@titomish5914 my girlfriend and her dad used alot of 6.5 back when it was new and quickly lost interest in it bc of its lack of knock down power. It's an awesome flat shooting cartridge but as for hunting things like deer is was unimpressive. Lots of tracking even on a double lung but they consistently drop deer with 308 just bc it dumps it's energy better.
6.5 is made for shooting longer distance? Why would you not shoot more than 250? Shot cyotes at 400 yards aswell as hog and deer, just have good shot placement😂
@@titomish5914 there is literally zero difference between them until about 500m where 6.5 begins to hold its velocity and energy transfer better than .308.
@@lummaxjrlocklear7404 yes, snipers are still using the .308/7.62mm, along with the 6.5CM, .300 WM, 50BMG, and now the 277 Fury. Reduced use in the .308/7.62 is not obsolete use.
I have both. However for me the 6.5 Creed. I like that it has less recoil so much so that I stay on target and see my impacts. Therefore I can have follow up shots faster and be able to make adjustments if needed. The 308 recoil tends to take me off target. So if my shot is off I would need a spotter to help call my shot if I’m off target. I’d rather stay on target and see my impacts to have faster follow up shots if needed or be able to make quick adjustments based on me seeing my impacts. Everyone will have their opinion or preferences so basically what works for the individual. As long as you get rounds on target with good shot placement.
I only recently bought into Creedmoor because Winchester apparently goofed up. I got 1k rounds of 140gr open tip match at just over $15 a box. I already load 6.5 Grendel, so I had the bullets. I reload 308, so I had the powder.
I always hear that but where Im at 308,30-06,270,243 and 6.5creed are all the same price brand for brand I own 308,30-06 and 6.5creed and say I buy a box of Remington core lokt or hornady SST for each they would all coast the same a box
@@thisismyusername6717 while true, that’s misleading. .308 and .30-06 are not the same. You can do a lot more with a .30-06 - you wouldn’t want to shoot modern, higher pressure loads in an M1 garand. Both great rounds.
@@terrarecon and if I was serious, and my opinion was that his opinion was wrong, wouldn't it be arrogant of you to say that my opinion of his opinion is wrong? But maybe that's arrogant of me to say that about your opinion?!
@@rrviking A one word comment taken at face value doesn't indicate to people anything other than what you posted. This is a public forum, you responded to him, I responded to you potato/potatoe.
Long time fanboy of 308, but after I got my first 6.5 I only shoot 308 out of my SCAR17 now. To have an appreciable difference in energy under 500 you really should be using as long of a barrel as you can with as heavy of a high BC bullet as you can which then just makes it cumbersome in the field. Past 500 the 6.5 really has longer legs than the 308.
Under 500 meters the 308 is gonna have more muzzle energy also its effective from shorter barrels as it doesn't lose as much velocity as a smaller diameter bullet. 308 is ideal for a battle rifle role with 16-20 inch barrels while 6.5 is better for a dmr/ sniper role as its more aerodynamic better for the 20-24 inch barrels for that role. For practical applications 308 is my winner!
Have you seen the Paul Howe Tactical Carbine by Wilson combat? Check it out if not, AR platform in 6.5 creedmore. That 6.5 is doing plenty of damage, I think with the way this rifle is set up it makes a very good all around battle rifle ( few changes I’d personally make but just a preference thing at that point )
You mean physically loading bullets into the weapon or reloading (making) your own bullets? sry i know nothing about this stuff, but it's interesting to learn
I’m gunna have to go with the 6.5, partly cause it’s what I shoot, but also cause it’s bearly affected by wind at 500 yards. It has little bullet drop compared to other rounds. But .308 and 6.5 are pretty similar and if your hunting they’ll both get the job done.
I’d take the 308 over the 6.5 mainly because when we had that big ammo shortage 308 was still pretty common on the shelf’s plus I think it out preforms the 6.5 on bigger animals
To my understanding, you are correct. It seems that it's a similar debate to 270 Win vs 30-06. 270 is flatter shooting, but 30-06 can be used for larger game. At the end of the day, both cartridges have their merits and their drawbacks, just as the debate between 6.5 Creedmoor and 308 Win.
Let you know after this season. 6.5 creedmoor ruger american predator with a 3-12 buckmaster. Going to try norma whitetail 140gr. Typical range on the property is between 50 and 200 yards. May be a little overkill for those circumstances but if the knockdown power is good than I won't complain
I bought a brand new Daniel Defence DD5V5 from their website. And i chose 6.5 over 308. 308 hits harder up close and 6.5 hits harder past 700yards and has less bullet drop. Theres not a big enough difference to make a difference. Both rounds can hit 1 mile yes,6.5 does it better. Both rounds penetrate 3/8th inch steel yes,308 does it better. Both rounds are stopped by 1/2inch steel. It doesnt matter what you hit with either,its dieing. At the end of the day just buy one. Its like a Lamborghini vs Ferrari. Its the same thing.
