The Punishment of Saera Targaryen (Jaehaerys Reign) Game Of Thrones History & Lore

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  • @WorldOfWesteros
    @WorldOfWesteros  4 роки тому +37

    Over the last week the channel has passed over 1000 subscribers which for me is a hard number to comprehend when i first started doing all the 18 months ago. It’s been well worth all the effort and work and I enjoy making content. I just wanted to say thank you to all who have given me support and those who like and comment each week. I know some of you have been here since the start and your support has always given me the encouragement I needed when this were not always going to plan. So thank you. I have already been approved for monetization. I am playing around with it right now seeing how that works and how it impacts videos. I don’t want ads to impact your enjoyment, so i am still considering if it's worth doing it yet. I have something big planned to mark this milestone in the coming weeks, a big project I have been working on for a long time. As always thank you for your support and I look forward to chatting in the comments with as many of you as I can.
    Many Thanks,
    Dylan

  • @ryanelliott71698
    @ryanelliott71698 4 роки тому +165

    I would LOVE to see a live action of Jahaerys doing the trial by combat. Gives me a bit of a reminder of the mountain vs the viper fight.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  4 роки тому +3

      I 100% got the same kind of vibe from it, would be great to see one screen one day

    • @user-hp6pj4sy3k
      @user-hp6pj4sy3k 3 роки тому +6

      Yes it was such an excellent plot twist when I read it. I really hope we get to see Jaehaerys in House of the Dragon, his part of the book was MUCH more interesting than the Dance of the Dragons.

  • @fameasser123
    @fameasser123 Рік тому +119

    "They made our daughter into a whore."
    "She always was" The king replied bluntly.
    LMAO XD. Wow, my king has some hella cold remarks about his daughter.... which are super hilarious, lol.

    • @jesusjavierondo6774
      @jesusjavierondo6774 Рік тому +2

      But it's very nice for a father to say that about his own daughter.

    • @definitely_not_a_cow1750
      @definitely_not_a_cow1750 Рік тому +17

      @@jesusjavierondo6774well, she was

    • @higharchbishopofteatasting6217
      @higharchbishopofteatasting6217 10 місяців тому +18

      ​@@jesusjavierondo6774Sorry, Jaehaerys was too smart to be blind to his daughters actions like Viserys was..

    • @eevee3168
      @eevee3168 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@higharchbishopofteatasting6217 He was terrible father. He should know Seara is crazy many years before.

    • @higharchbishopofteatasting6217
      @higharchbishopofteatasting6217 9 місяців тому +10

      @@eevee3168 He did, but unlike Rhae he didn't make an excuse for her every time she fucked up, he'd tell her to quit it, she kept going until she hit the point where she was forced to be a septa

  • @ChiefKene
    @ChiefKene 2 роки тому +258

    Jaegaerys was legit. Bro, dude took a trial by combat at 49 when he could have ordered any one of king guards and murked that kid. They just need to flush out the entire first 150 years of the reign as a TV show.

  • @singanddance-q9b
    @singanddance-q9b 2 роки тому +64

    This is one character I wish we could see on the show. She was probably one of the most alarming and interesting characters. She gave me real sociopath vibes. And it was literally right on the cusp of the timeline the showrunners chose.

  • @PlanetShi
    @PlanetShi 2 роки тому +88

    "Would she have taken a dragon🍆 aswell" jahaerys was a savage😂

  • @sharp52092
    @sharp52092 2 роки тому +62

    I wish you had left the bit in about young Alicent reading to the Old King and how he calling her, "Saera".

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +30

      Yeah, at the end she was still his daughter and he loved her, despite the falling out.

    • @sharp52092
      @sharp52092 2 роки тому +13

      @@thalmoragent9344 True, but there's a theory that Alicent is Saera's daughter. We know nothing of her mother.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +15

      @@sharp52092
      Would be interesting but, that's assuming Saera slept with Otto when she was with the Septa's down south in Old Town. Not impossible but you'd think we'd have more documentation on that, particularly Alicent's mom being a story of intrigue for those in the Hightower lands

    • @gennaronarducci1333
      @gennaronarducci1333 Рік тому +1

      ​​​@@thalmoragent9344 I don't really know how possible this could be (especially because in the serie they made Alicent 15 - 16 at the start, so i don't know) but Alicent being a bastard (even if have being legitimated cause she had the Hightower name) would be very ironic since her "religious fanaticism" and her grudge towards Rhaenyras boys

    • @gennaronarducci1333
      @gennaronarducci1333 Рік тому +1

      ​@@thalmoragent9344 But how old was Otto in the start of the serie, and how old would have he be when the Saera thing took place?

