Here’s why you should never sell a car on eBay…
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2021
- This surely has to be the last time that I attempt to sell a car on ebay, and here's why I think you should never sell a car on ebay either...
Here's the link the 7 series auction:
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Here’s the link to the auction for my 7 series: silverstonedigitalauctions.com/auctions/2007-bmw-760-li-auto-1319
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Camerons making an account as we speak so he can bid again lol.
What do you want for it? I don't do auctions.. name me a price. Auctions=Pull outs. I had an attempted robbery on my Abarth which was listed on eBay a few weeks ago, also lost out on fees.. sold it on fb
Started auction @ 1p so everyone had a chance. With a reserve of £8,000. 😂
EBay is just a rogue state these days. There is another option which happened to me two years ago - a bidder, really keen like yours, lots of messages etc in the run up to auction end. Turns out he was bidding high to put others off as he himself was selling a similar car and wanted me out of the way so people would bid on his car. I had no come back and eBay wasn’t interested..he even left negative feedback saying “car not as described” even though he never showed up!
Wow I never thought of something like that... I wouldn't do it my self and while it's a cuntish move it's Pretty clever.
Plot twist.. that guy was you and what you did to another seller wasnit
What a bizarre assumption?!
The v12 cold start 😫😫
Joel, seriously, don't sell the car. You will never make back what you could earn from it through content, especially as your channel grows, and you will forever regret moving it on. Take this as a sign that you're meant to keep it!
I think so too
@@moritzclement8299 I've got one of these too, it’s currently a non-runner and I can't really afford to put it back on the road, but I'm working on changing my circumstances and I know I would forever regret selling it for a small amount of cash that I'd soon burn through anyway.
@@richardharrold9736 Very good. It is a shame if one must give up such a classy car just for some temporary cash... And Joels 7 series videos are always a mood lifter, would be so sad if they didnt come anymore
@@moritzclement8299 yeah, and I've learned a bit more about my own car as a result! Before JayEmm bought this car, nobody on UA-cam had really done anything about the 760, and I followed the car over to Joel's channel when he bought it...
I sell and buy cars on E bay,no probs at all.E
Absolute time waster! Don’t think it was a prank, more like he got cold feet! Now you have the joy of getting your eBay charges refunded. He missed out on an awesome car at a bargain price.
I personally wanted to buy the car to import to my country but the time it will take too long. In my country it is rare to find a 760Li and they are usually double Joel's asking price.
@@frederiquekruger4818 I understand your issue, in Australia they are also very expensive, where are you from?
How easy is it to get eBay charged refunded?
@@ManUtd57920 it can be a pain, the purchaser needs to do some actions, otherwise then you have to prove they don't want to go forward with the sale, it can be a pain, and take some time, and when we are talking that sort of money, it's not a few pound.
I watched this twice to help with the fees
Not all hero’s wear capes
Fingers crossed for option 3 😂
That's a bit extreme, hope you don't wish that for people who don't show up to your viewings.
@@jackjones4784 oh lighten up. It was a joke.
@@HighPeakAutos exactly it was just a joke chill out guys 😭😭
@@jackjones4784 …… I bet your the f***## life and soul of any party aren’t mate…🥱🥱
@@gingerbreadman5265 omg your right! your mum is though
Hi Joel - just discovered your channel, enjoying the vids very much. I feel a kindred spirit watching these. I too cannot stop buying these wonderful old cars, fully knowing they will tear me a new one but I do it anyway 😩 Just moved from England to Canada and already have a gorgeous 2006 CL500 coming from California to replace the one I sold in the UK. It’s sure to be ruinous but yet I can’t wait for it to arrive. I’ve found getting much more hands on with the cars with help from UA-cam has keep the cost down considerably. Re the EBay thing, selling is a nightmare between no shows and low offers. Keep up the good work! Push comes to shove I’d probably dump the RR and keep the V12.
I'd also never agree to pick someone up without at least the deposit
Good luck for a smooth sale dude. Had some right scammers on eBay over the years and all the power is with them.
Love the channel..I'm born and bred from Edinburgh and was gutted after watching this video...i was so ashamed you went thru this shit Joel....
So sad to hear you got messed about, but selfishly lovely to see that 7-series again. Whoever buys it will absolutely love it. Thanks for sharing your eBay advice. I just bought a LS430 vis eBay, and as a buyer I can’t fault it, however I’ve spent the best part of a year trying to buy a V8 remote and the buying experience has been so frustrating with sellers being aloof and ghosting me. I’ve never experienced anything like it, the car I ended up buying was 20 minutes away and we made the deal in person face-to-face, and it seems like that’s sometimes the only way to go?
