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  • Опубліковано 12 кві 2018
  • As commercial American aviation grew, Pan American Airways was a shining star. An airline that brought the country into the jet age and pioneered technology into the industry. A true beacon of family flying and ultra luxury... that all came to an end in 1991. But why?
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  • @BrightSunFilms
    @BrightSunFilms  5 років тому +501

    Bankrupt - TWA ua-cam.com/video/sBI8rZn3fqM/v-deo.html

    • @Armin2U
      @Armin2U 5 років тому +8

      I like that video, but this one is my personal favorite.

    • @abcdef53015
      @abcdef53015 5 років тому +11

      Bright Sun Films the Boeing DC 4??? That’s like saying the airbus boeing 747. Makes no sense. DC is its own brand.

    • @dolphinsandislanders6291
      @dolphinsandislanders6291 5 років тому +1

      abcdef53015 dc became Boeing

    • @Fede_99
      @Fede_99 5 років тому

      I have an idea for another episode
      Bankrupt - Sabena

    • @agentpiggles6685
      @agentpiggles6685 5 років тому +1

      no joke i get a banrupt commercial thing

  • @FaridShahidinejad
    @FaridShahidinejad 4 роки тому +2935

    I remember when I was 5, the PanAm pilot gave me a little model plane and PanAm branded deck of cards and then showed me the cockpit. I also remember being very comfortable and happy about flying. Those were the days.

    • @notevenrose3243
      @notevenrose3243 4 роки тому +156

      Ugh imagine how nice that would be now, instead United drags people off planes, American Airlines has too many delays, and delta... well who knows

    • @bowenwheatley9508
      @bowenwheatley9508 4 роки тому +7

      rosie the riveter jet blu is my family’s go to

    • @belhanzhang1453
      @belhanzhang1453 4 роки тому +4

      Man your lucky

    • @davidgarcia8781
      @davidgarcia8781 4 роки тому +20

      Once, when flying with Avianca from MIA to MDE the pilot invited me to the cockpit ant let me see the landing from there, it was amazing

    • @tjdarkrage6693
      @tjdarkrage6693 3 роки тому +51

      Did he ask you if you've ever seen a grown man naked? (Airplane! reference)

  • @elizabethfrohn-hengst296
    @elizabethfrohn-hengst296 6 років тому +3522

    I'm so sorry for that Stewart and his fiancee it must have been destroying to see her name on that list

    • @karicherrycola
      @karicherrycola 6 років тому +298

      Elizabeth Frohn-hengst I was really hoping his story wasn't going to end that way, but I knew it would 😣

    • @athnuachan119
      @athnuachan119 6 років тому +419

      Elizabeth Frohn-hengst especially written in pencil, meaning she shouldn't have been on that flight

    • @atticusbrown9154
      @atticusbrown9154 5 років тому +61

      I take it that that was the manifest, considering everyone onboard died.

    • @davidliu2243
      @davidliu2243 5 років тому +17

      Why was it in pencil though?

    • @Patmofar
      @Patmofar 5 років тому +179

      @@davidliu2243 Because she was a last minute addition to the manifest.

  • @bd5av8r1
    @bd5av8r1 2 роки тому +869

    A friend of mine was serving with the Army in Germany. Due to problems with out processing he missed his departing flight. The flight he missed was the flight that perished over Lockerbie.

    • @notobamabossagming4890
      @notobamabossagming4890 Рік тому +69

      he is lucky

    • @czr1238
      @czr1238 Рік тому

      Who fuckin cares

    • @eefthehoohee2238
      @eefthehoohee2238 Рік тому

      @@czr1238Quit looking for attention all the damn time. You should know well enough anyone with common sense would care if someone miraculously avoided death.

    • @serverbf100mr
      @serverbf100mr Рік тому +24

      Pan am 103 would've haven 271 fatalities then

    • @skeped8797
      @skeped8797 Рік тому +20

      @@notobamabossagming4890 luck isn’t real, God is, do not believe in luck it is a sin.

  • @Kardia_of_Rhodes
    @Kardia_of_Rhodes 4 роки тому +773

    When I see the scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey that shows Pan Am as the leader in Commercial Space Flight, I can't help but feel a sense of wonder and amazement. As if I've been transported into an alternate universe, a future that could have been.

    • @galactic-visitoretxavarria1674
      @galactic-visitoretxavarria1674 4 роки тому +13

      Exactly!!!.I was ready to write my comment about "2.001 A Space Odyssey" & its link with the so iconic & globally admired Pan-Am,but I just found out about your comment!!!.I agree 100%!!!.

    • @jonj4357
      @jonj4357 4 роки тому +2

      Kubrick never saw Elon Musk or Richard Branson coming

    • @Volodimar
      @Volodimar 3 роки тому +10

      It also featured soviets Aeroflot, which exists to this day.

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 3 роки тому +4

      @@Volodimar Except the Soviet does not exist anymore, during the cold war many future history failed to recognize the possibility that world politics would change fundamentally from the East-West block, except sometimes China and/or Japan was added.

    • @Volodimar
      @Volodimar 3 роки тому +9

      @@57thorns Where I stated, that Soviets exist? Aeroflot exists to this day, I wrote. Which makes your comment even more ironic - Pan Am is no more, but Aeroflot is.

  • @bonniemacevoy
    @bonniemacevoy 4 роки тому +655

    One more thing that hurt. Pan Am had only international routes when the fuel crisis hit. Airlines around the world, including domestic US, got subsidized fuel. Without domestic flights, Pan Am did not get this benefit, which served to magnify their losses compared to other carriers. By the time they gained links to domestic service, they were way behind the 8-ball and never really recovered. Then terrorists seemed to target Pan Am because it was so iconic and symbolized the West; the rest is history.

    • @dknowles60
      @dknowles60 2 роки тому +24

      Pan Am use to many 747's. many routes could have go by with a Dc8 63

    • @ACoolKidsProduction
      @ACoolKidsProduction Рік тому +40

      The irony of an airline who's name was short for "Pan-American" having no domestic flights!"

    • @alexg5107
      @alexg5107 Рік тому +6

      @@ACoolKidsProduction Lmao that's true

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 Рік тому +7

      And then they acquired the wrong carrier...National Airlines (whose network was north south). As for why Pan Am...they were seen as the de facto US flag carrier.

    • @celebrityrog
      @celebrityrog Рік тому

      Which is why in 2001 the terrorists went with American and United both of which are looked at as the flag carrier of America and the West in general. Statement heard loud and clear.

  • @TheGreatBirchTree
    @TheGreatBirchTree 6 років тому +315

    Although their bankruptcy is tragic, perhaps there is some good in it. Pan Am was _the_ airline to fly, and if they were around today sadly I don't think that would be the case. They met their demise without compromising their customer experience, which in a way is a noble way to go. You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Pan Am died a "hero" in the heart of the aviation community.

