Humic Acid and Phosphorus
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- So many of you have been asking for this video, it seems like the time was right as we approach our overseeding and renovation time. Establishing a role of humic acid in your program is absolutely vital for ensuring and guaranteeing the best possible usage of phosphorus with your new seedlings. For many decades, the benefits of humic acid and it’s synergistic affect on phosphorus has been well noted. The links below will lead you to research studies done on the topic.
Humic acid in a reacted form has the ability to unwind more complex metal ions that would otherwise attract phosphorus and bind it. It also has the ability to increase the mobility of phosphorus throughout the soil rather than have it be stuck to other organic compounds. In situations where organic phosphorus is being used as with biosolids, manures or plant-based fertilizers, humic has the ability to aid in the detaching of from the source material thereby making it available to the plant.
Humic has some uniqueness in the way it can equally attract cations and anions. There is an equal balance in the way the polymeric compound works as it passes through the soil profile. What this means is that there is a wide variety of nutrients that will not be lost as they are washed through the soil colloid.
For those of you who are new to the topic, it may be beneficial to take a look back on some of my previous videos explaining the difference between reacted humic acid and powdered or granular forms. It is so often that in the studies that show limited humic acid effects, a powdered or even a coating was used rather than actual reacted humic acid that has been broken free from its carbon source material.
Bottom line here, always check the source. Do a little searching yourself. If something smells like crap, it probably is crap. Please feel free to check the links below and see for yourself.
At the end of this video I mention a special that will be coming up on the Greene county fertilizer seeding pack available at yard mastery, Gci Turf services, and The Lawn Care Nut. We have extended to our awesome vendors a Special savings and are passing it on to you. The sale is online only and will start Friday morning August 28, 2020 and continue until September 4, 2020.
Thank you all for the support and let’s get out there and make our grass green again!
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Thanks for the continued education on overall soil health. Every plant on my property looks better than the neighbors. You make some excellent lawn sauce sir.
Thank you!
Couldn’t agree more !
Love your videos and the information you provide. I usually find myself looking through your older content after watching something new. Gotta keep learning!
Thanks Caleb!
Used the seeding pack from Greene County Fert last year and was by far the best results I have ever seen in an overseed project. Not even close. Get out in the yard, do the work, WATER, and sit back and enjoy very quick results. Thanks again for the knowledge John
Thanks Brandon!!!
Who knew that humic acid would be such a controversial topic in lawn care this year. Just add it to another gem 2020 has given us.
Jon Fokken I know right? 😂😂
Fantastic video as always! Your talks about Humic bring to mind the “experiment” you did a while back showing your Humic in solution versus “soluable” Humic products. I can still remember how the other products fell out of suspension rather quickly. Your full disclosure is one of the reasons I work with your products, and your honesty is appreciated. The other reason of course is that they do truly work. My biggest regret, as far as lawn care, is that i didn’t take many before pictures of my lawn when I moved in last year. But the quality of my lawn now does have people stopping in front of my house to compliment me. I always suggest your products and take very little credit. Thank again. Keep up the great work!
Thank you my friend. Super kind words there
Nothing but the truth... and glad to share it!
Love the vid John, as I’m going into spring all excited 🇦🇺
Awesome! There’s a piece of me that wishes I could do a never winter year and just hold the equator... I don’t think this is the year for that though
Great stuff, Professor. Thanks as always!
One of your best videos. Great ambiance, lighting, intermittent flashes of phosphorus, music, perfect presentation speed, etcetera, etcetera. Oh! Did I mention content? Look forward to reviewing the links you provided. Great video... thank you.
Thanks gene! I always appreciate the support Boss!
Thanks for the video. Started using your 7-0-0 this year. Really like it.
Another great explanation video. Thanks John. Cya soon.
Awesome video big John. learn something every time👍🇺🇸
Thank Joe
So much knowledge in all of your videos! Thanks for what you do! You're like a wizard alchemist if the old days. 🤣
Putting the fertilizer back in witchcraft! 😂
I thank you for this video and feel like I stirred the pot with my comment in your previous video. I’m just a diy’er trying to be the best I can be. Love your content and products! Thanks JP!
Tony Bowman lol. No, I’d been getting questions about this for a couple weeks now and needed to set the record straight. You’re good buddy
Lawncology cool! I’m glad you sett the record straight. #greencountyfertrules #humicacid #humic12 #greenpop #diylawncare
Thank for the educational series you've put out. I sent a soil test to you and was critical about your recommendations based on what the soil test showed was "optimal". I apologize for that. I'm the kind of person who needs to know the why behind what I'm doing and you helped explain that. Appreciate all you do.
