Owner Review: Zero SR/F After 2 Years & 10K Miles
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2021
- Just about every motorcycle is a joy to ride on the first day. But what about after two years and 10,000 miles?
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Great review
Love from Scotland 🏴
I had a Zero SR/S myself for a year and a half and was able to ride up to 150 miles in the summer.
The Zero touring windshield and restriction to a maximum of 50 mph helped.
It is important to start riding immediately after charging (i.e. when the battery is warm). That definitely gives you a bit more range.
With the new battery (17.4 Kw/h), you can certainly go up to 185 miles.
I have now traded in my Zero SR/S for a Zero DSR-X!
I hope to be able to take off in April 😀🏍
Congrats on your DSR/X! I haven't ridden one yet but by all accounts it looks like a fantastic bike.
I want to thank Your this video, which includes valuable information that You really need as a daily driver. This is a big difference to the more speed/torque/... focused other channels.
I just bought mine yesterday and will add some of You considerations.
Thanks again and happy riding
Markus
(Austria)
Glad it was helpful!
Concerning the Energica oil change mentioned in the video, I'm sharing this note from Energica owner Morgan Vetter: "Worth noting that with Energica's new EMCE motor and inverter, the oil change shown in Sam's video is drastically different. First, most of the cooling for the motor and inverter has been merged into a shared pool which is a water/glycol mixture recommended to be changed every 26,000 miles.
The ATF oil bath shown in Sam's video has been reduced to a tiny amount that interacts with the gear reduction, and I think they recommend changing that every 18,000 miles. It's also a lot easier now since that reservoir is gone and there's less fluid overall."
You have to remember that you need oil cooling to ride an Energica EGO at 150 mph sustained speed on a German Autobahn! The Zero's only have a sustained speed of 100 mph. Battery and engine get too hot at 125 mph!
You can't legally test this in California, but we can in Germany! 😊
You should change the display under warranty, when there is moisture inside the electronics will also damage slowly and you end up buying a new one when warranty is over. Just don't ask for a claim yet, in june the display should be available that has a fix for this issue. A lot of Zero users have this and it's a manufacturer's fault. Ask your dealer to wait for the fixed display and then have it replaced. Have fun with the Zero, nice video!
Unfortunately my SR/F is already out of warranty (except the battery). I bought it in Dec. 2019.
Hello from a fellow Zero rider over in California! Thanks for the update on your electric riding milestone. Only had my bike a couple of weeks and previously watched every video possible. Glad to see the sr/f still going strong.
Welcome to the joy of EV riding! Here's hoping your Zero treats you well.
How’s the bike now in 2024
Great review and fantastic production quality. Really enjoyed riding with you and the rest of the group today!
Thanks Josh and I look forward to riding with you again sometime soon.
great review of the Zero SR/F .... noticed some familiar scenery in the 904; my hometown
Excellent, fair and no nonsense review. I'm looking at a used near/new livewire, as they are available in the $15k range with low miles. Used Zero's are similar. Zero does have great styling, especially around the tank and small trunk (if you don't opt for the extra battery or faster L2 charger). But I like the overall ride of the LW1 and don't like Zero's cypher policy (try to get you to pay more for options that are all already on the bike just need to be "unlocked"). I abhor that business model. Anyway, great review!
Thanks for the complement and good luck with your search for a LiveWire. Either way you go, EVs are a blast to ride and own.
I'd love to get that bike! Thanks for the great review.
Thanks for watching!
Great video! Perfect for my father-in-law who is expecting delivery of a 2019 SR/F imminently. He’s going the whole hog and having the charge tank fitted to a premium model. Tesco have built a pretty good charging infrastructure at their supermarkets here in the UK. 22kW posts at the larger sites and they’re all free to use.
He'll love it. I wish we had 22kWh Level 2 stations here in the U.S.
Great content. You helped make the decision for me to buy a new SR/F. Sadly it has spent about half its life in the service dealers garages. Charger issues and countless engine codes that cause it to be in limp mode. Only 1000 miles in and it is the least reliable vehicle I have ever owned.
I think I got a lemon. Not sure what to do.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. That sucks. I hope your dealer gets it sorted.
