Body Armor | Navy SEAL | Podcast
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2023
- In this video Jason and Hayden go into an in depth discussion about choosing and training with plate carriers.
At the end of the day it’s your choice but if you are in the market, I recommend HRT Tactical.
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The more the civilians train the better i feel. Ive trained co workers in the past in cqb. The only thing I recommend on their gear checklist is physical fitness. You are your gear in the fight. Not the other way around.
Physical fitness is a big one thanks for watching God bless.
As a former Cav Scout and current 913A, I recommend a slickster with ar500 for working out. It lives in the gym bag, is always in the truck and provides level 4A protection in case of active shooter. Keep your SAPI Banshee Shellback at home for the apocalypse. Keep your battle belt with your gym bag(med kit, spare mags) . Keep an IFAK 5 mags radio and camelbak on the shellback. Stick to common rounds and platforms. Glock19/17 or Ar15. Both have 22lr conversion kits available which allow you to train cheap and often. Train to fight. Consistency is key. "SCOUTS OUT"
Outstanding
Late at night while you are sleeping CAV Scouts come creeping all around lol
Jason & Hayden, love the real talk without fear of judgement. Putting yourself out there and speaking your mind. Much respect, cannot wait to see/hear more.
It’s great seeing family working together. You have great video content. Stay strong and train hard. Have a blessed day
God bless 🙌🏻.
Very informative/practical. For myself after trial and error on my first two Carriers I settled on the Agilite K19. With Bad Shoulders I can wear it all day at the Range with Zero issues. It was pricey.
Excellent discussion...You said a couple things that resonated with me. 1st, you look for companies that give back. I agree, this is an important aspect. 2nd, what you do/did in the military doesn't mean you are the only ones that can do it domestically (to the same effect). There are some bad ass shooters that have military experience, but that skill was honed outside of the military. Run and know, what you have, but like anything, armor is a tool and each tool has a different application. I prefer subdued armor, I am never looking for a fight. Armor is a force multiplier, but you don't want to invite force to be used against you. You want to live through the encounter. I will hide a long gun in a backpack and carry a pistol with armor/plates under something to be discreet. Wearing a carrier outside your clothing does open you up to an encounter, and you dont have the support of intel or a operations center to provide you intelligence on the battle field. Hell, you could be overwhelmed by a mob and you don't want to invite an encounter in most cases. Something you said that I have considered was the point of sitting outside you kids school and a cop being there. I would be very cautious with engaging a suspect when a cop is already engaging. You might get mistaken for a bad guy and taken out. It happens, sometimes too frequently.
As always very informative . Like the format no fancy studio stuff down to earth back yard format that a regular guys like me relate to just sitting around at the table with coffee talking shop stuff .
That’s what we were going for with this video thank you for the feedback and the support God bless.🙌🏻
Keep a weapons cleaning kit in your kit for not only cleaning and oiling but a rod to remove a stuck case.
Thanks for the video. As a civilian, I've thought about body armor but haven't pulled the trigger. I've always thought if the door gets kicked in, I'm fighting with whatever is on me or immediately at hand. You've given some good insight, thanks.
I'm rapidly approaching 60 and discovering what my body can do compared to what it used to do. I am also leaning more and more into my Christianity. You mentioned the amount of people that you would actually trust is very low. I've always felt the same way and thought that I was wrong for feeling that way. We are supposed to love everyone is something that I have and would struggle with. I wonder if you could share some insight how you handle managing people and keeping them at certain levels of trust/distance?
Thanks so much for your videos!
John, I am right there with you. Soon to be 65. I have BA but for stationary positions. I have steel plates and not ceramic, so it is very heavy. I will not be patrolling with BA. If I have to patrol it will be like FMT talked about, ammo, water and energy bars. Keep stocking Food, water , meds, ammo, tools, comms……. We do the best we can with what we have where we are. There will come a time where we can’t get anything, so what you have is all you will have. But at the end of the day Jesus is our hope no matter what happens.
Bro you're 60, even with a plate carrier you get whooped if a group of people kick your door in. Make your own group
Man after watching your video, I went out and got myself an HRT LBAC plate carrier. You are 100% right on making this recommendation. Definitely the best-fitting plate carrier I've had. I'm ditching my JPC 2.0 for this one. Thanks for the advice!
HRT tactical gear is top notch. Currently have both HRT and Agilite . Both are pretty great
Lessons learned, look for modularity. The ability to scale up or down depending on your mission set is invaluable.