Gutted to hear that mate. I’m sure somebody out there will buy it. It’s a fantastic car.
If you sell anything on ebay automatically block all the people who have history of being poor buyers / sellers (non payers, negative feedback, even people who have no history etc). We used to get a lot of issues like this, put every single blocker on we could and it filtered out loads of the idiots
I’m so sorry this has happened to you, I feel your pain. Somehow in my life every cloud has had a silver lining and I hope this is the happens for you. Thank you for the interesting quality content.
Take care 👍😀
Blessing in disguise. This is a sign not to sell the BMW. Keep it Joel. You will find a way, even if you SORN it for the time being. It is an appreciating asset.
Thanks Joel for the update.
Because of this car I started watching your channel, and I'm really happy with that. Don't sell the most exciting car of all of yours.
My friends after a certain classic hot hatch .The amount of cars I see on EBay that sell and return a week or so later is beyond a joke. Obviously cars not as described or idiots messing about. I’ve never sold a thing on there because of these reasons .Dreamers and tyre kickers galore and no repercussions .
Hi Joel
I was about to comment about offering out second chance offers to the other unsuccessful bidders , but you covered that in your vid 👍
From my own experience I've sold many cars on eBay over the years without issue, albeit I never use the more common open auction bay format for exactly the reasons you mention but sell via the classified add with offers format! Stops the majority of idiots and time wasters that way 👍👍
P.S. do you have a reserve set for your current Silverstone car auction?
‘It’s absolutely gorgeous here, so quiet’ ….rocks up i a straight piped 760 V12 🤣
Thank you for the video, my experience selling my wife's BMW was somewhat different, put on ebay at 9am one morning sold in 20 minutes to a trader who I pick up at our train station and sold the same day. It was a one owner with 18,000 miles and eight years old.
Sorry to hear you been played it’s amazing how many people have to much time on there hands
Sorry to hear that Joel. You should sell it to one of your subscribers, I am sure no one here will let you down. Or, if I may suggest, why not raffle off your BMW? Put a price on every single ticket, set a limit, choose the winner. Easy-peasy 😊
He said the 'buyer' was a subscriber
I have never had a problem selling a car on eBay. Reason being?? Never auction. Ask fair price, list as classified you cannot go wrong then, same as selling on autotrader.
This is a sign to keep the 7! Love the content and also a beautiful machine that's never let you down. Please, sell something else 😂
I always use the classified option on eBay and never had an issue using that feature. I’ve sold around 50 cars using that. Never used the bid feature though. Certainly had my share of time wasters though and absolutely ridiculous questions like this one:
Buyer: does this have a full MOT?
Me: yes
Buyer: ah ok, nevermind.
Me: erm… I could try make it a fail an MOT if that makes it better for you 🤣
Tried selling a car on eBay years ago and I certainly wouldn’t do it again. The winning bidder; a gentleman in Nigeria was a very persistent scammer using someone else’s genuine eBay account. He just needed the money sending over for his plane ticket as he could only pay me in gold. Apparently the wife’s Vauxhall Astra was a very sought after car in Lagos and he was shipping it back as a present for his mother.
I just hope his Mother wasn’t disappointed as unfortunately she missed out on the Astra as we part exchanged it, Sorry 😞
That exhaust!!!!! Love it!
Joel, you seem like a good guy, do not be butthurt about this situation, you have learnt the lesson, just move on! And the magic word for today is... DEPOSIT.
For me....use ebay to advertise the car with a fixed price. This helps to reach a bigger audience. Interested parties can come and view it. Of course you will have to deal with the stupid ebay emails from people who are not genuine about buying the car and want a swap for a Toyota camry with 180,000 miles and 500 quid. Dont put it to auction ss there are too many wannabes and scammers and you will end up losing your time, effort and money. I think its a common story you have and many people have experienced this, me included. But I have to admit its an awesome motor and I would love it! I'm off to Silverstone auctions now! Thanks for a great video 👍
Lovely car bud just found your channel keep up the great content 👍 👏
Its a famous car, the Great Jayemm started this journey & thankfully you picked up the baton & continued with this amazing machine!, keep the 760Li take off the straight pipes sell the Porsche/ Mercedes , great channel Joel keep the BMW & Range Rover !
This puts me off putting my VW transporter on ebay
One scam to look out for when selling on eBay goes like this; The car sells for a good price. The buyer just doesn't respond to messages. You re-list the car and now you're open to slightly lower offers. The car sells. Buyer doesn't respond. Endless loop. Meanwhile "someone else" contacts you interested in buying the car outside of eBay....
