Both bikes used to be identical! How will they compare?

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  • Опубліковано 17 тра 2022
  • Do expensive bike parts make that much of a difference on our identical Polygon Siskiu D5's?
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  • @macpatterson9750
    @macpatterson9750 2 роки тому +147

    Props to you for spending a ton of your own money on making an actually good high low series unlike another channel that just shilled their sponsors products and didnt do budget parts any justice

    • @tannerschroth1788
      @tannerschroth1788 2 роки тому +2

      He prob made it back and then some from the videos

    • @bnoc
      @bnoc Рік тому +1

      preach!!

  • @GokkunGuru
    @GokkunGuru 2 роки тому +93

    Just when Chad was showing some humbleness, he shows a carbon frame as a cliffhanger. Awesome man! Just brilliant. I love Chad. I'm one myself!

    • @th_js
      @th_js 2 роки тому

      @@sawyerbarnes7439 When you swear so much that autocorrect automatically corrects "shot" to "shit"

  • @flybyguy1450
    @flybyguy1450 2 роки тому +109

    Really surprised the Z2 didn't work well for you, it's been fantastic for me.

    • @nebnollock5198
      @nebnollock5198 2 роки тому +19

      Likewise, mine started feeling horrible about a year into use but was fixed with a full rebuild.
      Wonder if his fork just needs a full rebuild

    • @MasterKeith
      @MasterKeith 2 роки тому +11

      Yea same. I have z2 on my trail bike and they are great.
      I was surprised Evans didn't come with foam rings because mine certainly did. No foam rings is the penny pinching thing suntour usually does.

    • @jacobg130productions
      @jacobg130productions 2 роки тому +7

      Marzocchi is for the Freeride/extremely hard riding crowd, I would know, I’m one of them with a 170mm green spring Z1 on my hardtail. Stiffer and more durable overall.

    • @jacobg130productions
      @jacobg130productions 2 роки тому +7

      @@konakid548 no he doesn’t. Each rider has a different preference when it comes to parts and components.

    • @ericjonpo
      @ericjonpo 2 роки тому +6

      I'm surprised he's the only blogger/reviewer to dislike the Marzocchi and to actually push for the expensive = better mindset.
      It was as if everything cheaper has been demonized and typecast.

  • @dimimtb
    @dimimtb 2 роки тому +108

    This was a great series! No shame with that walk, stuff looked scary as hell. Now I need to figure out how to save up for carbon hoops for my Optic LOL.

    • @willjones5816
      @willjones5816 2 роки тому +10

      Walk of sanity always beats bleeding to urgent care. I speak from experience.

    • @mctg9043
      @mctg9043 2 роки тому

      why would you buy an optic 🤢

    • @dimimtb
      @dimimtb 2 роки тому +1

      @@mctg9043 out of curiosity why? it's been a great bike.

    • @mctg9043
      @mctg9043 2 роки тому +2

      @@dimimtb They're crap value. If you disregard the price then sure it might be a good bike but the prices for what you get are over the top. Especially for a 125mm travel bike.

  • @nofacemtb9481
    @nofacemtb9481 2 роки тому +12

    Law of diminishing returns definitely kicked in on the high bike. Furthermore, the low bike did not have "cheap" parts......it had "less expensive," quality parts.

  • @TonersR6
    @TonersR6 Рік тому

    As someone who's been researching budget entry level bikes for a while now, all I can say is thank you. I binged this entire high/low series and it's exactly the kind of information I've been looking for as a beginner. I hope you do more videos/series like this. Thank you so much.

  • @celticknyt
    @celticknyt 2 роки тому +7

    Awesome series and thanks so much for all the effort, very well put together. I would love to see a "Sweet Spot" series where you compare and test the major components across the price range and find the point where performance gains are largely unnoticeable for a typical rider.

  • @Adroit1911
    @Adroit1911 2 роки тому +2

    The editing on this video is pretty well done. It's been fun watching your saga grow! Nicely done!!

  • @cstavrou74
    @cstavrou74 2 роки тому

    Another great video Evan! I'm still appreciative that you introduced me to Vitus bikes. I just finished building up an Escarpe frame. My first carbon framed bike! It never stops! Keep the videos coming!

