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  • Looking to soundproof your home and create a more relaxing environment? We can help!
    Most homes don't have enough soundproofing between floors-luckily, this is a project you can tackle yourself! In today's video, I'll break down how you can soundproof a floor cavity by opening your ceiling and installing multiple layers of sound-dampening material. PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT INCLUDED!
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  • @brandysmitg4016
    @brandysmitg4016 Рік тому +43

    This guy has been giving me some of the most detailed, brilliant advise for years. You've helped me through so many projects. Thank you!

  • @theunknownsamurai7426
    @theunknownsamurai7426 2 роки тому +166

    Many UA-cam channels are geared toward the US, as a Canadian it's difficult to get our hands on some products. I really appreciate the content that you're putting up. Thanks again!

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому +8

      Wow, thank you! Cheers!

    • @joshymcdaniel9233
      @joshymcdaniel9233 2 роки тому +2

      I’m n the us just curious how is osb price in ca currently? As it comes from ca I’d imagine it’s cheaper there’ we made it to $78 in wyoming then it went back down to about $19 a sheet now back up to $50 a sheet

    • @theunknownsamurai7426
      @theunknownsamurai7426 2 роки тому +3

      @@joshymcdaniel9233 One would think it's cheaper, but it's not. OSB 3/4" 4x8 tongue and groove is $75 plus tax, that's $86.24 CAN.

    • @nipzie
      @nipzie 2 роки тому

      @@joshymcdaniel9233 you'd think so but no. Even our beer is more expensive here than it is there as an imported beer. You get less taxes and a dollar with more purchase power.

    • @crosisofborg5524
      @crosisofborg5524 2 роки тому +6

      @@nipzie you all should stop voting for the liberal party if you don’t like high taxes.

  • @Sticksandstones292
    @Sticksandstones292 Рік тому +7

    So glad you addressed lighting, many people overlook this and put large 4” holes through their expensive soundproofing material. Open spaces are the single biggest transmitter of sound. I feel theirs other ways to do this but I’m glad you have an idea how to do it!

  • @garryiyer3976
    @garryiyer3976 Рік тому +14

    We have a rental property and we live on the main floor. We undertook a massive renovation of both basement and main floor (which is yet to be completed). This video helped us with understanding how to sound proof between each floor. In the basement we did Rockwool between rafters -> Sonopan -> 5/8th Drywall -> drop ceiling.
    On our main floor we had rockwool between floor joists already, so we didn’t bother redoing the drywalls instead we added Sonopan to existing ceiling then added strapping wood and nailed tongue and groove pine to the ceiling.
    Sonopan is a lifesaver! It works and you could tell the difference when speaking in a room with and without it!
    Thanks for the video Jeff! Cheers!

  • @johnappleseed203
    @johnappleseed203 2 роки тому +23

    I'm going to drive from Minneapolis, Minnesota to Thunder Bay, Ontario (6 hour drive) just to get that soundproofing panels for my duplex. Love your videos

    • @sergiochannels1248
      @sergiochannels1248 2 роки тому +2

      Bring me some to Anoka!!!

    • @natalieheiman3873
      @natalieheiman3873 2 роки тому +1

      Did you go yet? I’ll pay for some in Lakeville.

    • @buzzen812
      @buzzen812 2 роки тому +3

      Same Eden prairie. Can we hire a truck? Bring back a full 40ft trailer

  • @robertapreston4200
    @robertapreston4200 2 роки тому +1

    great vid Jeff... and your calmer than normal demeanor, boasts true confidence. 👍👍thx, cheers

  • @fzane14
    @fzane14 6 місяців тому +1

    Best Canadian DIY Home Reno channel. Can’t thank you enough Jeff!

  • @simpsonmbm
    @simpsonmbm 2 роки тому +2

    Of all of the hosts of different home improvement channels I enjoy, you'd be my pick to work on a project with or to just have lunch together to enjoy a chat for an hour!

  • @arscoa
    @arscoa 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the update! Doing this job this job next weekend

  • @jazhar1111
    @jazhar1111 2 роки тому +62

    I used Rockwool with a resilient channel for my basement ceiling. For the flooring above the basement ceiling we uses Iso-step floor underlayment. Might of been overkill, but it sure made a difference.

    • @Industrialitis
      @Industrialitis 2 роки тому +6

      RC makes a big difference, double layer drywall too.

    • @hilarycopp
      @hilarycopp 2 роки тому +9

      Resilient channel and rockwool made our basement bathroom into the cone of silence. Can't hear the water running from upstairs and can't hear the screaming and thumping around from downstairs! Very peaceful!

    • @Jubileejones
      @Jubileejones Рік тому +1

      @@hilarycopp Did you use the clips with the resilient channel? Or did you just attach the drywall directly to the channel?

    • @progression_decibel
      @progression_decibel Рік тому +1

      I would like to know as well!

    • @kvil1537
      @kvil1537 Рік тому +1

      How thick was the Iso-Step underlayment? I see 2, 5, 6, 10, and 12 mm.

