Gaming like its 1994 - Sid Meiers: Colonization

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  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
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  • @caligo7918
    @caligo7918 Місяць тому +146

    Dude, there is a tutorial and it explains a lot.
    Also, we are talking 1994, when we had actual, physical handbooks and they were not just recommended reading, they were essential for some games!

  • @yxolloxy3273
    @yxolloxy3273 Місяць тому +144

    Man, i played this so much like.. 20 years ago or so....

    • @P_Luke_12345
      @P_Luke_12345 Місяць тому +5

      Goddddd.... I hate that I played it in 1997.... WHY does the time fly so quickly.

    • @Bundle85
      @Bundle85 Місяць тому +2

      in 2004?

    • @caligo7918
      @caligo7918 Місяць тому +1

      well the game is 30 years old ;)

    • @miguelsacramento4416
      @miguelsacramento4416 Місяць тому +9

      I can confirm that 1994 was 20 years ago.

    • @yxolloxy3273
      @yxolloxy3273 Місяць тому +7

      @@miguelsacramento4416 well, once you hit 40 the decades kinda start to blend together :P

  • @michaelhathorus4859
    @michaelhathorus4859 Місяць тому +110

    Hey Spuddie! I played this a LOT back on my Amiga 2000 here's some tips for your next play: 1) raw goods are okay to start with (fur, ore, wood, etc.) but you want to start exporting FINISHED goods (coats, tools, lumber, etc.) for better prices. 2) Religion will keep your folks happy over time and can help 'convert' indigenous tribes who just show up with some expert skills (farmer, trapper, etc). 3) The American flag symbol with a % next to it is the rough percentage of people in that settlement who want to break away from the Home Country. Eventually, over time, that will grow, largely because the king will impose new taxes on your imported stuff; you will have a choice - take the taxes or refuse to pay the taxes. Taking the taxes reduces your profit on ALL you export to the home country while refusing will cause the king to forbid trade in a certain product (like silver, ore, tools, etc.) from your colony. Finally, you want to begin building your own arms, weapons, and ships because (spoiler alert) you'll eventually want to declare independence form the home country and they will not like that at all; their trained soldiers will mop the floor with you if you don't have some good weapons and ships of your own. They'll be tough at that point, but defeatable.

    • @AzureAlliance31
      @AzureAlliance31 Місяць тому

      2 is false; crosses make emigrants spawn slightly faster on the docks. Crosses suck. Also, native converts are just a slightly gimp free colonist you can't educate (until you get the Founding Father who turns them all into free colonists, which is a one-off thing)

    • @gerritvalkering1068
      @gerritvalkering1068 Місяць тому +4

      Additional info:
      When you declare independence, you lose when you lose all your coastal towns. You win when the king runs out of army. Not navy, and those ships are damn near unsinkable so that's a good thing. By limiting how many coastal cities you have, you limit at how many places you're going to be attacked.
      Once taxes start to rise you'll suddenly see the benefit of trading with the natives. It pays to keep some alive nearby. Build a road, maybe.
      Trading guns and horses with them is a great idea as long as they're far away. Your rival European powers don't mind dealing with mounted armed braves at all.

    • @marinewillis1202
      @marinewillis1202 Місяць тому +2

      yup. And you want to make sure each city has at least SOMETHING. Get a couple ore ones to make tools and then muskets. You want a few with different others like furs sugar etc so you can then have those focus on those things. I would say the biggest thing is to make sure you have a couple hills or whatever to get the ore. The prices for that in Europe go through the roof quick and you will need to churn those out

    • @Ooshgaar
      @Ooshgaar Місяць тому

      He picked the French..
      Their trained soldiers will run at the sight of any weapons. They'll come armed with white flags.

    • @sejrlund
      @sejrlund Місяць тому

      Churches dont generate happiness, its not a factor in this game, they generate immigrants and converts

  • @harlequin75
    @harlequin75 Місяць тому +109

    We would play this through the night and miss class in 1994 LOL

    • @Biomirth
      @Biomirth Місяць тому

      Me too. good game.

    • @georgep.burdell7237
      @georgep.burdell7237 Місяць тому

      Very first PC strategy game that obsessed me was Command HQ. The Cold War was still on when it came out.
      Now get off my lawn!