You make some really good points, especially in the first half of your comment. I agree, however, regarding the last bit, it's a little more nuanced than that.
@rclaws1347 One test showed that at 1 mile 6.5 Creedmoor had a 6 inch group where 308 had an 11 inch group. Another test showed 308 had 366 ft lbs of energy more than the 6.5 Creedmoor. There's never gunna be a time where someone misses by inches past 700 yards and the target runs off to live happily ever after and you say "I wish I had a 6.5". And there's never gunna be a time where you hit a target with 2,000ft-lbs of energy and it runs off to live happily ever after and you say "I wish I had a 308" For hunting they will both get the job done. Ballistic stats are purely for educational purposes. In hunting they are equal. Maybe one is "better" than the other against barriers or accuracy. Who cares. You're not coming home empty handed just because you went out with one cartridge and not the other. Pick either one and you will have a successful hunt.
I’m also seeing a lot of people think a 6.5 is just a good range gun???!! What’re y’all smoking? That 6.5 is nasty. Does way more than enough damage for deer to knock them down. Y’all over think it waaaayyy too much. 30-06 and 308 aren’t the only calibers taking down deer. If you wanna know what a good range gun is for plinking, shoot a 22. There’s your range gun jack
It depends. 6.5CM has a lower COF which makes it easier to shoot long ranges, .308 is cheaper for shorter range shooting. Note that .308 can reach out just as far but takes more compensation for wind and drop
I like that the overwhelming majority chose .308 as it's a common round that's been around for awhile. This was my initial choice as I am only 22 i only started shooting handgun last year i don't really have a ton of money for firearms. I'm looking for a bolt rifle. I have a few handguns , an AR shotgun(semi auto mag fed) and a Ruger 10/22. While all of these are exceptional for either hunting or personal defense, none of these in my case are capable of shooting much past 150 yards with any accuracy. I'm looking for something to step it up. Maybe an AR-15 to extend me to 300 meters. Then a bolty in .308 for some distance shooting. I'm building a collection and I have a plan in mind I'm just taking my time I'm focusing on getting a truck instead of a car right now so my priorities are on automotives instead of firearms at the moment. I'm a big gunsmith person though. I love studying ballistics.
I use both, for both. Always been a 6.5 fan back to the 6.5 Swede in 1980 when I was 12. Met the 308 and qualified Expert 3x in the Navy. I have both in bolt guns and autos. 308 is amazing within 400 to 500 yards on medium to large game. 6.5 isn't as good on larger stuff, but it carries better for targets and smaller game.
I was leaning more to getting a .308 but the pricing was actually worse in my area than 6.5 creedmoor. Anyone else experience that or am I some kind of one in a million outlier?
i would choose the 6.5 creedmoor for hunting. the recoil is less. it shoots flatter, so bullet drop isnt an iussue as much. we also have smaller game in the southern midwest. im not taking down elk, just deer and pigs mainly
I hunted with a 308 win for years and then I bought the 6.5 creed and i don't care what anyone has to say bad about 6.5 it does everything the 308 does but better in every way I have now seen 17 whitetails taken by the 6.5 by me and my daughter and a few friends but I sold my old 308 and im not saying anything is wrong with 308 but better is better and ill take every advantage i can get 🤘
Practicality, 308 all day. Especially 0-500m. More muzzle from the line and thump when hitting target. Long range, flatter and precise, 6.5. Especially if there is wind.
Load both and have used both. While the 308 has been accurate to 1200 yards for me on targets, I prefer the 6.5 creed. This is with my hand loads. The little 6.5 when loaded to its potential, in a 26" barrel has moor range with fps and energy. Within 600 both will do on Whitetail sized critters with the right bullet. The little 6.5 with a good 140gr loaded right will smack 20% gel at 900 yrds. with the right loading and bullet. Has good penetration and bullet function. Sound unreasonable? Look at Barbour Creek Shooting Academy videos of a test on gel with 6.5 creed at 900 yards. That's a long poke but just goes to show how much bullet B.C., sectional density and construction play a role.
Im moving over to 6.5. I like the idea of 6 inch groups at 1000. Itll do what i need and do it with more accuracy. Im surrounded by cow farms, if i was back home where i grew up id still be with 308. I was raised at the foot of a mountain so visibility wasn't far in the woods.
