Yes! It drives me nuts when people talk about the "Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge" as if it was meant as a genuine "beauty hack." As someone that was a teenager in my freshman/sophmore year of high school when this challenge was big, it was about making fun of Kylie, not mimicking her.
not for eveyone they sold things that basically did the same thing so girls would take selfies with theyre lips bigger . i personally would do it to make my lips bigger for pictures since i wanted filler but was too poor to get them then when i was like 18
@@Princessmimiii I was referring to the extreme iterations of it that largely made up the online "Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge." The media was acting like everyone participating in the trend and uploading the extreme results were victims of the beauty standard, when really a lot of them were just victims of a stupid online trend more akin to the cinnamon challenge.
@@bad_bau true like i didnt know people were doing it to make theyre lip super big as a joke i only did it for a little so they got bigger but it didnt hurt i guess probably bc i didnt do it for long just enough to swell them up abit
I literally had to explain to my friend this week that an influencer who eats a very spicy pepper and then rubs it into her lips until they swell to get big lips is doing something very dangerous and no one should be copying her beauty tips or any advice that could impact their health ever.
@@TattooedLuna Apparently a woman in her 40s trying to be a beauty influencer, the friend I was warning about this is a woman in her 50s and, I'm in my 20s. She isn't online much so I have no idea how she even got that in her recommended videos. I won't share who because I don't want this influencer to get more attention but it's sad it's affecting even older generations of women who should know better but haven't been exposed to any of this before.
Hey there, I'm a nurse practitioner. Just want to say that yes, this lip cupping with a shot glass can cause permanent facial paralysis. The bucchal branch of the facial nerve circles the lips. If the glass gets sucked in and damages this nerve, the damage can be permanent, leading to numbness and paralysis
My daughter, now 24, did this stupid “challenge” and walked around with a perfect circle bruise all the way around her mouth….never did it again though. It is still incredibly unbelievable to me that kids are doing these things that clearly aren’t good for you
I would be so incredibly anxious as a parent because no matter how smart you think your kid is and how responsible they are, you can never be sure that they won’t do the most godawfully stupid shit because they literally don’t have the understanding of consequences that more experienced adults do.
@@lenaboyer6981 Yeah she didn’t think that one through at all! She was maybe 15, so she was old enough to know it’s stupid and potentially dangerous. I’m so glad she’s grown now and has a very good head on her shoulders. My son on the other hand 🤦🏼♀️ and he’s the oldest by 7 years! I’m convinced my kids are the reason I have anxiety over the littlest things
@@lovelymill okay but some of these “kids” are well into their teens and I would hope, know better or at least think, “this might not be such a good idea”. I’m so glad mine are grown and I’m no longer responsible for the stupid shit they might do
ahah "she's literally me" did that thing when i was about 14(?) intended ironically and out of curiosity, not on camera, using a plastic cap from my face wash. it didn't make my lips big but it had stuck to my face because it was flexible so the suction was strong even when i stopped sucking air in. i managed to rip it off my mouth and ended up with an instant grey bruise around my mouth looking like Homer Simpson. couldn't attend school(to avoid bullying) for two weeks till it disolved.
It’s upsetting that a child would have to deal with all that. Like not just getting the filler done at that time, but being constantly asked about her appearance by the media. I just can’t help but think about if it was traumatizing as a child to be given this much attention, being on the show, and such things.
@Cassandra-xn3un she should sue who, and for what? You're clearly American. You don't understand that you have to have a real, actual, factual, lawful basis to sue. Otherwise , you're wasting thr court's time and everyone else's. That's so stupid and such a self centered take. Grow up.
Yes, child celebrities usually have trauma from the fame and all it comes with. If they don't it's a pretty rare case and they probably had really good and protective adults around them who actually had the child's best interest at heart.
I 100% saw a video at the time of a girl doing it and her lip literally split open (aka exploded) and blood literally came pouring out into the shot glass and her lip was literally busted way open. It was graphic and sick as heck.
Permanent nerve damage from messing with the lip and jaw area is 100% possible. Getting that from a lip challenge is unlikely but possible - and nerve damage is often permanent. I has surgery to correct an overbite over a decade ago and my nerves were stretched as a result of the procedure. My bottom lip is still partially numb from it today.
I'll be getting a similar surgery too. Heard of numbness as a side effect but it's a pretty rare one. I did get a little nervous when I heard about it though, does the numbness still bother you?
@grapeyard1778 oops, forgot to reply. Specifically I have numbness on my lower lip and jaw. The numbness on my jaw is pretty minor - I've lost about 30% of my sensation there. Not a big deal. The lips are worse. The left side is worse than the right. It's not 100% numb - I can feel it if I touch it - but I have lost about 70% of sensation. Overall, it's not a big deal. I just need to make sure I don't accidentally leave food there during and after eating, as I can't always feel if I have food on my face 🙃. A napkin fixes that issue.
@@Curiefeldso strange, I had djs to correct an underbite nearly 10 years ago and the worst of my numbness is in the same place. Completely with you on leaving food there and not feeling it 😅
Ikr? I’m 35 but I feel like teens/kids just don’t pay attention to shit these days . I donno, I feel like I’ve just been a very observant person my whole life , very into fashion, and you are absolutely right . I’m totally understanding the it you don’t learn history, history will repeat itself phrase now
@@msk-qp6fnour attention spans have not gotten shorter it's just become easier to satisfy our want for entertainment, this idea that attention spans are getting shorter is a complete myth
I got a hematoma to my leg when I fell down stairs at work. It happened years ago and I still have a bump there. Imagine having those kind of bumps in your lips. :/
I remember when I first heard about this. I was in junior high and I remember panicking if I got my lip stuck in a poweraid bottle while I was drinking it. That challenge horrified me.
I find it so harmful that Kylie lied for so long about her lips. If you want to get surgeries, whatever thats on you, but when you have so many people (unfortunately) looking up to you, you should be transparent on the work you've had done.. especially if your using your filled lips to sell your makeup.
This serious is honestly what made me follow you. I love how you tell a story and how every time I click on your video it’s okay for me not to be perfect
The fact my favorite twins are tag teaming on the Jenner/ Kardashian, I'm loving and living for it 😁. The Kardashian/Jenner were never my cup of tea and they are just cash grabbers to me, always have. Have a wonderful day ☺️ 💕.
