Personally, I would pick the Cbr650r just because you can use it for daily commuting and you can also have a bit of sport-type fun experience. So it's like a solid package of a bike
Have one as my first big bike after getting my full license (UK) in January, done getting in for 5,000 miles, been to the Austrian alps and back. Love every ride on this bike even after 6 hours on autobahns with 2 panniers and a backpack!
@@siamsunsets6464 I don't understand the people who needs all the torque at low rpms, I mean, you drag race every single vehicle in the street? I don't think so... Or you shouldn't... And if you want to "race" you need the top end. I'm a CB650R owner, and I don't have any single problem with "low torque" at low RPMs
I have the CBR650R and its an amazing bike, I have done multiple full day rides in the twistys (I am talking 10 hour plus rides) and not been in any pain after. The bike makes you want to get back on it and hit some more corners no matter how long you have already been riding it that day
@@ChevyCorvetteZif you’re comfortable, and you’re not scared. It’s a perfect beginner bike. The 650R is very good and nimble on the road, easy to manuver, easy to handle, it’s got enough power and you can literally commute on it everyday and everywhere plus it catches a lot of eyes on the road too *you’re hearing this from another happy and proud owner of CBR 650R*
CB650R owner here, i would have picked the CBR650R if only they did a good pain job option for ti. The black isnt that good looking due to all the matt black parts...should have been all gloss black. The red...well its red,, has to many decals all over, sure you can remove most, but not the ones on the tank.
I dig the Ninja. Great price, I do a lot of city riding, and some highway, so I appreciate the low end torque and aeros. Love the dash and LOVE the front end.
Great review! I got back into riding last year after a few year hiatus and I chose a Z650 over the MT07, Z900, MT09, SV650, and the 650s from Honda. I went this route because I started on a 600cc super sport and loved the fun factor, then after 2 600cc bikes, I tried out a Harley Sportster and liked it for comfort, but hated the weight and lack of nimble handling. So when it came to going back to riding, I felt I wanted something that would feel nimble and at same time feel fast enough to have fun on the twisties. I ride mostly local roads so torque was more important than hp for me -- so a ptwin or vtwin were my preferred engine configurations. I debated the larger triples/4 cyl options like the mt09 and z900, but they both felt larger than i wanted so after sitting on all these bikes and doing tons of research I pulled the trigger on the z650. I haven't regretted it one bit -- while it is not a rocket like the 600s I owned when on the highway, it actually feels faster when on local roads, where I do most my riding anyway. It feels much more nimble than the harley and the sitting position is just right for me as I'm 5'7" with 30in inseam. Every bike has merits and negatives, it's about finding the one that fits your specific needs.
I am from India, and I would say go with Ninja 650 for the following reason: 1. Better suited to the roads from India 2. Better suited for the way the driving sense among people here 3. Cost Effective You would find people coming on the wrong side more than the right side, driving in between lanes and out of control trucks trying to drive like a 2 wheeler. Because of these I won't be able to enjoy the ride and the CBR's full capacity as much as I would like to.
The ninja is my pick because it has two seat height options. It's lighter. It'll get better gas mileage than cbr and its cheaper to insure. It's less expensive to maintain. Plus resale value on the cbr in my area is consistently worse than the ninja. Most people sell their bike eventually and you want to get the most back so you can get that mt10 or whatever you want after this one. The sv is kind of middle of the road boring and lacks its soulful character it used to have.
If I were to pick one, I'd go with the Ninja 650! I love the white, the dash, and the relaxed seating position, as you said. I've never ridden a bike and I was looking at the CBR500r, but I feel the Ninja would do it for me, it is a bit more than the 500, but the extra power would satisfy me a little longer I feel.
I've owned 15 or 20 bikes over the last few decades...Honda's, Kawasaki's, Suzuki's, Yamaha's, even a couple Beemers and an Ossa (!). A few years ago I used to road race. I like the corners, but I've also done 1,500 to 4,000 mile trips. I currently have both the Kawasaki 650 and the SV650. All three of these bikes meld sport bike and touring bike, but in different proportions. I've not ridden the Honda, but I've had a few four-cylinder bikes. They're just not as easy to ride as the two-cylinder bikes. You have to keep thinking about what gear you're in, how fast you're going and what's traffic doing the whole time you're on the bike. The high frequency vibration will wear on you after a few hours in the saddle. I just feel like the Honda is a "dumbed down" 600 sport bike. The Suzi and the Kawi can be ridden without thinking too much about what gear you're in, just wack the throttle open and their low-end torque will pull you away. They're fun to ride for hours because they're easy and forgiving. The SV650S is a young man's bike with its aggressive riding position. But, the Suzi is just a little more rough-hewn than the Kawaski. There's more vibration and the riding position is a little more likely to bother your back and your hands. It's an exciting bike, but not if you're over 30. It's a little more sporty and a little less touring bike than the Kawasaki. The Kawasaki 650 is sporty, but it's not a sport bike. I've taken mine on multi-day trips thru the Missouri and Arkansas twisties and you can bomb corners on it all day and not be cramped up. With its counter-rotating balancer, it's smoother than the Honda and the Suzuki. Lower initial cost and 50 to 55 MPG aren't to be ignored. Depending upon what model you buy, I like the additional protection that the larger fairing offers. I'll ride my Kawasaki 650 until I can't ride anymore.
Thank you, sir! That was the experience I was looking for as I would have the same use case (I am not that young anymore and want a comfortable but yet a bit sporty bike I can make longer trips and commutes on. Fuel-efficiency is also important).
Yo chase. I know you maybe take a lot of messages like this. But we really appreciate your hard work and the professionalism you put in these vids. Also you keep me company when im bored. So thanks for that. Have a good one.
Yesterday I bought a 2020 Ninja 650 with ABS for $7,199 and I paid cash for it. With ABS, the CBR650R is just about $10,000, which is significantly more, almost 50% more expensive. While I like the 4 cylinder sound of the CBR, I prefer the Ninja styling and the Ninja feels more like a premium motorcycle to me with the high-end TFT display, more comfortable seat and seating position for long rides and I like the handlebar design. Tail light looks better, and the front end looks more aggressive to me while the Honda looks more happy/girly. I wish the Ninja came in red but I got a black one and it looks great. The green KRT is cool but really it is just a bunch of stickers and I prefer paint. Insurance will be much less on the Ninja compared to Honda, fuel consumption much better, maintenance much lower on the parallel twin vs I4. Also, something you didn't discuss was the Kawasaki Rideology app which is another cool premium feature. Overall I'm very happy with this choice... frankly the TFT screen alone is a huge reason to buy the Ninja and you're looking at it the whole time you ride. The Honda screen looks very cheap and it is hard to read. Suzuki was out of the question for me because it is a whole different style of bike.
well... you payed almost half the price for a bike that has almost half the power at pretty much the same wet weight and at 10k it comes with a quickshifter, tc, 2 way abs... the tft isnt worth almost 40hp /shrug
@@oriondevil79 Again Ninja 650 engine is better for around town, 0-60 is the same on these but harder to launch on a CBR650, 1/4 mile CBR might be a couple tenths quicker. That HP number is up so high it is hardly usable. Go out and ride them both. This was my first bike and I love it. I will be getting something bigger next year in the 600/1000 class. Ninja 650 is a great bike all around just wish it had cruise control.
@@dan7553 Ninja 650 or Kawasaki Z650 are one of the top 2 starterbikes in my opinion. Very easy to drive, are big enough to not get tired of the bike after 1 month. They are cheap, and cheap to maintain.
Incredibly detailed review. I went in to buy the black 2021 CBR but was told it was almost a year wait. So, I bought a 650 Ninja in red. I'm a former Harley rider, who hasn't ridden in about five years. I'm looking for a commuter and bike for riding in our beautiful park system. Thanks for such a comprehensive review.
