I too am very fond of the outboards from the 1950s. I like to bring them back to life and get them back on the water. Thank you and thanks for watching!
Thank you. This is a pretty sharp original survivor. As a runner, it really is excellent. It turned out great. This motor seems that it was taken care of during its life. When I got it, there were a few questionable things done, but it seems nothing was done that caused any enduring problems. It's a wonderful motor. Definitely a keeper in my collection. Thanks for watching!
Yup, the 58s are some of my favorites for styling. I like both the Johnson and Evinrude styling very well for 1958. They're excellent motors and they look good too. Thanks for watching!
Thank you. This is a great running motor. The remote steering mod in this boat made a great little boat out of a terrible one. This is one of the least comfortable and worst handling boats I have ever run from a tiller. From the center steering deck it is a whole different world. Very comfortable and handles beautifully for a 12 foot tinny. Thanks for watching!
Nice! Johbson CD-12 is a great little fishing motor. They're fun to work on and they run so nicely. Be sure to run that one on 16:1 when you get it back on the water. There are no roller bearings in the powerhead, so they need the oil. Thanks for watching and good luck with your motor!
Sad Tomahawk was canceled this year and I can’t go to Constantine. I would have loved to picked one of these up. Oh well. At least I can enjoy your videos!
This is a sweet running motor. It is mechanically about as close to perfect as they come. A warm start just takes a bump through compression and its running. Power is smooth all the way from idle through wide open. The lake was about as flat as I have seen it. It was a nice morning on the water. Thanks for watching!
Greetings! I have this same motor that came on another boat. The cowling, name plate, etc. are somewhat beat up. Your looks pristine. Any advice on where restorers go to obtain replacement parts?
@@andysupers5468 Congratulations on your motor. This one is not quite pristine, but it is well above average. Vintageoutboardpaint.com for paint, Discontinueddecals.com is a good source for decals. I think Scott Haugh (find him on AOMCI's FB page) is still making reproduction plastic side medallions. I'm not sure if he makes the plastic front medallions for this motor or not. Also search Ebay for medallions and that stuff if needed. If you have not visited the AOMCI.ORG club website, I recommend that. There is a classified section where you can place a want ad as well. Thanks for watching!
What is your model number? That is the first number before the hyphen on the nameplate. You can probably just Google that number and find out. That's assuming the nameplate is still original, of course. If I had a picture I could probably tell you by looking at it if the paint is still original. Thanks for watching!
When I was a kid we lived on gun lake in Michigan during summer a teen out there had a little 9 ft flipper boat with the same 18 hp evinrude and it would fly.
These 18s will scoot right along. Add a light boat and a light driver and small wetted area, and they'll really go. I bet that 9 footer would go once it was planed off and on its way. 👍 Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 I haven't found one. Desperately looking hard for a nice '58 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp in excellent running and cosmetic condition. Need it for my 12' mahogany plywood runabout. If you ever run across one that's available for sale like this one would you please let me know? I'd really appreciate your help! Thanks, Rex
@@rexstormer897 I'll let you know if I see one come up. I like those too and the '58 is really sweet if it has the plastic medallions on the front like this one has. I like these and the later ones.
It is just done with period appropriate parts and common methods for cable-pulley (tiller rope) steering. I hand built the deck, mounting brackets, steering shaft, mount, and bearings. I made a video going over the build on this channel also. I go into what I used and how I put it together in that video. Thanks for watching!
Beauty!!! I’ve always loved the ‘58 colours! How do you find them in such good shape? Up here in Canada everything seems to have the life ran right out of it
I'm quite fond of the '58s in both Evinrude and Johnson trim. They're not all in that good of shape. I get lucky sometimes. There is a lot of clapped out junk around too. Location has plenty to do with it. Im in Michigan, and I go to meets in Wisconsin and have friends in Minnesota. All fresh water and short seasons help keep the motors nicer than if you're near any salt or have longer seasons. I'm not sire where in Canada you are, but that could make a difference. Thanks for watching!