I literally gasped at the title and clicked right away , this cannot return this soon . I remember being at the hospital for a broken foot watching the aftermath of this on the news and I felt so out of the loop I was so appalled
Ngl 2014/2015 kylie was so pretty her large rounder eyes are amazing, her lips look in purportion whether that be filler or makeup. I feel that she was made to lie about it, then saw how popular it was and made her brand based on that lie, clever but really sad. Also i cannot believe her family allowed her to date tyga that young so gross I do have some pity as she clearly has low self esteem, dated toxic men, has an abusive family and it shows. She looks 10-20 years older than she is. I forget she is only a few years older than me. But i pity the thousands of people that family has harmed by lying to them to become rich
I forget shes younger than me! I agree on all the points you made. Growing up the way she did, I also feel her personality has faded or been repressed or something. Children shouldn't be on reality tv like that.
I also agree. One point that definitely should not be forgotten is how she suffered and perhaps still suffers from body dismorphia. I mean she's always been so self-conscious about her lips it's no wonder she tried so hard to create the face and lips she believes would be more beautiful. It's a very similar situation with her sister Khloé who was always bullied even by her own sisters for being the biggest one and now that she's visibly healthy and gourgeous, yet she photoshops all her photos to death
The whole situation with that family is messed up. Imagine growing up under that kind of pressure! Being on reality tv starting at 10 years old?? Crazy.
I have a teen vogue magazine with Kylie and Kendall on the cover (one in a pink dress and the other in a line green one)- that was my first time ever hearing of them and I thought Kylie was sooooo pretty. She was one of my first celebrity girl crushes lol so much nostalgia
The bigger, even more toxic trend is how much more we attach our own identity to how attractive other people think we are (aka "beauty standards") Our definition of beauty should be that of looking healthy, happy and taken care of; not to look like some partucular overly sexualized real life plastic barbie dolls.
I recently got into a car accident and ate the steering wheel..I bit through my lip in several places and my teeth went all the way through in one spot. It healed super quick with stitches but I now have the collagen and scar tissue making it impossible to smile the way I normally have for 33 years! But at least I know what I'd look like with fillers... And honestly sold haha
The facial paralysis due to the challenge could be entirely plausible. There are major nerves that run just above and below your lips the mandible nerve and the buccal nerve, I believe. I'm not sure how they would become damaged by it, but I could see why it would be brought up as a concern!
I remember receiving a mains powered lip sucker kit from a subscription beauty box. I never used it but I saw alot of customers saying how shocked they were to receive it and how it bruised their lips badly.
I did this before this challenge was a thing. I was sucking my lip into a milk bottle because I found it amusing, guess what happened. Looked like I had a weird little purplish blue mustache the rest of the school day because I bruised my lip. I was in middle school at the time and the Kylie lip challenge started when after I left high school. Everytime I saw it all I could think about was all the kids who gave me such hell for doing that years prior probably messing up their own faces for this stupid challenge even though I doubted they'd do it. I wanted to smack my head on a table everytime I saw clips of it online because I just knew people were going to mess up their lips.
I used to do this challenge before it was one as a kid just because I liked the way it felt. I cannot describe the feeling of seeing how wrong it could’ve gone when it became a challenge.
I love when you mention your brother Robert and his channel. You guys are BOTH my favorites and between your three channels there is always something I want to watch, for every mood and occasion. Documentary-style information like this to tutorials and reviews to reactions and hauls to crafts and cooking. Thank you for all the content 🩷🩷🩷!
I'm a new subscriber to your channel, and also to your brother's too. I have to say your videos are so refreshing to watch and I do giggle. It's the way you present. You're very good, informative and, without this seeming cringy, you come across as very authentic, which I'm sure you are. So refreshing. Keep up the great work James.
i feel like the lip thing being a thing again makes me grateful that im unbothered enough to not know about any of this until today... shows how much people just never learned from the past or just never learned about (cuz they werent old enough)
I love the tie-up between James and Robert! Content linked between you guys! I love you guys together and separately, but this is just awesome. Hope more of this kind of content are coming!
We have got to stop criticizing/bullying people for having thinner lips or for not looking a certain way in general. I remember growing up, there were people being cruel and mocking others for having thinner lips. It’s fucked.
Hi James! Love these non-skincare focused videos as much as your other ones ❤ Small request: do you think you could very subtly put the names of the products that you use on the screen since you don't name them?
i did the cup thing as a kid, it was just a 'look ma no hands' thing to me (i already have plump lips from just genetics anyway) and my mother mother promptly told me to never do it because "what if the cup breaks and you hurt yourself"
I did this in like 2013 with a water bottle one night, before it was a thing just because I liked the sensation of a fat lip. I thought it was funny. I didn't really think anything of it until after a bit of messing around I had a bruise above and below my lips. I was so embarrassed and it lasted for a few days, I had to cover it with concealer. I was only like 15 but I haven't done it since because I'm traumatised by the bruise. I work in a nursery and you randomly get 2-3 years old creating vacuums on their lips all the time with cups just because it's a funny thing to do. I'm constantly removing the cups from their faces because I'm terrified about what marks they're gonna leave on their faces, but some trends just don't die no matter the age.
I mean everyone can do them and i see it as no different than body mods but lip filler is often dangerous and i personally think just overlining your natual lips or contouring them is way better, at least until your 21. I dont think people my age (19) or younger should get them, hell your brain and body is still somewhat developing until ur 25 ish. Im glad ur talking about this trend, i remember doing it with my friends at sleepovers in middle school but taking it off early so my lips didnt get too crazy, we were all too scared to do it too long LOL. thank goodness we didnt too it too long
I did this in 1991 at age 8 with a juice bottle, just because I thought it was funny. What wasn't funny was that this happened on vacation, so in all the photos from the trip, I tragically have a purple suction bruise mustache. Fwiw, enough time has passed that it has circled back to being funny again, but in the moment, I was mortified. I'm LITERALLY smdh that this has been an actual trend.