There are a few things I don´t quite agree with you, I have a 2020 Ninja 650 and have a friend with the CBR650R so both of us have drive both bikes, and we have also tested the SV650 (which BTW we though it was very mediocre), but that is not the point In the video you say that the CBR650R is more agile and flickable than the Ninja 650, which I think is far from the truth, if you understand "agility" this as the easiness of the bike to change direction, the Ninja 650 is way more agile (understandable taking in mind that weights 20kg less and the chassis type is also different). Now, if understand for agility of the bike the stability when cornering, then, yes the CBR is miles ahead on that regard. Also in certain point of the video you coment that the seat of the Ninja is quite confortable, it may be form or size wise, but is quite hard, quite a bit more than the CBR one which is quite confortable (for a sport bike), as a matter of fact I am changing the Ninja seat next week for gel/viscolastic one. My impressions on both: CBR - Very stable when cornering - Amazing stock sound (is sounds really good above 10K RPM) - Very good brakes (for it class) - Smooth transmission - Quite bad when moving it around on parkings or closed spaces - Lights are decent, but not amazing - Awesome looks, even better on the black colou, it looks like a bat-bike - The dash is not as good as the Ninja one, but is decent, also, the visibility is good, most reviews complains about it having problems when there is no direct sunlight, but I think those reviewers don´t know you can increase the screen birgthness Ninja - Jack of all trades - Easy to manouver on parkings - Quite Flickable - Decent but not brilliant brakes - Decent transmission - It has some engine sound gruntiness which I like, although on stock form it doesn´t sound as good as the CBR - Seat comfort is quite bad (the passenger one is even worse) - Position is quite good - Lights are really good, in fact I have baptized it as "the illuminati" - The Dash is really nice for this price range, there are better ones (new BMWs), but I quite like it, you can also adjust for instance when the RPMs turn orange (which mean you should change gear) Both are very good bikes on their own, but on different ways, the Ninja is a commuter without any big drawbacks (apart from the seat) which you can have fun on corners. The CBR is a beast on highways and fast corners, it has some troubles on very curvy mountain roads, it´s a sport bike which you can also use as a daily.
@@noahthetiger9837 i got A2 but that is enough for me xd. i got a gs500F 04.. so gotta get a 48HP version of the ninja 650 but i love the look of the new model
I’ve ridden both, of you are just looking to putt around town, have some fun, and just get out and ride the ninja is the way too go. However, if you want to push the bike, ride on the highway, get technical, or do more spirited riding, go for the cbr. Personally, I think the cbr is better in every way but it depends on what you want! Cheers
@@Tobeon2 just test ride them, Honda is on heavy side, sad that reviewer have leaned none of them. And comfort is incomparable you will not be happy staying on Honda for a long time. But better test ride them.
Here's a thought on the Ninja and it's agility. When I first bought it, I was a little surprised it wasn't as agile as I had thought it would be. But, two months later, and a leaking tire, I replaced the stock with Road 5's and the difference was huge. The bike is way more manoeuvrable than it was stock. Not having ridden the Honda, I can't say it is more agile, but it was a huge difference. The rain capabilities of the Road 5's are great as well. I'm a little biased on the Ninja but it does everything I want and need it to do to my riding capabilities and the types of riding I do. So, consider the type of riding you'll do. If it's a lot of highway or track days, the Honda is going to be the more fun choice with the inline 4. If it's a combo of city and highway/commuting, you'll have a better time on the Ninja because you're not having to keep it in a higher rev band. My only suggestion is, dump the stock tires for better rubber quickly. Get used to the bike first, feel it out, then swap the rubber and it'll feel somewhat like a new bike.
I would choose the ninja 650....my riding style is best suited for the ninja, i ride mostly in the city with shorter highway trips and occasional trips only being about 80miles. Im also a huge Kawasaki fan. Have a good day.
Bryant Smith Same here. In fact I just picked up the new Ninja 2 weeks ago. The more I ride it, the more I feel that I made the right choice. Very interesting to watch the comparisons on all 3 bikes.
Bryant, I am 5'7" and in the market myself right now. I met a little 30ish woman (a daily rider) from Puerto Rico at a Rivas motorcycle show. She told me that all the bikes can be adjusted for seat height. She changed my search behavior as I was almost forced into the Ninja.
@Altair I'd get a quote from your insurance before making a decision. For me, it cost the same to insure as a R6 or ZX-6R. As a newer rider, that was super expensive compared to the other two bikes.
I am new-er rider and this video (and the Ninja 650 review) absolutely solidified my decision to get a new 2020 Ninja 650. I live in city and need a good commuter bike. I take the highway to get to work but not enough for the wind to really matter much. The Honda is too pricy for insurance and as much as I love that Cafe Racer style, my learner bike was a 1999 Ninja 500r so I looove sticking to the sport style. Thanks so much for making these reviews and giving us all the information to make a solid decision on the bikes. You've helped a TON! Keep the reviews coming because I know after a year or two of being on the 650, I'm going to want a bigger, heavier bike to really fill that niche for power and speed. Much love and safe riding!
As a new rider I would go for the Ninja - sport bike looks but I think it will be great to build confidence and hone riding skills. Here in the UK the CBR breaks the bank when it comes to insurance costs.
These showdowns are super helpful and really fun to watch even if your not in the market. I also really appreciate al the details you put in to the edits for our viewing pleasure! Keep up the good work 🔥
I'm currently on an 2009 ER6N and looking to upgrade to something newer as the engine size is more than capable to handle what I do. Being 6'2" and with experience on a naked bike, the SV is out of the question from the start, even before considering the $8399 price tag. The CBR is a great bike, but the features you've mentioned are easily eclipsed by the additional $1900 cost compared to the Ninja. The only downside to the Ninja is the clip-ons and seat, but coming it at $7799 new, it's something I could live with. So, not unless a leftover CBR is drastically reduced, the Ninja is the winner for me...or perhaps a 2017/18 CBR650f.
Hi Chaser. I’ve become a great fan of your videos. You’ve helped me choose my first ever motorbike - at the age of 49! It’s a Ninja 650 for me. Thanks for again, and keep up the great work.
Just ordered a 2024 Ninja 650, I used to own a 2019 Ninja 650 and should never have let it go. I love the bike, and it’s a good all rounder here in the UK. Got it in the 40th anniversary colours as I also used to own a GPZ900r in the iconic red and black 😍
I love the Sv 650. The styling and the engine are fantastic. With that said, I think that I would purchase the Ninja 650 for the fact that it does not do everything great, but it does do it well and for the price you can't beat it.
I had a ninja 400 and i really liked it but now have a mt09 and im just not a fan. It has no wind resistance and although its not a highway the road i take to work does have a 55 mph speed limit and I absolutely hate riding it on that road. Get pushed back way to much. Im now between getting a ninja 650, cbr 650 or a r7
The Ninja would win for me because we get so much motorcycle for the lowest price, great tech, and great looks all while remaining fuel efficient, reliable, and comfortable.
The Kawasaki ninja 650, I live in Europe and have to have a restricted version. An in-line 4 restricted is just a dead engine and it's quite expensive. Also you said that it would be a good bike to choose between sport and touring ... Great video keep up the good work 😁
I road a 2006 suzuki vl800 for about 6 months as my first bike until I smoked a deer on it and totaled it lol. I want to change things up and move to a sport bike, and I've been really diggin the ninja. Between the low end torque, good looks, and good price, (for me) I don't really see any competition for new 600 class bikes.
OC: I think I would choose the Ninja 650. I like how it looks the best, like the low down torque and it's is the most comfortable. Since my highway speeds are more like 100-120kph and I'm shorter, the wind protection and engine would be just fine. I'm not looking for track days, just something to go on multi-hour rides in my twisty neck of the woods.
I was dead-set on the ninja 650 for my first bike. After you did this comparison I started leaning towards the CBR 650R. Before this video the Honda was not even on my radar. After watching I checked it out and loved it. Thank you for the great videos and helping me pick my first bike!
@@Leaguedup I purchased a brand new 2019 CBR 650R and absolutely love it. Although it is not a liter bike or exceptionally speedy it does the job. Not only does it do the job but it does it exceptionally well. After commuting with it, going on joy rides, or just random cruising on the highway, I can say that it is excellent in all of the aforementioned categories. I am not going to sit here and tell you that it is a speed demon, or the epitome of comfort. But I will tell you that it is a jack of all trades that can perform in any criteria despite not being the industry leader in said criteria. I would highly recommend, still love my bike!
Dash: Agree with your assessment. Looks: You crazy. Honda wins hands down. Engine: Agree. Nothing beats their inline four, but from a stop light, you gotta rev high. Ergos: Haven't ridden the other two, but the CBR650R has what I call a one-hour seat. Agility: The CBR650R folds over like a wet napkin. It is amazing. I own its sister bike, the Neosports Cafe version... the CB650R. The single-best motorcycle I have ever owned. 9 months and 4K miles into it, I'm looking forward to the next 4K. Great reviews!
