Great review Mark. I was lucky enough to test ride the same model of bike a few months ago and was very impressed, especially with the acceleration and smooth ride. I wouldn’t buy one just yet though due to the cost and limited travel range but it’s definitely the future.
Hi Mark...my first comment on your channel. Been watching your videos for a while now and must say I really enjoy your reviews, especially where you sit for the side view...very helpful. Keep up the good work. 👍
Unreal bike , after owning and living with a srf i can say omg brilliant bike such a blast ,its been my dream bike ever since a test ride , 190nm of torque from go to gone ,love it
Excellent review Mark as always! I have now ventured into getting my 2nd electric mountain bike the Sur-ron - Chinese translated as Light Bee - and am thoroughly enjoying it's weight - or rather - lack of. It's designed for off road / dirt tracks but could also be a viable short distance commuter in the city. Now that I've gone Ultra light Weight, not sure i would go back to 'proper' motorbikes - but that's just me and my experience. Always looking out for more reviews on two wheeler EV's though!
Good video as always. I particularly like your perspective as we are the same height. And youre right, the instant even one of the big 4 releases an electric bike they will be flooded.
It definitely is the future Mark. The range must be increased for traveling with plenty of charging stations. Let's hope they don't catch fire like the Chevy Volt car. Perfect for the city though......Sal : )
Thanks mark,another informative video.It was interesting to note that the battery pack had a fiive year warrenty,this seems to suggest that this part of the bike is probably the most expensive bit.It begs the question,if you fancy a change three or four years down the line will anyone want it,or are you going to be stuck with a very expensive ornament?I don't want to sound too negative here but things would have to improve greatly price wise before l was tempted.Look forward to your next video.
Hi Robert thanks for the comment...I have been told that the batteries can do 200,000 miles so it will generally outlive the motorcycle by a long way ...but yes the life of battery does make you think ...a friend has a zero which is four years old with no reduction in battery performance :) Cheers mark
Electric certainly in our future. Good to see that suspension and braking components are mainstream and that the bike handles and stops as we would expect on a higher spec motorbike.
Have an EV car Mike and its the same so relaxing and effortless acceleration.Seriously considering getting a bike once the big four bring them out.Already have 7kw podpoint installed in the garage and current EV rate @ 7.4p per kwh.
Hi Mark, that does look like a lot of fun, I’m old school, much prefer the good old combustion engine. Bit pricey for me, wouldn’t mind a wee blast on one though.
Mark, these are amazing bikes but range is key and the reliable network to charge them. Johnson and Co will need to fathom how the network will be powered with years of dithering over nuclear and gas prices massively increasing.
Not a bad bike but I am still not convinced to swap my Kawasaki Z900 for this one. Too expensive, the range is not fantastic either. Surely not good enough when you want to go touring with it, commuting at best. Nice one Mark.
If you had been riding an ICE bike with an Akrapovic exhaust the van driver parked at the side of the road at 12:34 would likely have not opened his driver's door on you as you were passing. This is a major negative for electric bikes. They are pretty much silent. I would be really anxious riding one in a typically busy urban environment when the roads are busy. They would need to have a good horn and the headlight be very good as well as the good brakes to avoid anything or anyone. When they definitely give 150 miles per charge even with spirited riding and a max 15 minute charge from an empty battery to full then I think they will be serious contenders. And the prices come down. Thanks for the review.
Zero is going to have to offer their bikes with a DC fast charging option if they want to make them useful for touring. Level 2 charging just doesn’t cut it. Any chance you can get your hands on one of the bikes from Energica?
Being brutally honest, 80 miles of range on the motorway along with an 80 minute charge time is a total deal breaker for me, which is a shame because I really do think electric bikes are the future. The tech needs to mature somewhat before manufacturers can claim that electric motorcycles are a direct replacement for their ICE cousins, except perhaps in a city environment where you won't need all this performance, so for me this bike is a bit of a white elephant, and a very expensive one at that...
Love electric vehicles. I have electric car, bike and scooter, but not motorcycle and yet as they still lack range for the money. I ride a Tricity atm.
I was literally on the point of buying one when I found out about the scam they run where they make you pay money to "unlock" things already built into your bike, like a video game or something. No way.
What I would like to know as somebody that wants to get a motorcycle.... From what I've heard talking to other people is that your first bike shouldn't be absurdly powerful. Which makes complete sense. You don't want a ridiculous amount of power in the hands of a novice. Like giving the McLaren to someone that just got their driver's license. Lol My question is, is that same line of thinking applicable to electric bikes like these because there is no gearing in because they're so smooth? Not that I would necessarily want a crazy amount of power just to have it but because these bikes are more expensive.... that's kind of what I'm getting at.
