How COMBOS Work in Elden Ring | Elden Ring PvP Guide

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  • @matthewkuni2500
    @matthewkuni2500 6 місяців тому +86

    i’m a simple man. i see rust video, i click, i suck at pvp after anyways.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +15

      Same tho

    • @Thanatos-X-Gaming
      @Thanatos-X-Gaming 6 місяців тому

      That’s so real

    • @Ken_Jones
      @Ken_Jones 6 місяців тому +3

      I just try to mimic Chase the Bro. I still suck, but less 🤣 but I love these technical analysis of Rust

    • @TJ11692
      @TJ11692 6 місяців тому +2

      I tried doing this and I went from losing every invasion to only about half ​@@Ken_Jones

    • @Ken_Jones
      @Ken_Jones 6 місяців тому +1

      @@TJ11692 legend! 👍

  • @WaZeusPvP
    @WaZeusPvP 6 місяців тому +9

    Great work as always 🔥

  • @shadowpieee2322
    @shadowpieee2322 6 місяців тому +40

    rust makes my curved sword go straight frfr

  • @skeleskor
    @skeleskor 6 місяців тому +2

    I see the answer to that unusual poll question now… great content as always, clear and concise. I have improved much because of your videos!

  • @Tesselcraig
    @Tesselcraig 6 місяців тому +22

    We dueled the other day and you were running a throwing dagger with moonveil combo, I KNEW this video was on it's way.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +6

      Yeaaa i kept throwing the dagger too early lmao, i was so sad

    • @Tesselcraig
      @Tesselcraig 6 місяців тому +5

      @@Rust_BKT If I recall I got a pretty filthy parry on you, and frankly I should not have gotten it.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +16

      @@Tesselcraig i have goldfish memory. Was it a double? I seem to remember u wiffed the first i said “surely he wont parry again”. (He did)

  • @deckerdanger4767
    @deckerdanger4767 6 місяців тому +6

    the Running R2 on a straight sword into dagger head shot is interesting to me since I use single straight sword a lot, idk how often I'll use it but its something I need to remember.
    Great video Rust lots of cool things here

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      is that one-handed? cause if so, then i don't see any reason why it shouldn't work when dual wielding too(personally i find the running R2 to be an ok chasedown even when using dual, despite JL1 technically being better)

    • @deckerdanger4767
      @deckerdanger4767 6 місяців тому

      @@iota-09 yeah its the one handed Running R2, what I'm saying is I just like using one straight sword and this will help me compensate for not having two lol

  • @DemonInPain
    @DemonInPain 6 місяців тому +3

    Cant wait to see all the content that comes from this dlc. It’ll be a second wave of ER content and I’m all for tht

  • @littlefunnywithsomemoney
    @littlefunnywithsomemoney 6 місяців тому +2

    you're an important asset to the community, thanks for making these high quality videos 😁

  • @Mr.Elder1
    @Mr.Elder1 6 місяців тому +1

    Headshot combos sound like a very interesting and unique tool to have in your skill kit. I am going to look into this stuff more thanks Rust for the video.

  • @ultimatelegend18
    @ultimatelegend18 4 місяці тому

    That last combo was actually disgusting, here's my sub. Loving the content.

  • @bashking4204
    @bashking4204 6 місяців тому

    Awesome video!
    As a fighting game player i’ve always wondered how i can pull off interesting combo setups like this video. Very well explained!

  • @Nunkuruji
    @Nunkuruji 6 місяців тому +3

    McWiFi true combo 8x-hit ghost strike omae wa mou shindeiru TKO Perfect
    Wonderful work as always, let's see if From undoes it all on patch day 😅

  • @p1ngerss
    @p1ngerss 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you for making these videos

  • @Sleepy_Otter
    @Sleepy_Otter 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for nerding out on this game's PvP mechanics. I'll never be competitive , but I've gotten a thousand hours of joy from colosseum duels and invasions so learning more about the math going on behind the curtain is really enlightening!

  • @cooldudeachyut
    @cooldudeachyut 6 місяців тому +2

    I love that moonlight greatsword is also viable for PvP.

  • @badred3ZZ
    @badred3ZZ 6 місяців тому +1

    Rust. I am waiting for your in depth guide on the new gigachad Deflect tech/mechanism (crystal tear). All the ins & outs with how to use it effectively. Please make a very nerdy video. Thanks🐐

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +2

      This is something i really want to look into, ill definately be getting around to it

    • @badred3ZZ
      @badred3ZZ 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT thanks. I’m noticing it’s kinda OP in PvP already especially against people who just like to mash R1. The counter strike has decent hyperarmor I think + there’s a talisman that boosts guard counters and a 2-hand sword talisman. I’m kinda OP right now and the fact you can put it to use on any weapon with any AOW, all you have to do is block on reflex? Crazy.

