Lasspeng "When Picasso became bored of painting people, he started representing them as cubes and other abstract forms. The world called him a genius! I've spent my entire surgical career creating the same tired shapes, over and over again: the upturned nose, the cleft chin, the ample bosom. Wouldn't it be wonderful if I could do with a knife what that old Spaniard did with a brush?" And that's how a crazy is born.
The city dose have leakes, and the big Daddies are always repairing them, also there was a part in the first bioshock, with an audio tape, stating the if the water wasn't heated, the pipes would bust with frozen water.
@@kalash9467 um I don’t m ow if you know how they are made but it’s large diving suits obviously but then humans are taken and their skin is grafted to fit on the lining of the suit of the big daddy and along with that the person before this undergoes a voice box modifier installing a voice box into your vocal cords along with being peppered with pheromones for the little sisters so um no probably not
@Casswury Not really sinking on its own. Rapture was stable enough to not sink on the platform it was seated on. The genuine problem was that Sofia Lamb, in response to Subject Delta and Eleanor's imminent escape and destruction of her idea of utopia, went off her nut and started setting explosives all over the Persephone area. that combined with the damages caused by Sofia's attempts to kill Subject Delta, the Big Sisters butchering the place in an attempt to kill him (As early as the first chapter, a Big Sister slices the viewing glass apart in a room, flooding various areas of Rapture in an attempt to kill Delta. Too bad for her, Subject Delta's diving suit works.), and when Sofia set off the bombs on the lifeboat Delta and Eleanor in an attempt to kill them, it did enough damage to crush and sink that area of Rapture into an ocean trench. Still, though, the materials used by Rapture are not the most durable (Aluminum in place of steel, for example), leading to it eventually being crushed by the weight of the ocean regardless.
Bouncing off that I also remember that in a hidden space u can find a tape that talks about the pipes and that it is almost impossible to start fixing it when it starts leaking so ye the city isn’t perfect
rjd1922 well technically the reason everyone went crazy was because of the Adam drug people weren’t able to host large amount of Adam and they got addicted to it and they went crazy
@@ohhdahveed3561 Which is pretty funny become some people use rapture as an argument against libertarian civilizations when the in game reason for raptures failure is literal magic
@fiddle I would have to look further into the story to see how true this is but the interesting thing is that a lot of the problems of rapture could have been solved by automation which would lead me to believe that if enough time would have passed without a disaster they would have been fine.
@fiddle If not for Fontaine violating the principles of objectivism for his own gain, ADAM would not have become so widely used and the Civil War would not have happened, same goes for Ryan turning against his beliefs at the end of such war.
@@InitialPC But that’s the problem with a society being “too free” eventually some opportunists will come in and disrupt it and it falls apart. Granted this is arguably also possible in a totalitarian society as well, but the whole free aspect makes it appealing as a target for an opportunist
The water leaks, shown at many points in the game must have flooded the city in seconds. I cannot imagine the size of pumps that would be needed to maintain oxygen pressure.
A shallow city with wide and not tall buildings would work better, maybe even have half of the taller buildings stick out of the oceans. Oxygen would not be a problem, simply pump the air through connections from building to building, and sunlight could come in to parts of the buildings and even redirected to the darker locations underwater with fiber optics. Rust would be a problem and pressure and weather, but those could be overcome. Food and waste would be very large problems, would likely need to ship those in and out and produce only a little food in the city.
Or screw it all and go with star gate atlantas method of a dome, they distribute better than arches and could probably be better maintained and help maintain natural cycle through electric light/light strips on ceilings. ... Would still be rather enormous cost but probably much easier focus maintenance
So lets ignore the fact they have managed science based advances that would be impossible. Stands to reason if they manage to make things like plasmids and adam then it stands to reason they could manage it
No, not really. There's no evidence in the game that Rapture's materials science or structural engineering was in any way superior to that of the 1940s, or today. They had advanced robotics and genetic science, but without impossibly strong materials or some as-yet-unheard-of architectural method for managing crushing ocean pressures, Rapture's soaring skyline simply could not exist the way it does in-game.
We know from Infinite that the lighthouses and cities are not based in contemporaneously concurrent reality. They are instead purgatorial reiterations that are in fact constructed and refined by a highly-advanced sentience as moralistic experiments. They are basically controlled simulations governed by clearly superior technology. Any arguments involving the civil engineering and building materials known in this universe at the apparent time-frames of the games are moot. Rapture and Columbia have never existed in this reality at those historical reference points - or any other. Nor could they still. They are made elsewhere from science and things that allow them to be built there for their intended purpose.