It’s great bike but 34 mile range with 49% in sports not good I wait for the day when they can do 200 Motorway/freeway speed like add decent tourers do until then it will always be a city runner which is a real shame
As others have said cost and range are the stumbling blocks, plus there are too many numbskulls in cars and vans who wouldn’t know you were approaching due to the silent running.
First off not my cup of tea as you poms say does anything get hot like a normal bike the drive for instance Seems a large “tank” for storage nothing is there something else under there Just seems weird I know this is the future but hope they look better than this fat boy looking thing 😳😵💫😵💫 As always take care stay safe from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺🙂😷👍
Great review Mark. I was lucky enough to test ride the same model of bike a few months ago and was very impressed, especially with the acceleration and smooth ride. I wouldn’t buy one just yet though due to the cost and limited travel range but it’s definitely the future.
Great review mark,that's got some serious power,and what I like is they look like a proper motorcycle.
Thanks James yes they are getting better .... imagine a Honda version :)
Hi Mark...my first comment on your channel.
Been watching your videos for a while now and must say I really enjoy your reviews, especially where you sit for the side view...very helpful.
Keep up the good work.
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Thanks Jason yes the sit on bike has become my USP !!
@@markpulling12 it certainly works
Unreal bike , after owning and living with a srf i can say omg brilliant bike such a blast ,its been my dream bike ever since a test ride , 190nm of torque from go to gone ,love it
Lovely looking bikes, bit more than I want to spend just yet - great review as ever :)
Thanks I really enjoyed it ...but the price needs to come down a bit for me :)
Yes they are a rip off I cannot see how that is more expensive to produce?
Impressive acceleration I could get use to it's looks, I reckon fun ride too . Good review Mark I enjoyed it cheers : )
Thanks Malcolm :)
Excellent review Mark as always! I have now ventured into getting my 2nd electric mountain bike the Sur-ron - Chinese translated as Light Bee - and am thoroughly enjoying it's weight - or rather - lack of. It's designed for off road / dirt tracks but could also be a viable short distance commuter in the city. Now that I've gone Ultra light Weight, not sure i would go back to 'proper' motorbikes - but that's just me and my experience. Always looking out for more reviews on two wheeler EV's though!
Thanks Vincent yes I'm looking forward to the electric future...I'm aware of the sur Ron look great 👍
Thanks for a great review. Based on this I just got one (used). Looking so much forward to spring !
Hi Kim great choice...these are amazing machines best wishes mark
Good video as always. I particularly like your perspective as we are the same height.
And youre right, the instant even one of the big 4 releases an electric bike they will be flooded.
Thanks for the view
Yes I'm looking forward to seeing japanese versions ... cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Two words.
Electric Goldwing
*angels sing*
@@ZoahPorre wow now your talking :
It definitely is the future Mark. The range must be increased for traveling with plenty of charging stations. Let's hope they don't catch fire like the Chevy Volt car. Perfect for the city though......Sal : )
Great review Mark, Zero chance of me spending 20k plus on a Bike.
Haha yes me too ... hopefully they should drop in price in the future :)
Thanks mark,another informative video.It was interesting to note that the battery pack had a fiive year warrenty,this seems to suggest that this part of the bike is probably the most expensive bit.It begs the question,if you fancy a change three or four years down the line will anyone want it,or are you going to be stuck with a very expensive ornament?I don't want to sound too negative here but things would have to improve greatly price wise before l was tempted.Look forward to your next video.
Hi Robert thanks for the comment...I have been told that the batteries can do 200,000 miles so it will generally outlive the motorcycle by a long way ...but yes the life of battery does make you think ...a friend has a zero which is four years old with no reduction in battery performance :)
Cheers mark
Lovely looking bikes, with a decent seat height too. Do they have regenerative brakng/ charging in the other drive modes ?. Great video as usual.
Hi Roger yes they do have the regenerative braking :)
Electric certainly in our future. Good to see that suspension and braking components are mainstream and that the bike handles and stops as we would expect on a higher spec motorbike.
Thanks Paul .
Future biking mark nice bike great review 👍
Thanks Andrew ...boy doesn't it shift !
Have an EV car Mike and its the same so relaxing and effortless acceleration.Seriously considering getting a bike once the big four bring them out.Already have 7kw podpoint installed in the garage and current EV rate @ 7.4p per kwh.
Hi Mark, that does look like a lot of fun, I’m old school, much prefer the good old combustion engine. Bit pricey for me, wouldn’t mind a wee blast on one though.
Thanks Craig yes they are great fun ...I think internal combustion is here for a good while yet :)
This is the future, and I like it. 😎
Many thanks
You should do a 0 to 60 on your test just give us an idea on how quick they are..👍🏻
Mark, these are amazing bikes but range is key and the reliable network to charge them. Johnson and Co will need to fathom how the network will be powered with years of dithering over nuclear and gas prices massively increasing.
