Trans World Airlines. Where is TWA's Fleet in 2023?
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- What happened to Trans World Airline's Fleet? Through a lot of research, I was able to find several aircraft that once served this legendary airline.
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Delta is just a refugee camp for TWA planes, I guess.
You are right. I could not believe how many former TWA aircraft I found at Delta. I knew about the 717s but I did not realize they got the 757s.
@@NickFliesMedia this is a great vid. You should do another vid like this one on pan am and eastern airlines
@@NickFliesMediaAmerican didn’t really want them since there weren’t that many and the rest of their 757’s had RR’s. American didn’t really want anything to do with TWA. Pretty poor timing. Of course hindsight is 20/20.
Delta knows a deal when they see one. They have great maintenance and can get great productivity from airplanes.
I got a hold of one of TWA's 747's after they filed chapter 11 and stared doing flights from Newark to JFK with a stop at LaGuardia.. I made millions but I had to stop because I just couldn't keep up with the demand. Sold if to Delta. Have no idea what they did with it.
Very cool. My dad worked for TWA for 43 years. To say TWA was an impactful part of my childhood would be an understatement, good and bad. I love seeing those TW registrations out there!
I bet both of you have some amazing stories. I miss seeing TWA flying myself. It is always a joy seeing one of their aircraft still out there.
Thank you for sharing. I miss flying on TWA aircraft from back then in the late 1980s and early 1990s.😊😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dang your old (joke)
I remember flying on United back in the 1970s. My parents had divorced and so my father had moved to New York. So, I spent a few of my summers there. I do love flying.
@LMays-cu2hp oh I'm sorry to here that :( but what planes were I'm service back then?????
I started flying on the old 727s, DC-9s and the DC-8s were some if the older aircraft that I flew on. Then the old airline Eastern had the Miami to the Caribbean trips on the L-1011s.
I miss TWA beyond words could convey. I cried throughout the video. 😢 AA did no justice to TWA after the merger.
When I was 12 on August 19, 1961 I flew with my family from LGA to MDW on a TWA Super G. I recall the stops were at Pittsburgh and Cleveland and finally Midway at Chicago, ORD ,was not yet fully operational. I recall the marketing TWA people calling the service " AMBASSADOR", I did not feel like an ambassador as we arrived at around 2;30 in the AM. I am 74 now and hold that flight in my heart as it originated in Sao Paulo, Brazil the day before in a VARIG Super G Constellation!
That is a really great story. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for sharing your memories on a Lockheed Super G Constellation! Wow!! Making those two stops back then just to get to here to Chicago. The Super G aircraft are so beautiful. There a few of them still being care. There are a few UA-cam people that have shared them. Well, for me, I miss the L-1011s flying them on the long-haul trips to Los Angeles to see family. I had a couple of family members whole worked for TWA from back in middle 1980s until the merger with American Airlines. One uncle stayed during the merger but be other family member, a very nice aunt did not stay. Life in this airline industry goes up and down. Oh well! ☺ Smile
I am retired (75) used to be telecom engineer, but I just love airplanes, used to travel a lot and miss the old TWA, Braniff, Pan Am, Eastern, and besides the G, my favorite always was the DC-10, almost a brother of your L-1011, best regards to you!@@LMays-cu2hp
There's one aircraft you forgot about, 4X-BYD. A Boeing 707-131 that once flew for TWA without being converted to the -120B standard and the only JT3C-powered 707 left in the world, sits in Israel.
OH wow! I did not catch that one!
I didn't realise the QantasLink 717s were former TWA (I had known they had been purchased off of American Airlines). I haven't personally flown on one (as the QantasLink flight I most often flew was covered by the Dash 8 turboprop) but I have seen them around
I did not realize it either until I began to look into it. The Dash 8 would be a fun ride. I knew about all of the Delta (former AirTran ones.) I was surprised Delta got the 757s and not American but that might have been a later transaction? You'll have to catch a QantasLink one at some point!
I got a hold of one of TWA's 747's after they filed chapter 11 and stared doing flights from Newark to JFK with a stop at LaGuardia.. I made millions but I had to stop because I just couldn't keep up with the demand.
I was 11 years old in 1988. And remember flying on TWA 747 from Heathrow to Los Angeles
I miss TWA. I flew on them several times. It was always in an L 1011 and the service has a rule was very good.
They were a great airline. So much history. The world lost a great one.
