SimCity 2000 30 Years Later: An LGR Retrospective

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  • @MrMastercatfish
    @MrMastercatfish Рік тому +4645

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard something so unshocking as the fact that Clint went trick or treating as the box for SimCity 2000

    • @dauntae24
      @dauntae24 Рік тому +231

      He was in deep.

    • @camotech1314
      @camotech1314 Рік тому +106

      ​@@dauntae24still is 😅

    • @TheTrueFool
      @TheTrueFool Рік тому +97

      I read your comment before I started watching the video, and for some reason I was picturing adult LGR trick-or-treating as the game 😂

    • @slimebuck
      @slimebuck Рік тому +52

      @@TheTrueFool i can see it happening

    • @davidt3563
      @davidt3563 Рік тому +7

      That was wild!

  • @sjk5845
    @sjk5845 Рік тому +780

    10 yr old me - “im gonna be Darth Vader for Halloween, I’m gonna be so cool!”
    Clint at 10 yrs old - *dresses as a copy of SimCity 2000*
    35 yr old me - “Clint was the coolest 10 yr old, why wasn’t I that cool?”

    • @Aelffwynn
      @Aelffwynn Рік тому +53

      I dressed as the AOL icon (little yellow running guy) for Halloween one year.
      No one thought it was cool. 😂

    • @snowfoxxie
      @snowfoxxie Рік тому +9

      I thought this was a joke and had a chuckle… until I got to the part of the video 😂

    • @Dr-Weird
      @Dr-Weird Рік тому +6

      Me dressed as Optimus Prime:
      *I have failed my clan*

    • @d3drummerboy
      @d3drummerboy Рік тому +16

      Dressed up as spongebob for halloween 1999 everyone thought i was cheese lol

    • @changedmynamee
      @changedmynamee Рік тому +7

      @@d3drummerboy😂😂😂 tragic

  • @metaleggman18
    @metaleggman18 8 місяців тому +23

    I saw Will Wright at the grocery store a couple months back. It was funny because he seemed so familiar and it took until I left to realize who it was. Apparently he still lives in town. My sister even had the chance to interview him back in high school. Kind of wonder if he'd enjoy someone telling him thanks for all the memories his games gave him as a kid, or if he's at an age where he just wants to be left alone.

    • @criticaloptimist
      @criticaloptimist 4 місяці тому

      I feel like he either would love to hear from you or he can go f himself lol. But I can’t imagine he gets stopped often.

    • @ElTequilla
      @ElTequilla 2 місяці тому +2

      Seeing as he is pretty off from the industry now, I’d imagine he would only be happy to be told that his creation left a mark on you 😊

  • @ArnoldWind
    @ArnoldWind Рік тому +501

    I miss the days when getting just a single game for the year was a massive experience. The game was complete and it would offer countless hours of enjoyment.

    • @Blackadder75
      @Blackadder75 Рік тому +50

      If you were lucky, old games had plenty of bugs already.... I collected and zealously read game magazines since 1987, trust me the reviewers had a lot to complain about for games of the late 80s early 90s . Especially in the roleplaying / adventure genre I was interested in. And shipping incomplete games isn't a new thing either. The big software publishers usually got things reasonably under control, but sometimes you had to ask for a patch disk

    • @CustardCream22
      @CustardCream22 Рік тому +14

      Same. Now it's bug after bug and pay 10x more for the dlc to make it an actual game.

    • @mullaoslo
      @mullaoslo Рік тому +46

      ​@@Blackadder75that's not what he's saying.. He's saying for us 90s kids whatever flaws was there we looked passed since it was most likely our one game for the year and we where able to have fun with that one for a loooong time.. Ofc non of them where perfect but they still came in a compete package with hours of content

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 Рік тому +13

      Yeah most of my childhood was playing SimCity, Civ 2 and Industry Tycoon lol

    • @mr.smileytm
      @mr.smileytm Рік тому +17

      You just miss being young. There are and were tons of shitty ripoff games and plenty of great ones. I'd say we live in the best era of gaming ever if you're willing to look for it.

  • @LewisCollard
    @LewisCollard Рік тому +423

    The "2000" thing is my favourite thing in retrospect. Back when the year 2000 was the future - and being a child at the time, time passed differently and it seemed like the _distant_ future. Thank you for the nostalgia :)

    • @T25de
      @T25de Рік тому +9

      Hey remember that show
      Beyond 2000!
      😂 damn it’s been a while

    • @dijoxx
      @dijoxx Рік тому +25

      Everything had a 2000 in its name around late 90s.

    • @ashley-paul
      @ashley-paul Рік тому +6

      My AoL screen name was my name with 2000 at the end. We all did this.

    • @andrewross6863
      @andrewross6863 Рік тому +8

      That the year was going to be 2000 was such a deal! So exciting (and scary with the news about Y2K or the 'millennium bug' as it got called in the UK - that name evoked interesting imagery when I was a child, still does).

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket 10 місяців тому +2

      @@andrewross6863 "Millennium Bug" would make a good _EarthBound_ enemy.

  • @MothBird
    @MothBird Рік тому +285

    Your story of your grandparents being the most technologically distanced being the ones to get you a game hits me right in the feels but also warms my heart, I miss my Grandma, this is the first Christmas without her

    • @gideonmele1556
      @gideonmele1556 11 місяців тому +8

      Condolences

    • @AnArchyRulzz
      @AnArchyRulzz 11 місяців тому +9

      Condolences. I relate to this as well because my grandparents are the ones who got us all gameboys growing up. I also played Sim City 2000 at their house a lot lol

    • @cmangrum1
      @cmangrum1 11 місяців тому +2

      We have good grandparents

    • @eaglevision993
      @eaglevision993 11 місяців тому +5

      Condolences. My grandma bought me Duke Nukem 3D.

    • @paddleswake8372
      @paddleswake8372 11 місяців тому +2

      My Grandma bought me an NES for my 6th Birthday. Shes been gone now 6 years. I still have it and the original box.

  • @manospondylus
    @manospondylus Рік тому +339

    16:57 Fun fact for those who don’t know, the SimCity 2000 UFO reappears in Spore as a character you meet when you manage to reach the galactic core. It introduces itself as Steve and gives you the staff of life, which can instantly terraform any planet.

