*The 3 speed is good **MyBest.Tools** trying to keep to a low speed for a long time with just the trigger is hard.The only negative is I keep bumping the on/off switch when changing blades, not dangerous but annoying.*
Based on your review I have purchased Fein corded tool.One of the best power tools that I ever had!Outstanding quality and value!Thank you Skillbuilder!
My first multi tool is about 7 years old and cost about £25! It's corded and cordless one would be fantastic but for a cheap guild from Argos it has done me well and always one of them tools that gets me out of a jam and the vibration isn't to bad. Great video
I've got the Bosch, 18v, I have several other bosch 18v tools so I had batteries and could buy the bare tool. I like it a lot, the starlock system is great. I really like that you mentioned the whole corded vs cordless debate for DIYs. I've had this conversation with friends who are weekend warrior DIYers, I tell them to NOT buy the cheap cordless tools, the batteries are the weak link, buy a corded whatever it will last you a lifetime and no batteries to contend with. Great review. Cheers from Tokyo Stu
Thanks Roger you helped me make my mind up on the new tool, I have moved away from 18v Dewalt tools to 12v Milwaukee tools and I have not been disappointed so another 12v Milwaukee will be welcomed aboard
Agree. Chopsaw could do. Also if at all possible, some DIY level mitre saws would be nice to be reviewed by you. I have a 18v Ryobi compact sliding mitre saw and it is brilhante for the price you pay when you compare with big brands.
I really appreciate your videos and the experience you have and the care you put into them shines through. When deciding on new tools, it is a considered choice and your reviews really helps inform and reassure so many thanks.
Good review with lots of detail. To add to Rogers comment to DIY's, I would reccomend corded tools to them. Unless you go through work/charge cycles with the batteries they don't last.
Many thanks for this informative review Roger. As a DIYer I'm pleased you mentioned the budget brands. Although I have a number of Makita tools I have a Parkside cordless multi tool. It must be worlds away from the pro names but it has impressed me with its capability and run time on a 1.5 Ah battery. One useful and surprisingly effective feature my machine has is through-pad dust extraction for the triangular sanding tool. It's a real cheapo clip on thing and requires a vacuum to be attached. Seems a bit mad hooking a cabled vac onto a cordless tool, but hey ho, it works well 😅. I didn't see you mention such a feature on these review units. I'd love to see a comparison of the various multi tool cutting blades and attachments. They range in price greatly.
Excellent review of a guy who understands his job, has experience and perspective. Thank you. Even though most of my machines are Hitachi, I'm going to buy a Milwaukee along with their new battery operated ratchet. 🙂
Glad this video is on today. Brilliant review for a brilliant tool. A multitool is genuinely one of those tools that makes you wonder why you didn't get it sooner. Thanks Roger
All lithium Ion batteries like to remain at as close to half charge as possible, that leave the internals balanced, and they will last the longest this way, Which is why if you leave a battery for a long time, you want to leave it as you say, with 6-70% chaarge, and then as it drains over time it will spend its time around the 50% mark :)
I have been working in the home remodeling industry for 34 years my very first multi-tool was the corded Fein tool. since then I have used many different battery-powered multi-tool snd for me i have to choose the bosch for cutting speed accuracy and battery life.
I’ve got all makita tools but didn’t want to buy their multi-tool - not brushless, not star lock etc.. I’ve gone for the Bosch which I’m very happy with and which offers good value for the performance. Found the vibration data and noise data in the video useful. I run the Bosch on low speed when I can to minimise unnecessary noise and vibration and that helps. If we’re doing more of these then please do job site table saws. Keep up the good work - found this series very useful.
I've got the Makita and it lasts a fair while on a 5aH, doesn't vibrate your hand making it good for trying to get straight cuts, it is pretty heavy though. Bosch Curve Tec blades are the best(IMO).
Perfect video again . ..looks like the DeWalt for me then thanks Rog ..in about 4 weeks I will need a table saw 👍. Off to Screwfix now . Have a great weekend.
Milwaukee 12v blew me away lads had the old version of the dewalt but it gave up on me time for a upgraded decided to take a stab at the Milwaukee completely on the dewalt platform but took a plunge on this absolute animal of a machine literally takes using a multitool to a new height no weight or size problems here and power is on point with anything I've used on any 18v platform here's to the milwaukee 👍
I must say I agree about Fein. used to supply these to my workforce when they first turned up and have kept with them ever since. Try as they might sometimes, my guys could rarely break them. The same applies to drills especially, you do get what you pay for in this instance. We must all cut our cloth according to our budget however and these days one can really get a good selection of tools for very little expense if only occasional use is needed.
I used to do the windows for the London Underground Jubilee line trains. The front windscreens are about 50mm thick in a recessed bonded aperture, it was about 2 to 3 hours hard work, I used a Fein corded oscillating tool to cut them out, no matter how hard I pushed it that tool did not give up, it often got so hot I couldn't pick it up unless I had thick leather gloves on but it just did not stop. Fein definitely the King.
Roger, I am glad you asked what tool next!! Let say that I found this Channel when looking for track saw reviews and you and Robin did the best one I could find and were fun as well. I subscribed. I would love a nice in depth review on routers/trim routers!! When to use each, which is best for what and what models are best in those uses. Thanks mate and Happy New Year!!
Thanks Daniel. We will try and look at those tools in 2021. It is expensive to do these tests, particularly when we buy the tools, but being free of the manufacturers interference is worth it
@@SkillBuilder oh for sure, then you have to round up a bunch of work to justify having 14 routers! JK! No, I'm sure its pricey and hopefully the channel helps that cost.I like the onsite content but these reviews are useful too and probably easier to do these days with covid restrictions.
