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By the way I thought I'd say this, stop spoiling the surprise to yourself God damn it. You're really good at that ball thing or whatever you said butt give it a f****** rest and stop rewinding it.
What I Love about this episode is that once again we explore the hypocrisy of Rick. He constantly speaks of infinite possibilities and that nothing Matters yet he created a rule in existence that :”Rick is the smartest and the only one with portal tech”. He basically created a line in infinity. Now we find out that he also created a weapon that creates rules. This time the rule says: “This person has died”. For a man obsessed with infinity it’s funny how he creates rules that eliminate infinity.
I think it's because deep inside, the concept of infinity might actually scare him. As wild as things in his life get, he only truly thrived and was happy when there was structure in his life with his wife and daughter. With that stripped, he's faced with the reality that things don't matter, everything is random, and the possibilities of things better, worse, and stagnant all at the same time stretches out to forever, and it terrifies him. Going after Rick Prime was a goal that gave him some kind of structure, at least a goal post, and that lead him to drawing a line in infinity, and adding rules to existence- forms of structures he specifically can control, adding order to a chaotic world he's only been pretending to be alright with as a means to cope. It's just my personal heacannon though.
C-137 and Rick Prime are the only two in the curve to invent portal travel on their own. C-137 and the Council created the Finite Curve, the Council to be the smartest man, but C-137 probably did it to limit Rick Prime to a technically finite slice of infinity.
I can only guess as to why Evil Morty revived Rick. 1. Rick Prime killed all Dianes (including his grandma, so he never had the chance to meet her) so the Ricks deserved their revenge. 2. Rick Prime ensured all Ricks would be nihilistic and petty, so he would want some revenge too, he just didn't feel the passion for it. 3. Our Rick is one of the few who would have preferred family life over portal travel, that's the closest to a pass for his Rickness.
4. Our Rick can revive with his backups, and if Evil Morty would have kill prime Rick, then our Rick would think that Evil Morty remove his goal/life and go after him, which Evil Morty doesn't want.
or evil morty just don't want evil rick to bother him. Since our rick bothered evil morty, I guess evil morty just want to annihilate the root problem. Cuz so far, evil morty just doesn't wanna be bothered.
Removing Prime was necessary, because he made the ultimate weapon and was directly targeting everyone - which would ultimately even kill Evil Morty by proxy. Evil Morty however probably has some level of liking when it comes to Prime Morty - which is probably why he let him keep his Rick. And it's not like they didn't collabed on this win, our Rick was one of the few Ricks that ultimately left him alone - even if his actions still affected him (like with the beginning of the episode). Also killing our Rick would mean Prime Morty and our Beths and Summer likely would go after him with revenge.
Evil Morty neutralized C-137's motivation, while holding an interdimensional trump card over his head forever more. C-137 is now a... non-threat. Evil Morty ftw
The turd that's worst at being a turd is something delicious like pizza. Evil Morty is saying since he hates all Rick, then the "worst Rick" might be someone he actually likes.
the best joke in the entire show everyone missed is when the rick receptionist says you know how we feel about eyepatches because rick is scarred of pirates omg actually fucking genius
Roiland's Executive Producer credit was never removed, nor was his vanity card at the end and the "created by" credit was merely moved to closing credits, the only thing completely removed is his credit as a voice actor because none of his voice lines he recorded went used.
I mean he did create the concept of the show, but I don't understand the concept of not removing his executive producer credit. Like, he's not affiliated with the show at all anymore outside of creating the characters.
And that’ll be the same until the show ends… I don’t understand your point, pro or anti roiland, he did co-create the show, he has to be legally credited.
@@Siksama He wondering why the Executive Producer credit is staying, not the "Created By" credit. Solar Opposites did in fact remove his Executive Producer credit and the Vanity Card. I mean both SO Season 4 and R&M Season 7 were in production before he was fired, so really the question is how SO was allowed to remove it, maybe there was a stronger morality clause or he revoked it before the controversy for unrelated reasons. For some people it's in their contracts to still be credited as Executive Producer even after they left the show and died, so he could still be credited even after Season 7-9.
He just used her as an example. Beth would also be capable enough as we see space Beth is pretty capable. But I think Beth and summer are the only real options as the show has stated multiple times they both yearn for Rick's attention and approval. Morty loves his grandpa and enjoys having him there but he's dealt with his bs for a lot longer then them so would have zero motivation for revenge as he's been shown to generally just wannabe a normal kid and be left alone more then anything. He'll at least half the sci-fi adventures they go on he's actively stating he doesn't want to go and Rick is dragging him along
I recently read someone's hypothesis somewhere that Rick C-137 is the "Rickiest Rick" not because he's the one that cares the least about everything, but because he cares the _most._ He didn't want to go portal-traveling the multiverse, he just wanted to stay at home with his wife and daughter, and when they were killed he didn't go "Well, guess I'll go do that after all, then", he went on a massive revenge spree. Notice how Rick will get extremely creative revenge on people for petty reasons (like the Vindicators, and the guy who used his personal bathroom), but if you mess with Morty you'll get that cold, quiet fury before he simply ends your life (like the Jelly Bean King).
at the 42 min mark when nux was explaining how evil morty isnt the smartest but because of all the pillaging and mind downloads he's at ricks level a thought popped into my brain that fits it perfectly "you dont have to be the smartest person in the room to be the most powerful person in the room" i think that fits evil morty perfect
You could tell the Morty's swapped as soon as Morty screamed while falling on the Drone. Evil Morty hasn't made that scream at least during this episode.
The swap is so much more complex than what I thought, morty asks did they swap shirts? And you can see the gunshot hole in morty’s shirt that evil morty got shot by
Also, the "Ho jeez!" of evil Morty was just a bit off. It felt kinda sarcastic, like he is trying to pretend to be our Morty, but knew he didn't have to make much effort anyway, cause Rick prime was going to underestimate a Morty.