  • @gurprasadsingh4792
    @gurprasadsingh4792 Рік тому

    This is Not Complicated
    Excellent ideas
    You shown a Professional effective way
    Excellent explanation
    Well done

  • @seanhiscock
    @seanhiscock 2 роки тому

    Love the light box tip. Thanks.

  • @liamhawthorne9798
    @liamhawthorne9798 Рік тому

    I think this video just answered my sonopan question from another post. I'm in the Montreal area and sonopan is found just about anywhere. I'm in the planning process of finishing my basement for rent out in my house. I just might add the pink stuff and double drywall as well since my basement has a high ceiling. Thank you for all your tips and videos!

  • @burns_o_matic
    @burns_o_matic 2 роки тому +18

    This is what I've been looking for, watched a bunch of your other soundproofing videos, and the between floors is what I really need, due to loud upstairs neighbours. Thanks!

    • @jm8997
      @jm8997 2 роки тому +2

      Another option is to move to a home with no upstairs neighbors

    • @burns_o_matic
      @burns_o_matic 2 роки тому +4

      @@jm8997 well, sure, but I own the house, lol.

    • @HisaLight2mypath
      @HisaLight2mypath 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jm8997I would do that if I could but I can't afford to move

    • @HisaLight2mypath
      @HisaLight2mypath 8 місяців тому

      ​@@burns_o_maticdid you open up the ceiling and attempt to do this?

    • @burns_o_matic
      @burns_o_matic 8 місяців тому

      @@HisaLight2mypath Well, we've opened up the ceiling and put insulation up, but the project remains unfinished, as of yet. We have space for an air gap, and we got resilient channel and 5/8 drywall, to complete the ceiling. Hopefully, it will get finished over the winter.

  • @dyyy270
    @dyyy270 10 місяців тому

    You’ve given me hope. Thank you!!

  • @kevindavison6019
    @kevindavison6019 Рік тому +1

    Second layer of drywall s great!! I hung the rock on the rooms i wasn't soundproofing first and saved all the scraps to make the first layer of drywall on the bedroom. It not only didn't cost me anything but also saved weight in the dumpster that I otherwise would have had to pay to have removed.

  • @shawnhayden6674
    @shawnhayden6674 2 роки тому +6

    After 20+ years of accoustic residential/commercial design work, the most cost effective response is to install thick underlay and high pile carpet on top...upstairs, that is. As a recording studio builder I have had great results with Sonopan and 2x 5/8" drywall. Roxul insulation is great too. More density deadens noise. In the end, sound control comes from treatment below AND above for best results.

    • @melaniegutierrez2448
      @melaniegutierrez2448 Рік тому

      Hi Shawn, do you recommend this for a condo? Downstairs neighbors can hear our every step. Structure is made out of wood.

    • @shawnhayden6674
      @shawnhayden6674 Рік тому +1

      @@melaniegutierrez2448 Tiled flooring over a mortar/mesh bed adds tremendous density for sound control. Area rugs and hallway runners on top of such a floor further reduce sound transfer.

    • @melaniegutierrez2448
      @melaniegutierrez2448 Рік тому

      @@shawnhayden6674 Thank you for your reply! How about the stairs? Is it necessary to use different material or can we use the same as the other rooms?

  • @Yellowjacket1977
    @Yellowjacket1977 Рік тому +1

    COOL! Hey Jeff, I just sent you a comment about building my in-home studio. You just gave me a great idea to use a drop ceiling with soundproof panels!! Plus, that will give me better access to my attic storage! Thanks a lot!! Cubby

  • @bokadesh6840
    @bokadesh6840 2 роки тому

    Jeff,
    I have used various materials and technology but the cheapest, easiest and most effective above all is "RockWool safe and sound" insulation. Works very well and I am impressed with it, comparing with more expensive solutions. I used regular 1/2 drywall and fiber glass tapes to joint drywalls.

  • @simonanne_com
    @simonanne_com Рік тому

    Great video, very well explained.. thanks! I would like to add that air can be your friend as well. Sound looses energy when transferring from one medium to another, so an air gap between the isolation layers would act as a barrier as well. Ofcourse, the number 1 thing you need is mass for the sound to transfer to, so make sure there aren't any air leaks or i.e. nails that will transfer the vibrations from one layer to another.

  • @kevincaz
    @kevincaz 2 роки тому

    Good stuff. Thanks, Jeff.

  • @mikejbart
    @mikejbart 2 роки тому +2

    I’m excited for the next video, we are redoing the basement drop ceiling in a few weeks so perfect timing.

  • @gmo2932
    @gmo2932 2 роки тому +2

    He mentioned it fast but sound glue between the two sheets is the best. Also using soundproofing hinges which go between the top wood and Sheetrock.
    Sound travels through the wood by making the wood vibrate to the bottom. Those are steps, movements etc that travel through.
    I haven’t hear about sonopan, looks cool.
    This is common for music studio acustic construction if anyone wants to research more.

  • @jazzlouise
    @jazzlouise Рік тому

    Nice video and great suggestions!