Thank you Greg! Did you get my follow up email with all the explanations? I didn’t hear back from you
@@Lawncology I did get your follow up message. I am currently applying what you recommended. Thanks again.
Greg Aspenson awesome. Keep me posted on the results!!
I’ve already started killing off my front yard in preparation for fall renovation. I was being double dominated with TTTF. Already have the seeding pack and ready to use it!
You’re going to love it
I didn't know we had class today 😂 I do really appreciate your taking the time to educate us on what we put down and how it works and why that is why I consider you to be my turf professor 💯👏👏👏👍
Thanks boss
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Just listened to a podcast of Joel Simmons and Lawrence Mayhew on humics. It was fascinating to learn that people were playing with humics back in the 1700’s.
Yes. I think that the big issue is both with claims that have been made and that there hasn’t been standardization of the material. These are things things that Neil need to be over come
Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I am a new home owner and started my work on my poorly maintained lawn (by the last owner) which basically had no grass and had only moss and weeds. I am in pacific north west, Seattle which has mostly cool and wet weather conditions. My lawn is shaded by trees which adds to the shade plus my lawn is north facing and hence it receives very little sun (except for summers). I added a french drain to improve the drainage of my lawn and all the efforts over spring did pay off to an extent. My lawn has clay based soil and hence I want to know the best way to condition the soil. Would you recommend tilling with compost or do you think top dressing with organic matter + humic acid would work ? FYI: I have become obsessed with lawn care and want the best looking turf in the hood :) Please help :)
John as always I enjoy your videos. I appreciate the sale you are running during Labor Day season. I have a big yard (67,378 sq ft) I hoping for a sale on your 2 1/2 or 5 gallons containers of your Nex t Products. If this is not possible that is okay I am still a big fan. Thanks again for all you do.
Brilliant work mate!
Thank you!0
Science! Now that what I am talking about JP! Cool Vid with the magic show transitions! Kind of spooky! I was waiting for this vid as I heard some interesting information on how Humic had the potential to render Phos neutral and not plant available during seed germination. Thanks for clearing that up with the provided links and studies! Love these types of vids, call me a nerd if your will. I am all about the facts and the science behind everything. Peace and God's Love! Chad Upstate NY
Thank you Chad!
Thanks! this is GREAT information
Thank you
I’m very happy to watch this video after listening to Grass Factor
I'm ready for my seeding pack !!!!
Got to love Georgia red clay, but my Zoysia (Meyers) is doing very well with the help of your products.
Awesome
John, I'm in N/W Florida. Last year my backyard was attacked by sod web worms and I just thought it was the dogs. Needless to say I caught the problem way too late and I have a huge dead area that has been overtaken by crabgrass this summer. I would like to overseed this area with zoysia seed before winter. What are your recommendations to doing this and would an overseed of clean rye help provide protection during the winter?
Paul
You reminded me of Merlin the wizard sitting by the candle dropping fire from above! The proof is in the pudding John! Your products work. Very well!
Thanks Barry. Energy and breaking the monotony and mellow tone was the idea there
Lawncology , I’ll leave the chemistry to you! Thanks for the education and for helping me understand better the reasons all things work together. I’ve found in all “systems “ whatever they may be, are only as strong as the weakest link.
Question. I anticipate going all liquids this year at over seeding time. Soooooo, would it be advantageous to seed germination to apply the N-ext products and liquid ferts immediately after overseeding to get the products on the seed, or apply before/after seeding?
There are directions in the seeding pack, but you can go right down in the seed
This is the content I'm here for. Spooky turf science. haha
Good stuff, sir. Thanks.
Lol. Thank you
I didn't know this was going to be a Halloween video. 😉 Good info, John. Thank you!
Midnight Merlin magic hour 😂
I’m fixing dead spots this year-I had some clumping fescue. I picked up the GCI Turfmend patch repair. I already have all of the products in the seed pack. Your product works too good though 😂-that GreenePop is no joke. I’m afraid the lawn will take off growing before I germination because I have the kbg patch repair. I was considering just applying the overseed products to the patches and maybe spoon feeding the rest of the lawn.
Spoon feeding is a great idea
John, is it too late in the season to use greenpop on my centipede in coastal alabama? my soil report shows a low level of phosphorus?