    • @acegarcia3719
      @acegarcia3719 6 років тому +13

      CommandMan7 I do agree that their quality wouldn't be as cutting edge because they would have to price match, but I think it would still be above average similar to the modern middle East carriers like Qatar or Eiarmates.

    • @PoliticalWeekly
      @PoliticalWeekly 4 роки тому +2

      watershed44 are there any examples of airlines like these?

    • @PoliticalWeekly
      @PoliticalWeekly 4 роки тому +1

      rosslosangeles how bad was it?

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 Рік тому +3

      @@acegarcia3719 -- Emirates is still really a hub and spoke airline. They're basically Icelandair but on steroids based on their location (because they're about halfway between the central business area of Europe and India/Thailand, and can connect on to Australia).

    • @xenomorphbiologist-xx1214
      @xenomorphbiologist-xx1214 8 місяців тому +2

      United lived long enough to see themselves become the villain

  • @deniseshephard3347
    @deniseshephard3347 Рік тому +217

    My sincere condolences to that Gentleman’s Fiancé it’s very brave of him to tell how things were for him and the other people still suffering to this day

  • @LouLope
    @LouLope 4 роки тому +2492

    Long time ago, when people actually bathed before boarding a plane.

    • @HFSswfl
      @HFSswfl 4 роки тому +19

      Lou Lopez this!!!!

    • @sillygoose635
      @sillygoose635 4 роки тому +32

      still do.

    • @alexander1485
      @alexander1485 4 роки тому +94

      imagine a flight where you are the only one and everyone else is indian :P

    • @michaelstone1047
      @michaelstone1047 4 роки тому +17

      Flew on Peoples Express from Newark to Oakland around Dec 29 or 30. It was full of "dead heads", it was pretty rank

    • @matthewburris769
      @matthewburris769 4 роки тому +9

      @@alexander1485.... @ Alex1485 what was just as bad?...1978, boarding a connecting flight in Honolulu bound from Samoa and Tonga to L.A.

  • @ColonelFrontline1152
    @ColonelFrontline1152 5 років тому +352

    As soon as PAN-AM died a piece of America's Soul Died with it.

    • @matthewburris769
      @matthewburris769 4 роки тому +26

      and the seats started shrinking, meals disappearing, on-flight behavior worsening, hidden costs and charges proliferating, flight attendants attitudes worsening.

    • @frother
      @frother 4 роки тому +6

      @@matthewburris769 And most Americans, I'm sure, would have loved reading in magazines about how lovely Pan-Am's flights were, because they would never have been able to afford experiencing them in person. When it was a monopoly Pan-Am kept ticket prices sky high, and as soon as its monopoly was broken it couldn't compete at all without their fat, fat profit margins draining the life out of Americans with every ticket.

    • @RealVidjag
      @RealVidjag 4 роки тому +1

      @Sad Trophy Wife no need to get political

    • @RealVidjag
      @RealVidjag 4 роки тому

      @Sad Trophy Wife I know

    • @joshuapatrick682
      @joshuapatrick682 3 роки тому

      Yeah the fascist part. Pan Am was a corporate behemoth only because it’s relationships and support of key figures in government. That’s the literal definition of fascism.

  • @tylerkilarski5831
    @tylerkilarski5831 5 років тому +310

    7:05 this dude is legit filling up his lawn mower at the gas station

  • @drewintampa
    @drewintampa 11 місяців тому +65

    I got hired by PAN AM as a flight attendant right before their demise. Being hired by PAN AM was a pretty big deal back then and I was super excited. No one thought this giant could ever be touched. Sad to see her gone from the skies. She was in trouble in 1988 and then flight 103 was bombed in the sky. We never recovered. The PAN AM logo was the 2nd most recognized symbol in world. Coke being the first.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 9 місяців тому +2

      The writing was on the wall it would would fail well before 103. Just kinda finished them off.

  • @RealVidjag
    @RealVidjag 4 роки тому +1355

    US airport: *fails to detect terrorist*
    US government: it was pan am's fault

    • @starwing0
      @starwing0 4 роки тому +165

      That flight took off from London, and airlines were responsible for their own security

    • @rickfeng4466
      @rickfeng4466 4 роки тому +42

      UK airport, 103's last stop was Heathrow

    • @aestheticdegen
      @aestheticdegen 4 роки тому +15

      it's not the job of the government to provide security for corporations

    • @aestheticdegen
      @aestheticdegen 4 роки тому +4

      @Jay Talents how is it not free?

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 4 роки тому +8

      @@rickfeng4466 ……..I thought it's last 'stop' was Lockerbie

  • @TrinityCourtStudios
    @TrinityCourtStudios 5 років тому +811

    I’m a Pan Am employee!! (For Pan Am Railways. I even have an ID with the logo on it which is pretty cool) 😊

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  5 років тому +154

      Thanks pretty cool!

    • @LeviRamsey
      @LeviRamsey 4 роки тому +36

      Pan Am Rail at one point ran an airline which resurrected the Pan Am airline branding, flying out of Portsmouth, NH.

    • @tsargaming4740
      @tsargaming4740 4 роки тому +12

      if im correct they bought the name and logo right
      they are a holding company for railroads

    • @addust
      @addust 3 роки тому +1

      @@LeviRamsey ;-;

    • @Matterhorny
      @Matterhorny 3 роки тому +6

      Frank Abagnale was a Pan Am employee, too

  • @YosenBMamma
    @YosenBMamma 5 років тому +657

    I don't care what the building says on top. It's still *_The Pan Am Building_* to me!

    • @jamesfan2
      @jamesfan2 4 роки тому +6

      👌🏻

    • @barryhill6727
      @barryhill6727 4 роки тому +60

      Just like it will always be the Sears Tower and not the Willis Tower.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 роки тому +8

      Yep, some buildings are just iconic with their original names. It will takes generations till the old names fade away.

    • @as-guardianangel9360
      @as-guardianangel9360 4 роки тому +8

      Just like the Elizabeth Tower is still Big Ben

    • @3John-Bishop
      @3John-Bishop 4 роки тому +4

      It will always be the Pan Am building to me.

  • @tommcintyre2963
    @tommcintyre2963 4 роки тому +172

    Pan American still exists today in the form of Pan American International Flight Academy. It is based in MIA and trains thousands of pilots. The MIA building is like a museum, displaying pictures and memorabilia of that great airline. Thanks for the video.....
    Tom McIntyre, former 747 Program Manager for Pan Am International Flight Academy.

    • @ianbell8701
      @ianbell8701 Рік тому +8

      I remember the PAIFA well. We trained on the last operational 707 sim there when American closed their 707 sim. There was a small store at the top of the main staircase at the PAIFA where one could buy Pan Am memorabilia. Good memories.

