This thing has been in development hell for ages. I want to remain optimistic, but some friends and I occasionally look at job openings at cloud chamber and employee reviews and it is in BAD shape. They have crazy turnover and former employees cite a lack of direction in the project. This game is either never coming out or it’s gonna suck.
Honestly you're right If it was announced in 2019 and still has no official title/even one screenshot, it's really bad Some indie games have went through rough development in the same time frame (second bendy title,as example,i believe) but still were published
I just hope Bioshock 4 will be more like Bioshock 1 and 2 in terms of gameplay then Bioshock Infinite. The 2 gun system really does not work for Bioshock and the weapons in Infinite just weren’t as iconic as the weapons in the first 2
Bioshock Infinite’s gunplay is super solid (I personally think it’s the best in the franchise) but there’s no denying that in the first 2 games you could get a lot more creative with all different weapons at your disposal
if they drop a 4 i hope they bring the multiplayer back ! i remember fondly logging into my xbox 360 booting up BioShock 2 and fighting other online players dressed up as splicers. I also think it was one of the first first person multiplayer experiences that introduced superpowers into the gameplay way before overwatch and valorant decided to do so. An episode covering that history would be neat.
@@respectable-username I forgot all about the turrets. Yeah I would constantly be moving around the map hacking them too. For some reason most people would ignore them but when you went up against someone who was trying to hack em it made it interesting
If you had to ask me what to do for another bioshock. I would suggest a new city that plays on common human fears. Rapture had the fear of drowning and Columbia was the fear of falling. I would suggest a city that plays on another common human fear or several. An underground city has the potential for the fear of tight spaces, fear of the dark and the fear of being buried alive all at the same time.
Underground I can see sprt of working. But its not just based on fears. It's having a city that would realistically be impossible but somehow believable. Underground has the chance of being crushed. Similar to water. I think Underground and space are 2 locations everyone thinks of. Which is a problem. Because the location of bioshock should be shocking and unpredictable. The antarctic city in a glacier/volcano makes a lot of sense in terms of parallels to Rapture. The glacier city is surrounded by water. The lower city is in a more volcanoish area. Which Rapture actually had in hepheastus. It ran off of geothermal energy which the new city could as well. An underground city could also run on geothermal too
Well remember Ken Levine is working on a Bioshock type game called JUDAS... but idk how much it references Bioshock itself or if it's even related. Been on the online stores for forever and it says "coming soon" so who knows when that'll release. I'm so pumped for it though!
Refreshing to watch a video like this that just gets straight to the point, lays out the facts, and only partially focuses on speculation. If B4 were to be re-revealed this year, it'd be nice to be wowed by the series again...
You're absolutely right. The silence around this franchise is CRAZY. It truly is a staple of modern gaming that countless games give praise for inspiration. I really hope it gets announced.
Honestly, I kind of want BioShock 4 to explore the aftermath of Rapture's collapse, particularly in regards to surface countries, after the good ending of BioShock 2: What do these various countries do now that they know there's this abandoned underwater city off the coast of Iceland filled to the brim with technology and weapons that seem straight out of Sci-Fi stories, and what are the results of this potential ransacking of Rapture's ruins? Does this lead to good opportunities to advance humanity, or does this lead to tensions in the Cold War greatly increasing, thereby bringing the planet ever closer to a third World War than it ever has? What new experiments would arise from the discovery of ADAM, Plasmids, Big Daddies, Little Sisters, Pneumo Tubes, and other stuff by the rest of the world? How would the two superpowers of the United States and Soviet Union react to such a discovery, and would they use it to their advantage? Hell, with such a concept, it'd be an easy way to bring back the multiplayer from BioShock 2 as that was a surprisingly good multiplayer mode, but in a completely different context now that various governments have seen the military potential of ADAM; Besides, we all know Take Two would LOVE to squeeze in a multiplayer mode, and they already have a decent template in the one from BioShock 2: Just simply take and update the basic mechanics of that mode, add new match types, expand the arsenal, change up the playable characters, change up the factions, and there you go.
Cool but the outside world could've known about rapture a long time ago because there's the art for BioShock 2 and the guy tried to tell people just it wasn't working and he just decided he was gonna go to rapture but cool idea! :>
honestly open world BioShock sound fitting. It would be a great way to see the chaos and decay thru the city. one of the things I loved about BioShock was seeing this grand marvel of a city as you enter only to see the rubble behind it and seeing it fall apart. I wished BioShock 2 with its multiplayer being set during the times that rapture started devolving into civil war had let you leave your apartment to see what rapture was like when it was alive. even like a small market with guarded gates keeping you in a smaller area of rapture would've been fine and played into Andrew Ryans tightening of his control over the city. you could even have the various playable characters as npcs roaming around and you'd get dialogue from them depending on who you're playing as. My ultimate dream was always to have a rpg set in rapture shortly before and during the fall of the city as your own character. it didn't have to be fallout or elder scrolls level of character creation just something unique to you. I would've picked cyberpunk 2077s devs to do it. they made a beautiful city in such detail and made a well written story that while you do big things, you aren't some legendary hero or the man who stopped the apocalypse. you're just a very good merc. tone down the scale of the players accomplishments and keep the bittersweet endings and you could have a player character who can fit right in as a citizen of rapture without having to interact with any preestablished characters or at least not in a way that creates potholes. You could take from the bio2 multiplayer characters and have their pasts as backgrounds for your character that would give you unique dialogue encouraging replay ability. the endings depending on your choices could be that you escape and disappear into the surface, you end up as one of Fontaine's or Ryans thugs and get killed in the war or by Jack/Subject Delta, carve out a little gang that tries to rebuild a little corner of normalcy, or you're still scrounging in the city like the other splicers. You could also have variations of the endings depending on choices you've made. For example, maybe you escape to the surface with a case of Adam slugs or plasmids and start a black market for them/ sell out to the government, you start a normal life keeping your past and abilities secret forever or at least until you're ready or you reveal rapture and Adam to the world preventing any one government from keeping it to themselves but you're putting a power that destroyed one city into the hands of everyone good or bad. and that's just surface ending possibilities. You could stay with the themes cp2077 had about whether living or surviving were more important, and you could mix in a sort of deus ex Icarus theme of whether it's a good idea to have these kinds of advancements. after all, aside from the powers we also see that Adam could alter genes and appearance. Would you reveal it to the world in the hopes it could be used to make lives genuinely better for all and help people in their jobs, or lock it away fearing the rise of splicers and castes/the rich profiting of the common people?