The Honda being soo versatile shows soo much, here in UK I can only ride a 125 with my license but my Honda CBR125R is soo good at doing pretty much everything, whilst the single cylinder power band is a bit meh down low it still is the right amount of quick for city and has got enough power up top not to struggle up hills or just going 60 outta town, the seat is soo comfortable and you can scoot up and down soo much. I am glad I didn't pick up the YZFR-125 because I rode a few and whilst quick, soo not comfortable! Love Honda
as an owner of SV650, which I love, I have to say it does not have a comfy seat. It is pretty much just a bench with barely any padding. I am surprised you liked SV650X's seat. thanks for the comparison.
The CBR650 was my first bike and I kept it for 5 years! Great jack of all trades like you said. Recently sold it for an MT-10 because I wanted more power and I love it!
Great video, very helpful. I love the look of the sv650x, but was really torn between the Honda and the Kawasaki. For months and months, I was convinced I would get the cbr, but then I test rode the ninja, straight after the cbr, and I just felt so comfortable and confident on it (maybe due to lower and slimmer seat). To hear it's a bit of a jack of all trades is encouraging. I prefer small country roads to motorways if I can help it, so the top end of the cbr won't be much use to me. And I am in love with the 2020 black and white ninja. Am a bit annoyed to see it constantly regarded as a beginner bike (not here though - thank you!), as that's something I am trying to get away from with my current bike when buying my next one. Even so, it seems ninja is the one for me
I picked the. Ninja 650. Price point was a big one. Style was another. I'd be happy with any of the options. If I had unlimited money and didn't find a good deal on a ninja I'd get the Honda from this list. But a tail tidy, exhaust, tune and frame sliders the ninja is buckets of fun
I’m looking for my first big bike, and am doing my homework right now. I’m from England and after being into cars all my life, these bikes seem cheap to me for what i’m used to. As it stands, the CBR650R is standing out for me. I like the one with mat black with the red graphics.
I love the comparison style, but may I please ask 5 favors? 1. Giva specs in US measurements vs metrics, except engine cc 2. Always give all prices in US dollars 3. Always include seat hight, as I only have a 28" inseam 4.. Include gass mileage with total miles with a full tank 5. Emphasize0-60 accelleration
The problem with the CBR 650R is that it's very close to the price of a brand new ZX-6R. At ~%9,700 MSRP the ZX-6R sits at ~$10,000. The other bikes price wise are at least far enough away from the supersports to not have a buyer potentially deflect away to the supersport. There's a different level of hesitation between jumping over a couple thousand dollars versus a few hundred. Especially since Kawasaki tends to discount and have incentives much more regularly than Honda does.
I just got a 22 Ninja 650 in Krt trim, I love it so far 300 miles, Had a 20 Ninja 400 and put 4400 miles on and enjoy the smaller bikes, I still have a 15 Versy 1000lt , nice bike to bike to bike vid, thanks
@@colbyd.5044 I'm happy with it. It's about as much motorcycle as I can handle for my ability. The ABS and slipper clutch make it safer from dumb mistakes. It's a good all-around bike and it's plenty zippy. No complaints about the bike, runs great!
@@deanhough8993 awesome man thanks for getting back with me it’s the one I’ve been wanting for awhile I’m gonna pick up the grey 2021 abs version in a couple months. Seeing the cbr in this video kinda got me thinking but I don’t like the colors and have heard such good things about the ninja. For you personally what would you say is the best thing about riding? Grew up on dirtbikes but will be new to the streets
I am leaning heavily to the CBR 650 because most of my riding is 55-90 with the exception of the 0.5 miles from my house and within 1 mile from my work.
I pick the CBR. Reasons I do ride in the city, but I also commute a lot, I love the look and the sound. I’m kinda tall so I feel like I’d be more comfortable on the CBR as well. It is going to be my first bike and I do not have any experience into riding it is true. But since I plan to have only one bike I think it’s the best option since it has the best of both world
Looks wise I would invert the classification: 1.- Kawa: sporty, sharp and modern. 2.- Honda: the back end looks kinda bland, but good looking overall. 3.- Suzuki: the most mediocre looking current naked around.
xorbe2 I agree with that. the CBR is $9700 (according to Honda’s website) Id rather spend the extra $300 on a 2020 ZX-6R for $10,000. If you buy the NINJA 650 w/ABS you have an extra $1900 that you can put towards a DynoJet and a full Yoshimura or Akrapovic system and still have an extra $700-$800 laying around. Throw in a complete slider set that’s about $150 right there so you got about $550 left. Fender eliminator bundle from TST industries is $155, still got $395 left. Want a dark wind screen? Zero Gravity windscreen $90, still got $305 left. Point being, buy the NINJA.
I bought an R3 as my first motorcycle. I have been looking at Ninja 650s for a long time. If my wallet wasn't screaming at me, i'd choose the Honda all day. I've owned 3 Honda cars, and have not one bad thing to say about the brand. I love the R3 as my first bike. I've felt comfortable since the first ride on it. I wouldn't want any other bike as my first. Looking at the future, a 650 class bike is next for me. This series is perfect, and the timing of it couldn't be better. My problem is locally, a new 2019 CBR650R is right around $9000. A 2020 would be close to $10k. I've seen a 2019 Ninja 650 ABS for as low as $5500 brand new. Right this second, there are plenty new 2019 Ninjas around $6000. To clarify, I commute to work if weather permits and ride during the weekends as much as possible. I would like to hear what people have to say about that price difference. Assuming the CBR650R insurance is close to what a Ninja 650 would be for me, is an over $3000 premium worth the inline 4? Using Cycletrader with the same down payment and interest rate, a new 2019 CBR650R is double the payment per month than a new 2019 Ninja 650. I'm between a rock and a hard place. Thank you so much for your content. Honestly, i've lost count how many people I know that have joined the motorcycle world because of your videos. Keep up the amazing work.
Ninja 650 I've test drive both this week and I like the ninja alot better and out the door price after all taxes and fees for 2019 with 100 miles is 6800 cant beat it
I'm looking into finding a deal on a 2020 ninja 650 but did look into the cbr650. Good god Honda, you really priced the bike way out in left field. Might as well get a cbr600.
Yes this style of posting and comparison is perfect!!! I'm talking with somebody who's interested in his first bike I steered him towards 650s and your comparison consolidation video on top of the single videos of each bike is absolutely perfect keep up the good work chase hope you're doing well I know things here in Atlanta are getting hairy for us but keep that social distancing and see you on blood
Thank you for the review. I ride a mint condition 2007 plasma blue Kawasaki 650R Ninja with 4,050 miles. It has 72 horsepower with 48 ft lbs of torque and has a dry weight of 392 lbs. It has no emission restrictions. It's quite a fast bike. It is great on the freeway with the fairing. I've thought of the CBR650R, but my bike is just as fast in the city and at top end, and my bike is a lot lighter. I've thought of a SV650, but it would suffer on the freeway compared to mine.
arent they just the naked versons of the sporty small bikes, like isnt the only diffrence looks, as he have alredy done a series on the small cc sport bikes
The Honda wins for me, that’s why I bought one 3 weeks ago. I love sport motorcycles, but I didn’t want the harshness of a super sport, so the CBR does it for me in every way. The Ninja 650 is just plain boring in my eyes. I agree that it’s a great bike for someone looking to step up from a smaller displacement that wants a commuter bike, but as far as excitement goes, it does nothing for me. Great price though on this bike. The SVX I would totally own if I already had a sport bike. It’s definitely the coolest looking of all these 3 bikes. It would be a bike that makes you look and feel cool all day long. Now since I own the CBR, and if I was looking for another bike, I would definitely go ride one of these and probably buy it to have something totally different from what I or anyone else already has. Good job Chase!
Ben Vu I have the 650R’s little brother, the 500R. If I were to upgrade and get a little step up in performance, do you think the 650R would be a good choice?
Cbr because I put alot of highway miles every summer. I am actually considering trading in my cbr 500r for the new 650 as we speak. I also currently own a 82 v45 magna cafe/bobber setup for cruising and getting it from time to time.
In Australia, the ninja is $12,800 the Honda is $13,250. I was keen on the Ninja as my first bike, but the Honda seems like a no brainer with that in mind.
