The WORST Bleach Movie | Diamond Dust Rebellion
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Continuing with the movie reviews, next up is BLEACH Movie 2: The Diamond Dust Rebellion. Initially having high hopes for a movie centred around Toshiro Hitsugaya, what went wrong?
This is the second entry in a series of movie overviews where I will be covering all of the Bleach movies. Stay tuned for my Fade to Black and Hell Verse videos in the coming weeks.
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Central: He must die
Hitsugaya: WHY?
Central: We don't really know man
😂😂
Well if something is to be clowned over and over again in bleach, it’s Central 46.
Because they both have same zanpaktou
@@gamer-1660 damn what a crime, they definetlyy cannot mold the zanpakuto in their own style, i swear central 47 is full of angry old people who are jealous of soul reapers
Yea that shit made no sense🤣🤣
Kenpachi charging that ice dragon like a mad man made the movie for me. Unforgettable!
LET'S MURDER CHRISTMAS!
The kenpachi covers in bleach Abridged are godly
That was the best scene
I had that part as my voice mail msg for a long time. It's was hilarious! All you'd hear was Kenpachi laughing and then Leave a msg
@@BirdOfHermes83 Lmao that's hilarious bro.
I agree, that made the film for me too. And also the Yoruichi and Soi Fon team up were the two things that definitely did it for me.
Kusaka "What do you think your comrades would say if they found you slain by Hyonimaru?"
Kyoraku "They'd say 'how the hell did Hitsugaya manage to take down Kyoraku?', and call shenanigans!"
@@GlacikingTheIceColdKing Ummm, no thats a Bleach (S) Abridged reference.
@@jonhawk117 that was weird, I commented on another video, how the hell did it end up here.
@@GlacikingTheIceColdKing Shenanigans
@@Flapalapagus it was the fault of society
You can't just go around claiming shenanigans all the time with no basis. We take that very seriously around these parts, ya'hear.
Yamamoto not trusting Toshiro isn't really that crazy to swallow when you consider the fact that these events "technically" take place after Aizen, Gin and Kaname's treason. I would say, it would put anyone on edge.
This movie was good imagine was in the anime canon episodes and it taking place during the arrancar arc
After they murdered his friend for no reason… lol… I don’t blame Toshiro
Ah, yes. The Bleach Christmas special
Ren Amamiya "merry christmass hisagi"
AKA “A Very Kenpachi Christmas”
DaFro3713 AKA How Kusaka Stole Christmas
See, this comment strain shows why it is the Abridged series have valid reasons for existing.
Director 00Donut Ya damn right
Ichigo gets the win in a story that he's not the main character in. 🤦🏾♂️ Come on. That's some Goku shit.
Movie 13 Wrath of the Dragon flashbacks??? Yeah...Poor Tapion... *stillangryaboutthat*
@@WeeScottishLass And Dragonball Xenoverse
Cough Vegeta should've killed frieza in the movie cough
Toshi fights and kills kusaka one on one ichigo takes out the ice dragon kusaka
That was the whole point of the movie though, If Toshiro let Ichigo and them help him it would've been much simpler and easier.
Whether the movie was good or not, Bleach is back ;)
I wonder if you can post a comment like this on every new upload of mine until Bleach episode 1 airs lol
@@DBZimran I gladly accept the challenge!
@@silentobserver9095 LOL go for it! No complaints here!
Also shows how corrupt central 46 is
That I can’t wait 👍
Kyoraku being off screened by that pleb was the worst part of this
First of all I love this movie because: Toshiro.
However I agree with almost every single one of your points. Rangiku matsumoto fought against her childhood friend (andmaybeloveinterest?) to protect her Captain and he never showed her the same loyalty? There were so many out of character moments for Toshiro, including attacking Ichigo... and so much unexplained. I don't see this movie as canon at all but it will always hold a special place in my heart because we got to see so much Toshiro in it hahaha I wish they'd done it right though...
He wanted to experience this pain alone.without involving those he cared for ,like rangiku.he whole heartedly told rangiku thank you for everything in that grave yard scene.him fighting ichigo was him trying to push ichigo away.besides ichigo has always been so hard headed and he doesn't listen to toshiro anyways so that was totally not out of character.why didn't anyone find it strange when byakuya literally did exactly what shiro did so that he could protect his pride and defeat koga 1 v1,once and for all.so yes ,toshiro did show rangiku the loyalty.its just there are some personal wounds that come back to hurt you,but you don't want to get the ones you love involved.you see how he responded to her after she brought back his garb and still accepted him.I can say without a doubt that apart from hinamori ,toshiro does not care about anyone else as much as he does rangiku.he even trusts her more.
I don't think any of the movies are canon.
When Toshiro attacks/pushes Ichigo away, the first time and only the first time It's shown, the scene slows on Toshiro and he says "Please". I figured it was a way to tell Ichigo to let him go so Ichigo would leave him alone or so those two girls wouldn't attack Ichigo.
Well movies aren't usually cannon anyway unless told otherwise.