Id choose 6.5 PRC ..IN FACT I BOUGHT IT AND LOADING MY OWN AMMO TODAY. .0.2 grain increments to find best group and fps. LONG RANGE SHOOTING. ALSO OWN THE 300 WIN MAG.
@@steveniedowicz8335 I own both. Love the 308 but being full of shrapnel and busted up, the 6.5 creed for me 99% of the time I pick one up. You can watch impacts for follow up shots easily. Shoot 100 rounds and not feel it at all. Hand loading to the potential gives it some oomph. Go to Barbour Creek Shooting Academy videos. Look up 6.5 creedmoor 140gr, (handloads) into 20 % gel at 900 yards. Not saying shoot anything at that range. Especially if you aren't trained, haven't the trigger time or not within your capabilities. It does show the potential however of the little 6.5 creed that most like to poke fun at. Just saying
Have both Have shot lots of both 6.5 is better in almost every aspect If you just want to shoot within 800 Yards and prefer .308 fine. Price Used to be a big difference but they have evened out a lot, especially for the good stuff.
.308 for long range marksmanship development. It requires more wind reading skills than 6.5 for good scores so it demands development. Also barrel life is much longer than 6.5.
Longtime Hunter here, I own both a 308 and a 6.5. The 308 is superior to the 6.5 for several reasons. The first reason being is 308 is much more forgiving for beginner, hunters and beginner long range precision shooters as it is less likely to be bullied by the wind and is less likely to be bullied by Temperature as well. 6.5 is only able to do what 308 can do because of the amount of powder behind the round. 6.5 is more likely to be bullied by hot and cold and wind. Although shooting with 6.5 Creedmoor builds, good precision, shooting habits when you move from 6.5 to 308 I have often noticed myself over correcting shots and others when they go from 6.5 to 308 that there is an adjustment period for them.
6.5 has a higher ballistic coefficient so it would be better in wind. Both bullets are going about 2600fps depending on projectile weight. The 6.5 on paper is a better round based on the reasons you’ve given but 308 is great for barrel life and possibly accessibility. there is no reason to replace your 308 for marginally better long range performance.
@@MJ-or1wo ballistic coefficient is one factor but you also have to work with the weight of the round. The heavier round is and the faster it’s going means it is more likely to bully the wind and all other factors for most interactions upto 600 yards at least in my experience. I’ve pushed and put my 308 on a 4ftx3ft paper targe at 1,200 yards within 5 shots and I’ve yet to do that with my 6.5 creedmoor. It’s a great round and it’s cheap but it’s nothing compared to 308 in my personal opinion.
@@JamesW7723 weight has very little to do with overcoming wind compared to bc, the diameter and more modern design of 6.5 is better in windy conditions. i understand you seem to be a better shot with your 308 but based on just pure facts the 6.5 is a better round at distance, despite you being better with 308. you can just google what is a better round in wind 6.5 or 308. i have both 6.5 and 308, my 308 groups better so i use it for deer season and if i would want to take bigger game like elk further away i would use my 7prc.
For hunting .308. I bet shoot past 250-300yds, has a little more knock down power, but the main reason is availability of ammo. Every option under the sun and priced well
I’ve been using my 6.5 for hunting. Couldn’t afford a rifle in .308 so got a cheap axis in 6.5 shes been good. Taken one deer 2 hogs and a few coyotes with it.
6.5 Creedmore for Precision Rifle Shooting. The .308 for larger game. Overall, my interest are in the 6mm Creedmore and 6.5 Creedmore platforms. The Long Rang performance is downright scary. 🎯
all the people say ammo price as to why they'd choose 308... yet because I am currently looking into buying a new gun between these two ive been looking at the price of ammo at my local stores and they are both always within $2-4 of each other... not really something that would sway me one way or another. so its going to have to be a different reason.
Have them both, but for big game I use .308 with 180gr bullet or my .300 win mag with 200gr bullet. 6.5 only comes out for coyote and hogs or when the kids wanna shoot some long range targets.
Both are great I have a subsonic load for 308, my creedmore is better for long distance and has a lot less recoil. Both accurate and versatile. The haters of creedmore are just plain stupid it’s like hating the hellcat just because you have a mustang. Dumb.
There both great rounds and can without a doubt be used for hunting and PS. Honestly it comes down with what you’re willing to take and willing to let go.
It’s honestly splitting hairs inside 300yds. Probably slight energy edge with .308, then CM takes over after that. Have taken plenty of whitetail with both 70-500yds & they’re both plenty effective.