I used my Ninja for Touring most of the time. And what we need during touring is a good ergonomic, not to tuck in all the time touring with distance up to 100km and above. 2nd, windshield should be tall to protect you from strong wind and your body will had less fatigue against with the wind. What I don't like about this Ninja is you can go full throttle with full comfortable like mine, sprocket down to 42T, 3 boxes and tall windshield, but in exchange of comfortable, you had to give in on fuel consumption. It's really bad, full throttle 205km/h will give you an Average of 15km/L. But that kinda average are better than any 4 inline bike that on half of throttle or in half of it's top speed. Still, my Ninja is the best. If I want to upgrade, I will go for CBR650R for it's 4 inline and higher topspeed than Ninja 650. 650cc class is the best body to weight look than 1000cc, bigger body more weight.
LOVE the new style and method of comparison, please do this more with other types of bikes. ie. dual sports , touring, liter, dirt, cruiser...would love to see all those videos =]
But in real life, if you can only own one bike that has to do everything, the grocery run, the freeway at speed and daily commuting, as much as we say "oh the Honda is more fun" or "such and such a bike is more aesthetically pleasing" or whatever, most of us are probably gonna end up on the Ninja 650 right? Well, that's how it played out for me and I bet it's a pretty common story.
I have never ridden before and at 42 yrs old. I want to buy a motorcycle and keep that motorcycle for many years. I’d rather learn on the Kawi but I feel the best buy is the Honda. It would look great parked beside my Honda ATV also. 😏
Ninja 650 I got a 25 inch inseem and can almost flat foot the sv I can tippy toe and the Honda don’t ask me why but I can almost flat foot even tho it’s higher I’m a city guy and use the highway
I commute (60 miles round trip) with Ninja 300. 50% (20 mins) and 50% (40 mins) city traffic in terms of distance. I used to be soooo torn between Ninja 400 vs 650.. And.. Now between Ninja 650 and CBR650R.. 😞😩
Nice video man I’m looking into this category of bikes to add a sport bike to my garage to go with my Harley. Just subscribed bro, keep up the good work 🤘🏽
Ninja fix 1 ergo seat/ luminoto/ stunt seat 2 raise the bars. Extras. Windscreen, Sprockets, Anything after that. Go full custom Or skip & go w/ ZX-635R
Personally I think I would pick the Ninja 650, I am 56 years old and don't need speed and agility. I am looking for a sporty bike that is light weight and that I can comute to and from work. I do have other bikes that I use (Indian Chieftain Elite, Can Am RT limited and Honda ST1300). Really I'm looking to replace the Honda ST1300 due to so heavy and moving it around the shop is harder now a days. I think I would like the Honda over the Kawasaki if I was to be riding on the highway more but that's what my big bikes are for. The Suzuki looks cool but in Texas I need a full windshield due to the wind all the time. Great vid I'm looking at all vids to see what others like. Also looking at the new Suzuki GSX and the Ninja 1000sx. I would like to see a comparison of those.
Well I'm 3 yrs too late for my comment to be even slightly relevant but... this was a great production, really informative and fun.. in fact you SHOULD be commissioned by Netflix..! 🤔👌🏾 Anyway, I'm one of those people that finds a product then realises the brand quality and sticks by it. In this case the Honda CBR650R to me is a winner because of the power, the styling and the ergonomics.. it pretty much just ticks all the boxes for me.. in fact since 2008, (when I passed my test) I've owned only Honda's except for a few months when I went the Ninja 600 route, which was ok but shortly after I went back to Honda. What can I say.. the heart wants what the heart wants 🥰😎 Keep up the good work.. you're killing it man..!
Outro crew: CBR 650r. I personally think the cbr is best n class bcuz of its power output and style. I like that it’s standard led lighting and it’s reliability. I also like that it’s a nice beginner style bike that newer riders don’t have 2 feel that they’re out growing 2 soon. I also like that u record these videos everyday so I don’t have 2 wait all week 4 footage(like low cc comparisons). I kno it’s great work but many viewers don’t have 2 dedicate as much tyme 2 watching ur videos.
The Suzuki is my favourite. My 2004 SV 650s still runs great. I will buy another because the v twin motor is so smooth and refined, is great on fuel, and the bike handles like a dream.
Which 650 wins for you?
chaseontwowheels Honda for me
Honda is a step up to be honest. But so is the price
I’m really digging the CBR650R. Super Sports are nice but I love long rides
Ninja and Honda
Mt07 💯
Dash: 2:49
Looks: 3:57
Engine: 4:57
Ergo/comfort: 8:22
Fun factor: 10:37
Cost effectiveness: 12:12
Agility: 15:16
Transmission: 16:56
Weight: 18:07
Controls: 19:28
MVP
Tq mam
Saviour
@Dalton Roth so just frankenstein or buy aftermarket dash and cbr wins 7
Thank you
I don't know why you still need the confirmation but here you go: we love this group style for first rides
Because the answer won’t actually impact what he does
Personally, I would pick the Cbr650r just because you can use it for daily commuting and you can also have a bit of sport-type fun experience. So it's like a solid package of a bike
Have one as my first big bike after getting my full license (UK) in January, done getting in for 5,000 miles, been to the Austrian alps and back. Love every ride on this bike even after 6 hours on autobahns with 2 panniers and a backpack!
Cbr is too big.and heavy for beginner.... ninja suit better
@@chengsgroup2518 lol no, you can even start on a 1000cc, no problem at all. CBR650r is the best out these 3 bikes
I couldn't live with the lack of torque as a commuter. Definitely a better track bike... But no usable Torque is frustrating on the street.
@@siamsunsets6464 I don't understand the people who needs all the torque at low rpms, I mean, you drag race every single vehicle in the street? I don't think so... Or you shouldn't... And if you want to "race" you need the top end. I'm a CB650R owner, and I don't have any single problem with "low torque" at low RPMs
I have the CBR650R and its an amazing bike, I have done multiple full day rides in the twistys (I am talking 10 hour plus rides) and not been in any pain after. The bike makes you want to get back on it and hit some more corners no matter how long you have already been riding it that day
Good beginner bike?
@@ChevyCorvetteZif you’re comfortable, and you’re not scared. It’s a perfect beginner bike. The 650R is very good and nimble on the road, easy to manuver, easy to handle, it’s got enough power and you can literally commute on it everyday and everywhere plus it catches a lot of eyes on the road too *you’re hearing this from another happy and proud owner of CBR 650R*
@@muhammadsaqlain981 Thanks, is your insurance expensive? If you don’t mind me asking?
Can i ask how much are you tall?
CB650R owner here, i would have picked the CBR650R if only they did a good pain job option for ti. The black isnt that good looking due to all the matt black parts...should have been all gloss black. The red...well its red,, has to many decals all over, sure you can remove most, but not the ones on the tank.
I dig the Ninja. Great price, I do a lot of city riding, and some highway, so I appreciate the low end torque and aeros. Love the dash and LOVE the front end.
Kawi should have one, it is to me the best all around. All he did was complain about the Honda but it won.
@@chelseahenry712 No? He was complaining about the SV650X and it was his personal choice lmao
Great review! I got back into riding last year after a few year hiatus and I chose a Z650 over the MT07, Z900, MT09, SV650, and the 650s from Honda. I went this route because I started on a 600cc super sport and loved the fun factor, then after 2 600cc bikes, I tried out a Harley Sportster and liked it for comfort, but hated the weight and lack of nimble handling. So when it came to going back to riding, I felt I wanted something that would feel nimble and at same time feel fast enough to have fun on the twisties. I ride mostly local roads so torque was more important than hp for me -- so a ptwin or vtwin were my preferred engine configurations. I debated the larger triples/4 cyl options like the mt09 and z900, but they both felt larger than i wanted so after sitting on all these bikes and doing tons of research I pulled the trigger on the z650. I haven't regretted it one bit -- while it is not a rocket like the 600s I owned when on the highway, it actually feels faster when on local roads, where I do most my riding anyway. It feels much more nimble than the harley and the sitting position is just right for me as I'm 5'7" with 30in inseam. Every bike has merits and negatives, it's about finding the one that fits your specific needs.
Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on the look of the Z650?
You said it best
I got a zx-6r
I like the torque myself and the Kawasaki 650 engine is a proven reliable motor.