Honestly Yamamoto reaction is typical. He was willing to beat ukitake and shisui just for stopping rukias death
Yeah he acts like that throughout the entire series everytime someone opposes him
@@z.incognito6259 dude got what he deserved
@@Chillgamesh his arrogance became his undoing 🤷🏾
Hitsugaya was constantly incredibly popular in Japan, it's what I always assumed the movie was made for. Fanservice basically which would explain the mess that was having the same zanpakuto, as it's in the manga that there would never be such a thing happening. I always found memories of nobody so bittersweet and nostalgic and Fade to Black as fanservice as well. It had very calculated cry moments and Rukia was also always very popular.
Only one scenarios I can see that happening (with manga canon as ruleset) is a mirror based Zanpakto that can copy the powers of their opponents. Even then it would be better or inferior based on the user and target.
Lol i think diamond dust rebellion is the best bleach movie
2nd is memories of nobody
Fade to black and hell verse are trash
What buggs me the most about this movie is how the portroyal of the sword makes no sense and contradicts the series.
In the rest of Bleach it was made abundantly clear that each Shinigami is given an Asauchi (I think that's the right word) - basically a blank Zanpakuto - that will then bond and evolve alongside it's owner. And the power that those swords have are really the person's power, imbued into the sword.
In this movie however, Hizugaya somehow found his Zanpakuto... as well as a second person.
It outright contradicts the series by having an independant Zanpakuto exist in the first place and then it contradicts itself by having two instances of the same supposedly unique sword exist at the same time.
Also that this single sword would be so important that not only did the very government of the Soul Society hold an entire meeting only about it, but also established standing rules on how to handle it is just laughable. Sure it's powerful, but if any of the top Captains got their act together they could just rofl-stomp all over Hyorinmaru, especially the Head Captain Yamamoto....
Nanao ise has a family sword with no blade that's passed down. There are a few exceptions to the rule.
@@Round_Slinger Yes she has but if I remember correctly this sword is not considered a Zanpakuto, but something else. And it's not really 'her' sword and bonded to her, but an independant sword in the care and responsibility of her family.
I think all the movies are supposed to be non-canon therefore the logic of the series will not be applied to them. However, if I HAVE TO explain this, it may simply means that Hyourinmaru was too powerful and therefore its Spritiual Energy affects people around it aswell forming a duplicate zanpakuto and therefore the Central 46 later decided that Hitsugaya is the "rightful" owner of the sword and perform the execution of Kusaka
@@catbuikhang6482 Considering how Hellverse got two tie-in episodes in the series (if i remember correctly), I think at least that one is considered canon, for the anime at any rate.
Norbert Sattler all royale family’s have a zanpactou with extreme power that is inherited, so it’s definitely possible that hyorinmaru could be a similar sword as those, as huorinmaru at its peak can freeze absolutely anything so that power does seem like an ability that could be posed by a co existent seorr
The story setup is just like the zanpaktou arc. Byakuya plays the part of the traitor to stop a person from his past he has history with.
Pretty sure they made this story because Toshiro is such a popular character in bleach. I still like the movie though
Games sadly they didn’t make one about byakuya. I’d love to see that too though he’s my favorite character. But at least they gave us some filler episodes based on byakuya sort of. Byakuya vs kouga is fire 🔥
I haven't even watched the movie yet
Girl this is literally the best movie in bleach!
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I actually like this movie more than hell verse. Hell verse definitely has the best art and animation, but the story felt “blah” or “ive seen something like this too many times.” I rewatched diamond dust rebellion the most tbh
I agree I also felt that certain plot points either made no sense and they're barely fleshed out or not at all.
I agree. Hell verse to me was the worst of the movies, I really couldn't get into it and the ending was honestly pretty lame and made a lot of the support characters feel well useless....and Yamamoto.... god he is the worst in all 4 movies.
@@kyle013100 Yamamoto is just the worst, period. I dunno why they forced the boys to fight when Hitsugaya was going to let him have the zanpakuto. But then, he didn't question at all why Central 46 ordered an execution of the Soul Society equivalent of Rey from Nowhere either. I wasn't sad when he took the dirt nap in TYBW. From what I can gather of CFYOW, Shunsui has a much more metered approach to things.
shaglizzy yeah I felt Hellverse was very rushed
Hellverse was definitely the worst to me.the first one was the best.hellverse had a very predictable villian.it was so predictable that when he turned on ichigo I didn't even budge.the side characters left no impact.the captains were featured very little.the guy was stronger than ichigo but suddenly ichigo got some powerup out of nowhere,because 'hell itself had judged the villain'.like,is that what we're calling plot armor now?what even was the point of the movie.it can be summarized like this. Bad guy sends henchmen,helps defeats them,joins hero and friends to pretend he's a friend ,then turns on him.then gets whooped by some new powerup.that movie was the fullbring arc and shunsuke amagai arc all over again
The best part of the movie was the Abridged Version of this movie
it 100 time better than the original
is that abridged version from project mouthwash?
they always make good references on the bleach manga on their abridged series.
@@kaivin88 yep, that one! :)
that's why this is my least favorite Bleach movie, it had so many plot holes and made no effort to follow the Bleach lore, however knowing how non-canon animated movies tend to be usually this is at least not a complete waste of time, i would have loved it if they inclouded Momo and Rangiku more considering this movie plot circles around Hitsugaya and them being around him for most of his past life.