  • @kendrick5501
    @kendrick5501 2 роки тому +69

    Pan Am is quite an example of "the bigger they are, the harder they fall"
    And it truly is tragic this happened to a great company like Pan Am

  • @brodycooper1950
    @brodycooper1950 5 років тому +1979

    Pilot episode
    I now see why this was the PILOT episode.

  • @nicovanos
    @nicovanos 4 роки тому +401

    One of the most beautiful company logo's in history imho.

    • @eetuthereindeer6671
      @eetuthereindeer6671 4 роки тому +7

      I think logos is the correct spelling. Saves you time not putting the ' and its correct too

    • @jvasquez138
      @jvasquez138 4 роки тому +22

      @@eetuthereindeer6671 *it's

    • @eetuthereindeer6671
      @eetuthereindeer6671 4 роки тому +2

      @@jvasquez138 it doesn't matter to me. You can save like 0.3 seconds by not doing that and isn't that awesome? I dont usually put those marks in all words. I jist tried to help Nico as it would save time

    • @wesleyquinnbine7341
      @wesleyquinnbine7341 4 роки тому +14

      Eetu The Hunter *just

    • @eetuthereindeer6671
      @eetuthereindeer6671 4 роки тому

      @@wesleyquinnbine7341 lol thanks..

  • @AfricaGeo
    @AfricaGeo 4 роки тому +149

    I remember flying Pan Am when I was 9 years back in 89. We were flying from Miami to Houston and I'll never forget that the captain let me inside the cockpit, it was the most exciting day of my life . Never thought that they were a company on the brink of extinction.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 роки тому +2

      You can tell when you can't get anyone on the phone. The stores look real raggedy and worn out.
      And awful web sites. Macy's will be next.
      Next up are Best Buy and CVS. You'll see.

    • @davidnavarro4821
      @davidnavarro4821 2 роки тому +2

      So amazing! There are plenty of stories about kids being allowed in the cockpit years ago! First times I took a transatlantic flight in 95 and 99 such a thing was absolutely unthinkable to me!

    • @MiMi_MoMo
      @MiMi_MoMo Рік тому +2

      As someone born in the mid 90s, and who flew for the first time about a year after 9/11, the idea of the captain letting children into the cockpit just blows my mind!!!!!
      I don’t remember much about my first experience on an airplane, since I was a child, but I do remember the stress and confusion of getting on the plane. Since 9/11 had just occurred the year prior, things weren’t ironed out and the TSA was even worse than it is now.
      It must have been great to have positive childhood memories of aviation…. The world really did change after September 11th.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Місяць тому

      @@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823Best Buy Mexico is gone already.

  • @robsmithracing
    @robsmithracing 3 роки тому +102

    My grandfather lived in Lockabie, Scotland in 1988 and had gone out to an old friends house when the engine of a Pan-Am 747 destroyed his house. Fate played a part that night and he lived losing everything almost but unfortunately he passed away 8 months later. I’m still haunted by the photos of bodies hanging off of houses. 😞

  • @nimueh4298
    @nimueh4298 4 роки тому +400

    I remember flying on Pan Am several times back in the day, great service, friendly, professional.
    None of the domestic airlines today even comes close to the service provided by Pan Am, what a shame.

    • @rtp1968
      @rtp1968 4 роки тому +6

      John Tam:Exactly!!!! Breaks my heart😞

    • @LuisGomez-hu6xr
      @LuisGomez-hu6xr 4 роки тому +9

      Agree! I came to the comment section just to say that. I was quite young but I’ll always remember they had the best service.

    • @sandycannon270
      @sandycannon270 4 роки тому +14

      I flew Pan Am about 4 times a year for a couple of years when I started my studies in the US. For us, in my country, Pan Am was 'thee airline' and being able to fly it that often was a treat. They even offered heavily discounted fares for international students. Was heart broken when they stopped flying as none of the other airlines offered their level of service.

    • @doubledthread56
      @doubledthread56 3 роки тому +14

      The reason airlines today are horrible because they only really care about money, and anything extra (like food) is a waste. For example, in 2005, when Northwest Airlines was losing money, they cut back on their food service. This saved them about 38 million a year.

    • @teresattrudicks6940
      @teresattrudicks6940 2 роки тому +1

      I don't know, spirit airlines is pretty great lol!

  • @allanfifield8256
    @allanfifield8256 5 років тому +318

    Helps me understand 'Catch if You Can Better'. Pan Am employees were treated with such respect.

    • @myousickoflife
      @myousickoflife 5 років тому +18

      Seriously, I was waiting for the mention the whole video. Kinda bummed he didn't mention it. I was going to check to see if it was the same company until I saw your comment.

    • @mike365fly
      @mike365fly 4 роки тому +21

      Leonardo DiCaprio bankrupted Pam Am

    • @AndrewSteitz
      @AndrewSteitz 3 роки тому

      Play-a-maker LOL 😂

    • @winniethepoohandeeyore2
      @winniethepoohandeeyore2 3 роки тому

      @@mike365fly Lol

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 4 місяці тому

      That entire film, which is about a conman, is a con in itself. Anyone who believes the story deserves to be lied to

  • @searscr1
    @searscr1 4 роки тому +108

    My dad worked National Airlines until Pan Am purchased them. I logged my trips around the world on Pan Am until they close their doors. I was an airline brat and proud of it. To me it was the end of the golden age of air travel. Air travel used to be a pleasurable experience. Now it is nothing more than a hassle. Cramped seating and charges for everything.

    • @douglasdixon524
      @douglasdixon524 3 роки тому +1

      My father was a pilot(1950-1978) my mother was a stewardess and my uncle was a flight engineer all for National Airlines. I miss them and National Airlines ( The Sunshine Airline.) Much better than that OTHER airline that bought them out.

    • @ACoolKidsProduction
      @ACoolKidsProduction Рік тому +2

      I think it was the deregulation of the industry in the 1980s that really made it not fun anymore. Changed it to being about profit. 9/11 couldn't have helped.

    • @aguasadonas8346
      @aguasadonas8346 Рік тому

      facts

  • @apacheattackhelicopter8410
    @apacheattackhelicopter8410 2 роки тому +64

    Jeez I was not even alive to experience most of these companies but I still get nostalgia from these vids for some reason

  • @Bubbless555
    @Bubbless555 6 років тому +73

    My heart goes out to that man that lost his fiancé along with everyone still suffering from those accidents. A super cool video, though. I look forward to this series!

  • @lilah.j
    @lilah.j 6 років тому +409

    I’ve always been oddly fascinated with Pan Am. This video really covers it all and the interview with Steve Priske was a nice touch. Enjoyed his perspective.

    • @KavinRamchandran
      @KavinRamchandran 6 років тому +4

      same honestly

    • @bills2999
      @bills2999 6 років тому +16

      I work for Delta now, and some of those Pan Am employees mentored me when I first started. They are what makes Delta a great company today.