great video. I am a massive bioshock fan to the point of tattoos. I have been watching everyone say development hell... I have always came back with "that is how Levine has always done things. Even without him the team will likely keep that cycle." It's nice to see someone with a similar view there. I hope you are right about the announcement. I am nearly done with the collections achievements, and need somewhere new to go.
Somthing to note is that in the last year or so, there's been a trend of announcing games closer to their planned release date, so maybe it is further in development than what we might be expecting, specially if it is likely ther announce it later this year or the next one.
True that. Love your videos btw dude. Your interview with Karl Hanover was fantastic Im glad your were able to tell him how much his performance means to so many people even if he downplayed it’s impact.
the only thing I personally need to know about a possible future bioshock 4 is that this game will be much more similar to 1 and 2 and less like infinity.
One of the best things about bio shock in my opinions is that it’s like an anthology show where it keeps some main gimmicks but experiments with them in some new and unique way so if 4 follows this trend I’ll be a happy gamer
You hit the nail on the head for me. Infinite was already out when I became a fan so I always saw it as a series that had great familiar gameplay slotted in different and interesting stories.
Yes I agree if they are releasing anything they need to at least do a teaser because it has been a while I am not saying making a game is easy by any standards but you can only get drip fed info for so long before something needs to be shown I love all the BioShock games like so many others I hope they show something soon
I just want to say now, that in case they will name the city Borealis, I named myself way earlier and based of the ship in HL2 E2. Also great vids bro, keep going!
What 4 can do to surpass all the others is leave it a semi open world story driven game with an extended storyline and multiple endings. Make it somewhat like the Fallout series but drive home some pivotal choices that will instantly or slowly effect gameplay and the environment you play in.
I hope it sticks better to the Original 2 games than the 3rd, I mean 3 was good, but it went in a direction that was hard to like as a Bioshock game. I still liked it a lot, but so much of 1 and 2 I missed that was either not present or hard to notice... I am sure others played it more than I did and know better, but that's my opinion
Loved BioShock 1&2 the hole Elitist destroying themselves was beautiful unfortunately I can't say the same for Infinite, religion and time travel combined just isn't for me, It's nice to hear their going back to 1&2 type of storyline, BioShock1 Ryan VS Fontaine, BioShock2 Delta VS Lamb, BioShock4 Rich VS Poor (come on we're all thinking it).
The city of Rapture was largely unexplored by the player due to the many locked doors and such. I'd like to go back to Rapture and 'play' in the city during its heyday. Some of the You Tube radio broadcasts to do with the characters in Bioshock, before the fall of Rapture, '12 days to Midnight' was VERY well done and really kept me interested "in these wilderness years'. There's SOOOOooooo many ways this game can go, staying underwater is one the better elements for me. The creaking, the groaning of the whole structure, Bill McDonough trying to stay on top of Rapture's leaks, boiling steam as well as freezing water, Dr Steinman's decent into madness (to be honest I think the whole lot of them were verging on the loopy side of total nut jobs). A city above and below the ice in Antartica sounds intriguing. Then why not put one on the Moon, after all, there are infinite lighthouses. Why not have a World Police Taskforce (WPT) to track down these rogue lighthouses and eliminate them before the can get a foothold and begin to grow into what we know they will become. Why not have it that the rules that are set in stone are that - sure as eggs is eggs, IF a Rapture city becomes established then sure enough, Adam and Eve will happen along, followed by Splicers with civil war before self combusting, only to reappear wherever else Humanity is established. A booming economy, things looking all rosey for Humanity - 'yay - great mom, what's six times seven? (42 of course, thank you Douglas adams) 'don't ask me silly, ask your Rapture tutor computer, it'll take care of ALL of your mental requirements' and with that the human mind atrophies and all to soon the Spilcers are coming and alarms are 'banging off all over - get a move on Johhny'! The rise and fall of Humanity, fuelled by Adam. Dr Tenenbaum would give the drug cartels of South America a run for their money - yes? I mean, who needs cocaine when you've got sea slugs...
thank you so much for making a video with this title on a game that's ACTUALLY BEING MADE! I swear there's so many bogus articles out there about games that are simply are just in speculation, and it kinda pisses me off.
Bioshock Isolation Protagonist: Lanette Smith "A woman who is a Artist at heart, and a Hopeful dream, she went to Boralis to study abroad, but fate wanted her to add some firepower to her pallete, Now she must join up with Maxim Artis, finding out what Secrets that Boralis holds..."
I just like to think that Bioshock one is the only canon one. The others are solid games 2 more so than Infinite. But the story of 1 just works better as its own thing.
They could go the last of us route. The show is only making the franchise bigger and netflix's bioshock movie could create unbelievable hype for anything bioshock. Although the game's art style is iconic and somewhat timeless. I could see a remake (similar to the successful Resident Evil games) where they improve upon the dated gameplay mechanics and aim for a much more realistic game. Imagine how terrifying that could be! Regardless, Bioshock is a franchise I revisit every few years and always find something I previously missed. Ken Levine is a genius.