With a deck, gear, and 3 guys you're pretty well loaded in a 1436 jon boat. Depending on how your weight is distributed, how your motor is propped and the trim setting, you may or may not get the boat on plane with a 9.8. If you get on plane I would expect around 12mph. If not, you may be closer to 6 or 7 mph. So many factors it is hard to guess. Thanks for watching!
I do not have a list of them anywhere that I keep up. I currently have a 1958 Johnson 5.5hp and a 1956 Johnson 10hp for sale. I have not listed either of the. On Craigslist or FB Marketplace yet. I do not ship motors. I am in SE Michigan.
I know, right! The video makes it look worse than it is though. It was already started by the time I got 8" of rope out. The other 10 just kinda followed after it bumped over compression. LOL! 😜 Thanks for watching, Ed!
HELLO JOHNNY WATCHED THIS ONCE BEFORE SO HAVE A QUESTION AS I HAVE ONE. I ALSO HAVE A 1959 18 HP AS YOU KNOW. JUST CRANKED THE 1959 OVER TO TAKE A COMPRRESSION. BOTH CYLINDER HAVE 80 PSI. THE 1958 IS A PULL START ONLY GOT 50 PSI IS THAT NORMAL FOR A PULL START MOTOR. I DID PUT OIL IN THE CYLINDERS. BEFOR THE OIL I ONLY GOT 30 PSI EACH CYLINDER.
For a healthy 18 the compression is usually between 105 and 130 psi. Any of my 18s will show over 100psi using the pull rope. Make sure you pull the rope very firmly and it takes about 4 or 5 pulls to get the compression number to level off. 80 is pretty low for an 18 and it will not run on 30psi or even 50. On that motor you may want to check for loose head bolts or a bad head gasket.
GOTCHA THANK YOU ON ALL POINTS. THE 58 I FIGUERED WAS TO LOW BUT ITS MY SPARE PARTS MOTOR. WILL DO IT OVER THE WINTER. THE 59 ( MY TYPO ERROR )WITH THE STARTER MOTOR READ 90 ( NOT 80 ) ON BOTH CYLINDERS, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH TO PUT ON MY 14 FOOT SPEED BOAT. PS NOT INTO SPEED JUST RELIABILITY
@@ugotit33x The 59 will run at 90psi just fine if the two cylinders are even. It may come up after running it for a while. You may want to decarbonize it with Power Tune or Engine Tuner and you may have rings sticking. It is a good product and does what it does very well. It is certainly worth a try and that motor will work fine on your boat. The older 15s run great at 90psi. The 18s are very much the same engine with a larger bore.
THANK YOU I ACCTUALLY DOWN LOAD ALL THE REBUILD VIDS YOU DID THEY ARE GREAT. I BOUGHT A CLYMERS MANUAL 1.5 -125 HP 1956-1972 EVINRUDE/JOHNSON BOOK. IT WILL HELP ME. THE 50 COMPRESSION ENGINE WILL NEW RINGS BRING UP COMPRESSION DID. YOU DO A VID ON THAT OR DID I MISS IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND KNOWLEDGE. I LIVE ON PRIMCE EDWARD ISLAND CANADA ALL THE OLD OUT BOARD MECHANICS ARE GONE. STAY SAFE.
@@ugotit33x Thank you. I'm glad you find the tune up videos helpful. It depends on the reason the low compression engine has low compression. It may just need a head gasket. It may need to be decarbonized. It may have internal damage and need a rebore and new OS pistons and rings. Without looking into it, there is really no way to know. Sometimes a light honing to break the glaze and a re-break in will do it. It just depends on condition and cause.
