The Best 3 Season Lightweight Backpacking & Camping Tent? | The Copper Spur HV UL 2
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The Best 3 Season Lightweight Backpacking & Camping Tent? | The Copper Spur HV UL 2 by Big Agnes
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Much love. Hazy
I originally had the copper spur platinum 2, the extra lightweight pre 2020 version. It had a slightly longer footprint than the 2020+ model and came in under 1kg (excluding pegs and bags…….). Within 12 months of solid use it suffered from small tears along the seams of the fly - I contacted the same company you bought it through, they contacted Big Agnes who suggested the Platinum version was not up for UK winds and comped me the same version you’ve scored. I was in love with the doors and tweaks to the design, then realised they’d shaved 5cm off the length which made it just a tiny bit too small for my 6’4 compared to the platinum. The platinum is huge inside, but too fragile. You’re right that the copper spur can’t take more than a stiff breeze from the side without collapsing a bit (or a lot), but I’ve had it out in named storms copping a battering and it always bounces back (with a little bit of help/with you praying and holding it up from inside). Be careful to keep the head end with the roof vent away from the wind, otherwise it become a literal shower head when it rains and can not be sufficiently closed. I’ve had to get out of the tent and stuff a microfibre towel under the vent to stop the constant spray. Oh and the pre 2020 footprint uses different clips than the current version which makes it even worse as now I’ve had to buy two separate footprints. Point is that after all that it’s still my fav tent in fair weather.
I have the one person version, mainly due to keeping costs and weight down. Although it’s only has the one vestibule, it’s still feels roomy and not like a coffin. Used for the South Downs Way and the first half (Lake District) of the Coast to Coast and a few one nighter wild camps without any issues. Love the tent. Going back to finish the C2C end of May. I agree with your views on the ground sheets, if you need one then it should be included.
Spot on with the footprint! Claim your tent weighs Blah, but to make it useful you need a footprint, so what they are saying is we haven’t put enough thought into the tent!! I’m still looking for the perfect tent! But finding it is fun!!
looking well hazey mate. yeah im with you on the foot print matter the company should supply the foot print especially at that price mate.. non the less the tent is outstanding... it looks really well designed it looks clean smart.. loving the pockets inside.. you can basically put all your clothes into that big pocket which will allow you to have so much room on the ground where you go to sleep.. loving how they have done the vestibule where you can prop it up with your trekking poles its cool a good purchase for you mate. cool luxurious tent.
I'm with you mate if I buy a tent I don't want to then have to pay for in app purchases haha. Good vid mate I'm off to the lakes myself tomorrow in my Vango hydra 200. Bit heavy but bomb proof 🏕️
And the Vango mirage which replaced it,is also bombproof,at 3kg it’s manageable and you know you are safe in the wind.
For 20 years I had a TNF Condor. It was bomb proof, and all that was missing was the ability to use the outer doors with a walking pole.
I lost it along with everything else I owned in a fire last year and a mate recommended this (just gone through Storm Beryl in Scotland and lived 😀)
Thanks for a great review - looks like my new tent!
Hi Hazy. I've got the bikepacking version of that tent. The poles fold down into a shorter package for strapping onto a bike. I bought the footprint as well as some of the places I camp in Queensland Australia are a bit rough. But, if I am camping on sand or grass I leave the footprint at home.
In strong winds, I use the guy lines at each corner with some extra pegs out at 45° and that really helps. Cheers and thanks for the videos.
I bought this tent for my first solo camping. The video helps a lot. Great review. Thanks.
Well said on the footprint! Thanks for the great review, keep doing what you're doing!!!
Totally agree with you on having to purchase or "make your own" footprint. Vango and Wild Country being the main culprits for me. The only tent that has come with a footprint has been the Cloud Peak 2. Totally different price points to what you usually use but the same principals apply. Robbin' sods. ;)
Hazey, I've been following your videos the past few years and I've been in a confused state as to which tent to buy. After seen this video and having a few wines I just bought this tent and the footprint. I hope to knock as much use out of the tent as you did. Loving your channel. Best of luck👍
Great tents you won't regret it
I’ve got one of these - the bike packing version with the shorter pole set which is a tiny bit heavier. I don’t think I’d trust it in really high winds but that aside it’s by far the best tent I’ve ever owned, so spacious and well designed.