    • @badred3ZZ
      @badred3ZZ 6 місяців тому

      The part I’m needing much clarification on is how in some clips on UA-cam of it, it looks like people are just holding block all through a stream of attacks whereas for me in-game it feels like I have to block each attack.

    • @badred3ZZ
      @badred3ZZ 6 місяців тому

      PS: to get it you have to beat the first Fire Golem Giant thing in the Shadowrealm. Stance break it till it falls down 2 or 3 times and then it’s the critical hits that do the most damage.

  • @sesshomaruco
    @sesshomaruco 6 місяців тому +1

    Never thought ER PvP was so complex dayum

  • @KybonTheRenegade
    @KybonTheRenegade 6 місяців тому

    2 Rust videos in a week? Truly Michael Zaki has blessed us all with the upcoming DLC. Ngl tho although Im so excited, I'm a little nervous for how invasions are going to be once everyone has all those awesome new weapons. GGs and great video homie. If only I could be so grossly incandescent

  • @redacap
    @redacap 6 місяців тому

    thanks for another educational video

  • @mastercat8849
    @mastercat8849 6 місяців тому

    Great vids Rust Bucket, they make me improve alot in PvP. But i also know one secret combo nobody knows bout. Combo chuggin. If you crouch while chuggin hp and mp flasks, on crouch they skip changin of bottles animation. You save like 1.5 seconds of time. Enjoy. Found that combo on one of the first days at release still noone noticed it yet.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      (that was shown in the animation cancel video) but thank you ^^

    • @mastercat8849
      @mastercat8849 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT i guess i missed that vid of yours. sorry sensei!

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +2

      @@mastercat8849 imagine missing one of my videos, smh my head

  • @Kodama666
    @Kodama666 6 місяців тому +1

    i wish there was a way to negate to some degree the poise disadvantage u get from not bein at 109+, sometimes i just wanna do a cosplay build and not get stunned by every single thing that hits me, but we push on and prevail

  • @Barebonesboyan
    @Barebonesboyan 6 місяців тому +1

    Oh my god I freaking love rust bucket

  • @nllg1273
    @nllg1273 6 місяців тому

    Sorry if abit off-topic, but @7:20 during the sleep demo is the expanding (hitbox?) the sleep cloud?
    If so, is there a guide on which 'mists' expand over time?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      yea the hitbox viewer is enabled, you were seeing the sleep cloud effect. all of the mist type stuff has an expanding hitbox, as well as some other stuff, but theres not a metric that i know of that i could look up every instance of them.

  • @leoornstein3963
    @leoornstein3963 Місяць тому

    Rare footage of Rust with Haldagg.

  • @iota-09
    @iota-09 6 місяців тому

    huh, had no idea that bloodflame talon combod in so many things if getting damage stun level 1 or 0 through sleep...
    one other reason to love one of my favorite spells 👀

  • @DemonInPain
    @DemonInPain 6 місяців тому

    This content is so confusing to me but I watch it anyway because it’s one of a kind.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      Its unfortunate that alot of this info isnt readily available from what the game teaches you naturally, so its pretty hard to digest. I only just learned about some of these interactions as i was making the video. Its crazy how much there is to learn

  • @GetBodiedSon
    @GetBodiedSon 6 місяців тому +1

    Question 1: Why doesn’t the Maliketh BB ash of war consistently combo? Is this a poise thing? Seems like the first hit only combos into the follow up if it hits super late
    Question 2: can you do a quick follow up video about the stun/poise damage of certain spells? Stone of gurranq, bloodflame talons, dragons talons, great blade phalanx, basically anything with lvl 2 stun or higher
    I really like spellblade builds but I nobody really covers the spell/incant side of these topics

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      im really not at all familiar with most sorceries and incants. i spend the majority of my time just learning the melee mechanics, so i wouldnt be a great person to ask. it will probably be something i get more into with the dlc

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      honestly i'm not sure it would even make sense to make a video on those at this point, in 5 days the dlc and patch come out, and imho poise values will change across the board to accomodate the poor implementation on some weapons and to fit better the new weapons and spells.

  • @MadSekiro
    @MadSekiro 6 місяців тому +2

    So it finally happened and other people discovered my favorite headshot combo with a katana ;) Good video as always.