@@Panda-kx2oo what are you talking about? Nothing in my comment says it is a surprise that he is smart. It is a rebuttal to Nux saying that Evil Morty was downloading Ricks minds into his brain.
True, but we also know it takes a baseline mental capability to use Rick's knowledge. Jerry wasn't be able to use Rick tech even with all the knowledge in his head.
He definitely downloaded the brains of all the Ricks he killed and captured. That was why he created the dome of tortured Mortys. Like Rick said he could have done the same thing with two morty's and a battery if he just wanted to hide. He needed so many Mortys because he was concentrating Rick's brainwaves within himself when he was downloading their brains and creating a stronger signal to hide. When he went to the citadel it was masked by the thousands of other Ricks there. Nux is completely right. Evil Morty didn't create anything, but he did have the creativity and intelligence to improve upon what Rick made.
Evil Morty's hardware isn't as high spec as rick, aka IQ. But evil morty kept improving his specs and operating system by downloading thousands of rick brain data. Now he's ascended
Maybe Justin was still in this episode? That explains the credits at the start. It happends often that episodes gets made long before release, just waiting for the right time.
@@kingmickey666he isn't in this episode, his credit was likely left, because this season was redubbed (it was made before him getting fired), so he probably still had input into what his characters said, especially if we get another improvisation episode. That's why he still would be counted as Executive Producer. That line may be removed in season 8, similarly to their other shows. Could also be the case where they didn't bother removing it post-production, but I feel like this is such easy thing to change, it had to be intentional.
This show has an ongoing pattern. One Evil Morty episode every odd season and they're often the best episodes in the series. Every time it gets even better as well.
@2:03 I love how Nux is praising this scene for finally developing Morty for real only to be caught off guard by how much of a 180 the next scene does on him lol. Nux is right tho
I love his reactions because he just spouts, whether he's right or wrong, and it's always fun.😂when you analyze the episode is always so insightful and informative
41:13 You probably heard this already from someone else, but evil Morty did shut down Rick Primes Operation Phoenix. That’s what Rick Prime meant when he said “Frying my backups”
I love the end credit scene because it’s so wholesome but heartbreaking because it shows what Rick could have had if he hadn’t let vengeance and revenge consume him to the point of feeling empty and hollow. He could have really grieved and moved on to find a new happiness.
nah, rick could never be happy, that’s the point. the only thing that sets him apart from prime rick is his attachment to his family which is the family of prime rick himself. He is the only rick to have that emotion, which is what gives him the closure to accept his wife’s death and why evil morty kinda likes him. the rick we follow used the og morty and the og family to seek revenge, but along the way grew to genuinely love them, and now that his mission for revenge is done, he doesn’t know how to live for anything other than engaging w the family he subconsciously relies on.
I noticed a thematic parallel here: Rick, after killing Prime and returning home, has a blank stare. His mind tries to process how, there isn’t much purpose anymore for him, after killing Prime. Just how Morty felt when his original dimension was lost, and hopped over to a new one with Rick. He tries to fathom that another himdied, but eventually is snapped out of it when he realizes: knowing the vastness of infinity doesn’t matter, it’s heavy to process. But still, life goes on. Rick goes through this same heavy process until Morty snaps Rick out of it at the dinner table. Just like Morty before, Rick realized, it’s the connections you have, family, the bonds you create, that matter.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 No it isn't, because the point of it was to make us feel empty, like rick does, because its not like killing him is going to bring your wife back or cure all the pain that he caused
Good read on Rick Prime's motive. He can't accept that there might be other ways for him to be happy, so he made that way impossible for any version of himself. For all of Rick's pontificating on how all choice is meaningless in the face of infinity, here we see a version of Rick so petty and controlling that he takes a blunt instrument and beats infinity into shape. He carves out a chunk where he's the only person that matters, and then he turns on himself, cutting out any part of himself he can't control.
Fun fact. The final song is the same one we heard in Rickpotion 9 when Morty’s mind was broken and it became empty. Now Rick hears the same music because he too is now empty, for his motivation to continue and excuse to act like a jackass is gone now. Now he has to continue without a purpose just like Morty after Rickpotion 9.
Yep. I noticed that parallel too. But, I think, we’ve slowly been seeing our Morty find his purpose: to keep his current family together, including this Rick he’s grown attached to. This Morty knows how messed up his family is. And he’s become more caring towards his chosen family, and his Rick. In spite of them being a family in an infinite sea of other families, Morty seems to just want to keep this one around and alive. Because he lost his original one. Remember the concern he had for this other Summer after we hopped universes? He wanted them to stay together. Because he didn’t want to lose another family. This particular Smith family. Because he found something to care about still: his family.
what i like about the scene after the credits is how it shows how diffrent rick could have gone. I mean its very very obvious the parallel there drawing here. Even using the same music as in ricks memore flashback. Showing what could be ricks life if he didnt opsses over rick prime and just chose to allow himself to love again.
At least someone got the point. The amount of Rick & Morty fans that didn't get and were saying how "Rick killing Rick Prime was so satisfying" is ridiculous.
Honestly, I think this episode was kinda shit. It was really unsatisfying and out of nowhere to me. I get that's the point, but that just reads to me as "Well, we made our episode poorly on purpose to fit a theme that you could find in a fortune cookie." There's better ways to get a theme like that across that don't involve making the episode worse, just like how an annoying character doesn't have to (and arguably shouldn't) annoy the audience to get the point across that they're annoying.
@jaystargamelover8785 What do you mean "What?" It was a major plot point since season 3 that suddenly came up in a random episode of season 7 where Evil Morty just randomly included himself which also introduced some sort of omniversal killing machine, once again, out of nowhere. Most of the episode was just "things happening," while Evil Morty and Rick took pot shots at each other. That's not to say it was all bad, but showing up at a random time, including Evil Morty despite him having no reason to be after Rick Prime (which is why the show decided to have Rick and Morty doing stuff on that spaceship that also came out off nowhere), and randomly introducing a weapon that can kill across the multiverse as if it had always been a possibility, all of this just drags down the episode. It could have been achieved better by giving these plot points some build-up in Season 7, as Rick had made basically no progress on actually hunting down RP since last season. It would have made more sense to have Evil Morty show up because of that time Rick accidentally reset portal travelers or just give EM an actual reason to care about RP if they were gonna include him. Instead, he's just here for reasons that were invented just now with no setup. Also, EM's backstory is kinda lame for a guy who was so sick of Rick that he was willing to murder and torture hundreds to thousands of other versions of himself. Turns out he was just a kid who didn't like getting stuck up some alien's butt.
