BRACE for the G's!! Johnny Dumfries Porsche 956 In-Car
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Check out this awesome 1984 In-car action from Sandown Park in Australia as Rothmans Porsche 956 driver Johnny Dumfries winces under under the incredible G-forces acting upon him through the tight and twisty bends of Sandown Raceway!
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The 1984 Sandown 1000km was Australia's first ever FIA World Championship event; An endurance motor race staged at the Sandown Raceway in Victoria, Australia on 2 December 1984.
It was the eleventh and final round of the 1984 FIA World Endurance Championship and was the first FIA World Championship race to be held in Australia.
The race included Australia's only two World Drivers' Champions. Sir Jack Brabham (1959, 1960 & 1966) and Alan Jones (1980) both participated as part of the factory backed Rothmans Porsche team. The race was Sir Jack's first and only World Championship race since the 1970 Mexican Grand Prix, though between 1970 and 1984 he had been a semi-regular competitor in Australian touring car racing.
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RIP Johnny Dumfries... Le Mans legend.
People generally don't understand that driving cars like this was/is physically demanding.
It's more than just turning the wheel and pressing pedals.
Of one of many physical demands, brake pedals required hundreds of pounds of foot pressure.
F1 drivers from 1986 lost the same amount of weight after the race as today (3 kg), purely from the lack of power steering, extremely bumpy tracks, manual gearbox, severe acceleration and ofcourse the 5 ish Gs of force
And when Sir Jack Brabham in this race was driving he did not even have driving gloves on, amazing old bugger
sounds like someone is tickling him on every corner lol
Maybe he had one knacker caught in the crotch strap.
Drivers often wince and groan without realizing it, I heard Justin Bell doing the same, I think the mics usually don’t pick up on it but these cars were super physical I can’t imagine doing hours in them. 10 minutes around an oval track and i was out of breath with arms sore for days!
In which car did Justin Bell groan? (God this sounds weird)
Check Rob's project car challenge videos, I think it was in Matt's Foxbody or in the Corvette that we could hear Justin.
he was just making racing car noises, he couldn't help himself!
Without realizing it?
@@BD12 lol
sound more like he is fighting the steering force, and vibrations from a bruised/broken rib.
I made that exact same sound when I broke my ribs druring a endurance Kart race and had to finish my stint.
People can make this sound without breaking their ribs too
Now I understand why some motorsports incorporate power steering.
Should’ve seen formula 1 before power steering
More like every motorsport except indycar. They all have power steering nowadays
@@NotATryHard7 that’s why old car have huge steering wheels. it all makes sense now :)
The 956 had power steering
Thicc Brit GRUNTING while driving
Who came from Jimmer?
i did
From one thicc brit to another
I did too, although I do believe I saw this footage at the time in 1984. Recognised it at the first groan. Intense stuff, that's for sure.
High five !
Wow, he sound more like he's trying to imitate the engine than having a baby.
This can't be only because of Gs. Impossible. He was clearly suffering from some brocken ribs or something in the neck
or maybe steering force bc maybe the track has higher grip levels. But yeah, maybe broken or slammed ribs from the vibrations and hitting his ribs on the seat edge.
called no power steering
There was a car that broke bones of their drivers, so its plausible
@@matiasfpm(sorry for the late reply) do you mean the toyota ts010?
@@marcstafanov8431 dunno, but IIRC it was some australian/NZ track that had its "feature"
Thanx Jimmy
whenever i saw someone smoking rothmans i always think of the 956 & 962.
Holy shit poor Johnny He was in real pain.
Just goes to show the effort involved to drive these cars 😮
Must have a cracked rib or some other injury? BTW Was there as a teenager for this race!
I know that noise, thats the "I dont think anyone is listening" noise you make when youre in pain
Johnny broke some ribs.
This is quite a rare and curious occurrence?
The wearying thing is that these cars didn’t have the luxury of today’s data acquisition solutions and strategies. No doubt these cars were physically exhausting and equally a mental drain, but to be able to capture the maneuvers of the car relative to driver input against a heart rate monitor would have given some perspective.