  • @juancorrea2625
    @juancorrea2625 6 місяців тому

    Im more confused than ever but the practice wont stop 😂🤘🏼!!

  • @FatelessHawk
    @FatelessHawk 3 місяці тому

    ive got a question do i have to have a slight pause before throwing the daggers or can i throw them as soon as i hit my opponent? And do i have to use a fast weapon with this or would i be able to use something like a zweihander so i can do a ton of damage?

  • @GrimmLewis
    @GrimmLewis 6 місяців тому +1

    6:20 oh so that's why . I wondered sometimes how I couldn't use Quickstep when vs multiple ppl blendering me even though it can escape true combos when 1 vs 1

  • @Clawyetta
    @Clawyetta 5 місяців тому +2

    Hm, yes. I am more confused than ever. ^^"

  • @GreatBeaux
    @GreatBeaux 6 місяців тому

    Bro have you found out any important poise values? Or have a few things like shamshir backswing remain unchanged? I can’t figure out if poise is necessary aside from 115 & full goats

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      It just depends on your matchup. 89 for 2h weapons, 115 for 1h, 133 for psss. I need to look into any poise damage value changes for ofher things like spin slash, stormhawk, ect. But ill do a vid eventually, im still waiting on seemless to updatw

  • @Aboobayker
    @Aboobayker 6 місяців тому

    One thing I was hoping to see you explain were the “true combos” of the Warped Axe. Are the r1 into r1 combos all dependent on player position? How can I reliably recreate them?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +3

      Not a combo

    • @Aboobayker
      @Aboobayker 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT oh no 💀nvm thank you

  • @HuehuehueWolooo
    @HuehuehueWolooo 6 місяців тому

    I think we fought recently, while you were making this video.
    It was a good one, but sadly I wasn't in the video 😓
    Thanks for all the info!
    Colossal or halberd combos and pseudos with off hand curved sword are also a menace? Or maybe it's that I don't face good players myself that often.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +2

      Probably, ive been in the arena alot lately, but mostly just fuckin around with stupid shit and trying to see if i can make dumb stuff work. Offhand cs is more of a pressure tool than anything. It keeps people from being comfortable with rolling in against those setups that dont have good keepout

  • @ZzZz-fx7zb
    @ZzZz-fx7zb 4 місяці тому

    For some reason after the DLC update carian spinning weapon into catch flame no longer true combos. Did the add frames to catch flame

  • @Gyno-Mackima
    @Gyno-Mackima 6 місяців тому +1

    Vortex is the best combo ❤️

  • @Er1kth3b00s
    @Er1kth3b00s 6 місяців тому

    What about the Thunderstorm AoW of the Stormhawk axe? Is it a true combo or can you escape it in some way?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      Follow up spins can be escaped if you time a good roll

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT i do know that if slightly delay the WA followups it can be true or near true combo though, is that true?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      @@iota-09 no, pseudo combo. Remember, true means youre unable to roll at all. Pseudo means it roll catches. Stormhawk roll catches if they roll in or to the side

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT hm, i remember tiamat and skampei rollcatching me even with a backwards roll though(meaning it would have fallen in the same category as the carain scepter spnning weapon if that was the case)... i might be wrong tho, guess i'll ask them when i got a chance, i do believe you too after all, and my memory isn't the best anyway.

  • @DedicatedTryhard
    @DedicatedTryhard 6 місяців тому

    Can you explain the three hit combo for Godfrey’s axe? Warcry r2 +offhands. The frame data would suggest that the offhand attack wouldn’t combo.

    • @DedicatedTryhard
      @DedicatedTryhard 6 місяців тому

      Offhand attack combo is with anything 14 frames and faster. Free aimed it can go to 16 frames

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      I havent looked into it specifically but its safe to say that the stomp must not add to the damage count. Same with lightning ram first hit, which combos to ugs, into offdagger

    • @DedicatedTryhard
      @DedicatedTryhard 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT yeah that’s what I figured, is there any known reason why those attacks don’t count?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      @@DedicatedTryhard its intended design, otherwise the opponent would be able to mash out of hitstun and gain priority if you ever used the unique r2. Same with things like spin slash and sword dance. If they had hitstun degradation on each hit, then using the ash would just get yourself killed, becUse the opponent would be able to escape before you were even done with your recovery frames

  • @breez_y1
    @breez_y1 6 місяців тому

    Finally chop halbert r1 has a use over poke halbert

  • @ProdByZSD
    @ProdByZSD 6 місяців тому

    Is the KGS combo turn left on R1(3) supposed to delay it enough that it will reset hit count? Or is it because we've rotated the weapon's initial hitbox? Or has it just never been legit and many players mash?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      Its just cuz that many people mash

  • @RecusantRevan
    @RecusantRevan 6 місяців тому

    Babe wake up, a new RustBkt video dropped

  • @TheDepressedHollow
    @TheDepressedHollow 6 місяців тому

    Is (war cry) giant crusher R2 to R1 a true combo? I find myself encountering instances where my opponent can’t or doesn’t roll away, and some of them manage to escape.
    Could this be a latency thing? Or was it never a true combo in the first place?