We don't talk about the first one, but man, this season is honestly the most excited I've felt about rick and morty since season 3 maybe, it really makes me hope the writers are learning their missteps from season 5, and season 6 got a little better, but season 7 feels like we're back into full fun sci-fi rick and morty, with some lore mixed in and I love it.@@Pablo.673
I was really happy to finally see the Prime Rick arc reach a climax. Definitely my fave ep this season so far. I loved the layers of story, motive, and I am now even more interested in where they might take Evil Morty after this.
I only watched the episode once but definitely feel like I missed something in this epic episode of so much shit coming together and finally going down which I was asking for Rick Prime and got it ten fold
I love how the post credit scene here is basically what Rick could've been if he had healthier reactions to trauma, an actual support system to keep him from turning to vengeance
The scene where rick "killed" prime (dont believe it) was so visceral and raw. I dont even think that the old va could have given it the type of emotion it needed
The after credit scene is a beautiful display of a bittersweet ending. They both lost their love, but they faced their lose, the cams to terms, and eventually they found peace. The pictures serving as a reminder of what they lost, and what they will always love.
So based on that after credits scene, it looks like the writers are trying to tell us that the only way Rick will be able to be happy again is for him to just move the hell on, and start being a full-time grandpa/dad/father-in-law.
Your commentary reminded me of the Futurama episode where the Planet Express ship was fighting off pirates, and right before dying the robot pirate captain was all "Too late, I realize my children were my true treasure." Our Rick has come to realize the same thing, his greatest power are the attachments he has to his family, which is why he beat all the other Ricks in this episode.
Evil Morty set up shop in what I like to call, a nexus point. An in-between space where all universes intersect. That's why outside of his personal citadel is portal chaos.
why did what fuck me up the most is the ending credits they just. let go they were diferent or... rick was the anomaly instead all this time it really highlights it, it did it perfectly, really
One of the best episodes of the entire show. Hit all of the beats that made the show incredible to begin with. Amazing character arcs, high concept science fiction, great comedy and amazing action sequences. Really surprised this wasnt the season Finale. Idk how they're going to top this one.
Infinite multiverses mean Infinite possibilities, which means that every possibilities is possible even one with a non chaotic multiverse. If you don't understand that you don't get the multiverse.
What is also cool about the post credits it's that it shows what Rick's life could have been if someone stop him if he found someone that understands him if he gave up the revenge and to build a new life on the broken one
Nux you did get one thing wrong. You said our Rick didn't have a daughter. He did actually...both Dianne and Beth were killed right in front of him as they entered the garage.
Justin Roiland will continue to be credited for some time since episodes are worked on far in advance. Thus, he likely worked on this whole season long before the controversy came out.
My theory is rick prime was the first to make portal tech and travel our rick was the first to invent it and decide to stay. Which is why our rick set the standard of ricks. Now that he's achieved his goal and got his revenge the thrill has worn off. Now he can be a better person which is gonna be a weird thing to see. i expect a rick and bird person episode soon.
So interesting thought. Beth might not be Rick's daughter considering both Beth and Diane were killed by the across dimension bomb. That means both space and normal beth are both clones
6:58 this is literally the premise of loki tho? Kang found the multiverse. But he wasn't the ONLY one, or even the only KANG that found the multiverse, and thus, a multiversal war broke out, and unknown numbers of people died. That's why he created the TVA and erased all the other universes to keep only ONE universe.
37:35 I think it's possible he knew, he's just such a smooth talker, remember how he did that to our initial season 1 Jerry in season 6 in the post credits scene, talk his way out, because he's so superior. 40:55 (in a sing song voice) COOL GUYS DON'T LOOK AT EXPLOOOSIOOOOOONS!!!
I hope we get evil jerry... I only heard rumors about it... supposedly its doofus Jerry... but then other people say that evil Morty is doofus Morty, but that's debunked now...
Noticed how the "Jetson" family kept visually changing as if it's a meta commentary about long running shows. the family are visually adjusting to "modern audience" much like how the Scooby Doo cartoon went through so many changes until Velma came out lol.
The multiverse can't be truly infinite, otherwise there would be a successful Owlman situation at some point. Someone in infinity would find a way to (or accidentally) cause the destruction of the entire multiverse.
well, it actually depends on what type of multiverse we are dealing with and the whole "every possibility plays out somewhere because it is infinity" is not how that actually works. That is not even the original statement. the original is "Anything with a non-zero probability will play out somewhere." There are things with a zero probability! example: A universe where the multiverse is not real (It is a zero-probability event) (It makes no logical sense, also why would something that is applicable to a universe be applicable to the multiverse? because you know, universe is a smaller part of the multiverse, not the other way around? it's like saying this building doesn't have the 2nd floor because we didn't label it second floor but rather the third, that doesn't make it the third floor, does it?) Similarly a successful Owlman situation is a zero-probability event! (1: The DC multiverse doesn't operate like that) (2: Even if we ignore the first point and say that every time the heroes succeed, there exists another universe where they lose, well, what Owlman was doing was beyond the scope of any universe, there are not two different multiverses, one where heroes win and one where Owlman wins, there is just one multiverse!) In conclusion: If someone tries to destroy the multiverse, there are not 2 possibilities of one where he succeeds and one where he doesn't! there is just one possibility! because this thing is happening on a multiversal level! so the rule of "if possibility A happens there has to be a universe where possibility B happens" is not applicable for obvious reasons! Hence the argument that if someone tries to destroy the multiverse, there has to be a place where the plan succeeds so the multiverse cannot be truly infinite is invalid The multiverse is infinite (truly infinite) but there are rules, and some things are impossible Thank you for reading everyone💗
yeah this episode goes hard it really good to push the narrative forward but for the love of God the amount of glazing Nux is radiating is off the charts
Friendly reminder that if our Morty hadn't been there, not even the combined efforts of our Rick and Evil Morty would have been able to beat Rick Prime
There's a lot of great moments in this episode that everyone has pointed out. A small moment i really liked was Evil Morty coming back to let Main Morty follow along. I don't know what it is. It isnt heartwarming or anything. I just found their interaction charming.