It's explained in the novel that the tunnels you travel through all around the city are composed of a "molecular bonding" of glass and metal to keep out the pressure, but the fact is that even with technology as advanced as Rapture's, they still couldn't hold back the ocean indefinitely. As for other technologies, you also have to suspend disbelief to a point--you the player are expected to believe that Rapture is actually built above a very particular ocean trench, which contains some kind of undiscovered energy/radiation that caused the ADAM sea slugs to mutate in the first place, thus starting the chain reaction of scientific discoveries that would result in Rapture's downfall.
(3:30 In the book the population is 20,000. As to the games? I've seen speculation that varies from that to 7.5 million - if that tells someone something.
i think the location of the city being so deep underwater resonates with me as a gritty metaphor.. its a game you have to live to understand the symbolic structures are there not for science nerds but for psychology geeks.
One of the things he mentioned about I thought was interesting was getting oxygen into rapture. I was a submariner and one of the things that have to be managed is not only the amount of oxygen in the air but the pressure it created. You'd be surprised the kinds of designs had to be implemented because of just 100+ men breathing and having to bring in oxygen. You have to have a way to get rid of the CO2 and other dangerous gases before you think about bringing in oxygen or the pressure inside is too great. Now instead of 100+ people, imagine pressure regulation for 3 million.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Great job using the first reply on google to copy paste a reddit answer on a 5 year comment. If you also remember, Mr. Pedantic, that 50,000 was just the initial minds picked by Ryan to found his glorious empire. The idea was to have a city comparable to Chicago or New York but only the best minds could go. The population of Chicago or New York in the 1950's teetered between 3-5 million. Rapture was completed in 1951 and was *capable* of holding 3 million+ even if it only sustained 50000. It all fell apart before it could get rolling.
I've got the dream to build a city underwater that's why I wanted to study Civil Enginner, so this video gives me an idea to what should I consider. It sounds impossible but maybe one day I could make my dream come true even if it is at a smaller scale I would be satisfied
Not gonna lie, i didn't remember this comment so that means i haven't started yet, but i'm still studying civil engineer and with the knowledge i've acquired i can safely tell you that my dream is a complete challenge (there's just A LOT to think about like the video said), but my propose here is build something not too deep so it could be "easier" and the purpose i want to give to it is that in case the whole sea levels rises more, we're gonna need to improve our buildings to water i think maybe we could even survive extreme heat if we live underwater but nowadays i think the technology and science is still in very early steps, we also need to find better materials that can handle corrosion and also think about how we could provide the city with the basic needs, thank you for remember me my dream, i'm gonna be working, exploring and thinking about it from now on. @@brendenlee9043
@@brendenlee9043hahah just look at the salary.. either you got a really rare type of silver tongue that could convince upper class folks or the "easiest" you need to be some arab trillionaire prince yourself for that
“It has been brought to my attention that some citizens have discovered ways to... "hack" the vending machines. I should not need to remind each and every citizen of Rapture that free enterprise is the foundation upon which our society has been established. Parasites will be punished”. - Andrew Ryan
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In the book "Bioshock Rapture" they try to explain how they build it and it sounds quiet logical but my english isnt good enough to explain it here. But if you want to check it out do so ^^" (In the book there are buildings wich "scratch the waves" and Rapture isnt as deep in the ocean as I thought while playing the game (aroud 200m). They use somekind of mirrors to bring "natural light" into rapture. They didnt build rapture under water but sink the buildings after shipping them there.)
In the book "Bioshock Rapture" they try to explain how they build it and it sounds quiet logical but my english isnt good enough to explain it here. But if you want to check it out do so ^^" (In the book there are buildings wich "scratch the waves" and Rapture isnt as deep in the ocean as I thought while playing the game (aroud 200m). They use somekind of mirrors to bring "natural light" into rapture. They didnt build rapture under water but sink the buildings after shipping them there.)
4 years later. Still face palming on the inaccuracy with the numbers of both the depth and population of Rapture with this one. Also the wrong pronunciation of Hephaestus didn't help.
With this much quality within your content, its really surprising that there is barely much public attention that is being sought. Like, that has gotta be unbelievable.
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Setting aside the supposed fantastical properties of Ryanium, it would really be smarter to construct rapture as a series of spheres rather than making underwater skyscrapers to circumvent pressure as much as possible, would it not? Also the population of rapture is at most 25k iirc
I have a hard time believing that millions could go there without some kind of suspicion. Also in Bioshock 1 & 2 you see things that don’t happen thousands of meters under the ocean: Bioshock 2 has a Great White Shark and kelp, you don’t find those 1 mile underwater, unless Rapture as a whole moved up to the surface in between Bioshock 1 & 2
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes I guess you could say that we know less about the depths of the oceans than the surface of Mars and that Great Whites might sometimes go to those depths. Or you could say it's a Greenland Shark. Or you could say that Rapture was planned to be built that deep, but they changed their minds and built it higher.