@@NickFliesMedia I absolutely agree with you. The wrong person got control of the airline .I would love to have seen TWA merge with Eastern Airlines.That combo would have the critical mass for a great airline. Eastern’s north-south and Caribbean/Latin America route network ,combined with TWA‘s east-west network and its routes to Europe ,from their Kennedy hub would be hard to beat.Not forgetting TWA’s routes to LHR from BOS,ORD, LAX,and PHL in addition to their LHR flights from Kennedy.
Love your Trans World video, i never flew TWA ,i have some beautiful TWA models.
Thank you!
I loved flying TWA. I flew TWA for the first time in 1974 when I was a boy going to Hawaii. THen in 1990, I flew to NYC from STL on an L1011. Love that airline !
That is a great story! :)
great video, thanks for putting this together.
Thank you so much!
This airline, where to begin. I loved traveling with them from that fabulous terminal at JFK. The place made you feel as if you were some VIP about jet set to some exotic place on the other side of the world! Those huge 747's, L1011's, friendly & smiling flight attendants, meals, drinks, etc. How the hell does a company so big go from carrying more than 50 percent of the passenger traffic across the Atlantic & beyond at one point, from having a hub operation in Europe that brutally competed and crushed domestic airline operations from those very nation states, to owning Hilton Hotels & resorts as well as other entities (late sixties into the early seventies) through its parent Trans World Corporation, to several bankruptcies just a few years later ??? Some very bad calls were made from the higher ups of this company that tanked this once gem of a brand into history. There will never be another like it, I miss them dearly.
That Is Such An Amazing Story Buddy🤩👍👏✈️🇺🇸!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
My very first flight was on a TWA Boeing 707! It was a charter flight from O'hare to Las Vegas back in 1978 and was in an all coach layout. Even though it was a charter the plane had plenty of legroom and had nicely padded seats. A hot meal was served and I remember the flight attendants passing out magazines and decks of cards....I still have those cards! Great airline with friendly attentive staff!
That is a great story! Oh to go back to the days of planes with legroom and amenities.
And next year in 1979 my second flight was on an Eastern Airlines DC-9-30 from O'hare to Daytona Beach in a roomy bulkhead seat in coach. They served a small steak and a glass of champagne. The DC-9 toward the front was very quiet and the seats well padded and comfortable.
Very good video. Just a note: the Constellation displayed in front of the TWA Hotel at JFK (min. 01:46) is not exactly a restaurant but more of a cocktail bar. From the hotel main entrance, by simply walking up the short stairs in front of you, then going past the main lobby up to the left, and finally exiting to the open air area at the back of the hotel, you can easily reach the aircraft, climb inside and also visit the cockpit. Perfectly preserved and restored.
Thank you for more information on that. I haven't had a chance to check it out yet but hope to this summer. It sounds like you had a great experience there!
@@NickFliesMedia thanks Nick - yes I did, and if you’ve got the chance, stay at the hotel overnight. There’s a rooftop pool with great views on runways 22 (L and R) / 4 (L and R) and you can spend hours watching take-offs and landings (directly from the pool, which is outdoors but well heated). The whole building of course is amazing: it’s the historical TWA Terminal, greatly restored. Keep making videos like this one!
Great Vid, brings me back to my youth growing up in the 60s and 70s . When you come this way, the Twa Hotel and the Lockheed lounge is a must 🤜🤛🗽
Glad you enjoyed it! The TWA Hotel is probably the top of the bucket list for me. I remember flying on TWA quite a bit when I was younger but never got to experience the golden age in the 60s and 70s.
I got a hold of one of TWA's 747's after they filed chapter 11 and stared doing flights from Newark to JFK with a stop at LaGuardia.. I made millions but I had to stop because I just couldn't keep up with the demand.
Rest in peace For All Passages And Crew For Disaster TWA Flight 800
I still remember where I was that night. It was a heartbreaking day.
What about the 727s? I can't believe you left those out. I realize most are gone but it would have been nice to have those documented in this video.
Believe it or not I couldn’t find any that survived. I tried several different websites to no avail. It’s certainly possible they’re out there I just couldn’t find any. Maybe some of the FedEx birds parked around the country are former TWA
There is but a handful of 727’s operating anywhere in the world now.
I got a hold of one of TWA's 727's after they filed chapter 11 and stared doing flights from Newark to JFK with a stop at LaGuardia.. I made millions but I had to stop because I just couldn't keep up with the demand.
You know what TWA? Travel With America. That's what the pilot used to say in the early 80's after we landed. Such a wonderful sense of humor. I miss those days where you had a special touch unlike today's airlines and airports rush.