I feel your pain Joel, sold something recently on flea bay for a couple of grand and the buyer went silent on me. You’re right, you just have to move on and hope not everyone is a………..🤷♂️
I think it's one thing to offer to pick someone up from the local train station..it's another to pick them up from the airport (as you saying fuel, parking costs, time for people to get from plane).
Lovely back drop, I’m Aylesbury based and we go we cover woods regularly! The world is full of time wasters, eBay and marketplace are full of them! There is also genuine buyers too shame the bad ruin it for the good!
Take a deposit before travelling, you soon find out if they’re serious
On the positive side you got it back!. You'll never have to say I shouldn't have sold it
Your too trusting.
Get a none returnable deposit.
Get their mobile number from the buyer.
Confirm their flight time.
Don't go to the airport & waste your time, until they text & say they have landed.
Well the options you came up with are perfect, all three are a very strong possibility 🤣
Best to only sell stuff on Ebay if you have an address to send it to. I've found that when people are awkward over their commitments, then when I tell them I will visit to resolve things, the matter is quickly sorted.
If you could find out who it “really” was and then personally deliver the car to them it would probably make quite an interesting video…especially if they are at work and their boss is also in…😉 Ebay is a bit frustrating when (in my experience) they seem to take the buyers side all the time…
eBay has a lot of scammer sellers, so to get over the problem of people not getting what they paid for, etc, eBay gives buyer protection guarantees. It may seem like eBay takes the buyer's side all the time, but it's the nature of the site. The specialist car auction sites confirm identities, addresses, bank details, and have the credit/debit card details of all bidders, etc. There's much more trust in the sellers, the accuracy of the car descriptions, and the bidders. eBay and the specialist car auction sites operate significantly different selling models from each other.
Unfortunately, there are many people who love to muck people about, whether it's something you are giving away on Freecycle, or a car worth thousands. Doesn't matter what platform you use either. Sorry you've had this experience, but at least you still have the car and the loss is small. Good luck with finding a genuine buyer
I had the same issue with ebay - Good luck with the sale - Mega Motor and great value too. This car will definitely hold its value short term and I'm certain it will increase long term.
Collab with Alex and CT with ‘mega spec’ - the epitome of s classes IMO
Sorry to hear it buddy, frustrating as hell, amazing how many morally bankrupt people there are in the world. I had a similar experience last week trying to do a good thing giving away a kitchen as opposed to chucking it. Two no-shows having agreed time and place!
Sorry about this Joel, best of luck with the new auction site. Would love to own it, but can't afford it, so therefore won't bid unlike Scott🤣🤣 unfortunately eBay is full of idiots, one of the worst platforms out there. All the best though, love the content regardless 👍
Joel, I think the key takeaway here is don't commit any money or time in supporting buyers getting to wherever the vehicle is based. It sounds a little harsh, I know, but remember that it's a commercial transaction - it's up to them to make and fund all logistical arrangements. You're a good guy but in these sorts of circumstances, put your business head on and wait for them to turn up. In the event that they don't, you're just left with a degree of disappointment and frustration but that's the extent of your loss.
Just subbed never realised I wasn’t but have now great channel👍
just view his ebay profile and see if he lists anything for sale and his feedbacks to see if any new activity, know if hes dead or buying some other car that way lol
How much did the z4 go for? I sold a similar one recently. A guy paid a deposit when drunk then backed out, another guy wanted me to buy him a ferry ticket from Ireland. Sold it eventually thankfully
Love these BMW series 7. At least you didn't let your car to a scamer and loose your money. I did just that, somehow he showed he sent the money via bank transfer. I let him stupidly have the car. It was weekend so I thought the money go through on Monday. No contact from him and police didn't do much. I never do that again.
I learnt a long time ago, never put yourself out or change your plans for them. Never get out of your armchair to pick them up from the station or airport until they call to say they are there. I then say ok I’ll be with you in about 20 minutes. I have wasted far too many hours waiting for time wasters. You are young and will learn. Lol
Thats some serious leg room!
Always found it funny that BMW fitted the same mirrors to the 3-series as the 7-series
I feared this would happen. A classified ad would have been better.