Yes, it would be good to know what is the best "cheap" mains cable multi tool for us DIY/occasional users. I'm sure some are complete crap, but I don't really need a battery, high end version.
@@raytrevor1 I don't think multi-tools (and sanders) need a battery like the way miter, circ, and table saws do, but having a corded Dremel multi-tool and a cordless Dewalt, the cordless is so much easier to use.
You guys are top shelf.! Simple as that. For anyone who is undecided and lucky enough to come across the Skill Builder perspective. You can literally just go off their opinion. Because when ya get the lowdown as Roger Bixby just showcased so well, if you don’t know already, honesty+experience+knowledge+common sense= ability to articulate perspectives we just saw At the least, you’ve got a great jump off point. That “opinion” becomes more fact. Appreciate ya from across the pond! Damn solid show. I would interject a lil about batteries, and the upkeep of lith-ion tech. But what you said isn’t wrong by any stretch so...👌🤣. Look forward to the next one!! BTW w/o even having seen the video on the counter intuitive restricting regs, or “Rogers Rant on Safety” yep I fully agree🤣😉😂...insanity at best what’s going on. Regards!
Thanks for vid. Very nice to understand, you use a clear and unexcited pronunciation. Even it was not on purpose, nice to take care of non native speakers.
I currently have a corded Stanley fatMax, does everything I need but my current battery platform is the Bosch 18V. Thinking about getting the Bosch, as a gardener I end up doing all sorts of jobs and I don't always have access to power outlets in the field so to speak!
I bought this Fein a few years ago to replace the corded one I had, as I needed to use it where I couldnt plug in etc. If I lost it tomorrow I`d buy another one the next day. Great review !
Just bought the Milwaukee 18v Fuel - I am impressed generally with Milwaukee tools so I have a lot of batteries which obviously influenced my decision. The vibration is low compated to others I have used and so is the noise levels. One thing is the angle of reciprocation which is over 4 degrees and thus you can cut qucikly. Don't know how this compares with others but it was mentioned in another review on the Milwaukee I viewed. So for jobs requiring a lot of quick cuts this may be important.
first of all Roger,a happy and healthy newyear m8,could you make a video on how and for what all the different utilities are used,it blows my mind the different addons you have for this machine
You've a done crackin job on this series guys, well done. I've enjoyed all of the videos and I think you have been very fair and thorough in your opinions which are obviously correct as I have the Fein as my primary tool and the M12 Milwaukee as my secondary tool. 😂😘 I now hope that Mrs Bisby is enjoying her newly renovated bureau, repointed wall and freshly grouted shower!!!. Cheers.
I like what you said about fain. It has less vibration. As a carpenter I had Dewalt, most cases the battery it’s in the way and you cannot fill your fingers after 1min of use, too much vibration. Had a Bosch, after heavy use the head come out, screws snapped in the body, and bad vibrations.
We are replacing the subfloor in our home ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx0vyBwjtx9GGOuiqUVT2sRoYqmDoNT_RI and this tool has proved to be invaluable. So many different uses. Cutting away boards in tight places, cutting water pipes to name a few. We love Dewalt tools in general, but have really enjoyed the flexibility and durability of this multitool.
Hi Rodger i have been using Fein for 23 years have 2 of the old type corded not much goes wrong with them just sometimes have to tighten wire connections inside and replace brushes every 3 years but these tools run most days doing regrouting showers etc in the market now to buy a new one it will be a fein .
Great video! Fein's are incredible. I have 2 old style corded models. I don't care for the Starlock due to blade expense and will not buy. They need to bring back a model that takes universal blades and call it the "Fein Classic". Thanks again,
For the festool and fein Oslo tool company sell a adapter so using the cheaper blades is no problems. Having arthritis in my hands the festool is great and a massive improvement over the dewalt I had.
Loved this, thanks Dylan and Roger. Santa brought me the dewalt and it’s fantastic value and runs so well off 2amp batteries (2 included). Great review of these tools. Cordless angle grinders next maybe? 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Good suggestion I have a couple of cordless angle grinders. The Brushless Makita is fantastic vs my Cheapo Parkside.. but my 35 year old Black and Decker Pro that I bought for £15 when Halfords closed thier Buchanan St store in Glasgow, is one of THE best buys i ever made.. its still going strong... while others have been and gone🤣👍
@@G-Cam1 there’s a tiler on Build with A&E (Chanel I’d recommend if you love skill builder) and he’s got the brushless makita and it looks useful. I’ve got quite a few de Walt kit now though so you start to get stuck
Just about covered every aspect I was looking for when shopping for one of these. Brilliant video and big thanks. The best lesson for me is battery driven tools will spoil batteries if not used for long periods. Up a ladder to cut, size and join two mismatched plastic profiles for a joiner insert to fit separate gutter systems using mains cable not a good idea! Buy a new but rarely used battery multi-tool also not a good idea! Hire a battery multi-tool for the day probably the right idea! And for very occasional DIY housework, go for a mains driven multi-tool because it will still work 3 years later:) Any potential multi-tool purchaser should read this video. I'm assuming each battery machine comes in mains option. Will soon find out.
@@SkillBuilder I'm aiming towards a 240v Fein (anti-vibration) or Bosch so that offers me either a Starlock Plus or (in the case Bosch a Starlock system but what is GOP). Question: If Starlock Plus isn't backwards compatible, why is it that a Starlock Plus cutting tool says it can be used in a Bosch GOP type machine? I recognise some machine can use adaptors but I will take your advice on this matter for a rounded opinion. The other thing I've noticed so far is that Fein colour-coded tools mention multi-material with carbide and tile cutting work but don't diamond cutters which are ofter recommended for cutting tiles. Example: A cut-away tile in-situ where a new sink might encrouch onto existing tile. This begs the question as to whether Fein or Starlock Plus tools are a limiting factor but excluding the oft used price per cutting tool as a for or against argument.