Thanks for a really good video 👍🏻
Very helpful and informative video. I think I've found my new favorite channel. Newly subbed and excited to learn more of what this channel has to offer. Thank you Gentlemen. 💐🙏🏆💯❤️🔥
Thanks for sharing all the great info! I always appreciate your input and experiences.
Also, I probably speak for many people when I say that I’d LOVE to see that tannerite video. Curious to see what you would use to pop that boom can at 1000.
I love these longer videos💪💪💪
I just came across your video. Great info. I’m prior service but I’ve been a civilian for quite a while. I was in before the GWOT so the most we ever had was LBE over a flak vest lol. I just bought the HRT RAC a couple of months ago on the recommendation of John Lovell from Warrior Poet Society. I haven’t been able to go out and train with it as I’m still trying to figure out what I want to do with it and how I want to set it up. I like the idea of being able to swap the placards to a chest rig. Thanks for all the info and everything you’re doing.
Awesome information will be checking out HRT TACTICAL
They’re products have been great so far thanks for watching God bless🙌🏻.
Great vid and chat. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and insight. A few quick questions. What are “crashes”? Flash bangs? What about “IWA”? Finally, it seems the LBAC is more “robust” than the RAC. Is that how you’d define the major difference? You mention 1000D cordura, but it seems both the HRT rigs are 500? Again, many thanks for sharing your expertise to make things simpler for us civvies. God speed and God bless.
Been away from you for a but and I have to say as one that couldn't serve, my heart kept me out, I do what I can to train, some live fire, some dry fire.
I share the sentiment that I will happily serve time in prison for my family and friends.
I love the discussion you two had BEFORE hearing into the review of the plate carrier (I am writing this before watching it) but u would love to see more discussions like this. It was a great conversation.
Thank you for what you do.
You guys are awesome
Thank you God bless🙌🏻.
Good video, thanks
The crye AVS is made of 500D cordura and stands among the best plate carriers on the market. The difference between 1000d and 500d is about a 20 percent decrease in durability with an 80 percent increase in weight. So it's all a compromise. Just depends on what environments you plan to run your PC in. If I were in a maritime environment with a lot of salt water, jagged edged metals and whatnot to deal with, 1000d would potentially make more sense. A lot of people will be totally fine with 500D.
Appreciate you guys and gals if their are any for all you do for us regular citizens, i value your videos, they have helped me alot, especially since you are left handed also, dont like to use the term lefty anymore, people might take it the wrong way 😂😅
I have used kiwi mag pouches and they are very similar to the hrt. Honestly I recommend the scorpion mag pouches. They will wear out a little faster, but they can run 7.62 or 5.56 so If you aren't dedicated to a system and may switch platforms, then scorpion is the way to go
great video. thank you!! any chance of covering concealable armor?
Couldn’t agree more people need to not chase the market. I have stayed with my AVS for years even though I have been issued numerous other carriers. I have learned a lot of ways to modify it to fit me specifically but I wouldn’t replace it.
Shoot move communication my war gear is 9 mags on the vest 1 in the gun. Trauma kit and GMRS hand held.
Rocking A Agilite Carrier...Hesco ceramic plates 🦅
Glad I found this channel
Civilians that are training with kit or (Larping) are the majority of people that will ultimately defend the homeland. The civilians are the First Responders While the service men and women are deployed overseas are the QRF.
The more civilians that train marksmanship and drills, the MORE skilled they will be if or when they join the Military. Contrary to popular belief. Joining as infantry doesn't guarantee they'll be expert shooters. Training as a civilian beforehand can help them gain marksmanship proficiency before Boot camp. Although, i don't know anyone who is patriotic to America willing to join the US military under a Commander and Thief who actively tramples on the US constitution and its people.
You really into red dawn fantasy huh
Upgrades mean retraining muscle memory.
Answering the Quality question is the hardest part for online ordering etc.
Great video. Thank you
Thank you for the support 🙌🏻.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I appreciate you saying, "Get off your ass and protect yourself and your family"! Your safety is yours and yours alone. Also what are you calling a "crash" been out of the military for over 20 years now.
Thank y'all. If one watches interviews with civilian defenders of Kibbutzim in Israel, which is what fighting in the US would largely mirror, the successful defenders use cover and concealment and some had plate carriers but very light gear as they defended their homes.
Comfortabilaty is not a word….. the word is just comfort
We as Marines did hike though the mtns and hills in full kit with ruck. Not just flat land, it sucked!
I’ve been using the same plate carrier since 2005.