    • @ilfardrachadi2318
      @ilfardrachadi2318 Рік тому +29

      I never connected the dots on that one, I just remember being very underwhelmed that the staff had a limited number of uses.

    • @SardonicSays
      @SardonicSays Рік тому +20

      Amusingly the Maxis UFO can also be seen in Simcopter occasionally

    • @tripweed
      @tripweed Рік тому +28

      @@ilfardrachadi2318 42 uses to be exact. Which is also the Answer to the Question of Life, the Universe and Everything.

    • @OscarScheepstra_Artemis_
      @OscarScheepstra_Artemis_ Рік тому +4

      @@SardonicSays And you can shoot it down with the Apache.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 Рік тому +1

      Go figure since that was Will Wright's final game before leaving Maxis.

  • @fritzdog19
    @fritzdog19 Рік тому +301

    Back in high school, i was a pizza delivery driver in Walnut Creek California. I guess Maxis had an office building there and fairly regularly they would have us deliver like 20 large pizzas. The offices were nice stylish similar to their brand graphic design style. They always tipped extremely generously.

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 Рік тому +4

      Walnut Creek is close to Redwood City, so it's not a surprise they might of had a second office in the former.

    • @Niberspace
      @Niberspace Рік тому +11

      Dude! No frikkin way! Did you ever try to slip in your CV between the boxes?

    • @alexyo3927
      @alexyo3927 Рік тому +30

      The tip system in America is dumb

    • @Skyggespil
      @Skyggespil Рік тому +21

      You need to travel more if you think tips are normal in most countries.

    • @Niberspace
      @Niberspace Рік тому +22

      This guy shared a epic nostalgia story and u ppl argue about tips lol

  • @Keen3
    @Keen3 Рік тому +334

    Building a city in Sim City and then flying around it, responding to calls in SimCopter, was probably peak childhood for me.

    • @JohnDoe-ej3wp
      @JohnDoe-ej3wp Рік тому +34

      Same. The concept of interacting with a construct from a different game was mind blowing to me as a 7th grader.

    • @skunkwerkz777
      @skunkwerkz777 Рік тому +7

      I was obsessed with Flight Sim and Sim city so this was a no brainer.

    • @Sir_Austin_T_Gee
      @Sir_Austin_T_Gee Рік тому +5

      I forget the name of it, but there was also another game you could your SC2K save into and drive around it. But highways always bugged it…

    • @randsnyder2533
      @randsnyder2533 Рік тому +14

      ​@@Sir_Austin_T_GeeStreets of Sim City (I think)

    • @michaelcook7107
      @michaelcook7107 Рік тому +6

      Yes. Though it sadly was a pretty crappy game. SimCopter was awesome.

  • @awizard2006
    @awizard2006 Рік тому +406

    "I knew everything about computers! I was 10 years old!" Man that quote resonates with me deep. I was the exact same way in my childhood. Too computer literate for my own good.

    • @veggiet2009
      @veggiet2009 Рік тому +7

      Same

    • @surject
      @surject Рік тому +7

      Dito. Unfortunately I didn't knew about ALT-X to skip the 18+ quiz at the start of LSL1 :/ But I just made my own "guess + write the correct answers down" game out of it.

    • @Twi66e
      @Twi66e Рік тому +9

      Yeh after watching the movie Hackers and coming up with my own “handle” I thought I was gunna take over the world

    • @Syniron
      @Syniron Рік тому +6

      Nothing makes me feel older than a game I played as a child being 30 years old.

    • @childofcascadia
      @childofcascadia Рік тому +4

      @surject
      What I find really funny is without the internet I could only answer about 2/3rds of the LSL1 questions. Im in my late 30s-early 40s.

  • @shikonaori
    @shikonaori Рік тому +441

    That story about your childhood was so precious lol. It was like a nerdier, contemporary version of A Christmas Story 😂

    • @WebeloZappBrannigan
      @WebeloZappBrannigan Рік тому +21

      SC2000?... you'll get a DOS prompt kid! Why don't you have a copy of John Madden Football instead?

    • @KabukiKid
      @KabukiKid Рік тому +9

      "You'll burn down the city, kid."

    • @Birdie_
      @Birdie_ Рік тому +1

      Probably very autistic, too.

    • @fryncyaryorvjink2140
      @fryncyaryorvjink2140 Рік тому +5

      Man I can relate to so many parts of that story, I thought I loved sc2k but lgr took it to a whole other level! The part where his grandparents gave him the game made me tear up a bit

    • @ken131
      @ken131 Рік тому +6

      He even looked like Ralphie a bit 😂

  • @Craggius13
    @Craggius13 Рік тому +71

    30 years later and this still gives me warm and fuzzy feelings. This and Oregon Trail are some of my first video game memories.

  • @novaprospekt
    @novaprospekt Рік тому +229

    Clint, you really captured that feeling as a kid of obsessing over a new game and the excitement of finally getting your hands on it. Its just not the same as an adult anymore when I can just log onto Steam and have any game I want with the click of a button. Aaaaah nostalgia.

    • @DarshUK1
      @DarshUK1 Рік тому +66

      Reading game manuals in the car on the way home is a ridiculously cozy memory for me lol

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill Рік тому +20

      @@DarshUK1 Sadly, game manuals are but a cozy memory now.

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack Рік тому +4

      I don't use steam, I buy every game I want on disc, so I can still be excited over the new games.

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 Рік тому +12

      @@MrWolfSnack if you're "lucky" you buy a disc with an online installer. Most of the time it's an empty box with a download code. The only game that I bought on disc in the last ~3 years that actually included the game on the disc was Cyberpunk 2077 and that game probably doesn't have a single file in common with the disc version in it's current patch version.

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack Рік тому

      lol the delusions of people that have no idea what they are talking about. @@megapro125

  • @Dhips.
    @Dhips. Рік тому +235

    One of my most played childhood games. That "Zzzt" sound effect is so ingrained in my memory I still hear it when I play modern city builders.

    • @Rationalmethod995
      @Rationalmethod995 Рік тому +6

      It was the first thing I thought of when I started this video.

    • @jmal
      @jmal Рік тому +4

      For me, it's the "KA-POW" sound when you bulldoze a building.