Thanks for sharing, I bought the DVD for this championship review years ago; it was great viewing!
Thank you for the upload.
I was searching for this scene for ages.
And people say racing isn't a sport, try hold your steering wheel straight while going 200mph and not wince under 3Gs of force
He was definitely dealing with an injury. Turns were to slow for him to be squirming due to G force!
Or it could just be he wasn't familiar with the forces. From the look of things, he didn't race anything similar to this in 1984, only Formula Three.
EDIT: I just listend to his interview for the F1 Beyond the Grid podcast. This was his first experience driving a sports car.
Nice video quality as for 1984.
According to the man himself in the F1 Beyond the Grid podcast, this was his first experience in driving the car. No wonder he was grunting so hard.
"uurgruhruuuurghurghhehehehe" through every corner
It is the G forces causing his wincing. You just can’t tell from the video, because they’re using a wide angle lense on the camera, which widens out the appearance of the turns. However, it’s also the amount of braking force he is having to apply to the brake pedal that is causing his wincing. Race cars typically do not have power brakes. This is because you have more “feel” and control of the brakes without power brakes. And if you use the correct braking technique, you can literally stand on the brakes with all your might, and the front wheels will not lock up. This is actually how you are supposed to brake, but it is extremely physically demanding.
That groaning is not from the G's, it's from the heavy steering. Notice that he groans way before the highest G's and stops groaning at the apex even though the G's are highest there. It's just that the he has to steer hard before the apex and efter that he's just letting the wheel center slowly. Also no racing car makes that high G's and in such a direction that you'd groan. They're no fighter jets.
modern formula one cars tho. I bet they dont groan but push breathe occasionally under hard braking and long corners like you do when you work out, to stabilize the neck.
His rib could have been bruised or broken I have brother that use to race dirt bikes and u hear that almost every race.
I raced F2000 a couple years, and I caught myself “groaning/wincing” on several occasions. Particularly on high G turns where the elevation change in the turn, or at the APEX, caused momentary high G’s (I.e. Turns 16a/16b at VIR, Turns 1, 5 and 12 at Road Atlanta, the “UpHill” and “DownHill” at Lime Rock... etc.). And I wasn’t pulling anywhere near the G’s that these Ground Effects cars, or F1 cars were pulling. I assure you, it’s more physical than you think! The “groaning/wincing” is a lack of physical conditioning. This, my friend, is precisely why they call Motor Racing a “Sport.”
Just for context: F1 cars can *snap* 9 lateral G’s, and sustain 3-3.5 lateral G’s. The car in this video, which had “Ground Effects,” was capable of very similar lateral G’s. Also keep in mind the wide angle camera lense in this video also “widens” the appearance of the turns. In reality, these turns are much sharper.
You can hear it’s mostly under braking, which is a high Area
no power steering, ground effects and manual shifting - no wonder he's grunting like Maria Sharapova
He’s doing F3 & became champion in that.
He’s had virtually NO WHERE NEAR enough practice in a much more heavier/powerful car…….error of judgement by someone to expect him to do this without the necessary’seat time’ and 6+ weeks in the gym to build up strength.
He sounded like he was having a hernia as well as being winded
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These cars were something else to ride in. The heat alone would make most of you quit. So basically you're sitting in a sauna while wearing a racing suit and helmet, gloves, etc.
Then you have to wrestle this beast around the track and try to be fast while still keep track of cars around you. Race car driving is extremely physically demanding. Especially in those cars.
You need real strenght in your arms & shoulders to steer the car. You need a strong leg to brake properly. You need a strong neck (and the stamina to keep doing it) to keep your head straight when going into corners fast, to keep your head level when you're braking hard, so you can see what's going on and when to turn the car in (because I shit you not, it will try to force your head down towards your lap).
My bro fighting demons
Rip Johnny
RIP Earl of Bune.
That's one long shit he's having.
Thank goodness for the fitness regimes that race car drivers do today. You need alot of arm strength with no power steering, especially with the large contact slick tire patch that adds more resistance on the surface. I driven some race machinery, everytime you turn the steering its like having a workout with
"Arnold ". It's all in the name of saving weight by removing power steering.