Yes, they certainly do. These oldies run beautifully as long as they're mechanically solid and get a good tune up. It becomes more of an issue of being willing to put the time and effort into these. The parts are still available, although they get to be less available all the time. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thank you, Sr. We, sometimes get so obssesed with getting the newest, shinny objects that we forget that greatness was also left behind and is more reacheable and your channel is one of those that helps other like me to remember that.
Oh Man! Thanks for the guidance! I also have a 50 hp Evinrude Fasttwin and a great 1958 Johnson 3hp that I love for small boating.
@@andysupers5468 You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I love vintage motors from the 1950s. Thanks for bringing them back to life and posting your videos.
I too am very fond of the outboards from the 1950s. I like to bring them back to life and get them back on the water. Thank you and thanks for watching!
Beautiful motor and it runs as good as it looks!
Thank you. This is a pretty sharp original survivor. As a runner, it really is excellent. It turned out great. This motor seems that it was taken care of during its life. When I got it, there were a few questionable things done, but it seems nothing was done that caused any enduring problems. It's a wonderful motor. Definitely a keeper in my collection. Thanks for watching!
Gotta love those 58's. Good job!
Yup, the 58s are some of my favorites for styling. I like both the Johnson and Evinrude styling very well for 1958. They're excellent motors and they look good too. Thanks for watching!
Great runner! Love the steering addon.
Thank you. This is a great running motor. The remote steering mod in this boat made a great little boat out of a terrible one. This is one of the least comfortable and worst handling boats I have ever run from a tiller. From the center steering deck it is a whole different world. Very comfortable and handles beautifully for a 12 foot tinny. Thanks for watching!
Love the look of these old outboards...
You bet! The classic styling is very cool. Thanks for watching!
That is beautiful motor
Thank you. This is one of my nice looking ones. It looks and runs great. Thanks for watching!
I have a 1955 Johnson Seahorse 5.5 hp outboard I’ll be working on this fall. I love these old engines.
Nice! Johbson CD-12 is a great little fishing motor. They're fun to work on and they run so nicely. Be sure to run that one on 16:1 when you get it back on the water. There are no roller bearings in the powerhead, so they need the oil. Thanks for watching and good luck with your motor!
Sad Tomahawk was canceled this year and I can’t go to Constantine. I would have loved to picked one of these up. Oh well. At least I can enjoy your videos!
Yes, its a major bummer that Tomahawk was canceled this year. I'll do my best to keep videos coming. Thanks for watching!
Nice runing motor the lake is vary blue!
Thanks Marcus. The lake was nice, clear and calm that morning. Perfect weather for boating. Thanks for watching!
Impressive, that thing is smooth and the water looked like glass
This is a sweet running motor. It is mechanically about as close to perfect as they come. A warm start just takes a bump through compression and its running. Power is smooth all the way from idle through wide open. The lake was about as flat as I have seen it. It was a nice morning on the water. Thanks for watching!
Wow she’s a beauty
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Greetings!
I have this same motor that came on another boat. The cowling, name plate, etc. are somewhat beat up. Your looks pristine. Any advice on where restorers go to obtain replacement parts?
@@andysupers5468 Congratulations on your motor. This one is not quite pristine, but it is well above average. Vintageoutboardpaint.com for paint, Discontinueddecals.com is a good source for decals. I think Scott Haugh (find him on AOMCI's FB page) is still making reproduction plastic side medallions. I'm not sure if he makes the plastic front medallions for this motor or not. Also search Ebay for medallions and that stuff if needed. If you have not visited the AOMCI.ORG club website, I recommend that. There is a classified section where you can place a want ad as well. Thanks for watching!
Do you still have it? Lovely motor!
Yes, I still have this one. It's a keeper for sure. One of the nicest motors in my collection in my favorite size. Thank you and thanks for watching!
Really like the channel, enjoy the content m8
Thank you. It's good to hear when someone enjoys the channel. Thanks for watching!
ME TO MINE NOT SO PRETTY SOMEONE PAINTED IT FLAT BLACK AND CUT A HOLE IN THE COVER ? TIMING ?