  • @phousefilms
    @phousefilms 3 роки тому +143

    Braxton Beesbury: I can take down any old man with a sword easily.
    Jaehaerys: I'm about to end this mans whole career.
    I think that Jaehaerys had the dragons anger, just like his uncle before him and some of his descendants after him. His Kingsguard swore his rage when his Master of Coin, Rego Draz, was murdered that they were sure they were looking at Maegor the Cruel when he demanded Draz's murderers gutted and hanged. The threats to Braxton for his punishment seem extremely harsh for THIS king precisely, but I think that they were all to push Braxton foolishly into a fight with Jaehaerys(who had trained extremely hard from a young age to be the fighter his father, Aenys, was not), all so the king could PERSONALLY take his anger out on Braxton and murder him himself.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  3 роки тому +17

      I do think history is very kind to Jaehaerys, he did a lot of questions stuff too. Your point is well thoughts out, yes he was a good king, he learned form his predecessors mistakes. But he still had dragonsblood and still had his moments of rage

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms 2 роки тому +12

      @@WorldOfWesteros Truth. I mean, despite all his love for Alysanne, he kept being pretty comfortable with the patriarchy of Westeros, waving aside the whole "First Night"thing until Alysanne AND Barth got on his ass about it.

    • @annieandelsieofarendelle3294
      @annieandelsieofarendelle3294 2 роки тому +4

      @@phousefilms I honestly wonder if, without his wife, Jaehaerys would be so loved since she was to one to cool his temper and force him to confront the darker side of problems than just what's easiest for him.

    • @NRV0
      @NRV0 2 роки тому +4

      Um yeah lol. I mean up to this point in the book, he has already displayed a couple of times when he was upset and angry. I like when he married Alyassane and his mother was scolding him for making a risky move and then a maester tried to do the same and he told the maester that he'd take it from his mother but not from him and that if he open his mouth again he would have it sown shut 😂.

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms 2 роки тому

      @@NRV0 Yeah, Septon Mattheus.

  • @philippeblais8594
    @philippeblais8594 2 роки тому +53

    I'll add something about Saera and her time in the Lysene (correct me if I'm wrong) pleasure house. Years later during the great council of 101 AC. 3 bastard sons of Saera came over from Essos to try and see if they get the throne for themselves.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +22

      Yeah, don't know what they were thinking. If they're still around in Essos then some Targaryen blood still lingers in Lysene, among the few other Valyrians that are there, the last remnants of their race left over after the Doom.
      Maybe they kept their heritage in mind and, while no longer carrying the name Targaryen (since their fathers where whoever I guess) may have married with some Blackfyre's later on, for all we know. Just food for thought.
      Either way, some small strain of Targaryen Blood of the Dragon is over in Essos now

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 2 роки тому +8

      @@thalmoragent9344 Emphasis on tried. Since I'm pretty sure they were denied immediately both on account of their royal stemming from the female line and they being bastards.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +3

      @@philippeblais8594
      Yeah true, I agree that's definitely why. Thanks for the info you gave out too, BTW. Lots don't know that there was definitely more than just Viserys and Rhaenys who were on the list of possible inheritors.

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 2 роки тому +1

      @@thalmoragent9344 Another fun fact. Fire and Blood had it be Laenor and Viserys be the final 2 contenders. Not Laenor's mom, Rhaenys. Part of the reason Laenor lost in that is because his royal blood stems from the female line. But that at the time, he was only 7 and a great grandson of Jaehaerys. While Voserys was 24 and a grandson. More closely related to the king compared to Laenor.

  • @charlesor1023
    @charlesor1023 7 місяців тому +12

    "she always was"
    maaaaaaaan king chadhaerys the savage!

  • @bensonfang1868
    @bensonfang1868 3 роки тому +207

    Saera didn’t admire Maegor, she said that Maegor’s behavior regarding wives excuses her behavior regarding men.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  3 роки тому +98

      I do wonder if Saera's reputation was exacerbated and made worse by the maesters who wrote the history books to create more scandal

    • @everythingdivine
      @everythingdivine 2 роки тому +6

      @@WorldOfWesteros probably

    • @Kaboomboo
      @Kaboomboo 2 роки тому +28

      I don't know why she would think of it as an excuse. Maegor was remembered as an awful king.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +32

      @@Kaboomboo
      True. Using a man like that as an excuse to be the way she was is a terrible argument.

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 2 роки тому +5

      @@Kaboomboo Targaryens exceptionalism was a thing tbh.

  • @Shadowwind4
    @Shadowwind4 Місяць тому +1

    “She always was” never heard any truer words

  • @ygnit5793
    @ygnit5793 Рік тому +5

    The more I watch videos on Jaeherys' reign, the more impressed I am how wise, understanding and loving of a mother Alysanne was, especially given how many children she bore and how different characters they all possessed.