    • @thegamingwolf8755
      @thegamingwolf8755 Рік тому +1

      Sim City 2000 is one of those games i enjoyed playing the most, it was such a great game.

    • @Knight_Kin
      @Knight_Kin Рік тому +5

      ZZZT... ZZZT ZZZT... ZZZT ZZZT ZZZT....

    • @Checker201lol
      @Checker201lol Рік тому

      I didn't even play sc2000 and solely know it from lgr videos, but it feels like I was born wit that sound in my head

  • @thestoneworks
    @thestoneworks Рік тому +48

    it was ridiculous how fun and immersive Sim city was, owned every one of them, and SimCity 2000, and 4 was mind blowing

    • @endrankluvsda4loko172
      @endrankluvsda4loko172 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, I still have 4 and play it from time to time, though I recently got Skylines and have been playing just it lately. 2000 was also definitely a favorite back in the day

  • @jhampdoc
    @jhampdoc Рік тому +124

    I remember trying to install this in my computer, probably late 1995, only for it not to work. So, my mother had to call long-distance call Maxis support in California so they could make some custom DOS script so it could run on my computer. What a memory!

    • @ciscornBIG
      @ciscornBIG Рік тому +42

      They guy at best buy created a boot menu so that we could either boot in to win3.11 or boot in to sc2k. It was so cool.

    • @andrewhudson7108
      @andrewhudson7108 Рік тому +25

      Back in the day when installing a game felt like you needed a ph.d in computer science. Miss the 90s but enjoy now just being able to click “download and install”

    • @joekenorer
      @joekenorer Рік тому +6

      I must have wiped my friends hdd a half dozen times experimenting to get games to work. It wasn't fun reinstalling 3.11 by 3-1/4 floppy. I've never done a 95 or 98 floppy install but I've seen the stacks they come in and I'm just glad.

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk Рік тому +3

      My Packard Bell had no ram upgrades, so I learned out of necessity how to make a boot disk.

    • @cericat
      @cericat Рік тому +1

      By the time I got it (SC2k SE) I was extremely used to dealing with the fact a lot of games hated my SB Pro 2 or had specific memory requirements that caused fuss so custom bootloaders were something I learned to handle for myself before I hit high school (years 7-12 here).

  • @JoseMVelazquez
    @JoseMVelazquez Рік тому +161

    There isn't a UA-cam channel I can relate more than LGR! Listening to Clint talk about his childhood brings so many memories of my own growing up here in Mexico City, fills me with nostalgia. This channel is my happy place.

    • @tristikov
      @tristikov Рік тому +6

      Legit. No matter what else is going on in life, revisiting the wonderous times of childhood with LGR and old games soothes the soul.

    • @revoltosotintan
      @revoltosotintan Рік тому +1

      La neta

    • @Luisramcantu
      @Luisramcantu Рік тому +1

      Absolutely agree with Clint's childhood Sim City gaming obsession, although for me was SC3000.

  • @SLagonia
    @SLagonia Рік тому +29

    I was obsessed with this game as a kid. I had so many strategy guides that I would just read through them for fun. I became a master of every scenario and could get the full Arco-city in no-time.
    When SCURK came out, it became my passion. I was designing buildings left and right. I even made statues of cartoon characters.
    I still play SC4 - There's a thriving online community for it.

    • @SamsonScorpio
      @SamsonScorpio 10 місяців тому +1

      Get your old computer running, dig up your files and make a video!!!

  • @telekineticguineapig7419
    @telekineticguineapig7419 Рік тому +317

    My father died 5 years ago today. I am on UA-cam trying not to be sad, and this video was timed with absolute perfection. It is a good memory. He was obsessed with this game. He used the editor and the color-changing spots to animate a man walking his dog, a carousel and a ferris wheel. If I recall, he replaced the power plants with those items. I wish I still had that old hard drive so that I could go back and look at his Sim City artwork. It was phenomenal.

    • @HansLemurson
      @HansLemurson Рік тому +26

      That's amazing, and you have my sympathy for your loss.

    • @IreneWY
      @IreneWY Рік тому +10

      I am sorry for your loss.

    • @18snej
      @18snej Рік тому +10

      Thanks for sharing. Love. ❤❤❤

    • @fluffyfoxbunny
      @fluffyfoxbunny Рік тому +7

      Sorry for your loss, I hope the good memories stay with you forever. It's nice to see video games bring families and friends together

    • @coreymaley4519
      @coreymaley4519 Рік тому +14

      I also have SC2K memories with my dad. He loved the game and refused to move on to simcity 3000. My brothers and I used to make a backup of his city, then burn down half the original city, save it in mid-disaster, and then wait for the inevitable "ahh what happened to my city!?"

  • @OscarScheepstra_Artemis_
    @OscarScheepstra_Artemis_ Рік тому +167

    Sim Copter is still one of my absolutely favorite games of that era, and the game really deserved a proper remake. And the Sim City 2000 intro music still pops out in my head almost daily.

    • @K.a.r.a.k.a.n
      @K.a.r.a.k.a.n Рік тому

      @@ShadowAngel18606 Maybe he enjoys real life too. And isn't playing video games 24/7 like you braindead zombie.

    • @Alianger
      @Alianger Рік тому +5

      It was my GTA 3 back in the day haha

    • @chrislemery8178
      @chrislemery8178 Рік тому +6

      Sim Copter was awesome, I never did the driving one but I played the crap outta sim copter.

    • @WackoMcGoose
      @WackoMcGoose Рік тому +6

      I did a SimCopter playthrough on my other channel a few years ago... Great fun, but I forgot how _brutal_ the difficulty gets in later levels with how fast missions come at you! Also, the ability to import your own SC2000 cities was _incredible_ for child me to be like "I built this, and now, I'm flying in it!"

    • @Domarius64
      @Domarius64 Рік тому +1

      Oh man, that thing was so clunky, and awesome... I'll never forget how great it felt in the early days of 3D to explore these worlds from a more immersive perspective.

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington Рік тому +74

    that OG simcity aesthetic / isometric view is so magical

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Рік тому +1

      I wonder how hard it would be to make a procedural system for generating sprites for use in one?

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Рік тому +4

      @@Roxor128 Ask the OpenTTD community, they're still making sprites for a similar game. :) I'm pretty sure they have guides on their wiki. They use Blender to ease the workload, though I think they usually do some touching-up by hand. They tried introducing 32-bit color at one point, but it didn't take off. The 256-color sprites ended up looking better.
      Wesnoth have made more of a success of 32-bit isometric graphics.