    • @peteyesco
      @peteyesco 6 років тому +3

      Lilah J Same here! My first flight was on Pan Am and I’ve always been smitten with the brand.

    • @DjJooze
      @DjJooze 6 років тому

      Lilah J WHY?? what's so interesting about Pan Am ? pls answer

    • @TyphlosionGirl
      @TyphlosionGirl 6 років тому +3

      Lilah J I know right? I've had this weird fascination for a long time, and it sucks that at least my generation can never experience Pan Am.

  • @jving321
    @jving321 4 роки тому +22

    My first flight was on Pan Am in the 1970s to New York from Accra Ghana. Unbelievable experience. I haven't had such fun on any other Airline since.

  • @Gyrostatics
    @Gyrostatics 4 роки тому +54

    *Professional style intro*
    “What’s up guys, I’m back”

  • @timstevens4820
    @timstevens4820 6 років тому +654

    Wow, Jake. Another professional quality documentary that kept my attention from start to finish. Thank you.

    • @kellychuang8373
      @kellychuang8373 6 років тому +3

      I can also say really good documentary and we can only wait and see what's next for this.

    • @LindaFromSeaAtTull
      @LindaFromSeaAtTull 6 років тому +1

      Tim Stevens 5

  • @ForgiveMyMadness
    @ForgiveMyMadness 5 років тому +39

    When he mentioned his fiancée was on the flight pencilled in... I'm not crying, you are.

    • @daemonicnimrod4772
      @daemonicnimrod4772 4 роки тому

      Oh....I was wondering why you looked so blurry! 😃

    • @ve5747
      @ve5747 4 роки тому

      Cottonsocks434 you’re hot

  • @tessat338
    @tessat338 4 роки тому +23

    I came into the airline industry in the early 90s. Many of my colleagues, including my boss, were former Pan Am employees who had taken the early buyout. We watched the death throes of the corporation from the sidelines and the feeble attempts to revive it, including the Delta merger. I was struck with how much everyone stuck together and felt such affection and nostalgia for their careers with Pan Am.

  • @georgebowen2935
    @georgebowen2935 4 роки тому +450

    There is no: “Boeing DC-4”
    DC = Douglas Aircraft Company

    • @Cliff00936
      @Cliff00936 4 роки тому +17

      A part fell off of DC 4 once, then a Concorde ran over it then crashed a little after the take off.

    • @Cliff00936
      @Cliff00936 4 роки тому +3

      @Terry Hawkins you're right, I knew it was one of those "DC" plans.

    • @dervvy
      @dervvy 4 роки тому +4

      I thought it meant "Douglas Corporation"

    • @lezondmk
      @lezondmk 4 роки тому +5

      Actually there is. MD 95 which was is also known as a Boeing 717.

    • @HR-wd6cw
      @HR-wd6cw 4 роки тому +7

      Yes true, but the progression really goes "Douglas Comapny" (DC), then McDonald Douglas, and then Boeing acquired MD and presumably the patents and rights/designs to jets designed by the two former companies as part of the merger, and while it's obviously an obsolete design and airplane, Boeing likely owns the designs now.

  • @thegoose4715
    @thegoose4715 5 років тому +164

    Pan Am 103 is still to this day a major deal in Scotland.
    I am from Glasgow and I drive car transporter lorries for a living. The footage of the crater left by 103 on the road is the major motorway between Scotland and England, I drive this road on a weekly basis and pass the main crash scene.
    There is a large lorry park (truck stop) in Lockerbie, one of the best in the UK actually, and there are people who work there who were directly affected by this incident.
    The sheer mention of Pan Am 103 brings me close to tears.

    • @johncarlofernando1705
      @johncarlofernando1705 4 роки тому +4

      I read this in a british accent

    • @kkiwi54
      @kkiwi54 4 роки тому +3

      @@johncarlofernando1705 Which one? Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish, English (northern or southern) ;)

    • @johncarlofernando1705
      @johncarlofernando1705 4 роки тому +2

      @@kkiwi54 english lol

    • @johncarlofernando1705
      @johncarlofernando1705 4 роки тому +4

      @@kkiwi54 i dont know what a scottish accent sounds like. neither welsh. but i do know irish because of jacksepticeye

    • @6Six6Six6Bruh
      @6Six6Six6Bruh 4 роки тому

      John Carlo Fernando isnt he free irish? Or is he the sad oppressed protestant north

  • @hippiefreak66
    @hippiefreak66 6 років тому +136

    Oh look, Jake posted a new video. Time to sit back and learn something.

    • @90AlmostFamous
      @90AlmostFamous 6 років тому +2

      hippiefreak66 u mean close pornhub

  • @ariahazelwood3842
    @ariahazelwood3842 4 роки тому +15

    Rest in peace Miss Jocelyn, and everyone else who died in a Pan Am crash. From what I've been reading in the comments, it was a beautiful airline. I hope everything was quick. Hope families are still recovering from it all.

  • @MassDOT1136
    @MassDOT1136 3 роки тому +13

    Finally! Someone actually mentioned Pan Am Railways. Even though they didn’t really play a part in the airline itself, it is still something worth mentioning.

  • @Andiironda
    @Andiironda 6 років тому +198

    You knocked this one out of the park Jake! Excited to see where this show goes

    • @EllicottCity1
      @EllicottCity1 6 років тому

      Andrew Okwuosah ~ Could not agree more!!!

  • @loganmiller7827
    @loganmiller7827 6 років тому +22

    Is anyone else here subscribed to Company Man? I can officially come here for historical business things and Company Man for what's happening right now. Good balance

    • @Ben_10ison_
      @Ben_10ison_ 6 років тому

      Babydaisylover I am, he’s great.

  • @Metalbass10000
    @Metalbass10000 4 роки тому +123

    You left out the massive effects on the airline industry, and connected industries, of 1980's deregulation, of the smashing of the air traffic controllers union, both of which occurring during an even sharper downturn in the U.S. economy, and in many other countries as well, on the heels of the economically lousy 1970's.
    MANY factors led to this bankruptcy, and others, as well as mergers, takeovers, liquidations. It was a period of severe volatility, and is the root of the shitty service as the standard in this industry.

    • @dknowles60
      @dknowles60 2 роки тому +1

      Pan am did it to then self's brought to many 747;s never use the dc8 63 that would have save them a lot of money over paid for nat air lines to many things to list

  • @pbjgurl
    @pbjgurl 3 роки тому +10

    I found this particular episode really interesting. Because when different companies go bankrupt, they tend to follow a similar theme as to why they went bankrupt. Pan Am also had some of the same typical reasons for going bankrupt as other companies and brands, but they also had a lot of bad luck too that was out of their control. Terrorism, bombings, evolution of travel, hysteria of the fear of travel etc. The company was pretty successful up until their downfall.