I keep an inexpensive carrier for practice, sweat ruins gear and this helps with the cleaning and drying time.
You see the difference in cost in the fit and durability.
Is your practice carrier set up exactly like your go to carrier? If it's not, you aren't testing your gear to see what actually works.
Nice🙌🏻.
Love the setup, will you run a full length knife/bayonet on your battle belt or just the smaller ready access knife?
Some call it larping. I call it training. To each his own.
To each their own indeed God bless 🙌🏻.
God bless!
Just gotta ignore a certain M.O.H. recipient really. Him and other screamin leftists have never made much sense, just spewing vitriol and arrogance.
As far as I know, no US Marines were assigned to storm the beaches of Normandy. There were some on Navy ships loading guns, but they didn’t land on the beaches.
Cool content! From Chile 🇨🇱
Regarding your discussion in the first part of the video. Years ago I listened to a Jewish rabbinical student who had been taught that in Isaiah "Egypt=USA" ... Then I read Isaiah 19:2: “I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian-
brother will fight against brother,
neighbor against neighbor,
city against city,
kingdom against kingdom. NIV (last line could also be translated as "state against state")
Truly appreciate your content and focus on faith. I know you talked about the importance of 1000D cordura, however in looking at the HRT carriers, even their LBAC at 500$ is 500D. Curious how you feel this will hold up and to see what your experience is like with the carrier over time. Love the versatility of that carrier though so I hope it’s a good one for you.
It has held up great. No complaints so far. I still prefer 1000D obviously but it works for what I do now.
i dig having your son on with you, hes about my size so his recommendations wont go overlooked. thanks gents
Great carrier run that on the SWAT team currently
you guys read my mind, have been researching carriers and plates as I'm ready to purchase. Can you do a video on plates?
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@@frogmantactical dude that's awesome. thx. I have duritium in the shopping cart directly from Shot Stop. I wont pull that trigger yet and look at g9ammo
@frogmantactical Please disregard my last question on plate recommendations…🤣
Indeed 👍
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Great talk! Yes,tannerite please!!!
Thanks for watching stay tuned God bless🙌🏻.
What's a crash...don't guess I've ever heard that slang before
I have a messed up shoulder and really want to find a front close vest.
How do u feel about standard cumberbuns vs elastic cumberbuns?
Want to ask if the UARM FAS full body armor is worth it, and could you attach it to other plate carriers? Is there any other company that makes polyethylene full armor?
I’ll just go to a surplus and pick up an old flack from cif
If you put that dummy out and give it the tannerite treatment, for goodness sake, get that Crye Precision gear off it and put a pretty blue helmet on it. Just being silly, but it sounds fun.
What body type fits with HRT’s sizing? Do all their carriers fit the same?
There were no marines at Normandy
GREAT informative video my brothers!!! What Camelback works best with that HRT set up?
Hows the trex rig it looks slim and price is cheaper than a lot ?
Hey Jason. I have two AR500 Testudo Gen II plate carriers and they are on par with most everything out there other than Crye JPCs at half the price. For Sheep Dogs like myself, they are durable, have good breathability and secure 10x12 plates very well. Good ventilation and they have either the option to run with side straps or a full cummerbund. The only thing that I really don't like and wasn't enough to get me to not buy a second one was that they are stitched in Viet Nam. Just a good quality option at a $200 price point. WE THE PEOPLE need to get what we can to Secure the Blessings of Liberty Bestowed upon us By Our LORD and Saviour, Jesus Christ!!!
AR500 are the worst on the market. Complete garbage
@@frank12830what are the issues with them?
@@frank12830for the price they seem decent. What are some complaints?
The backdrop looks alot like south Africa!
🙌🏻 pretty for sure thank you for watching God bless.
Does anyone consider using AI security cameras? Blue Iris 75, Free AI, inexpensive Reolink cams. Yes is only a little help, but it's a full-time watchman, that you pay for on time. Just a suggestion.
HF NVIS Ham radios will go hundreds of miles and are hard to DF. But setup and take down and the technical skill to use them is just way to hard for the vast majority of people to master. My family does this and practices this, but under combat conditions even with ALE, you had better have a support team already. They are cool though. West Texas to AK with a 130 foot antenna, and 10W, is nice, but that 130 foot of antenna, lol
Albuquerque just suspended their citizen's 2nd amendment rights, and she hasn't been arrested yet, the state police was asked to endorse this.
You said earlier that you only wore 1 k count stich, hurt is 500 what changed ?