Got the Bike version for my 3 season tent, and an Abisko Lite 1 for my solo 4 season. Can't knock either of them
I also have the bike pack version. So well designed, spacious, versatile and light. Like all these lightweight tents, you need to treat with care, but no regrets getting it.
what type of HH head is it thanks
Just bought the UL 1 version of it. As there’s some good weather rolling in I taking it out for a spin next week. Can’t wait to check it out. Great review! Always wanted a Big Agnes and now I’ve got one.
I’ve enjoyed mine for awhile now
A brand to check out in your tent search is Helsport. It’s a Norwegian brand similar to The Swedish Hilleberg. In they’re super light line up there are some quite nice tents. Also they’re expedition line up is quite nice but at a higher cost and weight.
I’ve recently purchased the Big Agnes Blacktail 2 and it is fantastic! Took me ages to find a tent that will accommodate my 6’6” fat arse but it was definitely worth the wait. Having to get the footprint is annoying but it is kinda helpful to be able to use it as a shelter for my son and dog when it’s sunny
I have given up the tent for eight years now, I constantly use the awning as a shelter over my head. But in Belarus, forests predominate rather than mountainous areas, so there are no such strong winds. And of course you need a tent with your weather. There are many videos on my channel where I use an awning as a shelter over my head.
It’s great you’ve mentioned this about the footprint. I think it’s insane. I have the Copper Spur UL1 Bikepacker and I had to pay £70 for the footprint. This footprint insanity and the weight without pegs and bags does my head in. Perfect tent? Maybe the Tiger Wall for 3 seasons and I’ll stick to my Soulo in winter (mental money but I bought it when they were half the price of now).
The add ons are where they get you. I agree they should provide the foot print, but then it would cost more.
Also with the side winds, maybe you should open both doors and let Aeolus blow on through. Thanks for sharing
I'm so obsessed with that hoodie with 'Medic' on the back! 🤣 Would love it if the T-shirt version came in a women's fit for us 5 female viewers ;)
I've got an old Eurohike backpacker 210. Had it for 18 years. It weighs in at 2.3 kg. It's never let me down. Cost me £25 back in day. 🤣🤣👍. That's 6 cans of Northern Monk in today's money 😉👍
Aaaw I love seeing you so excited when you’ve got a new toy to play with. I’d join you in that one, looks like it’s comfy & I can listen to my book if you snore 😉 Hope you’re keeping well Haze. As always, much love 💕
I can’t agree with you more strongly about the footprint issue with tent manufacturers!! It makes no sense to sell a tent that can’t withstand the elements from beneath or not include a footprint which is necessary for the use of the tent. So bizarre!
i loved the dog in the tent instructions :D
I love mine, its a great tent extremely well made ,internal pockets are amaze balls, bike pack one comes with a nice compression sack and packs away alot smaller, it's not the warmest in really low temperatures but 3 season it's mint can't wait for more adventures in the big lass!
Great review, lovely looking tent.
On the ground sheet issue, with my experience in product design/development, the ground sheets would be a bit too expensive to just give away (these companies have to make a profit to pay staff well and fund development of new designs/materials etc.)…but i do think they should be included with every tent. So that would mean a higher upfront price, but likely lower than having to buy them both separately. I imagine keeping that upfront cost lower is a big reason behind selling them separately…also keeps their official packed weight figures down. Plus maybe they have a lot of sales data that shows many don't want a ground sheet for whatever reason?
Totally agree when you buy a tent you should be able to go camping without buying extras to stay dry.
The ground sheet is separate so that you can put the outer up first. I agree it definitely should be in the price. As always most enjoyable video👍
The other advantage of the footprint is you can leave the inner tent at home for 'posh" tarp camping. Never done it myself as I'd prefer to be bug free but some want the option.