Have the Hikoki Multitool, the tool less blade change is counterintuitive, but once you get used to its a quick way of dealing with the problem. Just keep you hands free of the latch after you've locked it, she'll getcha if you're not careful 😂. Big ups for the video!
I've got an older Einhell one, with variable speed control an without the quick change. Einhell PXC Cordless Multifunctional Tool TC-MG 18 Li-Solo But, I converted it, by using open blades an attachments, an using a posi screwbolt instead of a socket screw. Takes seconds to change an replace blades. Works for me.
Had a topcon rhl3 for about 14 years, never missed a beat, never calibrated but tested against other new levels every few years. Had to take the batteries out or they would run themselves dead. Sold it for 1/2 what I paid for it. Now have a lieca 640, box is too big and receiver is slow to pick and sometimes say too low for a few seconds then go over to too high, will be back to topcon when I can get this one shifted to someone. My old topcon was worth every penny
Love my old mains fien but I recently purchased a set of metabo 18v tools and been a very happy camper with them the multi tool has seen a lot of work cutting bugle head screws out of concrete forms. I use my tools everyday as I am a bridge builder and farmer as well as doing Abit of wood working for fun.
I have quite a few multi tools Bosch DeWalt, yet I keep going back to the Ryobi R18MT-0 18V may not have fancy brushless motors but the swivel head is brilliant for getting angled access plus it has a simple lever to change blades, yes, I know most will say it DIY only. Each to their own. Happy New Year.
As a window glazer I use a multi tool every day and lean all my weight on these for hours. The only ones that last longer theme a month or two are the Fein and the Mikita. That being said I have not used the festool.
Man I used to do that job! Would run that stinking fein (corded, it's been 15 years ago now) til it was hot enough it was hard to hold onto. That gray rubber sealant was a nightmare but never did stop, much less, kill one of those feins!
I've got the previous model Metabo, it has a chunkier locking pin which I prefer to that one. I'm happy with it though, good in gloves hands and nicely balanced, powerful too. No complaints here. Happy New Year Roger 👍
I have the Fein on 240v for 14 years but as soon dewalt bring battery powered multi tool I've never used the main powered one (I have it from 6-7 years and still use it) do the job for sure BUT .... from one and a half year have Festool as well it is from a different planet when I compare with Dewalt one cutting like crazy and all the attachments in the box staying in the same place every time make a huge difference Thanks
I’m an electrician and I’m switching over to exclusively M12 for daily use. My company provides 18V tools whenever I need them, so I’m able to run lightweight tools every day.
I bought the corded DeWalt because of that stored battery issue…as an occasional user, a battery version won’t get enough exercise. However, do note….Do NOT store Li-ion batts on full charge, it will shorten their life cycles (re-charges)…store between half and two thirds charge. Ultimately, and now I have a Dewalt 18v drill, I am torn as to whether I should have just gone full cordless regime. However, when the batt system changes, you might be left with obsolete tools huh!
I use a Ridgid Jobmax which has interchangeable heads like a jigsaw, a right angle drill, a sheet metal nibbler, a sander & an oscillator. It is surprisingly good. Uses the standard batteries, oscillator has a great tool change...best of all it is cheap!
Like you said Roger, for the pro it's more about what battery platform you're on. I'm on the DeWalt platform because I got a great deal on a drill at college and built my kit from there. I have been tempted by Milwaukee a few times but I don't want two sets of batteries and chargers and replacing everything in one hit is just too expensive. So I'm sticking with DeWalt, for now.
I love the DeWalt blade change system but I must admit that I have a couple of Multitools. I have the Original Fein with all the extra accessories (corded) and I had bought the Ridgid 12v battery operated tool and also some different heads like right angle drill and the impact head and last but not least the hammer head (for nails). Then realizing that I had many heads I bought a second unit, because at that time my daughter (12 or 13 yrs old) was helping me and always wanted to do what I was doing. Later on I bought the Ridgid corded unit because I had found the hammer unit was very useful in tight spaces like between joists and did not want to loose this useful tool if and when the Ridgid batteries go dead or taken of the market. Now being invested in many m12 and m18 tools, I am thinking of buying the m18 multitool because the arc of oscillation is greater therefore cutting faster.
Thank you. Really great video. It's really helping me make my choice on my next power tool. I'm also looking at a biscuit jointer - could you make a video on that, please?
i clicked the link in the description but there's nothing on that page that lets me vote. I'd like for you to do showdowns of Jigsaws, Circular Saws and Mitresaws. I think these things are what DIYers use most after drills/impact drivers and it's something the pros always carry around so it will be helpful for a lot of people!
I decided to purchase a metabo battery kit 6 years ago thinking German quality, how wrong could I have been, the 18 volt mid range drill lasted 3 years, the multi tool is just about had it, the batteries lost charge capacity after 2 years, replaced with Dewalt kit a18 volt lithium ion brushless drill 1 year ago and it is miles better constructed and performs faultlessly. I have a corded recipricating saw 5 years old and a corded tile saw, also a Bosch multi drill and double bevel mitre saw. Dewalt and Bosch all the way for me, I do not abuse tools but make them work hard, just my personal thoughts. Building trade for over 30 years.