Phosphorus needs in centipede are near zero. If you were to use it, keep the rate very low. 9 ounces maximum per thousand
Great Videos... I have compacted clay lawn thats dying... Should I use Air 8 the first week, then next week followed by Root growth juice? I might even drop down some seed on the patches and cover with topsoil... What part of the country do you live? I like the dune buggies and off roading...
I think thats a great idea and I live in Utah
Great video John! Really appreciate all the information and content you provide!
I've got a random but how much coffee do you drink in a day? I feel like every video, this one being the exception, you have a coffee mug on hand.
Thanks Kevin. Not too much anymore, a big day is 4 cups. Mostly these days it’s two
The next question is, “how many pounds of local beans do you grind everyday?” The strength of the Joe has much to do with this. Trust me I could get you down to one cup a day... it would be as thick as Humic 12.
BermudaLawnNC lol. So I have multiple coffee sources depending on the day. I grind a local roasted (pink elephant) and do a cemex pour over. Other days I used my Nespresso mini and do straight espresso
Lawncology I knew you knew coffee. Lately randomly grab 2 different local bags, blend whole beans in bowl store in glass container, grind and french press daily. Lol, also have a Nespresso for backup and guests we really don’t like. I need to finish watching this video!
Does granular humic wash away before it does its job, or build up in the soil and is useful over a longer period of time? Or something else?
In sandy soils, do you generally see low levels of phosphorus and/or potassium? Or is it still highly dependent on pH and other factors that may hold those elements or let them wash away?
Granular will build, it will decay and leak some acid over a long period of time, but this is a very very slow process. You will build great opportunities for microbial population and aid in great CEC
Awesome vid!
Thanks!
John, I have a lot of Humic12 and will be using a granular starter fert. I have been applying humic12 throughout the year. When is the best time to apply humic to aid in seeding purposes? 1 week before, right over seed, or 1 week or so after seeding?
Apply a week before
Any plans to take N-ext products to Australia? Keen to try de-thatch and Air-8 but haven't found anything similar here.
I wish we were moving toward that but we aren’t right now. The States are keeping us wide open and we have plans for wider expansion, but this year it’s been balls to the wall bust at our plant.
Nice video! How often can I put down Humic Acid on my lawn? I have RGS ,Air 8,and your dethatch products. I put RGS at the rate said on the container about 2 week ago and my lawn looks great.
If you want a biostim spoon feed, apply one of those each week at three ounces and rotate one to the next
Or all 4 of biostim package at 3oz per 1000 once per month
When your soil is very high in P (like 300 ppm), can humic acid help the turf "use it faster" or anything like that? Will my soil just always be high P?
It will keep P available but it’s up to your plants to use it. They will call on P when growth requires it. Bagging your clippings is a way to reduce soil P
Hey JP. I started a lawn renovation. Wiped everything down to bare soil. My question is my phosphorus is at 86 ppm. When seeding, would any of this high P be available to the baby seeds? From your teachings you do mention that P can sometimes not be available. Should I put some P down even with this high reading because of the infancy grass seed stage?
If you do, make sure it’s very low. Phos in the soil like you have benefits greatly by doing a small amount of N and humic together. The two will mobilize the P
Lawncology thank you JP! Appreciate the reply bro!
Which fertilizer would you recommend for over seeding bluegrass, and after germination has occurred?
GreenePop 16-21-2 if you need Phos!
Do you have a link on where to get humic acid ? I have heavy clay soil, and it's high in phosphorus. Thanks
Yardmastery.com
GciTurfservices.com
Hello John, I am in the process of a renovation, 4800sq ft, right now we still have mid to upper 90's here but after today thats suppose to change. Cool Blue from GCI is going down with starter and compost, my question Is Humic acid and RGS can be applied after seeding? I think its fine and your video indicates that I think but what do you say? Thank you
Yes it can, but I would do the humic on the day of and the rgs post germination
3-4 oz/ 1000 like I did throughout the summer or would you recommend a slightly higher amount?
Im driving by
Avanti international as am listening to the video, lawncology 2019 was an awesome experience. Too bad you went to Georgia for the 2020
We will be in Georgia again next time. You should come!
@@Lawncology Can those of us DIYers who live in GA attend? I'd love to nerd out in person!
Bad timing on my part. Just bought the seeding/overseeding pack a week or so ago getting ready for my lawn reno. Oh well. Always enjoy the science vids
Nice, I was the 69th like.
Lol
This is the kind of video that separates you from the pack. Excellent.