Been using both the 1 and 2 person HV UL's for over 8 years, updating as new versions appeared. Didn't see you Place the top pole ends into their pockets on the inside of the Flysheet. Otherwise the pole will puncture the flysheet!!...Also velcro tabs that wrap around the poles to keep flysheet In place. Sold mine eventually as got fed up using in windy conditions. The Copper Spurs need Apex tie outs/guy lines like on the MSR Hubbas.
Beautiful, liveable tents with fantastic features and storage space but not for bad weather lol.
From...llama_annie❤️
It’s a great looking thing, had my eye on one but some of the horror stories I read regarding wind performance was a deal breaker.
Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL 2P 1.5kg no footprint at AUD 800. Nice review of a great UL tent. A niche product. The usual UL levy applies: pay double, save 1kg, a flimsy tent, pay extra for the footprint. I’m ok with a 2.5kg load, Marmot Catalyst 2P & footprint AUD 300.
Great choice. We have 3 BA tents including, my first tent, a classic Copper Spur UL2. Another Pro could be Big Agnes's customer support. I've had to contact them twice. I broke a pole while out camping (you'll be glad they include the repair sleeve if that ever happens) and our dogs chewed up the netting one time. Both times, customer service was very responsive and the repair on the tent was a reasonable cost.
When you were describing trying to find the ultimate…..comparing it the Dracula film…. My wife said you’re looking for the Unicorn of tents 🦄. Your comment about the extra cost for the footprint is spot on, should be supplied and then it is up to the owner if he wants the extra weight .
Hi Hazey, was looking at this tent but like you said the Extra cost for the footprint with the cost of the tent was a No-no for me ! Ended up buying Msr elixir 2 with footprint included 👍 Great video as usual.
Yaaaaasss mate!! Omg that is the tent that I really really want!! Saving for it!! Omg so glad another person mentioned it!!! 😍😍👏🏻👏🏻🔥🔥🔥
It is heavy though so it's a big downside but it's got more space in total no?? Vestibule is fantastic and the sleeping space is not tapered!! More space for me and my bf!!
Gonna get it for sure!! Want @hazeoutdoors to review it so bad!!!
@@Gfls00 if you had the money would you rather buy the msr hubba hubba nx2 ?
Love that face of excitement when it's time for us to have a look inside :)
Lol so much room for activities!! Nice video 🤙🏼
Hazey you need to take all the best features of your favourite tents and design an ultimate haze outdoors tent! Bet we would all buy that. Great video
You can use a trick with a piece of cord for pitching outer first.
Ive seen using a piece of window insulation plastic plus duck tape for a lightweight cheap alternative to the footprint. and since I've seen it mentioned on the web. Recently Ive seen Paul Messner demo'ing that with the cord on the MSR 1 man tent. Just set the tent as normal, then run a cord around the perimeter creating loops (e.g. figure of 8 knot) at the corners to attach to the poles and maintaining each section taut'ish (doesn't have to be perfect).
It'll allow pitching these type tents outer-first and even just using it as a tarp/shelter only.
Great vid as per Mr Haze.Much love ❤️ from Wigan👍
I'm from Wigan as well pal, & looking for getting out camping, do you know anywhere near us that's ok, safe & good for a starter. Cheers 👍
@@Andy-1968 don’t camp any more pal due to health issues but locally I’d say Belmont on the other side of rivington or pendle hill area Preston . Try R6 Phil outdoors he’s a Wigan bloke who might point you in the right direction for wildcamping locally bud,hope this helps you out pal.also check out mcm outdoors aswell,they are both on UA-cam
Totally agree on the footprint - it's a real pain in the arse having to buy another bit of kit.
I agree. Footprints should be included.
The haze mister is back……I was Googling lightweight 1-2 person backpacking tents as want to get on more long distance hikes this year. Much love brother…..not in that way…..filth!
its because people like their own pegs and stuff sacks, love from the place you got the tent xx
Beatiful fair weather tent, love the canopy addition with extra poles. Cheers from Canada.
Just bought one mate - sent back my Alto TR2 after seeing your experience! Had never pitched it - but this one costs the same and just seems to be better - we shall see! Neither are cheap, but when spending so much money it's important to have honest reviews. Brilliant work Hazey as always. Thanks mate.