I remember wanting the chocolaty lip kits so badly, but they were never in stock nor were they affordable for me then. That trend destroyed many people's appearances for a while, and created infections in others. Not ok.
honestly if people are STILL stupid enough to try this AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, with all the photo/video proof of the disastrous effects… they deserve what they get 🤷🏻♀️
This trend happen when I was in 5th grade some girl in a grade under me did this challenge until her lips were blue and bruised, it wasnt just teens and adults it was kids
OMG. Every time I see someone with a shot glass or one of those lip plumper things on thier mouth I get so nervous. Lol. I want to shout at them "you're going to damage your lips - It's not worth it!" 😨
I legit prayed to God that my daughter would come out looking like her Dad. I was gifted with sharp features and little lips. Awkward nose. But, I am confident and comfortable in my skin. Took me years to get this way. Im proud!!! My daughter, I did not want her to have my struggles. Thankfully, someone heard… Perfect lips/pout. Perfect little doll face. She’s gorgeous and fits the standards of “beauty” for this generation. I’m doing everything to boost her confidence now, and praising her for her brain and talents… just praying she doesn’t ever feel the need to resort to stupid crap like this. Cause; wtf 😢😭
This is one reason why these influencers' lies about having cosmetic procedures is so wrong. Kylie clearly had work done (filler or whatever) and then inspires people to do stupid things like this, which can really hurt them when the only way to get the look is with the cosmetic procedures she claims not to have had done. We don't care if they get fillers or lifts - you do you. Just be honest about it!
I use to do it with juice bottles for fun as a kid (not for the challenge, and not for more than a couple of seconds because it would start to get painful). It was just something amusing. I've never done it to the point of bruising or even noticeable swelling, and I'm horrified there were people out there who did
@@raerohan4241same here. But even as a kid when this became a trend I didn't do it (even tho I did it before for fun like you) because I knew this was too harmful and dumb
I wish it were that simple. People treat those who are conventionally beautiful much better. I'm ugly and people treat me like shit for no reason other than my face. I've seen people get promoted when they were horrible at their jobs, simply because they had a pretty face. If I had money, I would definitely get as much plastic surgery as possible, simply because I'm tired of being treated poorly because of my looks instead of my actions/behaviour.
@@Olia-ch-kaplastic surgery is a slippery slope. it can go from “oh, just this one thing will improve my face” to “oh, this is the last one, then i SWEAR i’ll be happy” real quickly. lots of people have thin lips and are still considered conventionally attractive. but being conventionally attractive isn’t everything. the size of your lips isn’t nearly as important as the size of your heart..
@@chkingvictim Rich people say money doesn’t matter. Skinny people say weight doesn’t matter. Pretty people say looks don’t matter. It doesn’t matter to them because they don’t have to think about it. To people who don’t have those “luxuries” well, they get treated vastly different in society which is a constant reminder of what they don’t have… so yes, it does matter. No one cares about the size of your heart if you're not beautiful.
1:35 ill never understand these style of tops. I found a couple of really cute tops yesterday and i never go colthes shopping or try stuff on so i was excited to see the material and color of the tanks. They weren't this extreme in the chest area but weird enough that i couldnt possibly be comfortable wearing them in public.
I got bored once and did the kylie lip challenge with a juice glass that shifted down to my chin and I just left it there for like an hour. It was a few days before I got my driver’s license and I couldn’t cover the bruise well enough with my makeup so if you look closely in the picture you can see a faint purple ring on my chin 😂
Man, I remember when Kandee Johnson talked about this YEARS ago before Kylie even thought of it. I did it but she never told people to go nuts and I did notice a difference but seeing what can happen, not worth the risk
Just an FYI, Kylie sold the majority stake to Coty later on, she didn't partner with them when she launched, sorry to correct you 💜. I love that Curel stuff!
Seed beauty who also own Colourpop were first right? Hence why the lip kits were the same formula for a long while. Then the rebrand was due to the coty sale and new formulas and hidden by the ‘clean beauty’ claim!
The crazy thing is, we know what the Kylie Jenner challenge is?? As a younger zoomer, I remember the Kylie lip challenge, as do most people my age that I've talked to. We SHOULD know better, but apparently we don't.
My friends and I were doing the shot glass lips thing in the ‘90s for laughs. I don’t like her, but I don’t think anyone can blame Kylie Jenner just because that generation’s version was named after her.
I remember doing that in the 80s. It wasn't a lip challenge or anything, i was just a dumb kid suctioning a cup on my mouth. My mom got so angry and i got in trouble
I used to do it for like a minute or two with a plastic little cap and always check it every like 20 seconds. But then I realized I just simply do not care enough to waste time looking silly. I don’t even bother with lip plumper glosses. I got what I got, I’m not worrying about it. If I want to get filler someday I will do that, but I really don’t feel like I want it bad enough to deal with the cost or potential dissatisfaction.
It's so bad. I have really thin lips. Like REALLY thin, they type that get made fun of. And every week I think, that's it, I'm going to go get lip fillers!!! But I'm poor so I end up talking myself out of it. But it's so hard to not internalize what is constantly seen as beautiful and feeling like shit when you don't have certain features. I had really hoped things would get better with time but due to tiktok, instagram, and social media in general, it really does seem to be getting so much worse.
@@Olia-ch-ka Remember many so called influencers have no real fashion sense or art degree. Really the kind of person I would not trust with my garderobe or makeup. Btw thin lips actually look very delicate which is why gradient lips are so popular in asia. I predict it will eventually come to the west with everyone consuming so much korean content.
@@chip2389 Koreans generally have very plump lips and their make up emphasizes large lips the majority of the time. I dont think you understand just how thin my lips are, or just how small and thin lips can be. There physically isnt room on my lips to do gradient make-up.
gosh, I remember when this was going on, i had a bizarre allergic reaction where my lips swelled to like 3x their size. the hospital kept trying to get me to admit to doing the challenge and i had to keep insisting it was an allergic reaction. happened a few more times so i carry an epipen!! im all good now it was just hilarious
When I was in my early teens, I heard a story about someone getting a near-fatal blood clot from a hickey. I've been terrified of suction/vacuum pressure anywhere on my body ever since (I'm getting better about it, I know a little window suction cup won't hurt me). I don't think I would have tried it anyways, but hooray for odd fears saving me from a risky trend.