I feel like the movies, as the filler, of Bleach is far from perfect, but likable all the same. I watched the Bount arc when I was a teenager and loved it, despite it's issues. I loved seeing my favourite characters in any interaction or fight that happened. The same with the rest of Bleach. I enjoy it in spite of its flaws. I know it's not perfect objectively, but it is for me, which is all that matters at the end of the day.
The bount arc was trash.
@@ophhate it's his opinion chill out
@@Muke254 mine too.
I'd much prefer to skip any Bleach filler Arc
@@ophhate yes it is ur opinion but u targeted the comment just because u don’t like the arc just because someone else does. If u don’t like it that’s fine but don’t shit on others who do. If u don’t have nothing nice to say don’t say it at all.
Tbh I really liked every Bleach movie . Even if they didn't made sense . They still had an intense emotional plots and expression and that's what I liked . Emotions , but hey that's just me. There are no bad movies just different perspective .
No bad movies? dragon ball evolution would like to talk lol
@@KLfrmthechi773 I can't read your comment.lol what did you wrote? I guess I'll never know.
@@spydermonkey9381 No bad movies? dragon ball evolution would like to talk lol
I completely disagree with you.
@@DB1Dragoon its a good thing you do. Everyone has different opinions, and, while I also don't think every movie isn't bad, you can say that each movie has its own charm and traits.
This movie could have been great if the focus remained on a smaller more personal story about Hitsugaya and the people close to him. Namely Rangiku should've had a bigger role instead of just sitting around under house arrest. When this movie was coming out Kubo made a canonical origin chapter for Hitsugaya that reveals it was Rangiku who convinced him to become a shinigami so the set up for a movie emphasizing their relationship is already there. Plus the look Hitsugaya gives her at the start before he bails on the squad mirrors the one Gin gave Rangiku when he left with Aizen so even more wasted potential on showing how much she's had to deal with the people close to her abandoning her like that(+1 more if you count Isshin).
What made me angry with this movie is that it says that Hitsugaya obtained his power during his scholarship at Shinigami school, although in the manga and anime, it is said that Hyorinmaru appeared to him when he was a kid living in the Rukongai with his grandma... It makes no sense, and makes me feel like Hirsugaya is a kind of impostor, illegitimate to the role of captain. It is sad. That is why this story will never be part of the canon for me.
It's not cannon at all don't worry
I loveee this movie but I respect your reasoning.
Well I do love Toshiro Hitsugaya he is my favorite character I do see the flaws in the movie, Toshiro isn't being like the same person he is in the series/manga but I can see him having a bunch of emotions and not being able to deal with them properly, he is at the end of the day a very young captain/shinigami who will sometimes make stupid decisions because /he/ feels they are right.
I did want him to accept the help from others it was sad to see him go about this struggle alone but I can still see why he did. I don't think the head captain choices were extreme considering the stuff with Rukia who also was considered a traitor because she gave her powers to someone to battle when she clearly could not. The soul society was always over the top with the rules and if you break one you may have execution on your head .
All four movies never have any of the character brought up or mentioned again which I would have liked. Hell verse was the worst bleach movie for me because I was really confused about what was happening.
TheYoungGeninSasuke I can help explain what happened in the hellverse if need it it probably wouldn’t change your opinion tho
With all the shit Central 46 does in flashbacks, it makes you not feel bad that they were killed by Aizen
On that I have to agree. Cause they were about to send my boy Urahara to prison and probably get executed for something he didn’t do, even though Aizen was the one who set him up. I never liked the Central 46 anyways, besides from being wrong, they’re absolute morons
While causally strolling though the anime section at best buy this film catches my eye and not knowing what bleach was bought this loved it then got first couple seasons and now one of my favorite anime and shows ever!
The only theory that made me accept this movie is the idea that Kusaka's zanpakuto was illusion based and because Kusaka was so impressed/obsessed/whatever with Toshiro, his zanpakuto "transformed" in Hyourinmaru without his own knowledge.
Since I'm a die hard Toushiro fangirl, I have to watch this movie and that's the only thing convincing me to do so.
Im glad you brought up the scene with shunsui getting taken out off screen. That really bothered me too.
What I love most about your review is that you’re fair and honest. As much as I genuinely enjoy this movie, you've neatly organized every problem I had with it, I think the most unforgivable thing is that Ichigo dealt the finishing blow.
A theory that I have is that the twin Hyōrinmaru is the result of Toshiro's immense and uncontrolled reiatsu overflowing and seeping into Kusaka's inner world due to the close bond they share and how much time they spend together. In the movie, Kusaka is Toshiro's only friend at the academy and is one of the few people to be able to really connect with him on a personal level.
This is also just speculation but I feel that Kusaka is actually a very passive person and is easily influenced by the people he trusts. Since Toshiro is the person he's closest to, Kusaka doesn't perceive the foreign reiatsu as a threat and he subconsciously allows his inner world to be frozen over and because of that, his true Zanpakutō never properly develops.
The Hyōrinmaru that Kusaka manifests is essentially a perfect replica and in a way, is as equally powerful and genuine as Toshiro's but due to the circumstances and the fact that its very existence is actively suppressing Kusaka's true Zanpakutō, it's actually quite a severe hindrance and is most likely the reason he can’t use Bankai. I think it also had a negative effect on his psyche because he seemed to become slightly unstable mentally and emotionally after it appeared.