I have a evenrude lightwin 3hp. I was wondering how to date it. It has a code on the serial plate, but I don’t know how to date it off that. Thanks
What is your model number? That is the first number before the hyphen on the nameplate. You can probably just Google that number and find out. That's assuming the nameplate is still original, of course. If I had a picture I could probably tell you by looking at it if the paint is still original. Thanks for watching!
Old JohnnyRude the model number is 3038, and the serial number is B 9679
When I was a kid we lived on gun lake in Michigan during summer a teen out there had a little 9 ft flipper boat with the same 18 hp evinrude and it would fly.
These 18s will scoot right along. Add a light boat and a light driver and small wetted area, and they'll really go. I bet that 9 footer would go once it was planed off and on its way. 👍 Thanks for watching!
Very nice
Thank you and thanks for watching!
I'm really looking for a '57 or '58 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp. Have any for sale?
I rarely part with an 18hp. Glad to hear you found one. I'm trying for the entire Jetstream cowl run of Fastwins. 1961-1970. I have a few of them.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 I haven't found one. Desperately looking hard for a nice '58 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp in excellent running and cosmetic condition. Need it for my 12' mahogany plywood runabout. If you ever run across one that's available for sale like this one would you please let me know? I'd really appreciate your help!
Thanks,
Rex
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Don't much care for the later ones '57-58 all I'm interested in.
Thanks,
Rex
@@rexstormer897 I'll let you know if I see one come up. I like those too and the '58 is really sweet if it has the plastic medallions on the front like this one has. I like these and the later ones.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks Johnny! Best Regards, Rex
Hello, does anyone know what compression is supposed to be on these motors? I have one that tested at 60-65 psi. Worth rebuilding? Junk???
Absolutely worth rebuilding! Hone the cylinders and throw some new rings in it. Or send it to me
Can you recommend a reference for the steering/shifting rigging that you are using?
It is just done with period appropriate parts and common methods for cable-pulley (tiller rope) steering. I hand built the deck, mounting brackets, steering shaft, mount, and bearings. I made a video going over the build on this channel also. I go into what I used and how I put it together in that video. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 great. I will go look for it. Thanks again!
Beauty!!! I’ve always loved the ‘58 colours! How do you find them in such good shape? Up here in Canada everything seems to have the life ran right out of it
I'm quite fond of the '58s in both Evinrude and Johnson trim. They're not all in that good of shape. I get lucky sometimes. There is a lot of clapped out junk around too. Location has plenty to do with it. Im in Michigan, and I go to meets in Wisconsin and have friends in Minnesota. All fresh water and short seasons help keep the motors nicer than if you're near any salt or have longer seasons. I'm not sire where in Canada you are, but that could make a difference. Thanks for watching!
How fast should my 1436 Grumman 1996 with a deck go with 3 150 guys go with a 9.8hp Nissan 2 stroke 2004 and light gear
You just can beat those oldies
With a deck, gear, and 3 guys you're pretty well loaded in a 1436 jon boat. Depending on how your weight is distributed, how your motor is propped and the trim setting, you may or may not get the boat on plane with a 9.8. If you get on plane I would expect around 12mph. If not, you may be closer to 6 or 7 mph. So many factors it is hard to guess. Thanks for watching!
Thanks we got 16.5 yesterday it was awesome
Do you have a list of for sale motors?
I do not have a list of them anywhere that I keep up. I currently have a 1958 Johnson 5.5hp and a 1956 Johnson 10hp for sale. I have not listed either of the. On Craigslist or FB Marketplace yet. I do not ship motors. I am in SE Michigan.
I don’t know, seems like a bit of a hard starter to me. You had to use almost 18 inches of recoil rope!
I know, right! The video makes it look worse than it is though. It was already started by the time I got 8" of rope out. The other 10 just kinda followed after it bumped over compression. LOL! 😜 Thanks for watching, Ed!