  • @derekhawkins5174
    @derekhawkins5174 2 роки тому +4

    So glad I got to be a part of this Evan, keep on shredding!🤙

  • @ZenoGy
    @ZenoGy 2 роки тому +2

    Every episode of this series has been informative as well as entertaining . The breathtaking scenic beauty was a wonderful finale . Thank you for the time and detailed care you put into it .

  • @HavokTheorem
    @HavokTheorem 2 роки тому +2

    Really enjoyed this Evan. Top tier content from a channel with

  • @ichor20
    @ichor20 2 роки тому

    Just bought my first gravel bike last week. Watching reviews for the bike i purchased this channel came in recommended. Been enjoying it greatly and now subscribed.

  • @Todd66
    @Todd66 2 роки тому +19

    Pretty epic scenery, that must have been a awesome day. Really glad you had the save instead of a rocky fail. The ultra high end is too Gucci for the most part…but they do have a nice resale value, so it’s not a total money burn. Pretty fun series. Your videos are quality enough and you are good enough in front of the camera to make a little longer vids if you ever wanted to. Remember we are all here for content, so the more content the better. Regardless though, nice job. 👍🏻
    This series was fun, even though I wish the videos were longer. I think you have more than earned a subscriber, so I’m in.

  • @caseys_cozy_garage
    @caseys_cozy_garage 2 роки тому

    This was legit the best series in biking of this history of UA-cam. Man your effort really showed here! I love it and thank you for making it

  • @XMrPineappleX
    @XMrPineappleX 2 роки тому +3

    Big fan of the series! It actually helped guide me through my new bike purchase and I'm glad I went with the fox 34 fork. Keep up the awesome content!

  • @CalebGrabendike
    @CalebGrabendike 2 роки тому +28

    Great series! Really enjoyed watching these.

  • @oliviacaputo2639
    @oliviacaputo2639 2 роки тому +7

    This is exactly what I wanted the pink bike series to be! Thanks for the fantastic series!

  • @ald1389
    @ald1389 2 роки тому +1

    One of my favorite youtube series EVER. Great job Evan! You should be very proud dude

  • @DcCock
    @DcCock 2 роки тому +4

    What a great series. Sometimes the algorithm comes through and recommends something great and this was one of those times.

  • @erichbachman7363
    @erichbachman7363 2 роки тому

    Absolutely the best low vs high end bike comparison out there. Enjoyed every single video so much, thanks!

  • @larryisaak6431
    @larryisaak6431 2 роки тому +1

    I think it would be really cool to see a build with lesser known/ used brands high end suntour, dvo, Maggura, micro shift, trp, etc. I really loved this series keep up the grind

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  2 роки тому

      That's a good idea I like that! Thanks Larry!

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  2 роки тому

      Actually that's a sick series "Off Brand series"

  • @hatemsoliman8642
    @hatemsoliman8642 2 роки тому +1

    Your videos are getting better and better every time, keep up the great work

  • @nosreuter
    @nosreuter 2 роки тому +2

    High five for a very well executed series 🖐 Hope it will continue to generate subscriber growth for quite some time!
    Love that outro 😂

  • @michibarbarossa3060
    @michibarbarossa3060 2 роки тому

    This series was some really good mountainbike content. Keep up the amazing and for the viewer valuable work!

  • @josecatugal1028
    @josecatugal1028 2 роки тому

    Be'n following for the earlier episodes...
    Perfectly done....!
    The choice of bike is perfect for low budget...
    Upgradesis based of common options available.....
    Side by side comparison is objective...
    Your a big help for us beginers....
    More power to your chanel....!

  • @alexfylyk7409
    @alexfylyk7409 2 роки тому +2

    Great series, I can imagine how much time and editing was done, keep doing your story of riding and progression

  • @acjonny9364
    @acjonny9364 2 роки тому

    Really nice job on the video, there's so much effort put into it

  • @elwoodkotil2538
    @elwoodkotil2538 2 роки тому

    Stellar effort, build, ride, and video! Thank you!!

  • @mandoquin6817
    @mandoquin6817 Рік тому

    I just binge watched the entire build of your D5. Great videos!