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Рік тому +16

    Something I find interesting about Seara’s jab about Maegor is that in House of the Dragon, like when Viserys confronts Daemon, several times Aegon I having two wives is mentioned but no one mentions Maegor having multiple wives.

    • @AaronGuest
      @AaronGuest Рік тому +14

      Because no one wants to use Maegor as an example.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому +6

      ​@@AaronGuestThat's why it may be Maesters claimed she used Maegor as an example, when she likely used Aegon: The Maesters are strongly against women having power on their own right, and her comparing herself to Maegor would paint her in less sympathetic light.

    • @AaronGuest
      @AaronGuest Рік тому +4

      @@Sienisota What wvidence do you have to support that theory? You can't say they lying with no evidence.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Рік тому +4

      @@AaronGuest The books hinting that Maesters wanted the dragons dead. A lot of characters speaking about Maesters whispering lies to their masters. About how much power they have in their unassuming position, where no-one can say if they deliberately hindered someone whom they were supposed to help. Word of the author that Maesters as historians aren't reliable. I also said *Maybe* meaning I'm not claiming knowledge, simply saying what might've happened, since comparison with Maegor looks bad and doesn't make sense for her to use as a figure to imitate.

  • @Qbgarden
    @Qbgarden 2 роки тому +15

    Very good quality videos, Your channel is going to blow up as the new show airs, you deserve it. Very good job.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 роки тому +1

      it's only been on two weeks and it's been crazy, but i'm very thankful people are enjoying the content

    • @Qbgarden
      @Qbgarden 2 роки тому

      @@WorldOfWesteros Yea, ive been binging alot myself and I know im not the only one the new show will help for sure but you do a really good job and have great video ideas and im sure youl come up with more, its a good thing you put in so much work and patience already to be able to see results because you can only improve from here, specially if you want to continue to work hard. Thanks for all your hard work, its quite entertaining and informative and also pretty comfortable to sleep to. Lmao

  • @kayo5011
    @kayo5011 2 роки тому +47

    Lmaoo Jae is a savage.

  • @jabirjones1332
    @jabirjones1332 Рік тому +13

    The old king jaehaerys was the greatest king out of all the targaryan kings.. he was a warrior, dragon rider, he didn’t disgrace the good Queen allysane in any way, he was political and open handed with the lords of Westeros and he was smart…

  • @sergeant_chris6209
    @sergeant_chris6209 2 роки тому +39

    I think you have accidentally swapped the portraits of Beesbury and Mooton. Beesbury is probably the one dressed in black and yellow, since they are the colours of his house. Also he has he has a very sly facial expression, while Mooton (the one you put as Beesbury) shows in his face some compassion, which Braxton would generally not

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  2 роки тому +6

      It's possible, stuff like that has happened a few time. Normally because where i found the art has it listed wrong. I think in this case this was how it was ladled but your 100% right it does seem and feel like it should be the other way around.

    • @sergeant_chris6209
      @sergeant_chris6209 2 роки тому +5

      @@WorldOfWesteros i want to take this chance to say that, aside from the odd minor mistake, your videos are really entertaining, and you really seem to be working hard (your catalogue is huge lol). I hope the renewed interest from the new show gets you the numbers you really deserve

  • @Divine_Chareka
    @Divine_Chareka 4 роки тому +6

    Let's gooooo 1K subs baybay!!, the content is good too bro. Many people will join us here just you wait & see.

  • @sternenwind00e
    @sternenwind00e 2 роки тому +13

    Knowing that much of GRMs writing is inspired of real European history,
    I wonder, if there is a real life inspiration for this character.

    • @Milkra
      @Milkra Рік тому +8

      His ex when he was in high school I’d bet lmao

    • @bailey03
      @bailey03 Рік тому +8

      The daughter of the first Roman emperor Augustus. Julia, she cheated on her husband (aledgedly with multiple men) and was banished to an island. Ironicly it was her father that made the law that cheating was illegal.

    • @TheTwinkiefoot
      @TheTwinkiefoot Рік тому

      Napoleon's favored sister was also a well known thot. There is a lot of overlap between both their personalities as well

  • @minatodroger7890
    @minatodroger7890 2 роки тому +78

    She always was 😆 🤣 😂 well atleast she getting paid for it now. Jae was a savage man loved him.

  • @franciscor.m.8003
    @franciscor.m.8003 2 роки тому +73

    She always was

  • @hsnsbsbsbsnsbsbsns6041
    @hsnsbsbsbsnsbsbsns6041 4 роки тому +29

    Why was jaehaerys harsh with Braxton especially?