  • @Army1SGRetired
    @Army1SGRetired Місяць тому +23

    This was the golden age of gaming, Sid Meier's Civ, Colonization, and Pirates!, and most anything from Microprose or SSI.

    • @CB-ou4hi
      @CB-ou4hi 11 днів тому +2

      Sim city 2000 and railroad tycoon were my favourite!

    • @Army1SGRetired
      @Army1SGRetired 11 днів тому +1

      @@CB-ou4hi Railroad Tycoon was fantastic, I can't say a better train game has been created since then.

  • @martinh5329
    @martinh5329 Місяць тому +45

    Probably the game I've played the most ever. All the way back on my Amiga 500

    • @masonsnakes4721
      @masonsnakes4721 Місяць тому +2

      this vid made me think of this game, and 'populous' , on my Amiga (my dads)

    • @eduardo3652
      @eduardo3652 Місяць тому +2

      I played it on a Atari 520ST!

    • @oddsock9236
      @oddsock9236 Місяць тому +1

      i bought an external disk drive so i didmt have to keep changing floppies lol

  • @helstromh
    @helstromh Місяць тому +27

    I used to love this game. In order to build your docks, you will need to have a colonist in the carpenter's shop to build the hammers, since you already cut down one of the forest tiles you have a surplus of 40 lumber, when you "hammer" through that you will need tell one of your colonists to become a lumberjack in the remaining woods tile. The two starting colonists you got were a "pioneer" (a colonist specializing in using "tools") armed with 100 "tools" and a "free colonist" (a citizen with no specialty yet) armed with 50 "muskets". If you find a "veteran" (a colonist specialized in fighting) on the dock, he will come with 50 muskets as well.
    The game engine is quite clunky, but it added a variety of interesting features such as creating routes for trade and allowing colonists to learn new skills by doing a skill long enough. If I remember correctly, you cannot buy a toccanist as Europe had no idea how to harvest that crop.

    • @joshlemagne
      @joshlemagne Місяць тому +2

      If you move a regular colonist into a native village they will teach you one of the specialty planting professions and then you can teach it to others through the school if you need more later.

    • @helstromh
      @helstromh Місяць тому +2

      @@joshlemagne Correct, I re-played this game a couple of months ago. I did not want to go too much into detail about different levels of buildings, especially buildings that are not available right away. Also sending missionaries to a native village may cause natives to come to your colony as converts in the future. These converts are better field-based work (farming, cutting, mining) than free-colonists, but worse at building-based professions. Also indentured servants and petty criminals are the worst at most jobs and they will need to perform a job for a LONG time to move up the ranks.

  • @gebus5633
    @gebus5633 Місяць тому +25

    There is a "modern" version of this, Civilization 4: Colonization. And it has a mod that improves it a lot, almost could say transforms it, We The People.

    • @elisabetk2595
      @elisabetk2595 Місяць тому +5

      That's the one I've played. It's much easier to decipher the graphics, for sure!

    • @petertrudelljr
      @petertrudelljr Місяць тому +1

      Is We The People better than Age of Discovery II mod?

    • @gebus5633
      @gebus5633 Місяць тому

      @@petertrudelljr Can't say, I've not tried the one you mentioned. Hope someone who has tried both can say.

    • @MarijnRoorda
      @MarijnRoorda Місяць тому +3

      Yes, and it's absolute crap. The custom house doesn't work properly in that version, and that breaks the game. I understand from a historical point of view that the boston tea party was a important moment in the independence of america, but it didn't happen overnight, and you still need to be able to sell your goods to nations outside of your homelands.

    • @shainigarker3020
      @shainigarker3020 Місяць тому +2

      @@MarijnRoorda I would not say it is utterly crap but too complicated for no reason, they have so many goods, jobs and needs making it a micro hell that the best strategy for your sanity is ignore it. you only need like 2-3 cities to win (or 1 if you have an ideal location) but so many pop ups and side objectives just distract you.

  • @smcilia
    @smcilia Місяць тому +22

    Bought this game in 1994, on four floppy disks, it was awesome!