  • @gurprasadsingh4792
    @gurprasadsingh4792 Рік тому

    Great video
    You are great explaining
    Well done

  • @zacharyfeidler6715
    @zacharyfeidler6715 2 роки тому

    Awesome video! Thanks!

  • @jenniferasalcedo
    @jenniferasalcedo 2 роки тому

    You rock! Can't wait to do this on my next home.

  • @number1pappy
    @number1pappy 2 роки тому +31

    We installed mass loaded vinyl in our home theater walls and ceiling, and that led us to doing it in our master bedroom. It was the best thing we ever did for sleeping soundly. It worked out to about $2 dollars a square foot for the vinyl. We also installed 5/8 inch drywall sound board. It's amazing! It wasn't cheap ,but we think it was worth it!

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому +3

      well done.

    • @sswizard
      @sswizard 2 роки тому

      Did you use a hat channel for the drywall, or did you skip that?

    • @kevinji7285
      @kevinji7285 2 роки тому +3

      mlv release chemical, that why I decided not to use it :)

    • @number1pappy
      @number1pappy 2 роки тому +7

      @sswizard we used "resilient channels " and decoupling clips in our home theater walls. However we didn't use decoupling clips ,we just used resilient channels in our bedroom because frankly I got tired of the suction sound from my bank account! Lol! We didn't need the same intensive sound proofing in our bedroom like we needed in our theater room. Hope that makes sense.

    • @number1pappy
      @number1pappy 2 роки тому +4

      @Kevin Ji we did notice a "rubber smell" for a couple of days right after installing the mass loaded vinyl, but it was totally gone 48 hours later. There were approximately 5 or 6 days between installing the "MLV" and installing the sheetrock. I suppose if you're sensitive to that sort of thing, it would be an issue. It wasn't for us.

  • @mistyrosemarie
    @mistyrosemarie 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you for this video! We just bought a split level and we really need some sound proofing because the "basement" is used for living space. We already have a drop ceiling, but no insulation at all. I'm very excited for the next video showing sound proofing with a drop ceiling!

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @m_hall
      @m_hall 2 роки тому

      @@HomeRenoVisionDIY So glad I found this channel. Your content is really well done. I have a similar situation to the original commenter. If you were redoing the upstairs floors instead of the basement ceilings to achieve similar results, what would you do? Looks like subflooring is a lot more expensive then drywall (at first I was going to suggest I could add more insulation after removing the subfloor, but that would really drive up costs). Is putting down a later of MLV between the subfloor and hardwood really the only cost effective option at that point?

    • @sonopan_msl
      @sonopan_msl 2 роки тому

      To soundproof and use a drop ceiling install insulation in the cavity then SONOpan OVER the joists. make sure to mark out the joist locations or go by the screw locations on the SONOpan then install the drop ceiling as usual. If you ever need access simply cut the SONOpan with a knife and secure it back in place when you're done.

    • @jasminet3323
      @jasminet3323 Рік тому

      @@HomeRenoVisionDIY Please help!! I'm renting, is there anything that I can do that is renter friendly. There is no insulation between the floor upstairs and the basement ceiling

  • @DIYBuilt
    @DIYBuilt 2 роки тому +1

    Lots of great soundproofing ideas, thanks for the video

  • @drewzbuildz3251
    @drewzbuildz3251 2 роки тому

    Great video with great information 👍🏼

  • @lemon4400
    @lemon4400 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the content Jeff from home renovision

  • @pedrocoentro2009
    @pedrocoentro2009 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing, i want to insulate an attic, it´s just for the wind that comes thru the cracks and the noise of rain. Now i know one layer for that is enough :)

  • @jasonbrush5823
    @jasonbrush5823 2 роки тому +22

    Great vid. Definitely a different question if passing inspections in new construction vs. the DIYer, but if you're just working for yourself, I've found results are best by understanding principles and looking for cheapest way to achieve. The key concepts are density, isolation, and looseness. Everyone can understand the concept of a leak. Everyone can understand "tight as a drum" being bad because...drums resonate. Visualize a sealed, isolated (decoupled/"floating") room--a framed box inside a framed box--as the conceptual ideal, and then go from there as code/circumstances allow.
    For walls, you can use cheap 2x4 as a french cleat, with contacting surfaces covered in closed-cell foam tape , thus decoupling from studs. Similarly, any separation of the ceiling surface from the joists will help. Air is not your enemy--leaks are ; unsealed air is just one form of leak. Air gaps can be effective if well-sealed and having material of different densities on either side of the air gap to break/modify the waveform. Other "leaks" are your enemy--holes obviously, but also the fasteners themselves, which create a metal (highly transmissive) link between the spaces and really add up. Use the minimum number and and use a *flexible* sealer on the screw heads before you mud over. Keep joints loose (tight things resonate), like a 1/16 gap between drywall joints and corners, and fill gaps with a sealant that stays flexible.
    Finally, how do you do lighting? Anything but cans, people! Sure, you can engineer sound boxes for cans, but if you're trying to save money/time for results, but just use a damn desk lamp or two! Or wall mounted LED strip stuff...or...ANYTHING but cutting a giant sound hole in your treatment! Good luck everyone - you can get good enough results for most applications (theater, office...but not recording booth) fairly cheaply, especially if you can sacrifice a few inches of room to isolate those big flat surfaces, layer different densities, and keep things loose.🤘🤘👍

    • @ssoffshore5111
      @ssoffshore5111 2 роки тому +1

      If you're forced to cut holes for cans, boxes, etc, making a "sound box" above as he shows helps, but another good tip is to cover the top/exterior box/can with a decent layer of modeling clay that won't harden.