    • @m.s6832
      @m.s6832 6 місяців тому

      Sounds like they're mashing r1 or something similar but it doesn't sound like it.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      I dunno the exact frame data on it but i know its supposed to be true. The might be getting hit with an early frame of the r2 into a later frame of the r1, letting them escape. Latency doesnt affect the reliability of a true combo, but how the game reads player position, changing which frame the player is hit by can, and elden ring notoriously does a shit job of tracking player position

  • @UntilxThexSunxDies
    @UntilxThexSunxDies 6 місяців тому

    You can get headshots with CR1 on UGS into another CR1 into another headshot, lol. It's hard to keep them looking at you, but it happens.

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      The combo is cr1-headshot-cr1, but after the second cr1, they can escape due to damage count 2, you cant chain it any longer than that unless their mashing out of hitstun to reset their damage count

  • @ValentinParkourGaming
    @ValentinParkourGaming 6 місяців тому

    Hello Rust, could u teach me how to make hitboxes appear ? I am trying to do some testing but I don"t know how to make the hitbox appear, like what mod is it ?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      Cheat engine. You turn on a function called “damage management” and it enables the hitbox viewer

  • @noway5266
    @noway5266 6 місяців тому

    Does endure reset hitstun and/or poise health like perseverance did in DS3?

  • @eric4885
    @eric4885 Місяць тому

    Can anyone explain to me how sometimes I spam roll but my roll doesnt come out?

  • @andrexskin
    @andrexskin 6 місяців тому +1

    How can you make these guides so detailed that I want to try new things and then make me feel so bad at the game?
    need to git gut more than I need advanced guides I think

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +2

      its all part of the process you know. we're all always learning, the vids are meant to give you the information to help you improve along the way. but everything takes time and practice

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому +1

      it's an art: first you gotta learn the basics and the rules, so that you can later break those rules and actually have fun with what have you.
      (it's unironically why imho the most fun level playing field in these games is medium-high, at that step where people are actually good, but not so much that they'll just tryhard and use only meta setups 24/7, although even some at the top level like frosty do, props to those)

    • @andrexskin
      @andrexskin 6 місяців тому +1

      @@iota-09 It's indeed interesting, It's understandable that from a certain point of view in a medium-high level of skill there's more fun than the top.
      The top knows correctly how to get any advantage from the weapon used and probably know how to exploit the weaknesses of others

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому +1

      @@andrexskin ye
      rust also showed knowing plenty enough to make some offmeta and certain wackier setups work very well, honestly, frosty and him, with the latter coming in later but rapidly climbing up, may have become my favorite players in the pvp scene because of this.

  • @Helleuphoria
    @Helleuphoria 6 місяців тому +2

    Why is the weakest hit stun called level 8?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +4

      No idea, theres “technically” 8 levels of hitstun, but the others are just things like different knockdown thpes, faceplant vs falling on their back kinda thing. Dunno why they made it 8 for those weapons tho, weirdge

  • @tenorsax6896
    @tenorsax6896 6 місяців тому

    wait how did u take no damage from the lighting in the 1st shamshir dual?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      Its the same concept as negative spacing. I just have to strafe it enough to dodge it on their screen. It looks like it hits me on mine but im just walking through the shadow of where it used to be. Watch closely how i strafe in the clip. If you need a better explanation, check the video on spacing, that should clear it up

    • @tenorsax6896
      @tenorsax6896 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT ahhh, ok. I did catch the very subtle jink and just mistook that as an attempted strafe but thought its hitbox would be big enough not to care XD.

  • @Am_Kosmos
    @Am_Kosmos 6 місяців тому +1

    Rusty is the only UA-camr I recommend to learn PvP - he doesn’t like to gate keep as other mfers.