I heard that the story has been completely rewritten multiple times, so who knows. Having said that, I’d like to share my concept for a Bioshock 4 here, if you’ll indulge me. The game would be divided into two acts. Act 1 would take place in Rapture, while Act 2 takes place in Columbia. The player assumes the role of a CIA agent by the name of John Lackley. This good-natured yet haunted man has just returned from a assignment in South Vietnam, and is looking towards some peace and quiet. That is until a pair of odd twins at headquarters hand him his next assignment. In this universe, the US government has discovered both cities due to the sheer amount of debris flouting UP from Rapture and falling DOWN from Columbia. Since Columbia was stolen from the US by Comstock, and Rapture was technically one of Ryan’s assets that were frozen by the government, the US claimed both cities belonged to them. The story follows Lackley as he and a handful of soldiers (SEALS for Rapture, Paratroopers for Columbia) are sent in to secure the cities. Over the course of the game, Lackley fights crazed Splicers, bloodthirsty Vox Populi, Soviet KGB agents and his own moral compass as he tears through the wrecked utopias. The game would have two endings: the First Ending, where he destroys both cities to prevent the government from gaining control over them as he fears what horrors would be unleashed upon the world. He is promptly fired and history progresses as normal, for better or for worse. In the Second Ending, he secures both cities and returns home a hero. Armed with the power of Plasmids/Vigors and a flying sky-fortress, The USA wins The Vietnam War and even goes on to crush China, as they had tried to intervene like they did in Korea. For better or for worse, the two cities have brought untold power to their masters, and the world will never be the same. Whichever ending is the Good/Bad one is left to the player and their own morals, as is weather or not the world would avoid the genetic hedonism of the two cities, or weather the Human Condition demands mankind repeats its mistakes. I was going to include a incredibly slow-burn “romance” subplot between Lackley and a slightly-less-feral-than-normal Big Sister, but stuff like that should stay on Wattpad where it belongs. Thank You for your time.
There's that new Bioshock-esque game coming out called JUDAS because it's got Ken Levine on it... but if there's another Bioshock directly related to the other 3? That just gives me even more HYPE!!! I remember how hyped I was for Atomic Heart with how similar that was too!!! Which is weird idk how that game was so similar to Bioshock lol
I love the art STYLE. I love the story. Would love to see graphics so impressive they look like one of those unreal demos. I would honestly upgrade my video card if the graphics were as impressive as Crysis was when it came out.
what he just said right there about reviving bioschock wouldn't they just remaster the entire collection? or have they done that already i have not been paying any attention?
honestly I'm optimistic about bioshock 4 I like the idea of this new setting of the game and I think that even if the movie adaptation is bad I will probably just watch it for the cgi as well as the actors performances of the various characters in the game. I don't mind that it is in development hell for so long as long as hopefully the final game will be good. I remember I waited a really freaking long time for infinite and that game ended up blowing me away and exceeded all my expectations, so I don't mind waiting long for an awesome end result.
I will continue to believe this game will never come out until I see an actual trailer with a release schedule. Until then, this game won’t be happening in my mind.
I wanna have a bioshock like dead space remake, where you can explore the whole city of rapture, in its prime or after the events of infinite, whatever filled the power vacuum in rapture to create a set of plasmids that are strictly offensive n is a force to face
I'm playing the original three right know completed them All back in the day but just got the PS4 collection brilliant franchise can't wait for this new one
I could see a teaser being announced for a release at the game awards this year, but not an actual game release in 2024 at best maybe mid to late 2025 but i would not be surprised it would be 2026.
I'm feeling a bit optimistic, I fear the game may not be good because of the development hell and the open world idea. But who knows, maybe the game will turn out the great. Only time will tell.
Ive been waiting for a trailer for Bioshock at the game awards for the past 3 years lol, and every year I sit there thinking this time it will be different
Infinite was dumbed down so much because it should've been on the next gen consoles. It was far too linear and there weren't enough plasmids/special enemies
That's the thing: BioShock 1 in particular wasn't only FPS or Immersive Sim; It was also Survival Horror, Puzzle, and Action RPG. A real mishmash of various ideas.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 i mean system shock and the immersive sim genre was the primary focal point for the inspiration of the game. Ken Levine has said as much multiple times, but you're definitely right. I just feel as though the immersive sim genre is so few and far between with masterpieces like bioshock, system shock one and two, deus ex human revolution, dishonored, and prey. Tears of the kingdom i guess if you count it. I want more excellent games in the genre because we see games like bioshock and dishonored have both commercial and critical appeal by striking that pivotal balance. I hope that the take 2 team learned the correct lessons from recent entries in the genre as well as what worked with the previous bioshock games to give us a good immersive sim, and not just another fps game with a good narrative.
Just keep it in Rapture please, there's still so much they can do still. Infinite was so wack and has such a ret-con story and copied the style of CoD at the time that they literally went back to the OG formula in the DLCs so that speaks volumes.
Honestly would like to see a remaster of 1 before a sequel, and I mean a true remaster in the way that Halo 2 anniversary did. As much as I love bioshock I don’t think everything great needs to be continued. As for the bioshock movie, as a kid I wanted one so bad, but after all of the massive disappointment I don’t think it’s worth it to try anymore
If I remember right the winter/ice setting was found out to be not true , it was made up by a prominent “leaker” and from what I remember the devs debunked or the fans maybe. I may be completely wrong though and mixed some stuff up
Bioshock infinite was a disappointment but still fun to play. I personally enjoyed the 1st 2 games, and multiplayer! No more xbox360...I think they should continue the original storyline and explore the rapture collapse. A new villain perhaps that rebuilt it, or relocated it. Maybe instead of little sisters, little brothers and big Mommas? 😂 I won't hold my breath though. I'd hate to be disappointed.