Removing power steering in an endurance car means lower endurance for drivers. Sounds counter productive.
I'm made same sounds when driving old cars without power steering.
that sounds like me... when running to the bathroom.
Top Johnny
Impressive
Jeez 😮
Hi from Jimmy's channel!
Same!
Fantastico
Wow! Its amazing to think these monsters came down to Australia to race! The glory days of Group C which at the time was competing directly with F1 in terms of popularity, speed and potential. Only Bernie sabotaged the championship along with the FIA to protect his golden goose F1. Sad as sports cars have so much more potential and relevance than F1.
He is fighting the steering wheel so hard that he is groaning. It is a hot day and when drivers in the late 70´s and around the 80´s where saying they where fighting for there lifes here is what they ment. There wasn´t that much fitness program as there is today. They had to fight all the weight of the G-forces that was penetrating the front axis of the car with just that steering wheel. Go to your local race track, or whereever you could drive very fast and smash the car as quick into the corners as possible. Mind you that you have power steering and all that kind of stuff. Than imagine that 4 times stromger without power steering and doing this all over a weekend.
This is why motorsport is a sport.
Historic
That must be a huge pile of poop. :-)
Why is everyone talking about broken ribs? Of he was injured, why did he start the race in the first place?
I hope I don’t sound that way when I race. Although I hum some weird noises when I’m 100% concentrating on drums haha
Is that a Lancia he's chasing?
No assisted steering on this car?
LOL.
so pode ser brincadeira esse cara gemendo dirigindo
Sandown. That twisty back section no longer exists.
Someone is in pain in the backhround sound
Wow! Se quedó sin la cervical 😂
Rip 😣
is that him actually grunting?
Did you not happen to hear what the narrator/commenter said?
That dude is in pain man what the fuck
They are all low G force corners... He was probably suffering from somewhere like ribs , shoulders, arms or legs
パワーステアリングのトラブル？
Força muito o equipamento
i wonder how he could survive a 24 hour race crying like that?
That's not the g force. He must have a broken rib or something.
Yeah from driving a car with no power steering
@@AdamTheMan1993 And high G forces. I had almost the same when i was karting a couple of weeks ago. We've driven all day long and i was developing pain in the ribs. Obviously you couldn't hear it but i was making sounds in the corners due to the pain. I didn't brake them. But Dumfries sounded much more.
Huuuum HHHHHuuuuuummmmmm HHHHuuuuuMMMMM
Sounds like he's having a seizure
At. Every. Damn. Corner.
Come from cars
"Endurance" racing... sounds like a suffer fest
This is pretty painful to watch
Or to listen to
It's pretty real racing, not a sofa sport like today
Sounds like me when I'm about to bust.
Great action !
This is nothing to do with G, I think either the steering was very heavy or the power steering had failed
Yes, no power steering. The G forces can be quite high in these machines although it wasn't G forces alone that were causing him to groan like that. I wager he was probably nursing some injuries before he got into the driver seat of that vehicle. Moderately high G forces coupled with back,rib or neck injuries can be quite painful. I'm not if you've ever seen the video of Jeremy Clarkson injuring his neck while driving the Nissan GT-R around Motegi. He didn't crash or anything, he went around a corner while at high speeds and when he exited the corner, his neck suddenly "went out".
@Jose Morales Someone who wants to win
@@F0X_H0UND i dont think that the G forces would cause that much pain when injured, but more so the vibrations and physical tension every time you have to turn the steering on a very grippy sunny day.
@Jose Morales I broke my ribs while karting from the vibration during a Team endurance race and finished the last 30 mins of my stint under pain. Altough slightly slower average laptime
(Btw I groaned the same way back then so I believe he has rib issues from vibration from possibly the seat edge pushing in his ribs)
I bet a real professional would still be able to push 100% with a rib Injury, since they arent that vital, they just sting when brusied/broken.
コーナリング中に呻き声のようなものが聞こえる...？
G-force and no power steering
he sounds like someone who's pushing hard on the porcelein throne.... seriously disgusting....
Wtf is that noise he's making 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
That is the sound of agony and pain from driving a car with no power steering