I like that end credits scene. It's a recreation of Ricks backstory that we see through the flashback, but this time rather than stay glued to the idea of revenge, she finds someone who went through a similar situation. This tells us that either Rick Prime has dome this with multiple people while going throughout the multiverse, or that someone else did something very similar. Either way it turns out to be, there is always someone like Rick that just ruins things for people and there is always someone else left behind to either pick up themselves from the ashes... Or stay down and allow themselves to remain darkened.
8:30 the central finite curve is just a barrier construted as a boundary between categories of infinity, all those other universes exist, this dump universe of failed portal travel was still happening. Infinite possibilities means every failure can & does exist
In the eyes of Rick Prime (and pretty much every other Rick) Evil Morty is just a Morty. Being considered irrelevant gave E.M. a huge layer of protection, practically assuring his victory.
45:30, and it's the same music in the finale of season 5, when Morty sees Rick's memories and tracking down Prime... interesting, but yeah, typical revenge plot, never satisfying, doesn't bring the ones or things you lost back, if anything... things could get worse. Not that this was bad because of that, as cliche as revenge plots are, just curious as to where it will go from here, like will the next episode start with Rick trying to commit suicide? Will he be back at Dr Wong's?
16:36 I'm not sure if this is clarified or not, but to clarify something about that scene with the Rick's talking. Rick says portal travel and then gives him interdimensional travel so he was differentiating the two at the time. He was saying that portal travel is common but interdimensional would make him more powerful than regular portal travel. This kind of shown because our Rick he tried to just send an apple through a portal directly beside itself while interdimensional would have been something a little different it could be wrong though
Also that Clone at 28:24 is Literally a Phoenix Project from Prime so even if Evil Morty nufillied his escapes he also would Just Go back to that Clone
I feel like this episode also really goes to show how powerful rick is. So far weve seen the ricks being the only ones to ensure their the most powerful and creating the central finite curve.
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ur fake pewdiepie voice is annoying. dont do that, be yourself
By the way I thought I'd say this, stop spoiling the surprise to yourself God damn it. You're really good at that ball thing or whatever you said butt give it a f****** rest and stop rewinding it.
What I Love about this episode is that once again we explore the hypocrisy of Rick. He constantly speaks of infinite possibilities and that nothing Matters yet he created a rule in existence that :”Rick is the smartest and the only one with portal tech”. He basically created a line in infinity. Now we find out that he also created a weapon that creates rules. This time the rule says: “This person has died”. For a man obsessed with infinity it’s funny how he creates rules that eliminate infinity.
I think it's because deep inside, the concept of infinity might actually scare him. As wild as things in his life get, he only truly thrived and was happy when there was structure in his life with his wife and daughter. With that stripped, he's faced with the reality that things don't matter, everything is random, and the possibilities of things better, worse, and stagnant all at the same time stretches out to forever, and it terrifies him. Going after Rick Prime was a goal that gave him some kind of structure, at least a goal post, and that lead him to drawing a line in infinity, and adding rules to existence- forms of structures he specifically can control, adding order to a chaotic world he's only been pretending to be alright with as a means to cope.
It's just my personal heacannon though.
Yeah no human can cope with the true implications of the multiverse so he created his own
Didn't he make the curb to trap Rick Prime?
C-137 and Rick Prime are the only two in the curve to invent portal travel on their own. C-137 and the Council created the Finite Curve, the Council to be the smartest man, but C-137 probably did it to limit Rick Prime to a technically finite slice of infinity.
Heads up prime rick not dead fake it really well
I can only guess as to why Evil Morty revived Rick.
1. Rick Prime killed all Dianes (including his grandma, so he never had the chance to meet her) so the Ricks deserved their revenge.
2. Rick Prime ensured all Ricks would be nihilistic and petty, so he would want some revenge too, he just didn't feel the passion for it.
3. Our Rick is one of the few who would have preferred family life over portal travel, that's the closest to a pass for his Rickness.
4. Our Rick can revive with his backups, and if Evil Morty would have kill prime Rick, then our Rick would think that Evil Morty remove his goal/life and go after him, which Evil Morty doesn't want.
or evil morty just don't want evil rick to bother him. Since our rick bothered evil morty, I guess evil morty just want to annihilate the root problem. Cuz so far, evil morty just doesn't wanna be bothered.
Didnt evil morty say he respected rick when he left at the end? Thats probally because of that
Removing Prime was necessary, because he made the ultimate weapon and was directly targeting everyone - which would ultimately even kill Evil Morty by proxy.
Evil Morty however probably has some level of liking when it comes to Prime Morty - which is probably why he let him keep his Rick. And it's not like they didn't collabed on this win, our Rick was one of the few Ricks that ultimately left him alone - even if his actions still affected him (like with the beginning of the episode).
Also killing our Rick would mean Prime Morty and our Beths and Summer likely would go after him with revenge.
Evil Morty neutralized C-137's motivation, while holding an interdimensional trump card over his head forever more. C-137 is now a... non-threat.
Evil Morty ftw
The turd that's worst at being a turd is something delicious like pizza. Evil Morty is saying since he hates all Rick, then the "worst Rick" might be someone he actually likes.