  • @j.flynnmusic
    @j.flynnmusic 2 роки тому

    Nice job. Just built sound panels with sonapan..looking forward to seeing drop ceiling video

  • @markokrasa3584
    @markokrasa3584 2 роки тому

    Thanks for teaching

  • @steengolf
    @steengolf 2 роки тому +8

    Love your videos Jeff! Helps me a bunch!
    Was actually looking to see if you had done a video on how to do a drop down ceiling and sadly didn’t find one, so very happy that your next video is exactly on that subject.
    Do you have an ETA on that drop down ceiling video?

  • @matthewmoeller7518
    @matthewmoeller7518 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video. I’m looking to soundproof a drum room in my basement. If I can find the sonopan in the states I’m going to use that plus 2 layers of drywall and green glue because I already have a bunch.
    Unfortunately I have a lot of ductwork in the room. With your experience what is the best way I can stop sound from traveling through the ductwork for a drum room?
    Thank you!

  • @abefroman3903
    @abefroman3903 2 роки тому +3

    those lights work great .with a plumb laser I marked were all my boxes were on the floor. After mud tape and paint were done, found marks on floor /lasered up /holesawed and snapped in the lights

  • @josegomez6549
    @josegomez6549 2 роки тому +4

    Would making the box smaller help?
    In my head it seems like a better install. Prep where you want lighting at, frame something out for it, then just do a cutout for the box, or the box is right above the green board (soundpan I think), and then cut the drywall for the light itself.
    Seems like it'd work better. What do you think?

  • @kylejones4149
    @kylejones4149 2 роки тому

    Thanks Jeff!

  • @dannysmith8035
    @dannysmith8035 2 роки тому

    i like the costing approach to this problem

  • @Verdad2024
    @Verdad2024 2 роки тому

    Thanks to him I renovated my parents house DIY. I saved thousands.

  • @200MPHCLUB.
    @200MPHCLUB. 3 місяці тому

    Great video!

  • @ycplum7062
    @ycplum7062 Рік тому +2

    Sound is airborne vibration. You get two types of noise through walls/floors. Sound can pass through these barriers, but it is also possible to have vibration (vibration from walking over the floor, dropped object, etc.) transmitted through solid objects (e.g. wood joists and studs) and then excite the air to produce sound. Your green matting helps against both sound and vibration. The pick insulation is useless against vibration.

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 Рік тому

    Very interesting and edifying. I also enjoy the comments below.

  • @rodjames1693
    @rodjames1693 2 роки тому +1

    We just soundproofed a basement. With Sonoboard and regular drywall. The sonoboard leaves a greenish powder and flecks all over the place so cover any carpets .....Cuts with drywall knife the best (score 3 times!) My buddy decided to use pink insulation....I would have used safe n sound. The results were satisfactory, but not perfect! The upstairs family are very loud and the children are unruly!
    The sound of voices are gone the music also gone. The walking, jumping, sliding patio door and floor creaking are all still present. I attached the Sonoboard using narrow crown 18 gauge 1 1/2 inch staples and then 2" drywall screws, for the drwall layer to keep it all tight. Like I said....would probably be better with Roxul because it's dense. Good job Jeff! Cheers

    • @josegomez6549
      @josegomez6549 2 роки тому

      He said that the fiberglass is better for that since it has more fibers
      Idk myself, just reiterating. Wonder which one does better though. I have a feeling he's right tho lol

  • @Sticksandstones292
    @Sticksandstones292 Рік тому +2

    Hey Jeff, big fan. I have noticed on almost all soundproofing videos (not just yours) there’s no mention of doubling the top plate of a framed wall to compensate for the amount of space two pieces of 5/8 drywall or Sonopan with drywall with res channel would take.
    While this is probably obvious for an experienced contractor, DIY’ers like myself might run into the problem of having to back the framed wall after the fact. ( my situation now) lol.

  • @paulflores7292
    @paulflores7292 Рік тому +1

    I used pink insulation 2lbs loaded vinyl mass with resilient channels and 2 layers of 5/8 drywall with green glue in between . Perfecto!

  • @tuxedopanda4464
    @tuxedopanda4464 2 роки тому +1

    You are the GOAT! I'm gonna make my own studio in my apartment and you got me so AMP'd to do so. No Sonopan but ill make it work.