You did refer to Scotland as your “favourite 3rd world country”. Probably shouldn’t have pissed off the Scot’s
There needs to be a system where if the person that wins the auction decides to not actually pay, they at least get charged a fixed amount (even just a fiver or tenner would probably do). I know then the person would probably just refuse to pay that fixed amount. But the way they could do it is so in order to actually make a bid, the amount gets taken out of their account there and then and gets put on hold until the auction is finished. If they don’t win, they get their money back. If they do win auction and actually pay, they get their money back
1000% agreed but eBay won't do that because it's a barrier for entry for buyers and therefore revenue
Sorry to hear what happened to you Joel, but best wishes for next time 👍
just watching this - at the age of 68 and thinking: damned if I'd have set off to HRW without a deposit of some sorts - but I had to lean my lessons along the way.. it's called 'experience'
Mate, what a nightmare. Scot is a dick. Every time I sell something on eBay, I have to list it several times because the winning bidder decides not to pay. eBay just seems to attract nob heads. Such a shame, as it's a great idea in theory.
Stories like this about eBay Car Auctions are commonplace. I have been on ebay for over twenty one years now and on the whole it has been a pleasant experience. Just one of two folks annoyingly failed to complete or deliver. That with over 3,000 transactions and 100% positive feedback..
I have not yet ever listed a complete car. I have sold a few via Facebook Car enthusiast Groups. Often simply mentioning my car had just passed its MoT with a picture to have one or two folks show an interest to let them know if I ever decide to sell.
I plan to list one of my MGs using the eBay Classified option rather than an auction early in the New Year when Christmas expenses are a fading memory. Things like that make a difference. The car is worth only about £3000 but is a nice example and drives surprisingly well. Finally, not familiar with eBay charges or costs for car auctions or classified for sale listings. How do they work and what charges apply will help me decide best option?
If his wife was sleeping with his boss 🤣 love it
List it on a classified auction on eBay. Car doesn't get sold and removed from eBay until the money is in you hand. Much better than listing via eBay's auction.
Hate it when anyone, let alone super nice people like yourself get f.. .. d over. Happens all too often, sadly. But take heart, your unfortunate experience is something your many friends on your channel can learn from - don't sell cars on eBay. I have no doubt a genuine buyer will not be long in coming. Meanwhile, keep up the great work. You are a natural communicator and your videos get better all the time. Go well!
I feel your frustration, I recently sold my Jeep on eBay…over a week ago. Buyer replied, “oh, I see I’ve just won a jeep “…😂 like it’s bloody free ! Anyway, like getting blood out of a stone, we’ve been messaging him trying to establish a pick up time…, his response was, it’s for a client of mine, so I will arrange a flatbed truck to pick it up….absolutely fine, still waiting…still no money transfer…I have no idea what “legal rights they have if I message them to say I have found another “Keen” buyer that’s ready to pick up now. It’s all very frustrating, and I don’t want to be on the receiving end of a claim battle….
Hopefully your bmw has found a new forever home.
Steve.
Rotten! Cannot understand why people do this. Very informative video, thank you and good luck with current auction. V12s are a bit too expensive for me, unfortunately...
I would never have gone to meet him without having spoken on the phone.
I’ve purchased 5 cars on eBay without any hiccups. I looked on UA-cam for info on selling since I am interested in selling mine on ebay.
After watching your video and reflecting on what was different in my experience as a buyer, I saw that none of mine were auctions. I think those are a waste of time. List the car with “Buy it Now” and $500 non refundable deposit if they don’t come within 3 days. If they don’t come, you keep the $500.
All 'Con artists' seem genuine, J.
From 2002 to 2015 between myself and my mother in law we bought and sold (privately) nearly 250k worth of cars, vans and campers without any hassle.....but I wouldn’t do it now.
A shame but at least you get another video demo out of it!
Would be glad to buy it myself, it's actually a really cool car and for the price you get so much (sure, if you're ok with the high running cost), it's a shame I'm not in the UK, well maybe not for my bank account.
I’ve sold all my cars, vans and motorbikes on eBay with no problems whatsoever.
I wouldn't sell anything of value on ebay. Not as an auction anyway. Ebay care about only one thing. Ebay. If I were to sell a car on ebay, it would be as a classified, setting the price a little above what I really wanted, and invite people to come and view and make 'sensible' offers. Then select the best offer, which is not just about price, but also about whether the buyer is worthy and/or is likely to pay without messing and won't stalk you if the car later goes wrong. It is also really good fun seeing how imaginative people can be in phrasing an absurdly low offer, e.g 'I'll take it off your hands for £500 pounds mate, cash'. I mean if you offer something derisory often enough, eventually someone will accept, right?
Car looks beautiful! I'm sure someone will love it. I would normally be interested myself, but it's just the wrong time, as is often the way.
I can't even muster a smile at what happened on eBay. It's simply not funny.
