2024 Model 3 Performance Stock Lap / Laguna Seca /
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- We took the new Performance model out for a rip at Laguna Seca while it was still stock and it didn't disappoint! The stock Pirelli P Zero's are awful but even with that crutch it is still a sub1:40 car. All we did was flush the brake fluid to Motul RBF660, everything else is bone stock.
Observations from the Day:
-The Pirelli P Zero Tire is the weakest link in the lap times. It took a few sessions to get a clean first lap with cool tires. After one lap cornering and braking grip was significantly worse.
-Since the tires were the limiting factor the brakes held up for the most part, but I'd assume with a slightly better tire the brakes would be the next pain point.
-With 100% regen the battery did heat up fairly quickly. 1 hot lap was all we could expect to get. With upgraded brakes we could dial the regen back and I think we could get 2-3 solid laps.
-The new active damper works very well, at least on stock tires. I always felt like I had complete control of the car, the same could not be said of the previous gen car. I believe the new aero package also has something to do with this, especially coming over turn 1 at 120mph.
-We'll be going back in a month with some new mods to see what it can really do.
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This is "the video" I was desperately looking for. Exactly what I need over a bunch of other useless reviews.
Thank you!!!!
Really good driving man! I was impressed by seeing this video. Someone finally using these Model 3 Performances for something other than drag racing is nice to see, and with a good driver who really knows how to drive one of these and make full use of its performance.
I feel the 2 main weak points of this car is the weight and battery cooling. The Model 3 family in general are very track capable and I really hope someone makes a breakthrough on battery cooling for these performance EVs because I feel that is their weakest point. Despite the weight though the car seemed fairly nimble but you can tell just by listening to the tires and seeing the steering action that this is a really heavy car. Putting those 2 things aside, this thing doing a 1:39.8 is insane. I'm sure if you put better tires on it, it could probably go well into the 1:37 range.
Everything you said is on the money. The weight is heavy but compared to other modern sports sedans it is basically the same. The cooling is the biggest disappointment though. Maybe the next gen car will be an improvement.
Weighs less than a M3 comp
Heavier than a dedicated track car of course but pretty average for a modern road orientated sporting saloon/sedan.
Great job from a very good driver.
Great driving Steve!!!
absolutely nuts !
Great lap, can’t wait to see how the mods improve things.
I cant wait for them to be around 25k for the used ev tax credit. Older model 3 performances are right near it. LR are already around 19k with it. Such a great value for performance/efficiency.
@@Bbronsongonna wait a while buddy. Old performance dropped a lot cause the new one came out
Nice run. I can definitely see the difference in power over 100mph compared to last gen.
It's significantly faster after 40mph
Older model tapered down around 80-100mph while this one seems to pull up until 120mph.
Meanwhile Shanghai built M3Ps have same power as last gen😭😭😭
Awesome, just need quieter tires lol. Love my M3 just want the performance version.
Crazy. These are Porsche and McLaren numbers 👌💨🤯
What a 10 year old porsche? Bruh this ain't even better then a e92 m3 that's over a decade old 💀
@@G82Wattsand E92s are much slower lol
McLaren numbers? Speed phenom did a 1:27.5 Dream on.
Don’t say BS... the tesla did better than a M5 F90 and she’s slower than a m4 of 0,1 seconde...😊@@G82Watts
@@thibs8801 it can't even complete a more then 1 lap. LMFAO. Misha already tried around nurumbring and said the brakes were trash and then after the car overheated. Rysmons has a whole video talking about it. Never compare a tesla to a bmw my guy. Teslas are for brokys
Great to be able to hear the tyres without engine and exhaust noise.
This is great to see, thank you. I have a M3P on order and am researching what I need to do to get it to handle the occasional track day (coming from a Civic Type R.) Any thoughts on the MPP "Page Mill" rotor upgrade ($1K) vs full BBK ($5K?)
Am hoping the rotor improvement, pads, fluid will be enough to handle ~5 laps with regen off, but not sure.
@@vikramkirby I would recommend just upgrading the pads, fluid and remove the dust shields at first and see where that gets you. The two piece rotor from MPP is good enough for most people.
The straight line power difference is noticeably quicker! What regen setting did you use and did the battery temp hold up? Seems like the new gen has a higher current output.
I have your questions answered in the description.
@@stevencase243 thanks for the info! what days are you going to be at Laguna next time? I’ll be there on the 26th
Great lap! What SOC were you at for this lap?
