!!!!
The thumbnail looks like it's coming directly from a StarCraft trailer :D
Holy cow do I love your channel 😍
Glad you enjoy it!
As a guy who never got out of PvE in SC, it blows my mind how quickly ultralisks go down in these games.
jaedong just doesnt go away. impressive win.
What an insane game…. Back and forth … back and forth
VFX & SFX, hell, the whole feel of SC1 is so much better than sc2. Imagine that best was running on fine on 256 colors. You didn't even need 16bits! Masterpiece!
Jaedong not finding that base is just torture
I recall having watched this game back in 2013, still in korean since it was originally streamed there... I did not understood a word of what the caster was saying, but man, this game is 150 IQ at the best, and 60 IQ at the lowest... still cannot process how Jaedong ignored the west undefended base for so long
Yea I'll buy a Falco paladin shirt
Hi Mr Falcon Paladin! Thanks for all the great casts and for bringing new viewers to Brood War (I am one of those that you converted a while back 😃). Could you please do a cast on one of Tasteless' games? I actually really enjoy watching his style of Protoss. Thanks, and hope things are going really well with you & your family! ❤️
Jaedong almost lost mid game… glad he nailed it and flash gave up his chance here.
This match told me something about good ground to hold may bring you great advantage, instead of falling into dead position.
I LOVE THOSE SPANISH WORDS FALCON
holy crap. i didn't think zerg would win. great job, jaedong!
First day of quarantine and Falcon post Flash vs Jaedong video? This is nice!
Very nice video, man! Keep it up! :D
Thanks, will do!
@@FalconPaladin No problem, you're welcome there. 🙂
Still ove this game thanks man keep kickin ass
No problem, dude! Will do!
this video has drawn my attention to the severe lack of snow maps in sc2
If Jaedong can survive a 34 min constant onslaught on his face... from Jaedong... you can survive anything. hahaha
This feels like prime Jaedong. I feel so sad when I see Bisu and JD getting destroyed by basically anyone nowadays. :( Also, 18:44 is very funny :=)
At first I didnt recognize it then I saw the tank on the highground. Lol best game ever
That was a fantastic match!
third time ive seen this replay, forgot the ending every time until about halfway through the replay
11:24 ...to put those marines just barely out of range like that without losing one...
I wanna see a game where the zerg infests the command centers
It happens from time to time but what is really rare to see would be an infested terran to explode!
This was no Finals, but Semi Finals.
Love the commentary, though I wish the camera followed the action a little more often
Epic battle
thanks, Falcon
No problem!
Flash vs Jaedong you say?
I click.
13:08 "all live long dlay" cat reference lmfao
I thought that old replays were hard to find because they weren't shared at the time. For this pro in the past had mostly video broadcast but not really replays to analyse.
Damn lots of flash losses been casted...weird. He's the goat.
Even the goat can't win 'em all!
This is awesome!
That scene of drones and scvs in 33:25 is like the famous internet gif of a raccoon stealing cat food right in front of the cats, CAN I HAVE SOME PLZ THX *runs away*
:D
Defiler makes terran suffer so much omfg , and also terran really required an insane amount of controlling skill
11:39 It was even better to not show it. Just look at the minimap and see that line of marine reenforcements die off at that wall of 3 lurkers.
What a classic ❤
dones and scv working together. peaceful
It's not their battle. :D
The best game ever .
Jaedong is my hero!
34:51 to 34:59 🤯
Excelente partida!!!
I cant believe what i just saw.
When jaedong fights against an onslaught from jaedong. 34:55
I see these names, I click 👀
StarCraft broodwar has been refined for years. That is why SC II can't beat it, even with better graphics.
I hope someday, SC II gets refined like BW.
Hmmm vultures could have help a lot.more than marines on the late game
Hey Falcon. Is there a download link for this replay file? Whould be cool...
what an amazing game!!!