As nice as it would've been, a 2024 release feels a little too close. Maybe a November release if everything goes well. Personally think people want to see a preview. And then it's at least a year polish 🙂 so a early to mid 2025 release and it will be great. That is if they closing in on a working demonstration before the end of this year.
100% agree with the location. The eerie and isolate ambiance of Rapture was one of my favorite things about Bioshock 1 and 2. Antarctica would be a perfect staging ground for more of that. Imagine getting to fight John Carptenter’s ‘The Thing’ as a Bioshock boss. Hard disagree on the guns thing, though. I have to have my weapon wheel.
@@geneericname7138 Slug monster "the thing" would be a wicked boss. My greatest issue with the weapon wheel was more or less the weapon variety being so balanced to "automatic gun" "pistol" "shotgun" etc. However if they had a weaponwheel that could have options as to what you're carrying that would be neat. I liked having variants of weapons in Infinite, so having that split of well to do above grounders vs pauper under grounders would be a cool way to bring that back.
@@MotH_V01D That sounds even better than just having a weapon wheel. If each faction had their own variations of every kind of weapon then you could mix-and-match them. Take the machine gun from one faction, shotgun from another, and maybe a pistol from a third. The variations of each weapon would have to be significantly different though; not just one machine gun fires 15% slower and hits 15% harder. If your contention is with weapons all being ‘pistol, shotgun, machine gun’ though, I feel I should point out that those aren’t so much ‘weapons’ as ‘weapon archetypes’. You’d be hard-pressed to find an FPS that _doesn’t_ do that since any automatic ranged weapon that fires rapidly and uses a magazine containing a high number of rounds is de-facto a machine gun/automatic rifle, regardless of what it looks like.
Does anyone else think that bioshock got worse with each game? 1 was great, 2 was good, and I think infinite was actually boring and stupid by the end.
I want the next bioshock to just forget about all the multiverse stuff. Burial at sea ruined it, by trying involve rapture--only to mess with canon. Now, Im not opposed to being in another universe. What I dont want is some overly-convoluted, trying to be highbrow, Christoper Nolan-esque story. Just give me a beautiful story about the complexity and corruption of human society with well-developed shooting and super power mechanics.
If there is a #4 then I hope the story is better than Infinite. I loved 1 and thought 2 was decent but Infinite was dumbed-down and really predictable. I know I am probably in the minority, but to me, Infinite tried way too hard to be clever and ended up giving away everything. The story was really weak and was not even consistent with it's own world-building.
This thing has been in development hell for ages. I want to remain optimistic, but some friends and I occasionally look at job openings at cloud chamber and employee reviews and it is in BAD shape. They have crazy turnover and former employees cite a lack of direction in the project. This game is either never coming out or it’s gonna suck.
"I am very sad to say that certain members of this creative leadership team are just flatly incompetent."
Honestly you're right
If it was announced in 2019 and still has no official title/even one screenshot, it's really bad
Some indie games have went through rough development in the same time frame (second bendy title,as example,i believe) but still were published
Take two did announce Judas
I just hope Bioshock 4 will be more like Bioshock 1 and 2 in terms of gameplay then Bioshock Infinite. The 2 gun system really does not work for Bioshock and the weapons in Infinite just weren’t as iconic as the weapons in the first 2
Delta have some cool guns... and his drill was OP
Same
Lmfao what are you on about they don't work? The wonky ass weapons from 2 were worse
Bioshock Infinite’s gunplay is super solid (I personally think it’s the best in the franchise) but there’s no denying that in the first 2 games you could get a lot more creative with all different weapons at your disposal
@@AbdulAhad-hx1ft I honestly just could not enjoy the gun gameplay in Bioshock Infinite, especially with how many bullet sponges you have to fight
god these games are so nostalgic.
just watching this brings me back to such a better time.
bioshock 2 was and is
simply a masterpiece!
literally
YEEES!!!!
if they drop a 4 i hope they bring the multiplayer back ! i remember fondly logging into my xbox 360 booting up BioShock 2 and fighting other online players dressed up as splicers. I also think it was one of the first first person multiplayer experiences that introduced superpowers into the gameplay way before overwatch and valorant decided to do so. An episode covering that history would be neat.
Fantastic idea. Bioshocks 2s multiplayer is absolutely fascinating from the premise to the questionable canonicity maps wise. I’d love to cover it.
FACTS multiplayer in 2 was so fun for me
It was really fun, only it wasn't balanced at all and everyone just ran around with crossbow/elephant gun and electro shock
@@dukenukem69 as if the best part wasn't just running around and hacking all the turrets 🤭 that was always my aim
@@respectable-username I forgot all about the turrets. Yeah I would constantly be moving around the map hacking them too. For some reason most people would ignore them but when you went up against someone who was trying to hack em it made it interesting
If you had to ask me what to do for another bioshock. I would suggest a new city that plays on common human fears. Rapture had the fear of drowning and Columbia was the fear of falling.
I would suggest a city that plays on another common human fear or several. An underground city has the potential for the fear of tight spaces, fear of the dark and the fear of being buried alive all at the same time.
Underground city, that you have to travel through a deep forest to get to would be cool.
Underground I can see sprt of working. But its not just based on fears. It's having a city that would realistically be impossible but somehow believable. Underground has the chance of being crushed. Similar to water. I think Underground and space are 2 locations everyone thinks of. Which is a problem. Because the location of bioshock should be shocking and unpredictable.
