I got a ninja 650 a couple months ago, and I love it, but I can't deny that 4 cylinder engines are waaaaaaaaaaaay better in performance and sound, that scream at higher revs sends chills down my spine
@@skad_ ouch. That's like almost $700 USD. I pay about $430ish for my Z400. I'm guessing you probably opted for higher limits on liability, medical, and property damage coverage?
@@FoAmY99 yes but not only that, the 600s class is labelled as "high risk" so prices are higher, even higher than 1000s, my dad pays around 200/400€ a year for his 1000, can't really remember well now. Also, here in Italy we have a law that allows the parent to have their son to pay less for some insurance reasons, otherwise I would've paid around 800€/year
Both great bikes, but also very different engine types, 2 cylinder vs 4. Cool comparison, thanks. Really nice presentation as usual. On my '21 Ninja 650, I can get just over 200 miles from a full 4 gallon tank till .2 left, with average freeway/backroads riding each time, which is really good for a 419 lb. (with fuel) non-abs version bike. I've seen reports of 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, but top speed is about 126 mph, 131 maybe down a long hill. It hits 100 fast, but 120 takes over 10+ seconds to reach I'd say. Really fun bike, and the TFT display is nice too.
@@notno.11 Yes bro it is faster than 650 in every gear from 1-6 I know both bikes gearing are.. Ninja 650 goes 74-105-133-163-188-213 and Ninja 400 goes 76-107-136-166-191-216
@@nelocinco3836 bro Ninja 650 locks up at 213 kph how come 221? 😂 only if it's moded and the 400's 5th gear ends up at 191 and 6th gear ends up at 216 kmph
Wife has a Ninja 650, I have a CBR650F. Engine in the Honda is much sportier feeling and the bike feels very planted at speed. Downsides are its a bit heavier and in traffic you need to give it some revs or risk stalling. Ninja 650 is lower seat height, lighter, all the controls feel lighter and its easier to ride around in the city. Engine is rough in sound and power delivery is a bit jerky, and very on/off at slower speeds, but you do have low down torque so you can pull away just with the clutch. Wouldnt bother with an exhaust on the ninja as its just gonna make a bad sounding engine louder. Akra on the honda makes it sound amazing. Honda suspension is also firmer and better damped than Ninja, Ninja dives quite a lot under braking but overall more comfortable as a commuter and easier to handle in town. The Honda is a bit more aggressive/sporty posture and the CBR650R has been made more aggresive still (but neither are full sports bike). I bought the Honda for the engine - inline 4s sound amazing, power delivery is super smooth and they rev much higher. Was disappointed by the Ninja the first time I rode it, the bike looks great but the engine is like a tractors.
Love your vids, such a deep and thorough analysis that's presented in a great way. Love it! The sound of cbr is superior and hard to resist compared to Ninja's imo.
I really enjoyed this comparison! I had to do a little math to convert from metric though. And thanks for including the sound sample of each bike that really made the comparison complete!
So, what's your pick? The Ninja 650 that offers rideability and comfort, better than any other bikes in its class, or the more sportier CBR650r, a good trade-off between supersport performance and tourer comfort?
I enjoyed the comparison, I am looking at both these as well as the Kawasaki Ninja sx and the new Suzuki gsx 1000. I am 56 years old have ridden sport bikes since they came out. I am looking to replace a Honda ST1300 which is supper heavy, I'm looking to go lighter with a more upright sitting position. Any suggestions would be great and if there are other bikes in this category I appreciate any info....not a fan of a naked bike especially need a windshield in Texas
The problem with the these 2 are they are sp tall. I had a Tiger 850 but with bad knees couldn't hardly get my leg over them. I have ridden Kawasaki 1000 sx and the 650 which fits into what I want pretty good. I am always looking for options though. I gave looked at the Yamaha FJ09 as well but have not ridden it yet. Thanks for replying
Better off getting a clean 2nd hand model of either one of these. They both are super cheap. The CBR F4i is just as much as if not more capable than the current 650. Just no electronic tech. Take the saved cash and put it into performance mods. And if its the Ninja 650 your after which is more beginner friendly, the motor hasn't changed. Used can be found DIRT cheap. Perfect beginner bike. The only thing your paying for is basically the modern looks. The older are less restrictions, easier to free up extra power, etc. After 25yrs of riding on the street/track i promise you your not missing out on any performance with the older ones. My S1000RR which is one of my current bikes, i dont even use or need most of those electronics. For the F4i theres so many aftermarket upgrades but all you really need is a end can, race air filter and fuel controller. Youll smoke that 650 and be more comfortable doing it.