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Рік тому +2

      This game had a few things that others didn't, like the Arcologies and "auras".

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Рік тому +3

      @@freeculture Oh yeah, I remember some people hating arcologies. Couldn't understand it myself, because I'd grown up on art & sci-fi which featured essentially the same concept. But now I think about it, if the game is city planning, arcologies feel a little bit like a cheat. :)

    • @Sorvetedchocolat
      @Sorvetedchocolat 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@freeculturedoesn't SimCity 3000 has auras as well?

  • @jamesbernald2850
    @jamesbernald2850 Рік тому +129

    Really cool episode! It’s like an LGR origin story.

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 Рік тому +12

      It's basically Chapter 2 of him, between Crystal Caves and Duke Nukem 3D.

  • @Draugoth
    @Draugoth Рік тому +200

    It's been 30 YEARS?! Way to make me feel old.
    I have so many stories of the thousands of hours I put into sc2000. I used to have SCURK as well, and it was the coolest thing to be able to design your own buildings and we had fan pages with custom made buildings back then. People made the WTC, Chrysler building, you name it. Pure magic.

    • @andysorensen1737
      @andysorensen1737 Рік тому +2

      My dad and I used to play SC2000 together as well. The day he introduced SCURK my mind was absolutely blown as a 5 year old.

    • @d3drummerboy
      @d3drummerboy Рік тому +2

      I remember the SCURK and all the buildings i created as a kid so many custom ones and shared them
      online over dial up so many years ago cant believe its been so long ago

    • @Draugoth
      @Draugoth Рік тому +1

      @@d3drummerboy yup, good ol days of dial up, combing thru the net for SCURK builds. I never liked the abandoned building designs from the base game, so those were the first to get replaced.

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 Рік тому +2

      IKR? I was almost 30 at the time, and worked in software in Mountain View at the time... and yes; I went home and played SC2000 as soon as it came out. Those 30 years really flashed by, didn't they??

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer Рік тому +2

      I bought the SE edition with Will TV and SCURK and the latter was key to truly getting the best experience out of Streets of SimCity. Just like in the modern Skate 2/3 glitch videos where people see how high they can launch themselves, I'd figure out methods and buildings which could be used to get my car as high in the air as possible.

  • @LeuNoeleeste
    @LeuNoeleeste Рік тому +10

    I randomly got this video recommended. The sheer passion you exhibit for SimCity 2K is so wholesome I had to listen to the entire thing. Good job

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois Рік тому +281

    I knew Clint was obsessed with SimCity but going trick or treating as a SimCity 2000 box is a whole new level of obsession (and I love it!!!!! >

    • @ainlLeek
      @ainlLeek Рік тому +3

      There's plenty of stuff I did as a kid that that makes me cringe when I remember, but I never went that far.

    • @banban5568
      @banban5568 Рік тому +9

      ​@@ainlLeekwhy was it cringe? he was a kid who loved his simcity 2000

    • @Crypted112
      @Crypted112 Рік тому +2

      @@ainlLeek dressing up as a copy of simcity 2000 is pretty tame imo

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 11 місяців тому

      ​@@ainlLeekMan, this comment is pretty cringe.

    • @autumnwinter3639
      @autumnwinter3639 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ainlLeek you are soulless

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast Рік тому +63

    This video is exactly why I've loved this channel for so long. You make so many of us feel like we weren't alone in our incredible nerdy-ness and passion for this stuff. Your list of "hints" you left in order to get this for a holiday gift is SO familiar to many of us. I used to draw the logo for certain games and leave them on my dads desk or the fridge or even on the bathroom door LOL. I would draw the logo and a list of where the game was available. At one point there were several drawings around my house that had the Kings Quest V logo followed by the words "available now at Babbages, Software, Etc and probably Meijer" haha.

  • @tyrus1235
    @tyrus1235 Рік тому +18

    SimCity 2000 and Civilization II were two of my favorite games for my PSOne back in the day. As a kid (and a non-native English speaker), a lot of its more complex details escaped me, but the whole spectacle of building your own city/civilization and watching it grow was mesmerizing. The soundtrack of SC2K is something I treasure to this day as one of the soundtracks from that era that stuck with me.
    Back then, I didn't have unrestricted access to a PC, so those PS1 ports were my jam!

    • @condemned1982
      @condemned1982 11 місяців тому

      SC2K and Civ2 are two of my biggest childhood touchstone games (but for PC) as well!

    • @anonymouschicken20
      @anonymouschicken20 3 місяці тому

      When is Civ not a favorite game? I think those who have not played Civ or SimCity/Sims are missing out.

  • @saeklin
    @saeklin Рік тому +55

    I highly enjoyed using money cheats right at the beginning and laying out an entire city grid while paused, then unpausing and watching it fill up organically. The challenge was planning for all the utilities and services ahead of time, and then finding out how efficient the layout worked.

    • @rutgerb
      @rutgerb Рік тому +4

      That was my joy in ttd and openttd, growing cities😅

    • @a2d
      @a2d Рік тому +1

      Priscilla

    • @fb-ws3gb
      @fb-ws3gb Рік тому +4

      Thats exactly what I did, my record as a 13 year old was working 12 hours straight on my perfect City layout without getting up

    • @Chunes3
      @Chunes3 Рік тому +2

      I'm really surprised the video didn't go into the cheats at all. It's an entire can of worms.

  • @UndyingNephalim
    @UndyingNephalim Рік тому +111

    It is really hard to express in words how much of an insanely massive update 2000 felt like compared to the original.

    • @JavierSalcedoC
      @JavierSalcedoC Рік тому +12

      Civ 1 to Civ 2 comes to mind

    • @SynthwaveDuck
      @SynthwaveDuck Рік тому

      Totally different and better game

    • @DPtheOG
      @DPtheOG Рік тому +1

      It was an insanely massive update to gaming in general. SC2k was the only game I had which ran in SVGA.

  • @tyelerhiggins300
    @tyelerhiggins300 11 місяців тому +10

    I got a PS2 for Christmas when I was 9 or so, and my parents got three games with it: Nascar Thunder 2003, a Scooby Doo game, and PS1 SimCity 2000. I had no idea what I was doing, but I loved those games.

