Hey man, i remember when this game first came out, i had no internet, so everything i learned was out of trial and error, i think a lot of us did back in the day, all i remember from back then was that this was way more intense than warbirds II.
Just downloaded this game as my squad is rumbling about moving from War Thunder to IL2 - A couple things I can point out in your video that might improve your flying skills - Your "combat" flaps improve your turn rate because, for almost any aircaft, "flaps 1" will be your performance flap setting, giving more lift than drag. Any setting above flaps 1 will cause more drag than lift, while decreasing the stall speed, and steepening the approach path. When you land, keep this rule in mind: AIRSPEED is controlled by PITCH, and your SINK RATE is controlled by POWER. You got them backwards in the video. Shoot your approach to the runway from a height of ~1000' AGL and aim for the threshold by keeping it in the same position on your windscreen; If the aim point moves up on the canopy, you're sinking too fast - add power, little nose up to compensate the airspeed. If the aim point moves down on the canopy, you're too high. Reduce power, nose down to keep your approach speed. Your approach speed for any given aircraft is determined by multiplying the stall speed by 1.3
I just installed this game and crashed many times while attempting to land. Mostly due to high airspeed and wrong angle. This video was the most helpful to me. I just landed a Spitfire successfully twice. Thanks Jef
Same lol, i just try to level it and then just slowly stall it cuz i just fucking CANT slow down and i'll either crash or completly overrun the runway.
haha all his tutorial vids are awsome and i think whats funny is that i have played flight sims my whole life so im basiclly self taught in all these tactics, and basiclly all the things that jef is teaching us in this vid i have used and im like "holy crap i already know how to do that! :D" it makes me more comfident in getting ready to play this sim (Y) how many of you have had or have that same feeling? lol
Anyone having issues going to 3rd person remember the option to have the 3rd person camera is not an option on certain difficulties, control for it is usually F2
Just to give advice: There's a little white arc with a black ball in it. That is the turn and bank indicator. You can use that to perfectly coordinate your turns by keeping that ball in the center using your rudder. If the ball isn't in the center, in a turn or straight-and-level flight, you're in a slip and flying sideways.
The 2-point and 3-point actually describes two different styles of landing, not the design of the landing gear. In a 2-point landing, you touch down on two wheels first, then settle onto the third wheel, this is also called a wheel landing; a 3-point landing is touching down on all 3 wheels at the same time. An airplane with two mains and a tail wheel is a plane with conventional landing gear; also called a tail dragger. Most modern planes have tricycle gear, with two mains and a nosewheel.
I played with the keyboard and mouse all the time, the trick is to set the time to 1/2 or 1/4 the speed so that you can have a much better control of your plane.
like you mention there's a lot of Control keys, but in the 4 last videos including this one did not bother to either call out the keys being pressed or shown on screen, would it be easier using the joystick since one has to mess with lesser Key or remember each keyboard key?
@monkeybrains911 Depends on your keybinds. Go to settings, find the "Controls" and study what keys you have assigned to what. Change them, apply, there you go. I personally have zoom toggling bind to one of the mouse buttons and separate levels of zoom to three different keys.
Thanks so much for this. I wanted to play this game, and I'm no casual gamer, but I found its learning curve daunting. For example, I thought my joystick was causing the rise and roll that you fixed wtih aileron and (presumably) elevator trim controls. How do they not have that in the manual?
I hear ya buddy im going through the same thing I just bought Il2 1946 its going to be the first combat flight sim I have played on PC (however its not my first flight sim I have ever played) I have a Logitech Attack 3 joystick I have heard mixed reviews about it but so far its pretty legit! hope you try it out!
They were made at different times. For example, the planes modeled for the original "il-2" would be much worse then the more recent expansions, such as pacific fighters or forgotten battles.
Hey I have a question because 8m just wondering on single m8ssions 0r an y missions can you switch to other friendly aircraft and control them or is it not a feature.