Kawasakos body looks racier but the handle bar position ruins it for me, the hondas are in a perfect place, sportier than a standard not quite super sport.
@@rolanddiaz1974 the cfmoto 450sr is definitely not the best big bike. Way to slow not enough torque the clutch is shit. Compared to a ninja 400 and R3 the 450rs is better but it definitely is not the best out of the big bikes. I have a brand new one and it doesn't come close to my other bikes.
@@marcjhunbarnedo2126not at all. The zx6r is a super sport. Doesn't matter about the motor it's how the power is distributed from thr motor. The zx6r vs 650r isn't the same at all. It would be zx6r vs cbr600rr.
I got a ninja 650 a couple months ago, and I love it, but I can't deny that 4 cylinder engines are waaaaaaaaaaaay better in performance and sound, that scream at higher revs sends chills down my spine
whats your insurance cost like?
@@FoAmY99 Sorry for the late reply, I live in Italy and I pay 660€/year
@@skad_ ouch. That's like almost $700 USD. I pay about $430ish for my Z400. I'm guessing you probably opted for higher limits on liability, medical, and property damage coverage?
@@FoAmY99 yes but not only that, the 600s class is labelled as "high risk" so prices are higher, even higher than 1000s, my dad pays around 200/400€ a year for his 1000, can't really remember well now.
Also, here in Italy we have a law that allows the parent to have their son to pay less for some insurance reasons, otherwise I would've paid around 800€/year
I agree
Both great bikes, but also very different engine types, 2 cylinder vs 4. Cool comparison, thanks. Really nice presentation as usual. On my '21 Ninja 650, I can get just over 200 miles from a full 4 gallon tank till .2 left, with average freeway/backroads riding each time, which is really good for a 419 lb. (with fuel) non-abs version bike. I've seen reports of 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds, but top speed is about 126 mph, 131 maybe down a long hill. It hits 100 fast, but 120 takes over 10+ seconds to reach I'd say. Really fun bike, and the TFT display is nice too.
Ninja 400 has +3 kmph more top speed than Ninja 650
@@wolverine1854 really? I own 400 I never knew I it's faster than 650
@@wolverine1854 Maybe that's the new ZX4R/ZX4RR? The 400 usually goes only up to 191-193 kmh, while the 650 can go up to 212-221kmh.
@@notno.11 Yes bro it is faster than 650 in every gear from 1-6 I know both bikes gearing are.. Ninja 650 goes 74-105-133-163-188-213 and Ninja 400 goes 76-107-136-166-191-216
@@nelocinco3836 bro Ninja 650 locks up at 213 kph how come 221? 😂 only if it's moded and the 400's 5th gear ends up at 191 and 6th gear ends up at 216 kmph
I have the cbr500r currently. Will upgrade to 650r in a couple years. I love that 4 cylinder sound 🔥🔥🔥
Me too mate, i hope i will get this tiny beast!
go for cbr 600 if u like aggressive bike
@@ansterplays640 how uncomfortable is the 600rr?
@@dilly2023 600rr is a supersports bike and is aggressive compared with 650 r
Wife has a Ninja 650, I have a CBR650F.
Engine in the Honda is much sportier feeling and the bike feels very planted at speed. Downsides are its a bit heavier and in traffic you need to give it some revs or risk stalling.
Ninja 650 is lower seat height, lighter, all the controls feel lighter and its easier to ride around in the city. Engine is rough in sound and power delivery is a bit jerky, and very on/off at slower speeds, but you do have low down torque so you can pull away just with the clutch. Wouldnt bother with an exhaust on the ninja as its just gonna make a bad sounding engine louder. Akra on the honda makes it sound amazing.