Doofus Rick & Evil Morty for life
@hectorbarrera8046 that's an interesting team, I image Jerry also jumping aboard 😅
I think it's more "the worst turd isn't a turd." So the worst rick is someone that isn't a rick.
the best joke in the entire show everyone missed is when the rick receptionist says you know how we feel about eyepatches because rick is scarred of pirates omg actually fucking genius
He says "you know how we feel about pirates." But yeah great bit. The writers clearly have the lore down to a tee.
Pirates of the Pancreas was one of the most underrated attractions in anatomy park, after all! XD
no its the schematics being named booger aids V2
@@delinkwent7375 "everything is booger aids!" - summer
i wouldnt say this joke was so genius compared to everything else in this episode and... well i didnt miss it :P
Roiland's Executive Producer credit was never removed, nor was his vanity card at the end and the "created by" credit was merely moved to closing credits, the only thing completely removed is his credit as a voice actor because none of his voice lines he recorded went used.
I mean he did create the concept of the show, but I don't understand the concept of not removing his executive producer credit. Like, he's not affiliated with the show at all anymore outside of creating the characters.
And that’ll be the same until the show ends…
I don’t understand your point, pro or anti roiland, he did co-create the show, he has to be legally credited.
I'm curious how many episodes he had recorded before he was fired, or if the whole season had been done with his voice?
@@Siksama He wondering why the Executive Producer credit is staying, not the "Created By" credit. Solar Opposites did in fact remove his Executive Producer credit and the Vanity Card. I mean both SO Season 4 and R&M Season 7 were in production before he was fired, so really the question is how SO was allowed to remove it, maybe there was a stronger morality clause or he revoked it before the controversy for unrelated reasons. For some people it's in their contracts to still be credited as Executive Producer even after they left the show and died, so he could still be credited even after Season 7-9.
@@beam_me_up_scotty69 The entire season.
I think its funny that evil morty is more afraid of versions of summer coming after him than other mortys
He just used her as an example. Beth would also be capable enough as we see space Beth is pretty capable. But I think Beth and summer are the only real options as the show has stated multiple times they both yearn for Rick's attention and approval. Morty loves his grandpa and enjoys having him there but he's dealt with his bs for a lot longer then them so would have zero motivation for revenge as he's been shown to generally just wannabe a normal kid and be left alone more then anything. He'll at least half the sci-fi adventures they go on he's actively stating he doesn't want to go and Rick is dragging him along
@@CodeeXD but at the same time, morty is the only one that can go after evil morty, unless there's a way to be protected from the omega device
I recently read someone's hypothesis somewhere that Rick C-137 is the "Rickiest Rick" not because he's the one that cares the least about everything, but because he cares the _most._ He didn't want to go portal-traveling the multiverse, he just wanted to stay at home with his wife and daughter, and when they were killed he didn't go "Well, guess I'll go do that after all, then", he went on a massive revenge spree. Notice how Rick will get extremely creative revenge on people for petty reasons (like the Vindicators, and the guy who used his personal bathroom), but if you mess with Morty you'll get that cold, quiet fury before he simply ends your life (like the Jelly Bean King).
at the 42 min mark when nux was explaining how evil morty isnt the smartest but because of all the pillaging and mind downloads he's at ricks level a thought popped into my brain that fits it perfectly "you dont have to be the smartest person in the room to be the most powerful person in the room" i think that fits evil morty perfect
“I just walked into your garage before you walked into mine!”
That line is so fucking nuts
You could tell the Morty's swapped as soon as Morty screamed while falling on the Drone. Evil Morty hasn't made that scream at least during this episode.
The swap is so much more complex than what I thought, morty asks did they swap shirts? And you can see the gunshot hole in morty’s shirt that evil morty got shot by
Also, the "Ho jeez!" of evil Morty was just a bit off. It felt kinda sarcastic, like he is trying to pretend to be our Morty, but knew he didn't have to make much effort anyway, cause Rick prime was going to underestimate a Morty.
Evil Morty didn’t download the Ricks into himself. He scanned them and took the data he needed to break free. He is just that smart on his own.
He’s ricks grandson bro u make it sound like a surprise
@@Panda-kx2oo what are you talking about? Nothing in my comment says it is a surprise that he is smart. It is a rebuttal to Nux saying that Evil Morty was downloading Ricks minds into his brain.
True, but we also know it takes a baseline mental capability to use Rick's knowledge. Jerry wasn't be able to use Rick tech even with all the knowledge in his head.
He definitely downloaded the brains of all the Ricks he killed and captured. That was why he created the dome of tortured Mortys. Like Rick said he could have done the same thing with two morty's and a battery if he just wanted to hide. He needed so many Mortys because he was concentrating Rick's brainwaves within himself when he was downloading their brains and creating a stronger signal to hide. When he went to the citadel it was masked by the thousands of other Ricks there. Nux is completely right. Evil Morty didn't create anything, but he did have the creativity and intelligence to improve upon what Rick made.
Evil Morty's hardware isn't as high spec as rick, aka IQ. But evil morty kept improving his specs and operating system by downloading thousands of rick brain data. Now he's ascended
i really loved this episode and the new voice for rick is actually pretty good in this too
maybe were just getting more used to the voice? theres definitely a noticeable difference but dude popped off this ep
U can really compare both voices in the Evil Rick yelling "Do it!! Do it!!" as the mortys kill him
His new voice actually quite perfect.
Maybe Justin was still in this episode? That explains the credits at the start. It happends often that episodes gets made long before release, just waiting for the right time.
@@kingmickey666he isn't in this episode, his credit was likely left, because this season was redubbed (it was made before him getting fired), so he probably still had input into what his characters said, especially if we get another improvisation episode. That's why he still would be counted as Executive Producer.
That line may be removed in season 8, similarly to their other shows. Could also be the case where they didn't bother removing it post-production, but I feel like this is such easy thing to change, it had to be intentional.
This show has an ongoing pattern. One Evil Morty episode every odd season and they're often the best episodes in the series. Every time it gets even better as well.
Nux watched it. I thought he was lucky sometimes but honestly he probably pre-watched this shit and is pretending.