These ”hacks” are just pure stipidity. And it’s disgusting that people like kylie and kim still tries to say they’re all natural and no cosmetic surgeries or any jobs done to their bodies. Like they are all natural and anyone can look like that with some ”effort”. And then we have young girls looking up to them, being insecure about their body and looks cause they don’t have lips like kylie and body like kim.😔
I had a non-cosmetic lip surgery done around the time when the Kylie lip challenge was big and my lips were extremely bruised and swollen for a few weeks after. Early highschool age, I went to school and people genuinely thought that I'd done the challenge and it 'went wrong' and wanted to know what I did to get my lips like that so they could replicate it and post it to facebook.... it definitely was a trend driven by shock value instead of beauty standards imo.
Anyone remember that episode of Ren & Stimpy where Ren loses all his teeth and his lips were just drooping and hanging off his face? That’s how I imagine all these Kylie lip challenge people looking now.
Big lips are fine, but I think people's natural lip is always going to look best on them, and I also don't understand why we find thin lips less attractive. I remember when I was a kid and saw the Tomb Raider movie I wished for Angelina's lips, but as I got older I saw that my face is more of a pixie vibe, big eyes and small nose and mouth, and that is beautiful too, just different, and it's fine lol. I don't have the facial structure to complement a big mouth so I would look weird with filler anyway, I think. Someone should make feeling beautiful just the way you are go viral 😂
Mint is the healthiest way to go, dont use too much just a little each day and your lips will be plumper. And if ya want you can use mint lip gloss as an alternative.
I sort of agree that it wasn't necessarily a beauty trend, except for the fact that several brands sold devices that you either create suction with to create larger lips OR electric devices that create suction for larger lips.
I know Kylie didn’t invent this, but it has been associated with her name and is therefore partially her responsibility as a celebrity and I bet, just like years ago, she does not address this or tell people to stop and just lets people continue to harm themselves.
It’s not her responsibility to control other’s actions they are old enough and dumb enough to make their own decisions and I don’t even like them all that much
@@skyelee8506 This whole trend started when she lied to her teenage fans about lip filler. Any decent person would be like "look guys, that's dumb don't do it" but we all know none of the Kardashians are decent 🙃
@@skyelee8506 Something that James kinda doesnt get into in this video its the fact that Kylie did say that she did that to get her lips so round and full, and thats why people started doing it. I remember watching her video on saying that that's all she did to her lips
This is my take on it as well. I remember when these lip kits came out and they were extremely limited in supply. It was a pain to get one of these things and on top of that they were also quite expensive considering the majority of her fanbase were quite young. Of course a lot of people weren't able to get them, either due to them selling out or due to price but they wanted Kylie's "natural" lips. Given the name of the challenge it was obvious they were going to stumble across it. No, Kylie didn't invent the challenge, but she DID lie to her fans and was happy to sell them that lie and profit from their insecurities. People didn't buy the lip kits because they were good, they bought them because they were either fans of hers and wanted to own a bit of her 'merch', or because they thought they could get lips like Kylie's. When people started doing the challenge she (or her team) should have immediately spoken up and she didn't.
Anyone who's interested can improve the appearance of their lips and surrounding skin by facial exercises. My lips were thin and kinda idk baggy looking, with lip lines. A year ago I started doing facial exercises and lip exercises. I've had two friends ask recently if I had filler. I have not. Facial muscles are just like any other muscle in the body and can be improved upon. I also stopped using straws. I remember years ago dentists telling people to use straws to keep drinks off your teeth. Don't. Straws are similar to sucking on a cigarette. If you really want to use a straw try the lip straw. I do use that with tea and soda. It definitely helps because you're not pursing your lips a hundred times a day.
The bandwagon effect is real. I know humanity is generally dumb, but humanity never ceases to amaze me with how foolish they can be. When I was younger I was concerned, now I am mostly just annoyed.
You, of course, not being a regular human being like the rest of us. As much as this crap is stupid, when people start to get complacent about their top-tier critical thinking skills they are *more* likely, not less, to succumb to all the weird psychological quirks and biases that all humans share. It's part of how smart people get recruited into cults.
Yes! It drives me nuts when people talk about the "Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge" as if it was meant as a genuine "beauty hack." As someone that was a teenager in my freshman/sophmore year of high school when this challenge was big, it was about making fun of Kylie, not mimicking her.
The only "Kylie lip challenge" video I ever liked was Jenna Marbles' because it was such blatant satire.
@@KiterpussMan, do I miss Jenna.
not for eveyone they sold things that basically did the same thing so girls would take selfies with theyre lips bigger . i personally would do it to make my lips bigger for pictures since i wanted filler but was too poor to get them then when i was like 18
@@Princessmimiii I was referring to the extreme iterations of it that largely made up the online "Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge." The media was acting like everyone participating in the trend and uploading the extreme results were victims of the beauty standard, when really a lot of them were just victims of a stupid online trend more akin to the cinnamon challenge.
@@bad_bau true like i didnt know people were doing it to make theyre lip super big as a joke i only did it for a little so they got bigger but it didnt hurt i guess probably bc i didnt do it for long just enough to swell them up abit
I literally had to explain to my friend this week that an influencer who eats a very spicy pepper and then rubs it into her lips until they swell to get big lips is doing something very dangerous and no one should be copying her beauty tips or any advice that could impact their health ever.
Omg no way! Who does that, so stupid!
I hope they have an epi pen handy! Yikes!
@@TattooedLuna Apparently a woman in her 40s trying to be a beauty influencer, the friend I was warning about this is a woman in her 50s and, I'm in my 20s. She isn't online much so I have no idea how she even got that in her recommended videos. I won't share who because I don't want this influencer to get more attention but it's sad it's affecting even older generations of women who should know better but haven't been exposed to any of this before.
It’s concerning that your friend had to be told that 💀
I literally got a burn on my face from a hot sauce accident , lip skin is sooo sensitive, why would she do thissssss 😢
Hey there, I'm a nurse practitioner. Just want to say that yes, this lip cupping with a shot glass can cause permanent facial paralysis. The bucchal branch of the facial nerve circles the lips. If the glass gets sucked in and damages this nerve, the damage can be permanent, leading to numbness and paralysis
My daughter, now 24, did this stupid “challenge” and walked around with a perfect circle bruise all the way around her mouth….never did it again though. It is still incredibly unbelievable to me that kids are doing these things that clearly aren’t good for you
well kids always do stupid things because they are kids
I would be so incredibly anxious as a parent because no matter how smart you think your kid is and how responsible they are, you can never be sure that they won’t do the most godawfully stupid shit because they literally don’t have the understanding of consequences that more experienced adults do.