  • @Blown4banger
    @Blown4banger Рік тому +66

    SimCity 2000 and Roller Coaster Tycoon were two of my most played games in the 90s. Soooo much nostalgia!

    • @CowmanUK
      @CowmanUK Рік тому +1

      Haha exact same 2 games for me too! And I still play them occasionally for nostalgia sake.

    • @awesome220
      @awesome220 Рік тому +1

      Amen

    • @STOCKHOLM07
      @STOCKHOLM07 Рік тому +1

      A man of culture.

    • @JavierSalcedoC
      @JavierSalcedoC Рік тому +1

      Railroad Tycoon to close the trilogy. And a very special mention to Theme Park

    • @shanmarie4122
      @shanmarie4122 Рік тому +1

      I was Clint's equivalent obsessed child to Roller Coaster Tycoon. I loved that game so much.

  • @adonnis1
    @adonnis1 Рік тому +109

    This man has a way with words. His storytelling never disappoints!

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers 11 місяців тому +85

    Can relate to not getting the game to work. Sim City 3000 had an Unlimited edition that wasn't compatible with our computer.
    The intro animation was awesome though. We ended up getting the base SimCity 3000 instead.
    An amazing soundtrack. I'm not sure if I ever "won" the game but the disasters were memorable.

  • @Twistingfergus
    @Twistingfergus Рік тому +44

    Reading through guidebooks before getting the game was such a 90s thing. I knew how to play through the entire Joan of Arc campaign from AOE 2 and Pokemon Red long before I finally got them.

    • @BirdmanDeuce26
      @BirdmanDeuce26 Рік тому +6

      Or reading Tips&Tricks back to front so thoroughly you had fully formed opinions of games on systems you didn’t even have 😂

    • @russianbear0027
      @russianbear0027 Рік тому +1

      I really miss this and detailed back of box blurbs. I feel like I'm going in nearly blind nowadays when picking up a physical game

    • @limelizard1
      @limelizard1 Рік тому +1

      I was such a dork as a kid. I was obsessed with Apple and would check out a giant book called the Macintosh Encylopidia from the library. It was the first place I heard of MYST and I had to have it. Also got that for Christmas one year.

    • @kylercummins3445
      @kylercummins3445 Рік тому

      Omg I remember the Joan of Arc Campaign from AOE 2 haha AOE 2 was the first time I played a multiplayer game over the internet, I played my best friend from two houses down…it felt like a major event for us at the time lol

  • @sambrown9494
    @sambrown9494 Рік тому +29

    It's absolutely amazing what they could fit on two floppy disks back then! Entire worlds. Why does my phone's "torch" app take 78MB of space?! - I love the enthusiasm here for the game! I was exactly the same with Elite II: Frontier, when it came out in 1993. The box was stuffed with dreams, even if the hardware struggled a bit! 😀

    • @yrobtsvt
      @yrobtsvt Рік тому +2

      Yeah what the hell was that? If you know this game, with all the graphics and sounds and algorithms, you know how crazy that is

    • @cericat
      @cericat Рік тому +2

      @@yrobtsvt loads of overheads involved sadly, and it's not uncommon people push to release and forget to remove stuff like debugging symbols (dev tools for tracking issues that shouldn't be on production but it happens) or include other stuff that's completely unnecessary, also ads, every app has its own ad cache on Android as I see whenever I do a cleanup of the filesystem.
      But then too the game is relatively simple graphically overall, beautiful for the time though, and was compressed on the disks so the install was more like 5.4 megs IIRC.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Рік тому +1

      Might want to look into whether you can switch your phone's OS to something other than what the manufacturer provided. I switched mine to LineageOS and jumped from Android 5 to 11. Also, the download was a third the size of Samsung's one (under 500MB, vs 1.5GB).

  • @IainShepherd1
    @IainShepherd1 Рік тому +5

    Clint, you make a legacy of your own with things like these. Great package and very thorough just as the subject deserves. Hopefully UA-cam is here another 30 years and we can watch it again. 🙂

  • @UmJammerChelle
    @UmJammerChelle Рік тому +11

    I loved SimCity 2000 as a kid despite never knowing what I was doing. I remember being weirdly obsessed the newspapers the game generated and would always read every new one in full. I still have fond memories of coming home from school and rushing to the computer to play it and Roller Coaster Tycoon.

  • @collisw8302
    @collisw8302 Рік тому +28

    Hearing your childhood stories of obsession with Sim City is very relatable. Thanks for sharing, Clint!
    My friend and I created our own paper board game version of Sim City at our after school care place. My friends last name was Sime so we called it Sime City lol.
    It basically had no rules and was just a chance for us to draw our favourite buildings and stick them to a map while we waited to get to go home and play the real thing.

  • @whatshisface04
    @whatshisface04 Рік тому +7

    The hours my brothers and I spent playing both SimCity 2000 and 3000. They were staples of my childhood.

  • @IronHeel
    @IronHeel Рік тому +91

    These LGR retrospectives are a thing of beauty

    • @Jolgeable
      @Jolgeable Рік тому +5

      Yes, beyond the knowledge, he's a great storyteller. =)

    • @onlysuffer
      @onlysuffer Рік тому +2

      Agree, its nostaligic comfot food.

  • @dsallen7914
    @dsallen7914 Рік тому +39

    As much as I loved Classic and spent hours with it, 2000 was such a total improvement over it in every way, that playing Classic was just never the same again.

  • @msaliceusername
    @msaliceusername Рік тому +14

    This has unlocked a deep memory for me. In the early 2000s, I seem to recall getting an chocolate egg for easter that came with a CD rom copy of SimCity 2000 (or possible the OG SimCity, hard to remember all these years later). Does anyone remember this? This was in the UK and I think they did other CD rom game + easter egg combos.

  • @rigell2764
    @rigell2764 Рік тому +45

    Sim City 2000 and Transport Tycoon were two games that basically defined my childhood.

    • @Osprey850
      @Osprey850 Рік тому +7

      I loved Transport Tycoon. I wonder if Clint missed out on it, since I just searched and didn't find any videos from him on it. It came out around the same time as SimCity 2000, so it makes sense that he didn't get it if it took him years to get the game that he was most obsessed over.