  • @braxat52
    @braxat52 Місяць тому +30

    1:55 If i remember right, the game doesn't really wash up history that much. If you play as the Spanish for example you will be told right away to pillage and murder you way as it historically happened, and you will get bonuses to do so.
    Also... yes, the carpenter gives you production to build stuff. The "hammers" you use on the pioners come from the blacksmith. And you can use the missionaries to stablish "missions" onto native towns, which will improve relations with them and give you a chance to get more colonists.
    And keep up the good work, the game is surprisingly fun for as old as it is.

  • @Michael--317
    @Michael--317 Місяць тому +3

    Oh now this is a blast from the past, played so much of this and Civ 2 when growing up

  • @Zongooo
    @Zongooo Місяць тому +5

    I played this a lot and loved it. If I remember correctly though, the final war for independence was a very straightforward slugfest with no maneuvering.

    • @Sabbalonns
      @Sabbalonns Місяць тому +2

      Yeah it was funny you could see the exact size of the army the crown had in the menu screens

  • @Rich4098
    @Rich4098 23 дні тому +1

    This game had such good pacing. The switch between exploration and development, to the independence fight was pretty exciting.

  • @aydentraynor7927
    @aydentraynor7927 Місяць тому +4

    This game is such a classic, I recently bought it on Steam. The soundtrack is so nostalgic!

  • @Neonator08
    @Neonator08 Місяць тому +1

    I played this game SO SO much back in the 90s

  • @mattash6763
    @mattash6763 Місяць тому +3

    Loved this game! I still played it up until about five or six years ago.

  • @jessefoutz597
    @jessefoutz597 Місяць тому +1

    My very first Civ-like game! Where you had to save as often as you could, because you never knew when a blue-screen would come along to ruin everything!

  • @Mar_Marine
    @Mar_Marine Місяць тому +4

    The original Colonization, a beautiful work of art. Even if I can't watch more since I'm not a patron, I'm glad to see any appreciation for the game!

  • @fischersfritz468
    @fischersfritz468 Місяць тому +3

    Oh. I played this a lot! I was 15 in 1994... feels like yesterday

  • @Ffourteen
    @Ffourteen Місяць тому +3

    I have half formed memories of this from my childhood, I didn't realize it was real. How dare you make me feel old!

  • @Florian87
    @Florian87 Місяць тому +15

    Ooh, I remember when Lewis and Ben played this game back in 2016. I hope you have as much fun with this as they did, this is such a classic game

  • @beanburritos6393
    @beanburritos6393 Місяць тому +1

    I remember spending so much time on this game 30 years ago. It was such an interesting economic sim.

  • @Vlad2.47
    @Vlad2.47 Місяць тому +3

    My favourite game of all time.

  • @MichaelBulmer-gc4ts
    @MichaelBulmer-gc4ts Місяць тому +2

    Wow, awesome!
    I've wanted this so long!

  • @Sabbalonns
    @Sabbalonns Місяць тому +1

    You can use hot keys which are highglited in yellow for all actions like G for go, R for road, F for fortify etc.

  • @CaptAoife
    @CaptAoife Місяць тому +2

    I've been playing this game on and off since it first came out in like 93. It is one of my all time favorite games. Watching you play for the first time brings back a lot of memories. I'm so happy you're playing Colonization.

    • @Sabbalonns
      @Sabbalonns Місяць тому +1

      Did you every try the modded one freecol? It’s what. I play now !

    • @CaptAoife
      @CaptAoife Місяць тому +1

      @@Sabbalonns Yes! But it just didn't quite scratch the nostalgia itch.

    • @Sabbalonns
      @Sabbalonns Місяць тому +1

      @@CaptAoife yeah thats true for me too

  • @Xhalph
    @Xhalph Місяць тому +5

    I grew up in a Mac household, so I played the Mac port, which came out a bit later than the PC version. The port actually had slightly nicer graphics and markedly better music,
    Fun fact: In both versions of the game and I think even the Civ IV version, you can assign an unlimited number of distillers. Also, the high-end "factory" buildings that grant +50% output relative to raw materials (e.g. process 6 sugar into 9 rum instead of 6) actually just add that bonus output out of thin air. So you can build a colony whose tiles just produce food, build a rum factory there, and have dozens of distillers making magic bonus rum.