Great review; very valuable information especially starting at @10:58. For me, as a home hero, corded OIS system sounds about right. I think corded OIS will pack as much punch as a cordless star-lock and it will be more compact and affordable. Yes, I will have to deal with the cord when I needed it occasionally, but I don't have to keep thinking about rechargeable batteries gradually wearing out every few years. Good for the environment, and good for my valet ;-) Consistent raw power.
Good review of the machines and like you say, much depends on the battery platform you're already using. I'd be interested in a chop saw review next, but I can appreciate that they are not small items 😆
Unless I missed it, what you didn't point out is the Fein are multi voltage they will work with any Fein 12v 14v or 18v batteries. I've owned a Cordless MultiMaster for a few years now & the battery life is phenomenal on the 18v 5ah batteries. I've used the Dewalt, Bosch, Makita & Milwaukee on site & none come close to the Fein. Mates scoffed at the price I paid for the Fein but then when they use it they are like wow got to admit it's in a different league.
Great review. I’ve had a cheap cordless multi tool for 3-4yrs., but it recently ceased working. Think it’s the battery but it would be as much to find out what broken and perhaps more than a replacement. If it’s the battery, we’ll the brand isn’t available any more, so while it’s been good, it’s also time for a new tool. Now I’ve already got some DeWalt cordless tools and had been wondering, should I take a risk and go with the same brand or try another. But this review is pointing me in the DeWalt direction and I feel it won’t now be a risky shot in the dark. Thank you.
Next showdown? You mentioned lasers, chop saws. I'm thinking something a bit more glam, something for the motorheads. What do you think about comparison of white spirit brands? Tesco vs. Lidl vs. No Nonsense. I mean that would have me on the edge of my seat. (Seriously though, really enjoyed this video. I still use the old single speed Dewalt. Upgraded my impact driver to the three-speed one and really makes a difference, I wonder if it's worth upgrading the multitool... I do use it a *lot*)
Erm by your numbers the Bosch is the best value. I had the brushless dewalt with out the speed selection switch liked the blade change, found it not too loud but hated the trigger for detail sanding so sold it, looked at the Makita as I have the battery platform as well but the blade change sucks so went with Bosch ticked all the boxes, find myself going for the Bosch grinder rather than the dewalt 54v because of the switch or the Makita grinder because the Bosch runs harder with better longer lasting batteries but then I use my Makita dtd170 impact driver every day and won’t use anything else. Then I find myself looking at the Milwaukee m12 stuff for working on cars and stop myself, it’s a sickness boys,best
Great review. No bullshit, just clear reasons for choice. I have the Dewalt, just because all my power tools are Dewalt, so I have loads of batteries. The 12v Milwaukee looks really compact and lightweight though.
*The 3 speed is good **MyBest.Tools** trying to keep to a low speed for a long time with just the trigger is hard.The only negative is I keep bumping the on/off switch when changing blades, not dangerous but annoying.*
Based on your review I have purchased Fein corded tool.One of the best power tools that I ever had!Outstanding quality and value!Thank you Skillbuilder!
I’ve owned the Fein corded multi tool since 2009 and it’s still working perfectly. They sure make quality tools.
I've the Fein (corded) add is simply outstanding...
My first multi tool is about 7 years old and cost about £25! It's corded and cordless one would be fantastic but for a cheap guild from Argos it has done me well and always one of them tools that gets me out of a jam and the vibration isn't to bad. Great video
I've got the Bosch, 18v, I have several other bosch 18v tools so I had batteries and could buy the bare tool. I like it a lot, the starlock system is great.
I really like that you mentioned the whole corded vs cordless debate for DIYs. I've had this conversation with friends who are weekend warrior DIYers, I tell them to NOT buy the cheap cordless tools, the batteries are the weak link, buy a corded whatever it will last you a lifetime and no batteries to contend with.
Great review.
Cheers from Tokyo
Stu
I use the Milwaukee M12 on a daily basis. As an electrician it’s perfect, totally compact and totally ready to rock.
Thanks Roger you helped me make my mind up on the new tool, I have moved away from 18v Dewalt tools to 12v Milwaukee tools and I have not been disappointed so another 12v Milwaukee will be welcomed aboard
Cracking video to start off the new year. Would love a job site table saw review series.
Every video you do is much appreciated.
Happy new year guys
Been waiting for this and didn’t disappoint, thanks Roger
Thank you! You convinced me I don't need a cordless multi tool. Your review is very comprehensive and clear, and thus quite helpful.
Chopsaw next please!! Cordless in particular.
Thanks Rog. Keep up the good work and Happy New Year to you and yours.
Nathan (Builder in Newcastle)
Agree. Chopsaw could do. Also if at all possible, some DIY level mitre saws would be nice to be reviewed by you. I have a 18v Ryobi compact sliding mitre saw and it is brilhante for the price you pay when you compare with big brands.
I really appreciate your videos and the experience you have and the care you put into them shines through. When deciding on new tools, it is a considered choice and your reviews really helps inform and reassure so many thanks.
I appreciate that!
Good review with lots of detail. To add to Rogers comment to DIY's, I would reccomend corded tools to them. Unless you go through work/charge cycles with the batteries they don't last.
Many thanks for this informative review Roger. As a DIYer I'm pleased you mentioned the budget brands. Although I have a number of Makita tools I have a Parkside cordless multi tool. It must be worlds away from the pro names but it has impressed me with its capability and run time on a 1.5 Ah battery. One useful and surprisingly effective feature my machine has is through-pad dust extraction for the triangular sanding tool. It's a real cheapo clip on thing and requires a vacuum to be attached. Seems a bit mad hooking a cabled vac onto a cordless tool, but hey ho, it works well 😅. I didn't see you mention such a feature on these review units.