I love this tent. This is the exact model I have. Love it.
Don’t want to suck up too much, but always enjoy your reviews. I’ve got the Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL 2 and the UL 3. Probably should have bought the Copper Spur instead of the Fly Creek UL3, however love both tents. Easy to put up, Fly Creek even lighter and it is possible to do outer first with the footprint, but fiddly. Really well thought out, but as with everything, they do seem to be getting quite a bit more expensive. Agree on footprint - think it allows manufacturers to advertise lower weights. Still, my UL 2 only weighs 1.2kg with footprint, bag, pegs etc. Can’t beat it.
just best 4 corner pyramid tent minipeak 2, can even turn into hot tent for winter, also alot more faster drier on weather by inner tent
I love, "namaste (out of trouble)". Made me laugh. You are a funny man, Hazy.
Great point about the foot print pal, I think a Haze brand tent needs to be designed, You know the pro’s and con’s of tents and people trust you. Could do with a bar area in the corner 😂
I have the Big Agnes Tiger Wall which is even lighter than the Copper Spur and only semi free standing. I've camped in it up on Kinder plateau when it was blowing a hoolie and it stood up to the wind amazingly well. It's important to guy it out properly though to hold the pole structure in place.
Big agnes used to work in Tesco security last I heard. It's a good tent I've seen others raving about it. Nice one Cyril 👍 utb.
Pressed the bell on last video least I will get your videos now, hope your gd bro 😎
your right i dont need a footprint for my vango force 10 the bathtub is very good
Always making sense fella and big yesh, all tent making makers should be when charging top whack, just make sure it has all the bells and whistles attached, otherwise you are just being like Apple, cash hungry buggers where you will lose the big sell instead of making the big purchase. Superb review as per, keep on doing what you do, did and done buddy!!
You don’t “need” stakes. Aside from the vestibule it’s a free standing tent. The vestibule can be tired off to a rock or tree. They give a minimum trail weight and a packed weight.
great looking tent, so much room, well out of my price range but I totally agree with you about having to buy footprints though
Yep, I'm with you on this. I'm always looking for the perfect tent too, im over 100 tents so far :-) But I have to say the Copper Spurs 1 & 2 for 3 season are just brilliant . I think you've got a summer keeper there?! CheersA
100?
@@Hashslingingslasher- not all at the same time tho :-)
Totally agree on the footprint thing. Always pissed me off a bit.
I dont know if you have seen the blacktail hotel 3 from Big Agnes. That's the one I have my eye on. Saving up for that one for my motorcycle.
Just bought the Marmot ALVAR UL 2. One of the reasons I chose it was because it has a thick, durable tent floor so no need for separate footprints?. With 2440 g I admit it's not the lightest of tents but it looks like it will be durable and it's also four season. Plenty of room and I like the moss green colour as well. Check it out mate ?.
It’s a quality tent review that includes a reference to Interview with the Vampire 🧛♂️
Ahhhhh, the Big Agnus..... very nice tent. I Use an MSR Elixer solo. I would love to add this one to my collection of tents. Man, 400 quid is still a bit steep. All that waffling aside, nice review. Especially the fact that your 7'-9" and built like Jean Claude Van Damage, I'd say you had plenty of room. As always, nice one mate. Cheers
Been endlessly considering a tent as i have not owned one for years and i relate to trying to find the perfect one as nothing i have seen really grabbed me and i am ocd about Everything i buy , great review and all fair comments you made .
I think charging for an addition decent groundsheet could be a business move of sorts but maybe its so people have a light option or a heavier option of them seperate but personally i just want a tent that does the job and with the footprint as part of the tent .
This tents however ticked every box for me and I love the way the sides open up for some star gazing and social camping and festival siesta's .
My only concerns the cornish winds as i am planning on taking it to the coastal path at Zennor and moors around there and that place is like a wind tunnel on a fair day sometimes.
Thanks for your videos , heart warming and entertaining and always informative , keep on and in the heart x
My old Coleman didn't need a footprint. Was the poles that wore out. Had to get one for my Vango...