@@MrAskmannen I’m curious if the modules making up Rapture can be moved. The Persephone prison facility in Bioshock 2 could be detached and dropped, which makes one wonder if other buildings or modules that make up Rapture could be raised or lowered beneath the ocean.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes sinking is easy, but raising stuff back up would be nearly impossible. I know Elizabeth got that columbia floating device in buried at sea, but as far as i know that's the only time it's ever been used in rapture. Also, each part of rapture isnt self sustaining, they all need to be connected to hepheastus to get electicity, and to arcadia to get oxygen
@@MrAskmannen Elizabeth in Burial at Sea went to Columbia to steal the Lutece Particles, or antigravity particles, to raise that part but yes, maybe Rapture had varied depths or just wasn’t as super deep as some thought? Guess the game doesn’t always say
Great video, love how you explore the question of "Could Rapture actually exist?" I actually feel like there's too much of it for one video, and would love to see you go even further into the science and psychology of Rapture in additional videos (science of the sea slugs and ADAM, for example, or the Big Daddies and Little Sisters, along with how Andrew Ryan's own philosophy brought the city crashing down).
Rapture city is amazing 😉 and he forgot to mention Minerva’s den Rapture Super computer responsible for pumping air through the city and control every door 🚪 and cámaras 🎥
Regardless of what the lore might say. The length of travel time down to rapture and the fact that you can see out of the windows at all means it really isn't that deep.
Best Kinda Mess a little but doesn’t bothers me. Though with a small population and cut off from the outside world’s influences. The art could’ve just been on a stalemate or altered version. If I remember correctly, the people suffer from isolation and Andrew hired a psychologist/psychiatrist. Which is where the problems started.
But Rapture was founded in 1946 and its inhabitants have never seen the rest of the world since. With a small population, it makes sense that its aesthetics have not mutated much.
rapture would not have 3 million people. Most big cities today don't have 3 million people only los angeles or new york come close. and if this is set in 1940-50's then the population would extremely less.
GamingEchelon Chicago has EXACTLY 3 million people.... yea you sound dumb just stfu what city do you know has an exact number of millions in it? Stop trying to be smart
im gonna replay the game this weekend after watching this. in my first playthrough i actually forgot about the whole upgrade mechanic (not the weapon one), so i really should replay it.
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Have you seen Game Theory's video on Rapture? He says it's actually possible and was possible back then, he did loads of research on where it could be done and what materials used for the walls and everything as well as how they could get resources such as geothermal resources etc.
Creepopolous this is true however engineers and later on the big dadies were in charge of upkeep in both games are seen keeping rapture air tight until the events of the rapture civil war the city was well maintained
Shion Sonozaki Yeah, but they're just keeping it water tight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the most maintenance they do outside is just fixing things like neon lights. The stark angles and statues scattered around Rapture would eventually erode away, and I'm sure that there are more stable shapes than what you see in Rapture.
3 years later, and I'm just finding this now - but, to put the facts straight, Rapture is only 200 meters below the surface, and the population of Rapture varies between 20,000 - 50,000. And destruction of the city wouldn't be a problem ; Big Daddies ( humans grafted into massive diving suits, practically immune to the pressure ) are constantly repairing the city.
the lighthouse is located at these coordinates, the real city is quite a distance away, as the bathysphere takes a while to get close to the city once it has descended the lighthouse station.
According to the book, Raptures population is only 15 thousand while the viral game for Bioshock 2 'There's something in the sea' indicates it's as high as 500 thousand. The latter I'm more inclined to believe.
What I want to know is if you could build a small theme-park sized rapture in a deep lake or into the sea off the coast (not the ocean floor). Could someone build a Rapture attraction that was submerged to simulate the feel of being under the sea?
It would be a dream come true. It could have a theater, restaurants, a mall... It should have parts that are tidied up like Rapture in its prime, but the best parts would be furnished to intentionally look decrepit and post-Rapture war.
Ha-fesh-less? Wow you butchered the name "Hephaestus." That's just a nit-pick though. This is a really great video, thanks for doing all the research and sharing it with us.
If you notice the game actually takes in consideration the reality of an underwater city. Obviously it's Science Fiction but if you pay attention to how Rapture was before the Civil War in 58'. Then you'd know that accidents happened all the time. Constant repairs were needed for pressure leaks. Things just didn't work like they should have. Big Daddy's were made to keep up the constant repairs but it was never enough. Even after the fall of Rapture you see the city falling apart. Just naturally.
Raptures population was more like 50’000 not 3 million. The city was under constant repair (it was why the big daddy’s were created in the first place so they could repair the city). It had its own in built food and Oxygen system (which was partially helped by geothermal energy).