I am from India, and I would say go with Ninja 650 for the following reason:
1. Better suited to the roads from India
2. Better suited for the way the driving sense among people here
3. Cost Effective
You would find people coming on the wrong side more than the right side, driving in between lanes and out of control trucks trying to drive like a 2 wheeler. Because of these I won't be able to enjoy the ride and the CBR's full capacity as much as I would like to.
SV 650 coming very soon in India.
@Brendon Fernandes go for a mild sounding aftermarket side mounted exhaust
@Brendon Fernandes I think mivv should do the job perfectly
You know what? We dont really care
@@dencelosorio3079 lol seems like you care enough to comment
The ninja is my pick because it has two seat height options. It's lighter. It'll get better gas mileage than cbr and its cheaper to insure. It's less expensive to maintain. Plus resale value on the cbr in my area is consistently worse than the ninja. Most people sell their bike eventually and you want to get the most back so you can get that mt10 or whatever you want after this one. The sv is kind of middle of the road boring and lacks its soulful character it used to have.
If I were to pick one, I'd go with the Ninja 650! I love the white, the dash, and the relaxed seating position, as you said. I've never ridden a bike and I was looking at the CBR500r, but I feel the Ninja would do it for me, it is a bit more than the 500, but the extra power would satisfy me a little longer I feel.
Ninja 650 I like comfort and it doesn’t cost that much at all
I've owned 15 or 20 bikes over the last few decades...Honda's, Kawasaki's, Suzuki's, Yamaha's, even a couple Beemers and an Ossa (!). A few years ago I used to road race. I like the corners, but I've also done 1,500 to 4,000 mile trips. I currently have both the Kawasaki 650 and the SV650. All three of these bikes meld sport bike and touring bike, but in different proportions.
I've not ridden the Honda, but I've had a few four-cylinder bikes. They're just not as easy to ride as the two-cylinder bikes. You have to keep thinking about what gear you're in, how fast you're going and what's traffic doing the whole time you're on the bike. The high frequency vibration will wear on you after a few hours in the saddle. I just feel like the Honda is a "dumbed down" 600 sport bike.
The Suzi and the Kawi can be ridden without thinking too much about what gear you're in, just wack the throttle open and their low-end torque will pull you away. They're fun to ride for hours because they're easy and forgiving.
The SV650S is a young man's bike with its aggressive riding position. But, the Suzi is just a little more rough-hewn than the Kawaski. There's more vibration and the riding position is a little more likely to bother your back and your hands. It's an exciting bike, but not if you're over 30. It's a little more sporty and a little less touring bike than the Kawasaki.
The Kawasaki 650 is sporty, but it's not a sport bike. I've taken mine on multi-day trips thru the Missouri and Arkansas twisties and you can bomb corners on it all day and not be cramped up. With its counter-rotating balancer, it's smoother than the Honda and the Suzuki. Lower initial cost and 50 to 55 MPG aren't to be ignored. Depending upon what model you buy, I like the additional protection that the larger fairing offers.
I'll ride my Kawasaki 650 until I can't ride anymore.
Thank you, sir! That was the experience I was looking for as I would have the same use case (I am not that young anymore and want a comfortable but yet a bit sporty bike I can make longer trips and commutes on. Fuel-efficiency is also important).
Yo chase. I know you maybe take a lot of messages like this. But we really appreciate your hard work and the professionalism you put in these vids. Also you keep me company when im bored. So thanks for that. Have a good one.
Yesterday I bought a 2020 Ninja 650 with ABS for $7,199 and I paid cash for it. With ABS, the CBR650R is just about $10,000, which is significantly more, almost 50% more expensive. While I like the 4 cylinder sound of the CBR, I prefer the Ninja styling and the Ninja feels more like a premium motorcycle to me with the high-end TFT display, more comfortable seat and seating position for long rides and I like the handlebar design. Tail light looks better, and the front end looks more aggressive to me while the Honda looks more happy/girly. I wish the Ninja came in red but I got a black one and it looks great. The green KRT is cool but really it is just a bunch of stickers and I prefer paint. Insurance will be much less on the Ninja compared to Honda, fuel consumption much better, maintenance much lower on the parallel twin vs I4. Also, something you didn't discuss was the Kawasaki Rideology app which is another cool premium feature. Overall I'm very happy with this choice... frankly the TFT screen alone is a huge reason to buy the Ninja and you're looking at it the whole time you ride. The Honda screen looks very cheap and it is hard to read. Suzuki was out of the question for me because it is a whole different style of bike.
That's so weird in the UK the Honda and ninja are closer in price 1k diff between them
well... you payed almost half the price for a bike that has almost half the power at pretty much the same wet weight and at 10k it comes with a quickshifter, tc, 2 way abs... the tft isnt worth almost 40hp /shrug
@@oriondevil79 Again Ninja 650 engine is better for around town, 0-60 is the same on these but harder to launch on a CBR650, 1/4 mile CBR might be a couple tenths quicker. That HP number is up so high it is hardly usable. Go out and ride them both. This was my first bike and I love it. I will be getting something bigger next year in the 600/1000 class. Ninja 650 is a great bike all around just wish it had cruise control.
Kevin McGillick I’m looking at the Ninja 650 for my first bike (no experience before), how was it learning how to ride on it?
@@dan7553 Ninja 650 or Kawasaki Z650 are one of the top 2 starterbikes in my opinion. Very easy to drive, are big enough to not get tired of the bike after 1 month. They are cheap, and cheap to maintain.
Please do a 600 super sport class comparison !
Great comparison. Very helpful to potential buyers
Incredibly detailed review. I went in to buy the black 2021 CBR but was told it was almost a year wait. So, I bought a 650 Ninja in red. I'm a former Harley rider, who hasn't ridden in about five years. I'm looking for a commuter and bike for riding in our beautiful park system. Thanks for such a comprehensive review.
There are a few things I don´t quite agree with you, I have a 2020 Ninja 650 and have a friend with the CBR650R so both of us have drive both bikes, and we have also tested the SV650 (which BTW we though it was very mediocre), but that is not the point
In the video you say that the CBR650R is more agile and flickable than the Ninja 650, which I think is far from the truth, if you understand "agility" this as the easiness of the bike to change direction, the Ninja 650 is way more agile (understandable taking in mind that weights 20kg less and the chassis type is also different). Now, if understand for agility of the bike the stability when cornering, then, yes the CBR is miles ahead on that regard.
Also in certain point of the video you coment that the seat of the Ninja is quite confortable, it may be form or size wise, but is quite hard, quite a bit more than the CBR one which is quite confortable (for a sport bike), as a matter of fact I am changing the Ninja seat next week for gel/viscolastic one.
My impressions on both:
CBR
- Very stable when cornering
- Amazing stock sound (is sounds really good above 10K RPM)
- Very good brakes (for it class)
- Smooth transmission
- Quite bad when moving it around on parkings or closed spaces
- Lights are decent, but not amazing
- Awesome looks, even better on the black colou, it looks like a bat-bike
- The dash is not as good as the Ninja one, but is decent, also, the visibility is good, most reviews complains about it having problems when there is no direct sunlight, but I think those reviewers don´t know you can increase the screen birgthness
Ninja
- Jack of all trades
- Easy to manouver on parkings
- Quite Flickable
- Decent but not brilliant brakes
- Decent transmission
- It has some engine sound gruntiness which I like, although on stock form it doesn´t sound as good as the CBR
- Seat comfort is quite bad (the passenger one is even worse)
- Position is quite good
- Lights are really good, in fact I have baptized it as "the illuminati"
- The Dash is really nice for this price range, there are better ones (new BMWs), but I quite like it, you can also adjust for instance when the RPMs turn orange (which mean you should change gear)
Both are very good bikes on their own, but on different ways, the Ninja is a commuter without any big drawbacks (apart from the seat) which you can have fun on corners. The CBR is a beast on highways and fast corners, it has some troubles on very curvy mountain roads, it´s a sport bike which you can also use as a daily.
You are a legend! Thanks for taking the time to write all that
Which bike you recommend for canyon ride?