    • @elWhiteNinja1
      @elWhiteNinja1 Місяць тому

      No way the music was better. This game was my childhood. I'm jammin right now

  • @eddego
    @eddego Місяць тому +1

    I was playing this in ‘95. I managed to copy the game from a library rental. Played it for ages… still have a copy now on my iPad. Play it every now n again…

  • @Mathmachine
    @Mathmachine Місяць тому +24

    Got to say, your patrons have some really good taste.

  • @vrubim
    @vrubim Місяць тому +1

    Nice to see this game again, played it in the the final 90`s. Great video, Potato!

  • @danieleads1266
    @danieleads1266 Місяць тому +2

    Love this game. Childhood memories, thank you.

  • @Meowten
    @Meowten Місяць тому +1

    One of my favorite games from the era. Would love to see more!

  • @AzureAlliance31
    @AzureAlliance31 Місяць тому +2

    Always take the trade advisor until you get the one who unlocks Custom Houses; then you can autosell your stuff in a city that has a custom house & you will never be stuck taking a tax increase

    • @Sabbalonns
      @Sabbalonns Місяць тому

      Very true it kills the fun of sailing but its a game changer

  • @_the_bomb
    @_the_bomb Місяць тому +2

    Love this game! I’m 22 but I still actively play it because my computer can run it easily, unlike everything else.

  • @Xiuhtec
    @Xiuhtec Місяць тому +1

    1994 was a time when keyboard control was very much the norm and mice were an afterthought. I see this gave you no end of trouble.

  • @peterbarlow7781
    @peterbarlow7781 Місяць тому +2

    Duuuuuuude!!!!! This game SLAPPED! Good memories. I was 10 years old when this came out.

  • @pedroneves8913
    @pedroneves8913 Місяць тому

    Love this game! Played since it came out and still play it nowadays from time to time!
    Would like to see more you figuring out the game 😄

  • @daz7338
    @daz7338 Місяць тому +1

    The 'Fur party' mistake made me laugh out loud. Was difficult to explain to my family

  • @MarkGrayJr
    @MarkGrayJr Місяць тому

    This was my FIRST video game I ever played, I think. It's amazing to see it again!

  • @adamslabaugh2734
    @adamslabaugh2734 Місяць тому

    Loved this game, pry my fav civ game. Can’t believe such a big channel played this game!

  • @krait5645
    @krait5645 Місяць тому +2

    Literally 1994

  • @fanetv390
    @fanetv390 Місяць тому

    The only game I have kept coming back to throughout my life

  • @AsmodeusMictian
    @AsmodeusMictian Місяць тому

    Such a fantastic game. I used to play this on my friend's IBM PC. Just a lot of fun :D

  • @georgep.burdell7237
    @georgep.burdell7237 Місяць тому

    I'm playing the Khmer challenge and enjoying it.
    Thank you! 👍👍👍

  • @KurkkuGo
    @KurkkuGo Місяць тому

    I remember when i was a kid, my cousin had this game and he was making a world map with his dad for this game. I saw them once or twice a year and the map slowly progressed. Good stuff!

  • @TheNoldaz
    @TheNoldaz Місяць тому +2

    Yeah they still had the right opinion about colonization back then. Colonization wasnt military it was commercial, at least with the french and north america. French were respectful of the indigenous and traded. Also the french colony was underpopulated vs british colonies

  • @GregMcNeish
    @GregMcNeish Місяць тому

    Oh hell yes! Played LOADS of Colonization, back in the day.

  • @side-beeetaloniswolfwolfac4179
    @side-beeetaloniswolfwolfac4179 Місяць тому +2

    My grade 4-5 teacher used this game as an aid to teach about colonialism, and I got addicted lol. To this day I still haven't won a game.

  • @Sabbalonns
    @Sabbalonns Місяць тому

    Been waiting for this one for a long time ! Remember this game was made to be played with only a keyboard

  • @iNcog_AoE
    @iNcog_AoE Місяць тому

    I LOVED THIS GAME SO MUCH WHEN I WAS A KID. I think it's such an actually genuinely good and fun game!!!

  • @azimuthclark462
    @azimuthclark462 Місяць тому

    What a classic. I love this game. All the playthroughs are fun. Great video choice o7

  • @nimmr
    @nimmr Місяць тому

    I guess you're going fishing with that starting city :D Absolutely love seeing you massacre one of my favorite games from my youth (which I still play from time to time). Rough start btw, with the english right next to you :)

  • @chessguy246
    @chessguy246 Місяць тому

    This, sir, this right here, this is the STUFF. 👍🔥

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 Місяць тому

    I would like a part 2, this is bananas

  • @hesthatguy
    @hesthatguy Місяць тому

    Nice work eschewing the manual and diving head first into a game like that. That's how I like to run my channel.