I used to be able to land flawlessly with this now I just crash every time plane falls like a brick idk if its a bug or me but cant seem to land anymore
You think you have it bad when it comes to landing? I cant land any plane ever since i got a joystick! I was doing more or less fine when it came to landing when using a keyboard but with a joystick i always lose my gear and nose dive into the runway (if i even hit the runway and not that pesky tanker thats rolling around the strip...). Either that or my plane starts to bounce like a goddamn basketball and then i hit the runway... either way works i guess :s
@jefmajor Try FreeTrackNoIR. For that you only need a webcam, and the program is free. There are other alternatives aswell. Works fairly well, actually. Nice vid :)
It is to warn you that your flaps are down. It helps a lot. Trust me. Pretty much, never have anything but raised flaps unless you are turning in combat, landing, or taking off.
Hello there I am just starting with this game. First time flying combat sim, I used to use FSX. Tried a fighter pilot campaing, but with very bad results. My question is: where should I start? MODs or not? Thanks a lot.
No reason not to use mods unless you're computer illiterate or don't have the space/bandwidth for them. Far as bad results go you just need to learn the limitations and strengths of your plane relative to the enemy's. If you're trying to turn fight in a p47 with a 109 for instance, you're likely going to die fast. The general rule of thumb for each nation goes like this: British fighters are good at turning and have decent acceleration but bad top speed. Generally obsolete by late-war standards though still extremely dangerous at lower altitudes. American fighters are fat, heavy, durable with good to great armament, most of them are speed demons with bad turning circles, to use them well you really need to manage your energy efficiently (learn how to change prop pitch and manipulate your radiator, don't get lured into turning fights, instead go for sniping passes) Russian fighters are jack of all trades, masters of absolutely none (with the exception of the mig3 which is faster than anything in the early war at medium-high altitudes) they also tend to have limited ammo. German fighters are almost always better at climbing than their enemies, so if you can lure your enemy into a climbing match you'll likely get them to stall out first and snipe them on the rebound, otherwise they're like the Russian fighters, generally not masters in any particular field, with few exceptions (ta-152 and fw190 are both speed demons only rivaled by late American designs) Japanese tend to be extremely brittle but also extremely agile, with turn fighting characteristics rivaling biplanes. Avoid low-speed turning fights against them at all costs, especially if you're in an American plane. Other than that they also have decent speed and excellent climbing characteristics only surpassed by the 109s of Germany. This translates into extremely dangerous when in the hands of an experienced pilot, but also very obsolete by late war standards, American campaigns against them tend to turn into turkey shoots real fast. Italian planes are generally pretty poor with their early designs, but once the 202 and 205 come around they become very worthy adversaries. They generally are designed to be dogfighters with characteristics rivaling the 109s but with a higher top speed and a slightly more stable profile (less torque effects and generally just easier to aim/fly in) I would highly recommend the B.A.T. mod with the latest update if you have the time/space for it, if not you can settle for VP mod which is also quite large (I think around 30 gigs vs BAT's 80) but is much easier to install. I assume coming from FSX that filesize isn't a big issue for you though. Happy hunting.
@@Birdy890This is great advice, appreciated. Now I think I'll have a much better idea of how to engage the enemy. I'll give a try to BAT's for sure. Thanks a lot mate!
somehow i landed at around 150, right on the runway, but still manages to break the wheels almost every single time... (*i practice with a bf109), i guess there should be a way to control rate of descend?
Helpful but doesn't explain the weird stall/roll i experienced after take off flying level at 90% throttle and not at stall speed. I was well over. I simply tried to make a right turn and teh plane decided to dive and woudl nto do anthing else.
i have a little problem during the flight, when i've already took off of the runway, i gain altitude and i raise the flaps, my plane rises up a little without touching anything, and i have to press the 'elevator up' key continuously to stay neutral, i don't have a joystick. Maybe this could be solved having one of them?
thx shadowghost actually I've learnt to land the 109. you have to raise the nose real high in order to do that... still trippy landing but at least no broken wheels anymore : )
lol OHHHHH okay okay I know what your talking about, I have to do the same thing when landing a P40 kittyhawk I think it has something to do with th diameter of the propeller! I have this sim (not installed yet) but "birds of steel" has the same sort of physics kind of a nice pre-training. lol
No, you can't. Just try it. You might be able to take off and land, but that's about all you'll manage. This is a combat sim - there's no point in playing without proper controls.