    • @facemouther
      @facemouther 6 місяців тому

      And ChaseTheBro. His content isnt usually educational but he still explains his builds or the trick he's using. I learned a lot from just watching him play

  • @NoriGhiza
    @NoriGhiza 6 місяців тому +2

    Wiwi

  • @xjustbecuzx
    @xjustbecuzx 6 місяців тому

    UGH I loved my spinning weapon staff you just brought attention to it 😭 time for nerf

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      It needed to happen

  • @nighwargallogrifuvap
    @nighwargallogrifuvap 6 місяців тому

    Bro I was thinking the same thing

  • @MarcelMuller-yf5rh
    @MarcelMuller-yf5rh 6 місяців тому

    So you cant true combo the second r1 of the knight's greatsword? That would explain why i almost never hit it

    • @MarcelMuller-yf5rh
      @MarcelMuller-yf5rh 6 місяців тому

      Does the jumping r1 into r1 combo?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +5

      I think you might have gotten confused somewhere. Yes jr1-r1 is true. Yes, r1(2)-r1(3) is true. No, jr1-r1(2)-r1(3) is not true

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT about JR1s btw, is there any known true combo using stored R1 1s?(when due to stamina mismanagement the follow up R1 to an JR1 isn't an R12, but an R1 1)

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      @@iota-09 i know the storage glitch ur refering to. I dont know of any that exist. Maybe last frame jr1 of ugs into first frame r1, but i havent tested. Ultimately you never want to position yourself to deplete your stamina in the first place, so its not worth setting up anyway

  • @itsjusttony4906
    @itsjusttony4906 6 місяців тому

    why is your healthy not going down? UI or something i have no idea about. and why spin?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +2

      Theres a hidden mechanic in the game where if you dont get hit, then you dont take damage. Spinning is fun, so therefore, spin

  • @gabrielokeefe3695
    @gabrielokeefe3695 6 місяців тому

    Yo rusty will you do some pve content for the DLC, good vid btw🍔

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      I havent decided. I might stream it or upload something if i think its really interesting, but for the most part the YT will stay focused on pvp

  • @DCCLXII
    @DCCLXII 6 місяців тому

    He just like me Fr

  • @iota-09
    @iota-09 6 місяців тому

    now watch as half of these true combos don't work anymore in patch 1.11.1...
    (1.11 was played in the redbull event and it was buggy af, so i'm betting we'll get a 1.11.1 or 1.12)

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      Yea 1.11 looked really unfinished, i cant wait to see all the random shit they break xD

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT yeah i imagine them to rework poise and recovery frames quite a lot... Also have you seen sabaku's side of the playtest? I managed to make him show jr1->r1 2 of milady which felt like hts jump combo in terms of speed, fists 1 handed and odachi one handed, the latter seeming much more usable than when 2-handed(but most surely not having hyper armor)

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      @@iota-09 im really hoping they change the frame that you can r1 from hitstun, but we will se what they impliment

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 6 місяців тому

      @@Rust_BKT i kinda hope they add 1-2 recovery frames to the 2h rapiers... You can punish far too safely with those against some setups without them being daggers

  • @Banana-senpai
    @Banana-senpai 6 місяців тому

    Gigasthiccas' "try not to call every mediocre followup a true combo" Challenge (impossible)

  • @aDarcone
    @aDarcone 6 місяців тому

    : o

  • @LegionUwUDbD
    @LegionUwUDbD 6 місяців тому

    aaa

  • @stuckstepsis6976
    @stuckstepsis6976 6 місяців тому +1

    I appreciate this kind of content, but I just can't take pvp in this game seriously. It's so utterly braindead. Worst fromsoft pvp by far, and the dlc is just going to make it worse

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +2

      No ones asking you to take it seriously, have fun with it, do weird shit, create funny builds and come up with cool synergies. If you want to take it seriously then dont do it in the ranom arena, go to ladder where all the braindead shit is banned

  • @lexclouds7562
    @lexclouds7562 6 місяців тому +1

    My take: combos do not exist

    • @DemonInPain
      @DemonInPain 6 місяців тому +2

      Can you explain why? Or you just yapping?

    • @lexclouds7562
      @lexclouds7562 6 місяців тому +1

      @@DemonInPain latency™

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому +1

      latency doesnt affect combos, only lag does

  • @CapDayne_Levi
    @CapDayne_Levi 6 місяців тому

    Very informative video as always Rust! You and WaZeus have normalized headshots so I’m curious what’s your opinion on free aimed ones?

    • @Rust_BKT
      @Rust_BKT  6 місяців тому

      Some people have made really good use of free aimed ones and im always blown away with how consistsnt they can be. The people that i know who do it are KBM though and i play controller, still possible but alot harder