Thanks Ian for the info 😊
Sorry didn't hear you mate! Awesome bike, not my thing but interesting. Thankyou
I like it.
Not a bad bike but I am still not convinced to swap my Kawasaki Z900 for this one. Too expensive, the range is not fantastic either. Surely not good enough when you want to go touring with it, commuting at best. Nice one Mark.
Thanks Pietro ....no sadly not really a touring option unless you plan in lots of charge stops ... hopefully they will improve :)
I can see you on either a Zero or Energica Mark! Not too distant future 🙌
Yes Steve energica for me £25 k lol
@@markpulling12 walk in the park!
If you had been riding an ICE bike with an Akrapovic exhaust the van driver parked at the side of the road at 12:34 would likely have not opened his driver's door on you as you were passing. This is a major negative for electric bikes. They are pretty much silent. I would be really anxious riding one in a typically busy urban environment when the roads are busy. They would need to have a good horn and the headlight be very good as well as the good brakes to avoid anything or anyone. When they definitely give 150 miles per charge even with spirited riding and a max 15 minute charge from an empty battery to full then I think they will be serious contenders. And the prices come down. Thanks for the review.
Thanks Alex :)
Zero is going to have to offer their bikes with a DC fast charging option if they want to make them useful for touring. Level 2 charging just doesn’t cut it. Any chance you can get your hands on one of the bikes from Energica?
The energica bikes look incredible but even more expensive ...I'll see if I can source one :)
Being brutally honest, 80 miles of range on the motorway along with an 80 minute charge time is a total deal breaker for me, which is a shame because I really do think electric bikes are the future. The tech needs to mature somewhat before manufacturers can claim that electric motorcycles are a direct replacement for their ICE cousins, except perhaps in a city environment where you won't need all this performance, so for me this bike is a bit of a white elephant, and a very expensive one at that...
Thanks for the view ...ps love the white elephant 🐘 saying I use that all the time lol
Are the wind noises better or worse with the SR/S- model compared to this one?
Hi Michael a bit better because it has a fairing and wind screen but the f model is still acceptable
Best wishes mark
What’s a good beginner bike to get? Any advice for someone who is really interested in getting a bike? Affordability is something to consider 😅
Which country do you live in?
Rebel 500 or ktm390 duke ?
Love electric vehicles. I have electric car, bike and scooter, but not motorcycle and yet as they still lack range for the money. I ride a Tricity atm.
@@DanTube2010 the USA
I was literally on the point of buying one when I found out about the scam they run where they make you pay money to "unlock" things already built into your bike, like a video game or something. No way.
What I would like to know as somebody that wants to get a motorcycle....
From what I've heard talking to other people is that your first bike shouldn't be absurdly powerful.
Which makes complete sense.
You don't want a ridiculous amount of power in the hands of a novice.
Like giving the McLaren to someone that just got their driver's license. Lol
My question is, is that same line of thinking applicable to electric bikes like these because there is no gearing in because they're so smooth? Not that I would necessarily want a crazy amount of power just to have it but because these bikes are more expensive.... that's kind of what I'm getting at.
Was your speedometer on km/h?
No mph
Like it, we drive an EV car but still enjoying the noise of my ICE bike too much to consider this just yet
Thanks will ...me too :)
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Many thanks
Missed the old music intro. It's kinda growing in me.
Haha ...I might bring it back :)
Ok for the city , but touring on it is out the question and charging is to long
Forget my last comment 🤣🤣👍🏻
that bloke getting out the blue van at 12.34 didn,t see or HEAR you riding along......
Yes I know mark someone else pointed that out !!
Cheers
Another good honest review however the piston engine is mans greatest invention I will never buy an electric vehicle of any shape or form.
Ni problem David thanks for the view :)
Ok Boomer.
It’s great bike but 34 mile range with 49% in sports not good I wait for the day when they can do 200 Motorway/freeway speed like add decent tourers do until then it will always be a city runner which is a real shame
Thanks for the comment .. yes hopefully range and price will improve in the future cheers mark
Does the sun EVER shine in England??
Haha if you watch all my other videos you'll see it does :) ... sometimes
Cheers mark
These electric bikes gonna kill all the exhaust manufacturers...
Yes just imagine no akrapovic :(
As others have said cost and range are the stumbling blocks, plus there are too many numbskulls in cars and vans who wouldn’t know you were approaching due to the silent running.
Over priced, I think it's wise to wait until Yamaha, Suzuki etc get into making one
Thanks Carl ...that's my thought :)
First off not my cup of tea as you poms say does anything get hot like a normal bike the drive for instance
Seems a large “tank” for storage nothing is there something else under there
Just seems weird I know this is the future but hope they look better than this fat boy looking thing 😳😵💫😵💫
As always take care stay safe from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺🙂😷👍
Hi no I didn't notice any heat anywhere coming from the bike ...but I'm sure the motor gets warm