Honda suspension is also firmer and better damped than Ninja, Ninja dives quite a lot under braking but overall more comfortable as a commuter and easier to handle in town.
The Honda is a bit more aggressive/sporty posture and the CBR650R has been made more aggresive still (but neither are full sports bike).
I bought the Honda for the engine - inline 4s sound amazing, power delivery is super smooth and they rev much higher. Was disappointed by the Ninja the first time I rode it, the bike looks great but the engine is like a tractors.
Thanks for your info!
Appreciate the info… yeah can’t get over the inline 4 sound… wins me over every time!
Thanks for the comment, really helped me out to understand the difference between those two.
Love your vids, such a deep and thorough analysis that's presented in a great way. Love it!
The sound of cbr is superior and hard to resist compared to Ninja's imo.
I wanted a Honda bc it’s a Honda, but I went for the Kawasaki as it’s what I find more practical for me
Excellent format bro, I love this videos.
one of the best comparision videos in the world…keep it up bro…
I really enjoyed this comparison! I had to do a little math to convert from metric though. And thanks for including the sound sample of each bike that really made the comparison complete!
Still Honda 650 lover ❤
So, what's your pick? The Ninja 650 that offers rideability and comfort, better than any other bikes in its class, or the more sportier CBR650r, a good trade-off between supersport performance and tourer comfort?
The CBR650R is one of the most perfectly balanced bikes on the market in my opinion. They also look and sound incredible!
From power to weight ratio I will pick the Honda cbr 650r
I tried both bikes and chose the Honda
And I'm more than happy with everything on the bike especially the sound...cheerz
I truly love your presentation style! 2cyl vs 4cyl but truly no clear winner here 😅
Here CBR 650R any day although I'm not a super huge fan of both the bikes but I like CBR 650R more than Ninja 650
I have the ninja 650 but getting the Honda soon. Great vid
Hi, I know it’s your old comment but by the way did you buy Honda? If yes how did you find it after ninja? Do you like it more?
I've been team green since I could remember, but in this specific instance, there's just no comparison: I'd have the 4 cylinder.
amaizing comparison!
Great Video!
Thanks, it helped me a lot...
CBR❤
I enjoyed the comparison, I am looking at both these as well as the Kawasaki Ninja sx and the new Suzuki gsx 1000. I am 56 years old have ridden sport bikes since they came out. I am looking to replace a Honda ST1300 which is supper heavy, I'm looking to go lighter with a more upright sitting position. Any suggestions would be great and if there are other bikes in this category I appreciate any info....not a fan of a naked bike especially need a windshield in Texas
Versys 650, tracer 700 if you want upright
The problem with the these 2 are they are sp tall. I had a Tiger 850 but with bad knees couldn't hardly get my leg over them. I have ridden Kawasaki 1000 sx and the 650 which fits into what I want pretty good. I am always looking for options though. I gave looked at the Yamaha FJ09 as well but have not ridden it yet. Thanks for replying
Kawa Forever 🖤💚🖤
Thanks for this informative comparison, just what I needed!😊
That cbr sounds badass
Better off getting a clean 2nd hand model of either one of these. They both are super cheap. The CBR F4i is just as much as if not more capable than the current 650. Just no electronic tech. Take the saved cash and put it into performance mods. And if its the Ninja 650 your after which is more beginner friendly, the motor hasn't changed. Used can be found DIRT cheap. Perfect beginner bike. The only thing your paying for is basically the modern looks. The older are less restrictions, easier to free up extra power, etc. After 25yrs of riding on the street/track i promise you your not missing out on any performance with the older ones. My S1000RR which is one of my current bikes, i dont even use or need most of those electronics. For the F4i theres so many aftermarket upgrades but all you really need is a end can, race air filter and fuel controller. Youll smoke that 650 and be more comfortable doing it.
I wish you may create a video comparing kawasaki zx25r with honda cbr250rr. Thanks.
It will be super-amazing if ninja 650 got 4cylinder and it doesn't even have to go that high on the rev. count.
