Exactly, no one ever looks at their phone and goes “okay so how many minutes do I have before my phone dies” they just look at the percentage and estimate it. If you watch videos over LTE it uses more, if you play games, it uses more, if you overheat it or turn the brightness up, it uses more. Same goes for a car. People seem to have this weird idea that your car knows exactly how you’ll drive and what conditions you’ll put it through, instead of treating it like how they use every other battery powered electronic in their life.
Range shown includes the buffer range after you show 0 range. The speed you travel at on a highway uses the most energy, in town with mixed lower speed driving lots of energy is regenerated, therefore getting closer to the range estimated by the car.
You didn't charge to 100% though. Even though they don't recommend it daily, for a long trip like that would definitely made a difference and be interesting to see how much you would have left once you got there
Yes the lost of range with big wheels and driving above 70 mph will be huge. Since I got my Model 3 SR I've been doing informal testing to see how much I can get. With the aero wheels at 70 to 75 mph I was using 250 to 270 watts per mile, with the aero caps off it went 9am up a little bit. To around 260 to 280 watts per mile. Then I put a set TSV 19 inch wheels and whoa the use when up to around 290 to 310 watts per mile. So for around town its not that big of an issue but for long trips either put the 18 inch wheels with aero caps back on or plan on making more stops to charge.
It really depends on how you drive the car. I drive my Tesla the way I drove my old civic. 3k miles on it with an average of 218 kwh/per mile and I always exceed what the range indicator gives me.
the range you get going 70mph freeway all the way will definitely be lower than a mix of freeway miles and city miles which would be closer to the rated range. Not only because of speed but also because of the power you get back with regenerative braking. Contrary to ICE vehicles not being as efficient in start, stop driving, EVs actually benefit more from start, stop driving because of the regen braking.
you also have to keep in mind that using the autopilot uses battery which depletes your range, so the longer you have the autopilot on the more your range depletes
My question is how accurately did navigation predict arrival procent. Because that prediction takes account temperatures (battery and air) speed limit and elevation changes so it is more accurate than battery km/miles range indicator. In my car it is about 5% off but that is because my car has aftermarket lip and spoiler.
This was interesting, I haven't seen what the everyday Tesla experience is like before. You'd think that if the ambient temperature was a factor that they would build that into the calculations in the trip planning screen. Same with the elevation change and so on.
Been looking at this car- I have a question about the dash in the video. The title says this is a 2021 SR+ but I thought the dash was more black / wood in that model. Is the silver carbon fiber featured here an option or after market installation?
Unfortunately you have no idea what the "estimated range" number is. I would suggest you read the owners manual and understand that the number posted is always the same and it’s a calculated number based on an algorithm that the BMS is computing. That is why all Teslas of the same configuration have about the same estimated range number @ 100%. If you see 234 miles @ 100% this doesn’t mean, in a Tesla, that you will drive 234 miles, no matter what speed you drive, what headwind you face, what elevation you have to fight and so on. So, although complaining about the range number of a Tesla isn’t new, it’s sad to see people that buy a car and have no clues about what they buy.
@@kevintran1070 exactly, which is why it's not as efficient on the highway, but a gas car driving the same speed and manner on the highway gets more efficiency but less in the city.
Right so highway driving is less efficient for EVs than start-stop city driving so the range indicator is going to be off. I go by percentages instead and that tends to give me a better idea of how much if left before I need to stop to charge.
What does the “new refresh “ model mean? I am soon buying one and am a bit torn between sr+ 2021 or Lr 2019 (used ) for the same pride or a third option polestar 2 Lr
I would love to see a Tesla standard plus that actually gets the 263 miles they claim. I'm getting even less range than you and mine is only a month old. If there isn't a class action there will be. I'd be lucky to get 140 miles on a 90% charge on the highway. 263? Impossible. Tesla says my car is performing better than other new cars same model so I guess someone is getting even less range than me.