I was going to put together a 308 for target and hunting, but got a hoor of a good deal on a 6.5cm. I'd still go with the 6.5cm ive used it for bears, deer bison, etc... up to 758yds. Ive never really felt that it was lacking, so yeah, id go with the more efficient cartridge.
I own a 308 shot a couple of 6.5s 6.5 shoots well but my Winchester m70 308 has taking everything from groundhogs to blackbear with the same 168gr so I won't be trading in anytime soon
The 6.5 Creedmoor with 100grn to 130grns copper bullet it carries a high sectional density for weight compared to the 308 bullets and a higher BC as well, and so the Creedmoor 6.5 is my choice for hunting.
Im gonna say .308 for hunting . Up to 700 yards they are both nearly identical.. most people in north america aren’t hunting farther than 200yds. 6.5 prc for plinking
308 all day for hunting
6.5 got the range tho
6.5 is better
I have a 6.5 savage and a 308 xbolt browning & the 6.5 smacks on the 308
Please... Us boys down South don't have to shoot a mile. Win 308 for decades and decadesand counting.
@@cwbristowis boys down south know the 6.5 is better
You straight from the north
I deer hunt with 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. Not shooting more than 250 yards max. Both are great rounds.
Have you noticed any diferentes between them when comes down to hunting?
@titomish5914 my girlfriend and her dad used alot of 6.5 back when it was new and quickly lost interest in it bc of its lack of knock down power. It's an awesome flat shooting cartridge but as for hunting things like deer is was unimpressive. Lots of tracking even on a double lung but they consistently drop deer with 308 just bc it dumps it's energy better.
6.5 is made for shooting longer distance? Why would you not shoot more than 250? Shot cyotes at 400 yards aswell as hog and deer, just have good shot placement😂
@@Freddy_with_a_AK because I don’t many places where I hunt that you are able to shoot more than about 250 yards
@@titomish5914 there is literally zero difference between them until about 500m where 6.5 begins to hold its velocity and energy transfer better than .308.
AR10 308 always
308 for hunting and 6,5 if i want to do some fun Long range shooting
I mean my 6.5 is light weight almost 0 recoil and accurate. But most people stand by what they have used the most
308 hands down. This is a military standard round that US snipers have successfully used since the 1960's.
Not anymore
@@lummaxjrlocklear7404 yes, snipers are still using the .308/7.62mm, along with the 6.5CM, .300 WM, 50BMG, and now the 277 Fury. Reduced use in the .308/7.62 is not obsolete use.
Yep, not anymore. 338 Lapua or 50 BMG.
I have both. However for me the 6.5 Creed. I like that it has less recoil so much so that I stay on target and see my impacts. Therefore I can have follow up shots faster and be able to make adjustments if needed. The 308 recoil tends to take me off target. So if my shot is off I would need a spotter to help call my shot if I’m off target. I’d rather stay on target and see my impacts to have faster follow up shots if needed or be able to make quick adjustments based on me seeing my impacts. Everyone will have their opinion or preferences so basically what works for the individual. As long as you get rounds on target with good shot placement.
308. I'm poor.
The 6.5 is cheaper
@@Parkerfishing35Not according to AmmoSeek. Cheapest 308 is .63 cents, 6.5 Creedmoor is .81 cents.
lol. Go to any store that sells both. 6.5 is always higher
I only recently bought into Creedmoor because Winchester apparently goofed up. I got 1k rounds of 140gr open tip match at just over $15 a box. I already load 6.5 Grendel, so I had the bullets. I reload 308, so I had the powder.
someone local is selling 200rds of norma whitetail for $200. could be better but agreed 308 is cheaper.@@shawnb4938
With all the ammo options on the market I don’t see a loss in choosing either/or
Id choose 308 simply because of ammo availability and pricing.
I always hear that but where Im at 308,30-06,270,243 and 6.5creed are all the same price brand for brand I own 308,30-06 and 6.5creed and say I buy a box of Remington core lokt or hornady SST for each they would all coast the same a box
All old people say 308. Even older people say 30 06
They’re both great tho that’s why lol
I mean what are we talking here? Deer? They’ll all get the job ✔️
Thats all they had back then in america😂😂
308 was designed to have the same ballistics as the 30 06 bc the army wanted it.
@@thisismyusername6717 while true, that’s misleading. .308 and .30-06 are not the same. You can do a lot more with a .30-06 - you wouldn’t want to shoot modern, higher pressure loads in an M1 garand.
Both great rounds.
Im an older guy who uses my rifle to provide my food. I've had both. I chose the 308.
308 but I’m not one to judge someone else for their choice of calibers the use
Thanks you! Everyone keeps calling me stupid for Elk hunting with a 17hmr but they are just haters!