Great video , I’m smitten with this tent . I have one of their sleeping bags and thats a good design too
I’m just going leave the room so you and your new tent can get aquatinted 😍😍😍
Great vlog as always and you are looking really well 👍 Karina
Nice review. Agree a feeling of space and comfort is important (to me)..."feels nice to be in it"... especially when weather is bad. The main thing putting me off is the mesh inner roof, would prefer a solid patch of material to prevent condensation drips. Inner first pitching is over criticised imo.
I've used this same tent for the last two years. It's a great tent. However, the only thing I don't like is the floor size. It tapers which makes it impossible for two 25 inch wide pads to fit unless overlapping. That is the only negative feedback I have. Advise on the trekking poles for the awning feature, point the poles down so the point is in the dirt. It holds steady and you are less likely to snag your clothing or gear on the tips. Thanks and good luck from Utah ✌🏻
Yeah, that floor space is kind of crazy. It looks like the diagram shows two mummy pads usable in this, which kind of socks because I was really looking at using something like double sleeping bag/quilt in this. I am seeing that BA has a Rapide pad that tapers to fit the floor, so I guess there's that option as well. ($$)
I’ve bought this tent for the Cape Wrath Trail looking forward to using it I’ve also got the footprint just in case of putting outer on first
The Copper spur and Big agnes in general is better than MSR right now. I've been disappointed with 3 MSR tents I've had in recent years. Poor deign decisions and material failures. Recently bought the bike pack of this tent and also the UL4 version for family backpacking, and both are excellent.
I agree with you on the ground sheet I think it’s crazy to spend $70 after you just spent a ton of money on the tent it self
Great review. Agree 100% about having to pay extra for footprints. For the manufacturers, I would say, 'If Naturehike can include the footprint at no extra cost, then...'
Very similar to my Hubba Hubba but with a porch. Had exactly the same issue with MSR about having to buy a ground sheet. I did but the Hubba Hubba ground sheet doesn't come with grommets and found if you had an Elixir ground sheet, which was my previous tent, you could set up the outer first on the Hubba Hubba. They only changed it because I hassled them so much. Love the tent but no love lost for MSR.
The weather is taking out the best 👌
Great videos mate, very refreshing after watching too many Appalachian UA-cam gear videos!
I’ve spent hours poring over tent reviews the last few days, I’m in the same boat as you, looking for a non-coffin one man, light weight, decent quality tent that doesn’t break the bank. £400 is a pile to spend on something you can try on in the changing rooms.
Big agnes is on the list, also the terra nova laser compact (even dearer!). Also still pondering over the lanshans. Plan is to do a year or two in the uk to get back in shape and then do a big trail hike.
Anyway, keep up the good work lad!
Youl not get slated boss it's just corporate greed but you are right and you are awesome I can't wait for your next adventure peace and love from 1 leg UK England
Agree with you on the footprint. Nice review. Cheers from Canada!
Dude,, you crack me up!! Like the look of this tent it looks pretty cool. Great stuff, loving your channel ✌️
Amazing looking tent. Not bad on price compared to terranova stuff too. I think the reason they don’t include the bath tub is there is such a focus on weight so want it to show as really light. Then everyone adds the footprint as well. Still a great light tent that looks bigger than most, light (including footprint) and the porch is great.
Well I have to say HOutdoors like the look but much prefer the Helm2 for ease function and ease. Like the dual entrance and canopy. As long as I can stay dry and kip easily with easy pitch with reasonable weight I really don't care what tent I use
I had one of these inwould be very carefull as I had mine out first time and it folded flat snapped pokes and ripped fly at 30/ 35 mph winds , luckily I got a refund ,
I have the zpacks duplex now and a six moon designs lunar solo great ultra light weight tents
I hope u have better luck with your big Agnes than I did , great chanel dude keep it rolling 👣👣👣👣
bought one mate! 3p bikepacker version sweet!
I just received my 2p! A lot of people who backpack don't know about the Bikepacker version. Or the benefits!
