I’m training as a clinical psychologist and having “evidence based therapies” pushed on me is frustrating because it leaves something to be desired. Of course, Dr. McWilliams captures this nuance perfectly.
Are you still in training? How’s it going? Two years later and this is one of the first things I noticed about a local university program that I might have otherwise pursued-I felt like they were looking to mold me into a CBT-delivery bot rather than helping me become someone who could develop a unique therapeutic relationship with each client, within which a variety of techniques could be used as appropriate. The technique-bot model is what I have hated about my own experience as a therapy patient. I don’t want to be part of an equation, I want to be part of a helpful relationship.
15:47 - "And you do have to internalize it (a therapists reframing, challenge, or observation). You need to internalize voices that talk back to the.voices you internalize that are getting you in trouble."
I’m so angry that I keep getting cyber bullying in my account like this from someone dumping malware in my account. I don’t have any of these problems.
I wish people would just say it out loud. Like music, like food and nutrition, this field is corrupted by pure sociopathic profiteering corporations. The system of grants, job availability, etc., is utterly corrupted. The one thing I would contribute here in addition to relational therapy, is nutrition. Kids for example, on medications, could be weaned off and never on them with adequate and radical organic nutrition and exercise.
Oh gosh I just noticed this was posted 7 years ago. She was spot on and it’s sad. I hope the pendulum is beginning to swing back just a bit as I see many therapists from non-Western cultures with a more holistic view of health than the medical/scientific model she is talking about here. 🤞
Dr. McWilliams makes some great points, and is a excellent therapist, but her type of longer-term open ended approach to psychotherapy is impractical, not affordable, and unavailable for most North Americans...
You don't have public centers in North America? I've heard that your health system is quite complicated 😕 Here in France you can be in long-term psychotherapy no matter what your social class is (well, it depends of the therapist)
Well, not entirely true. This isn't just about psychoanalysis proper. She's also speaking about psychoanalytic psychotherapy, which is 1 or 2 times a week, not open-ended but it does generally take a few years. I guess the problem here is also the health care system in America. Here in Europe, we have our insurance to cover our treatment.
@d b I was able to treat low income families under Medicaid in Texas and I am Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy oriented. If people find the value of therapy they will come. The biggest problem I found in the US is that people are used to quick solutions for their problems, they tend to ask: "What can I do for this problem". They don't take the time to dig deeper and understand themselves better. That's why if therapists work for any institution they be will asked to use cognitive-behavioral therapy with coping skills for all type of problems.
I can't get enough of Nancy McWilliam's honest, contemplative, intelligent, and compassionate explanations of this very complex work
Can listen to Dr McWilliams for hours, outstanding teacher and knowledge base in the field of Psychodynamic Psychotherapy.
I’m training as a clinical psychologist and having “evidence based therapies” pushed on me is frustrating because it leaves something to be desired. Of course, Dr. McWilliams captures this nuance perfectly.
Me too Stephen and it's only getting worse
Are you still in training? How’s it going?
Two years later and this is one of the first things I noticed about a local university program that I might have otherwise pursued-I felt like they were looking to mold me into a CBT-delivery bot rather than helping me become someone who could develop a unique therapeutic relationship with each client, within which a variety of techniques could be used as appropriate. The technique-bot model is what I have hated about my own experience as a therapy patient. I don’t want to be part of an equation, I want to be part of a helpful relationship.
@@gurjeetbara7192 I’ve noticed this too as someone just looking at counseling degrees/programs. How much longer do you have in school?
Trainee clinical psychologist here and I cab relate to that !
More relevant than ever, thank you.
Reading her book "Psychoanalytic Diagnosis" at the moment, amazing information. Thank you for this video!
Nancy McWilliams has saved my life. She is incredible even as a beginner. Love You Nancy. xo
You mean at the start of her career? Or what do you mean with 'as a beginner'?
The beginner here is him describing himself, "beginner in psychoanalysis " he should've said (for) a beginner but yeah
15:47 - "And you do have to internalize it (a therapists reframing, challenge, or observation). You need to internalize voices that talk back to the.voices you internalize that are getting you in trouble."
I really appreciated this whole talk. Thank you for that. After hearing that, I am even happier that I bought a book of hers recently.
Thank you for posting this video!
Thank you for sharing this.
Waiting for that next book. :)
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Thank you so much for posting this interview. Essencial
She’s simply incredible!
This person is extraordinary
I'm really enjoying her book, so far.
Absolutely brilliant.
I’m so angry that I keep getting cyber bullying in my account like this from someone dumping malware in my account. I don’t have any of these problems.
Thanks for posting this!
she's terrific!
Thanks for sharing this video, such important information.
I'm big fan of you, nancy. I'm from South Korea.
I wish people would just say it out loud. Like music, like food and nutrition, this field is corrupted by pure sociopathic profiteering corporations. The system of grants, job availability, etc., is utterly corrupted. The one thing I would contribute here in addition to relational therapy, is nutrition. Kids for example, on medications, could be weaned off and never on them with adequate and radical organic nutrition and exercise.
Can someone help me in downloading her book called Psychoanalytic diagnosis?
email?
I found it available as a .pdf on squarespace for free
Oh gosh I just noticed this was posted 7 years ago. She was spot on and it’s sad. I hope the pendulum is beginning to swing back just a bit as I see many therapists from non-Western cultures with a more holistic view of health than the medical/scientific model she is talking about here. 🤞
Delineate = reductionism. Does not work for phenomena at the boundary where emergence of new influence impacts outcome causality.
This is why I appreciated the DSM-IV diagnostic manual for evaluation.
Great video but the sirens were a bit distracting. Close the windows before filming next time. ;)
The clash comes from money redefining medicine. Money is not fast track to good health.
There is just to learn from her
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Dr. McWilliams makes some great points, and is a excellent therapist, but her type of longer-term open ended approach to psychotherapy is impractical, not affordable, and unavailable for most North Americans...
To generalize, it is the realm of the upper middle-class and upper class, typically White individuals (who have fractured family structures)
You don't have public centers in North America? I've heard that your health system is quite complicated 😕 Here in France you can be in long-term psychotherapy no matter what your social class is (well, it depends of the therapist)
Unfortunately, these are few and far between in Canada.
Well, not entirely true. This isn't just about psychoanalysis proper. She's also speaking about psychoanalytic psychotherapy, which is 1 or 2 times a week, not open-ended but it does generally take a few years. I guess the problem here is also the health care system in America. Here in Europe, we have our insurance to cover our treatment.
@d b I was able to treat low income families under Medicaid in Texas and I am Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy oriented. If people find the value of therapy they will come. The biggest problem I found in the US is that people are used to quick solutions for their problems, they tend to ask: "What can I do for this problem". They don't take the time to dig deeper and understand themselves better. That's why if therapists work for any institution they be will asked to use cognitive-behavioral therapy with coping skills for all type of problems.