These are all just personal headcanons though. I also have theories about the plot and ideas to fill in plot holes but this comment is long enough and I'd rather not turn it into a novel.
This head canon was my initial idea as well when I saw dual zanpakuto. The slight color difference made me think this way.
“This is none of your business!”
“THIS IS SUPER MY BUSINESS!!!!!!!”
I really enjoyed all the movies. Bleach movies are actually one of the best movie series from all of anime (IMO). Please do more of these bleach movies ( Fade to black, Hell Verse). I love those 2 movies the most, I would love for u to make a video about it Zirman
As a huuuuge Toshiro fan I hated this movie when I rewatched it. It had so much potential but they did it so bad.
First of all, imo Toshiro wouldn't be such a jerk about it, at the very least to Rangiku. This movie happens during the Arrancar arc right? As a captain, even while emotionally unstable, he should've and would've usually thought about his squad first. Also, we know him and Rangiku are really close for captain and lieutenant, so he'd probably feel bad for her because Gin always left her without telling her where he's going. Isshin also left the both of them without even knowing himself it would be the last time he'd see them, so I don't think Toshiro would abandon her so easily because he knows the pain it would cause. The same could also be said for Hinamori being left by Aizen, though I think at this point she was still in a coma, so wouldn't have been involved anyway.
Speaking of Rangiku, I definitely agree with other comments saying that she should have been involved as much as, if not more, than Ichigo. I get that he's the main character but this video was right about Ichigo being shoehorned in since this was at a point in time where Ichigo and Toshiro weren't even as close as they become. Rangiku would have been able to help Toshiro more and she's got to be the one person he wouldn't feel too embarrassed to rely on.
More recent light novels like Can't Fear Your Own World and Spirits Are Forever With You show that ichigo doesn't even have to be involved in the plot. This film could have made so much more sense if it was set or at least conceptualised after the manga ended (I know that would be way too late but...) since it would be more likely that we get an explanation of how kusaka also got Hyorinmaru because of the Asauchi. Imo I think that a decent explanation would have been something like Toshiro's spiritual pressure being so large that it affected and created a copy of hyorinmaru using kusaka's asauchi. This would make sense as to why kusaka saw Hyorinmaru at the exact same time Toshiro did, when Toshiro's been having visions of Hyorinmaru way before he even enrolled into the academy (I think that's canon because I saw manga panels for it, so it wasn't just in the zanpakuto filler arc). It would also explain why Central 46 decided to make them fight each other: either way, they would kill off kusaka since it's actually Toshiro who's the rightful owner of Hyorinmaru. That would also add another dimension to his guilt and more character development as he would feel that if he had better control of his reiatsu in the first place, they wouldn't even had to have fought in the first place, so kusaka wouldn't have to have died. But no, of course that much thought wasn't put in so we just get 95 minutes of toshiro being an insensitive douchebag when imo he would never do something like that. This film made toshiro look so bad that now I'm happy about ichigo punching some sense into him, even tho he's my fav 😂
And then if someone could explain how this makes sense: how the hell did kusaka come back to life in the first place? Do they explain it in the film? Haven't watched it for for while. They probably don't tbh.
I know that the Diamond Dust rebellion came out quite a bit before, but the premise really reminds me of Captain America: Winter Soldier, which was done a million billion times better than Diamond Dust was. It probably sounds dumb, but I think the character's are similar, with Toshiro like Cap and kusaka like bucky/winter soldier. Diamond dust could've worked out without Ichigo involved and Toshiro on the run if it played out not identically, but in a similar way to Winter Soldier. Maybe if Toshiro didn't know or denied that the Reiatsu he felt was kusaka, he would've come back with Rangiku and the whole story could've been way more interesting. Rangiku's role could've been like natasha with Cap in Winter Soldier. Maybe kusaka frames toshiro once they're back in soul society by, idk killing a bunch of normal shinigami, maybe low ranking seated officers as well (because i dont think he should be able to incapacitate any other captains like he did to kyoraku-next paragraph talks about that) the only person who supports toshiro is rangiku, so she goes on the run with toshiro to find out the truth instead of just staying in house arrest the whole time. We could've gotten a really cool reveal scene as well like when Cap realises winter soldier is bucky (obviously not in the same way).
Also i agree in that kusaka should not have been able to defeat kyoraku out of all people. Hyorinmaru is an incredibly strong zanpakto but how is kusaka, a guy who probably had less than a week with this zanpakuto that probably wasn't even his in the first place (going along with the overwhelming reiatsu theory), beating one of the oldest and strongest captains (definitely during the arrancar arc) in less than two minutes? Like the video says, the ouin wasn't even activated, so that excuse isn't even valid. If toshiro isn't on par with kyoraku at that point even in bankai, kusaka shouldn't have been able to one shot kyoraku in shikai, even if kyoraku was so shocked about seeing some dead guy he had only just read about (like the video says).
We also should have gotten a tinyyy flashback as to why and how kusaka teamed up with two arrancar girls in the first place. Who are they? Why are they so loyal to kusaka? It just doesn't make sense. This is probably just me, but why the heck would you transport something as important and powerful as the ouin after a guy like aizen betrayed and stole the hogyokyu, which works in a similar way to the ouin? Is there not fear of aizen somehow stealing the ouin as well, especially since it was being transported in the world of the living.