Please explain and educate me on what your learned as I’m thinking of buying this bike in 2024
Nice video, really enjoyed it. Very small nitpick on your comments on the Energica oil change. Those comments from Sam are for older models (which would apply to when you were looking to buy two years ago) but is not entirely reflective of the current models which have a much longer service life and a simpler oil change procedure. But that should take nothing away from your excellent choice and personal experience, your trouble-free bike experience is what the majority experience from buying an electric motorcycle. People looking at buying an electric motorcycle should definitely subscribe and watch all your videos.
Hi Rick, Those are valid points concerning the oil change. Morgan Vetter also pointed out a few of the differences between the Energica Sam had at the time and the new models when it comes to how fluids are handled. I've copied Morgan's Facebook comments over to this UA-cam comments section for folks to check out. I've also updated the copy for the SR/F review story to make clear that things have changed on the new Energica models in regards to oil changes: evrider.tv/owner-review-zero-sr-f-after-2-years-10k-miles/
On my 3rd Zero they are game changers
So why are u on your 3rd?
@@obeii1805 1st was a DS cheap ex demo. I always said "never have an electric bike without traction control it will high side you". Well I was right, 3 days in hospital with brain injury.....bike gone. 2nd Zero SRF (has traction control) I planted it in the rear of a car that one was down to me Im a tw*t. 3rd is SRF with bigger battery, Im just loving this one....now concentrate!
Awesome positive words here. love it! happy subscriber here..
Nice mods you have done to upgrade the bike. The seat looks great
Thanks David. Yea, I've just about got it where I want it now. I just ordered some Cortech luggage for my longer multi-day rides. Next, I'm looking forward to Zero's 7kWh charging firmware upgrade.
Awesome Thanks
Nice motorcycle, hi from the fiero guy from cvs
Thank you for the videos with lots of information regarding the electric bike especially the Zero SR/F. Where did you get the led with the correct resistant? thanks again
Here's what I have but I can't give them a strong recommendation. The left side turn signals go into a hyperflash after about 30 seconds or so. I'm guessing one of the two bulbs on the left side probably has a weak resister. smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B018UWBPK8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
Range anxiety is my biggest fear. On my NC750X, I can go 200 miles and refuel anywhere. If I go out to the dessert, I might not make it back on an EV.
Keith, No question EV motorcycles aren't for everyone yet. The charging infrastructure still has some catching up to do. There are no EV motorcycles on the market yet that can realistically go 200 miles on a charge, although range is improving rapidly. However, touring is certainly possible in many parts of the country. Here's a look at a 671 mile road trip I recently did on my SR/F here in Florida: evrider.tv/671-miles-of-ev-motorcycling-in-florida/
Just got a '23 SR/F and loving it so far. I want to add the risers you posted, and also a larger windscreen. Which windscreen do you have? (btw, great site - thanks for the helpful info)
I have a MRA windscreen. Search "MRA HighwayShield Universal Windshield" & it should come right up. Since your considering the risers, here's an install video I did on them along w/a Amazon link in case it's helpful: evrider.tv/how-to-rox-handlebar-risers-motorcycle-install-on-zero-sr-f/ Thanks for watching my channel!
Thank you! I appreciate your quick response. I'll watch your riser video, because I've been told that they would need to extend the cables and that it would interfere with access to the ignition.@@EVRider
@@jdnolan2962 Unless Zero changed the SR/F handlebars or cabling for 2023, I can't imagine you'd have an issue. But my SR/F is a 2020, so I can't promise something hasn't changed.
I’m planning on buying a 2020 sf, from an owner what do I need to ask of check for that may send me to the dealer! But thx for mentioning the recalls now I’ll google recalls on the model and ask the owner about them
What is the model or part number of the Rox handle bar riser you use? Thank you so much.
Hi Budi, Here are all the details on my Rox, including a product link and an install video: evrider.tv/how-to-rox-handlebar-risers-motorcycle-install-on-zero-sr-f/
Did buy you bike with the optional charger?
It's a beautiful bike, I love that set up
I bought the Premium trim SR/F, so it came with the 6kWh charger. The 2020 base model came with a 3kWh charger. The optional Rapid Charger - which I don't have - would boost it to 12kWh, or 13kWh when added along with Zero's optional Cypher Store upgrade, which is supposed to be available this spring.