Much good info except for the water temperatures you mention, being below zero Celsius. Water is quirky stuff, and at its greatest density is a few degrees above freezing...extreme pressures of the deep, notwithstanding.
It was not impossible to build Rapture at the bottom of the sea. It was impossible to build it anywhere else.
Would've lived at Rapture.... that is before drug abuse taking place all over
Lasspeng
"When Picasso became bored of painting people, he started representing them as cubes and other abstract forms. The world called him a genius! I've spent my entire surgical career creating the same tired shapes, over and over again: the upturned nose, the cleft chin, the ample bosom. Wouldn't it be wonderful if I could do with a knife what that old Spaniard did with a brush?"
And that's how a crazy is born.
Afrodite walking teh hall, shivering Staimen, Staimen....
Rocket epic comeback
Andrew Ryan Spot on haha
The city dose have leakes, and the big Daddies are always repairing them, also there was a part in the first bioshock, with an audio tape, stating the if the water wasn't heated, the pipes would bust with frozen water.
Can we make Big daddies? :0
@@kalash9467 um I don’t m ow if you know how they are made but it’s large diving suits obviously but then humans are taken and their skin is grafted to fit on the lining of the suit of the big daddy and along with that the person before this undergoes a voice box modifier installing a voice box into your vocal cords along with being peppered with pheromones for the little sisters so um no probably not
@Casswury Sinking? So eventually the city will fall or Dissappear.?
@Casswury Not really sinking on its own. Rapture was stable enough to not sink on the platform it was seated on. The genuine problem was that Sofia Lamb, in response to Subject Delta and Eleanor's imminent escape and destruction of her idea of utopia, went off her nut and started setting explosives all over the Persephone area. that combined with the damages caused by Sofia's attempts to kill Subject Delta, the Big Sisters butchering the place in an attempt to kill him (As early as the first chapter, a Big Sister slices the viewing glass apart in a room, flooding various areas of Rapture in an attempt to kill Delta. Too bad for her, Subject Delta's diving suit works.), and when Sofia set off the bombs on the lifeboat Delta and Eleanor in an attempt to kill them, it did enough damage to crush and sink that area of Rapture into an ocean trench.
Still, though, the materials used by Rapture are not the most durable (Aluminum in place of steel, for example), leading to it eventually being crushed by the weight of the ocean regardless.
Bouncing off that I also remember that in a hidden space u can find a tape that talks about the pipes and that it is almost impossible to start fixing it when it starts leaking so ye the city isn’t perfect
Dammit. i took civil engineering for nothing
😂
Are you serious if so can was the degree worth it?
@@mariocardenas239 no
Well just don't forget that it is just option if you did build a under water city it doesn't mean that it would end up like what he says. 😇
same :c
The coordinates are for only the lighthouse, the entrance to the city. The city itself is just within it's radius.
It would be within a few miles of the lighthouse, so it doesn't make much of a difference.
@@guncrafter2009damn
I'd read the book for more insight, according to it there were only around 50,000 people at the height of rapture and even then it was getting cramped
That makes sense. Rapture was more of a false city made to look as grand as New York. More like a failed theme park.
Thank you that’s what I was thinking too 3mil is WAY too many people
Regardless of weather it's possible or not, Bioshock's Rapture is the #1 fictional location I would visit.
Befire everyone went insane, or after?
@@damianvelez3396 take a wild guess.
@@theimperviousfirecracker7934 after?
(Like me because I am insane)
The psychological issues due to isolation and lack of sun are why Sofia Lamb was brought to Rapture. Not that it did much good.
rjd1922 well technically the reason everyone went crazy was because of the Adam drug people weren’t able to host large amount of Adam and they got addicted to it and they went crazy
@@ohhdahveed3561 Which is pretty funny become some people use rapture as an argument against libertarian civilizations when the in game reason for raptures failure is literal magic
@fiddle I would have to look further into the story to see how true this is but the interesting thing is that a lot of the problems of rapture could have been solved by automation which would lead me to believe that if enough time would have passed without a disaster they would have been fine.
@fiddle If not for Fontaine violating the principles of objectivism for his own gain, ADAM would not have become so widely used and the Civil War would not have happened, same goes for Ryan turning against his beliefs at the end of such war.
@@InitialPC But that’s the problem with a society being “too free” eventually some opportunists will come in and disrupt it and it falls apart. Granted this is arguably also possible in a totalitarian society as well, but the whole free aspect makes it appealing as a target for an opportunist
The water leaks, shown at many points in the game must have flooded the city in seconds. I cannot imagine the size of pumps that would be needed to maintain oxygen pressure.
That’s why we will make big daddies to do repairs.
"A man build, A parasite asks where's my share?"