  • @ThisIsReadyMade
    @ThisIsReadyMade 6 років тому +209

    1st episode and I’m already in love!

    • @tdamericaone7466
      @tdamericaone7466 6 років тому +2

      ThisIs ReadyMade 100% agree I’m so happy he is making this a series because I like the retail and mall abandoned videos the most and I’m just so happy that he basically has a series sortive dedicated to that besides the other industries but I also like the other businesses too like airlines banks among others

  • @CactusBravo42
    @CactusBravo42 6 років тому +88

    Juan Trippe = One Trip. Dude was a whole pun.

    • @everythingsalright1121
      @everythingsalright1121 6 років тому +5

      dont forget his cousins Juan Way and Juan Deag

    • @wildmist93
      @wildmist93 6 років тому

      I was literally about to make a comment about this 😂😂

    • @Alex632
      @Alex632 6 років тому +1

      This would be a good pun if it had any relevance to anything at all.

  • @gestaposantaclaus
    @gestaposantaclaus Рік тому +8

    The notice this airline sent out to its employees the day it officially went out of business is one of the the saddest things I’ve ever read.
    A notice filled with grief. It was the end of an era.

  • @jaydl_1085
    @jaydl_1085 3 роки тому +15

    Nobody:
    Me: Thinking about the movie "catch me if you can"

  • @christianelzey9703
    @christianelzey9703 6 років тому +1128

    Very interesting...I hope we get to see more Bankrupt episodes!

    • @tdamericaone7466
      @tdamericaone7466 6 років тому +1

      Christian Elzey agreed

    • @JeniousJustin
      @JeniousJustin 6 років тому +9

      Weird question, but how did you post this 4 days ago if the video was posted today?

    • @kyj565
      @kyj565 6 років тому +5

      released early to patrion donators I would guess.

    • @hannahramalho2422
      @hannahramalho2422 6 років тому

      Christian Elzey agreed

    • @mooglegiant
      @mooglegiant 6 років тому

      And it's older competitors Child World (or KB Toys)

  • @MrRyan2582
    @MrRyan2582 6 років тому +36

    WE NEED MORE BANKRUPT
    I'm getting intense Company Man flashbacks.

    • @TheKreAt0r
      @TheKreAt0r 6 років тому +3

      MrRyan2582 What needs to happen is to having both Jake and Mike work on each other's shows. They both have the same kind of know how, just think of what they can both do working together.

    • @andrewhamre2005
      @andrewhamre2005 6 років тому

      Company man is good

    • @xeno3382
      @xeno3382 6 років тому

      Omg yes

    • @kewintaylor7056
      @kewintaylor7056 5 років тому

      Lol....that the rrallity!....lol

  • @dieterhaensch65
    @dieterhaensch65 4 роки тому +53

    The lockerbie broke their neck. After that airline security was actually developed. Sad not to see Pan Am anymore :(

  • @Truckngirl
    @Truckngirl 3 роки тому +12

    In 1971 my 36 year old mother, my 11 year old brother, my 6 year old sister and my 13 year old self boarded a Pan Am 707 in San Francisco and flew one way to Hawaii, sight unseen. I and my mother are still here. My brother and sister are laid to rest here in Hawaii, and Pan Am is like a symbol of that travel and their subsequent demise.

    • @umute1653
      @umute1653 Рік тому

      I gotta ask. How was it flying in a 707 compared to say a 777 or a320 or a330. Because im just so obsessed with the 707 and i love it to bits. I never got to experience it and never saw it personally.

  • @MUMSUniverse
    @MUMSUniverse 6 років тому +161

    This was a sad video and I wasn't expecting to feel emotion over a company going bankrupt. Excellent video and hats off those who were lucky enough to work for such a great company. I hope that the gentleman that you got to interview is doing well and so sorry for his loss.

    • @lauren19965
      @lauren19965 6 років тому +8

      MUMS-Universe it took wayyy to long of scrolling to find a comment sending him condolence

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 5 років тому +7

      MUMS-Universe • Agreed. The man took two big lifetime hits - the loss of his fiancé and the loss of his medical and pension benefits - both sudden and devastating. When BrightSun interviewed him, he didn’t say anything about his recovery, but I do hope he was and continues to be successful.

  • @ReineDeLaSeine14
    @ReineDeLaSeine14 6 років тому +175

    Hearing about that man’s fiancée broke my heart. Why did she have to be penciled in as a 13th person?

    • @mikesexton8902
      @mikesexton8902 6 років тому +12

      It jerked some tears out of my eyes that I didn't expect when he said that too. He kept his composure better than I ever could.

    • @StagAtLarge
      @StagAtLarge 6 років тому +20

      Steve's got a book on Amazon called "Flying the Pool." He's also active on Facebook.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 років тому +6

      John Lydon (aka Johnny Rotten) of the Sex Pistols was supposed to be on that flight with his wife, but they missed it.

    • @laceymisawa
      @laceymisawa 6 років тому +2

      I think she was training

    • @terranceroff8113
      @terranceroff8113 6 років тому +6

      I recall hearing that off duty crew could "sign in" to a flight roster as an unpaid supernumerary. Which was really just an excuse to go on an excursion some times. This was common for a lot of airlines. You would step up if there was a need but that was passingly rare. Most time you just grabbed a nap and enjoyed the flight to where ever you were off to. That left me feeling awfully sad.

  • @luvslogistics1725
    @luvslogistics1725 3 роки тому +9

    My parents fleeing communism arrived to the shores of freedom on Pan Am. My father even got a job at the airport immediately and was promoted and then laid off as Pan Am went bankrupt. That was one of my early experiences of America.

  • @dkgshizzy
    @dkgshizzy 4 роки тому +178

    The narrator says the Lockerbie Bombing was a major "accident". It was a terrorist attack.

    • @matthewburris769
      @matthewburris769 4 роки тому +13

      Same thought occurred to me. Good short documentary, but otherwise, how do you make that mistake?!?

    • @stebur4277
      @stebur4277 4 роки тому +7

      @Jerry V With a lot of US help, to remove certain CIA top brass that were on the flight.

    • @dotsyjmaher
      @dotsyjmaher 4 роки тому +2

      IT WAS IRAN CONTRA COVER UP

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 4 роки тому +2

      @Jerry V ……..Mmmm, and you know this how?

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 4 роки тому +3

      Dan Gulbranson……..Yes, it WAS a terrorist attack. But it was orchestrated by the CIA, then covered up by the FBI and US State Dept

  • @spookf4688
    @spookf4688 6 років тому +160

    This is the sort of video that needs to be on trending. By the way Bright Sun Films, if you ever do an episode on Fort Ritchie in MD I can get footage for you. I live close to it.