I'd love to see a comparison of the various multi tool cutting blades and attachments. They range in price greatly.
Excellent review of a guy who understands his job, has experience and perspective. Thank you. Even though most of my machines are Hitachi, I'm going to buy a Milwaukee along with their new battery operated ratchet. 🙂
Glad this video is on today. Brilliant review for a brilliant tool. A multitool is genuinely one of those tools that makes you wonder why you didn't get it sooner. Thanks Roger
Glad you enjoyed it Hard to imagine how we managed without them
18650 and 21700 lithium cells actually like to be stored in the 60-80% charge range and not full charge. They last a LOT longer this way. Great vid
All lithium Ion batteries like to remain at as close to half charge as possible, that leave the internals balanced, and they will last the longest this way, Which is why if you leave a battery for a long time, you want to leave it as you say, with 6-70% chaarge, and then as it drains over time it will spend its time around the 50% mark :)
I have been working in the home remodeling industry for 34 years my very first multi-tool was the corded Fein tool. since then I have used many different battery-powered multi-tool snd for me i have to choose the bosch for cutting speed accuracy and battery life.
I’ve got all makita tools but didn’t want to buy their multi-tool - not brushless, not star lock etc.. I’ve gone for the Bosch which I’m very happy with and which offers good value for the performance. Found the vibration data and noise data in the video useful. I run the Bosch on low speed when I can to minimise unnecessary noise and vibration and that helps.
If we’re doing more of these then please do job site table saws. Keep up the good work - found this series very useful.
I've got the Makita and it lasts a fair while on a 5aH, doesn't vibrate your hand making it good for trying to get straight cuts, it is pretty heavy though. Bosch Curve Tec blades are the best(IMO).
Perfect video again . ..looks like the DeWalt for me then thanks Rog ..in about 4 weeks I will need a table saw 👍. Off to Screwfix now . Have a great weekend.
Milwaukee 12v blew me away lads had the old version of the dewalt but it gave up on me time for a upgraded decided to take a stab at the Milwaukee completely on the dewalt platform but took a plunge on this absolute animal of a machine literally takes using a multitool to a new height no weight or size problems here and power is on point with anything I've used on any 18v platform here's to the milwaukee 👍
I must say I agree about Fein. used to supply these to my workforce when they first turned up and have kept with them ever since. Try as they might sometimes, my guys could rarely break them. The same applies to drills especially, you do get what you pay for in this instance. We must all cut our cloth according to our budget however and these days one can really get a good selection of tools for very little expense if only occasional use is needed.
I used to do the windows for the London Underground Jubilee line trains. The front windscreens are about 50mm thick in a recessed bonded aperture, it was about 2 to 3 hours hard work, I used a Fein corded oscillating tool to cut them out, no matter how hard I pushed it that tool did not give up, it often got so hot I couldn't pick it up unless I had thick leather gloves on but it just did not stop. Fein definitely the King.
Roger, I am glad you asked what tool next!! Let say that I found this Channel when looking for track saw reviews and you and Robin did the best one I could find and were fun as well. I subscribed. I would love a nice in depth review on routers/trim routers!! When to use each, which is best for what and what models are best in those uses.
Thanks mate and Happy New Year!!
Thanks Daniel. We will try and look at those tools in 2021. It is expensive to do these tests, particularly when we buy the tools, but being free of the manufacturers interference is worth it
@@SkillBuilder oh for sure, then you have to round up a bunch of work to justify having 14 routers! JK! No, I'm sure its pricey and hopefully the channel helps that cost.I like the onsite content but these reviews are useful too and probably easier to do these days with covid restrictions.
Laser levels please! Thank you Skill Builder it was a great series, and just bought my Milwaukee Multitool :)
Thanks for keeping DIY/occasional users in mind and pointing up the downsides of batteries.
Yes, it would be good to know what is the best "cheap" mains cable multi tool for us DIY/occasional users. I'm sure some are complete crap, but I don't really need a battery, high end version.
@@raytrevor1 I don't think multi-tools (and sanders) need a battery like the way miter, circ, and table saws do, but having a corded Dremel multi-tool and a cordless Dewalt, the cordless is so much easier to use.
Well that’s great we have the highly recommended Milwaukee 👌🏼. Great series chaps.
Love how you used the Panasonic brick to prop the Metabo up 😆🧱👍🏼
Good vid. Comprehensive, straight to the point, and covers all the considerations.
You guys are top shelf.! Simple as that. For anyone who is undecided and lucky enough to come across the Skill Builder perspective. You can literally just go off their opinion. Because when ya get the lowdown as Roger Bixby just showcased so well, if you don’t know already, honesty+experience+knowledge+common sense= ability to articulate perspectives we just saw At the least, you’ve got a great jump off point. That “opinion” becomes more fact. Appreciate ya from across the pond! Damn solid show. I would interject a lil about batteries, and the upkeep of lith-ion tech. But what you said isn’t wrong by any stretch so...👌🤣. Look forward to the next one!! BTW w/o even having seen the video on the counter intuitive restricting regs, or “Rogers Rant on Safety” yep I fully agree🤣😉😂...insanity at best what’s going on. Regards!
Thanks Roger for another great review. Always clear information and so professional and helpful.
Thanks for vid. Very nice to understand, you use a clear and unexcited pronunciation. Even it was not on purpose, nice to take care of non native speakers.
I currently have a corded Stanley fatMax, does everything I need but my current battery platform is the Bosch 18V. Thinking about getting the Bosch, as a gardener I end up doing all sorts of jobs and I don't always have access to power outlets in the field so to speak!