    • @ProFriend
      @ProFriend 2 роки тому +1

      Use high-density acoustic insulation (not the pink thermal stuff) and double 5/8" fire-code drywall. That will give good results, but there are still more ways. Jeff got most of it right.

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому +1

      if you can't get a hold of MLV then use resilient channel and green glue between layers. Cheers!

  • @ianmajor6625
    @ianmajor6625 2 роки тому

    Great video, I lalready have a drop ceiling, wondering about adding pink insulation - is there anything that needs to be done around electrical wires, plumbing, etc? House was built late 80's so wires go through floor joists in 1 inch holes. Anything to make it fire safe?

  • @georgetasiopoulos6928
    @georgetasiopoulos6928 Рік тому +4

    Great video Jeff, thanks a bunch! I almost did a renovation until I saw your video. I had a number of people come through and quote all sorts of layers and everyone had a different theory with some crazy prices. So I decided I'm going to do it myself just like you said. I did have 3 key questions;
    1) how do you soundproof around ductwork (rigid plenum as well as insulated flex)? I'm guessing whatever you do for duct also applies to 4" SCHED 40 waste pipes.
    2) Screws; all these acoustic sites talk about 'decoupling' fasteners from material but you seem to be using one fastener to sandwich the layers directly to the wood furring. Isn't direct screw going to negate all the soundproofing?
    3) Lastly drywall gaps; you recommend standard taping while acoustic sites warn against it and recommend to leave a 1/8" gap and fill it with acoustic caulking.
    Is this overkill or does it really make the difference? Looking forward to understanding this too. Keep those videos coming!

  • @garymahan1096
    @garymahan1096 2 роки тому +2

    I have watched all of your former basement sound proofing videos. Last year I finished out my 2000 sq ft basement, I choose to put in R19 insulation between all joists, to begin with. Around all PVC drains in the ceiling and soffits I used rockwool to dampen the the water noise coming from the PVC drains. I also have many HVAC ducts in between the joists as well. I also installed many recessed 6 inch lighting cans in all the rooms. So my choice for drywall was a layer of 1/2 inch with a second layer of 1/2 inch with Green Glue in between. I did not have high hopes for my efforts, but was shocked with my results. I eliminated 98% percent of the noise from the above floor (hardwood) to the basement and 100% from the basement to the floor above. I have a theater space, UA-cam studio, and I never hear the plumbing when the drains are being used. The insulation, as you indicated was very cheap, and using two layers of 1/2 inch drywall with green glue was great. My overall costs were more than reasonable for the results I got! Note: I do like the fiber board that you showed in this video and had I known would have tried it. Thanks for your videos they offer great consideration when I make my building decisions.

    • @bradkastephens
      @bradkastephens 2 роки тому

      whats green glue?

    • @garymahan1096
      @garymahan1096 2 роки тому

      Acoustic caulk sealant “Green Glue”. A compound that doesn’t really dry but spreads between the sheets of dry wall. It breaks the transmission of sound waves through the solid wall board. It really works, 1 to 2 tubes per 4 x 12 sheet of dry wall. Note the second sheet is screwed not glued to the first sheet, the compound is applied to the 2nd sheet before installing.

  • @ProFriend
    @ProFriend 2 роки тому +8

    Jeff - I used to build broadcast studios, and we took soundproofing close to 90%+ reduction. You missed a couple of key concepts that apply to all soundproofing efforts. High-frequency sounds can be absorbed by insulation, but low-frequency sounds cannot. For that, you need something that won't vibrate and mechanically transmit sound to the space on the other side of the wall. So, we used several techniques - sound-absorbing high-density acoustic insulation (not the pink thermal stuff - it's next to useless), and sound-deadening material, usually dual layers of 5/8" high density drywall.
    There's a third technique called an "acoustic break." We'd stud up two 2x4 walls side by side, 1/2" apart, and fill the void with acoustic insulation, then put the double 5/8" drywall on both walls. You can get almost as good results with a 6" plate and 2x4 studs staggered.
    Doors are another problem - we created sound-locks with short hallways, and commercial solid-core acoustic doors with rubber seals. The commercial doors are too expensive for most homes, but a regular solid-core door is a must.
    Drop ceilings were a must in studios for the reasons you discussed, but we had to be careful to rivet all the connections and used heavy fire-rated panels. That was in addition to the double 5/8" drywall on the ceiling. Even in a residential installation, just insulation and a drop ceiling isn't enough. You still need the double drywall on the joists above the drop ceiling. That also goes for single-story homes to avoid low-frequency sound transmission through the attic space.
    All wiring was on the surface, both in the void above the drop ceiling, and on the walls. Wiring penetrations were staggered by several feet to prevent sound transmission.
    Much of this is overkill for most residential jobs, but not if you have a rock band practicing in your basement, or even just a drummer. There are other tricks to consider as well, like carpeting with thick pads, and diffraction fixtures in the room to break up reflections. For studios, we even glued acoustic carpet to the walls! The more sound you can absorb inside the space, the less there will be to escape.