I really really really enjoy your tutorials AND "let's play IL2" Videos. They are the shit. I'm writing this comment now to ask you for advice. I'm having trouble trimming my flight. Is there anything more detailed you can share with us about that topic? Like..when you plane banks left..how do you need to trim it and in what "steps" you should trim it. like...hitting the button 5 times or less/more? please keep making IL2 videos. best regards Egoleech.
What joystick should I buy for IL-2? I'm thinking of buying IL-2 Sturmovik: The Complete Edition and IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946, and this will be my first flight/WWII simulator. Any suggestions?
:P bf109s are historiclly known for breaking their landing gears during landings and uh since this game is historiclly accurate with its aircraft maby you should do some 109 studying instead of flight sim studying lol idk thats my theory anyways i hope it helps friend :)
Check up on free-track. I made a working head tracking with few euros of LEDs + resistors, old digital camera power supply and an old webcam with removed IR-filter.
He means a joystick like this: www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00009OY9U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476257369&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=joystick&dpPl=1&dpID=414X2Z0A7TL&ref=plSrch
Oh come on man it's so much better with a joystick, if you have a joystick, your girlfriend will even play ;) Seriously you have to play with it get use to it know your aircraft all aircraft responds differently. Try flying the A6M2 Zeke, a very light and easy aircraft to fly for this Sim, landings are a piece of cake with it!
i think, if my tired dusty brain is correct, its on of the F keys... example F3...hell if i know which of the 12 F buttons it is but try and you will most likely get itXD
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Hey man, i remember when this game first came out, i had no internet, so everything i learned was out of trial and error, i think a lot of us did back in the day, all i remember from back then was that this was way more intense than warbirds II.
Just downloaded this game as my squad is rumbling about moving from War Thunder to IL2 - A couple things I can point out in your video that might improve your flying skills - Your "combat" flaps improve your turn rate because, for almost any aircaft, "flaps 1" will be your performance flap setting, giving more lift than drag. Any setting above flaps 1 will cause more drag than lift, while decreasing the stall speed, and steepening the approach path.
When you land, keep this rule in mind: AIRSPEED is controlled by PITCH, and your SINK RATE is controlled by POWER. You got them backwards in the video. Shoot your approach to the runway from a height of ~1000' AGL and aim for the threshold by keeping it in the same position on your windscreen; If the aim point moves up on the canopy, you're sinking too fast - add power, little nose up to compensate the airspeed. If the aim point moves down on the canopy, you're too high. Reduce power, nose down to keep your approach speed.
Your approach speed for any given aircraft is determined by multiplying the stall speed by 1.3
I just installed this game and crashed many times while attempting to land. Mostly due to high airspeed and wrong angle. This video was the most helpful to me. I just landed a Spitfire successfully twice. Thanks Jef
Same lol, i just try to level it and then just slowly stall it cuz i just fucking CANT slow down and i'll either crash or completly overrun the runway.
haha all his tutorial vids are awsome and i think whats funny is that i have played flight sims my whole life so im basiclly self taught in all these tactics, and basiclly all the things that jef is teaching us in this vid i have used and im like "holy crap i already know how to do that! :D" it makes me more comfident in getting ready to play this sim (Y) how many of you have had or have that same feeling? lol
This was a great tutorial. I couldn't tell if there were actual step by step tutorials within the actual game, but these were great.
The introduction mission for the IL-2 Explains most of it.
Anyone having issues going to 3rd person remember the option to have the 3rd person camera is not an option on certain difficulties, control for it is usually F2
thanks
I love the "I'm a live, weeeeeee".
Just to give advice: There's a little white arc with a black ball in it. That is the turn and bank indicator. You can use that to perfectly coordinate your turns by keeping that ball in the center using your rudder. If the ball isn't in the center, in a turn or straight-and-level flight, you're in a slip and flying sideways.
The 2-point and 3-point actually describes two different styles of landing, not the design of the landing gear. In a 2-point landing, you touch down on two wheels first, then settle onto the third wheel, this is also called a wheel landing; a 3-point landing is touching down on all 3 wheels at the same time.