    • @mhuk1220
      @mhuk1220 Рік тому +3

      Omg transport tycoon and TT delux. Take me back!!

    • @davidmcgill1000
      @davidmcgill1000 Рік тому

      ahh TTD, the game that never expects you to play for days in a single save to the point that inflation makes everything unaffordable, and every vehicle can no longer be bought because they got so old. Helicopters being the worst offender.

    • @EmperorJake
      @EmperorJake Рік тому

      OpenTTD still has an active modding community around it

  • @LakesideGazer
    @LakesideGazer Рік тому +23

    I refuse to believe that I was 20 when this game came out. Nope. I can't be that dang old. On a related note, listening to the music unlocks some very old emotions of fun times playing that game.

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer Рік тому +2

      I heard that music at 17:55 and was immediately transported back to a sunny Saturday morning in my parents basement.

  • @superhooch
    @superhooch Рік тому +3

    Fantastic, this kind of video is my favourite on your channel and an absolute joy. The nostalgia is unreal! Some of your finest work sir.

  • @nazaryn
    @nazaryn Рік тому +26

    Your Christmas story about wanting Sim2K warms my heart and is one of the most pure things I've heard on UA-cam in recent memory, including your box art costume. I too, wanted Sim2K and couldn't get it, it was through the Scholastic Book Fair and my parents never gave me any money. Now, 20-30 years later, it's abandonware and I've got a machine around 1.4 million times faster than what I had back then. Keep making videos dude, you make us smile.

  • @Dusty78dk
    @Dusty78dk Рік тому +24

    The story about your love for the game is so fantastic. With all the strategy guides you have digested, I would love to see you do a "let's play SimCity 2000", even though I know that's not really your thing here on UA-cam. But I would love a video like that as a christmas gift ;)

  • @ValhallaOrBust85
    @ValhallaOrBust85 Рік тому +5

    If SC2K wasn't the first game I played, it was the first game I ever really got into. You nailed everything on your video. Dealing with DOS, the detailed books at book stores, and the spin offs it produced. I think you're the first person I've seen to even mention SimCopter, which I played the shit out of that one too.
    Great video, quite a throwback.

  • @PRKLGaming
    @PRKLGaming Рік тому +23

    Seeing how his love for city builders we all know manifested as a kid is so endearing. Clint is a treasure!

  • @CrS0CrashPL
    @CrS0CrashPL Рік тому +41

    Holy crap, hearing Clint's SC2000 story unlocked a core memory in my brain. I remember being absolutely OBSESSED with the demo versions of MDK and Little Big Adventure 2 I had on one shareware CD as a little kid. Replayed these countless times, and while I was able to easily track down a copy of MDK, I spent literal years searching for LBA2. These two are still one of my childhood favourites and games I cherish to this day.

    • @Thegreatreceiver
      @Thegreatreceiver Рік тому +4

      Great story Fren! I too became obsessed with LBA after playing the demo on pc Format Gold CD Rom. LBA2 arrived on the scene shortly after that and I snapped it up from the shop lavisciously. I'm pleased to say that if I turn my head to the left slightly, i can see them sitting side by side on my Ikea Kalax. Full retail LBA2, EA Classics LBA1 :) I was devastated after I lent LBA2 to my best friend at secondary(high) school, and when he gave it back the box was all tattered around the edges where it had been in his school bag for days. We'll both be 40 next year and I still don't let him forget it XD

    • @krux02
      @krux02 Рік тому +1

      I just want to point out that LBA1 and LBA2 currently get a remake and LBA3 has been announced.

    • @Thegreatreceiver
      @Thegreatreceiver Рік тому +1

      @@krux02 Thanks for this sir! Unfortunately from what I can see it looks like LBA3 has been cancelled due to no publisher/funding being secured, though the 2 remasters appear to going ahead. Here's hoping we see them soon, I'll be buying for sure :)

    • @EntropicEcho
      @EntropicEcho Рік тому +1

      MDK! Holy shit! That was just gone from my brain but I played that a lot as a kit. Gonna go dive into an internet hole. Thanks!

    • @saykhia
      @saykhia Рік тому +1

      For me it was the main menu music. Core memory retrieved!

  • @central3425
    @central3425 Рік тому +5

    SOOOO many good memories of this game. And the joys of 90s tech!!
    Great video

  • @MaximumTips
    @MaximumTips Рік тому +41

    This was the game that made me loved city builders from when I was kid to today.

  • @smirkingrevenge6
    @smirkingrevenge6 Рік тому +17

    Oh the joys of having proper Instruction manuals.... I can completely relate to how much you pored over the manual here, for me it was Tiberian Sun - Couldn't tell you how many times I read that, fantacising about the different units and lore and just enjoying reading all the options available.... Kids these days just don't know what they're missing!!!

    • @anonymouschicken20
      @anonymouschicken20 3 місяці тому +1

      If it wasn't for videogame manuals, I would not have known that DXDIAG is one of the best ways to check system information.

  • @BleydTorvall
    @BleydTorvall Рік тому +4

    I still recall playing a scenario involving massive fires in NYC that I solved by using the "lower terrain" tool to just drop every fire I saw into the ocean. By the time I was done, about 3/4 of the map was water, but all the fires were gone!

    • @anonymouschicken20
      @anonymouschicken20 3 місяці тому

      Sinking Manhattan to put out fires feels like Marvel movie material.

  • @VanadiumBromide
    @VanadiumBromide Рік тому +11

    Simcity 2000 was the first PC game I was obsessed with. I remember not understanding how zones worked and was content just building roads and ploppable buildings and calling the result my city. It wasn't until I was bought a copy to play at home (SimCity 2000 Special Edition) that I built a city proper. I was hooked from that point on.
    A few years later, I was bought Simcity 3000 and couldn't get it to work. I too spent my childhood reading that manual cover to cover. Same with Simcity 4. Getting those games to run was a core memory I forgot until watching this video. Thanks for the fond memories. :D

  • @FacePomagranate
    @FacePomagranate Рік тому +33

    Kids these days will never know what it's like to obsess over strategy guides for games you don't own.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW 5 місяців тому +5

      I presume the closest analogy is watching let's plays of games you don't -pirate- own.