I'd guess 90% ish. I went out with 95%. Unfortunately, TrackMode didn't save the normal telemetry file to the usb
But battery still gets too HOT after 1 LAP which scks
So if a guy was looking for daily tire you would go Pilot 4S over these? Be better handling and still wear good? That is what prior M3P had right?
The early cars did have ps4s, but somewhere along the line they switched to p zero's. The p zero's are perfectly fine on the street and most likely have less rolling resistance for efficiency.
Love the pilot4s for the street, I’ll be sticking with them in the future for the m3p. I don’t do track days but a bit of spirited driving, never felt loose.
@@stevencase243I think all Highland Performance get the P Zero 4 tires. Suppose to be specifically tuned for the changes made.
@@av_oid he mentioned prior generation model 3. Not highland.
I feel like the PS4S is still a better tire. I've got the old and new M3P and I feel like I will switch the tyres on the new one. I think unless you are sensitive to it and really appreciate and notice a better tyre, then you wouldn't mind or care, and that's probably 99% of drivers soo...
1:39:8. Don’t know Laguna Seca times. Is this a good one?
fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988
@@stevencase243 Thanks👍
Basically drove on the bumper strips and even over them for half the lap lol. Never seen that before
@@CyberSkunk90 I payed for the track day, I'm gonna use the whole track!
Wish we had flat tracks like this where i live.
Makes racing a heavy vehicle much easier
@@Highlander1432 not sure what you mean, Laguna Seca has some of the craziest elevation changes of any track.
@@stevencase243
I'm in North Georgia
The elevation changes here are like an obstacle course
@@Highlander1432For reference, looks like Road Atlanta has a change of 80ft compared to Laguna's 180ft. The climb up the hill at Laguna is no joke, it may look flat on video but it is steep. Then it's a 5 story drop down the corkscrew.
@stevencase243
Yes I was mistaken
Road Atl is not accessible
Atl Motorsport Park has extreme elevation changes
Takes the fun out of racing
@@Highlander1432 the elevation makes it fun!! Like a rollercoaster.
What’s the red message coming up overheating?
That's the normal brake temperature warning. I didn't actually feel any fade though. During this lap at least.
Ohh I guess it’s too early for overheating once you put some grippy tires then it will get very interesting unfortunately 😢
Replace the pads and rotors asap. At full tilt you’ll run them into the danger zone in a single lap. Fade compensation will work for another half lap after that but then it’s GG
@@stupenduzzman yeah, that's the plan. I'm no stranger to tracking these things.
@@IgorekGQ AP bbk from the old car will be swapped over.
Really absurd that Tesla has a track mode on this car and it can’t even do 1 lap without showing red alerts on the screen.
@@aec258 pretty sure it did one lap lol. The brake warnings are algorithms. Not real temp warnings. Which is why I ignore them until I actually feel the brake fade. When I upgrade pads they will be even more wrong. That's the only warning you will see. Battery temperature doesn't give you warning it just slows down on its own.
It's still a soulless car to drive.
Not at all. They are actually super fun and engaging. The whole thing about them being soulless is dribble, unless you are someone who wouldn't enjoy an Iron Man suit.
Ill never understand people that buy an EV and think itd anywhere near the experience u get driving a real sports car with a great engine. Such a dull experience. Dude doesnt even have a cool guage cluster screen .
Why do you need to hate on a $47k car that runs similar lap times as $100k true 2 door sports cars?
It has a lower cost of ownership vs. a 6-figure sports car and only costs $15 to "fill-up".
It is a good daily car that is well rounded and easy on your pockets.
If you want to shell out $90k for a bmw m4 comp and spend $150 on oil changes every couple months and $70 to fill up gas every week than good for you.
@@sleepy_ipl sound like a brokie. All that money u think ur saving u lose on resale value 😂 tesla depreciate faster then their battery drains parked due to heat 😂.. enjoy ur basic traffic ass looking car chinese fish looking blob
Do you guys hate just for the sake of hating? This car at its price offers great performance and practicality
@@sleepy_ipl so a poor mans m3/m4? Also it's hilarious ur so concerned about gas prices but lose 10s of thousands in resale value. This car in less then a year will be 30k. 2 years 20k. Tesla depreciate at historic rates. Same with all EVs.
@@sidthiru1509 hate for the sake of hating? What did I say that doesn't make sense to u? Ur telling me this is anywhere near as visceral and engaging and fun as driving a car going thru its gears on a track? This is dull asf. Just being real.