The antarctic city in a glacier/volcano makes a lot of sense in terms of parallels to Rapture. The glacier city is surrounded by water. The lower city is in a more volcanoish area. Which Rapture actually had in hepheastus. It ran off of geothermal energy which the new city could as well. An underground city could also run on geothermal too
@@RealBradMillerthat would be a dream bioshock game. Something different too
Thats probably exactly what theyre making right now.. Underground city.
@@lalotime look into the underground cities, such as Matiate! Truly fascinating. Great comment, I agree on the glacier too, or even an iceberg city!
Getting teasers for a Bioshock movie, a new Bioshock game and a new Ken Levine game all at the Game Awards would be absolutely insane if it happens.
Well remember Ken Levine is working on a Bioshock type game called JUDAS... but idk how much it references Bioshock itself or if it's even related. Been on the online stores for forever and it says "coming soon" so who knows when that'll release. I'm so pumped for it though!
Ken Levine can disappear for all I care
Refreshing to watch a video like this that just gets straight to the point, lays out the facts, and only partially focuses on speculation.
If B4 were to be re-revealed this year, it'd be nice to be wowed by the series again...
You're absolutely right. The silence around this franchise is CRAZY. It truly is a staple of modern gaming that countless games give praise for inspiration. I really hope it gets announced.
Honestly, I kind of want BioShock 4 to explore the aftermath of Rapture's collapse, particularly in regards to surface countries, after the good ending of BioShock 2: What do these various countries do now that they know there's this abandoned underwater city off the coast of Iceland filled to the brim with technology and weapons that seem straight out of Sci-Fi stories, and what are the results of this potential ransacking of Rapture's ruins? Does this lead to good opportunities to advance humanity, or does this lead to tensions in the Cold War greatly increasing, thereby bringing the planet ever closer to a third World War than it ever has? What new experiments would arise from the discovery of ADAM, Plasmids, Big Daddies, Little Sisters, Pneumo Tubes, and other stuff by the rest of the world? How would the two superpowers of the United States and Soviet Union react to such a discovery, and would they use it to their advantage? Hell, with such a concept, it'd be an easy way to bring back the multiplayer from BioShock 2 as that was a surprisingly good multiplayer mode, but in a completely different context now that various governments have seen the military potential of ADAM; Besides, we all know Take Two would LOVE to squeeze in a multiplayer mode, and they already have a decent template in the one from BioShock 2: Just simply take and update the basic mechanics of that mode, add new match types, expand the arsenal, change up the playable characters, change up the factions, and there you go.
Cool but the outside world could've known about rapture a long time ago because there's the art for BioShock 2 and the guy tried to tell people just it wasn't working and he just decided he was gonna go to rapture but cool idea! :>
Also I love the under water city setting, the Big Daddies and Sisters it was so raw!
honestly open world BioShock sound fitting. It would be a great way to see the chaos and decay thru the city. one of the things I loved about BioShock was seeing this grand marvel of a city as you enter only to see the rubble behind it and seeing it fall apart. I wished BioShock 2 with its multiplayer being set during the times that rapture started devolving into civil war had let you leave your apartment to see what rapture was like when it was alive. even like a small market with guarded gates keeping you in a smaller area of rapture would've been fine and played into Andrew Ryans tightening of his control over the city. you could even have the various playable characters as npcs roaming around and you'd get dialogue from them depending on who you're playing as.
My ultimate dream was always to have a rpg set in rapture shortly before and during the fall of the city as your own character. it didn't have to be fallout or elder scrolls level of character creation just something unique to you. I would've picked cyberpunk 2077s devs to do it. they made a beautiful city in such detail and made a well written story that while you do big things, you aren't some legendary hero or the man who stopped the apocalypse. you're just a very good merc. tone down the scale of the players accomplishments and keep the bittersweet endings and you could have a player character who can fit right in as a citizen of rapture without having to interact with any preestablished characters or at least not in a way that creates potholes.
You could take from the bio2 multiplayer characters and have their pasts as backgrounds for your character that would give you unique dialogue encouraging replay ability. the endings depending on your choices could be that you escape and disappear into the surface, you end up as one of Fontaine's or Ryans thugs and get killed in the war or by Jack/Subject Delta, carve out a little gang that tries to rebuild a little corner of normalcy, or you're still scrounging in the city like the other splicers.
You could also have variations of the endings depending on choices you've made. For example, maybe you escape to the surface with a case of Adam slugs or plasmids and start a black market for them/ sell out to the government, you start a normal life keeping your past and abilities secret forever or at least until you're ready or you reveal rapture and Adam to the world preventing any one government from keeping it to themselves but you're putting a power that destroyed one city into the hands of everyone good or bad. and that's just surface ending possibilities.
You could stay with the themes cp2077 had about whether living or surviving were more important, and you could mix in a sort of deus ex Icarus theme of whether it's a good idea to have these kinds of advancements. after all, aside from the powers we also see that Adam could alter genes and appearance.
Would you reveal it to the world in the hopes it could be used to make lives genuinely better for all and help people in their jobs, or lock it away fearing the rise of splicers and castes/the rich profiting of the common people?
great video. I am a massive bioshock fan to the point of tattoos. I have been watching everyone say development hell... I have always came back with "that is how Levine has always done things. Even without him the team will likely keep that cycle." It's nice to see someone with a similar view there. I hope you are right about the announcement. I am nearly done with the collections achievements, and need somewhere new to go.
Bro I just finished the Burial at sea video then this came out, genius timing!
Somthing to note is that in the last year or so, there's been a trend of announcing games closer to their planned release date, so maybe it is further in development than what we might be expecting, specially if it is likely ther announce it later this year or the next one.
Hopefully we hear something soon my friend. Been waiting for info since the original announcement in 2019 lol.