Andrew Ryan Says "You are never too late to answer that question
I like this quote because both socialists and capitalists would agree with this, they'll just disagree on who the parasite is.
A man chooses, a slave obeys
hefeshles?
I was gonna comment the same thing XD
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A shallow city with wide and not tall buildings would work better, maybe even have half of the taller buildings stick out of the oceans. Oxygen would not be a problem, simply pump the air through connections from building to building, and sunlight could come in to parts of the buildings and even redirected to the darker locations underwater with fiber optics. Rust would be a problem and pressure and weather, but those could be overcome. Food and waste would be very large problems, would likely need to ship those in and out and produce only a little food in the city.
Or screw it all and go with star gate atlantas method of a dome, they distribute better than arches and could probably be better maintained and help maintain natural cycle through electric light/light strips on ceilings. ... Would still be rather enormous cost but probably much easier focus maintenance
True, but the whole point was that the city was supposed to be a secret from the rest of the world. Out of sight, out of mind.
out of prasites :-)
That and O2 levels in the water isn't constant with depth so corrosion varies greatly.
"Hepheschluss"
Bless you?
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You should do a video on Battlefield 1. "What if WWI actually happened"
Nice
In what context?
I think it was more of a joke, at least I hope it was lol
Yes this is a joke. What are the chances of a World War ever actually happening really? It's just such craziness
@@PersonPlaceThing1 thank god a world war never happened!
Damn, screw reality :/
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So lets ignore the fact they have managed science based advances that would be impossible. Stands to reason if they manage to make things like plasmids and adam then it stands to reason they could manage it
No, not really. There's no evidence in the game that Rapture's materials science or structural engineering was in any way superior to that of the 1940s, or today. They had advanced robotics and genetic science, but without impossibly strong materials or some as-yet-unheard-of architectural method for managing crushing ocean pressures, Rapture's soaring skyline simply could not exist the way it does in-game.
We know from Infinite that the lighthouses and cities are not based in contemporaneously concurrent reality. They are instead purgatorial reiterations that are in fact constructed and refined by a highly-advanced sentience as moralistic experiments. They are basically controlled simulations governed by clearly superior technology. Any arguments involving the civil engineering and building materials known in this universe at the apparent time-frames of the games are moot. Rapture and Columbia have never existed in this reality at those historical reference points - or any other. Nor could they still. They are made elsewhere from science and things that allow them to be built there for their intended purpose.
It's explained in the novel that the tunnels you travel through all around the city are composed of a "molecular bonding" of glass and metal to keep out the pressure, but the fact is that even with technology as advanced as Rapture's, they still couldn't hold back the ocean indefinitely.
As for other technologies, you also have to suspend disbelief to a point--you the player are expected to believe that Rapture is actually built above a very particular ocean trench, which contains some kind of undiscovered energy/radiation that caused the ADAM sea slugs to mutate in the first place, thus starting the chain reaction of scientific discoveries that would result in Rapture's downfall.
Adam and plasmids only exist because of what they found were rapture was, and for all the other advancements they really only exist because of Adam
"Hepheshalus" I'm out...
Let's be fair, that's a really difficult word to say. I'm an engineer, not a linguist.
SpacePak It's three syllables fam, "ha-fest-us".
@@MTR702 it’s the name of the Greek God.
@@MTR702 It's ha-fest-us, as in the Greek God of Fire and the Forge.
'Exasturbated' was the one that got me XD
Population 3 million ? What game did you play???
Pablo D'Angelo he's talking before
@@pie197 peak rapture had 100 000 ppl living in it at best
@@ultra7021 nope ; 50k at MOST
Kawaii Narwhal There was at least 6
@@mw9688 6 what lmfao. 60k??
(3:30 In the book the population is 20,000. As to the games? I've seen speculation that varies from that to 7.5 million - if that tells someone something.
i think the location of the city being so deep underwater resonates with me as a gritty metaphor.. its a game you have to live to understand the symbolic structures are there not for science nerds but for psychology geeks.
One of the things he mentioned about I thought was interesting was getting oxygen into rapture. I was a submariner and one of the things that have to be managed is not only the amount of oxygen in the air but the pressure it created. You'd be surprised the kinds of designs had to be implemented because of just 100+ men breathing and having to bring in oxygen. You have to have a way to get rid of the CO2 and other dangerous gases before you think about bringing in oxygen or the pressure inside is too great. Now instead of 100+ people, imagine pressure regulation for 3 million.
The game stated it was only around 50,000 as a generous upper estimate.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Great job using the first reply on google to copy paste a reddit answer on a 5 year comment. If you also remember, Mr. Pedantic, that 50,000 was just the initial minds picked by Ryan to found his glorious empire. The idea was to have a city comparable to Chicago or New York but only the best minds could go. The population of Chicago or New York in the 1950's teetered between 3-5 million. Rapture was completed in 1951 and was *capable* of holding 3 million+ even if it only sustained 50000. It all fell apart before it could get rolling.