I have the Fein 12v multi tool and its about as powerful as the milwaukee, does everything I've ever needed it to!
I bought this Fein a few years ago to replace the corded one I had, as I needed to use it where I couldnt plug in etc. If I lost it tomorrow I`d buy another one the next day. Great review !
Fien were the originators of the multitool.. great piece of kit
Thanks for the video....
Just missing the Parkside... The one everyone has in the toolkit... But never admits to owning👍😂
Lol
Just bought the Milwaukee 18v Fuel - I am impressed generally with Milwaukee tools so I have a lot of batteries which obviously influenced my decision. The vibration is low compated to others I have used and so is the noise levels. One thing is the angle of reciprocation which is over 4 degrees and thus you can cut qucikly. Don't know how this compares with others but it was mentioned in another review on the Milwaukee I viewed. So for jobs requiring a lot of quick cuts this may be important.
Great work thanks, I like how your real world practical hands on experience comes through in your presentation.
first of all Roger,a happy and healthy newyear m8,could you make a video on how and for what all the different utilities are used,it blows my mind the different addons you have for this machine
You've a done crackin job on this series guys, well done. I've enjoyed all of the videos and I think you have been very fair and thorough in your opinions which are obviously correct as I have the Fein as my primary tool and the M12 Milwaukee as my secondary tool. 😂😘 I now hope that Mrs Bisby is enjoying her newly renovated bureau, repointed wall and freshly grouted shower!!!. Cheers.
I like what you said about fain. It has less vibration. As a carpenter I had Dewalt, most cases the battery it’s in the way and you cannot fill your fingers after 1min of use, too much vibration. Had a Bosch, after heavy use the head come out, screws snapped in the body, and bad vibrations.
I really enjoyed your vids in 2020.. Keep up the good work skillbuilders team.
Very well done! Comprehensive and fair. Great presentation of results. Looking forward to more Skill Builder in 2021.
Reviews on laser levels would be brilliant
You got your wish! There’s one on the channel now.
@@cabourn81 talking about holding true to your word lol
Video quality is realy good, you guys rock with these tool showdows!!
Really well presented and useful comparative review. Enjoyed the whole series.
We are replacing the subfloor in our home ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx0vyBwjtx9GGOuiqUVT2sRoYqmDoNT_RI and this tool has proved to be invaluable. So many different uses. Cutting away boards in tight places, cutting water pipes to name a few. We love Dewalt tools in general, but have really enjoyed the flexibility and durability of this multitool.
Hi Rodger i have been using Fein for 23 years have 2 of the old type corded not much goes wrong with them just sometimes have to tighten wire connections inside and replace brushes every 3 years but these tools run most days doing regrouting showers etc in the market now to buy a new one it will be a fein .
I've been waiting for this video for ages hehe happy new year
Great video! Fein's are incredible. I have 2 old style corded models. I don't care for the Starlock due to blade expense and will not buy. They need to bring back a model that takes universal blades and call it the "Fein Classic". Thanks again,
Thank you, this helps as I am upgrading my multi tool. I have facts to help me decide
For the festool and fein Oslo tool company sell a adapter so using the cheaper blades is no problems. Having arthritis in my hands the festool is great and a massive improvement over the dewalt I had.
Vert well explained for a novice like myself! and saved me a lot of time having to search for other reviews, excellent!
Glad it was helpful!
Loved this, thanks Dylan and Roger. Santa brought me the dewalt and it’s fantastic value and runs so well off 2amp batteries (2 included). Great review of these tools. Cordless angle grinders next maybe? 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Good suggestion
I have a couple of cordless angle grinders. The Brushless Makita is fantastic vs my Cheapo Parkside.. but my 35 year old Black and Decker Pro that I bought for £15 when Halfords closed thier Buchanan St store in Glasgow, is one of THE best buys i ever made.. its still going strong... while others have been and gone🤣👍
@@G-Cam1 there’s a tiler on Build with A&E (Chanel I’d recommend if you love skill builder) and he’s got the brushless makita and it looks useful. I’ve got quite a few de Walt kit now though so you start to get stuck
Happy New Year 🎉 thanks for all the videos you do, can we have laser level please xx
Great suggestion Janine! We are all over it and thanks for your support and for the questions.
Just about covered every aspect I was looking for when shopping for one of these. Brilliant video and big thanks. The best lesson for me is battery driven tools will spoil batteries if not used for long periods. Up a ladder to cut, size and join two mismatched plastic profiles for a joiner insert to fit separate gutter systems using mains cable not a good idea! Buy a new but rarely used battery multi-tool also not a good idea! Hire a battery multi-tool for the day probably the right idea! And for very occasional DIY housework, go for a mains driven multi-tool because it will still work 3 years later:) Any potential multi-tool purchaser should read this video. I'm assuming each battery machine comes in mains option. Will soon find out.
Yes Robin you can get nearly every one of those tools in a 240 volt version. I don't think Milwaukee has one.
@@SkillBuilder I'm aiming towards a 240v Fein (anti-vibration) or Bosch so that offers me either a Starlock Plus or (in the case Bosch a Starlock system but what is GOP). Question: If Starlock Plus isn't backwards compatible, why is it that a Starlock Plus cutting tool says it can be used in a Bosch GOP type machine? I recognise some machine can use adaptors but I will take your advice on this matter for a rounded opinion. The other thing I've noticed so far is that Fein colour-coded tools mention multi-material with carbide and tile cutting work but don't diamond cutters which are ofter recommended for cutting tiles. Example: A cut-away tile in-situ where a new sink might encrouch onto existing tile. This begs the question as to whether Fein or Starlock Plus tools are a limiting factor but excluding the oft used price per cutting tool as a for or against argument.