@@angquangminh2561 Just for Canyon? so no daily at all? the CBR definitely
My first bike is a 2016 ninja 650 and I couldnt be happier with it. 650 is such a sweet spot class of bike
That’s exactly what I have and I love it! Plenty of power for what I need
@@noahthetiger9837 i got A2 but that is enough for me xd. i got a gs500F 04.. so gotta get a 48HP version of the ninja 650 but i love the look of the new model
Yeh i just bought a 2021 ninja 650 so happy with it
Like the way you did the videos of the 3 bikes.
You should do the 600 supersport class next (2020 ninja zx6r, 2020 yamaha r6, gsxr r600, and the honda cbr 600rr)
Like if you agree
I enjoyed this series. I was actually already looking at the CBR and Ninja then realized you started this series.
I am so torn between Ninja 650 and CBR650R.. 😞😩
I’ve ridden both, of you are just looking to putt around town, have some fun, and just get out and ride the ninja is the way too go. However, if you want to push the bike, ride on the highway, get technical, or do more spirited riding, go for the cbr. Personally, I think the cbr is better in every way but it depends on what you want! Cheers
@@Tobeon2 just test ride them, Honda is on heavy side, sad that reviewer have leaned none of them. And comfort is incomparable you will not be happy staying on Honda for a long time.
But better test ride them.
Al Johnson You summed it up, I agree.
Here's a thought on the Ninja and it's agility. When I first bought it, I was a little surprised it wasn't as agile as I had thought it would be. But, two months later, and a leaking tire, I replaced the stock with Road 5's and the difference was huge. The bike is way more manoeuvrable than it was stock. Not having ridden the Honda, I can't say it is more agile, but it was a huge difference. The rain capabilities of the Road 5's are great as well.
I'm a little biased on the Ninja but it does everything I want and need it to do to my riding capabilities and the types of riding I do.
So, consider the type of riding you'll do. If it's a lot of highway or track days, the Honda is going to be the more fun choice with the inline 4. If it's a combo of city and highway/commuting, you'll have a better time on the Ninja because you're not having to keep it in a higher rev band.
My only suggestion is, dump the stock tires for better rubber quickly. Get used to the bike first, feel it out, then swap the rubber and it'll feel somewhat like a new bike.
I would choose the ninja 650....my riding style is best suited for the ninja, i ride mostly in the city with shorter highway trips and occasional trips only being about 80miles. Im also a huge Kawasaki fan. Have a good day.
I’m not even looking to buy another bike BUT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!! Love seeing your comparisons among bikes
Hello Doodle. Your Triumph kills all these bikes anyway.
1 kawasaki , 2 Honda, 3 Suzuki
I'm only 5'6 so the ninja fits me well and I ride mostly in the city and take maybe 1 or 2 long rides a year.
Bryant Smith Same here. In fact I just picked up the new Ninja 2 weeks ago.
The more I ride it, the more I feel that I made the right choice. Very interesting to watch the comparisons on all 3 bikes.
According to y'alls experience (and I'm new to this and want a ninja by next year) what is the fastest car it can beat
@@sambeezy007 your grandmother's car ❤😊
Bryant, I am 5'7" and in the market myself right now. I met a little 30ish woman (a daily rider) from Puerto Rico at a Rivas motorcycle show. She told me that all the bikes can be adjusted for seat height. She changed my search behavior as I was almost forced into the Ninja.
@@kevalmangena412 that doesn't tell me anything lol that's a no brainer. I went on and got the 400
I like the Ninja.. best bang for the buck imo.. simple as that
Should have talked about insurance price as well. Not only is the CBR the most expensive, it's double the price of the other two bikes to insure.
Insurance is highly personal you cannot do it justice like that
SERIOUSLY DAMN! Thanks for mentioning that
Kuweiyo no not seriously lol insurance is extremely personal, assuming you were responding to him, hard to tell on mobile.
@Altair I'd get a quote from your insurance before making a decision. For me, it cost the same to insure as a R6 or ZX-6R. As a newer rider, that was super expensive compared to the other two bikes.
@Altair Get a quote instead of listening to some random over a youtube video lol
I am new-er rider and this video (and the Ninja 650 review) absolutely solidified my decision to get a new 2020 Ninja 650. I live in city and need a good commuter bike. I take the highway to get to work but not enough for the wind to really matter much. The Honda is too pricy for insurance and as much as I love that Cafe Racer style, my learner bike was a 1999 Ninja 500r so I looove sticking to the sport style. Thanks so much for making these reviews and giving us all the information to make a solid decision on the bikes. You've helped a TON! Keep the reviews coming because I know after a year or two of being on the 650, I'm going to want a bigger, heavier bike to really fill that niche for power and speed. Much love and safe riding!
How do you like it? I’m saving up for a ninja 650! I’m planning on getting one in a month
As a new rider I would go for the Ninja - sport bike looks but I think it will be great to build confidence and hone riding skills. Here in the UK the CBR breaks the bank when it comes to insurance costs.
These showdowns are super helpful and really fun to watch even if your not in the market. I also really appreciate al the details you put in to the edits for our viewing pleasure! Keep up the good work 🔥
This is a good way to compare motorcycles, bro! Keep making more! Kudos!
I'm currently on an 2009 ER6N and looking to upgrade to something newer as the engine size is more than capable to handle what I do. Being 6'2" and with experience on a naked bike, the SV is out of the question from the start, even before considering the $8399 price tag. The CBR is a great bike, but the features you've mentioned are easily eclipsed by the additional $1900 cost compared to the Ninja. The only downside to the Ninja is the clip-ons and seat, but coming it at $7799 new, it's something I could live with. So, not unless a leftover CBR is drastically reduced, the Ninja is the winner for me...or perhaps a 2017/18 CBR650f.
What did you choose? The ER6F and Ninja 650 are comparable in performance. That's not an upgrade, is it?
Hi Chaser. I’ve become a great fan of your videos. You’ve helped me choose my first ever motorbike - at the age of 49! It’s a Ninja 650 for me. Thanks for again, and keep up the great work.
Just ordered a 2024 Ninja 650, I used to own a 2019 Ninja 650 and should never have let it go. I love the bike, and it’s a good all rounder here in the UK. Got it in the 40th anniversary colours as I also used to own a GPZ900r in the iconic red and black 😍
make test drive on cbr 650 r and you will regret
I love the Sv 650. The styling and the engine are fantastic. With that said, I think that I would purchase the Ninja 650 for the fact that it does not do everything great, but it does do it well and for the price you can't beat it.
I had a ninja 400 and i really liked it but now have a mt09 and im just not a fan. It has no wind resistance and although its not a highway the road i take to work does have a 55 mph speed limit and I absolutely hate riding it on that road. Get pushed back way to much. Im now between getting a ninja 650, cbr 650 or a r7
YOU: “Cut to voice over Chase now.”
End of video
ME: “WTF dude?!?!”
Do the Triumph Speed Twin, Yamaha XSR900, Honda CB1000R. Love this style and your vids! Keep up the great work.
The Ninja would win for me because we get so much motorcycle for the lowest price, great tech, and great looks all while remaining fuel efficient, reliable, and comfortable.
I like how you compare them. I think 3 riders riding together and swapping out so you all ride against each other on each one would be great
And then have riders 6’2” ,5’”10, and some other size like bigger or smaller
The Kawasaki ninja 650, I live in Europe and have to have a restricted version. An in-line 4 restricted is just a dead engine and it's quite expensive. Also you said that it would be a good bike to choose between sport and touring ... Great video keep up the good work 😁
I road a 2006 suzuki vl800 for about 6 months as my first bike until I smoked a deer on it and totaled it lol. I want to change things up and move to a sport bike, and I've been really diggin the ninja. Between the low end torque, good looks, and good price, (for me) I don't really see any competition for new 600 class bikes.
Cost Effectiveness: I just picked up a new 19 Ninja 650 (non abs) from the dealer for 5400.
OC: I think I would choose the Ninja 650. I like how it looks the best, like the low down torque and it's is the most comfortable. Since my highway speeds are more like 100-120kph and I'm shorter, the wind protection and engine would be just fine. I'm not looking for track days, just something to go on multi-hour rides in my twisty neck of the woods.
I was dead-set on the ninja 650 for my first bike. After you did this comparison I started leaning towards the CBR 650R. Before this video the Honda was not even on my radar. After watching I checked it out and loved it. Thank you for the great videos and helping me pick my first bike!