Bobby F thank you sir
Lawncology, your information and products have done more for my yard then anything I have tried.
“In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.“- Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut
You’re all practice.
John, I think you and Matt should just get it over with and have a winner take all no rules cage fight. I think I speak for everyone in being super excited for the event, you’ve got the reach, he’s got the mass, let me know.
LOL. I absolutely wish no ill will on Matt, he has taken on a major undertaking trying to start a business with a method that didn’t exist prior to the start. Professionally, he wasn’t ready the first year out and so there was no way for us to continue to do business until all of the kinks were worked out. I do not see him as a competitor in anyway, we are just two people in the fertilizer space and there are thousands of others. I have always said that I do not get distracted by what others are doing, but I will call out misinformation as I have done with other UA-cam personalities who are not spreading proper information. Just watch my 412 ratio video😉
Haha just having some fun man I love your videos great knowledge although I have to admit this one had a bit of are you afraid of the dark feel to it 😂
My Phos levels were off the charts in the spring. Assuming the level is still very high (Sending soil test in this week) should I still apply a starter fert down in the upcoming weeks lawn renovation? Going with Bluebank KBG
Likely not. If anything it needs to be very small amount. Pretreat withliquid humic, spread seed and feed with a light dose of N. No more than 1/3lb per thousand. Feed again 21 days post emergence
@@Lawncology Your the man, greatly appreciate your help.
I'm so glad you asked this as I am in the exact same situation (and using the same seed too). Best of luck to you on your fall project and thanks for responding John! I started using your products earlier this and am now hooked. Thank you for all you do for the DIY community!
jonnyGoBlue thanks Johnny!
Is there anything good to tank mix with tenacity when core aerating and overseeding?
as far as?
Yah know, good stuff. Minors? Humic? I was going to mix in a liquid aeration but it says not to do so four weeks before or after seeding. Should I leave it as just tenacity?
Amy idea Humid acid use in aquaculture seawater ? like shrimp.
Awesome info. I like the survivorish theme, I was hoping you would announce me as the Lawncology Lone Overseeding survivor. 😂
Lol. Thanks buddy
SoCal Lawn N Order Yeah! I was thinking the same thing! I was waiting for that Toro Blower to be offered as the Immunity token for the next Lawn Challenge! Looking forward to starting a new lawn with GCI Seed this year and using the GCF Seeding pack. Had to listen to this vid twice to make sure to get the great info JP always offers.
Nathan Smith Your gonna have fun Nathan. Best way to learn is from the beginning.
RGS ok post germination ... or stick with straight Humic?
Yes it is. In fact the kelp portion is your friend after germination
🧪🧬🌱Always love a little science in the morning!🌱🧬🧪
Starts the day right!!
I have 4 new gallons of Next products. Gonna give it a go. Just had my septic system replaced for 26K and the drought killed much of the hydroseed. After a quarterly water bill of $1700 I am still going to press on. I can't have bare dirt - and then just weeds.
Oh man that’s rough!!!
I know this has been discussed before, but what is the ideal amount of rainfall over a liquid humic app to drive it into the soil. I have 1.5 acres of unirrigated lawn.
Gary Steffen how are you applying now? 1/8-1/4” would be sufficient
Lawncology tow sprayer. I’m overseeding in one week. Forecasted to get around 1” of rain over two days. Is that too much? Large yards need mother nature’s help.
Gary Steffen you’ll be totally fine with that
great video brother, I feel like some ‘grass factor people’ should watch this video and educate themselves...
Might help bring some more perspective
That was the most educational ghost story I've ever heard.
Maybe I should do a theme for all of them
@@Lawncology when it comes to the deep dive videos I think that's a great idea.
Yeah, there for a while I thought he was going to have us all hold hands around the table. 👻
I love a good sale! And of course turfgrass information.
Yay!
Hi John, I recently purchased the seeding/over-seeding pack for a lawn renovation I'm doing. I applied the seed and the 16-21-2 GreenPOP on Wednesday. I forgot to apply the RGS at seeding. Would you recommend applying the RGS now or wait until the 21 days post germination to apply RGS and 9-0-1? Also I'm using a futerra netless blanket on top of the seed and not sure if that will impact the RGS application.