My 2 cents. I'm of the opinion that the biggest threat American citizens face is civil unrest following a disaster or grid collapse. Most of us will likely not be near the heavier gear we may own. Certainly I'll be moving toward it, that's why I have it.
I agree, my home defense doesn't include body armor. The bump in the night means I'm behind the curve, every second counts. But I want my gear for adverse circumstances. I make it a point to wear a heavier shirt under my armor, I'm not in Iraq humping on a show of force. I want some cloth between me and the carrier. All armor carriers are uncomfortable, I still want the protection under given conditions.
Sometimes I wonder. Will armor protect you if God says your number is up? King Ahab tried to protect himself when God told him he was going to die. The next day, a random archer shot an arrow that slipped through the joints in his armor. See 1 Kings 22. David defeated Goliath after turning down Saul's armor. Does armor protect us or God? Just some things to ponder.
Here i figured 7 mags for each firearm was a good base to keep on hand. Admittedly should work on a more practical carrying set up for it.
6 or 7 at a minimum for us for traveling etc but it’s all about what you are setting your gear up for. Thank you for watching God bless.
@@frogmantactical How many will they need to destroy Hunters laptop?
Any recommendations for civilians to have some kind of clear visible identification in case of mass shooting scenarios for law enforcement to know you are on their side? Like if one is going to utilize armor?
the cops will shoot you either way.
I cant say enough good things about Ferro Concepts carrier.
Definitely a good one thank you for watching God bless.
Had a slickster for almost a year. No live use just in and out of the duffel and on and off my body. It's held up well. Couple small personal preference modifications. But overall I've trusted it enough to carry it in my truck every day with a belt and 14.5.
Just ordered an fcpcv5 and can't wait for it.
@@rybaneightsix5085 You will love the fcpcv5. That what I have been using.
When you're doing clearing or in combat. Do you wear both front and rear body armor in your plate Carrier?
Absolutely.
Would it help running a plate carrier through a couple of wash cycles to help break-in the materials, to reduce the friction and chaffing effects ?
Negative. I can't speak to all manufacturers but most say to hand wash their gear. No machine washing for the most part
Comms should be another priority on the plate carrier
Who do you plan on making comms with? No one you train with is coming to your aid or to group together. They have a family yo take care of. Comms are good but very overrated.
Key up and then you will be triangulated if they want you that bad. You just got everyone killed over comms.
Don’t get sucked into that civilian nonsense because it’s guys wanting to be operators. It won’t apply the way you think it will.
Out of sight, out of mind. 🙏
I start watching your video i like them alot the question is about my hand gun that carry it is a 1911 9mm from rock island would you tell me your
Thought I've been doing security work since 1975 1911 is my passion I really enjoy it I'd appreciate an answer and your thought about it thank you
Most people I find “older” love the 1911. I have e a Bull Armory TAC 4.25” and love it but a 1911 in general is not the most effective gun in my opinion. The trigger is prestine, its machine well, but not my favorite for defense. It will definitely do the trick.
Most want that extra added safety but I also find that those who want this safety are usually mediocre shooters so the safety factor is a priority for them and that’s ok.
Practice with a Glock, Sig 365 MACRO, you will see the functional aspect is better with a Glock but I’m a bit biased with Glock. Set it and forget it handgun.
@@frogmantactical thank you for the information I do have a glock cal is 357 sig and it a good gun i like a good heavy gun in my hand and the 1911 does that for me and yes I am old school and thank you
❤ da content ....
Thank you for watching God bless.🙌🏻
@@frogmantactical same 2 u and your family
Thanx for video.
Last two tours in A'stan, I used Osprey MK lll body armour.
Wasn't one of the top one, not very confortabile but, Was what I need.
Greetings from Bucharest/Romania.
God Bless!
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Love to know more about your faith. I am a man of faith but have found a lot of folks falling prey to cults and charlatans.
Thank you for this video. I'm trying to put together a plate carrier set right now & am so confused by all the companies & options. I'm close to buying a set-up from a company called YST ( YOUR SAFETY TRAINING), which is a veteran owned company. I would love to get your feedaback on their stuff.
Go simple. The RAC is a great option.
@@frogmantactical Thank you, sir.
So what holster is that?
As far as larping goes. Train like you’d fight, fight like you trained. That’s my opinion.
I am preparing for increasing violent crime, martial law, Ect. I think my role would be neighborhood watch and protecting what I have. My next major purchase... Night vision or soft body armor? I cant afford both.