@@EnderPearlRs going for those eyeball shots at 20 yards
308. For everything pigs predators deer etc. 6.5 for prs
308 all day and twice on Sunday. 😪
Wrong
@@rrviking kind arrogant of you to tell another man his personal choice is "wrong."
@@terrarecon kind of sad there's no sense of humor anymore!
@@terrarecon and if I was serious, and my opinion was that his opinion was wrong, wouldn't it be arrogant of you to say that my opinion of his opinion is wrong? But maybe that's arrogant of me to say that about your opinion?!
@@rrviking A one word comment taken at face value doesn't indicate to people anything other than what you posted. This is a public forum, you responded to him, I responded to you potato/potatoe.
Long time fanboy of 308, but after I got my first 6.5 I only shoot 308 out of my SCAR17 now. To have an appreciable difference in energy under 500 you really should be using as long of a barrel as you can with as heavy of a high BC bullet as you can which then just makes it cumbersome in the field. Past 500 the 6.5 really has longer legs than the 308.
308. It’s cheaper and more readily available in my area. It also has a way longer barrel life over 6.5.
I was wrong the 308 win does have a longer barrel life
I stand corrected
@@AMM-bc5sw Wow, someone actually admitted they were wrong about something in the UA-cam comments section. I never thought I'd see the day!
Under 500 meters the 308 is gonna have more muzzle energy also its effective from shorter barrels as it doesn't lose as much velocity as a smaller diameter bullet.
308 is ideal for a battle rifle role with 16-20 inch barrels while 6.5 is better for a dmr/ sniper role as its more aerodynamic better for the 20-24 inch barrels for that role.
For practical applications 308 is my winner!
Id reread your comment and put it into a format that makes sense, or at least is somewhat accurate.
@@tehclefty5317 no matter what distance the bullet is measured at, the muzzle energy remains the same. Muzzle energy is measured at the muzzle.
Best take
Have you seen the Paul Howe Tactical Carbine by Wilson combat? Check it out if not, AR platform in 6.5 creedmore.
That 6.5 is doing plenty of damage, I think with the way this rifle is set up it makes a very good all around battle rifle ( few changes I’d personally make but just a preference thing at that point )
You have no clue what u talking about.
Both are incredible rounds. I have 2 308 guns and 1 6.5 Creedmoor gun
When it comes to reloading the 308 is a better choice just from a supply standpoint
You mean physically loading bullets into the weapon or reloading (making) your own bullets? sry i know nothing about this stuff, but it's interesting to learn
@@murkypuddle33 making new ammo from your spent brass
No Calibers beat the 308 enough to justify my hobby shooting price per shot
358?
I have both, they work on everything in NC
Thanks! Trying to chose.
.308 for the price, availability & it has just enough punch (for hunting & PRS).
I’m gunna have to go with the 6.5, partly cause it’s what I shoot, but also cause it’s bearly affected by wind at 500 yards. It has little bullet drop compared to other rounds. But .308 and 6.5 are pretty similar and if your hunting they’ll both get the job done.
I'm a big 6.5 fan..... but considering the two.... I'd prefer the 308. I'd use it for whatever comes along.
I’d take the 308 over the 6.5 mainly because when we had that big ammo shortage 308 was still pretty common on the shelf’s plus I think it out preforms the 6.5 on bigger animals
To my understanding, you are correct. It seems that it's a similar debate to 270 Win vs 30-06. 270 is flatter shooting, but 30-06 can be used for larger game. At the end of the day, both cartridges have their merits and their drawbacks, just as the debate between 6.5 Creedmoor and 308 Win.
My first AR build was an AR-10 in 6.5 Creedmoor. My favorite load is the Hornady 147 gr ELD-M.
Target for 6.5, hunting for 308
308 for hunting I loved mine
Let you know after this season. 6.5 creedmoor ruger american predator with a 3-12 buckmaster. Going to try norma whitetail 140gr. Typical range on the property is between 50 and 200 yards. May be a little overkill for those circumstances but if the knockdown power is good than I won't complain
How did it go?
Recently bought 20" barrel rifle for the .308 caliber ❤
I bought a brand new Daniel Defence DD5V5 from their website. And i chose 6.5 over 308. 308 hits harder up close and 6.5 hits harder past 700yards and has less bullet drop. Theres not a big enough difference to make a difference. Both rounds can hit 1 mile yes,6.5 does it better. Both rounds penetrate 3/8th inch steel yes,308 does it better. Both rounds are stopped by 1/2inch steel. It doesnt matter what you hit with either,its dieing. At the end of the day just buy one. Its like a Lamborghini vs Ferrari. Its the same thing.