    • @EllicottCity1
      @EllicottCity1 6 років тому +1

      Forsst Burban ~ Hello neighbor! Excellent idea~ I'd love to see that one🙂

    • @MandieTerrier
      @MandieTerrier 6 років тому +1

      Off to Google

    • @MandieTerrier
      @MandieTerrier 6 років тому +1

      now I so want to go up there

  • @thatplane3865
    @thatplane3865 5 років тому +37

    I love Pan Am, I wish it was still around

  • @jamieoshaughnessy9696
    @jamieoshaughnessy9696 4 роки тому +52

    Customer: Will there be a layover to New York?
    Attendant: Let's check with Juan Trippe...
    Juan Trippe: Only one trip.

  • @tysoncook5152
    @tysoncook5152 4 роки тому +51

    Wow. I wasn’t expecting something this dramatic and engaging from a video about an airline bankruptcy. You have quite the quality standard. I was already subscribed but now I have to ring the notification bell.

  • @stewartbrown8046
    @stewartbrown8046 5 років тому +387

    I remember to this very day where I was working ? At Heathrow for a sub- contractor working with Pan Am. On the 21 December 1988 I had been driving the Pan Am buggy around Terminal 3 departures collecting Passengers. It was a beautiful but very cold day. With my shift finished approximately 3.30pm I left the Terminal as I always did via the check desks .A throng of people were ready to either check in or had checked for their flight. That evening I went to a midweek church event . I had arrived home to my West London home near Hounslow East tube station. I had put on the news .A news flash appeared across the screen read by the BBC"s Nicholas Whitchell. That news bulletin would haunt me forever .I had just heard that Pan Am flight 103 from London to JFK had crashed in the Scottish Borders it was then that I knew those people I had seen just hours before were killed in the Lockerbie Disaster. It was an understatement that I had just collapsed to the ground and cried all night. The Pan Am jumbo was an aircraft I had fallen in love with, her name will always be in my heart and memory forever Clipper Maid of the Seas. She was a familiar site at Terminal 3, we would see her at least once a week & on so many occasions I would have either taken Passengers off her or boarded Passengers on her. It still breaks my heart to this day to see the image of her laying dead on her side in the fields near Tundergarth Church in Lockerbie. Her cockpit picture had become the sad iconic symbol of the Lockerbie Disaster. My thoughts at this time of year are always on Lockerbie. At the time of the tragedy I always look up at the sky & pray . That night will never leave me...ever. . Stewart Brown

    • @bowlerstuff9589
      @bowlerstuff9589 5 років тому +5

      why would it need to go to Lockerbie to fly over the atlantic?

    • @mikebronicki6978
      @mikebronicki6978 5 років тому +11

      @@bowlerstuff9589 I seem to recall that it was diverted to less congested route.

    • @jejamesjr5751
      @jejamesjr5751 5 років тому +16

      Such a terrible disaster. I was shocked and outraged at the news myself, but can hardly imagine how it must have been for you, with such close ties to this aircraft and her passengers. May God comfort you.

    • @bdrv18
      @bdrv18 5 років тому +8

      Jo Bowler Flight paths tend to curve upward. That’s just where it was flying over when it was blown up.

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 5 років тому +4

      Which terrorist organisation put the bomb on the plane?

  • @reneecalder439
    @reneecalder439 5 років тому +36

    I miss Pan Am. Steve hit it on the head when he said we were a family. We were and still are - Pan Am!

  • @bobbieratclif9519
    @bobbieratclif9519 2 роки тому +6

    A great show 👍 having flown Pan Am Airlines during its glory years, I miss not only their great service in coach class, but their long-haul first class flights were a blast! This company knew how to have an elegant experience, yet very humble hence their service and the flying experience was something I still miss today. This was an airline that was something more extra special each and every time you flew. Tickets didn’t come in at cheap prices, but this airline proved to me a lifelong value. “There are times when the extra money is well worth it.”

  • @jamieneil6123
    @jamieneil6123 3 роки тому +9

    Three years late but loved this topic on Pan Am. Like the fact you took the time to research and get a former lead flight attendant involved too. Great Video!! :D

  • @tommyboybr
    @tommyboybr 5 років тому +303

    That was a very well done documentary.
    It is so sad that Pan Am is gone.
    Imagine if we still had this great airline, it would be incredible!!!!!

    • @colinrimmer5695
      @colinrimmer5695 5 років тому +3

      Mk3 Bosc retro

    • @kewintaylor7056
      @kewintaylor7056 5 років тому +2

      Will u use them ,if they are more expensive...but poor service?...think...this is reallity!....
      That y the reason they got bankrupt!...😝😑🤐😝🤐😑😁

    • @madwolf0966
      @madwolf0966 5 років тому +12

      MaximusV MahaVeda you are such an immature child

    • @prod.hxrford3896
      @prod.hxrford3896 5 років тому +11

      @@kewintaylor7056 shut the fuck up with your stupid emojis

    • @jonathanbarker71
      @jonathanbarker71 5 років тому +1

      Pan Am is now a Railroad Company in New Hampshire

  • @thegreatcalvinio
    @thegreatcalvinio 6 років тому +85

    Pilot episode...
    Pan Am...
    I see what you did there...

    • @c.a.m9677
      @c.a.m9677 6 років тому

      Macinposh I don’t get it

    • @yellowRose806
      @yellowRose806 5 років тому

      Was he referring to the ABC TV show Pam Am too?

  • @hetconaviation2624
    @hetconaviation2624 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for being so thorough and respectful in telling the story of an airline that many of us grew up on as passengers. Those early years of my life undoubtedly had a lot to do with why I eventually became a pilot (strictly for fun, not work). I can't fly anymore but I will always have those cherished memories of the airline that inspired me to see the clouds from the right side.

  • @danielmclaughlin5546
    @danielmclaughlin5546 4 роки тому +69

    Wasn't a space ship featured in 2001: A Space Odyssey a Pan Am?

    • @wyganter
      @wyganter 4 роки тому +7

      Daniel McLaughlin Yep, I was surprised he didn’t include that along with the concept drawings for the Boeing SST.

    • @10gamer64
      @10gamer64 3 роки тому

      Yes, I am pretty sure 2 airlines were featured there, Pan Am and Aeroflot

  • @CJdude22
    @CJdude22 6 років тому +30

    Little thing I noticed...the DC-4 was not built by Boeing, but by the Douglas Aircraft Company. They later became McDonell Douglas in a merger between them and McDonell Aircraft. It wasn't until 1997 that McDonell Douglas merged with Boeing. Back in the DC-4's time, Douglas was in competition with Boeing.

  • @ToxPhy
    @ToxPhy 6 років тому +189

    The pilot episode is about an airline. Coincidence? I think not!

  • @silence1994
    @silence1994 4 роки тому +34

    The pan am building is where tony starks/the avengers tower is in the MCU films.