2:21 Did he say hefeshalis?
would you kindly?
Spoiler alert HUR DUR
It's weird Bioshock 4 is actually in production right now
population of rapture: Splicers
I've got the dream to build a city underwater that's why I wanted to study Civil Enginner, so this video gives me an idea to what should I consider.
It sounds impossible but maybe one day I could make my dream come true even if it is at a smaller scale I would be satisfied
How's your dream going?
Not gonna lie, i didn't remember this comment so that means i haven't started yet, but i'm still studying civil engineer and with the knowledge i've acquired i can safely tell you that my dream is a complete challenge (there's just A LOT to think about like the video said), but my propose here is build something not too deep so it could be "easier" and the purpose i want to give to it is that in case the whole sea levels rises more, we're gonna need to improve our buildings to water i think maybe we could even survive extreme heat if we live underwater but nowadays i think the technology and science is still in very early steps, we also need to find better materials that can handle corrosion and also think about how we could provide the city with the basic needs, thank you for remember me my dream, i'm gonna be working, exploring and thinking about it from now on. @@brendenlee9043
@@brendenlee9043he woke up
@@brendenlee9043hahah just look at the salary.. either you got a really rare type of silver tongue that could convince upper class folks or the "easiest" you need to be some arab trillionaire prince yourself for that
It was not impossible to build Rapture underneath the ocean. It was impossible to build it anywhere else
something about some of Andrew Ryan's best quotes that I just find so amazing
“It has been brought to my attention that some citizens have discovered ways to... "hack" the vending machines. I should not need to remind each and every citizen of Rapture that free enterprise is the foundation upon which our society has been established. Parasites will be punished”. - Andrew Ryan
That's hypocritical lol
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In the book "Bioshock Rapture" they try to explain how they build it and it sounds quiet logical but my english isnt good enough to explain it here.
But if you want to check it out do so ^^"
(In the book there are buildings wich "scratch the waves" and Rapture isnt as deep in the ocean as I thought while playing the game (aroud 200m).
They use somekind of mirrors to bring "natural light" into rapture.
They didnt build rapture under water but sink the buildings after shipping them there.)
In the book "Bioshock Rapture" they try to explain how they build it and it sounds quiet logical but my english isnt good enough to explain it here.
But if you want to check it out do so ^^"
(In the book there are buildings wich "scratch the waves" and Rapture isnt as deep in the ocean as I thought while playing the game (aroud 200m).
They use somekind of mirrors to bring "natural light" into rapture.
They didnt build rapture under water but sink the buildings after shipping them there.)
+InZaneGamer wasnt it something about Underwater vulcanos or something?
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SpacePak I
Even if some light made it through, it would still be depressing as hell.
I would love for this to happen an underwater city just amazing i love bioshock especially bioshock 2
So pressurize the air inside like they do on existing submarines. This is extremely obvious.
rapture's population capacity is 20,000 nowhere near 3 million
The Bioshock book actually goes over some of these issues and questions
4 years later. Still face palming on the inaccuracy with the numbers of both the depth and population of Rapture with this one. Also the wrong pronunciation of Hephaestus didn't help.
With this much quality within your content, its really surprising that there is barely much public attention that is being sought. Like, that has gotta be unbelievable.
I get offers from larger channels (i.e Top Trending, ShoddyCast, HaloFollower) but the deals are usually very exclusive and I don't have time to make videos for them and videos for you guys so I usually pick you guys. That's why I've stayed so independent.
The medium size channels don't think I have enough subscribers to be in their "click" or colab and the big channels was to bring me into their channel. So I'm between a rock and a hard place.
Setting aside the supposed fantastical properties of Ryanium, it would really be smarter to construct rapture as a series of spheres rather than making underwater skyscrapers to circumvent pressure as much as possible, would it not?
Also the population of rapture is at most 25k iirc
I have a hard time believing that millions could go there without some kind of suspicion. Also in Bioshock 1 & 2 you see things that don’t happen thousands of meters under the ocean: Bioshock 2 has a Great White Shark and kelp, you don’t find those 1 mile underwater, unless Rapture as a whole moved up to the surface in between Bioshock 1 & 2
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes I guess you could say that we know less about the depths of the oceans than the surface of Mars and that Great Whites might sometimes go to those depths. Or you could say it's a Greenland Shark.
Or you could say that Rapture was planned to be built that deep, but they changed their minds and built it higher.