Overall, I think this movie could have been so much better if it was made a lot later and if:
A) Toshiro was less of of a jerk and involved rangiku at least (the person I'd say changed his world after telling him to be a shinigami)
B) Not shoehorning ichigo in, maybe by setting the film after aizen's defeat like with spirits are forever with you, which is why I think it would have been better if made towards the end of the anime
C) Plot holes explanations, another reason why it should have been done later: we would've gotten a solid explanation about how kusaka got hyorinmaru since kubo himself would have at least thought about asauchi and how that whole concept would work in this film.
Huge factors into why I will never see this film as canon, unlike memories of nobody because of the valley of screams shown in CFYOW
It's just so sad at the lost potential here. They butchered my guy! What annoys me the most is how he left things with rangiku, he doesn't show it much but he really cares for her. Even in thousand year blood war (spoiler alert?) Before he 'dies' his main priority is to save and help a 'dying' rangiku.
If you didn't like this film for the storyline, I don't blame you. If you didn't like it because it's about toshiro, cool because everyone has their own opinions! Either way, it could've been done a million times better.
TL;DR good concept, poorly portrayed, characters poorly depicted. Sorry for such a long, probably unnecessary read, just needed to go on a rant 😂 don't mind if no one reads this tbh
I'm just happy the anime's coming back so I can see everyone (including toshiro obviously-new bankai kusaka and this film will never lay its hands on!) being bad ass for one last time!
I agreed with everything you said about Hitsugaya's character assassination, especially when it comes to how he handled Matsumoto. The real Hitsugaya would NEVER. I actually bursted out laughing during some parts of the movie because it was so cringe and absurd. But it's still the highest grossing Bleach film, I think. Crazy.
Well, the title has the right mind set, that where the creators thinking when they made this movie? Sheesh, another blow For the Bleach fans, but the hell verse movie was Fire tho
Hell Verse was the shit.
@@M3rtyville that opening fight thoo uff that was amazing
@@M3rtyville I mean the ending was shit with that stupid power up, but de rest of the movie was pretty cool with awseome fights
Was that pun intended?
@@shadowjgaming6502 yes, but no
Every issue I had with this movie was finally acknowledged. Thank you
I have always thought that bleach deserves a rewriting as a whole to present a better story
The main problem in this movie is that it focuses on ichigo despite him not being that close to toshiro to begin with
heyy at least the ending song was nice xd
Also why can’t two people have the same zanpakuto, I mean a zanpakuto is forged by pouring one’s own reiatsu into an asauchi. Meaning the zanpakuto is more the person wielding it than just some random power. So they are both ice zanpakuto that share the same name but there must be differences right? Like in the bankai perhaps. Or are we saying this guy shares has the exact same reiatsu.....
I think this movie was just released before the explanation in the manga
Yep, this movie was released years before the TYBW arc. I bet not even Kubo had tought of that yet.
Vlog do Maminha wasn’t that pretty much all explained by Zangetsu during ichigo’s hallow power training. But Ichigo is dense, doesn’t listen to what Zangetsu is telling him. Ichigo was taking everything metaphorically but Zangetsu was being literal.
@@ArchAngelKnights This movie came out several years before the final arc
@@leonardofarias8843 however I think most of this was explained during the Rukia rescue, and Hollow power training arcs. We all just assumed that Zangetsu was a hollow formed when Ichigo got his powers back and weren't taking him seriously. Kubo had that setup from the very beginning and was dropping hints throughout the series.
I personally think that all of Bleach's movie are good. And Bleach movie soundtracks are Godly. I mean everybody knows Invasion, Treachery, and many more.
I remember I watched it... but I completely forgot about the plot until watching this video. The film is honestly pretty forgettable... except I believe DDR is where the track “Invasion” was introduced and I gotta be grateful for that (it’s ironically the thing that got me interested in Bleach)
Tbh I totally forgot this movie until I rewatched it years later (maybe because I’m not a fan of hitsugaya). Can’t wait for your Hell Verse Vid! Great job in this one!
Well before I share my opinion I would like to start by saying that "Diamond Dust" is a meteorological phenomenon where tiny shards of crystal-like ice forms and is picked up by the wind and appears like shards of diamonds floating through the sky. Hence the name.
Personally I think the worst is Hell Verse. That movie is just standard "TV show based Anime movie" and just goes through the motions without much ambition. Like watch the DBZ, Naruto or the 1st and 4th Inuyasha movies and you'll get what I mean. It's like the people making that movie had some kind of anime cliche quota to meet.
Plus the attempt of a surprise villian was kinda pathetic, I mean he's trapped in hell for a reason, how am I supposed to be shocked that someone sent to hell is not a good person.
Perhaps it's just me but I prefer a movie that tries and fails to do something interesting than a product that just goes the motions.
Î will have to disagree with the last part. Hell in Bleach has not been established to be a place for evil human beings. It was established to be the afterlife for humans who've committed crimes in their lifes. Their reasons for the actions are not incl. when it was explained. Rukia simply assumed everyone were evil when they are send to hell since they committed crimes. In this system, people who killed multiple people to save someone or act as revenge to the people who murdered someone horribly can be send to hell. From this POV, that person isnt necessarily evil since his intention wasnt evil but his actions were wrong aka in this case, the main villian could've been a person who isn't evil. People can make dumb decisions when they are angry after all. Also if we look at it from the Japanese perspective:
Kids running away from their parents is a crime bad enough to be send to Hell. Animes has based their stories on this. So based on their culture, I think it isnt far fetched to assume this attempt wasnt that pathetic since Hell in their culture isnt as black or white as the Western culture.