Great review, and looks like a great tent I totally agree with you too about the footprint not being included, I recently bought a tarptent scarp 1, paid extra for the crossing poles fair enough i accept that, BUT 35$ Seam sealing WTF why isn't it water tight anyway, next tyvek footprint didn't realise till it arrived can't even be pegged down waste of money had to buy a vango gp505 footprint fits great , next guylines for the sides not even included another extra and guess what you will need extra pegs too anyway rant over great video look forward to your next one
Are there anymore tents with that awning feature? Its something I have been looking for forever or at least a tent with a sort of rainbow door where you could put 2 really low chairs (like a helinox ground chair) inside and use it like a tarp in the evening before bed
ecluding pegs because people prefer certain types i guess....when i am on kinder or Bleaklow i use snow and sand pegs .Hilleberg pegs are shite on softer ground. This BA looks awesome for its weight. I will give you a footprint for nowt if you get me thinking about another tent i dont need young Hazey
Oooooohhhh Hazey, daisy, crazy and some other rhyming stuff, Great video again, loved it! Nice to see you reviewing stuff and not just nicking John lockers lobster pots!!! Love you lad, but I’m not buying that tent!! I’m a lanshan pro person with slightly under sized knackers unfortunately! Keep em coming!!! X
Great tent great review 👍🏻 totally agree about the footprint should be included in the price as its expensive enough keep them videos coming mate class channel buddy ....colin.🏴🔥⛺️
You are bang on on the footprint
Nice comment on the footprint discussion mate here here...😀👍
Great review, small features make the difference, alot of the decathlon tents have great features on inside but they are more car camping tents not to walk up in the mountains.
Hi mate, have you heard about lone rider adv tent ⛺️ Predominantly for motorcycle travel , but can be used for anything… I find it a great tan very well made. 👍🏼👍🏼
That's a lot of money 💰 I just use blue tarp from pound land...for ground sheet or builders damp proof membrane...
Now I want another tent too! Thanks a lot hazy... 🤣
Got the 3 version at Xmas.. only had it up in living room but it’s just gorgeous. Can’t wait for warmer times to try out some Irish mts. Couldn’t agree more on footprint 👏
haha...same here
The jumping in the tent did it for me lol.
I agree the foot print should come included. or they should make it so you dont need it. Just makes no sense.
I'm curious why you gave up on the S2S Alto? You seemed so excited about it.
I've had their Fly Creek UL2 for a while and got gyped into getting the footprint and THEN discovered that from a waterproof point of view, it doesn't need it! "To prolong the life of the tent" is their claim, or it was - I think it's more popular in the States too were dry but rough ground (like desert) is more common...good kit though
I agree for typical UK conditions. I bought a ground sheet with my Copper Spur and have never used it and I’ve never had a problem even in very wet weather. TBH I think it’s only worthwhile if you want to use it without the inner to save weight but the midges make that pretty unattractive in Blighty! I did try it in the garden to see how easy it was to pitch outer first but decided that the faff wasn’t worth it as it’s such an easy tent to pitch I’ve always managed to keep in the inner dry even in light rain.
@@mikelambrou4462 That's true - the fast fly configuration is a decent aspect of the Fly Creek. If you've got the time and want the benefit (so warm weather/sunny shelter) then the footprint is a big plus. If you do need to go 'fast' because of the rain then not so much. I don't regret getting it bit agree with Hazo - should be part and parcel for the cost....I also got sent the wrong one first off..
first time i've kinda coveted, apart from the wind handling its looks great, i have an old vango alpha300 dome style tent, i think its about 6kg, my gear weight is a bad joke, but i console myself with, nobody will ever steal my vango, and i have left it set up while i go exploring countless times. what i will say about the copper spur, the price and the features.... seem much more sensible than other tents. ps. have you ever considered designing your own tent? and making it????
I’d buy one
Naturehike cloud up 3 does me great. Their customer service is useless but I think the tent is great for the price
@@Hashslingingslasher- yeah i liked the cloud up, i'm in scotland so i need a tent i can be in on rainy days, even my vango 300 gets completely fill up, including giant porch area.
Of course it’s the One it’s always been the One Brother.
Love watching you're reviews !!!!have a great evening ✌🍻