  • @enriqueflores9630
    @enriqueflores9630 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed the series!! Love how you used top of the line new parts vs used good parts!! Can’t wait till the next series comes out!!! Carbon frames???🤔🤔🤔

  • @matthewkelly4107
    @matthewkelly4107 2 роки тому +2

    Great series, thanks for doing this. Id love to see a bit more analysis on the carbon rims, the time difference seems out of this world

  • @nvire5202
    @nvire5202 2 роки тому +2

    I'm kinda sad that the series has ended, loved it!

  • @ianthompson9653
    @ianthompson9653 2 роки тому +5

    Loved this series! Can’t wait for Season 2… 🤞😉

  • @josuevalar6465
    @josuevalar6465 2 роки тому +9

    Funny how the "low" bike is actually a high bike haha

  • @andyweekly4718
    @andyweekly4718 2 роки тому +1

    Loved the series… good work Evan.

  • @Paul-zu1hx
    @Paul-zu1hx 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for all your wrok and videos. Keep them coming.👍😀

  • @MrSupermugen
    @MrSupermugen 2 роки тому +1

    Man, you deserve all the rewards for this great series, you put the Pinkbike series to shame - You even took out the "other rider" variable.
    Massive ups to you Dude, well done.

  • @astralzombie
    @astralzombie 2 роки тому

    Love it, stoked to see what you get up to next!

  • @jeffgiles4330
    @jeffgiles4330 2 роки тому

    Loved this series, Evan. Way to go!

  • @Donovangulya
    @Donovangulya 2 роки тому

    Im surprised I only noticed this now I started whatching your videos when you were at around 16k now your at 35k you have done an amazing job at pumping out amazing content 👍

  • @IImperviious
    @IImperviious 2 роки тому

    LMAO, absolutely love the Donut Hi-Lo format (music and all) being applied to mountain biking! Great series!

  • @JasonFoxLCB
    @JasonFoxLCB 2 роки тому

    Very cool series. I have a stock (save for the cockpit/pedals) Polygon D7. I took it to Bentonville last week and it did fine. I was, by far, the limiting factor.

  • @dillonlovehonda
    @dillonlovehonda 2 роки тому

    Loved this series! Very well done!

  • @emilymonteforte8878
    @emilymonteforte8878 2 роки тому

    I just remember when I subbed at 3k. The videos have just gotten so good. Keep up the good work

  • @MrLodziarz
    @MrLodziarz 2 роки тому

    It was a super entertaining series to watch. Great job !

  • @jklmnop943
    @jklmnop943 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing finale Evan. Your videos are really great to watch. Looking forward to more!

  • @eric9432
    @eric9432 2 роки тому

    Great little series you did here keep it up. I will say that I have hated that Monarch rear shock. Best thing I have ever down was get rid of that thing. Always gave me issues and never felt right.

  • @matbike778
    @matbike778 2 роки тому +1

    so happy when this came out cant wait for next vid

  • @Joopyter724
    @Joopyter724 2 роки тому

    How have I never seen this channel before
    Its just bike Donut and I love it
    You even use the same music

  • @bikesonline
    @bikesonline 2 роки тому

    Awesome series Evan! So stoked we were able to be a part of it :)

  • @t_to_the_homschen7270
    @t_to_the_homschen7270 2 роки тому

    I loved this series. Was the reason I subscribed to your Chanel. Your are not the only one who is saying that the sram x01 and xx1 are having ghostshiftproblems like sram nx/sx. I have the sram nx group set. Thought about upgrading some things into gx and x01 but probably I'm going to buy a 12 speed shimano drivetrain over upgrading my sram groupset....

  • @tyg5265
    @tyg5265 2 роки тому

    This series was awesome. Keep up the great work!!!!

  • @dylan-5287
    @dylan-5287 2 роки тому

    This was an awesome series. Love the videos!

  • @pedroazocar5080
    @pedroazocar5080 2 роки тому

    Such an amazing video, lot of work on it!

  • @vashusan1984
    @vashusan1984 2 роки тому

    Great job man, this was a blast to watch!

  • @kennygraves489
    @kennygraves489 2 роки тому

    Well said on just picking parts and showing how good mid grade and or used parts can be

  • @misters9975
    @misters9975 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this series !! Personally I think some of the tests were subjective but I learned a lot and am super glad you found out the foam ring problem

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  2 роки тому

      Oh yeah for sure. So much is subjective. I'm glad I did the test loop for at least a little objective data, but even that is so so data due to the variables

    • @misters9975
      @misters9975 2 роки тому +1

      agreed, + there really is no way to have a control in these kinda tests but it was entertaining and I learned a lot !