Welp Evil Morty, we'll see you in season 9!
@@Im3than I'm fucking praying the pattern continues
@@GreatestLeaf I'm praying it fucking doesn't. I want an Evil Morty episode next season
@@dsimi415 I would absolutely love Evil Morty Next season, too, so... Either way as long as he comes back 👀 I trust the writers
@2:03 I love how Nux is praising this scene for finally developing Morty for real only to be caught off guard by how much of a 180 the next scene does on him lol. Nux is right tho
I love his reactions because he just spouts, whether he's right or wrong, and it's always fun.😂when you analyze the episode is always so insightful and informative
41:13 You probably heard this already from someone else, but evil Morty did shut down Rick Primes Operation Phoenix. That’s what Rick Prime meant when he said “Frying my backups”
I love the end credit scene because it’s so wholesome but heartbreaking because it shows what Rick could have had if he hadn’t let vengeance and revenge consume him to the point of feeling empty and hollow. He could have really grieved and moved on to find a new happiness.
Yeah it's an amazing parallel. RIP Slowmobius though.
He tried with Birdperson, but that did not work out
nah, rick could never be happy, that’s the point. the only thing that sets him apart from prime rick is his attachment to his family which is the family of prime rick himself. He is the only rick to have that emotion, which is what gives him the closure to accept his wife’s death and why evil morty kinda likes him. the rick we follow used the og morty and the og family to seek revenge, but along the way grew to genuinely love them, and now that his mission for revenge is done, he doesn’t know how to live for anything other than engaging w the family he subconsciously relies on.
I noticed a thematic parallel here: Rick, after killing Prime and returning home, has a blank stare. His mind tries to process how, there isn’t much purpose anymore for him, after killing Prime. Just how Morty felt when his original dimension was lost, and hopped over to a new one with Rick. He tries to fathom that another himdied, but eventually is snapped out of it when he realizes: knowing the vastness of infinity doesn’t matter, it’s heavy to process. But still, life goes on. Rick goes through this same heavy process until Morty snaps Rick out of it at the dinner table. Just like Morty before, Rick realized, it’s the connections you have, family, the bonds you create, that matter.
Just waiting for the farm arc as usual, it always happens everytime the mc gets their revenge
I’m glad we didn’t have to wait a whole season for Rick to finally get his revenge.
But at what cost…
It felt rushed, it had cool ideas but this is something what we'd have lead up to a season final.
I think that’s what makes it so compelling because now like Rick we are also left with a slightly empty feeling
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 No it isn't, because the point of it was to make us feel empty, like rick does, because its not like killing him is going to bring your wife back or cure all the pain that he caused
Good read on Rick Prime's motive. He can't accept that there might be other ways for him to be happy, so he made that way impossible for any version of himself.
For all of Rick's pontificating on how all choice is meaningless in the face of infinity, here we see a version of Rick so petty and controlling that he takes a blunt instrument and beats infinity into shape. He carves out a chunk where he's the only person that matters, and then he turns on himself, cutting out any part of himself he can't control.
You're so entertainingly nerdy that i can't help but love your content Nux.
Among all the greatness, this episode also solidified that the new voice actors are 100% capable of delivering the needed impact when necessary.
Fun fact. The final song is the same one we heard in Rickpotion 9 when Morty’s mind was broken and it became empty. Now Rick hears the same music because he too is now empty, for his motivation to continue and excuse to act like a jackass is gone now. Now he has to continue without a purpose just like Morty after Rickpotion 9.
Yep. I noticed that parallel too. But, I think, we’ve slowly been seeing our Morty find his purpose: to keep his current family together, including this Rick he’s grown attached to. This Morty knows how messed up his family is. And he’s become more caring towards his chosen family, and his Rick. In spite of them being a family in an infinite sea of other families, Morty seems to just want to keep this one around and alive. Because he lost his original one. Remember the concern he had for this other Summer after we hopped universes? He wanted them to stay together. Because he didn’t want to lose another family. This particular Smith family. Because he found something to care about still: his family.
what i like about the scene after the credits is how it shows how diffrent rick could have gone. I mean its very very obvious the parallel there drawing here. Even using the same music as in ricks memore flashback. Showing what could be ricks life if he didnt opsses over rick prime and just chose to allow himself to love again.
At least someone got the point. The amount of Rick & Morty fans that didn't get and were saying how "Rick killing Rick Prime was so satisfying" is ridiculous.
It is in the moment. Then you realize it's over and nothing has changed..
Honestly, I think this episode was kinda shit. It was really unsatisfying and out of nowhere to me. I get that's the point, but that just reads to me as "Well, we made our episode poorly on purpose to fit a theme that you could find in a fortune cookie."
There's better ways to get a theme like that across that don't involve making the episode worse, just like how an annoying character doesn't have to (and arguably shouldn't) annoy the audience to get the point across that they're annoying.
@@AlphaOmega1237What?
@jaystargamelover8785 What do you mean "What?" It was a major plot point since season 3 that suddenly came up in a random episode of season 7 where Evil Morty just randomly included himself which also introduced some sort of omniversal killing machine, once again, out of nowhere. Most of the episode was just "things happening," while Evil Morty and Rick took pot shots at each other.
That's not to say it was all bad, but showing up at a random time, including Evil Morty despite him having no reason to be after Rick Prime (which is why the show decided to have Rick and Morty doing stuff on that spaceship that also came out off nowhere), and randomly introducing a weapon that can kill across the multiverse as if it had always been a possibility, all of this just drags down the episode. It could have been achieved better by giving these plot points some build-up in Season 7, as Rick had made basically no progress on actually hunting down RP since last season. It would have made more sense to have Evil Morty show up because of that time Rick accidentally reset portal travelers or just give EM an actual reason to care about RP if they were gonna include him. Instead, he's just here for reasons that were invented just now with no setup.
Also, EM's backstory is kinda lame for a guy who was so sick of Rick that he was willing to murder and torture hundreds to thousands of other versions of himself. Turns out he was just a kid who didn't like getting stuck up some alien's butt.