I have actually not followed through myself on one occasion. Buyer's remorse happens. What can I say? Other than, I paid the buyer's premium, which was more than 800 quid, offered profuse apologies, and felt really really bad, not least because the seller is at best back where he started, but with a sour taste. And maybe he'd already spent the money or was otherwise desperate for it?
However, I understand the temptation when you've been watching an auction for a car that's desirable and rare to place a bid at the last minute for fear of losing out. I did and immediately knew I'd done the wrong thing for me, a very ill-considered thing, and had created unnecessary hassles and stresses for all involved parties.
And I admit that I've had the temptation to bid a few times since.
I suspect buyer's remorse is happening more and more, as selling cars by auction has become more and more a thing during Covid, with new auction sites being launched, and a seemingly never-ending number of tempting cars being offered every single day.
When it was basically eBay, trade auctions, and a big specialist auction every now and then it was rather different.
Now there are specialist auction sites with continuous auctions and emails being sent out by some not just daily but multiple times a day.
It's quite different than searching for a specific something on eBay, or checking out the odd specialist auction. If you are looking for something specific, you end up scanning everything.
Lastly, while the auction house will sue for their fee/buyer's premium, ie, their losses, in the event of a buyer not completing a sale, the seller is not covered for anything else. The idea is that bidders will not want to potentially lose hundreds or thousands of pounds by bidding without an intention to complete a sale. From the seller's point of view, there is no guarantee that a sale will be completed, but there is much less likelihood of being left with any hassles over the auctioneer's fees. For sure, a winning bidder can't get away with just walking away, as is seemingly the case with eBay.
Sounds like the same guy I had on my Mercedes SL . Guy was from Edinburgh . I wasted a whole week negotiating with him . Said he had booked a flight so I didn’t bother with a deposit and turned down another buyer. Moral always get a deposit!,,
Only sold one car on ebay. A mk3 mondeo that was for spares. The amount of idiots that contacted me was ridiculous. People offering swaps for phones and ipads. Just stupid. Luckily a legit buyer bought but not sure id go down that route again if I were selling a half decent car.
If the guy was doing this for a prank he's got the attention he was after by you making this video.
With large purchases ebay should have a account checking facility to ensure buyers have the funds and not just bidding because they have a hard on
RAF Halton range in use !!
I'm wondering whether drink (or worse) at the "buyers" elbow whilst on their keyboard might have coloured their judgement and they later realised that they'd been really very silly to bid. It would take a superhuman effort to 'fess up to that scenario. Just putting this forward as a possibility. Loved the video by the way, now subscribed.
Keep it, such a lovely car. Not many like that out there
essentially you're stuck with a petrol guzzler
Can’t seem to attach a photo here but if you look at the “buyer’s” feedback they’ve done this already
Put a car up for sale a couple of weeks ago, had someone turn up and say they’ll get back to me… 6 hours later - a text: “Sorry, won’t be buying the car as we need a 7 seater”…
Why did you come to look at a car with just 5 seats then 😂😂
It’s a pain but it means you have an excuse to have it a little longer 😁
If some doesn't respond to your messages I thought that would tell you something
Unfortunately there are muppets everywhere probably operating from their mother’s back bedroom. I’ve sold small ticket items on eBay but a little bit cautious about cars now... good luck with a proper auction this time around.
Feel for you Joel, eBay is a nightmare for selling cars, time wasters and costs to advertise etc.
It’s a lovely car though and there’s always an arse for every seat.
Unlucky for that Joel, hopefully second time lucky. Or is it a sign to keep it?!! ;) eBay is fine to sell a car on btw, as long as you do a classified advert you can't get messed about so much as no one is bidding.
Not surprised at your experience TBH , I used to buy off eBay occasionally and got stung a couple of times with electricals , the returns is a nightmare , now I won't use eBay at all for anything over a tenner and that's if I can't find it locally. I only use eBay as a reference point now for bigger items like cars and motorbikes , find the website from it and go from there , bypass eBay and their BS system . Good luck with the sale , I fear that lovely BMW 760 has limited appeal though .
There is less genuine people than we think...I could not do this to anyone....
same happend when i tried to sell my van , winning bidder just didnt want it ... still had to pay fee,s as well ....traded it in for a new one now
A more appropriate title is
I ignored all reasonable advice and tried to sell my car on ebay.
Gumtree and marketplace exist for a reason
Been messed about 2 times in the last month, Well fed up.
Maybe is something like high speed competytion or simmilar will be a good solution for you?
Ebay seriously needs to look at giving sellers more rights especially with vehicles, and I agree if the buyer is fraudulant ebay should pay at least a percentage of the sale price, at the moment Ebay wins whatever happens and they need to take responsibility for fraud on their site.