@@MrAskmannen I’m curious if the modules making up Rapture can be moved. The Persephone prison facility in Bioshock 2 could be detached and dropped, which makes one wonder if other buildings or modules that make up Rapture could be raised or lowered beneath the ocean.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes sinking is easy, but raising stuff back up would be nearly impossible. I know Elizabeth got that columbia floating device in buried at sea, but as far as i know that's the only time it's ever been used in rapture.
Also, each part of rapture isnt self sustaining, they all need to be connected to hepheastus to get electicity, and to arcadia to get oxygen
@@MrAskmannen Elizabeth in Burial at Sea went to Columbia to steal the Lutece Particles, or antigravity particles, to raise that part but yes, maybe Rapture had varied depths or just wasn’t as super deep as some thought? Guess the game doesn’t always say
Great video, love how you explore the question of "Could Rapture actually exist?"
I actually feel like there's too much of it for one video, and would love to see you go even further into the science and psychology of Rapture in additional videos (science of the sea slugs and ADAM, for example, or the Big Daddies and Little Sisters, along with how Andrew Ryan's own philosophy brought the city crashing down).
Rapture city is amazing 😉 and he forgot to mention Minerva’s den Rapture Super computer responsible for pumping air through the city and control every door 🚪 and cámaras 🎥
Regardless of what the lore might say. The length of travel time down to rapture and the fact that you can see out of the windows at all means it really isn't that deep.
No, you wont destroy my dream of building Rapture. I cant hear youuuu
Does it bother anyone else that the game is set in 1960 but the atmosphere and art is clearly 1940s based
Best Kinda Mess a little but doesn’t bothers me. Though with a small population and cut off from the outside world’s influences. The art could’ve just been on a stalemate or altered version. If I remember correctly, the people suffer from isolation and Andrew hired a psychologist/psychiatrist. Which is where the problems started.
But Rapture was founded in 1946 and its inhabitants have never seen the rest of the world since. With a small population, it makes sense that its aesthetics have not mutated much.
@@MalaysianChopsticks nah the Adam dependency is what drove people crazy, the psychologist was brought in as a precaution
rapture would not have 3 million people. Most big cities today don't have 3 million people only los angeles or new york come close. and if this is set in 1940-50's then the population would extremely less.
Chicago has exactly 3 million people
GamingEchelon Chicago has EXACTLY 3 million people.... yea you sound dumb just stfu what city do you know has an exact number of millions in it? Stop trying to be smart
Xpert Player Keyboard warrior ass nigga 😂. Who pissed in your Cheerios.
GamingEchelon I was correcting you because your trying to be smart but your giving wrong info
Xpert Player Trying to be smart 😂? You just took the words too seriously, you're just trying to be important.
Would you kindly make another video about Rapture? :D
I see what you did there "/
Rapture had an entire computer dedicated on maintenance on rapture called The thinker.
yes more bioshock videos!
They said around 39,000 people
“Hafishless”
Came for the small socks, stayed for the A+ content. Just earned a sub mate.
Awesome, hope you enjoy your stay!
Jeez what a great video, expected to see way more than 15,000 views. You'll make it though with quality like this
Yeah I hope so. It's a grind at times!
im gonna replay the game this weekend after watching this. in my first playthrough i actually forgot about the whole upgrade mechanic (not the weapon one), so i really should replay it.
Best Video about the Physics of Rapture yet!
Please one for Columbia!
great video. nice animations, nice explanation.
Thanks!
Repairs are maintained to keep the Golden Gate Bridge up so how would it be a problem to keep repairs for a tower under water
I think god should let this happen.
you deserve way more subs!!
Thanks for the kind comment!
This video was incredible! I really enjoyed it and will definitely subscribe!
A channel with a great future.
Make a video about the floating city of Columbia from Bioshock: Infinite now! :D
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Ow YISSS! Can't wait for it! Great video btw. :) I love the bioshock series. I hope they will release another one soon.
If you read the book, it explains on some of the technological advance that were made with Ryan industries to make rapture possible
if it existed I would go there even knowing what would happen
Mike I saw you on ShoddyCast not too long ago! Well deserved man! I don't know if you remember me but you did some thumbnail and profile picture work for me when I did UA-cam about 2 or 3 years ago! I just wanted to say I really appreciate the quality content and I can't wait for the future!
I remember man!
63° 2' N, 29° 55' W the coordinates of rapture...now someone needs to record them sea-diving at the coords
KillingSpree2017 lol
Have you seen Game Theory's video on Rapture? He says it's actually possible and was possible back then, he did loads of research on where it could be done and what materials used for the walls and everything as well as how they could get resources such as geothermal resources etc.
While it was theoretically feasible, he also said that the geometry and material used in building the city would make them wear out quickly.