Great review, thanks for taking all the time and energy to make it :-)
Have the Hikoki Multitool, the tool less blade change is counterintuitive, but once you get used to its a quick way of dealing with the problem. Just keep you hands free of the latch after you've locked it, she'll getcha if you're not careful 😂. Big ups for the video!
I've got an older Einhell one, with variable speed control an without the quick change.
Einhell PXC Cordless Multifunctional Tool TC-MG 18 Li-Solo
But, I converted it, by using open blades an attachments, an using a posi screwbolt instead of a socket screw.
Takes seconds to change an replace blades.
Works for me.
Definitely Laser levels. thinking of getting one not sure where to start or or whether you can get away with a cheap one.
Yeah, good shout
Had a topcon rhl3 for about 14 years, never missed a beat, never calibrated but tested against other new levels every few years. Had to take the batteries out or they would run themselves dead. Sold it for 1/2 what I paid for it. Now have a lieca 640, box is too big and receiver is slow to pick and sometimes say too low for a few seconds then go over to too high, will be back to topcon when I can get this one shifted to someone. My old topcon was worth every penny
Agreed. I wanted one then heard you need to get them calibrated every so often.
Agreed, I've a budget one and so far can't fault it when compared to a mates premiumum model.
Whatever one you get, make sure its a green light one
Love my old mains fien but I recently purchased a set of metabo 18v tools and been a very happy camper with them the multi tool has seen a lot of work cutting bugle head screws out of concrete forms. I use my tools everyday as I am a bridge builder and farmer as well as doing Abit of wood working for fun.
I have quite a few multi tools Bosch DeWalt, yet I keep going back to the Ryobi R18MT-0 18V may not have fancy brushless motors but the swivel head is brilliant for getting angled access plus it has a simple lever to change blades, yes, I know most will say it DIY only. Each to their own. Happy New Year.
love your insights... a very well done appraisal from your experienced background. Cheers from British Columbia, Canada (I've subscribed)
Welcome! Hi Bruce, we are happy to have one more Canadian viewer
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Battered one of the DeWalt ones for 3 years.had multiple soakings outside in rain,dropped 3 lifts,drainage, drywall,absolutely unbreakable
Would love to see framing nailers! Compere battery vs gas vs pneumatic ones.
As a window glazer I use a multi tool every day and lean all my weight on these for hours. The only ones that last longer theme a month or two are the Fein and the Mikita. That being said I have not used the festool.
Man I used to do that job! Would run that stinking fein (corded, it's been 15 years ago now) til it was hot enough it was hard to hold onto. That gray rubber sealant was a nightmare but never did stop, much less, kill one of those feins!
Do use the multi tool to get putty out?
I've got the previous model Metabo, it has a chunkier locking pin which I prefer to that one. I'm happy with it though, good in gloves hands and nicely balanced, powerful too. No complaints here.
Happy New Year Roger 👍
I have the Fein on 240v for 14 years but as soon dewalt bring battery powered multi tool I've never used the main powered one (I have it from 6-7 years and still use it) do the job for sure
BUT .... from one and a half year have Festool as well it is from a different planet when I compare with Dewalt one cutting like crazy and all the attachments in the box staying in the same place every time make a huge difference
Thanks
M12 compatibles are fantastic and cheap as chips, plus 18v chargers have a slot for the 12v already. My M12V stuff is awesome.
whenever im doing stuff in work ( in a museum) ive started using my fathers m12 back up drill love the things 😂
I’m an electrician and I’m switching over to exclusively M12 for daily use. My company provides 18V tools whenever I need them, so I’m able to run lightweight tools every day.
Once again, a really helpful and informative video, thank you.
I bought the fein 240v about 20 years ago I'm a tiler so use it to cut bottoms of architrave and it works
Got all the Dewalt kit so might as well stick with it. I Haven’t bought one of these yet, I think you’ve persuaded me. Happy new year.
Good choice! We think you wil love it.
Got a 12 and 18v AEG both brilliant and have interchangeable heads so can be multitool jigsaw angle drill and even a hammer
My Fein one died recently after many many years of hard work. Going for the DeWalt next
I bought the corded DeWalt because of that stored battery issue…as an occasional user, a battery version won’t get enough exercise. However, do note….Do NOT store Li-ion batts on full charge, it will shorten their life cycles (re-charges)…store between half and two thirds charge. Ultimately, and now I have a Dewalt 18v drill, I am torn as to whether I should have just gone full cordless regime. However, when the batt system changes, you might be left with obsolete tools huh!
I am going for Dewalt thanks for such a comprehensive review.
Great review,which one is best for sanding..less vibration,quiet etc
I use a Ridgid Jobmax which has interchangeable heads like a jigsaw, a right angle drill, a sheet metal nibbler, a sander & an oscillator. It is surprisingly good. Uses the standard batteries, oscillator has a great tool change...best of all it is cheap!
Like you said Roger, for the pro it's more about what battery platform you're on. I'm on the DeWalt platform because I got a great deal on a drill at college and built my kit from there. I have been tempted by Milwaukee a few times but I don't want two sets of batteries and chargers and replacing everything in one hit is just too expensive. So I'm sticking with DeWalt, for now.
This. Exactly.