@@lenaboyer6981 Yeah she didn’t think that one through at all! She was maybe 15, so she was old enough to know it’s stupid and potentially dangerous. I’m so glad she’s grown now and has a very good head on her shoulders. My son on the other hand 🤦🏼♀️ and he’s the oldest by 7 years! I’m convinced my kids are the reason I have anxiety over the littlest things
@@lovelymill okay but some of these “kids” are well into their teens and I would hope, know better or at least think, “this might not be such a good idea”. I’m so glad mine are grown and I’m no longer responsible for the stupid shit they might do
ahah "she's literally me" did that thing when i was about 14(?) intended ironically and out of curiosity, not on camera, using a plastic cap from my face wash. it didn't make my lips big but it had stuck to my face because it was flexible so the suction was strong even when i stopped sucking air in. i managed to rip it off my mouth and ended up with an instant grey bruise around my mouth looking like Homer Simpson. couldn't attend school(to avoid bullying) for two weeks till it disolved.
It’s upsetting that a child would have to deal with all that. Like not just getting the filler done at that time, but being constantly asked about her appearance by the media. I just can’t help but think about if it was traumatizing as a child to be given this much attention, being on the show, and such things.
It was. It always is. Kids aren't built for it. Hell, adults aren't built for it honestly
@Cassandra-xn3un she should sue who, and for what? You're clearly American. You don't understand that you have to have a real, actual, factual, lawful basis to sue. Otherwise , you're wasting thr court's time and everyone else's. That's so stupid and such a self centered take. Grow up.
Yes, child celebrities usually have trauma from the fame and all it comes with. If they don't it's a pretty rare case and they probably had really good and protective adults around them who actually had the child's best interest at heart.
Of course it was traumatising for her. Her appearance was constantly talked about. 🤮
I 100% saw a video at the time of a girl doing it and her lip literally split open (aka exploded) and blood literally came pouring out into the shot glass and her lip was literally busted way open. It was graphic and sick as heck.
💀💀💀💀😭😭😭
I was gonna mention that too. I remember seeing that video as well. I really REALLY wish I didn't remember. 🤢🤮💀
Can you tell who it was?
Oh my Lord....
Noooooooooo
Permanent nerve damage from messing with the lip and jaw area is 100% possible. Getting that from a lip challenge is unlikely but possible - and nerve damage is often permanent.
I has surgery to correct an overbite over a decade ago and my nerves were stretched as a result of the procedure. My bottom lip is still partially numb from it today.
I'll be getting a similar surgery too. Heard of numbness as a side effect but it's a pretty rare one. I did get a little nervous when I heard about it though, does the numbness still bother you?
@grapeyard1778 oops, forgot to reply. Specifically I have numbness on my lower lip and jaw.
The numbness on my jaw is pretty minor - I've lost about 30% of my sensation there. Not a big deal.
The lips are worse. The left side is worse than the right. It's not 100% numb - I can feel it if I touch it - but I have lost about 70% of sensation.
Overall, it's not a big deal. I just need to make sure I don't accidentally leave food there during and after eating, as I can't always feel if I have food on my face 🙃. A napkin fixes that issue.
@@Curiefeld thanks for answering!
@@Curiefeldso strange, I had djs to correct an underbite nearly 10 years ago and the worst of my numbness is in the same place. Completely with you on leaving food there and not feeling it 😅
……are idiotic trend cycles just getting shorter and shorter?
Definitely heading over to Robert’s!
Cuz our attention span is getting shorter
Ikr? I’m 35 but I feel like teens/kids just don’t pay attention to shit these days . I donno, I feel like I’ve just been a very observant person my whole life , very into fashion, and you are absolutely right . I’m totally understanding the it you don’t learn history, history will repeat itself phrase now
I feel like at this point trends are lucky if they stick around a full week lol
@@msk-qp6fnour attention spans have not gotten shorter it's just become easier to satisfy our want for entertainment, this idea that attention spans are getting shorter is a complete myth
@@justine4581 i know i was being sarcastic, but a lot of screen time does change how your brain functions apparently
Wow! I thought this video will be a throwback topic. I cannot believe this trend came back to life!!
I got a hematoma to my leg when I fell down stairs at work. It happened years ago and I still have a bump there. Imagine having those kind of bumps in your lips. :/
I remember when I first heard about this. I was in junior high and I remember panicking if I got my lip stuck in a poweraid bottle while I was drinking it. That challenge horrified me.
I find it so harmful that Kylie lied for so long about her lips. If you want to get surgeries, whatever thats on you, but when you have so many people (unfortunately) looking up to you, you should be transparent on the work you've had done.. especially if your using your filled lips to sell your makeup.
This serious is honestly what made me follow you. I love how you tell a story and how every time I click on your video it’s okay for me not to be perfect
These standards of beauty are made up by the people who buy and sell humans. You are actually perfect.
If you want a dark rabbit hole google yacht girls.
@@beatdizzy ❤️
The fact my favorite twins are tag teaming on the Jenner/ Kardashian, I'm loving and living for it 😁. The Kardashian/Jenner were never my cup of tea and they are just cash grabbers to me, always have. Have a wonderful day ☺️ 💕.
I literally gasped at the title and clicked right away , this cannot return this soon . I remember being at the hospital for a broken foot watching the aftermath of this on the news and I felt so out of the loop I was so appalled
Ngl 2014/2015 kylie was so pretty her large rounder eyes are amazing, her lips look in purportion whether that be filler or makeup. I feel that she was made to lie about it, then saw how popular it was and made her brand based on that lie, clever but really sad. Also i cannot believe her family allowed her to date tyga that young so gross I do have some pity as she clearly has low self esteem, dated toxic men, has an abusive family and it shows. She looks 10-20 years older than she is. I forget she is only a few years older than me. But i pity the thousands of people that family has harmed by lying to them to become rich
I forget shes younger than me! I agree on all the points you made. Growing up the way she did, I also feel her personality has faded or been repressed or something. Children shouldn't be on reality tv like that.
She no longer looks like herself. It's sad.
I also agree. One point that definitely should not be forgotten is how she suffered and perhaps still suffers from body dismorphia. I mean she's always been so self-conscious about her lips it's no wonder she tried so hard to create the face and lips she believes would be more beautiful.