@@AlphaOmega1237 What?
"He's me with free time"
Because our Rick has family obligations
That ending was just to show how rick had a choice to start a new life with another person he could love like thay alien girl that control's people
I have been really excited to see your reaction to this, honestly, I can't believe how consistently good this season has been so far
I'd say the 1st ep kinda sucked. Eps 2 and 3 were great, and eps 4 and 5 were some of the whole show's highlights.
We don't talk about the first one, but man, this season is honestly the most excited I've felt about rick and morty since season 3 maybe, it really makes me hope the writers are learning their missteps from season 5, and season 6 got a little better, but season 7 feels like we're back into full fun sci-fi rick and morty, with some lore mixed in and I love it.@@Pablo.673
I dipped out S4, only saw a handful of episodes between S4-6. S7 has been a welcome change, enough that I've watched the whole season so far.
I was really happy to finally see the Prime Rick arc reach a climax. Definitely my fave ep this season so far. I loved the layers of story, motive, and I am now even more interested in where they might take Evil Morty after this.
The worst turd is a pizza line means a negative by a negative is a positive.
The worst of something bad, would be bad at being what makes it bad.
I only watched the episode once but definitely feel like I missed something in this epic episode of so much shit coming together and finally going down which I was asking for Rick Prime and got it ten fold
I love how the post credit scene here is basically what Rick could've been if he had healthier reactions to trauma, an actual support system to keep him from turning to vengeance
I've watched 7 ads in total, and have to watch you speak a long talk every minutes, I love it🥰
The scene where rick "killed" prime (dont believe it) was so visceral and raw. I dont even think that the old va could have given it the type of emotion it needed
They've milked rick prime enough. He's definitely dead
I just love how nux gives insight
The after credit scene is a beautiful display of a bittersweet ending. They both lost their love, but they faced their lose, the cams to terms, and eventually they found peace. The pictures serving as a reminder of what they lost, and what they will always love.
So based on that after credits scene, it looks like the writers are trying to tell us that the only way Rick will be able to be happy again is for him to just move the hell on, and start being a full-time grandpa/dad/father-in-law.
Your commentary reminded me of the Futurama episode where the Planet Express ship was fighting off pirates, and right before dying the robot pirate captain was all "Too late, I realize my children were my true treasure." Our Rick has come to realize the same thing, his greatest power are the attachments he has to his family, which is why he beat all the other Ricks in this episode.
The reason why evil morty is more of a threat is because he is action oriented and has no pride
Evil Morty set up shop in what I like to call, a nexus point. An in-between space where all universes intersect. That's why outside of his personal citadel is portal chaos.
I think that evil Morty got a smart as he is because he paid attention to what Rick was doing. Not just from scanning his brain.
This was easily among the best episodes in the series
id say THE best, bc personaly the most large pallette of emotion and progreshion and revelation came out of this one specificly
The outcome makes absolute sense; Who better to defeat Rick Prime, other than the guy whose kill count mostly consists of Ricks?
I love the parallel in the post credit scene. She parallels a version of Rick that got over the death of his wife.
why did what fuck me up the most is the ending credits
they just. let go
they were diferent
or... rick was the anomaly instead all this time
it really highlights it, it did it perfectly, really
One of the best episodes of the entire show. Hit all of the beats that made the show incredible to begin with. Amazing character arcs, high concept science fiction, great comedy and amazing action sequences. Really surprised this wasnt the season Finale. Idk how they're going to top this one.
Infinite multiverses mean Infinite possibilities, which means that every possibilities is possible even one with a non chaotic multiverse. If you don't understand that you don't get the multiverse.
What is also cool about the post credits it's that it shows what Rick's life could have been if someone stop him if he found someone that understands him if he gave up the revenge and to build a new life on the broken one
That cold open and post title card had crazy Stranger Things vibes, and I was diggin' it.
I can't believe Slow Mobius doesn't exist anymore.
He always showed off his powers.
Much better analysis of Rick Prime than I could figure out on my own.
So fucking good, thanks for the dope upload Nux. Even though I'd watched it prior, idk why but I needed this. Good lookin' out homie
Nux trying not to mention Marvel challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Prime Rick technically lose Diane to get portal travel, but still had Beth so that he still had a family.
You add so much to these episodes for me nux. You're so good at analyzing and seeing the deeper meaning.
I like how evil morty isnt really all that evil. He just wants his own happiness
Nux you did get one thing wrong. You said our Rick didn't have a daughter. He did actually...both Dianne and Beth were killed right in front of him as they entered the garage.
It is amazing why evil Morty wears a ear patch because Rick is scared of pirates
Justin Roiland will continue to be credited for some time since episodes are worked on far in advance. Thus, he likely worked on this whole season long before the controversy came out.
My theory is rick prime was the first to make portal tech and travel our rick was the first to invent it and decide to stay. Which is why our rick set the standard of ricks. Now that he's achieved his goal and got his revenge the thrill has worn off. Now he can be a better person which is gonna be a weird thing to see. i expect a rick and bird person episode soon.
So interesting thought. Beth might not be Rick's daughter considering both Beth and Diane were killed by the across dimension bomb. That means both space and normal beth are both clones
Rick Prime,s Beth is from the Cronenberg universe. The only direct Family Rick Prime had left is Main Story Morty
The bomb didn't erase them from infinity
Bro ran out of attention span
8:49 If you notice at 8:30 the thing he goes in is attached to the central finite curve, he is outside of it, but stable... as long as the curve is.
I was worried about the new voice actors but they are doing a good job.
Ikr I literally can't tell the difference
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6:58 this is literally the premise of loki tho? Kang found the multiverse. But he wasn't the ONLY one, or even the only KANG that found the multiverse, and thus, a multiversal war broke out, and unknown numbers of people died. That's why he created the TVA and erased all the other universes to keep only ONE universe.
37:35 I think it's possible he knew, he's just such a smooth talker, remember how he did that to our initial season 1 Jerry in season 6 in the post credits scene, talk his way out, because he's so superior.