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому +1

      the easy fix for homeowners who want great stereo when watching a movie is go wireless headphone. a fraction of the cost and the rest of the house is happy.

    • @Drizzt573
      @Drizzt573 2 роки тому

      @@HomeRenoVisionDIY honestly, though. This is step one to curtesy! - and happens to be step one to sound pollution reduction.
      Acoustic treatments are as much of a void to enter as plumbing is, for the unexpecting homeowner!

  • @fourrs4262
    @fourrs4262 2 роки тому +17

    Thank you for this. We are soundproofing this week. Thanks for including information on light fixtures.
    Safe and sound insulation + res bar + 2 layers of drywall. It is much more expensive than your options but it is a rental unit and I don't want to need to do it again...

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому +8

      great point. there is a difference in expectation from single family to multiple dwelling for sure.

    • @jasonfitzgerald6334
      @jasonfitzgerald6334 2 роки тому +3

      @@HomeRenoVisionDIY That's an awesome trick for the lights! I went with 4" surface mount LED's so that I could use metal J-boxes and block them with putty pads. It was fairly expensive!

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому +1

      cheers

    • @rodjames1693
      @rodjames1693 2 роки тому +2

      That is gonna be great!!! 👍 👌 Are you also using Sonoboard?

    • @jasonfitzgerald6334
      @jasonfitzgerald6334 2 роки тому +1

      @@rodjames1693 thanks to Jeff's recent videos, he caught me just in time to add this to my construction. I think you've convinced me that i owe him some appreciation in form of membership! My ceiling construction between dwellings is 2 layers of insulation, forementioned lighting, sonoboard, resiliant channel, two layers of 5/8" type x drywall w/ green glue between. All joints offset w/ acoustic sealant between first layer joints.

  • @gersonbystronski2198
    @gersonbystronski2198 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the very helpfull video. I`m planning to make a wall outside to deflect the pool machinery noise. Does the fiber board suvive the hot and cold weather (inside a waterproof wall)?

  • @dgb5820
    @dgb5820 2 роки тому +1

    I have been waiting for this video well done

  • @JNeathawk
    @JNeathawk 2 роки тому +10

    I love the info. I'm interested to know if there is anything you would change if someone wanted to do a recessed ceiling. That's right. I want to leave the exposed wood (probably paint black) and stuff some sound proofing in between. I have a low ceiling and I want to maximize what little space I have.

    • @johnwright2205
      @johnwright2205 2 роки тому +2

      I second this, I'm wondering if I shove rockwool or something like that inbetween, but I worry sheetrocking will make my 7 foot ceiling feel too low.

  • @maadamos56
    @maadamos56 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @soulmalia
    @soulmalia 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Saul!

  • @stytos
    @stytos Рік тому +1

    I found out that the nearest Canadian Home Depot is only 12.5 hrs away. My plan, when I get that far, is to rent a one-way trailer and go up there, get a butt-ton of Sonopan, and bring it back (towed by my suburban) for sound-proofing in my basement. This way, I can have the best of both worlds. And, having extra tall ceilings will help with not feeling like I'm in a cave.

    • @sixhunnit5088
      @sixhunnit5088 Рік тому

      I need 36 in Texas would u make a trip for me if I were to pay u 500$I would fly out to u and drive them back to Texas

  • @craigsherwood1465
    @craigsherwood1465 Рік тому

    Do you know if that 8/4 soundproofing sheeting is available in the UK? Thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer.

  • @tiogah
    @tiogah 2 роки тому

    Amazing. You're a god lad. This will definitely come in handy

  • @plshalpmei
    @plshalpmei 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Why can't you build a SONOpan box around the standard lighting boxes to prevent sound escaping, just like you did for potlights?

  • @glennmaguire9916
    @glennmaguire9916 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video! I wish I had watched this before we built my wife's home office! My home is rather old 1853 with wood floors on the first floor and open joists in the basement. Due to the age of the house they used huge cut timber which looks rather cool. I am starting a man cave and would love to keep the joists visible. Is there a way to do the sound proofing while still leaving the joists visible? Joists are 7 3/4" x 3" space between is between 25 inches and just under 30" no there was no building codes then. I am not saying money isn't an issue because if my wife ever read this she would kill me. But I plan on doing it perfectly so if I only have enough to start in one spot and progress out I will. Thank you!

  • @JtotheRizzo
    @JtotheRizzo 2 роки тому

    An old-timer contractor once told me to put 1 layer of regular pink insulation and several 4ft x 50ft rolls of soundproof felt padding and staple it to the joists. Then add the drywall. The felt will reduce both sound waves of voices, music AND knocking, footsteps, etc.

  • @Mr1Musiclover
    @Mr1Musiclover 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @functionalvanconversion4284

    Great information! While I've undertaken soundproofing projects like this, the extra product knowledge is much appreciated. My concern with these types of material sandwiching is what happens when you have a plumbing leak. There currently seems to be no plumbing connectors that have withstood the test of time (including copper or upononor). Would running chases be a good idea around sound proofed locations?