Armor. You can get a solid set up for $500. A pvs14 is going to start at $3000. You will also need training with night optics; remember they work off light, if there’s no light to magnify, it’s useless. You can get an IR light, but that’s even more money. You will also need lots of practice.
Get some good education from an experienced professional; that would be your best investment.
NV shouldnt be high on your list right now tbh
Armor. Thanks for watching God bless.
@@HWG-wm8ld 3Gs just gets you a decent serviceable spec PVS-14 you got another 3 grand to go to be able to really run it in all conditions
What plates you using. You never said.
I enjoyed the conversation. But shit i couldn't watch the video much with the ZOOM bouncing in/out. I just listened to it while i worked.
Was that some auto focus adjustment? Wow.
Lol man the dogs were in and out of frame. I didn’t set it to manual focus.
If I were to buy just the plates, could I make my own armor knowing I could trust my craftsmanship or would it be wiser to buy a trusted brand?
Sew away! Nothing better than your own personal fit
The only difference between 500d and 1000d is the thickness of the thread used to make the weave I don't really think it has much to do with durability as much as it does with how soft it feels. People have it in their head that 1000d makes a more durable material when it is actually negligible between the two Beyond puncture and ripping as far as abrasion goes it's literally nylon no matter how thick the Weave is
If I give you glass that’s 1/4” thick and one that is 1/2” thick, which one is trigger? Most government agencies will not use 500D because it will tear easier. 🙏
This guy is treating PC thread count like bed sheets lol I haven't seen any advertising for silky smooth plate carriers. Maybe an untapped market😅
@frogmantactical yeah but tearing and puncturing resistance is totally different from durability from wearing. If something rips your carrier it's going to rip it no matter if it's 1000d or 500d they're talking about ripping at the seams. It's a selling point but it's not a huge one if you understand the material. I get it though something that you want to last and crawl on the ground with having heavy plates and magazines hanging off of it needs to be durable and if 10% more durable is important to you than yeah 1000d is better. The even better stuff is the laminate things that they're coming out with now one of my dude is making plate carriers and chest rigs with some new materials
@@frogmantactical I'm really not it's actually a known fact it's not much stronger but it's heavier and more expensive
I’m a medic in the military and when I have certain gear. I even get questioned by guys. Like wtf. I have it because it’s better than the GWOT shit they assign to us. It’s weird.
I rely on my blubber to save me from bullets
"Perturbed"
I've heard supposed experts speaking about running without a handgun so that you can have more space for rifle ammo. What are your thoughts in regards to carrying a handgun during an operation? Is it essential or are they essential only to the mission?
A handgun covers a few inches. That’s silly to me. Most likely that’s coming from people who can’t shoot a handgun so what they are really trying to say is, even if I carry a handgun it wouldn’t matter because I can’t hit what I shoot at 😂 #facts.
Thanks. @@frogmantactical
no love for safelife defense plate carrier ?
If you like them, run them. They are decent. Not the best for what we do but with that being said, you can use them and still be effective.
low profile slickster
load bearring WAS dcs
What's your opinion on side plates for body armor?
They work for the sides.
Personal preference they work, but they do add extra weight. Thanks for watching God bless.
I keep hearing things like "you don't have to worry about grenades because citizens don't have access to that." "You don't have to worry about thermobaric distractors because citizens don't have access to that." "Automatic weapons can use ammo really fast, but you don't have to worry about that because citizens don't have access to those."
Anyone starting to see the theme here?
Tell me when the last time was when a home owner used a frag to defend his home during a break in🤡
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The word is ego
Does that mannequin ever catch you off guard, at night, even for a millisecond? It would me!
Thanks for the pointers!
Yep. It’s almost been shot a few times.
Good God if it's been Shot a few time you Don't need a gun 😂
How is that carrier compared to CRYE?
Overall I like the setup better. There aren’t distinct advantages as carriers have the same principles. Modularity is key.
At a professional level the advantages are small but they make a difference.
I also like the people that work for HRT. 🙏
What plates are you running?
Shot Stop Duritium
I’ve been doing combat sports for 10 years now. Not once in my life did anyone call my training “LARPING” it was fighting or training. But the second it’s firearms training it’s “larping”. This baffles me especially because most of my combat sports training is less applicable than firearms training due to the likelyhood of someone having a weapon. It is and always will be a stupid fucking take
27:40 wait what? TWO mags on your rifle? How does that work?
Mag coupler
@@TheKyle8809 interesting. First I’ve heard it it. I can see an absolute need for that in Kalifornia, but do people really use those with standard mags??