  • @Thomas_Andreas_Bell
    @Thomas_Andreas_Bell 2 роки тому

    15:04 play in slo mo! He was smiling the entire time😂 I would have been shocked😂

  • @martinupchurch5360
    @martinupchurch5360 2 роки тому

    thanks for the series Evan, can't wait for more.

  • @Andy-co6pn
    @Andy-co6pn 2 роки тому

    Great stuff, especially the editing 👏

  • @NeutralGenericUser
    @NeutralGenericUser 2 роки тому

    Amazing video, Evan! Your editing skill are so good! The amount of effort you put into these videos is so appreciated. I'm glad your channel is getting so much recognition!

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you man! You've been around for so long, thanks for sticking around and glad you could see the growth. I love the edit process, especially once the music gets added

    • @NeutralGenericUser
      @NeutralGenericUser 2 роки тому

      @@EvansMTBSaga It genuinely made my day that you recognized my username 😭 Thank you so much! I’ll be around for all your future videos too. Thank you for the many hours of entertainment 🙏

  • @Manwichman
    @Manwichman 2 роки тому

    Great vid Evan. Your channel will do very well if you keep on having fun with this... Don't let the "pressure" of making this a job near you down and don't be greedy for gain. At the end of the day, if you have fun making content and tinkering just keep doing that! We recognize your potential and just do it cuz you like to, not because you have to. If you ever feel pressure remember this comment bud👍🙋😎

  • @peterpowers4851
    @peterpowers4851 Рік тому +1

    This was a really cool series. Nice to see where it's worth spending big bucks vs, just mid tear parts.

  • @Medevil9908
    @Medevil9908 2 роки тому +1

    Really liked the series. Great job overall.

  • @cglasford1
    @cglasford1 Рік тому

    this was a cool video, I just bought my wife the D7 and its cool to see what are some useful upgrades. The D7 seems very capable straight out of the box.

  • @chrishemming9976
    @chrishemming9976 2 роки тому

    Appreciate the effort in this series ✌🏻

  • @rehmsmeyer
    @rehmsmeyer 2 роки тому +5

    I love how these videos are always the same, but kind of different.

  • @2wheelshandlebars769
    @2wheelshandlebars769 2 роки тому +2

    Yoooooo loved the series my man! I think it could be cool to do a series where you compare different levels of parts from the same manufacturer. Like low tier shimano components vs. high tier or rockshox and so on! Keep up the good work!

  • @donnovicki9771
    @donnovicki9771 2 роки тому

    Never feel ashamed. Feel good that you got through it and live to ride another day. Good series.

  • @jceddy1
    @jceddy1 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed the series!

  • @ljekatt
    @ljekatt 2 роки тому

    Thanks for a great series!

  • @Jinedan
    @Jinedan 2 роки тому

    Terrific series and I love the Little Rascals-type outro music too 😀

  • @andreifranca
    @andreifranca 2 роки тому

    Insane serie!! Congrats!

  • @cedricclamaran
    @cedricclamaran 2 роки тому

    Gonna watch It later. Loved this series

  • @ianburke2490
    @ianburke2490 2 роки тому +1

    Great series! Fixed everything that was wrong with the PB series, so glad I found this as a helpful resource on real world upgrade choices.

  • @mtbadventuresnikuyajay8216
    @mtbadventuresnikuyajay8216 2 роки тому

    Great series! More power!

  • @GokkunGuru
    @GokkunGuru 2 роки тому

    Excellent series and more excellent conclusion to it.

  • @kennykendall5709
    @kennykendall5709 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video, your best by far! I am envious of your proximity to Sedona.

  • @danpreston8898
    @danpreston8898 2 роки тому

    Great series 👏 I've got a d7 and it's a great bike. Currently in the process of installing a works components angled headset to slacken by 2°. Be great if you could do a demo on this too

  • @Knitterfest
    @Knitterfest 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed the series, I'm not even a mountainbiker. Although some upgrades seemed unreasonable to me (eg 2k brakes).
    I'd like to suggest something for the next season (after Chads carbon project). You'll build up 2 bikes again but with a limited budget. One bike may only use new parts from retail whilst the other bike may only use second hand parts from ebay, marketplace or similar (allowed to negotiate)

  • @ShreddySteve
    @ShreddySteve 2 роки тому

    Awesome series Evan!