An airplane with two mains and a tail wheel is a plane with conventional landing gear; also called a tail dragger. Most modern planes have tricycle gear, with two mains and a nosewheel.
@Tepic Yes I have. Then I looked at my wallet, then back at the track ir, then back at my wallet, then I cried.
I played with the keyboard and mouse all the time, the trick is to set the time to 1/2 or 1/4 the speed so that you can have a much better control of your plane.
like you mention there's a lot of Control keys, but in the 4 last videos including this one did not bother to either call out the keys being pressed or shown on screen, would it be easier using the joystick since one has to mess with lesser Key or remember each keyboard key?
Jef. Have you looked at TrackIR for the view changing? It makes a world of difference!
Hi! But can you make a video for 2022!
@monkeybrains911 Depends on your keybinds. Go to settings, find the "Controls" and study what keys you have assigned to what. Change them, apply, there you go. I personally have zoom toggling bind to one of the mouse buttons and separate levels of zoom to three different keys.
This is such a high quality old video, you musta been rich back then man
Thanks so much for this. I wanted to play this game, and I'm no casual gamer, but I found its learning curve daunting. For example, I thought my joystick was causing the rise and roll that you fixed wtih aileron and (presumably) elevator trim controls. How do they not have that in the manual?
I hear ya buddy im going through the same thing I just bought Il2 1946 its going to be the first combat flight sim I have played on PC (however its not my first flight sim I have ever played) I have a Logitech Attack 3 joystick I have heard mixed reviews about it but so far its pretty legit! hope you try it out!
They were made at different times. For example, the planes modeled for the original "il-2" would be much worse then the more recent expansions, such as pacific fighters or forgotten battles.
Well well well.Its 2k19 and i wanted to play my old games.And really i cant fly with my keybord and mouse...For controler do you think about joystick?
joystick, for sure, u need it and also trackIR.
@@jiang8192 thanks mate
What map are you using ? That's a perfect runway to practice on. :)
Hey I have a question because 8m just wondering on single m8ssions 0r an y missions can you switch to other friendly aircraft and control them or is it not a feature.
True men (like me) fly using a Racing Wheel. :-)
Nice tutorial. I actually learned a few things that I didn't know about.
this was 10 years ago wow i was 3
Jesus IKR! like I saw 3 ir camras and they were all over 150 bucks!! thats insane, are you still going to invest in one?
I used to be able to land flawlessly with this now I just crash every time plane falls like a brick idk if its a bug or me but cant seem to land anymore
I turn trotel to 95 and set flasp to neutral position and its steel getting up
You think you have it bad when it comes to landing? I cant land any plane ever since i got a joystick! I was doing more or less fine when it came to landing when using a keyboard but with a joystick i always lose my gear and nose dive into the runway (if i even hit the runway and not that pesky tanker thats rolling around the strip...). Either that or my plane starts to bounce like a goddamn basketball and then i hit the runway... either way works i guess :s
How increment prower 1 by 1 and not 5 by 5 with keyboard? Ej: 1%,3,5% and not 5%,10%,15%,etc-
@jefmajor Try FreeTrackNoIR. For that you only need a webcam, and the program is free. There are other alternatives aswell. Works fairly well, actually. Nice vid :)
10 years old. Still useful, thx.
Where do u get a joystick and how much does it cost?
It is to warn you that your flaps are down. It helps a lot. Trust me.
Pretty much, never have anything but raised flaps unless you are turning in combat, landing, or taking off.
Hello there
I am just starting with this game. First time flying combat sim, I used to use FSX. Tried a fighter pilot campaing, but with very bad results. My question is: where should I start? MODs or not?
Thanks a lot.
No reason not to use mods unless you're computer illiterate or don't have the space/bandwidth for them. Far as bad results go you just need to learn the limitations and strengths of your plane relative to the enemy's. If you're trying to turn fight in a p47 with a 109 for instance, you're likely going to die fast. The general rule of thumb for each nation goes like this:
British fighters are good at turning and have decent acceleration but bad top speed. Generally obsolete by late-war standards though still extremely dangerous at lower altitudes.