@@michaelshahoe Fair point. I didn't think to look at it from the Japanese perspective. I still think they could've handled that twist better but I'll admit it's not as bad as I made it out.
I dont like how hyorinmaru was not a manifested spirit by toshiro
Isn't this the movie where Ikkaku reveals his Bankai to Rangiku and Hitsugaya (and maybe some other people too) and is still like "sshh its a secret" - despite them being very much out in the open?
From what I remember of Bleach forums back in the day, the most significant reason this movie was revered over others was because it was about Hitsugaya. I remember a lot of people acknowledging the plot conveniences and parts that didn't make sense, but overall still rating the film quite highly because Hitsugaya was easy to fangirl/boy over.
Great video and Happy Ramadan Imran
How the heck did Hitsugaya take down Kyoraku? I call shenanigans.
I could have bought Hitsugaya wanting to deal with the plot alone, but Ichigo of all people would understand going against soul society laws to seek personal justice, and Hitsugaya would have known this. Then they could have chased Kusaka together, which could have been all kinds of awesome. Kusaka could have gone batshit crazy cuz of the king’s seal or by being around hollows. Why not, and that’d be why the two Arrancar’s join him, they respect his hollow like desire to get revenge on soul society (and maybe even rule it as a king). As for the twin swords, the replication of sword spirit could fuck with the balance if reality or some shit, which would (lazily) justify why one had to be eliminated, naturally Hitsugaya’s immense potential made him the favourite of central 46 and he just wanted to talk to his old bud, before disappointingly realizing just how depraved his old bud became. It also would have been super sweet if Ichigo would have been attacked along Hitsugaya, resulting in them two brawling with a bunch of soul reapers.
Overall the movie had great potential, but meh
“I don’t know where Hitsugaya goes with these Arrancar girls but he doesn’t meet Kusaka”
So hitsugaya is at that age huh… in an abandoned factory huh…
So I suppose Kyoraku loosing the fight against Kusaka and getting fataly wounded was to set up the bad guy, because everyone know that Kyoraku is really strong, right? But I feel like that was just the potentially coolest fight in this movie happening off screen, for the sole reason that Kyoraku's abilities had not been revealed in the canon anime yet when this came out
I see this movie as a love letter to Hitsugaya fans since his the most popular character.
Shunsui is my favorite character in Bleach, so I’m glad I’m not the only one who was pissed off when Kusaka beat him off-screen.
Oh-Etsu got some explaining to do making 2 Hyorinmarus, lol
The Soul Society is messed up yo. No wonder everyone thinks the shinigamis are villains…
this is the kind of hard-hitting reporting i need in my life, thank you
I agree with you, a lot of these errors seem to suggest inadequate research of the source material, the rest was poor storytelling as you pointed out. After the scene where Kyoraku gets defeated I was done.
"You'll never hit me if I move to this side of the alley!"
The problem with the Bleach movies is that they always have to have every single character, and especially Ichigo and his supernatural schoolmates. They couldn't just have a tight mystery-action movie centered around one squad captain and his relationship with his subordinates, his past, and the greater bureaucracy of Soul Society. They must have everyone
The movie starts out great for me. We get to see more of Soul Society, learn a bit of the royal family (even if this is all non-canon), and we have an intrigue centered plot in which we have different opinions, a rogue captain going around hurt while other is killing off Shinigami with a zanpakuto that can't exist, It could've been great, very samurai-esque...
And then it devolves into "get the magic thing to get revenge! Destroy the world! Join me good guy!" and finally a wankfest of all the bankai, shikai, fighting a big ass dragon...
If the movie kept the small scale that it had at first, it could've been great, but... movie anime, gotta have your fanservice I gues...
Does anyone else think that Hitsuguya and Kusaka having the same zanpakuto may have meant that they may have been soul mates? What with the swords being a reflection of the soul And them sharing it means they had the same soul.
And if that's the case, their bond was forcibly terminated by their own hands by Central 46. Making it even more tragic.
Personally, I take it to mean he (Kusaka) had a leeching Zanpakutou akin to Yumichika's, and if I were in charge of writing the movie? I'd actually reframe the meeting with Central 46 as them trying to get Kusaka to abandon his "Hyorinmaru" so he could obtain his _actual_ Zanpakutou. But instead of listening to reason, to C46 actually explaining why this is necessary and required for Kusaka's growth as a Shinigami - Kusaka just tunnel-visions on 'abandon your sword', aka the most powerful ice-based Zanpakutou in existence.
Kusaka subsequently throws a fit and tries to kill Hitsugaya insisting Hitsugaya is leeching off _his_ power. Which is where the stealth force/guards step in. Rather than restraining Hitsugaya (though they're doing that), they're protecting him from a maniac.
Which would make the entire thing all the more tragic since it was brought about by miscommunication and base human flaws of greed and pride.
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That does make more sense and doesn't go against the actual lore of the world...y'know. Like the movie does.