    • @criticaloptimist
      @criticaloptimist 4 місяці тому +3

      I think it translates to watching people play games you don’t have on twitch and UA-cam

  • @contrapasta2454
    @contrapasta2454 11 місяців тому +6

    I forgot how depressing the music was for the most part in this beloved game of my childhood. Then SC3k completely blew everyone away with Thomas Newman-style tracks, jazz, and light uplifting electronica to accompany your building. SC4's EpiCenter, deserves a special mention as what I imagine to be the culmination of the mini-genre.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Рік тому +47

    Finally, a SimCity 2000 Retrospective Video for over 30 years when this game came out. Amazing job Clint!

  • @Nero_Jero
    @Nero_Jero Рік тому +35

    I absolutely love 90s Maxis. To this day I still can't listen to the intro for the original Sim City without getting emotional

  • @nobodies77
    @nobodies77 11 місяців тому +3

    when i first read it a couple years ago on a binge of old maxis manuals, i found it so cute that the simcity 2000 manual's bibliography has that section on related reading for kids, with stuff like the lorax, books on local governments and architecture, and a guide on how to read maps all listed. i've always thought it was a very sweet way to include the younger fans who might've wanted to learn more about cities and governments because of the game :)

    • @TheOG-GG
      @TheOG-GG 11 місяців тому

      Yes! I loved this! I have been playing Maxis games since their inception at 1987. I was 3 years old. I always loved not only their games but their guides as well. One of my fave Maxis guides was for SimAnt and SimCity 3000. :)

  • @ClassicGameSessions
    @ClassicGameSessions Рік тому +29

    It's always a great day for some SimCity 2000 retrospective from LGR!

  • @thomasg86
    @thomasg86 Рік тому +37

    This game shaped my childhood, it will forever be #1 on my list. The memories clicking away at SC2K are still so vivid. Adding SimCopter and Streets a few years later... pure magic.
    That being said, 30 years later I just learned about Maxis Man! What?!

    • @Njuregen
      @Njuregen Рік тому +3

      I liked Streets of Simcity racing through Sim City 2000 cities you made!

    • @B0Boman
      @B0Boman Рік тому +1

      I remember seeing "Maxis Man" and thinking it was some kind of friendly alien hang glider or something. Never knew it was supposed to be a super hero!

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer Рік тому

      @@Njuregen using SCURK to custom-make arenas, racing tracks, or glitchy maps made Streets even better. Pretty sure I can still hear the "moo" of the cows and "CHECKPOINT!".

  • @timr8657
    @timr8657 11 місяців тому +3

    I can still remember one of my earliest, if not 'the' earliest, memories of using a PC was playing the original Sim City and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego on my primary school's original Apple Macintosh back in the day. I was obsessed!

  • @Magmaster13
    @Magmaster13 Рік тому +43

    The fact that the Special Edition feels more like a complete version of the game really shows how Maxis was ahead of there time

  • @hylomane
    @hylomane Рік тому +15

    What a wonderful childhood story. It reminds me of me, when I was about the same age and wanted to play games so badly but did not own a PC. I used to buy PC games magazines and oogle at the games I could not play.

  • @LordOfNothingreally
    @LordOfNothingreally Рік тому +2

    Ahh, SimCity 2000! This game, along with Civ2, were my go-to obsessions. I would spend hours in the editors designing my own buildings and (in Civ2) units to create my own fantasy worlds. I made wild-west, sci-fi space and underwater themed scenarios. I actually think I spent more time in the editors than I did actually playing the games! I learned a lot about computers, editing software and especially pixel art from those two top-tier amazing games. Excellent video LGR!

  • @cometchaser2117
    @cometchaser2117 Рік тому +7

    I love that you highlighted the power line building sound. It was vivid in my mind when I started this LGR episode. So many hours of gaming well into the morning hours. Just topped by Civilization.

  • @IronSeagull
    @IronSeagull Рік тому +20

    This was my first SimCity game! Will never forget the music and being terrified as a kid of that UFO that made a very human-sounding “zzzt!” when it blew stuff up

  • @joshuahill6153
    @joshuahill6153 8 днів тому +1

    It's always the grandparents or aunt/uncle you never suspect that bring you the best christmas gifts.

  • @zvndmvn
    @zvndmvn Рік тому +118

    Being a literal boxed copy of SimCity 2000 for Halloween is excellent in its own right, but genuinely doing it as a "subtle hint" is the cherry on top. 😂👌

  • @MrKontestator
    @MrKontestator Рік тому +5

    I LOVE SimCity2000. When I grew up we only had an older PC and I only could play “older” games. It was around 2000-2001. When I finished my high school and didn’t knew what I wanted to do in my life, my then-girlfriend asked me what I adored the most in my childhood. It was SimCity2000. So I studied Architecture and Urban Planing. Playing this game now is always making me giggle about how a 4mb ram game affected my life and the choice to be an architect! Btw. I love your videos ❤

  • @Dointerstatus
    @Dointerstatus Рік тому +8

    Amazing.. definitely one of your best videos to date. I loved the insight of your childhood. I can see how it all culminated in this awesome career in UA-cam!

  • @sirwi11iam
    @sirwi11iam Рік тому +19

    I love all Clints content, but I think the retrospectives are my all time favourites.

  • @parrotofthesea7588
    @parrotofthesea7588 11 місяців тому +2

    Really cool video man. Your love story for Sim City is truly heartwarming. I’m subbing. Merry Christmas!

  • @greatscott175
    @greatscott175 Рік тому +31

    I forgot Jerry Martin did this soundtrack. The Sims 1 is one of my favourite soundtracks of all time - the guy is truly a legend, and a phenomenal musician.

    • @VanadiumBromide
      @VanadiumBromide Рік тому +2

      Actually the soundtrack for SimCity 2000 was composed by Sue Casper. You're thinking of SimCity 3000.

  • @edgarbm6407
    @edgarbm6407 Рік тому +10

    I loved this game as a kid. I can't believe its 30 years old. Now I feel old.

  • @marcelievsky
    @marcelievsky Рік тому +1

    SC 2000 changed my perspective about games. At first I was so RPG, fighting or platform games, then when I first played SC 2000 in Snes I started to search about the entire franchise and I found amazing titles in other platforms! Still today I play city simulators and I always remember about Sim City 2000 legacy. Thank you!