Might as well wait at the point
@Lawncology I always wanted to know if spraying a 15-15-15 compared to spreading a 15-15-15 granular which one would be more beneficlal? I asked on a few lawn discussion message boards and didnt get many responses. One person did reply and said "you needs lbs on the ground, so spreading is way better" Then I watched where you and mentioned @4:25 spraying phosphorus is more beneficial. Your thoughts? I liked the video, the flames made your face melt in and out ha
This come down to soil/crop needs. It’s very easy to get equal amounts of pounds down with both analysis, but the liquid at a full pound would likely cause burn as it is already solubilized and therefore “hotter”. You will have a faster effect with liquid but would need to apply at more intervals if you were going for the exact same amount of pounds as granular. Typically you have greater efficiency with liquids and when you judge the turf by overall look and health, you would find that over the course of the season, you wouldn’t be applying as many pounds as granular due to increased intake efficiency of liquid. A 10lb of liquid 15-15-15 has the same amount of nutrients as 10lbs of granular 15-15-15
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Marshmallows anyone?
nice video john, go figure, the discount code comes out now when i just received my starter pack this past friday. my timing couldnt have been any better... lol
I’m sorry! Shoot me your address and I’ll send you a little something to make up for it 😁
@@Lawncology thank you JP, I will email you at answers
I’m going to be overseeing this weekend. I have a granular starter fert and a fresh bio stim pack. I will be aerating prior to spreading the new seed. Do you recommend putting any of the aforementioned down the day of seeding and if so, what? Or would it be better to hold off until post germination?? Thanks
Yes, rgs now would be great
Hey John. I didn't see any references proving the efficacy of Super Juice or Humichar😆
Lol
Hi, do you selling Humic acid in Canada?
We don’t yet
Fun seance!
Bringing the witchcraft (science)
@@Lawncology , Voodoo Agronomics?
I loved this video but you probably knew I would.🌱🌠🌚
I would have guessed 😂😉
Science & lawncare , mmmmmmmm , my favourite subjects .
Now if you have any info on a quantum gravity , that would be awesome 🤓.
that would be fun
I may be stuck putting down 50 pounds of granular. Don't really want to be spraying a half acre of lawn.
You need an ezflo
@@Lawncology I just did some research on it and was pleased to see that it works with underground drip irrigation systems. I'm considering the rainbird xfs system. Not sure how long anymore until I renovate. Between soil and irrigation for 5k sqft I'm looking at 3 grand already. To do 15k is going to be probably closer to 12 to 15 as the backyard is worse. I'm thinking I need to start reaching out to some companies to see if they want to use my yard for marketing purposes to get it at least mostly paid for. Any experience there?
wait, did I just get hypnotized?
Lol
This feels like a Halloween video lol
SCIENCE 🔥
Bringing the heat 🔥
I felt like I was watching the Blair Witch Project, hahah! JK. Great information as always! Crazy amounts of information for my brain, me learn, it hurt, lol. Great Video!
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Good morning
Morning! Stay safe buddy
Lawncology totally digging the vibes in this video.. felt like class was in session and I was eager to learn 😎💪 great info as always thank you 🙌🙏
AY YN mystery turf science theater
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I can't wait until the day some of your products make it into Ontario Canada. We have absolutely nothing like this stuff available on the market. 2-4D is practically impossible to get for Residential use. Haven't seen Surfactant's in any stores. Humic acid? ha good luck, not around here. It's why I have high hopes for your products making it to market here, Ontario basically crushed all herbicides for residential use, and none of the companies care to invest in more environmentally friendly things such as your liquid aerator. It's all strictly Scott's granulated crap.
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GM ☕
Happy Thursday
My lawn looks best in the dark.
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Strange eerie darkness bye
Yes! It was the tone I was going for
Late night lawncare.......
Seemed fitting 😂
Lawncare, from the midnight society lol
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Uh oh, hes going at carbon 🌍 company
Z G nah. Just some comments made online that needed correcting
Trying to pizz off Humicar Doc? LOL
Ha! No. Humichar has a place as with all things. It always depends on what your going for. Humichar will likely be best as a Soil colonization tool. Getting some of that carbon down and incorporated into the soil is very positive.
@@Lawncology 10-4 on that. I just was busting on Doc (a little) for his over- pimping of Humichar, PGF Complete and Superjuice. Anybody can dump the kitchen sink on bermuda and get some results. I kind of like to consider cost vs results also.
Richard Gleason weighing the cost is important. Honestly cheap granular fert and biostimulant liquids to enhance will pretty much dominate anything out there
scary!
Aclockworkblue 😂
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Bedtime story
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Seabirds poop phosphorus and humic acid...
Dude turn the music off. Hard to hear.