It's a very similar situation with her sister Khloé who was always bullied even by her own sisters for being the biggest one and now that she's visibly healthy and gourgeous, yet she photoshops all her photos to death
The whole situation with that family is messed up. Imagine growing up under that kind of pressure! Being on reality tv starting at 10 years old?? Crazy.
I have a teen vogue magazine with Kylie and Kendall on the cover (one in a pink dress and the other in a line green one)- that was my first time ever hearing of them and I thought Kylie was sooooo pretty. She was one of my first celebrity girl crushes lol so much nostalgia
The bigger, even more toxic trend is how much more we attach our own identity to how attractive other people think we are (aka "beauty standards")
Our definition of beauty should be that of looking healthy, happy and taken care of; not to look like some partucular overly sexualized real life plastic barbie dolls.
exactly
Not everyone measures beauty the same, regardless of what you personally think it "should" be.
I recently got into a car accident and ate the steering wheel..I bit through my lip in several places and my teeth went all the way through in one spot. It healed super quick with stitches but I now have the collagen and scar tissue making it impossible to smile the way I normally have for 33 years! But at least I know what I'd look like with fillers...
And honestly sold haha
The facial paralysis due to the challenge could be entirely plausible. There are major nerves that run just above and below your lips the mandible nerve and the buccal nerve, I believe. I'm not sure how they would become damaged by it, but I could see why it would be brought up as a concern!
🖤 I love how I thought we left this behind
i legit assumed this was a recommended video from like three years ago 😭 😂
Came over from Robert’s video lol, kind of digging the synchronized topics 😂
I remember receiving a mains powered lip sucker kit from a subscription beauty box. I never used it but I saw alot of customers saying how shocked they were to receive it and how it bruised their lips badly.
Lip injections also bruise lips but temporary
I did this before this challenge was a thing. I was sucking my lip into a milk bottle because I found it amusing, guess what happened. Looked like I had a weird little purplish blue mustache the rest of the school day because I bruised my lip. I was in middle school at the time and the Kylie lip challenge started when after I left high school. Everytime I saw it all I could think about was all the kids who gave me such hell for doing that years prior probably messing up their own faces for this stupid challenge even though I doubted they'd do it. I wanted to smack my head on a table everytime I saw clips of it online because I just knew people were going to mess up their lips.
Idk why her and so many others deny getting any type of work done. Who cares? Do what you want!!!
Love your vids!!!!❤
I love you and Robert plugging each others videos. You guys are the cutest 🥺🥺💕
Love when beauty turns ugly! Ugg not the lip plumping trend again 🦆 lol
I had the same gut reaction 😂 "What's next, Tide Pods?"
@@purrgundy lol! Right?!
I used to do this challenge before it was one as a kid just because I liked the way it felt. I cannot describe the feeling of seeing how wrong it could’ve gone when it became a challenge.
When this challenge first came out around 2015 I made a PowerPoint presentation on the dangers of this trend for my public speaking class 😂
what was their reactions to it?? im curious!
I love when you mention your brother Robert and his channel. You guys are BOTH my favorites and between your three channels there is always something I want to watch, for every mood and occasion. Documentary-style information like this to tutorials and reviews to reactions and hauls to crafts and cooking. Thank you for all the content 🩷🩷🩷!
LOOOVE THIS SERIES! Keep going pleeease!
I remember watching the episode of Kardashians and it seems like she was only honest about it AFTER the Kylie lip trend and people had injuries.
I'm a new subscriber to your channel, and also to your brother's too. I have to say your videos are so refreshing to watch and I do giggle. It's the way you present. You're very good, informative and, without this seeming cringy, you come across as very authentic, which I'm sure you are. So refreshing. Keep up the great work James.
i feel like the lip thing being a thing again makes me grateful that im unbothered enough to not know about any of this until today... shows how much people just never learned from the past or just never learned about (cuz they werent old enough)
I love the tie-up between James and Robert! Content linked between you guys! I love you guys together and separately, but this is just awesome. Hope more of this kind of content are coming!
We have got to stop criticizing/bullying people for having thinner lips or for not looking a certain way in general. I remember growing up, there were people being cruel and mocking others for having thinner lips. It’s fucked.
just a tip: With ctrl+shift+T or cmd+shift+T on windows/Mac you can open your last closed tabs. This can save your life sometimes ^^
MY FAVE SERIES!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
educate me James
Hi James! Love these non-skincare focused videos as much as your other ones ❤ Small request: do you think you could very subtly put the names of the products that you use on the screen since you don't name them?
i did the cup thing as a kid, it was just a 'look ma no hands' thing to me (i already have plump lips from just genetics anyway) and my mother mother promptly told me to never do it because "what if the cup breaks and you hurt yourself"
I did this in like 2013 with a water bottle one night, before it was a thing just because I liked the sensation of a fat lip. I thought it was funny. I didn't really think anything of it until after a bit of messing around I had a bruise above and below my lips. I was so embarrassed and it lasted for a few days, I had to cover it with concealer. I was only like 15 but I haven't done it since because I'm traumatised by the bruise.
I work in a nursery and you randomly get 2-3 years old creating vacuums on their lips all the time with cups just because it's a funny thing to do. I'm constantly removing the cups from their faces because I'm terrified about what marks they're gonna leave on their faces, but some trends just don't die no matter the age.
I mean everyone can do them and i see it as no different than body mods but lip filler is often dangerous and i personally think just overlining your natual lips or contouring them is way better, at least until your 21. I dont think people my age (19) or younger should get them, hell your brain and body is still somewhat developing until ur 25 ish. Im glad ur talking about this trend, i remember doing it with my friends at sleepovers in middle school but taking it off early so my lips didnt get too crazy, we were all too scared to do it too long LOL. thank goodness we didnt too it too long
Yes! Let’s get Robert to the million!
Love the themed videos between you and Robert. Great idea! He can do the make up angle and send us over to you for the rest. 🙂
I hesitated watching this all day. It was excellent! Very entertaining and perfectly edited.
I did this in 1991 at age 8 with a juice bottle, just because I thought it was funny. What wasn't funny was that this happened on vacation, so in all the photos from the trip, I tragically have a purple suction bruise mustache. Fwiw, enough time has passed that it has circled back to being funny again, but in the moment, I was mortified. I'm LITERALLY smdh that this has been an actual trend.