  • @rmvbflght_
    @rmvbflght_ Рік тому +14

    My face is numb from smiling the whole time :) What a nice wholesome blast from the past! Times were a lot easier back then :)

  • @Thrasher9294
    @Thrasher9294 Рік тому +5

    So much fancy camera work for this one-love the passion coming through in it man. I knew this would always be a big one

  • @TheOG-GG
    @TheOG-GG 11 місяців тому +2

    OMG! This whole video is precious! My fave retrospective of yours so far! :D

  • @wiseguy724
    @wiseguy724 Рік тому +7

    I definitely remember printing out cities and building cities on top of them with tape and construction paper. great nostalgia trip this was.

  • @Fingolfin3423
    @Fingolfin3423 Рік тому +6

    I listen to the Sim City 2000 soundtrack often while working at my computer. I'm 39 years old, but I used to play this a lot when I was in middle school and high school.

  • @Nathan-mu1pz
    @Nathan-mu1pz Рік тому

    Fantastic video! I doubt you remember, but I reached out to you for help in getting an old PC up and running. This game was one of the major motivations behind the project! And yes, we got it working and it's been an absolute blast. Little did I know you were in the midst of your move when I first reached out to you but you were thoughtful and gave a very helpful response. I hope my inquiry wasn't of great inconvenience to you. I never gave you an update for fear of being too intrusive with my correspondence. But thank you again for that help and for this great video! Love your stuff! (For the record, I was born in the late 90s so much of your stuff is more of a history lesson to me than it is a trip down memory lane, but SimCity 2000 Special Edition was a game I grew up on.)

  • @Outofthedust
    @Outofthedust Рік тому +11

    SC2K was one of my first core memories of playing PC games as a child. I still play it copter and streets occasionally.

  • @treennumbers
    @treennumbers Рік тому +7

    The 'wait until the very last gift to give the kid what they've had their heart set on' Christmas move happens ONCE. Parents learn their lesson and every subsequent year they shove the good stuff right up front so the kid is happy the rest of the day.

  • @sahlstr
    @sahlstr Рік тому +1

    Hearing that theme song makes my heart jump. What a beautiful video this is! Kudos!!!

  • @thefowles1
    @thefowles1 Рік тому +11

    this game encapsulated my entire childhood. glad to see I'm not alone

  • @TexRobNC
    @TexRobNC Рік тому +12

    We were so hyped for this game back in the day. This was an exciting time, full of Bullfrog releases and other great isometric games!

  • @larusmarinus529
    @larusmarinus529 Рік тому +2

    crazy how good this game still looks; that's some gorgeous pixel art! something about that style of graphics really resonates with my imagination, more so than more modern 3D city builders
    obsessively looking at magazines and documentation about a game you really wanted but couldn't get hits too close to home haha...that was my life for much of the 90s and early 2000s too 😅

  • @6Xyzzy
    @6Xyzzy Рік тому +7

    Oh, my god the nostalgia! My brother and I were similarly obsessed with simcity 2000! Such a lovely video

  • @thebizzle413
    @thebizzle413 Рік тому +5

    The 10 year old birthday pic is beyond adorable, we are all LGR.

  • @RaleTheBlade
    @RaleTheBlade Рік тому +1

    Like you, I too got my first taste of sc2k at a friends house. I was absolutely obsessed with it in the mid-90s going so far as to draw cities in my school notebooks (while in class, of course), and obsess over it with friends. For what seemed like forever it was all i wanted to play and talk about. To this day, the box art, music, and sounds strikes an old childhood cord deep within my mind and it always takes me back.

  • @onenationunderdog5289
    @onenationunderdog5289 Рік тому +5

    This game taught me how to balance a budget as a kid; I now work in accounting. A cornerstone childhood gaming experience, glad to see a retrospective by one of the greats to celebrate 30 years! Boy I'm getting old.

    • @rideroundandstuff
      @rideroundandstuff Рік тому +2

      I don't work in accounting but yeah, SC2K taught me that as well. And that loans can be a very dangerous thing.

  • @spiderplant
    @spiderplant Рік тому +5

    Your final blurb is so right. It's such a perfect balance of complexity and approachability (even if my childhood self needed a few tantrums to actually start figuring it out)

  • @robgwillim4009
    @robgwillim4009 Рік тому +3

    This hits right in the feels. Few years before release my aunt married a man who owned a computer store that sold Mac. We ended up with an LC 575 and I played this game to DEATH!

  • @lexisnep525
    @lexisnep525 Рік тому +5

    Quality video as always, Clint! What a treat this one was. Keep up the good work.

  • @nightscroll
    @nightscroll Рік тому +4

    Your Christmas experience was almost exactly my experience several years later with The Sims 2. I desperately wanted it after seeing a little ad in the box of The Sims Makin' Magic and was devastated when I didn't get it on Christmas morning... only to be gleefully surprised to find out a couple hours later that my Grandma had gotten it for me.

  • @rogero8443
    @rogero8443 11 місяців тому +1

    I cannot give a succinct reason for why this video is one of my favourites of yours, and I do not think there is a metric I can quantify this for you to benefit from, so this is not constructive criticism.
    Nonetheless, I watched this about 10 times since it's release, and I think it's two reasons:
    1) the animations in simcity 2k along with it's super simple soundtrack (yet I imagine take a lot of creativity and experience to make a good soundtrack like this) makes me happy learning about it
    2) You sound genuinely happy making this video. You have a algorithmic way of speaking like everyone does over many videos, so it's easy to see in the audio takes that you were constantly reminded you actually enjoy to the core, talking about and playing this game.
    Cities Skylines 2 is out, but I'm going to try simcity 2k because damn, you've inspired. What a great homage.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order Рік тому +4

    That notebook you showed with sketches of the simcity 2000 user interface reminds me of some doodling I used to do back then, I used to design super mario bros levels on notebook paper. I even colored some of them in. One time I even drew my own tetris game on paper. It wasn't easy to play, and I went through several erasers, and never kept score, but I had fun drawing the pieces, erasing them, and such. As a kid, I had a lot of time...

  • @numbmind120
    @numbmind120 Рік тому +4

    This game was my first experience with any kind of simulator game, it truly takes me back to playing it on that crappy old HP laptop my dad had.