    • @mikeoxmaul45
      @mikeoxmaul45 3 роки тому +1

      Also the oscorp tower in andrew garfield spider man and the stateman tower in kingsman 2

  • @tyleranimated2334
    @tyleranimated2334 Рік тому +3

    My friend’s dad was being discharged from Germany after serving in the army, but he missed his connecting flight out of London to New York, which would take him to Detroit and he’d catch a quick commuter flight to Chicago, where he lived.
    That flight he missed was Pan Am 103.

  • @emmaherron5121
    @emmaherron5121 5 років тому +32

    I’m glad you mentioned the Tenerife disaster. I watched a documentary on that and it was how I found out about Pan am since then I’ve been fascinated with Pan am for some reason. I asked some family members about Pan am and all they could think about was flight 103. It’s such a shame that one thing remains the legacy of this amazing airline for most people who haven’t looked further into it.

  • @SlippyJNSN
    @SlippyJNSN 6 років тому +246

    The awkward shots of you nodding silently during the interview

  • @themomentchannel3498
    @themomentchannel3498 3 роки тому +11

    4:45 the first ever 747 being tested the start of the queen of the skies

  • @skeleguns10oooooo10
    @skeleguns10oooooo10 2 роки тому +8

    Had Pan Am balanced their fleet, they would still be here.

    • @bearabletable7527
      @bearabletable7527 4 місяці тому

      Yeah should of ordered the 757 and 767 and get rid of aging 747-100s and 727s :(

  • @oncloud9574
    @oncloud9574 6 років тому +157

    Love this new series and all of your other work. We can see how much work you put into your videos and appreciate it to no end. Excited to see where this series goes!!

  • @lrg8734
    @lrg8734 6 років тому +450

    When Pan Am died, part of America’s soul died with it.

    • @bambinosto
      @bambinosto 5 років тому +32

      If America is a sole, does that mean the world is a shoe ?

    • @lrg8734
      @lrg8734 5 років тому +30

      Not Sharing My name, thanks for pointing out the error, which I have corrected.
      Know the difference between “sole” and “soul.” Just a case of the brain not pulling the right version.

    • @LarryH54
      @LarryH54 5 років тому +13

      I'd been hoping that Stanley Kubrick's vision of Pan Am as a 21st century space shuttle might have come true.

    • @alexkibre4970
      @alexkibre4970 5 років тому +4

      Virgin Galactic is cool as hell, but it just isn't the same.

    • @cindys1819
      @cindys1819 5 років тому +10

      Not quite, but a big chunk of what made America great died with Pan Am and countless great firms which were killed or seriously damaged when Washington allowed the oil companies to jack the prices as they saw fit. This is one of the real dangers of allowing the Rockefeller's Et Al to just dictate energy policy through thier various supported NGO's......Pan Am Isa tiny part of what they killed in this country during the mid 70's...then the shipping production completely out of the country happened in the eighty's and after....adios America folks....
      But we now have a chance to take it all back.....it you're not allowed to lazy and mindless......

  • @soulman4292
    @soulman4292 2 роки тому +2

    I wish that the airline companies for the 100th anniversary of Pan Am’s first flight would bring back their livery for just a year. It would be awesome to walk on to a jet bridge towards a United or Delta 777, and see the blue meatball on the tail, and Pan Am in that amazing font emblazoned on the side, just for a year. C’mon airlines, PLEASE DO IT.

  • @georgecahill4379
    @georgecahill4379 Рік тому +2

    I fondly remember flying Pan American from JFK to Shannon, Ireland. We flew them several times and it was always a pleasant experience. We flew home the day after the Lockerbie bombing from Shannon to JFK. We were out visiting my father's friends and neighbors. We hadn't heard about Lockerbie. At our last stop, a woman who may not have had running water in the house told us she heard all about it in the radio.

  • @zachspeight
    @zachspeight 6 років тому +160

    Top quality as always Jake, keep up the good work.

  • @thebestisyettocome4114
    @thebestisyettocome4114 5 років тому +166

    Lady's and Gentleman, Pan Am was the gold standard of the United States of America 🇺🇸. I was employed with the company from 1960-1979. There was no airlines that could match us. Period! In my own opinion, management upper was mainly to be held accountable. A very sad ending to the pride of the American legion. Thank you. And thank the young man for his story of such a fantastic company.

    • @jejamesjr5751
      @jejamesjr5751 5 років тому

      I used some of your glue one time.

    • @mikebronicki6978
      @mikebronicki6978 5 років тому

      @@jejamesjr5751 ok, then name the gold standard of American companies. I'll wait...

    • @jejamesjr5751
      @jejamesjr5751 5 років тому +1

      Mr. Bronicki, I meant no slight whatsoever toward Pan Am. My comment was meant for another post somewhere, obviously. I can't explain how it ended up here. Forgive me, please. I hated to see Pan Am disappear too, as a huge part of aviation history, particularly with regard to international air travel.

    • @alejandrofernandez4284
      @alejandrofernandez4284 5 років тому +6

      Do agree with you. I've flown Pan Am twice and to this date I never ever saw again that level of service and dedication. Not even Lufthansa and Emirates match Pan Am levels. And I fly a lot.

    • @robertewalt7789
      @robertewalt7789 5 років тому +1

      I flew Pan Am from Tokyo to NYC, via India and London, in 1977.

  • @michael1345
    @michael1345 4 роки тому +6

    That was very interesting. My Uncle Herb Schiro was one of the Executives of Pan Am in its golden years and I remember the Excitement of going to the Airport to see him arrive in Sydney with my Aunt Sylvie and cousins.

  • @emendoz1
    @emendoz1 3 роки тому +2

    My first airplane flight was on a PamAm plane from Havana Cuba to Miami Florida in 1967 when I was six years old. I remember walking up the stairs to the plane on the runway like it was yesterday.

  • @elizabethgonzalez414
    @elizabethgonzalez414 6 років тому +13

    I was watching a top 10 US bankruptcies list earlier today, which included Pan Am, Blockbuster, and Sears Canada, and immediately thought “Jake should do a series about bankruptcies”
    A few hours later Jake releases this series 😂

  • @TheCMLion
    @TheCMLion 6 років тому +16

    Well done! As always!
    A coworker of mine's father was a pilot for Pan Am. She still has a great love for the airline and her office is filled with Pan Am memorabilia.

  • @mshotz1
    @mshotz1 3 роки тому +4

    You left off that Pan Am was so iconic, it was featured at the Space Line that shuttled people from the Earth, to a space station then to The Moon in 2001: a Space Odyssey.

  • @ethansucksatcuphead
    @ethansucksatcuphead 4 роки тому +65

    If you look closely in Home Alone 2 in one scene you can see the Pan Am building

    • @rongendron8705
      @rongendron8705 2 роки тому +2

      Plus, a pretty good scene on the top of the World Trade Center & a future President!

    • @abbycollins
      @abbycollins 2 роки тому +1

      @@rongendron8705 "Down the wall and to the left." was a running joke for awhile. Ah, memories.