It looks a lot like my Yamaha FZ-09...which I like.
I hadn't seen a FZ-09 before. I just looked it up. Good lookin' bike!
Damn 10k on Rosso II?! You need to use that torque! LOL. My SR is on the third set of tires at under 8k miles, the OE Rosso II lasted about 3.5k, got my SR in March of this year.
Yea, I've never gotten this much out of a set of rear tires before. I fully expected the cords to start showing by about 8,5K. They must of slathered on some extra rubber on my set.
@@EVRider I strongly suspect that initial batches of any new tire are made better than later batches, as I seem to always have amazing life on newly released tires that then becomes harder to replicate on subsequent identical tires. So you may be on to something there.
Do you recommend the charger upgrade option ? How many minutes safe the the 6.6 kW option? Thanks Steve
Hi Stefan, If you're referring to 3kW on the base models vs. the 6kW on premium editions, absolutely! Zero also has a Rapid Charger option, which ups your charging speed to 12kWh - or a bit more with the Cypher Store unlock. Charging at the fastest OEM approved speeds is no problem as far as the battery is concerned. However, the Rapid Charger is a pricy option and assuming you're here in the U.S., there aren't many L2 chargers that put out that much current yet. However, there is an aftermarket double j-plug adder it that makes it much more useful. The details on it are in this video: evrider.tv/rapid-charger-accessory-provides-dual-j-1772-zero-sr-f-s-charging/
@@EVRider thanks firstly - no im asking only for the smaler change via cypher store there is a 10% faster chargin option available in europe on the sr/f 2020 onwards.
@@stefanlehmann6723 My guess would be yes, but since I live in the U.S., I can't say with certainty. Perhaps someone else from Europe will weigh in or you can check directly with Zero or your dealer. As to battery safety, I wouldn't be at all concerned, however, what I haven't heard yet is whether Zero will extend the charger warranty for those that opt to get the charger upgrade unlock. Again, pure speculation here, but I'm assuming Zero must have been a little worried about whether the chargers could handle 6.6 kWh charging all the time since they didn't offer it originally but have since determined the chargers are robust enough to constantly handle it. Again, just speculation on my part.
@@EVRider thank you!
How does it handle in cold weather not driving... does it hurt the battery
Hi Kent, I'm in Florida so handling in cold weather doesn't really apply to me personally but I would imagine the answer would be "pretty good" given it has Bosch stability control and ABS. Concerning the battery, yes, I have noticed a range drop of maybe ten miles per charge when it gets into the low 50s. Again, I don't know from personal experience, but I would expect even higher range drops in the 40s and below.
I can tell from experience that driving in cold weahther effects the battery severly at 32 it's about 15% range loss.
Could you give me the link to the windshield? THANKS.
www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mra-highwayshield-universal-windshield?sku_id=1038676
Thanks ! Un salut de France.
What are your thoughts on the SR/S? I would’ve rather gone with it personally but my SR/F is still one of my favorite investments
When I bought my SR/F, the SR/S wasn't around yet. Personally, I like the look of the SR/F more but the SR/S is more comfortable and aerodynamic. To compensate I added handlebar risers, a windshield and the SR/S 's lowered foot pegs to my SR/F. If I were choosing between the SR/F & SR/S today, I'd probably go with the SR/S since it's more of a touring bike without any modifications.
Does it fit in the back of your mini? :)
Not quite but I do tow it with my Mach-E occasionally. evrider.tv/owner-review-ace-foldable-single-rail-motorcycle-trailer/
Looking at these Zero's. Really feel like a 300-400lbs bike is way more fun. Do you feel like these bike bikes feel as heavy as they are? I think my last bike was a 400LBS 600cc sport bike. I have ridden much heavier harleys on rent. Some good deals to be had on 2021 SR/S's and 2022 SR models.
Actually, the (relatively) light weight was one of the things that drew me to the SR/F over other equivalent EV models. Given the SR/F's weight is down low, I'm guessing it will feel similar to your 600cc sport bike in terms of "lightness."