I remember wanting the chocolaty lip kits so badly, but they were never in stock nor were they affordable for me then. That trend destroyed many people's appearances for a while, and created infections in others. Not ok.
honestly if people are STILL stupid enough to try this AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, with all the photo/video proof of the disastrous effects… they deserve what they get 🤷🏻♀️
This trend happen when I was in 5th grade some girl in a grade under me did this challenge until her lips were blue and bruised, it wasnt just teens and adults it was kids
OMG. Every time I see someone with a shot glass or one of those lip plumper things on thier mouth I get so nervous. Lol. I want to shout at them "you're going to damage your lips - It's not worth it!" 😨
love this iconic collab between you and @Robert xx
I legit prayed to God that my daughter would come out looking like her Dad. I was gifted with sharp features and little lips. Awkward nose. But, I am confident and comfortable in my skin. Took me years to get this way. Im proud!!!
My daughter, I did not want her to have my struggles. Thankfully, someone heard…
Perfect lips/pout. Perfect little doll face. She’s gorgeous and fits the standards of “beauty” for this generation.
I’m doing everything to boost her confidence now, and praising her for her brain and talents… just praying she doesn’t ever feel the need to resort to stupid crap like this. Cause; wtf 😢😭
This is one reason why these influencers' lies about having cosmetic procedures is so wrong. Kylie clearly had work done (filler or whatever) and then inspires people to do stupid things like this, which can really hurt them when the only way to get the look is with the cosmetic procedures she claims not to have had done. We don't care if they get fillers or lifts - you do you. Just be honest about it!
These videos help fill the illuminaughtii-shaped hole in my heart
God I'm so sick of the Kardashians 😑
I will never not hit like on one of these videos, simply because James' intro is something that we all need to hear.
Oh boy! I can't wrap my head around the appeal of this challenge. I can't imagine it feels good to suction your lips 👄
I use to do it with juice bottles for fun as a kid (not for the challenge, and not for more than a couple of seconds because it would start to get painful). It was just something amusing. I've never done it to the point of bruising or even noticeable swelling, and I'm horrified there were people out there who did
@@raerohan4241same here. But even as a kid when this became a trend I didn't do it (even tho I did it before for fun like you) because I knew this was too harmful and dumb
I miss when you used to talk us through your skincare as you did these videos!
Yay!!!! 🎉🎉🎉 Helllloooo James !!!! Here you are making my Wednesday brighten up !!! 😊😊😊😊
List of products please , that skin looks so lush 😍
We should all learn to embrace our own unique beauty. Life is too short to hate yourself over superficial things.
I wish it were that simple. People treat those who are conventionally beautiful much better. I'm ugly and people treat me like shit for no reason other than my face. I've seen people get promoted when they were horrible at their jobs, simply because they had a pretty face. If I had money, I would definitely get as much plastic surgery as possible, simply because I'm tired of being treated poorly because of my looks instead of my actions/behaviour.
@@Olia-ch-kaplastic surgery is a slippery slope. it can go from “oh, just this one thing will improve my face” to “oh, this is the last one, then i SWEAR i’ll be happy” real quickly. lots of people have thin lips and are still considered conventionally attractive. but being conventionally attractive isn’t everything. the size of your lips isn’t nearly as important as the size of your heart..
@@chkingvictim Rich people say money doesn’t matter. Skinny people say weight doesn’t matter. Pretty people say looks don’t matter. It doesn’t matter to them because they don’t have to think about it. To people who don’t have those “luxuries” well, they get treated vastly different in society which is a constant reminder of what they don’t have… so yes, it does matter. No one cares about the size of your heart if you're not beautiful.
Great piece, James - thank you!
STILL love just hearing you talk about whatever. But thankfully, it's all STILL things I'm interested in.
1:35 ill never understand these style of tops. I found a couple of really cute tops yesterday and i never go colthes shopping or try stuff on so i was excited to see the material and color of the tanks. They weren't this extreme in the chest area but weird enough that i couldnt possibly be comfortable wearing them in public.
Literally watched this entire video with my hand slapped over my mouth. My god, that's frightening!
I got bored once and did the kylie lip challenge with a juice glass that shifted down to my chin and I just left it there for like an hour. It was a few days before I got my driver’s license and I couldn’t cover the bruise well enough with my makeup so if you look closely in the picture you can see a faint purple ring on my chin 😂
Man, I remember when Kandee Johnson talked about this YEARS ago before Kylie even thought of it. I did it but she never told people to go nuts and I did notice a difference but seeing what can happen, not worth the risk
I love your voice
Yes I love his voice ❤
ctrl/cmd + shift + t will reopen tabs after you close them! very useful!!
Great video theme! Love the new background by the way.
Just an FYI, Kylie sold the majority stake to Coty later on, she didn't partner with them when she launched, sorry to correct you 💜. I love that Curel stuff!
Seed beauty who also own Colourpop were first right? Hence why the lip kits were the same formula for a long while. Then the rebrand was due to the coty sale and new formulas and hidden by the ‘clean beauty’ claim!
The crazy thing is, we know what the Kylie Jenner challenge is?? As a younger zoomer, I remember the Kylie lip challenge, as do most people my age that I've talked to. We SHOULD know better, but apparently we don't.
Another excellent video, James! I remember how viral this trend was 😬
I love this series!
Loved this upload you always cheers me up hon ❤❤❤❤
My friends and I were doing the shot glass lips thing in the ‘90s for laughs. I don’t like her, but I don’t think anyone can blame Kylie Jenner just because that generation’s version was named after her.
i was 15 when the kylie lip challenge blew up, im so glad i saw the warnings first and never did it myself
You're mistaken about the brand's founding company. Coty acquired Kylie Cosmetics in late 2019. I believe Seed beauty helped start the brand.
I used the Candylipz lip plumbing device 😢I had to get rid of it because I had terrible bruising. It lasted so long I thought it would be permanent
I remember doing that in the 80s. It wasn't a lip challenge or anything, i was just a dumb kid suctioning a cup on my mouth. My mom got so angry and i got in trouble
I used to do it for like a minute or two with a plastic little cap and always check it every like 20 seconds. But then I realized I just simply do not care enough to waste time looking silly. I don’t even bother with lip plumper glosses. I got what I got, I’m not worrying about it. If I want to get filler someday I will do that, but I really don’t feel like I want it bad enough to deal with the cost or potential dissatisfaction.
did the twins dip into a hat and pick...Kardash/Jenner topics! Love it gentleman xox
I did this when I was younger cause I thought I was harmless but I ended up causing my lips to deflate and left them sensitive to everything
Kind of wild we let people bully a 16 year old into getting lip filler
It's so bad. I have really thin lips. Like REALLY thin, they type that get made fun of. And every week I think, that's it, I'm going to go get lip fillers!!! But I'm poor so I end up talking myself out of it.