I like Ninja650 because lower fuel confumption and more comfy suit my stye
Ditto.
If you want a good comparison try the zx6R vs cbr 650R
The comparison for zx6r is the cbr 600rr
Naked vs super sport nah 🥵
@@COOLS32401 CBR650R is not naked though
@@nelocinco3836 if the honda on the video yes its naked (fairing/naked sport) if the sport one no. They got the name confused 😂
Honda CB 650r is the naked version and the CBR 650 R is the sport bike veraion
650 all day
That horrible sound of parallel twin is a dealbreaker for me 😢 can’t imagine hearing it every ride
Honda definitely sounds like a Honda, looks like im getting a honda!
Do honda cb 125r vs yamaha mt125 please😊
The ninja can't compete with the sound of the 4 cylinders of the cbr. Not a chance
What type of softwer you are using for?
Kawasakos body looks racier but the handle bar position ruins it for me, the hondas are in a perfect place, sportier than a standard not quite super sport.
Nice
😆 The Ninja sounds like a postman's bike
@bernardpaul3771 🤭
😅😅😅😅
street triple rs 2023 next please
l hope that they have part and thay is not expesive like cf moto ones becouse l plan to buy one of that bikes in Europe
The ninja is better suited for me but the sound of the Honda is so compelling, decisions decisions.
I have 2 650 ninja❤
THE HONDA IS THE MORE SPORTBIKE NICER SOUND MORE REVVING MACHINE NINJA IS MORE COMFY
The CBR engine sound tells you who the winner is...
Cbr650 price is rivaling Z900 in my country...
With inflation and the global economy the way it is for the foreseeable future, no way your paying under 5 figures for a new CBR 650-R
I think this is not a proper comparison, CBR 650R should be compared to a Z66R.
i love honda
Topissimas 😂😂😂😂
It should be ZX6R 2023 vs CBR650R
zx6r vs cbr600rr , 650 different class even cbr used inline 4
IT won't be fair
@@cacauyebaha7519I agree with you there and they say it's unfair. 2 cylinder vs inline 4 like wtf
@@vladutmunteanu8677 what's more unfair is comparing inline 2 to inline 4 even they are in under the same class
those two are from different class bikes.
kawasaki for noobs
cbr650r for pro 9:18
650r everyday over the ninja. Ninja sounds like a wet fart🤣🤣
But the Ninja feels more comfortable.
The bars on the ninja are way too high.
@@no_name4080 versys rr
So you only buy bikes on sound, just worried only about what other people think lol.
Smartest Honda fangirl..
Cringe
@@maalikserebryakov yes, that's what I do. That's all I do. You got me. Congratulations.
il take the honda because it has a BIGGER tyre
cbr is the jack of all trades, the ninja is a joke
Only Kawasaki
CBR650R vs ZX6R, not ninja 650
Why? The better comparison is cbr650r vs ninja 660. And then zx6r vs cbr600rr.
Ofcourse HONDA...
'promo sm'
This is dumb and pointless..comparing apples to oranges.
450sr is the best big bikes
What are you even talking about.
@@Vmoreta1 and what u are arguing about, 450sr is the best of the best
@@rolanddiaz1974 the cfmoto 450sr is definitely not the best big bike. Way to slow not enough torque the clutch is shit. Compared to a ninja 400 and R3 the 450rs is better but it definitely is not the best out of the big bikes. I have a brand new one and it doesn't come close to my other bikes.
First😂
First
Nope this is not right
Can you elaborate? Let me know if there are any mistakes in the video. Thanks!
The power of both bikes are different from engine to horse power you can't compare a in line four to a twin cylinder engine
Try to compare zx6R (636) to cbr 650r that's a good comparison thanks
@@marcjhunbarnedo2126not at all. The zx6r is a super sport. Doesn't matter about the motor it's how the power is distributed from thr motor. The zx6r vs 650r isn't the same at all. It would be zx6r vs cbr600rr.
@@no_name4080he’s right. Are you sending selfies of yourself?
This is not a proper comparison you would need to do the zx6r for the kawasaki