True that. Love your videos btw dude. Your interview with Karl Hanover was fantastic Im glad your were able to tell him how much his performance means to so many people even if he downplayed it’s impact.
@@B4BrandossOG Appreciate you brother! By chance, do you have a Discord? I'd like to talk to you when you have the chance.
@@TheBioshockHubYeah I do. Email me at brandossb8@gmail.com and I’ll let you know my discord details.
how is this not blowing up rn, this is amazing
the only thing I personally need to know about a possible future bioshock 4 is that this game will be much more similar to 1 and 2 and less like infinity.
One of the best things about bio shock in my opinions is that it’s like an anthology show where it keeps some main gimmicks but experiments with them in some new and unique way so if 4 follows this trend I’ll be a happy gamer
You hit the nail on the head for me. Infinite was already out when I became a fan so I always saw it as a series that had great familiar gameplay slotted in different and interesting stories.
Yes I agree if they are releasing anything they need to at least do a teaser because it has been a while I am not saying making a game is easy by any standards but you can only get drip fed info for so long before something needs to be shown I love all the BioShock games like so many others I hope they show something soon
I just want to say now, that in case they will name the city Borealis, I named myself way earlier and based of the ship in HL2 E2. Also great vids bro, keep going!
Why would a city at the south pole be called Borealis
I think it should be set in space. Just seems like the flow for it from sea to sky to space
What 4 can do to surpass all the others is leave it a semi open world story driven game with an extended storyline and multiple endings. Make it somewhat like the Fallout series but drive home some pivotal choices that will instantly or slowly effect gameplay and the environment you play in.
I don't care when it comes out, i just want it to be good
I hope it sticks better to the Original 2 games than the 3rd, I mean 3 was good, but it went in a direction that was hard to like as a Bioshock game. I still liked it a lot, but so much of 1 and 2 I missed that was either not present or hard to notice... I am sure others played it more than I did and know better, but that's my opinion
Really excited to see the new Bioshock game and movie!
Loved BioShock 1&2 the hole Elitist destroying themselves was beautiful unfortunately I can't say the same for Infinite, religion and time travel combined just isn't for me, It's nice to hear their going back to 1&2 type of storyline, BioShock1 Ryan VS Fontaine, BioShock2 Delta VS Lamb, BioShock4 Rich VS Poor (come on we're all thinking it).
The city of Rapture was largely unexplored by the player due to the many locked doors and such. I'd like to go back to Rapture and 'play' in the city during its heyday. Some of the You Tube radio broadcasts to do with the characters in Bioshock, before the fall of Rapture, '12 days to Midnight' was VERY well done and really kept me interested "in these wilderness years'.
There's SOOOOooooo many ways this game can go, staying underwater is one the better elements for me. The creaking, the groaning of the whole structure, Bill McDonough trying to stay on top of Rapture's leaks, boiling steam as well as freezing water, Dr Steinman's decent into madness (to be honest I think the whole lot of them were verging on the loopy side of total nut jobs).
A city above and below the ice in Antartica sounds intriguing. Then why not put one on the Moon, after all, there are infinite lighthouses. Why not have a World Police Taskforce (WPT) to track down these rogue lighthouses and eliminate them before the can get a foothold and begin to grow into what we know they will become.
Why not have it that the rules that are set in stone are that - sure as eggs is eggs, IF a Rapture city becomes established then sure enough, Adam and Eve will happen along, followed by Splicers with civil war before self combusting, only to reappear wherever else Humanity is established.
A booming economy, things looking all rosey for Humanity - 'yay - great mom, what's six times seven? (42 of course, thank you Douglas adams) 'don't ask me silly, ask your Rapture tutor computer, it'll take care of ALL of your mental requirements' and with that the human mind atrophies and all to soon the Spilcers are coming and alarms are 'banging off all over - get a move on Johhny'!
The rise and fall of Humanity, fuelled by Adam. Dr Tenenbaum would give the drug cartels of South America a run for their money - yes?
I mean, who needs cocaine when you've got sea slugs...
thank you so much for making a video with this title on a game that's ACTUALLY BEING MADE! I swear there's so many bogus articles out there about games that are simply are just in speculation, and it kinda pisses me off.
Bioshock Isolation Protagonist: Lanette Smith
"A woman who is a Artist at heart, and a Hopeful dream, she went to Boralis to study abroad, but fate wanted her to add some firepower to her pallete, Now she must join up with Maxim Artis, finding out what Secrets that Boralis holds..."
up and below cities reminds me of Piltover and Zaun, cant wait to see it in this setting.
Bioshock 4 will be highly anticipated 🔥
I just like to think that Bioshock one is the only canon one. The others are solid games 2 more so than Infinite. But the story of 1 just works better as its own thing.
Nice, I recently repaired Bioshock 1 and 2 since I hardly remembered anything about my first playthrough and now I've gotta repay the 3rd one.
6:19 OK 😂 What do you think I mean we know you like Bioshock, is Bioshock 4 a good idea or not ?
I can't wait for BioShock 4 I want another game there is so much they can do with the BioShock franchise in alternate universe form
Very informative and well formed video! Thanks for the info.
We live in hope.
Provavelmente será um jogo incrível :D
I just learned about the Borealis rumor in this video, and now I want it so bad
Me too!
"Reminder that they have not forgotten bioshock infinite "
Mmm mabey they should
I'm excited for this.
They could go the last of us route. The show is only making the franchise bigger and netflix's bioshock movie could create unbelievable hype for anything bioshock. Although the game's art style is iconic and somewhat timeless. I could see a remake (similar to the successful Resident Evil games) where they improve upon the dated gameplay mechanics and aim for a much more realistic game. Imagine how terrifying that could be! Regardless, Bioshock is a franchise I revisit every few years and always find something I previously missed. Ken Levine is a genius.