  • @garryrobinson8091
    @garryrobinson8091 Місяць тому

    Played this game back on my Amiga 500. Like Civ 1 always found using keyboard to move around easier than using a mouse back in those days. Even still have the strategy guide.

  • @tomtorres212
    @tomtorres212 Місяць тому

    omg, those golden times....almost the only things i did in the late 90s: Raving hard and playing this ;)

  • @ewokgrundle9471
    @ewokgrundle9471 Місяць тому

    Amazing pick. Thank you patreon ppl

  • @roro6921
    @roro6921 Місяць тому

    I loved this game so much.

  • @civ-fanboy2137
    @civ-fanboy2137 Місяць тому +1

    I recently started to play the Civ4-Version of Colonization again :D

  • @TehJumpingJawa
    @TehJumpingJawa Місяць тому

    Finally! Someone covers the (second?) best not-Civ Civ game!😍
    Such fond memories of this game..... and utter frustration at the bugs!
    I recall automated trade routes were incredibly buggy once you had several of them active, which was incredibly disappointing because setting up a complex web of caravans & ships feeding raw resources from your undeveloped towns, into your big factory cities was really satisfying.
    We're long overdue a reimaginging of this game's theme & mechanics. (Civ4Col didn't do it justice)

  • @alexanderratai5011
    @alexanderratai5011 Місяць тому

    How can you not know this game??? I loved playing it 😊

  • @rennaaa6667
    @rennaaa6667 Місяць тому

    Man i love the og colonization.

  • @magnusevald
    @magnusevald Місяць тому

    All time favorite game! 😄

  • @staf481
    @staf481 Місяць тому

    Potato, I bought this game right when it got published. For many years it was my favourite, together with the Civ series and Sid Meier’s Pirates! which I played with a Commodore64…
    I still play it from time to time… and today I had an almost unearthly experience, I thought I could never know how to play a Sid Meier’s game better than you!
    (Won’t be so for long, I am sure…)

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble Місяць тому

    The face of the French king is like a fever nightmare version of a human face lmao!

  • @alistairmorrison569
    @alistairmorrison569 Місяць тому

    Oh the memories.

  • @XBuilderBob
    @XBuilderBob Місяць тому

    I was born the year this game came out.... kind of wild its better than I expected LOL

  • @OhMeGaGS
    @OhMeGaGS Місяць тому

    I only ever played the Civ 4 version, this is fascinating.

  • @jaker3856
    @jaker3856 Місяць тому +1

    At 15 minutes, ABC - Always Be Choppin'.

    • @CriticalMassIndex
      @CriticalMassIndex Місяць тому

      Ironically he doomed that city’s lumber production with that chop, given its water-heavy location. I wonder if they made that system work the way it does to trick players used to the basically unequivocal benefits of chopping in Civ, and teach a little lesson about unrestrained resource exploitation

  • @doodmonkey
    @doodmonkey Місяць тому

    That's where I started! I feel old

  • @PhailRaptor
    @PhailRaptor Місяць тому +1

    @PotatoMcWhiskey just a heads up, this game was recreated in the Civ 4 engine and released as a component of the Beyond the Sword complete edition

    • @mikaruyami
      @mikaruyami 24 дні тому

      There're also a few decent mods for Civ4 Col that add quite a bit of depth.

  • @ducky449
    @ducky449 Місяць тому

    OMG such a blast from the past! I can't tell you how many hours I put into this game!

  • @lfavaro
    @lfavaro Місяць тому

    I love this game

  • @nufinul
    @nufinul Місяць тому

    I used to love this game 🥰

  • @KazekanAgiel
    @KazekanAgiel 22 дні тому

    Came for the nostalgia, stayed for the amazing accents. 👍

  • @Sabbalonns
    @Sabbalonns Місяць тому

    There is a fantastic mod for this game called FreCol which overhauls a lot of the bugs and broken elements of this game. It also overhauls the UI which is thought was a shame but its much easier to understand

  • @AFNacapella
    @AFNacapella Місяць тому

    "We've found the Fountain of Youth..."
    (look for "Virginia Company - One Misty Moisty Morning")

  • @chrismarr3579
    @chrismarr3579 Місяць тому

    Hey Potato, you need to put a citizen in the carpenter shop and have available lumber to build things IIRC. That’s based on Civ iv colonization, but I believe it works the same way. Working the shop with available lumber consumes the lumber to produce hammers.