You make some really good points, especially in the first half of your comment. I agree, however, regarding the last bit, it's a little more nuanced than that.
I'll take the Ferrari
@@seangrover140both otalian junk ewww
Does anybody really take shots at game at 700 yds and beyond? I dont know and can't imagine shooting at game even at 400 yds.
@rclaws1347 One test showed that at 1 mile 6.5 Creedmoor had a 6 inch group where 308 had an 11 inch group. Another test showed 308 had 366 ft lbs of energy more than the 6.5 Creedmoor.
There's never gunna be a time where someone misses by inches past 700 yards and the target runs off to live happily ever after and you say "I wish I had a 6.5".
And there's never gunna be a time where you hit a target with 2,000ft-lbs of energy and it runs off to live happily ever after and you say "I wish I had a 308"
For hunting they will both get the job done.
Ballistic stats are purely for educational purposes. In hunting they are equal.
Maybe one is "better" than the other against barriers or accuracy. Who cares. You're not coming home empty handed just because you went out with one cartridge and not the other. Pick either one and you will have a successful hunt.
308, for hunting, for combat, for plinking. It's a good all-around round. Just ask some old/timer war vets.
I’m also seeing a lot of people think a 6.5 is just a good range gun???!! What’re y’all smoking? That 6.5 is nasty. Does way more than enough damage for deer to knock them down. Y’all over think it waaaayyy too much. 30-06 and 308 aren’t the only calibers taking down deer. If you wanna know what a good range gun is for plinking, shoot a 22. There’s your range gun jack
Neither you, or anyone else has ever "knocked down" a deer in any caliber. 'cause there is no such thing.
308 for everything .
Really hard choice….actually it’s not. 308 all day!!
It depends. 6.5CM has a lower COF which makes it easier to shoot long ranges, .308 is cheaper for shorter range shooting.
Note that .308 can reach out just as far but takes more compensation for wind and drop
308 good round and you can get it anywhere even when ammo was scares.
308 for ammo cost
308 Win with 165gr Trophy Copper or 180gr Trophy Bonded Tip works great here in my homeland of Northern Arizona.
6.5 all day
I have both and they are both good shooting rifles
I like that the overwhelming majority chose .308 as it's a common round that's been around for awhile. This was my initial choice as I am only 22 i only started shooting handgun last year i don't really have a ton of money for firearms. I'm looking for a bolt rifle. I have a few handguns , an AR shotgun(semi auto mag fed) and a Ruger 10/22. While all of these are exceptional for either hunting or personal defense, none of these in my case are capable of shooting much past 150 yards with any accuracy. I'm looking for something to step it up. Maybe an AR-15 to extend me to 300 meters. Then a bolty in .308 for some distance shooting. I'm building a collection and I have a plan in mind I'm just taking my time I'm focusing on getting a truck instead of a car right now so my priorities are on automotives instead of firearms at the moment. I'm a big gunsmith person though. I love studying ballistics.
I use both, for both. Always been a 6.5 fan back to the 6.5 Swede in 1980 when I was 12. Met the 308 and qualified Expert 3x in the Navy.
I have both in bolt guns and autos.
308 is amazing within 400 to 500 yards on medium to large game.
6.5 isn't as good on larger stuff, but it carries better for targets and smaller game.
See, I like hearing from people who have experience with both.
I was leaning more to getting a .308 but the pricing was actually worse in my area than 6.5 creedmoor. Anyone else experience that or am I some kind of one in a million outlier?
i would choose the 6.5 creedmoor for hunting. the recoil is less. it shoots flatter, so bullet drop isnt an iussue as much. we also have smaller game in the southern midwest. im not taking down elk, just deer and pigs mainly
I hunted with a 308 win for years and then I bought the 6.5 creed and i don't care what anyone has to say bad about 6.5 it does everything the 308 does but better in every way I have now seen 17 whitetails taken by the 6.5 by me and my daughter and a few friends but I sold my old 308 and im not saying anything is wrong with 308 but better is better and ill take every advantage i can get 🤘
😂😂🤣
308 for knock down and 6.5 for precision
Practicality, 308 all day. Especially 0-500m. More muzzle from the line and thump when hitting target.
Long range, flatter and precise, 6.5. Especially if there is wind.
6.5 does both just fine as long as the barrel is long enough.
What is long enough? 20"?
depends on what use and what being shot. eg deer , targets or hogs.