The range is reduced because you run with high speed 70-78 mph. This causes high energy consumption (> 250Wh/mile as indicated on your screen). To have best range on my Model 3 SR+, I reduce high way speed to 60-65 mph to reduce energy consumption to around 190-210 Wh/mile. Slower speed also helps to reduce road noise which is nicer for listening to music. When I have energy to burn and I’m in a rush, I would drive faster at 70-80mph
No one drives 60 on the freeway. That is not realistic. Tesla EPA numbers are bullshit. My SR+ gets on average ~120 miles from 90% to around ~20% with real world driving. I drive with the air on and smash the pedal and go above 80+. Because that is realistic and I enjoy my car. But the range needs to be rated more realistically. Not 55mph on the freeway to achieve EPA numbers rofl
I'm not sure why people still use the range in miles. You wouldn't do this in an ICE vehicle -- you would simply use your gas gauge and see the bar getting shorter as you drove. The calculation that Tesla is using is based on the posted speeds and easy acceleration and basic use of HVAC. I use the percent and look at the trip graph and tend to get close if I don't drive too fast/accelerate too fast and have the HVAC at a reasonable level (no different then I would try to do if maximizing mileage in an ICE vehicle). Fun, no, but I get good range.
That's one way of looking at it. We still have MPGs for ICE cars. For me personally, the fun of driving a Tesla is the performance and specifically the acceleration. I don't mind that it reduces the range since I never max out the range anyway
I never use the Miles indicator for my 3, I always use the % like a phone and just never let my car drop below 15% on car trips.
Exactly, no one ever looks at their phone and goes “okay so how many minutes do I have before my phone dies” they just look at the percentage and estimate it. If you watch videos over LTE it uses more, if you play games, it uses more, if you overheat it or turn the brightness up, it uses more. Same goes for a car. People seem to have this weird idea that your car knows exactly how you’ll drive and what conditions you’ll put it through, instead of treating it like how they use every other battery powered electronic in their life.
Same
Range shown includes the buffer range after you show 0 range. The speed you travel at on a highway uses the most energy, in town with mixed lower speed driving lots of energy is regenerated, therefore getting closer to the range estimated by the car.
Percentage is the best indicator. Miles tend to fluctuate based on driving speed and other factors.
NEVER use that number. Put % and use nav estimation
Live gators bring range anxiety to a whole new level. Get to that charging station!
Makes it more exciting!
You didn't charge to 100% though. Even though they don't recommend it daily, for a long trip like that would definitely made a difference and be interesting to see how much you would have left once you got there
You had 207 miles
Yes the lost of range with big wheels and driving above 70 mph will be huge. Since I got my Model 3 SR I've been doing informal testing to see how much I can get. With the aero wheels at 70 to 75 mph I was using 250 to 270 watts per mile, with the aero caps off it went 9am up a little bit. To around 260 to 280 watts per mile. Then I put a set TSV 19 inch wheels and whoa the use when up to around 290 to 310 watts per mile. So for around town its not that big of an issue but for long trips either put the 18 inch wheels with aero caps back on or plan on making more stops to charge.
It really depends on how you drive the car. I drive my Tesla the way I drove my old civic. 3k miles on it with an average of 218 kwh/per mile and I always exceed what the range indicator gives me.
Yep driving style definitely impact range
217 kWh per mile is extremely poor!
I changed mine to display the battery percentage instead.
Does 2021 sr+ have fog lights? Thanks for the informative video!! :)
Nope unfortunately they do not have fog lights
No need if you’re in autopilot. Turn off the lights and scare the kids when it takes a corner in auto pilot 🤣
According to the website currently all model 3s have led fog lights
“Most boring”, you have obviously never driven through rural Illinois or Indiana...nothing but cornfields.
Is the infotainment within the SR+ the same as the Long Range? I've heard that the navigation is slow and laggy on the SR+ is that true?
the range you get going 70mph freeway all the way will definitely be lower than a mix of freeway miles and city miles which would be closer to the rated range. Not only because of speed but also because of the power you get back with regenerative braking. Contrary to ICE vehicles not being as efficient in start, stop driving, EVs actually benefit more from start, stop driving because of the regen braking.
you also have to keep in mind that using the autopilot uses battery which depletes your range, so the longer you have the autopilot on the more your range depletes
My question is how accurately did navigation predict arrival procent. Because that prediction takes account temperatures (battery and air) speed limit and elevation changes so it is more accurate than battery km/miles range indicator. In my car it is about 5% off but that is because my car has aftermarket lip and spoiler.
This was interesting, I haven't seen what the everyday Tesla experience is like before. You'd think that if the ambient temperature was a factor that they would build that into the calculations in the trip planning screen. Same with the elevation change and so on.
Well that predicted arrival procent in navigation does calculate those factors (or at least mine does)
@@aleksisoukkala ah interesting! yeah I thought it would be very un-Tesla-like to not factor that in somewhere
Been looking at this car- I have a question about the dash in the video. The title says this is a 2021 SR+ but I thought the dash was more black / wood in that model. Is the silver carbon fiber featured here an option or after market installation?