I love that "Travel With America." I had never heard that before. It is a shame how much air travel has changed over the years. It is cheaper but a lot has been lost over the years.
N129TW is NOT a 747-131. It is a 747-128, originally delivered to Air France. -131s were built to TWA specs and -128s were built to Air France specs, the last two digits being the Boeing customer code.
N129TW was one of the decrepit old “Twisted Sisters”…a small batch of used, decrepit 1970s vintage second-hand 747s TWA acquired in the mid-90s to support increased fljghts. These aircraft were notorious for mechanical problems.
That is good to know. I just grabbed the -131 from somewhere but it is interesting that it was former Air France. It is kind of ironic that one of the problem childs is the last TWA 747 still in its former livery.
I live in vegas and i have seen that 747 at sands corp before
That is awesome! I bet you get to see a lot of really cool things. A bucket list trip for me. The Sand Corp 747 is gone now unfortunately, off to its new home in Kansas City
How come i still see it?
My grandpa was a pilot on a twa 747😢
Oh wow that is really cool. I bet he had some amazing stories to tell.
N703TW [757] will be pulled from service sometime this year [2024] and retired. DL should repaint this aircraft and donate it to the TWA hotel and put it up on a pedestal. I don't think the hotels ramp area could handle both the Connie and the 757. Just a thought.
That would be cool! A nice tribute for sure to both airlines.
3:24 RIP TWA Flight 800
may they rest in peace.
My Dad worked for TWA as an electro-mechanic then leadman. Retired in the 90s with over 25years in. He was around to watch Carl Icon strip the company down and sell off the shell to the employees.
It is so sad what happened to TWA. Between Carl stripping it down, only for it to begin to recover and then TWA800 happening. Losing Pan Am, TWA and Eastern are major losses to our history.
@@NickFliesMedia I suppose life happens like that but it made my dad sick to watch the prime routes and gate space being sold off and the planes sold to one of his holding companies for cheap then leased back. I hadn't realized that Flight 800 had anything to do with it but now that you mention it, it makes sense. Center fuel tank my behind.
I remember flying back to the U.S. from Germany back in Sept 85. It was a 747, eerily similar to the one that was lost in 98. I also remember in July of 85, I flew with Japan Air Lines out of Narita on 747 heading back to the States. That same year, a Japan Air Lines 747 crashed in a Japanese mountain. :-(
That would be eerie to look back on. Its actually incredible looking back at commercial aviation even in the 90s compared to today and look at the number of accidents that happened back then.
Fascinating. Most of the 717s and the 757s are in service with Delta now which loves reusing old aircraft - much cheaper than buying new.
Oh yeah. Delta will fly them until the wings fall off too.
@@NickFliesMedia True. They just announced a Boeing purchase and a Airbus purchase so the writing is on the wall for both of those planes in the next 5 to 8 years.
Man.
I wish TWA literally came back and I get a chance to fly it.
I wish! I guess the closest we can ever get is a ride on the AA/TWA retro 737.
The N129TW was scrappped in 2020.
Edit: probably turned into a plane tag
Most of it is still there actually. Someone just posted a tour they took recently I think on Facebook and it still appeared to be intact, especially the interior. I am sure it won't be around much longer though. You can purchase plane tags from it though. They removed a section from the tail to about the wing root to make the tags.
Lockheed Vega 5-c NR105W "Winnie Mae" was never a TWA aircraft. It carried mail for TWA during one of Wiley Post's attempted trips around the world.
The picture associated with Douglas DC-3 NC1945 is actually DC-2 N1934D, which you immediately showcase after NC1945.
Lockheed L-1049H N6937C isn't airworthy and the Airline History Museum hasn't conducted engine runs in more than 10 years. The only military or civilian Connie regularly flying right now is VH-EAG, a C-121C based in Australia. There are two more being restored and are nearly flight-ready: N422NA, a VC-121A that used to ferry General Douglas MacArthur around; and N9643, another VC-121A that was the first U.S. Air Force aircraft to use the callsign 'Air Force One."
Thank you for the update! I didn't realize N9643 was former TWA so I will need to update that. You are right about Winnie Mae, but since it carrier for TWA I wanted to include it.
N9643 isn't former TWA, but rather is a Constellation undergoing restoration to flying condition.
American Airlines all 757s, including ones from TWA merger. Delta acquired most and became largest 757 operator.
It sounds like they plan on holding on to them for a long time too!
I seen N651GT irl a few times!
That is awesome!
@@NickFliesMedia same for N650GT. I saw that one too.