How did this work out for you? I notice it was a year ago
@@Leaguedup I purchased a brand new 2019 CBR 650R and absolutely love it. Although it is not a liter bike or exceptionally speedy it does the job. Not only does it do the job but it does it exceptionally well. After commuting with it, going on joy rides, or just random cruising on the highway, I can say that it is excellent in all of the aforementioned categories. I am not going to sit here and tell you that it is a speed demon, or the epitome of comfort. But I will tell you that it is a jack of all trades that can perform in any criteria despite not being the industry leader in said criteria. I would highly recommend, still love my bike!
@@mlgfated7667 thanks for the reply! It’s very helpful. Safe riding!
Dash: Agree with your assessment. Looks: You crazy. Honda wins hands down. Engine: Agree. Nothing beats their inline four, but from a stop light, you gotta rev high. Ergos: Haven't ridden the other two, but the CBR650R has what I call a one-hour seat. Agility: The CBR650R folds over like a wet napkin. It is amazing. I own its sister bike, the Neosports Cafe version... the CB650R. The single-best motorcycle I have ever owned. 9 months and 4K miles into it, I'm looking forward to the next 4K. Great reviews!
The Honda being soo versatile shows soo much, here in UK I can only ride a 125 with my license but my Honda CBR125R is soo good at doing pretty much everything, whilst the single cylinder power band is a bit meh down low it still is the right amount of quick for city and has got enough power up top not to struggle up hills or just going 60 outta town, the seat is soo comfortable and you can scoot up and down soo much. I am glad I didn't pick up the YZFR-125 because I rode a few and whilst quick, soo not comfortable! Love Honda
This is by far the best and most comprehensive comparison of any videos I have seen so far.
Keep up the good work.
as an owner of SV650, which I love, I have to say it does not have a comfy seat. It is pretty much just a bench with barely any padding. I am surprised you liked SV650X's seat. thanks for the comparison.
The CBR650 was my first bike and I kept it for 5 years! Great jack of all trades like you said. Recently sold it for an MT-10 because I wanted more power and I love it!
Great video, very helpful. I love the look of the sv650x, but was really torn between the Honda and the Kawasaki. For months and months, I was convinced I would get the cbr, but then I test rode the ninja, straight after the cbr, and I just felt so comfortable and confident on it (maybe due
to lower and slimmer seat). To hear it's a bit of a jack of all trades is encouraging. I prefer small country roads to motorways if I can help it, so the top end of the cbr won't be much use to me. And I am in love with the 2020 black and white ninja. Am a bit annoyed to see it constantly regarded as a beginner bike (not here though - thank you!), as that's something I am trying to get away from with my current bike when buying my next one. Even so, it seems ninja is the one for me
I picked the. Ninja 650. Price point was a big one. Style was another. I'd be happy with any of the options. If I had unlimited money and didn't find a good deal on a ninja I'd get the Honda from this list. But a tail tidy, exhaust, tune and frame sliders the ninja is buckets of fun
I’m looking for my first big bike, and am doing my homework right now. I’m from England and after being into cars all my life, these bikes seem cheap to me for what i’m used to. As it stands, the CBR650R is standing out for me. I like the one with mat black with the red graphics.
The 90s look in suzuki is very rare nowadays. I love it.
I love the comparison style, but may I please ask 5 favors?
1. Giva specs in US measurements vs metrics, except engine cc
2. Always give all prices in US dollars
3. Always include seat hight, as I only have a 28" inseam
4.. Include gass mileage with total miles with a full tank
5. Emphasize0-60 accelleration
24:42 WTH is that truck driver doing😂
The problem with the CBR 650R is that it's very close to the price of a brand new ZX-6R. At ~%9,700 MSRP the ZX-6R sits at ~$10,000. The other bikes price wise are at least far enough away from the supersports to not have a buyer potentially deflect away to the supersport. There's a different level of hesitation between jumping over a couple thousand dollars versus a few hundred. Especially since Kawasaki tends to discount and have incentives much more regularly than Honda does.
Ninja 650! I have not ridden in years and if I was going to start again I think it would the best option for me. Also really like the looks and ergos.
I just got a 22 Ninja 650 in Krt trim, I love it so far 300 miles, Had a 20 Ninja 400 and put 4400 miles on and enjoy the smaller bikes, I still have a 15 Versy 1000lt , nice bike to bike to bike vid, thanks
Sure! This way of posting videos is amazing. Its easy to follow. I love it
This was an excellent review! Thanks!!!! Very helpful! I got a Ninja 650 and your review matches my experience with it.
How you liking it?
@@colbyd.5044 I'm happy with it. It's about as much motorcycle as I can handle for my ability. The ABS and slipper clutch make it safer from dumb mistakes. It's a good all-around bike and it's plenty zippy. No complaints about the bike, runs great!
@@deanhough8993 awesome man thanks for getting back with me it’s the one I’ve been wanting for awhile I’m gonna pick up the grey 2021 abs version in a couple months. Seeing the cbr in this video kinda got me thinking but I don’t like the colors and have heard such good things about the ninja. For you personally what would you say is the best thing about riding? Grew up on dirtbikes but will be new to the streets
I am leaning heavily to the CBR 650 because most of my riding is 55-90 with the exception of the 0.5 miles from my house and within 1 mile from my work.
I pick the CBR. Reasons I do ride in the city, but I also commute a lot, I love the look and the sound. I’m kinda tall so I feel like I’d be more comfortable on the CBR as well. It is going to be my first bike and I do not have any experience into riding it is true. But since I plan to have only one bike I think it’s the best option since it has the best of both world
Looks wise I would invert the classification:
1.- Kawa: sporty, sharp and modern.
2.- Honda: the back end looks kinda bland, but good looking overall.
3.- Suzuki: the most mediocre looking current naked around.
Personally I think the Kawa is the ugliest haha
I did a lil Instagram story vote between ninja 650 green/black & Suzuki sv650 red/black. It was 75 for Suzuki & only 33 for the ninja 650
By lord that stubby end of the CBR is killing me, hoping for a RR style rear end to come soon since i've got cash waiting for one xD
@@maxlombardo2702 Yeah, but those garish stripes on the Honda, and with no other choice. Yuck!
The cbr650r ergos are what I wanted for the R7
Ninja 650 by a mile.
If I wanted a Honda 650R, I'd get a liter bike. These 3 bikes don't even really compare well.
xorbe2 I agree with that. the CBR is $9700 (according to Honda’s website) Id rather spend the extra $300 on a 2020 ZX-6R for $10,000. If you buy the NINJA 650 w/ABS you have an extra $1900 that you can put towards a DynoJet and a full Yoshimura or Akrapovic system and still have an extra $700-$800 laying around. Throw in a complete slider set that’s about $150 right there so you got about $550 left. Fender eliminator bundle from TST industries is $155, still got $395 left. Want a dark wind screen? Zero Gravity windscreen $90, still got $305 left. Point being, buy the NINJA.
How tall are you Chase? Because that will help me put your ergonomic observations into perspective
This was a great way of doing the vids! Really really enjoyed it! Stayed all the way through the entire vid!
I bought an R3 as my first motorcycle. I have been looking at Ninja 650s for a long time. If my wallet wasn't screaming at me, i'd choose the Honda all day. I've owned 3 Honda cars, and have not one bad thing to say about the brand.
I love the R3 as my first bike. I've felt comfortable since the first ride on it. I wouldn't want any other bike as my first. Looking at the future, a 650 class bike is next for me. This series is perfect, and the timing of it couldn't be better. My problem is locally, a new 2019 CBR650R is right around $9000. A 2020 would be close to $10k. I've seen a 2019 Ninja 650 ABS for as low as $5500 brand new. Right this second, there are plenty new 2019 Ninjas around $6000. To clarify, I commute to work if weather permits and ride during the weekends as much as possible.
I would like to hear what people have to say about that price difference. Assuming the CBR650R insurance is close to what a Ninja 650 would be for me, is an over $3000 premium worth the inline 4? Using Cycletrader with the same down payment and interest rate, a new 2019 CBR650R is double the payment per month than a new 2019 Ninja 650. I'm between a rock and a hard place.
Thank you so much for your content. Honestly, i've lost count how many people I know that have joined the motorcycle world because of your videos. Keep up the amazing work.
Ninja 650 I've test drive both this week and I like the ninja alot better and out the door price after all taxes and fees for 2019 with 100 miles is 6800 cant beat it
I'm looking into finding a deal on a 2020 ninja 650 but did look into the cbr650. Good god Honda, you really priced the bike way out in left field. Might as well get a cbr600.