But it's so hard to not internalize what is constantly seen as beautiful and feeling like shit when you don't have certain features.
I had really hoped things would get better with time but due to tiktok, instagram, and social media in general, it really does seem to be getting so much worse.
@@Olia-ch-ka Remember many so called influencers have no real fashion sense or art degree. Really the kind of person I would not trust with my garderobe or makeup.
Btw thin lips actually look very delicate which is why gradient lips are so popular in asia. I predict it will eventually come to the west with everyone consuming so much korean content.
@@chip2389 Koreans generally have very plump lips and their make up emphasizes large lips the majority of the time.
I dont think you understand just how thin my lips are, or just how small and thin lips can be. There physically isnt room on my lips to do gradient make-up.
gosh, I remember when this was going on, i had a bizarre allergic reaction where my lips swelled to like 3x their size. the hospital kept trying to get me to admit to doing the challenge and i had to keep insisting it was an allergic reaction. happened a few more times so i carry an epipen!! im all good now it was just hilarious
She told girls who use a shot glass. Maybe that video was deleted. But I remember her saying she does that as well for her lips and anyone can do it
if you find it let me know becuase i couldnt find evidence anywhere!
When I was in my early teens, I heard a story about someone getting a near-fatal blood clot from a hickey. I've been terrified of suction/vacuum pressure anywhere on my body ever since (I'm getting better about it, I know a little window suction cup won't hurt me).
I don't think I would have tried it anyways, but hooray for odd fears saving me from a risky trend.
These ”hacks” are just pure stipidity. And it’s disgusting that people like kylie and kim still tries to say they’re all natural and no cosmetic surgeries or any jobs done to their bodies. Like they are all natural and anyone can look like that with some ”effort”. And then we have young girls looking up to them, being insecure about their body and looks cause they don’t have lips like kylie and body like kim.😔
I had a non-cosmetic lip surgery done around the time when the Kylie lip challenge was big and my lips were extremely bruised and swollen for a few weeks after. Early highschool age, I went to school and people genuinely thought that I'd done the challenge and it 'went wrong' and wanted to know what I did to get my lips like that so they could replicate it and post it to facebook.... it definitely was a trend driven by shock value instead of beauty standards imo.
Hello. Good Afternoon James 💜 Happy Wednesday 💜
Anyone remember that episode of Ren & Stimpy where Ren loses all his teeth and his lips were just drooping and hanging off his face? That’s how I imagine all these Kylie lip challenge people looking now.
Big lips are fine, but I think people's natural lip is always going to look best on them, and I also don't understand why we find thin lips less attractive. I remember when I was a kid and saw the Tomb Raider movie I wished for Angelina's lips, but as I got older I saw that my face is more of a pixie vibe, big eyes and small nose and mouth, and that is beautiful too, just different, and it's fine lol. I don't have the facial structure to complement a big mouth so I would look weird with filler anyway, I think. Someone should make feeling beautiful just the way you are go viral 😂
Mint is the healthiest way to go, dont use too much just a little each day and your lips will be plumper. And if ya want you can use mint lip gloss as an alternative.
I sort of agree that it wasn't necessarily a beauty trend, except for the fact that several brands sold devices that you either create suction with to create larger lips OR electric devices that create suction for larger lips.
You and Robert today 🙌🏻
I know Kylie didn’t invent this, but it has been associated with her name and is therefore partially her responsibility as a celebrity and I bet, just like years ago, she does not address this or tell people to stop and just lets people continue to harm themselves.
It’s not her responsibility to control other’s actions they are old enough and dumb enough to make their own decisions and I don’t even like them all that much
@@skyelee8506 This whole trend started when she lied to her teenage fans about lip filler. Any decent person would be like "look guys, that's dumb don't do it" but we all know none of the Kardashians are decent 🙃
@@skyelee8506 Something that James kinda doesnt get into in this video its the fact that Kylie did say that she did that to get her lips so round and full, and thats why people started doing it. I remember watching her video on saying that that's all she did to her lips
This is my take on it as well.
I remember when these lip kits came out and they were extremely limited in supply. It was a pain to get one of these things and on top of that they were also quite expensive considering the majority of her fanbase were quite young. Of course a lot of people weren't able to get them, either due to them selling out or due to price but they wanted Kylie's "natural" lips. Given the name of the challenge it was obvious they were going to stumble across it.
No, Kylie didn't invent the challenge, but she DID lie to her fans and was happy to sell them that lie and profit from their insecurities. People didn't buy the lip kits because they were good, they bought them because they were either fans of hers and wanted to own a bit of her 'merch', or because they thought they could get lips like Kylie's. When people started doing the challenge she (or her team) should have immediately spoken up and she didn't.
Hi James!❤❤❤
Anyone who's interested can improve the appearance of their lips and surrounding skin by facial exercises.
My lips were thin and kinda idk baggy looking, with lip lines.
A year ago I started doing facial exercises and lip exercises. I've had two friends ask recently if I had filler. I have not.
Facial muscles are just like any other muscle in the body and can be improved upon.
I also stopped using straws. I remember years ago dentists telling people to use straws to keep drinks off your teeth. Don't. Straws are similar to sucking on a cigarette.
If you really want to use a straw try the lip straw. I do use that with tea and soda. It definitely helps because you're not pursing your lips a hundred times a day.
The bandwagon effect is real. I know humanity is generally dumb, but humanity never ceases to amaze me with how foolish they can be. When I was younger I was concerned, now I am mostly just annoyed.
You, of course, not being a regular human being like the rest of us.
As much as this crap is stupid, when people start to get complacent about their top-tier critical thinking skills they are *more* likely, not less, to succumb to all the weird psychological quirks and biases that all humans share. It's part of how smart people get recruited into cults.
I didn't see the list of products you used- specifically interested in the compact. Am i looking in the wrong spot?🤔
I love you and your content ❤