  • @stevenclease6500
    @stevenclease6500 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed this series. I do enjoy having a bike that is more capable than I am and I'm lucky enough to be able to buy good quality parts. Several times I've been sorely tempted to spend money on carbon or other exotic materials but I've realised that spending a ton of money on something that is often only grams lighter really isn't worth it when I could ride the bike I have more and loose some weight.

  • @shepardlivingston2371
    @shepardlivingston2371 2 роки тому +1

    Love the videos, Evan!

  • @izumimiyamura8999
    @izumimiyamura8999 2 роки тому

    The best series ever! can't wait for another series.

  • @MAECTPOua
    @MAECTPOua 2 роки тому

    Great series! It really is mostly about the thing that`s inbetween the saddle and the grips )

  • @kevinv.5375
    @kevinv.5375 2 роки тому

    Nice Series man, every video was fun to watch. That carbon frame looks like a yeti sb115?

  • @Biking_with_Akiva
    @Biking_with_Akiva 2 роки тому +1

    That Sedona test ride was sick 🤙🏾💪🏾 that was a great finale 💯

  • @matthewshepherd826
    @matthewshepherd826 2 роки тому

    Brilliant series mate 👏

  • @HDTigerProductions
    @HDTigerProductions 2 роки тому

    Fantastic series man!

  • @Jacob99174
    @Jacob99174 2 роки тому +1

    Keep this going, Evan!

  • @kianveiser8697
    @kianveiser8697 2 роки тому +3

    Love this, 10x better then Bikbike's version and funny that you got the Idea off of Donut Media, I watch their VIdeos too. You could maybe do another one of these, but this time it would be low vs mid. so similarly cheap parts compared to mid-range parts that are not so overkill. That would actually be quite helping for making buying decisions. When I looked at your final conclusion I kinda thought sth. in the middle would have been the best. I am ready to spend more than 400 Bucks on a Fork, but I dont need a grip two cartridge ocashima coating. What you could also do is used vs. new comparing new cheap parts to similarly priced higher end used parts. Here you could also include how to determine wether used parts are in good condition and worth buying. I hope this helps develop and grow your channel, because I absoluteley love your videos and I am looking forward to seeing more similar ones. (Sorry for my most-probably horrible spelling and grammar, I am a 15-year old german and spelling has never been my kinda thing)

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  2 роки тому +1

      Great English! My wife recommended do Low vs Mid vs High. I think she's trying to kill me 🤣 all those were great ideas! If you were in America Id give you a job!

  • @nic_the_hunter4296
    @nic_the_hunter4296 2 роки тому

    I loved this series I hope they make a similar série later

  • @zamrudyfarid2258
    @zamrudyfarid2258 2 роки тому

    Best low high comparison video I noticed so far 👍🏼

  • @GGGMotovlog
    @GGGMotovlog 2 роки тому

    The amount of effort in making this video back and forth changing tshirt. Amazes me. Great video.

    • @EvansMTBSaga
      @EvansMTBSaga  2 роки тому

      Thanks it was a lot! Not sure I'd do it again without another person 🤣

  • @nathanweidkamp8385
    @nathanweidkamp8385 2 роки тому +1

    as far as im aware, shock fade actually causes the shock to give LESS support, you may be experiencing packing on the low bike, im sure you know what i mean. Super entertaining series!

  • @MTBAlex
    @MTBAlex 2 роки тому

    Dude! Awesome video

  • @TuroVJ
    @TuroVJ 11 місяців тому

    This is legit a Hi/Lo episode but instead of cars it’s mountains bikes and I love it!! 😂🤝

  • @mtb_mechanic
    @mtb_mechanic 2 роки тому

    You should do a test where it's low end vs high end of the same components, like a pike select vs pike ultimate, or a nx/gx vs xx1, gx axs vs xx1 axs. This would be very cool!

  • @Drago0900
    @Drago0900 2 роки тому

    For the slippery brake levers you could get some lever grips. I run them on all my stuff.