Which is most comfortable: goes on to say “Too comfortable” 😑
Dman117 zx
I heard it.... sounded like bullshit!
Yes this style of posting and comparison is perfect!!! I'm talking with somebody who's interested in his first bike I steered him towards 650s and your comparison consolidation video on top of the single videos of each bike is absolutely perfect keep up the good work chase hope you're doing well I know things here in Atlanta are getting hairy for us but keep that social distancing and see you on blood
need an update to this series
Thank you for the review. I ride a mint condition 2007 plasma blue Kawasaki 650R Ninja with 4,050 miles. It has 72 horsepower with 48 ft lbs of torque and has a dry weight of 392 lbs. It has no emission restrictions. It's quite a fast bike. It is great on the freeway with the fairing. I've thought of the CBR650R, but my bike is just as fast in the city and at top end, and my bike is a lot lighter. I've thought of a SV650, but it would suffer on the freeway compared to mine.
Do the small naked bike class mt 03, Duke 390, Z400
Ploi Anderson Don‘t forget the Honda CB300R very beautiful bike.
*Laughs in CBR250RR
AlanGolden 032 But that’s not a small cc naked bike.
arent they just the naked versons of the sporty small bikes, like isnt the only diffrence looks, as he have alredy done a series on the small cc sport bikes
@@hathaway.1166 zx25r says hi
The Honda wins for me, that’s why I bought one 3 weeks ago. I love sport motorcycles, but I didn’t want the harshness of a super sport, so the CBR does it for me in every way.
The Ninja 650 is just plain boring in my eyes. I agree that it’s a great bike for someone looking to step up from a smaller displacement that wants a commuter bike, but as far as excitement goes, it does nothing for me. Great price though on this bike.
The SVX I would totally own if I already had a sport bike. It’s definitely the coolest looking of all these 3 bikes. It would be a bike that makes you look and feel cool all day long. Now since I own the CBR, and if I was looking for another bike, I would definitely go ride one of these and probably buy it to have something totally different from what I or anyone else already has.
Good job Chase!
Ben Vu I have the 650R’s little brother, the 500R. If I were to upgrade and get a little step up in performance, do you think the 650R would be a good choice?
Cbr because I put alot of highway miles every summer. I am actually considering trading in my cbr 500r for the new 650 as we speak. I also currently own a 82 v45 magna cafe/bobber setup for cruising and getting it from time to time.
Really like the back to back because it’s easy to watch and compare info without forgetting things about past bikes!
In Australia, the ninja is $12,800 the Honda is $13,250. I was keen on the Ninja as my first bike, but the Honda seems like a no brainer with that in mind.
I used my Ninja for Touring most of the time. And what we need during touring is a good ergonomic, not to tuck in all the time touring with distance up to 100km and above. 2nd, windshield should be tall to protect you from strong wind and your body will had less fatigue against with the wind. What I don't like about this Ninja is you can go full throttle with full comfortable like mine, sprocket down to 42T, 3 boxes and tall windshield, but in exchange of comfortable, you had to give in on fuel consumption. It's really bad, full throttle 205km/h will give you an Average of 15km/L. But that kinda average are better than any 4 inline bike that on half of throttle or in half of it's top speed.
Still, my Ninja is the best. If I want to upgrade, I will go for CBR650R for it's 4 inline and higher topspeed than Ninja 650. 650cc class is the best body to weight look than 1000cc, bigger body more weight.
You didn't mention your height/weight -surely a Factor too ??? Appreciate all yr wise comments though.
LOVE the new style and method of comparison, please do this more with other types of bikes. ie. dual sports , touring, liter, dirt, cruiser...would love to see all those videos =]
this style of comparing bikes is dank! keep it up chase. good sh*t
But in real life, if you can only own one bike that has to do everything, the grocery run, the freeway at speed and daily commuting, as much as we say "oh the Honda is more fun" or "such and such a bike is more aesthetically pleasing" or whatever, most of us are probably gonna end up on the Ninja 650 right? Well, that's how it played out for me and I bet it's a pretty common story.
Well done. You have a talent for giving information along with opinions and letting people decide for themselves. Thanks for this. You've got talent.
I have never ridden before and at 42 yrs old. I want to buy a motorcycle and keep that motorcycle for many years. I’d rather learn on the Kawi but I feel the best buy is the Honda. It would look great parked beside my Honda ATV also. 😏
Very good article, well explained.
Ninja 650 I got a 25 inch inseem and can almost flat foot the sv I can tippy toe and the Honda don’t ask me why but I can almost flat foot even tho it’s higher I’m a city guy and use the highway
I commute (60 miles round trip) with Ninja 300. 50% (20 mins) and 50% (40 mins) city traffic in terms of distance. I used to be soooo torn between Ninja 400 vs 650.. And.. Now between Ninja 650 and CBR650R.. 😞😩
@The Underground Man nah he should get a busa or a zx13r
🤪😜😳😅🤣.. At my level of riding, I will easily get into trouble!! You guys seem to hate the fellow rider.... Lol.. 😩😞... 😆
@@Tobeon2 m8 i was just joking... get whatever u want, test ride it before to see if u like it and thats it
@@vali69 Hahaha.. I know... But what if I like both girls .... I mean bikes??! 🤪😜
Sick camera work in this video - subscribing
really, a cut above, good work
Grouping these is an awesome way to get all the info at once. Can’t wait to see who wins!!!!
Nice video man I’m looking into this category of bikes to add a sport bike to my garage to go with my Harley. Just subscribed bro, keep up the good work 🤘🏽
Ninja fix
1 ergo seat/ luminoto/ stunt seat
2 raise the bars.
Extras. Windscreen, Sprockets,
Anything after that. Go full custom
Or skip & go w/ ZX-635R
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Personally I think I would pick the Ninja 650, I am 56 years old and don't need speed and agility. I am looking for a sporty bike that is light weight and that I can comute to and from work. I do have other bikes that I use (Indian Chieftain Elite, Can Am RT limited and Honda ST1300). Really I'm looking to replace the Honda ST1300 due to so heavy and moving it around the shop is harder now a days. I think I would like the Honda over the Kawasaki if I was to be riding on the highway more but that's what my big bikes are for. The Suzuki looks cool but in Texas I need a full windshield due to the wind all the time. Great vid I'm looking at all vids to see what others like. Also looking at the new Suzuki GSX and the Ninja 1000sx. I would like to see a comparison of those.
Well I'm 3 yrs too late for my comment to be even slightly relevant but... this was a great production, really informative and fun.. in fact you SHOULD be commissioned by Netflix..! 🤔👌🏾
Anyway, I'm one of those people that finds a product then realises the brand quality and sticks by it. In this case the Honda CBR650R to me is a winner because of the power, the styling and the ergonomics.. it pretty much just ticks all the boxes for me.. in fact since 2008, (when I passed my test) I've owned only Honda's except for a few months when I went the Ninja 600 route, which was ok but shortly after I went back to Honda. What can I say.. the heart wants what the heart wants 🥰😎
Keep up the good work.. you're killing it man..!
15:00 supersports are like 12, 13, 14, 15 grand. My man forgot the ZX6R badass Kawi for $9999
Outro crew: CBR 650r. I personally think the cbr is best n class bcuz of its power output and style. I like that it’s standard led lighting and it’s reliability. I also like that it’s a nice beginner style bike that newer riders don’t have 2 feel that they’re out growing 2 soon. I also like that u record these videos everyday so I don’t have 2 wait all week 4 footage(like low cc comparisons). I kno it’s great work but many viewers don’t have 2 dedicate as much tyme 2 watching ur videos.
Please please please do the baby nakeds! Yamaha MT-03, Kawasaki Z400, Honda CB300R, Suzuki GW250.
I think we can omit the Suzuki
Too bad Yamaha discontinued the FZ6R. That would rival your inline 4 Honda very well.
The Suzuki is my favourite. My 2004 SV 650s still runs great. I will buy another because the v twin motor is so smooth and refined, is great on fuel, and the bike handles like a dream.
Love the twins. More power where you need it. Lighter, more narrow. But.. I’m not gonna lie. I really miss them in-line fours.
Love the format!
Love the vid keep up the great work. Be safe out there. 💯🤞🏽