  • @ElectedNews
    @ElectedNews 6 років тому +63

    Amazing. One of the best channels on YT

  • @MFastnaught0947
    @MFastnaught0947 4 роки тому +231

    My grandfather could’ve been on flight 103 but he was thankfully sick and couldn’t travel

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 4 роки тому +18

      Yah-Boi Animations Sometimes we get lucky in life

    • @shapeovertime6364
      @shapeovertime6364 4 роки тому +5

      John Iii Seth McFarlane could’ve been on a flight that hit the world trade centre

    • @TijmensAviation
      @TijmensAviation 4 роки тому +18

      nightshaded I also think a lot of this shit is fake, but what if it IS real for once. Then you will hurt someone very badly.

    • @non9045
      @non9045 4 роки тому +4

      i was on that plane. the landing was not so smoothly. i'm the only surviver. now i'm 19 years old.

    • @okgamers4370
      @okgamers4370 4 роки тому +2

      simon That does not even make sense ;-;

  • @MyNico63
    @MyNico63 4 роки тому +4

    Wow! Well done! I'm proud to say that when I lived in Berlin in late 80s, I got the opportunity to fly Pan Am from their hub there, mostly for weekend trips, like to Paris for instance. Professional service and wonderful staff! I was sorry to see them go since they were THE one to watch and fly for the longest time! Thanks for the memories...

  • @evam2351
    @evam2351 4 роки тому +8

    When you see Enron's logo after 1 second of the video starting, you know things are gonna get bad.

  • @ivanidm123
    @ivanidm123 5 років тому +793

    The DC-4 was made by Douglas not Boeing

    • @FumetsuGolf
      @FumetsuGolf 5 років тому +148

      @smith smithy Yes but the DC-4 was developed while it was still Douglas, Boeing was not involved. It was developed even before Douglas merged with McDonnell to become McDonnell-Douglas. The video implies Boeing developed the DC-4 - they didn't.

    • @FumetsuGolf
      @FumetsuGolf 5 років тому +79

      @hu1a121 Boeing didn't buy McDonnel Douglas until 1996. The DC-4 isn't called the Boeing DC-4, it's called the Douglas DC-4 because it was developed when Douglas was an independent company. They may own the rights to it now, but the video implies it was developed by Boeing when it was not. Pan-Am was bought out by Delta, but you wouldn't refer to them as Delta when talking about them in the past, would you? Why would you do the same when talking about a previous plane model built by Douglas, not Boeing?

    • @davidliu2243
      @davidliu2243 5 років тому +1

      Douglas is owned by Boeing.

    • @jbass6665
      @jbass6665 5 років тому +51

      You are correct. Calling it Boeing DC-4 is like calling a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda a Fiat-Chrysler Barracuda.

    • @youtuuba
      @youtuuba 5 років тому +24

      Conventional practice when writing or doing video about history is to use the brand/manufacturer names in use at the time. When writing or making video about current things, it is more common to mention the current ownership in the lineage. This particular video goes against common practice and thus increases confusion and misinformation for the uninformed that it is trying to educate.

  • @carloscapinpin803
    @carloscapinpin803 4 роки тому +34

    “Welcome to the pilot episode of Bankrupt”
    *I see what you did there*

  • @DM-hw4cr
    @DM-hw4cr 2 роки тому +1

    I remember in the mid-70s flying on a Pan Am 747 in first class. The second floor deck was a lounge sourrounded with couches.

  • @LG633TV
    @LG633TV 4 роки тому +4

    I actually used a lot of information in this video to write my college paper on airline deregulation, and even dedicated one of my paragraphs to this video.

  • @markshostrom4942
    @markshostrom4942 5 років тому +83

    Thank you for the cool film. I used to fly Pan Am as a teenager all the time from the USA to Asia and back in the 1970s and 80s. PA 001 one way, PA 002 the other. My dad flew Pan Am a lot for business, in fact he had flown PA 103 many times. And my girlfriend's dad in 1978 worked for Pan Am in Hawaii. Nice film, but personally sad for me. Pan Am was simply the best ever.

    • @n4gix
      @n4gix 5 років тому +2

      When I was twelve, my parents and I flew PA 001 in 1961 from NYC to Tehran, Iran with two day layovers In London, Paris, Rome, Beirut and finally finishing up at Tehran's Mehrabad Airport. Over the next eight years we flew PAA exclusively traveling both directions on PAA 001 and PAA 002. They had the best in-flight meal service of any other airline I've flown on since.
      Actually, the very best meal service ever was on a National Airlines Super Connie my mother and I took from Miami to San Francisco in 1954. Real food served on real china cloth napkins and real silverware! :)

  • @julesrandolph5687
    @julesrandolph5687 4 роки тому +47

    Props to the creator/narrator of the above: well-researched, well thought out and nicely done mini-doc on the rise and fall of perhaps America's most iconic airline of the 20th Century.

  • @norcalguaponorcalguapo6773
    @norcalguaponorcalguapo6773 3 роки тому +1

    My mother worked for Pan Am. Was a young women from Costa Rica of all places. Every time she talks of the company she has nothing but fond memories.

  • @maddexairlines
    @maddexairlines 12 днів тому

    As someone who never got to fly on Pan Am, when it was still around, I am very lucky enough to have met so many people who have worked for Pan Am and I can tell you there are some of the most friendliest people you’ll ever meet

  • @jslasher1
    @jslasher1 5 років тому +39

    The saddest day in my life was the bankruptcy of Pan Am. Although I worked for TWA I had a great love for PA. They were extremely kind towards me on several occasions. I will never forget the professionalism of their staff.

    • @jakeianmartinez9902
      @jakeianmartinez9902 5 років тому +1

      jslasher1 your gonna like us TWA 😊

    • @HerreDePerre
      @HerreDePerre 5 років тому

      jslasher1 you have a chill live if thats the saddest day

    • @obeseboy597
      @obeseboy597 5 років тому

      So why wasn't the TWA bankruptcy the saddest day of your live lmao. Guess you just worked at American after that?

  • @mk7mandeh
    @mk7mandeh 6 років тому +340

    I feel so bad for the man who lost his fiance.

    • @chayden153
      @chayden153 6 років тому +41

      Mandeh Hunt same, I could never imagine going through something so horrible like that.

    • @AM-em5gc
      @AM-em5gc 6 років тому +12

      I know, I feel so awful for him. That poor man.

    • @kaberus7565
      @kaberus7565 6 років тому +6

      lockerbie was so shitty

    • @emperorx5
      @emperorx5 6 років тому +7

      Fuck Gadaffi for this shit

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 5 років тому +14

      @@charlesferdinand422 yeah... yeah, this is not the time, you're right. Next time, listen to that instinct.

  • @bugofcake
    @bugofcake 4 роки тому +25

    can't wait for the Thomas Cook episode