Nah bro any aircraft that started in “Lockheed L-“ in TWA’s fleet like the L-1049 looks cool
Agreed!
Live 1 and a half hours from twas home town Kansas City
That is really cool! You going to Airliners International this summer?
maybe
@@NickFliesMedia
It’s so sad how being a 15 year kid I am, I have never experienced TWA or PAN AM
I am a little older than that but I didn't get to experience them either. One of my big regrets.
i feel the same way.
Never flew twa
My dad worked for Ozark for 13 years my mom's friend works for American lot of memories
Thats a great story!
People who missed TWA and you who flown on it befor it rertiered
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i feel sad that i never got to ride on twa or pan am,but i went to the twa hotel as a new yorker,and i got to board the lockeed aircraft,i am muslim so i dont drink but they allowed us to go during that time...we took a few photos,it felt nostalgic even though i was 10 at that time.i am 11 now,maybe they can get revived one day.
As long as AA owns the branding for TWA it is very unlikely that it ever makes a comeback (but we can enjoy the TWA retro livery at least.) I hear that hotel is amazing. I didn't get to ride on TWA either but I do remember seeing their aircraft at the gate. Oh to go back in time.
@@NickFliesMedia thats nice..but if the twa branding could be posibbly be purchased by another company...it can be possible to be brought back.
I.,,worked,for,TWA,for,,38,WonderfulYears.in.ST.Louis,Missouri..,traveled.to.29 couhntries.
I bet you have some amazing stories!
Carl Icahn!
Horrible person.
I am familiar with many aircraft models... just sayin'
That is awesome!
where and what is THR
Mehrabad International in Tehran, Iran. There is a good chance those are gone by now.
I regret having chosen to not fly on TWA between 1982 & 2001 - my Big mistake 🙃🤯🤪🙄✈️
Same here. We've lost so much over the years.
I stopped flying TWA after they disbanded.
Bro you add iran air force one
Did I really? I missed that one in the description but I wouldn't be surprised if it was!
Twa planes make feel unconforable idk why
Tf delta why u takin TWA
Convair 880, not corvair
Yes, not Corvair......the plane did not have the engines in the back......wink....wink....to all you Corvair fans!😄
How did an American plane get into the hands of the Iranian air force
Things were different back in the times when they acquired them I would imagine. I believe even now Iran Air uses older American and European aircraft due to sanctions.
2:55 why is it American
It was the hybrid AA/TWA merger livery they came up with
@@NickFliesMedia oh ok
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I got a hold of one of TWA's 747's after they filed chapter 11 and stared doing flights from Newark to JFK with a stop at LaGuardia.. I made millions but I had to stop because I just couldn't keep up with the demand.
Hope you had your hack license.
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boeing 747-200
Flight 800☠️
TWA Flight 800 💀💀
It was a part of TWA's history and this particular air frame has been responsible for many advancements in aviation safety, NTSB accident investigator training and of course was one of the final nails in TWA's coffin so I wanted to include it. It was scrapped in 2021 after 25 years, but fully mapped in 3D to be used to continue educating accident investigators in the future.
@@NickFliesMedia But that was the Worst Crash in aviation history in terms of the way it happened and the experience which the passengers had on it still gives me chills💀
Isn't it supposed to be American Airlines
I was honestly surprised how much of TWA's fleet ended up at Delta after the merger. I really thought AA would have the majority of it, but since the merger AA retired their A300s, 757s and 767s so that could be some of it. I knew the 717s went to Delta (via AirTran) but I didn't realize they got so many of the 757s.
@@NickFliesMedia well thank you for the information
Well and know i guess Trans World Airlines is just an American Airlines Company
Good bye twa
It's kind of hard to forget who you are!!!
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I'm still alive here in Gateway Greens, Fort Myers, Florida. !
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I dislike videos with bad music quality, reading limited screen narratives that move too fast.
Very fast video can’t read
That was something I was afraid of. I may redo it and slow it down at some point.
Go to the gear icon in the lower margin you can set a slower play back speed
If you want to read something you can just pause the video.
yes, just hit the space bar@@williamwilkins3084
TWA was an awesome airline!! Too bad American Airlines didn't keep the airline flying. I also lost my frequent flyer mileage in the merger!! 👎
That’s a shame that they didn’t grandfather your miles!
@@NickFliesMedia thanks! American Airlines only gave one year to use the mileage.
The minute American took over TWA I received a letter saying they would no longer be honoring my retirement pass benefits.😢
@@Ivehadenuff shame on American Airlines!
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