Thank you kindly.
That bouncer jumping while holding the little sisters hand is a classic. I cant remember where ive seen it tho 😢
Bioshock 1 and 2: City Underwater
Bioshock Infinite: City in the Sky
Bioshock 4: City Underground??
movie? when?
Or a 1950s isolationist-fueled moon colony. That would be like being trapped at the bottom of the sea but worse. :)
I heard that the story has been completely rewritten multiple times, so who knows.
Having said that, I’d like to share my concept for a Bioshock 4 here, if you’ll indulge me.
The game would be divided into two acts. Act 1 would take place in Rapture, while Act 2 takes place in Columbia.
The player assumes the role of a CIA agent by the name of John Lackley. This good-natured yet haunted man has just returned from a assignment in South Vietnam, and is looking towards some peace and quiet. That is until a pair of odd twins at headquarters hand him his next assignment.
In this universe, the US government has discovered both cities due to the sheer amount of debris flouting UP from Rapture and falling DOWN from Columbia. Since Columbia was stolen from the US by Comstock, and Rapture was technically one of Ryan’s assets that were frozen by the government, the US claimed both cities belonged to them.
The story follows Lackley as he and a handful of soldiers (SEALS for Rapture, Paratroopers for Columbia) are sent in to secure the cities. Over the course of the game, Lackley fights crazed Splicers, bloodthirsty Vox Populi, Soviet KGB agents and his own moral compass as he tears through the wrecked utopias.
The game would have two endings: the First Ending, where he destroys both cities to prevent the government from gaining control over them as he fears what horrors would be unleashed upon the world. He is promptly fired and history progresses as normal, for better or for worse.
In the Second Ending, he secures both cities and returns home a hero. Armed with the power of Plasmids/Vigors and a flying sky-fortress, The USA wins The Vietnam War and even goes on to crush China, as they had tried to intervene like they did in Korea. For better or for worse, the two cities have brought untold power to their masters, and the world will never be the same.
Whichever ending is the Good/Bad one is left to the player and their own morals, as is weather or not the world would avoid the genetic hedonism of the two cities, or weather the Human Condition demands mankind repeats its mistakes.
I was going to include a incredibly slow-burn “romance” subplot between Lackley and a slightly-less-feral-than-normal Big Sister, but stuff like that should stay on Wattpad where it belongs.
Thank You for your time.
There's that new Bioshock-esque game coming out called JUDAS because it's got Ken Levine on it... but if there's another Bioshock directly related to the other 3? That just gives me even more HYPE!!! I remember how hyped I was for Atomic Heart with how similar that was too!!! Which is weird idk how that game was so similar to Bioshock lol
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I love the art STYLE. I love the story. Would love to see graphics so impressive they look like one of those unreal demos. I would honestly upgrade my video card if the graphics were as impressive as Crysis was when it came out.
what he just said right there about reviving bioschock wouldn't they just remaster the entire collection? or have they done that already i have not been paying any attention?
honestly I'm optimistic about bioshock 4 I like the idea of this new setting of the game and I think that even if the movie adaptation is bad I will probably just watch it for the cgi as well as the actors performances of the various characters in the game. I don't mind that it is in development hell for so long as long as hopefully the final game will be good. I remember I waited a really freaking long time for infinite and that game ended up blowing me away and exceeded all my expectations, so I don't mind waiting long for an awesome end result.
Wait, bioshock 3 is out already?
I will continue to believe this game will never come out until I see an actual trailer with a release schedule. Until then, this game won’t be happening in my mind.
I wanna have a bioshock like dead space remake, where you can explore the whole city of rapture, in its prime or after the events of infinite, whatever filled the power vacuum in rapture to create a set of plasmids that are strictly offensive n is a force to face
Eww no more remakes
Hope, we can fight Big Brother. Thus, the family of trio with Big Daddy, Big Sister and finally Big Brother is complete.
love u man would love to hear more from u
I'm playing the original three right know completed them All back in the day but just got the PS4 collection brilliant franchise can't wait for this new one
I could see a teaser being announced for a release at the game awards this year, but not an actual game release in 2024 at best maybe mid to late 2025 but i would not be surprised it would be 2026.
This will be fun
I hope they fix the save points
Earned a subscriber.
Open level is not the same as open world at all. Thief and System Shock 2 were open level.
Set on Mars ,in the 80's.That's what i'd like to see
Wow a possible movie and a 4th game, sounds awesome, but a movie these days is more worrying then exciting
Damn its gonna be hard to top the MASTERPIECE aka INFINITE but I'm optimistic.I absolutely LOVE EVERYTHING BIOSHOCK!!!!!
Prey literally just needs an intro of you entering a rocket (kinda like a tower) and it could be Bioshock
I want to see like.rapture after it got destroy when and we can investigate
I hope they have some reference to infinite’s constant and variables concept, pretty cool way to incorporate different universes and characters.
Judas looks dope
If the next game is really supposed to be in the Arctic, then maybe the movie is to show how the choice for this city to exist came about?