@@ChasehaWing To be entirely fair to the movie, and playing devil's advocate.... it came out before all the Zanpakutou lore did.
The problem of this movie is the fact that it’s 90% just fan service. The premise was really intriguing, but the central part and the buildup to the finale is bad. Wasted potential. Fun to watch, though, but nothing more
Lmao Diamond Dust is actually my favorite Bleach movie. But I understand your criticism of it.
Happy 13th Year Anniversary The Diamond Dust Rebellion !!!
Kenpachi moments were awesome
I loved the way you mentioned izuru and shuhei just as they flashed into the scene😂😂😂
This film was actually my personal favorite Bleach movie in the franchise, but looking back on it now.... yeah..... they really messed up with the Lore.
It's funny how many internal conflicts and irrational decisions happen in the Soul Society.
Even that this is my least favorite Bleach movie, you give it fair review and I agree with you, but I also have one personal issue with this movie: Hitsugaya is my least favorite captain, so for my, movie that is about him is boring
You said how did the person know about the transportation of the soul key:
Mid movie I thought that: since he transported to the hueco mundo, he must have already had the seal. So my guess was he was already in the transportation cart thing waiting to ambush hitsugaya.
Honestly I noticed a lot of what you said and acknowledged like 10 minutes after finished watching but I generally really enjoyed it more than my first watch for memories of nobody which felt like a single ep about ichigo and senna while this movie had a lot of little moments to appreciate and I felt like the characters that were in the scenes, weren't unreasonably forced to be there opposite to the ending of the first movie.
End note: I don't know just read the first part of this comment.
So according to the lore from TYBW Ichibei from squad zero is responsible for naming *every* Zanpakuto that is created. So the only reason that there are two Hyouinmaru’s and all this shit happened is because Ichibei wasn’t feeling particularly creative one day.
Kenpachi: Let's murder Christmas! Christmas! Let's murder Christmas!
This movie had the potential to be one of the best Bleach movies, but they completely butchered this movie. The events in this movie doesn’t make any sense, the new characters doesn’t get fleshed out (the twins especially) and the way characters express their emotions is just lackluster. It feels like they just threw together a story and screenplay so they could get to animation the damn thing. It’s really a shame.
Fade to black imo was the worse, it was sooo damn annoying. The typical use of the soul society betraying ichigo is something that always is used as an excuse for ichigo to fight the enemy alone, only for them to come to their senses and help him. Not to mention the two annoying antagonist and a memory erasing plot to top it all off. Diamond dust is my favorite. I love how i thought the movie ended where they had the stand off at the cliffside in the soul society, but then they finished it off with an all out battle with some great action from everyone, hitsugaya isn't my favorite so i didn't mind the lack of development on him, but i enjoyed it enough to have fun. It was a movie after all so i expected alot of plot holes and shoe-ins so new audiences wouldn't be confused with overexplained context, it has a simply digestible plot that any new audience member can enjoy, so i definitely agree with what you said at the end where you noted that if we just wanted great action and animation, then go ahead. I love bleach and the lore but sometimes i crave a good time at the movies a little more than a deep enriched story (but that is just me) So getting a break from the canon story line and diving into a completely new one in this movie was honestly refreshing at the time of the release, so I naturally have a soft spot for this film. If we wanted more development then i guess this should've been a arc in itself in order to explain everything. As for the rest of my favs: Hell verse close second, Memories of nobody third, and fade to black is a faaaaaaaaaaaaar fourth.
For me, Memories of nobody> Fade to Black= Hellverse. Haven't seen DDR. I agree with you, Fade to Black was kind of ruined for me by the annoying antagonists. My god that girl was annoying. I liked the story but didn't like the ending.
In fairness, I don't think we actually knew how strong Kyoraku was when the movie came out. It would've had to happen before the fight with Starkk, before that Byakuya and Kenpachi at least were believed stronger, and Toshiro was known for making Gin struggle. Yamamoto is the same guy who tried to execute Rukia no matter how suspicious her execution was, and was willing to destroy half the Gotei 13 to follow the rules. Crazy decisions Yama makes are pretty normal tbh, he's powerful, not wise.
This is my least favorite of the Bleach movies, but I wanted to bring up some things to consider.
My bleach movie ranking is best to worst: fade to black, hellverse, memories of nobody and finally diamond dust rebellion.
Good video can't wait for fade to black and hellverse reviews also I hope there will be a new bleach movie coming out with all this hype bleach is generating.
I loved this movie because of the Toshiro screen time.
If this movie doesn't have the best animation budget of its entirety, I don't know what movie series has. Cause holy shit are the animations good.
I don't think Toshiro left with the arancar girls I always thought that he used used them as a distraction (because he knew Ichigo would be okay) so he could get away because he knew Ichigo wouldn't leave him alone
Wouldn't it have been more interesting if HItsugaya had a twin? That would make the whole two people having the same zanpakuto thing a bit easier to swallow. And made it way more emotionally impactful because instead of Hitsugaya killing some dude who is his friend the antagonist in the story is his literal family member.
Memories of nobody, and fade to black are my favorite. I agree with you about this movie. Also a 5th bleach movie would be very cool.
It would have been cool if hitsugaya could repair that broken zanpakuto and be able to have two or maybe the two could merge and become an even stronger one.