Creepopolous this is true however engineers and later on the big dadies were in charge of upkeep in both games are seen keeping rapture air tight until the events of the rapture civil war the city was well maintained
Shion Sonozaki Yeah, but they're just keeping it water tight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the most maintenance they do outside is just fixing things like neon lights. The stark angles and statues scattered around Rapture would eventually erode away, and I'm sure that there are more stable shapes than what you see in Rapture.
3 years later, and I'm just finding this now - but, to put the facts straight, Rapture is only 200 meters below the surface, and the population of Rapture varies between 20,000 - 50,000. And destruction of the city wouldn't be a problem ; Big Daddies ( humans grafted into massive diving suits, practically immune to the pressure ) are constantly repairing the city.
I think it would work if you built a bunch of underwater biodomes in Lake Michigan.
You have really good videos. You deserve a lot more views. Watch this channel people!
Thanks man!
the lighthouse is located at these coordinates, the real city is quite a distance away, as the bathysphere takes a while to get close to the city once it has descended the lighthouse station.
Yes please! That was great and thanks for telling me about the study!
awesome video man
According to the book, Raptures population is only 15 thousand while the viral game for Bioshock 2 'There's something in the sea' indicates it's as high as 500 thousand. The latter I'm more inclined to believe.
Awnser: yes, but would be a nightmare to build and maintain
defiantly would love to see another video on bioshock maybe after a few o these some on bio infinite ;)
Cool thanks for the feedback
+SpacePak by Mike Ridolfi you deserve more subs you put some work and time into your vids
This video was awesome!
Remember when you go into the lighthouse in the beginning and you go int the submarine that takes you to rapture
that voice crack around 4 minutes hahaha. Great video though!
What I want to know is if you could build a small theme-park sized rapture in a deep lake or into the sea off the coast (not the ocean floor). Could someone build a Rapture attraction that was submerged to simulate the feel of being under the sea?
Yes that would be pretty easy and I would love to visit it
It would be a dream come true. It could have a theater, restaurants, a mall... It should have parts that are tidied up like Rapture in its prime, but the best parts would be furnished to intentionally look decrepit and post-Rapture war.
Dorked out on this wholeheartedly; awesome video
The pressure in the city wouldn't kill you.
Easier solution, we build it on land, then deliver it to its proper coordinates.
If you liked this, check out the new episode on Columbia! ua-cam.com/video/pbn_TS2W2vw/v-deo.html
It was not impossible to build Rapture at the bottom of the sea. It was impossible to build it anywhere else.
i know I'm kind of randomly asking but does anybody know of a good website to watch newly released series online ?
@Kalel Jon I watch on FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
@Mohamed Anthony Yup, I've been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D
@Mohamed Anthony thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I really appreciate it !
Ha-fesh-less? Wow you butchered the name "Hephaestus."
That's just a nit-pick though. This is a really great video, thanks for doing all the research and sharing it with us.
If you notice the game actually takes in consideration the reality of an underwater city. Obviously it's Science Fiction but if you pay attention to how Rapture was before the Civil War in 58'. Then you'd know that accidents happened all the time. Constant repairs were needed for pressure leaks. Things just didn't work like they should have. Big Daddy's were made to keep up the constant repairs but it was never enough. Even after the fall of Rapture you see the city falling apart. Just naturally.
I feel that No Mans Sky could provide you with a good amount of video ideas. That or Titanfall 2. Awesome video Mike and keep up the great work!
Yeah I have some ideas for No Mans Sky. Still brainstorming for Titanfall 2
+SpacePak by Mike Ridolfi I wish I could help. I'll think of some video ideas and I'll let you know.
really cool video, props
For those of you wondering why I pronounced Hephaestus so "weird", check out this video...
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Man your videos are just so good 😎
Thanks man! I appreciate it.
Its in the mid atlantic between new york and the coast of portugal
I would love to see another video on rapture!
2:22 Hefeshlus? tehehe good video though, very informative.
Really interesting and thought provoking video.
My dude likes to lift his head then restart.
3 million residents in a city is plenty of people to avoid being depressed out of isolaton. much smaller civilizations have thrived for much longer.
Raptures population was more like 50’000 not 3 million.
The city was under constant repair (it was why the big daddy’s were created in the first place so they could repair the city).
It had its own in built food and Oxygen system (which was partially helped by geothermal energy).
What's the difference between the bid daddy with all the eyes and the diver suit looking one
What a party pooper
Much good info except for the water temperatures you mention, being below zero Celsius. Water is quirky stuff, and at its greatest density is a few degrees above freezing...extreme pressures of the deep, notwithstanding.
"Raptures population let's say 3 million"
Holy shit dude really? Raptures population was 50,000.
Yeah, rapture population was never above 50,000. I think people forget how many people 50000 is, especially in a relatively small area like rapture.
Excellent work ...
Thanks :D