I'm feeling a bit optimistic, I fear the game may not be good because of the development hell and the open world idea. But who knows, maybe the game will turn out the great. Only time will tell.
infinite was hell too, the development was crazy
Really hope this comes out before I die 😅
Bioshock Forever
Ive been waiting for a trailer for Bioshock at the game awards for the past 3 years lol, and every year I sit there thinking this time it will be different
Bioshock on PSVR2 would be amazing
I just hope it’s more immersive simmy than first person shootey. Infinite is brilliant but there’s a reason why 1 & 2 are so awesome
Infinite was dumbed down so much because it should've been on the next gen consoles. It was far too linear and there weren't enough plasmids/special enemies
That's the thing: BioShock 1 in particular wasn't only FPS or Immersive Sim; It was also Survival Horror, Puzzle, and Action RPG. A real mishmash of various ideas.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 i mean system shock and the immersive sim genre was the primary focal point for the inspiration of the game. Ken Levine has said as much multiple times, but you're definitely right. I just feel as though the immersive sim genre is so few and far between with masterpieces like bioshock, system shock one and two, deus ex human revolution, dishonored, and prey. Tears of the kingdom i guess if you count it. I want more excellent games in the genre because we see games like bioshock and dishonored have both commercial and critical appeal by striking that pivotal balance. I hope that the take 2 team learned the correct lessons from recent entries in the genre as well as what worked with the previous bioshock games to give us a good immersive sim, and not just another fps game with a good narrative.
Just keep it in Rapture please, there's still so much they can do still. Infinite was so wack and has such a ret-con story and copied the style of CoD at the time that they literally went back to the OG formula in the DLCs so that speaks volumes.
I know right
I hope Bioshock 4 takes place after Bioshock 2, I want to see what happened to Eleanor and the little girls after they escaped Rapture.
personally I thought the next game would have been like under ground or in space but antartica is pretty cool
Northern lights (aurora borealis)... Aliens/Hallow Earth/ Magnetic Field Manipulation/Secret Societies its all on the table for this one.
Yeah I have been on a bioshock craze lately
this video is 100x better then the bioshock hub ramblings
Why would a city at the south pole be called Borealis
What about JUDAS?
Honestly would like to see a remaster of 1 before a sequel, and I mean a true remaster in the way that Halo 2 anniversary did. As much as I love bioshock I don’t think everything great needs to be continued. As for the bioshock movie, as a kid I wanted one so bad, but after all of the massive disappointment I don’t think it’s worth it to try anymore
If I remember right the winter/ice setting was found out to be not true , it was made up by a prominent “leaker” and from what I remember the devs debunked or the fans maybe. I may be completely wrong though and mixed some stuff up
thats good to hear, an ice setting doesn't sound that appealing
I wonder if it will be an actual Bioshock game or if it'll just be like Infinite?
Bioshock infinite was a disappointment but still fun to play. I personally enjoyed the 1st 2 games, and multiplayer! No more xbox360...I think they should continue the original storyline and explore the rapture collapse. A new villain perhaps that rebuilt it, or relocated it. Maybe instead of little sisters, little brothers and big Mommas? 😂 I won't hold my breath though. I'd hate to be disappointed.
As nice as it would've been, a 2024 release feels a little too close. Maybe a November release if everything goes well. Personally think people want to see a preview. And then it's at least a year polish 🙂 so a early to mid 2025 release and it will be great. That is if they closing in on a working demonstration before the end of this year.
An Antarctic city would be a really neat alternative to Rapture/Columbia kinda hoping they keep the gunplay of Infinite.
100% agree with the location. The eerie and isolate ambiance of Rapture was one of my favorite things about Bioshock 1 and 2. Antarctica would be a perfect staging ground for more of that. Imagine getting to fight John Carptenter’s ‘The Thing’ as a Bioshock boss. Hard disagree on the guns thing, though. I have to have my weapon wheel.
@@geneericname7138 Slug monster "the thing" would be a wicked boss.
My greatest issue with the weapon wheel was more or less the weapon variety being so balanced to "automatic gun" "pistol" "shotgun" etc. However if they had a weaponwheel that could have options as to what you're carrying that would be neat. I liked having variants of weapons in Infinite, so having that split of well to do above grounders vs pauper under grounders would be a cool way to bring that back.
@@MotH_V01D That sounds even better than just having a weapon wheel. If each faction had their own variations of every kind of weapon then you could mix-and-match them. Take the machine gun from one faction, shotgun from another, and maybe a pistol from a third. The variations of each weapon would have to be significantly different though; not just one machine gun fires 15% slower and hits 15% harder. If your contention is with weapons all being ‘pistol, shotgun, machine gun’ though, I feel I should point out that those aren’t so much ‘weapons’ as ‘weapon archetypes’. You’d be hard-pressed to find an FPS that _doesn’t_ do that since any automatic ranged weapon that fires rapidly and uses a magazine containing a high number of rounds is de-facto a machine gun/automatic rifle, regardless of what it looks like.
They shouldn't keep anything from infinite
Of the three games, infinite is easily the best.@@Ronam0451
Does anyone else think that bioshock got worse with each game? 1 was great, 2 was good, and I think infinite was actually boring and stupid by the end.
I want the next bioshock to just forget about all the multiverse stuff. Burial at sea ruined it, by trying involve rapture--only to mess with canon.
Now, Im not opposed to being in another universe. What I dont want is some overly-convoluted, trying to be highbrow, Christoper Nolan-esque story. Just give me a beautiful story about the complexity and corruption of human society with well-developed shooting and super power mechanics.
I'm perfectly content with how the trilogy wraps up at the end of Infinite DLC. I don't need any other BioShock I know i'll only be dissapointed.
If there is a #4 then I hope the story is better than Infinite. I loved 1 and thought 2 was decent but Infinite was dumbed-down and really predictable. I know I am probably in the minority, but to me, Infinite tried way too hard to be clever and ended up giving away everything. The story was really weak and was not even consistent with it's own world-building.
Infinite was so kid yet everyone and their mum wants to say it’s not
I want a BioShock / Dishonored crossover.
That's gonna require a deal with Microsoft for obvious reasons.
Open world Bioshock sounds fuckin' wild
A city called Borealis, be carefull people, Cave Johnson may sue for copyright.
How in the world have I never heard of this.