American fighters are fat, heavy, durable with good to great armament, most of them are speed demons with bad turning circles, to use them well you really need to manage your energy efficiently (learn how to change prop pitch and manipulate your radiator, don't get lured into turning fights, instead go for sniping passes)
Russian fighters are jack of all trades, masters of absolutely none (with the exception of the mig3 which is faster than anything in the early war at medium-high altitudes) they also tend to have limited ammo.
German fighters are almost always better at climbing than their enemies, so if you can lure your enemy into a climbing match you'll likely get them to stall out first and snipe them on the rebound, otherwise they're like the Russian fighters, generally not masters in any particular field, with few exceptions (ta-152 and fw190 are both speed demons only rivaled by late American designs)
Japanese tend to be extremely brittle but also extremely agile, with turn fighting characteristics rivaling biplanes. Avoid low-speed turning fights against them at all costs, especially if you're in an American plane. Other than that they also have decent speed and excellent climbing characteristics only surpassed by the 109s of Germany. This translates into extremely dangerous when in the hands of an experienced pilot, but also very obsolete by late war standards, American campaigns against them tend to turn into turkey shoots real fast.
Italian planes are generally pretty poor with their early designs, but once the 202 and 205 come around they become very worthy adversaries. They generally are designed to be dogfighters with characteristics rivaling the 109s but with a higher top speed and a slightly more stable profile (less torque effects and generally just easier to aim/fly in)
I would highly recommend the B.A.T. mod with the latest update if you have the time/space for it, if not you can settle for VP mod which is also quite large (I think around 30 gigs vs BAT's 80) but is much easier to install. I assume coming from FSX that filesize isn't a big issue for you though. Happy hunting.
@@Birdy890This is great advice, appreciated. Now I think I'll have a much better idea of how to engage the enemy. I'll give a try to BAT's for sure.
Thanks a lot mate!
somehow i landed at around 150, right on the runway, but still manages to break the wheels almost every single time... (*i practice with a bf109), i guess there should be a way to control rate of descend?
Awesome vid! Thx for upload! I loved your LPs of IL-2 and Stranded 2.
Helpful but doesn't explain the weird stall/roll i experienced after take off flying level at 90% throttle and not at stall speed. I was well over. I simply tried to make a right turn and teh plane decided to dive and woudl nto do anthing else.
i have a little problem during the flight, when i've already took off of the runway, i gain altitude and i raise the flaps, my plane rises up a little without touching anything, and i have to press the 'elevator up' key continuously to stay neutral, i don't have a joystick. Maybe this could be solved having one of them?
You should use the trim lever to keep the engine leveled when flying. The speed causes the plane to pitch up.
@@Jcvlasmesas and what key it's the trim level? i can't find it
@@LoganSilverFOX450 Look in the controller options, I think you need to bind it
Happy flights mate
Hi
You never said what you were using to 'trim' the plane.
thx shadowghost actually I've learnt to land the 109. you have to raise the nose real high in order to do that... still trippy landing but at least no broken wheels anymore : )
I have a joy stick, or "had one". I used it to play this, hated it, and now I am a pro without the joystick.
What controller do you use Jef?
jef what type of joystick do u use?
what happens if you dont have a joy stick
This was great. Wonderfully informative. Understand the basic mechanics a lot better now.
is this il-2 : 1946 or the original game
Loves you jefsies for creating this.
can i play it without flight stick?
@jefmajor
Maybe that donation money can go towards TrackIR and a new IL-2 let's play hmmm? :D
lol OHHHHH okay okay I know what your talking about, I have to do the same thing when landing a P40 kittyhawk I think it has something to do with th diameter of the propeller! I have this sim (not installed yet) but "birds of steel" has the same sort of physics kind of a nice pre-training. lol
how did you bind your joystick controls
Can you play with a keyboard and mouse instead?
Yes
No, you can't. Just try it. You might be able to take off and land, but that's about all you'll manage. This is a combat sim - there's no point in playing without proper controls.