I love the DeWalt blade change system but I must admit that I have a couple of Multitools. I have the Original Fein with all the extra accessories (corded) and I had bought the Ridgid 12v battery operated tool and also some different heads like right angle drill and the impact head and last but not least the hammer head (for nails). Then realizing that I had many heads I bought a second unit, because at that time my daughter (12 or 13 yrs old) was helping me and always wanted to do what I was doing. Later on I bought the Ridgid corded unit because I had found the hammer unit was very useful in tight spaces like between joists and did not want to loose this useful tool if and when the Ridgid batteries go dead or taken of the market. Now being invested in many m12 and m18 tools, I am thinking of buying the m18 multitool because the arc of oscillation is greater therefore cutting faster.
Thank you. Really great video. It's really helping me make my choice on my next power tool. I'm also looking at a biscuit jointer - could you make a video on that, please?
All the Best Roger. I can see you’ve got a busy year a head so when do you plan on finishing the grout removal on that shower lol 😂
Haha, I hope that was a demolition job, that was a grout shower with some tile thrown in.
@@danielbuckner2167 faux mosaic tiles had those in the first house I bought. Horrid tiles.
@@tentonhammer5469 Yeah they can look nice in some artsy applications but grout has zero business in any shower regardless of how big the tiles are!
i clicked the link in the description but there's nothing on that page that lets me vote. I'd like for you to do showdowns of Jigsaws, Circular Saws and Mitresaws. I think these things are what DIYers use most after drills/impact drivers and it's something the pros always carry around so it will be helpful for a lot of people!
Hi AJ, just fixed that bug on iPads (hopefully), give it a go and let us know if you have any more problems. Thanks for letting us know.
Good comparison. Thumbs up. I‘d love to see jigsaws next.
That would be a good one yeah!!!!!
I decided to purchase a metabo battery kit 6 years ago thinking German quality, how wrong could I have been, the 18 volt mid range drill lasted 3 years, the multi tool is just about had it, the batteries lost charge capacity after 2 years, replaced with Dewalt kit a18 volt lithium ion brushless drill 1 year ago and it is miles better constructed and performs faultlessly.
I have a corded recipricating saw 5 years old and a corded tile saw, also a Bosch multi drill and double bevel mitre saw.
Dewalt and Bosch all the way for me, I do not abuse tools but make them work hard, just my personal thoughts.
Building trade for over 30 years.
Love the video and thank you.
It was very informative 👍.
Glad it was helpful!
Fein make superb powertools & have done so for decades... 😉
Great review; very valuable information especially starting at @10:58. For me, as a home hero, corded OIS system sounds about right. I think corded OIS will pack as much punch as a cordless star-lock and it will be more compact and affordable. Yes, I will have to deal with the cord when I needed it occasionally, but I don't have to keep thinking about rechargeable batteries gradually wearing out every few years. Good for the environment, and good for my valet ;-) Consistent raw power.
Good review of the machines and like you say, much depends on the battery platform you're already using. I'd be interested in a chop saw review next, but I can appreciate that they are not small items 😆
Excellent review Roger
Thanks for the review.. Personally I'd like to see a cordless chopsaw or circular saw review next but tbh I enjoy any head to head.. Thanks.
The best reviewer on youtube. Thanks again mate👍
Much appreciated
Unless I missed it, what you didn't point out is the Fein are multi voltage they will work with any Fein 12v 14v or 18v batteries.
I've owned a Cordless MultiMaster for a few years now & the battery life is phenomenal on the 18v 5ah batteries.
I've used the Dewalt, Bosch, Makita & Milwaukee on site & none come close to the Fein. Mates scoffed at the price I paid for the Fein but then when they use it they are like wow got to admit it's in a different league.
so is festool the only one that has a dust collection attachment you can buy?
Great review. I’ve had a cheap cordless multi tool for 3-4yrs., but it recently ceased working. Think it’s the battery but it would be as much to find out what broken and perhaps more than a replacement. If it’s the battery, we’ll the brand isn’t available any more, so while it’s been good, it’s also time for a new tool. Now I’ve already got some DeWalt cordless tools and had been wondering, should I take a risk and go with the same brand or try another. But this review is pointing me in the DeWalt direction and I feel it won’t now be a risky shot in the dark. Thank you.
I thought that was the rigid.....
not a good sign but so far they been working awesome
Powerful beginning of the year!)
All downhill from here on.
Dobre!)
Next showdown? You mentioned lasers, chop saws. I'm thinking something a bit more glam, something for the motorheads. What do you think about comparison of white spirit brands? Tesco vs. Lidl vs. No Nonsense. I mean that would have me on the edge of my seat. (Seriously though, really enjoyed this video. I still use the old single speed Dewalt. Upgraded my impact driver to the three-speed one and really makes a difference, I wonder if it's worth upgrading the multitool... I do use it a *lot*)
worth it. variable speed trigger
@@wittlebean1259 My cordless dewalt multitool already has variable speed trigger, does that mean I have the upgraded one already?
Erm by your numbers the Bosch is the best value. I had the brushless dewalt with out the speed selection switch liked the blade change, found it not too loud but hated the trigger for detail sanding so sold it, looked at the Makita as I have the battery platform as well but the blade change sucks so went with Bosch ticked all the boxes, find myself going for the Bosch grinder rather than the dewalt 54v because of the switch or the Makita grinder because the Bosch runs harder with better longer lasting batteries but then I use my Makita dtd170 impact driver every day and won’t use anything else. Then I find myself looking at the Milwaukee m12 stuff for working on cars and stop myself, it’s a sickness boys,best
Excellent battery vs. corded advice.
Great review. No bullshit, just clear reasons for choice. I have the Dewalt, just because all my power tools are Dewalt, so I have loads of batteries. The 12v Milwaukee looks really compact and lightweight though.