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  4 роки тому +19

      my take is her very much took much of this as a personal insult hence the harshness. I also think what happened with Aerea and her similarities with Saera played on his mind

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 2 роки тому +33

      He was the only one that would have been considered a full adult, so he was the one who should have known better

    • @nadyayap2714
      @nadyayap2714 2 роки тому +34

      Braxton Beesbury was the one who did the ‘training’ for all of them, according to Perianne Moore and Alys Turnberry. He also threatened their servants and septas if they ever told anyone what they did.

    • @tahmkench118
      @tahmkench118 2 роки тому

      A year late he's a fcking groomer

    • @mike.n.n.7723
      @mike.n.n.7723 2 роки тому +14

      He was the ringleader of the whole group, and was the oldest

  • @sankarkrishnan407
    @sankarkrishnan407 2 роки тому +19

    If Saera approached Balerion the dragon accept her as his rider. Balerion liked the rebellious targaryns

    • @zazrin5895
      @zazrin5895 Рік тому +2

      Then she could be Aerea 2.0 😭🤣👌

    • @emoneestep
      @emoneestep Рік тому +1

      Nah, Saera would have died like Aerea. I think Alyssa could have claimed Balerion and managed to control him due to her being a very adept rider and having a passion for it.

  • @kry9521
    @kry9521 4 роки тому +9

    Do you have the link to the map you used for this video? It's dope

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks, i made it myself. Been adding bits on over the last few months. Only have one section left to go which i am working on now, then i plan on making it available for people. Should be done in the next month or so. I'm going to make a video on how i did it, so keep an eye out.

  • @phoenicianprince4635
    @phoenicianprince4635 9 місяців тому +4

    Roy Connington was a bit of an idiot, it the child looked like Braxton he could denounce the child and send them off to ward somewhere, if as it actually turned out it was his kid, he would be safe from shame and might not have died.

  • @Kaboomboo
    @Kaboomboo 19 днів тому

    Arrogant kid: "Which old man will I be fighting?"
    Chadhaerys: "This old man!"
    OOoooo yeah.
    But seriously, Saera is a sociopath. I don't understand why anyone would hold her in any regard. She abuses those around her, doesn't care who has to pay the price for her wrongdoings, and believes she's above reprimand. And she broke her mother's heart with no regard. But eh, at least when she fled she made her own living and didn't rely on her family's income.

  • @saracorrea8328
    @saracorrea8328 4 роки тому +8

    Congratulations 🎉 good boy Wilson

  • @lwilliams7448
    @lwilliams7448 Рік тому +2

    Why did Braxton Beesbury get such a harsh punishment when Saera admitted to having sex with Mooten and Connington as well?

    • @getfreur2458
      @getfreur2458 8 місяців тому

      Well, because he was a know whore maker who already had 2 bastards before even reaching 19 and for what i understand, he was the one that had the biggest influence in making Saera into a whore. I would't be suprised if he was the one that convinced her into coercing her friends into having sex with them.

  • @Kevin-ck6bu
    @Kevin-ck6bu 2 роки тому +12

    So Saera could fly a dragon?🤔

    • @amyra8159
      @amyra8159 2 роки тому +11

      Nope...i think she was caught before she could claim one

    • @Kevin-ck6bu
      @Kevin-ck6bu 2 роки тому +4

      @@amyra8159 yep. You're right. But technically she would have had the blood line to do it🤔

  • @chrismitchell457
    @chrismitchell457 Рік тому

    Drake sounds like a straight g

  • @FMJIRISH
    @FMJIRISH 2 роки тому +2

    Holy fuck.

  • @laraanne5133
    @laraanne5133 Рік тому +7

    Her and viserra deserved better

    • @sidbid1590
      @sidbid1590 Рік тому +1

      Viserra was vain, but didn't deserve her fate. She deserved better. Fuck Saera.

    • @dianamasters687
      @dianamasters687 Рік тому +8

      Eh viserra did. Saera was extremely abusive towards mentally handicapped people. Kind of an indicator she didn’t need to be anywhere near power

    • @leeshropshire6346
      @leeshropshire6346 6 місяців тому +2

      Viserra yes Saera? Hell no. She belonged the silk street long before this.

  • @sit-insforsithis1568
    @sit-insforsithis1568 2 роки тому

    I think she is septa lamore

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 2 роки тому +16

      She is far too old to be Lemore unless Lemore is about 250 years old

  • @jordansams8902
    @jordansams8902 5 місяців тому

    What if Braxton beesbury won the trial by combat?

  • @mekasa6721
    @mekasa6721 2 роки тому +12

    jaehaerys and alysanne are good king and queen with difficult children.😑🫣