I really really really enjoy your tutorials AND "let's play IL2" Videos. They are the shit.
I'm writing this comment now to ask you for advice. I'm having trouble trimming my flight.
Is there anything more detailed you can share with us about that topic? Like..when you plane banks left..how do you need to trim it and in what "steps" you should trim it. like...hitting the button 5 times or less/more?
please keep making IL2 videos.
best regards
Egoleech.
@11Sparky111 ok i bought Saitek Cyborg X Joystick is it good for IL 2
@hannes807 Then you got a crappy joystick. I have an AV8R. It is perfect, has quite a few buttons and a is just alot easier to use.
how to change view sir
i want to check the external
im using laptop
@Qweryy Lee L well umm. imm using laptop.
i have another problem. you see.....the f keys aint workin sooo
@Qweryy Lee L oh ok
@LucanJacups Both. I was on a horseboat.
what system are you running?
@ghunt1023 +1 I built a freetrack hat in an afternoon for about $5 worth of stuff, setup took a while but is worth it!!!
What joystick should I buy for IL-2? I'm thinking of buying IL-2 Sturmovik: The Complete Edition and IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946, and this will be my first flight/WWII simulator. Any suggestions?
:P bf109s are historiclly known for breaking their landing gears during landings and uh since this game is historiclly accurate with its aircraft maby you should do some 109 studying instead of flight sim studying lol idk thats my theory anyways i hope it helps friend :)
Please i cannot get external view! I got the three in one version
you dont need to throttle of during a turn
how do you zoom in and out? please respond!!!!
The zoom in/out controls, obviously. I map them to the hat on my stick.
why are some planes better modeled than others?
Check up on free-track. I made a working head tracking with few euros of LEDs + resistors, old digital camera power supply and an old webcam with removed IR-filter.
@GeekyMe97 It all depends on the person in question.
by joystick, do you mean a gamepad?
please reply
He means a joystick like this: www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00009OY9U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476257369&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=joystick&dpPl=1&dpID=414X2Z0A7TL&ref=plSrch
Ohhk...
Anyone know why my plane dings at me when I have the flaps in anything but raised?
So that you'll raise your flaps.
Thank you
oh nvm look! I found a tutorial! thx dude!
Damn it my joystick is at my uncles house
@Leminid Try Teh Interwebz.
i don´t have a joystick and i play this game on realistic and im very good
i have a ps2 controller and adapter would that work
So, did it work?
Excellent video. I'd show any potential IL-2 players the same basics. :-)
This is how " One F Jef " was training before going to war at 1942
It`s fun when a game is playing derp with the controls, now isn`t it?XD glad I at least could be of a minor derpsistance for you^^ good hunting!
me played fw190 a8 hard elevate and control default ja help 😂😖
@jefmajor You can use a $15 walmart webcam
0:53 after I heard this, i immediatley turn off the game and never played it
I dont have joystick
You can play it with keyboard, but good luck.(one year later)
Oh come on man it's so much better with a joystick, if you have a joystick, your girlfriend will even play ;) Seriously you have to play with it get use to it know your aircraft all aircraft responds differently. Try flying the A6M2 Zeke, a very light and easy aircraft to fly for this Sim, landings are a piece of cake with it!
@zotde75 I agree
It would be great if he just stop to move the mouse all the time.
Wait joystick? Im dead
Excelent video despite the awful graphics! Thanks.
so your saying I wasted money
Fudge
Waste more so the money you wasted doesn't go in vain
Must not ask what game this is. *twitch twitch*
Yes and yes.
@hannes807 ok thanks
@jefmajor Freetrack!!!Search for it.
lol then thats skill son!
Must not ask for serials. *twitch twitch* XD
i think, if my tired dusty brain is correct, its on of the F keys... example F3...hell if i know which of the 12 F buttons it is but try and you will most likely get itXD
Isn't funny how you can fly a plane but you can't drive a truck?
my plane just turn like he is crazy ;·(
F2
How DA fuck do I go 3therd person
Actually, you can be quite successful without a joystick in this game.
Autopilot in a frikin spitfire?! wo this game rally isn really very realistic