Old JohnnyRude That’s a real beauty! Nice work my friend. See you Thursday!
HELLO JOHNNY WATCHED THIS ONCE BEFORE SO HAVE A QUESTION AS I HAVE ONE.
I ALSO HAVE A 1959 18 HP AS YOU KNOW. JUST CRANKED THE 1959 OVER TO TAKE A COMPRRESSION. BOTH CYLINDER HAVE 80 PSI. THE 1958 IS A PULL START ONLY GOT 50 PSI IS THAT NORMAL FOR A PULL START MOTOR. I DID PUT OIL IN THE CYLINDERS. BEFOR THE OIL I ONLY GOT 30 PSI EACH CYLINDER.
For a healthy 18 the compression is usually between 105 and 130 psi. Any of my 18s will show over 100psi using the pull rope. Make sure you pull the rope very firmly and it takes about 4 or 5 pulls to get the compression number to level off. 80 is pretty low for an 18 and it will not run on 30psi or even 50. On that motor you may want to check for loose head bolts or a bad head gasket.
GOTCHA THANK YOU ON ALL POINTS.
THE 58 I FIGUERED WAS TO LOW BUT ITS MY SPARE PARTS MOTOR. WILL DO IT OVER THE WINTER. THE 59 ( MY TYPO ERROR )WITH THE STARTER MOTOR READ 90 ( NOT 80 ) ON BOTH CYLINDERS, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH TO PUT ON MY 14 FOOT SPEED BOAT. PS NOT INTO SPEED JUST RELIABILITY
@@ugotit33x The 59 will run at 90psi just fine if the two cylinders are even. It may come up after running it for a while. You may want to decarbonize it with Power Tune or Engine Tuner and you may have rings sticking. It is a good product and does what it does very well. It is certainly worth a try and that motor will work fine on your boat. The older 15s run great at 90psi. The 18s are very much the same engine with a larger bore.
THANK YOU I ACCTUALLY DOWN LOAD ALL THE REBUILD VIDS YOU DID THEY ARE GREAT. I BOUGHT A CLYMERS MANUAL 1.5 -125 HP 1956-1972 EVINRUDE/JOHNSON BOOK. IT WILL HELP ME. THE 50 COMPRESSION ENGINE WILL NEW RINGS BRING UP COMPRESSION DID. YOU DO A VID ON THAT OR DID I MISS IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND KNOWLEDGE.
I LIVE ON PRIMCE EDWARD ISLAND CANADA ALL THE OLD OUT BOARD MECHANICS ARE GONE. STAY SAFE.
@@ugotit33x Thank you. I'm glad you find the tune up videos helpful. It depends on the reason the low compression engine has low compression. It may just need a head gasket. It may need to be decarbonized. It may have internal damage and need a rebore and new OS pistons and rings. Without looking into it, there is really no way to know. Sometimes a light honing to break the glaze and a re-break in will do it. It just depends on condition and cause.
Wow. And just to think ppl spends $10s of 1000s on new ones.
Yes, they certainly do. These oldies run beautifully as long as they're mechanically solid and get a good tune up. It becomes more of an issue of being willing to put the time and effort into these. The parts are still available, although they get to be less available all the time. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 I just bought today a beautiful 1958 like the one here thanks to videos like yours. Thanks!
@@alexcruz7719 Very nice! I love the '57 and '58 Evinrude graphics and they're fantastic motors. Good luck woth yours. Thanks again for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thank you, Sr. We, sometimes get so obssesed with getting the newest, shinny objects that we forget that greatness was also left behind and is more reacheable and your channel is one of those that helps other like me to remember that.
Quiet smoothness that rivals any four stroke out there.... With two stroke power and no smoke.... Be still my heart...
This definitely is a beauty of a motor. Good power, runs perfectly, easy to start, looks nice. What more could you ask for? Thanks for watching, Don!