  • @AlexandreMMadeira
    @AlexandreMMadeira 2 роки тому

    What do you think about cork isolation for floors, wall and even ceilings? thank you, love your channel!

  • @KaaFOFO
    @KaaFOFO 2 роки тому

    This is genius. I just installed sonopan for my daughter's bedroom and was frustrated by sound coming in through the outlet holes. This solves that which is great as I didn't install drywall yet 😀.

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому

      Glad it helped. Cheers!

    • @steffen707-
      @steffen707- 2 роки тому +1

      I'm going to bring my wire through first layer of drywall, then install a 5/8" shallow pan box to first layer of drywall, put second sheet over, cut hole for box and use flush mount led lights. I'll only have the wires poking through the first layer and I'll caulk them up good. Using vapor barrier jbox for outlet boxes with a putty pad on the backside of each. It's a PITA, but I never want to do this basement again.

    • @KaaFOFO
      @KaaFOFO 2 роки тому

      Update here, I did this technique around outlets and it's a night & day difference. Thanks Jeff!

  • @Jester62D
    @Jester62D 2 роки тому

    Sound also will propagate through the drywall to the strapping to the floor joist, following the solid material path. I solved this by adding fiberglass in between floor joists AND I purchased 1.00" thick foil backed EPS (expanded polystyrene) sheets and glued them to the sheet of drywall. Noise vibrations can't move through the EPS. I can play my stereo at an uncomfortable level and barely anything is heard in the BdRm above. The EPS was less expensive than the Hat-channel others were using in their basements.

  • @kapdolkim1914
    @kapdolkim1914 2 роки тому +5

    If you are using multiple layers of drywall, you can find the thinner led lights, rip the clips off and glue it to the last layer of drywall - and just poke a small hole in the upper layer of drywall and run the wire through.

  • @npjutras
    @npjutras Рік тому +17

    Rockwool (aka mineral wool) is superior to fiberglass in the acoustic insulation department and it's easier to install. Also, I'm not sure why resilient channel wasn't covered (unless I missed it). Vibrations from foot traffic above will transfer through the joists, blocking, and drywall and it is the role of the resilient channel to disrupt that transmission.

    • @thetruth4519
      @thetruth4519 Рік тому +2

      Completely agree

    • @morlamweb
      @morlamweb Рік тому

      @@thetruth4519 Me, too. I've installed two layers of it in my basement ceiling for R30 thermal resistance and near-total sound isolation between the floors.

    • @islanddan4302
      @islanddan4302 Рік тому +1

      Stc rating is very similar between fiberglass and rock wool. Not sure if it is actually better or if it’s just the advertising statements

  • @Gretsch0997
    @Gretsch0997 Рік тому

    Hi thanks for the video ! Curious as to why Rockwool wasn’t considered ?

  • @0verboosted
    @0verboosted 2 роки тому

    Great video! Do you have some feedback on how to address ductwork?

  • @briansegall1084
    @briansegall1084 Рік тому

    Thanks for making this video. Most of my basement is a rental suite, and our new tenants are a bit loud sometimes so I'm looking into soundproofing between floors when they move out.
    Unfortunately, the joist cavities have several runs of HVAC ductwork which branch off to vents above and below. In other words, both floors of the house are connected with 4" ductwork in a few places. A perfect channel to carry noise..
    Am I setting myself up for disappointment here? Should I bother soundproofing?

  • @helenaneumann1872
    @helenaneumann1872 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @danjohnson8189
    @danjohnson8189 2 роки тому

    Mass Load Vinyl is available in Canada. I used it in Chilliwack, B.C. March 2020 and in Mission B.C. August 2021.

  • @fishsoft92
    @fishsoft92 2 роки тому

    I have a question. I’ve seen a lot of the floor truss system being used lately. Would this system for soundproofing work the same with trusses vs joists?

  • @stephenhopkins9541
    @stephenhopkins9541 2 роки тому

    Great information

  • @josephs2581
    @josephs2581 2 роки тому

    hey Jeff just curious -- is it effective to use sonopan instead of the fibreglass? Or is it just not really doing anything like that? my concern is, in lots of older basements we just don't have the ceiling headroom to do 5/8++, even 5/8 might be pushing it (unless you can cheat it by using thinner flooring?).
    So what would you do in that case? I guess 2 layers of fibreglass batt between joists, 5/8 drywall, and try to not notice the 1/8" less headspace and call it a day? :)

  • @aledzbuilders
    @aledzbuilders 2 роки тому

    Interesting contents.. thanks 🙏 for sharing sir

  • @josephholloway3130
    @josephholloway3130 2 роки тому

    there are whole home DC systems nowadays. that eliminates your need for AC to DC converter you were trying to make space for.
    Almost any light system can be converted to led light bulbs or 12v to 48v led light bulb systems.
    I do like your dropped ceiling idea at the end. the totally easy option for the newb and makes space for plumbing, lots of converter boxes, and the such.
    little side note, there are several companies now that make a soundproofing putty you just mush around the backside of your normal boxes after they are wired up.