40:55 (in a sing song voice) COOL GUYS DON'T LOOK AT EXPLOOOSIOOOOOONS!!!
I hope we get evil jerry... I only heard rumors about it... supposedly its doofus Jerry... but then other people say that evil Morty is doofus Morty, but that's debunked now...
And Evil Morty coming from the Doofus dimension is purely not possible due to Doofus Jerry never knowing Beth
"revenge is never good, it kills the soul and poisons it"
- El nft número uno de la televisión humorística
I love that they made slomobius rick's uncle for absolutely no reason other than a risk free way to show off the weapon.
I absolutely love how chaotic the outside of the curve is.
Despite all of Rick Primes genius he could NEVER comprehend a Morty capable of outsmarting him, so he couldn’t anticipate it
9:37 Roiland has been in the credits for other season 7 episodes as well. They can’t legally take him out.
This is probably my new favorite episode.
Noticed how the "Jetson" family kept visually changing as if it's a meta commentary about long running shows. the family are visually adjusting to "modern audience" much like how the Scooby Doo cartoon went through so many changes until Velma came out lol.
The multiverse can't be truly infinite, otherwise there would be a successful Owlman situation at some point.
Someone in infinity would find a way to (or accidentally) cause the destruction of the entire multiverse.
well, it actually depends on what type of multiverse we are dealing with
and the whole "every possibility plays out somewhere because it is infinity" is not how that actually works.
That is not even the original statement.
the original is "Anything with a non-zero probability will play out somewhere."
There are things with a zero probability!
example: A universe where the multiverse is not real (It is a zero-probability event)
(It makes no logical sense, also why would something that is applicable to a universe be applicable to the multiverse? because you know, universe is a smaller part of the multiverse, not the other way around? it's like saying this building doesn't have the 2nd floor because we didn't label it second floor but rather the third, that doesn't make it the third floor, does it?)
Similarly a successful Owlman situation is a zero-probability event!
(1: The DC multiverse doesn't operate like that)
(2: Even if we ignore the first point and say that every time the heroes succeed, there exists another universe where they lose, well, what Owlman was doing was beyond the scope of any universe, there are not two different multiverses, one where heroes win and one where Owlman wins, there is just one multiverse!)
In conclusion: If someone tries to destroy the multiverse, there are not 2 possibilities of one where he succeeds and one where he doesn't! there is just one possibility!
because this thing is happening on a multiversal level! so the rule of "if possibility A happens there has to be a universe where possibility B happens" is not applicable
for obvious reasons!
Hence the argument that if someone tries to destroy the multiverse, there has to be a place where the plan succeeds so the multiverse cannot be truly infinite is invalid
The multiverse is infinite (truly infinite) but there are rules, and some things are impossible
Thank you for reading everyone💗
yeah this episode goes hard it really good to push the narrative forward but for the love of God the amount of glazing Nux is radiating is off the charts
This may be the best Rick and Morty episode yet!
Friendly reminder that if our Morty hadn't been there, not even the combined efforts of our Rick and Evil Morty would have been able to beat Rick Prime
Its so satisfying that a version of Morty gets to earnfully smack talk rick and actually be arguably right.
This is becoming one of my favorite parts of the week lol
There's a lot of great moments in this episode that everyone has pointed out.
A small moment i really liked was Evil Morty coming back to let Main Morty follow along. I don't know what it is. It isnt heartwarming or anything. I just found their interaction charming.
I like that end credits scene.
It's a recreation of Ricks backstory that we see through the flashback, but this time rather than stay glued to the idea of revenge, she finds someone who went through a similar situation.
This tells us that either Rick Prime has dome this with multiple people while going throughout the multiverse, or that someone else did something very similar.
Either way it turns out to be, there is always someone like Rick that just ruins things for people and there is always someone else left behind to either pick up themselves from the ashes... Or stay down and allow themselves to remain darkened.
8:30 the central finite curve is just a barrier construted as a boundary between categories of infinity, all those other universes exist, this dump universe of failed portal travel was still happening. Infinite possibilities means every failure can & does exist
Rest in peace rick prime my most favorite character
38:38 "knock yourself out"
This is really how i watch rick and morty now
In the eyes of Rick Prime (and pretty much every other Rick) Evil Morty is just a Morty. Being considered irrelevant gave E.M. a huge layer of protection, practically assuring his victory.
This is the 1st Rick and Morty episode i have ever watched
The funny thing is...that Rick Prime loses because he hesitates to shoot what he thinks is his original Morty.
45:30, and it's the same music in the finale of season 5, when Morty sees Rick's memories and tracking down Prime... interesting, but yeah, typical revenge plot, never satisfying, doesn't bring the ones or things you lost back, if anything... things could get worse. Not that this was bad because of that, as cliche as revenge plots are, just curious as to where it will go from here, like will the next episode start with Rick trying to commit suicide? Will he be back at Dr Wong's?
9:48 They put Justin Roiland in the credits for each episode this season.
Never been early for Nux until now lol
16:36 I'm not sure if this is clarified or not, but to clarify something about that scene with the Rick's talking. Rick says portal travel and then gives him interdimensional travel so he was differentiating the two at the time. He was saying that portal travel is common but interdimensional would make him more powerful than regular portal travel. This kind of shown because our Rick he tried to just send an apple through a portal directly beside itself while interdimensional would have been something a little different it could be wrong though
He doesn't want regular Morty there because he doesn't want to put him in danger.
A 25 minute episode into a 46 minute video, now this is how you react 😎
@25:12 So does that make Rick Ash or Misty, LOL
Also that Clone at 28:24 is Literally a Phoenix Project from Prime so even if Evil Morty nufillied his escapes he also would Just Go back to that Clone
I feel like this episode also really goes to show how powerful rick is. So far weve seen the ricks being the only ones to ensure their the most powerful and creating the central finite curve.
This was the first video I ever watched from you
I got hooked up on reverse vore ngl