Load both and have used both. While the 308 has been accurate to 1200 yards for me on targets, I prefer the 6.5 creed. This is with my hand loads. The little 6.5 when loaded to its potential, in a 26" barrel has moor range with fps and energy. Within 600 both will do on Whitetail sized critters with the right bullet. The little 6.5 with a good 140gr loaded right will smack 20% gel at 900 yrds. with the right loading and bullet. Has good penetration and bullet function. Sound unreasonable? Look at Barbour Creek Shooting Academy videos of a test on gel with 6.5 creed at 900 yards. That's a long poke but just goes to show how much bullet B.C., sectional density and construction play a role.
I no longer have a 308, but still have the reloading dies and components for it, so would better fit me logically. And I already have a 6.5 Swedish.
I have both they both have pro's and con's that's why i have so many calibers for different scenarios
Im moving over to 6.5. I like the idea of 6 inch groups at 1000. Itll do what i need and do it with more accuracy.
Im surrounded by cow farms, if i was back home where i grew up id still be with 308. I was raised at the foot of a mountain so visibility wasn't far in the woods.
308 for big game…. 6.5 for hogs
Deer?
both are gonna kill the deer very easily. 6.5 might be easier to shoot
Id choose 6.5 PRC
..IN FACT I BOUGHT IT AND LOADING MY OWN AMMO TODAY. .0.2 grain increments to find best group and fps.
LONG RANGE SHOOTING. ALSO OWN THE 300 WIN MAG.
I think the difference it’s so little for argument.
I hunt with 308.
But I have both because I like firearms!
I own both. 6.5 just pack less recoil. Both shoots accurate with the right ammunition. I still trust my 308 since I have more time hunting with it.
That's the selling point for me. Less recoil. I like the same terminal ballistics same range with less recoil.
@@steveniedowicz8335 If you cannot handle the 308"s recoil you are NOT a man!
@leeeng478 I guess a couple of extra push ups couldn't hurt me. Quick question, you wouldn't happen to carry a 45 would you? Lol
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I own both. Love the 308 but being full of shrapnel and busted up, the 6.5 creed for me 99% of the time I pick one up. You can watch impacts for follow up shots easily. Shoot 100 rounds and not feel it at all. Hand loading to the potential gives it some oomph. Go to Barbour Creek Shooting Academy videos. Look up 6.5 creedmoor 140gr, (handloads) into 20 % gel at 900 yards. Not saying shoot anything at that range. Especially if you aren't trained, haven't the trigger time or not within your capabilities. It does show the potential however of the little 6.5 creed that most like to poke fun at.
Just saying
Have both
Have shot lots of both
6.5 is better in almost every aspect
If you just want to shoot within 800
Yards and prefer .308 fine. Price
Used to be a big difference but they have evened out a lot, especially for the good stuff.
.308 for long range marksmanship development. It requires more wind reading skills than 6.5 for good scores so it demands development. Also barrel life is much longer than 6.5.
Longtime Hunter here, I own both a 308 and a 6.5. The 308 is superior to the 6.5 for several reasons. The first reason being is 308 is much more forgiving for beginner, hunters and beginner long range precision shooters as it is less likely to be bullied by the wind and is less likely to be bullied by Temperature as well. 6.5 is only able to do what 308 can do because of the amount of powder behind the round. 6.5 is more likely to be bullied by hot and cold and wind. Although shooting with 6.5 Creedmoor builds, good precision, shooting habits when you move from 6.5 to 308 I have often noticed myself over correcting shots and others when they go from 6.5 to 308 that there is an adjustment period for them.
6.5 has a higher ballistic coefficient so it would be better in wind. Both bullets are going about 2600fps depending on projectile weight. The 6.5 on paper is a better round based on the reasons you’ve given but 308 is great for barrel life and possibly accessibility. there is no reason to replace your 308 for marginally better long range performance.
@@MJ-or1wo ballistic coefficient is one factor but you also have to work with the weight of the round. The heavier round is and the faster it’s going means it is more likely to bully the wind and all other factors for most interactions upto 600 yards at least in my experience. I’ve pushed and put my 308 on a 4ftx3ft paper targe at 1,200 yards within 5 shots and I’ve yet to do that with my 6.5 creedmoor. It’s a great round and it’s cheap but it’s nothing compared to 308 in my personal opinion.
@@JamesW7723 weight has very little to do with overcoming wind compared to bc, the diameter and more modern design of 6.5 is better in windy conditions. i understand you seem to be a better shot with your 308 but based on just pure facts the 6.5 is a better round at distance, despite you being better with 308. you can just google what is a better round in wind 6.5 or 308. i have both 6.5 and 308, my 308 groups better so i use it for deer season and if i would want to take bigger game like elk further away i would use my 7prc.