  • @joshwychara8968
    @joshwychara8968 Рік тому +1

    Hey Jeff, big fan of the channel. I am renovating my basement into a rental suite but I don't have a ton of ceiling height to start layering on more sound proofing material. Does sonopan work if you screw it on in between your joist cavities instead of placing it on top of your joists/strapping? Cheers

  • @garyconley69
    @garyconley69 Рік тому

    thanks for the video. You know of any way to sound proof the aluminum roof of a cargo trailer? Thanks.

  • @kelly6715
    @kelly6715 Рік тому

    I have a partially finished walkout basement. The front more than 1/2 (about 1500) is finished with a drywall finished ceiling. The back 1/4 is our mechanical room that is completely unfinished with the floor joists open. Is it possible to get a sound barrier between the floor and ceiling between the two levels without tearing out the finished ceiling?
    Thank you for this great video and I would appreciate any advice.
    Kelly

  • @ttkhossplague8210
    @ttkhossplague8210 2 роки тому

    What are your thoughts on useing rockwool soundproofing insulation?

  • @JohnDoe-pe6iu
    @JohnDoe-pe6iu 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the very informative video. Is adding a second ceiling without tearing open the existing ceiling an option? I have high ceilings and am planning an creating a new second ceiling using the wall joists for the framing of the second ceiling. In effect the two ceilings will have about an inch of air space, following by insulation and dry rock thereby in effect "decoupling" the two ceilings. Any thoughts?

  • @mauricelee7299
    @mauricelee7299 2 роки тому

    Great video! I was wondering how to go about sound proofing an existing home. My fiance and I just purchased a home about 6 months ago and we can hear one another in every part of the home.
    She can be downstairs and I can be upstairs and we can hold a conversation without yelling. I don't like this. And I guess it doesn't help that we pulled up all the carpet and only have laminated flooring throughout.
    Would these same principles work for soundproofing bedrooms and walls in the downstairs area?

  • @ChrisCurtinATL
    @ChrisCurtinATL 2 роки тому

    Are you going to touch on fire blocking and draft stopping on the dropped ceiling video? You mentioned fire-rated on the green board but didn't talk about how to install it with the gap under the strapping to make it a valid draft stop. looking forward to the next video!

  • @garryfounds3737
    @garryfounds3737 2 роки тому +25

    Great video. I wonder, however, why you didn’t mention hat channels and clips with rubber grommets. Decoupling the drywall from the joists in this manner prevents nearly all vibrations of the drywall from passing to the joists directly. This approach, along with the other tips you mentioned, would truly be the ultimate soundproof ceiling.
    Expensive? A bit. But if you have a theater room in the basement, for example, the extra money might be worth it to the homeowner.
    I also prefer rock wool to fiberglass. Your thoughts on rock wool?

    • @mudmanKC
      @mudmanKC 2 роки тому +3

      Rockwool for 2x4 walls, fiberglass for everything else. Clips and hat channel is best practice imo.

    • @winteralfs
      @winteralfs Рік тому +3

      @@myopiczeal will any of this help with impact noise footfalls from an above condo unit? Is dense cellulose installed any benefit at all for this?

  • @alisadcoable
    @alisadcoable Рік тому

    Got a chuckle out of me with that "don't make any noise"

  • @bettyrubble9420
    @bettyrubble9420 Рік тому

    Jeff did you do the sound proof drop down ceiling video? If so pls provide the link, thank you very much for all this helpful info

  • @88omarz
    @88omarz 2 роки тому

    You think I can use sonapan to create sound traps for the music room to stop sound from bouncing around on music room? Note this is instead or in addition to insulating and using vinyl on the walls since in the us we don’t have sono pan yet.

  • @SophiaAphrodite
    @SophiaAphrodite 2 роки тому +5

    I will state that renting a lift is cheap and AMAZING! Me and a helper installed over 400 square feet of sheetrock with no experience in a ceiling in 2 hrs.

    • @HomeRenoVisionDIY
      @HomeRenoVisionDIY  2 роки тому

      Cheers to that!

    • @keithmarlowe5569
      @keithmarlowe5569 2 роки тому

      Using blocks of wood is cheaper, but not so amazing. I wish I had planned on doing the ceilings in one swoop, and rented a lift

  • @capboomer
    @capboomer 2 роки тому

    @Home RenoVision DIY ,
    What about putty pads on the light boxes?

  • @theycallmestoli
    @theycallmestoli Рік тому

    What is your thoughts on using safe and sound then Sono board and drywall?

  • @XxRyAlxXisryan
    @XxRyAlxXisryan 2 роки тому

    Would it be better to do res channel on the ceiling joists then sonopan and drywall? Would the extra cost be worth the result?

  • @jacklapointe3292
    @jacklapointe3292 2 роки тому

    hello my friend well good video , i was curious to know how for the light right instalation and how about for aeration vantilation ! all house have this from today ,thanks

  • @bigbird7145
    @bigbird7145 2 роки тому +1

    thks ooooooo so much for youre great tips !!