18:04 RIGHT HERE TRIPLE D! DIAMOND DUST DISAPPOINTMENT! OH MAN THAT IS MONEY, BROTHER. *RIGHT HERE* !
Remember how in anime just before second phase of Ichigo vs Ulquiorra fight there was this post-ending "and cut for today" ?
Where they were going on a break in "recording"?
This film feels like that but drunk.
Problems I've had with the Bleach movies has been that most of them try to shoehorn too many characters into the plot and having Ichigo be a major player. I would have preferred to keep the series about Ichigo but have the movies fill in gaps or separate side stories without Ichigo having to be involved (minus Hellverse or Memories of Nobody). DDR really needed to be about Hitsugaya and either Rangiku or Hinamori.
Least good*
Bruh all the bleach movies are good
Also Abridged did it better
I know this story is half baked and doesn't mesh with the facts of the manga, but I always loved it since my favorite character was the center of the plot. Back when this movie came out anime movies usually never made sense or were canon so I wasn't surprised with how it turned out.
i liked TDDR , when i was in highschool. i think i was being bias because Toshiro was and is my favorite character
Oh man, its my favourite movie :( Maybe because im a Toshiro fanboy lmao
this movie was made purely because of how popular Toshiro is tbh
other than that it is not that great, it make purely to made money out of all 4 movie
I didn't mind the movie
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This movie kinda broke the idea of zanpakutous being unique, and being the face of wielder's power. Besides it didn't really give in any impactful lore other than hitsugaya had bestie being killed because of plot.
If people were known to have certain power without even them releasing them, I don't think Ikkaku could've kept his secret for long either, mind you.
Pea Games I mean nobody logically knew about ikkakus sword unless they fought him the secret thing still holds up because this movie isn’t cannon to the main story
@@PatrickWilliams-ip5wz I know
@@PatrickWilliams-ip5wz it just breaks the understanding, especially for new readers.
Pea Games how if non of these events are brought up or mentioned it’s not like dragon ball where the anime is more cannon hell half the first season cuts a lot of stuff from the manga
That’s my favorite one tho😭 Memories of nobody is tied as my favorite
Yeah, going through all the Bleach movies for the first time and after really enjoying the first one...
I was pretty bored by this movie, it felt like a movie with so little going on that the runtime felt longer than it should have been, by the hour mark, it felt like I was in the final 10 minutes of the story, but no, I had 29 minutes left?!
Toshiro's one of my top 3 favourite Captains of the Gotei 13 but this movie really did him no favors, I couldn't care about Kusaka at all, there was an interesting idea about how he was betrayed by the Soul Society and left for dead, but its never focused on, and everyone but Ichigo and Friends acted like idiots the whole movie, which really baffled me
I have to admit when you first watch the film it’s gd but when you rewatch it it actually does have a lot of flaws. I love Bleach to much to say worse 😅
I honestly felt like this was the best movie. Maybe it’s because it was about Toshiro
What bother me is how in the hell kusaka take down kyouroku..
its kinda coincidental how they had ichigo take care of hitsugaya the captain of squad 10 and former 3rd seat to his father.
Nothing beats fade to black and hell verse (movie three and four)
At least 2 has the best soundtrack
I have not seen the movie but I would assume that if the Captain is presumed to have turned on the company, his entire team would be held for questioning to see who knows what, and who is an accomplice. At least that would make sense to me and I have absolutely no military training.
And yes I would watch for Hitsugaya Toshiro
This movie to me is the BEST movie. I don't care what people say about it being bad because to me, this was the first Bleach thing I've ever watched. I didn't even knew what was bleach until I was in middle school and my mum brought the first 4 DVD boxes for me and my brother. I watched this movie while in primary school and thought it was awesome. This movie was the one that made me like Bleach and then watching the bleach episodes made me love bleach.
In my opinion, the Fourth Movie was terrible. It didn't make any sense what so ever. Like what was the whole point of it? It didn't drag me into the movie unlike the first three movies did. I feel like that the Fourth Movie was rushed unlike the others. Sure it did explain to us about what happens if you're in Hell but it's just not brilliant like the others.
Another reason why I like this movie is not because Toshiro is my favourite characters but you actually learn more about his past. I know that Kusaka and Toshiro having the same Zanpakuto and having to fight to the death part was confusing and didn't make no sense but I absolutely LOVE this movie and this will always be my favourite movie, even if they make other ones in 2021, The Diamond Dust Rebellion will ALWAYS be my favourite.
But I know people have different opinions on what movies they like and hate. That's just what people are. But all that I'm saying is that the Hell Verse was terrible and didn't make any sense.
My order on what's my favourite bleach movie is to my most hated movie is:
#1 The Diamond Dust Rebellion.
#2 Fade to Black
#3 Memories of Nobody.
#4 Hell Verse.
Also sorry for rambling.
Same
Anyone gonna say anything about Ichigo dad was hitsugaya’s captain.
Ion know man, Toshiro is a captain, but he's also a kid. As it has been established, he is not the type to speak openly about himself to others and as a child (even though he has spent over 100 years in the Soul society) seeing a person, *_your best friend_* you thought was dead for years show up just like that, would surely confuse a lot of goddamn people. So some _some_ of his actions *_could_* be justified. I'm not disagreeing with this video, on the contrary, I just had to say that.