Unfortunately you have no idea what the "estimated range" number is. I would suggest you read the owners manual and understand that the number posted is always the same and it’s a calculated number based on an algorithm that the BMS is computing. That is why all Teslas of the same configuration have about the same estimated range number @ 100%.
If you see 234 miles @ 100% this doesn’t mean, in a Tesla, that you will drive 234 miles, no matter what speed you drive, what headwind you face, what elevation you have to fight and so on. So, although complaining about the range number of a Tesla isn’t new, it’s sad to see people that buy a car and have no clues about what they buy.
It is annoying that my Model Y-SR is so inefficient on the highway, but extremely efficient in city. It's the opposite of an ICE vehicle.
The range depends greatly on the speed of the car.
@@kevintran1070 exactly, which is why it's not as efficient on the highway, but a gas car driving the same speed and manner on the highway gets more efficiency but less in the city.
Right so highway driving is less efficient for EVs than start-stop city driving so the range indicator is going to be off. I go by percentages instead and that tends to give me a better idea of how much if left before I need to stop to charge.
Well even on the highway your Y is still about 4x more efficient than a gas car.
@@RemoteSpeed007 in high way traffic yes, but not in steady pace highway driving.
where you using your radio while driving?
Great video. Do you have the new refresh M3 SR+?
What does the “new refresh “ model mean?
I am soon buying one and am a bit torn between sr+ 2021 or Lr 2019 (used ) for the same pride or a third option polestar 2 Lr
Do a video on Vazirani Shul Hyper sports. The Design Language is very unique and has modern aspect to it.
Nice to see you changing to a fresh Tee after seeing 1029327 hairs of cat fair on your grey one. Sorry my OCD gets triggered
It’s the price you pay when fostering kittens 😄
Just put it on percent instead of miles and you’ll be fine if you want your miles just look at the graph
Had it in percentage first, prefer miles. It’s pretty accurate if you drive like a grandma
@@Bembli lol
Great video, but LOL Lakeland (where that gator lives) is not in the Everglades. ;^)
I would love to see a Tesla standard plus that actually gets the 263 miles they claim. I'm getting even less range than you and mine is only a month old. If there isn't a class action there will be. I'd be lucky to get 140 miles on a 90% charge on the highway. 263? Impossible. Tesla says my car is performing better than other new cars same model so I guess someone is getting even less range than me.
The range is reduced because you run with high speed 70-78 mph. This causes high energy consumption (> 250Wh/mile as indicated on your screen). To have best range on my Model 3 SR+, I reduce high way speed to 60-65 mph to reduce energy consumption to around 190-210 Wh/mile. Slower speed also helps to reduce road noise which is nicer for listening to music. When I have energy to burn and I’m in a rush, I would drive faster at 70-80mph
No one drives 60 on the freeway. That is not realistic. Tesla EPA numbers are bullshit. My SR+ gets on average ~120 miles from 90% to around ~20% with real world driving. I drive with the air on and smash the pedal and go above 80+. Because that is realistic and I enjoy my car. But the range needs to be rated more realistically. Not 55mph on the freeway to achieve EPA numbers rofl
@@InSaN3ViSioN , if the speed limit is 75mph, yes you ‘re right with 80+mph. But not with the speed limits of 55 mph or 65 mph.
Cute kitten!
Why couldn’t you keep the kitten?
Funny I have a 2021 SR+ and my wife drives a Tiguan
Nice!
Ayyyyyy Cape Coral is my home town!
I'm not sure why people still use the range in miles. You wouldn't do this in an ICE vehicle -- you would simply use your gas gauge and see the bar getting shorter as you drove. The calculation that Tesla is using is based on the posted speeds and easy acceleration and basic use of HVAC. I use the percent and look at the trip graph and tend to get close if I don't drive too fast/accelerate too fast and have the HVAC at a reasonable level (no different then I would try to do if maximizing mileage in an ICE vehicle). Fun, no, but I get good range.
That's one way of looking at it. We still have MPGs for ICE cars. For me personally, the fun of driving a Tesla is the performance and specifically the acceleration. I don't mind that it reduces the range since I never max out the range anyway
Where is Ferrari Roma?
Waiting
Coming this week!
@@Bembli BTW big fan
U sketch or design really well
love it
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Going 74 mph in a 55mph zone?
*I know. He's a slow driver. I'd have gone 90 in a 55.*
this is super annoying to watch for everyone else in the world who doesn't use Farenheit and Miles