For me, 308 in bolt and semi auto for hunting and distance, but if i want to go out further, i just get the 338 lapua out of the safe.
WIN 270 Hornady 140 SST Superformance what I choose
308 for both
In a raffle the other day, I won a Savage Apex Hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor!
Trade your money back for the 6.5
308 all day for hunting and PRS.
For hunting .308. I bet shoot past 250-300yds, has a little more knock down power, but the main reason is availability of ammo. Every option under the sun and priced well
6.5 creedmoor for PRS. It's just better for long range shooting especially over 800 yards. If I wanna hunt then 308.
never used an 308 for hunting and 6.5 gets the job done some may disagree but this is my opinion 6.5 all day and better for prs
If you have success hunting with the 6.5CM who am I to argue? I have never hunted with that round, so I am curious to hear from others who have.
I’ve been using my 6.5 for hunting. Couldn’t afford a rifle in .308 so got a cheap axis in 6.5 shes been good. Taken one deer 2 hogs and a few coyotes with it.
308 all day
6.5 Creedmore for Precision Rifle Shooting. The .308 for larger game. Overall, my interest are in the 6mm Creedmore and 6.5 Creedmore platforms. The Long Rang performance is downright scary. 🎯
all the people say ammo price as to why they'd choose 308... yet because I am currently looking into buying a new gun between these two ive been looking at the price of ammo at my local stores and they are both always within $2-4 of each other... not really something that would sway me one way or another. so its going to have to be a different reason.
308definitelyhunting
6.5 for both.
I own both and both do the job. Its all about bullet placement and the types of bullets.
Neither, I chose 6.5PRC for everything and don't regret it
Both are great
308 for hunting especially within 150yds creeds lose speed or drop in flight I feel like and they come with a Mercedes club vibe also
Have them both, but for big game I use .308 with 180gr bullet or my .300 win mag with 200gr bullet. 6.5 only comes out for coyote and hogs or when the kids wanna shoot some long range targets.
Both are great I have a subsonic load for 308, my creedmore is better for long distance and has a lot less recoil. Both accurate and versatile. The haters of creedmore are just plain stupid it’s like hating the hellcat just because you have a mustang. Dumb.
I have both and both do their job, but for long range over 800 yds 6.5 cm.
Both are dangerous rounds 🤔 I don't know I guess both the 6.5 go far the 3.08 pack a bigger punch
308 over the 6.5 to keep barrel short. POF .308 AR 15 pattern
There both great rounds and can without a doubt be used for hunting and PS. Honestly it comes down with what you’re willing to take and willing to let go.
I consider 308 to more general purpose and that was why I went with that, and the platform is AR-10 for the same reason.
If I were just starting out I'd go 6.5. I kinda grew up with the 6.5 Sweden and that 6.5 sectional density is fantastic.
I personally own both and hate both of them so many better options in either direction
6.5
I got 22Lr for close range
308 for medium range
And 7mm rem mag for long range
Don’t need a creedmore.
308 ar10 hunting, but ill use 6.5g ar15 for long distance
It’s honestly splitting hairs inside 300yds. Probably slight energy edge with .308, then CM takes over after that. Have taken plenty of whitetail with both 70-500yds & they’re both plenty effective.
6.5 is great for Deer and Elk, 308s cool but isn’t leaps and bounds better then 6.5. 6.5 you can reach out further for sure. Stays level longer.
I was going to put together a 308 for target and hunting, but got a hoor of a good deal on a 6.5cm. I'd still go with the 6.5cm ive used it for bears, deer bison, etc... up to 758yds. Ive never really felt that it was lacking, so yeah, id go with the more efficient cartridge.
I own a 308 shot a couple of 6.5s 6.5 shoots well but my Winchester m70 308 has taking everything from groundhogs to blackbear with the same 168gr so I won't be trading in anytime soon
I'm going with my trusty 308.
I’ve got both I use them both to hunt but my 6.5 tends to leave a thicker blood trail than the 308
Using what bullet??
The 6.5 Creedmoor with 100grn to 130grns copper bullet it carries a high sectional density for weight compared to the 308 bullets and a higher BC as well, and so the Creedmoor 6.5 is my choice for hunting.
Im gonna say .308 for hunting . Up to 700 yards they are both nearly identical.. most people in north america aren’t hunting farther than 200yds.
6.5 prc for plinking
I hear you, however, your personal hunting style isn't dictated by what distances "most" other people hunt at. It's your personal choice right?
Preferably, 308 for hunting. I own both and I’m confident with both as a hunting rifle. 308 has more DRTs. PRS, 6.5 all day.