  • @masonsnakes4721
    @masonsnakes4721 Місяць тому +2

    Amazing video! If you're fishing in this pool.....Play 'Populous' the OG from this platform.

  • @IronSalamander8
    @IronSalamander8 Місяць тому

    Aah, the memories! Was never very good at this one, but it's a good game to be sure.

  • @jhebs
    @jhebs Місяць тому

    Goodness I loved this game!

  • @ZacharyDial
    @ZacharyDial Місяць тому +2

    I know that art styles and graphics have progressed but there's something about these older games that just looks and sounds magical.
    Edit: Please note, this was posted before the 2:17 mark 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

    • @Zongooo
      @Zongooo Місяць тому

      2:17 Crikey!

  • @Ukotoa
    @Ukotoa 3 дні тому

    Game from my childhood) It was amazing to master)

  • @nevar108
    @nevar108 Місяць тому

    Freaking loved this game.
    Fur trading for days!

  • @gramnal8067
    @gramnal8067 Місяць тому

    Yes! Love this game

  • @eekabott
    @eekabott Місяць тому

    I Miss this game hope it's get remake soon.

  • @Justhappypancake
    @Justhappypancake Місяць тому

    Oh YES! I love this game

  • @otisthetowndrunk
    @otisthetowndrunk Місяць тому

    My 2nd fav sid game next to Pirates

  • @henryburch3537
    @henryburch3537 Місяць тому +1

    I'd love to see you have a go at Alpha Centauri if you're doing old civ games. I've been playing it recently and it's aged fantastically.

  • @theeutecticpoint
    @theeutecticpoint Місяць тому

    a real classic!

  • @R3medy0f
    @R3medy0f Місяць тому

    best game ever, lost my childhood to this on dos

  • @Shauma_llama
    @Shauma_llama Місяць тому

    I seem to remember playing this, some of this sounds very familiar. Ooh, looked up on wiki, I DID play this. 😊

  • @eredaane4656
    @eredaane4656 Місяць тому

    damm, this is a fucking throwback to 2005, when I found this shit in a shoebox in a wardrobe :O it was in my uncles games stash (together with gems like daggerfall, the Guild and Wildlife Park). I played this on an old box we had for us kids on Win97. I quickly changed to CivII and the settlers tho.

  • @brianwalsh288
    @brianwalsh288 Місяць тому

    Colonization is such a good game.

  • @sejrlund
    @sejrlund Місяць тому

    In civ vi terms liberty bells are research and crosses are culture. Using missionaries to establish mission lets your crosses affect tribes as well - without it it makes people appear on the docks faster. You want to focus a few colonies on food and training and then the rest on exports. Custom house is the most important research, factory is next. Going above 200 food in a colony generates new colonists, keep 1-2 pop generators with mostly fish or farmland and a school to make more farmers and fishermen to have your profitable colonies need as little food tiles as possible (coastal fish with fish icon are great for a profitable colony). Its much easier to play as Spain early on cause killing the natives is absurdly profitable. Colonization actually has some excellent systems for its time and its still enjoyable today.

  • @Jont12gte
    @Jont12gte Місяць тому +1

    the Civ IV version of Colonization would be neat to see i think.

  • @Medixum
    @Medixum Місяць тому

    My dad gave me this game when I was like 10, it was already like almost 15 years old by then lmao

  • @kuribohboi
    @kuribohboi 26 днів тому

    I wasn't even alive yet when this came out and I'm almost mid twenties

  • @Catashe123
    @Catashe123 Місяць тому

    I played this game way too much in the mid 90s to the point when my 6th grade history teacher mentioned sugar cane and asked what did the colonists used to make out of it. I struck him dumb when I mentioned rum and after awhile looked at me and asked how in the world did I know that and I had to explain this game to him lol