I was very sad when the ghost of Tsusima was finished, congratulations on staying with Jin Sakai, Yuriko, Sensei Isikawa Norio, Nobu, Kenji, Lord Shimura, and other
To be honest, would you be scared if you had a bunch of legendary armors, techniques, ghost weapons and pretty much bodied the mongol army almost single handedly? Yeah yeah I know he didn’t do it by himself and other people gave those techniques and armors and stuff but you have to admit, dudes PRETTY OP
this game is hella good im 2/3 done with it and its awesome i really do hope they make another and i cant wait to see how it will looks like on the ps5
Yeah I killed him. I wanted his final act he saw of Jin to be honorable. Also if you let him live, he will live a life full of suffering and may even commit suicide. I thought that killing him was the best thing to do.
Given how he abandons honor and traditional tactics to protect his people, sparing him felt right. It was like the final middle finger he gave to tradition and what was expected of him.
Samurai didn’t kill family. To do so was a dishonorable unless instructed to do so by the Jito or Shogun(refer to Masako’s storyline, when she was both mortified to find out the truth about her sister and also wouldn’t kill her). Killing Shimura both gave him a quick release and also kind of proved that you had abandoned the samurai way completely. Not killing him kind of showed Jin still respected the Samurai and their ways but, I gotta do what I gotta do to win this war cuz the old ways aren’t cutting it uncle(hints: “I have no honor BUT I will not kill family”). With that said, I let him live cuz he killed my horse(or I blame him for the death anyways) and I figured it was a greater pain to let him live and spend everyday remembering what he lost.
This scene brought me back to when he was a kid sparring with uncle and Uncle asks: “What does honor mean to you?” Jin’s heart replies: “To protect people.” So its like Honor resides in oneself, The way you live, how you treat others determines what You honor/your values. I think its safe to say that it is not selfish when the true intentions are selfless. Jin has brought honor, to his heart. SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GAME!
I haven't played the game and I watched all the cutscene. Finally! what you said is exactly what my thought was leading up to that choice. It gave me the feeling that that part of the game was going to be crucial because seeing how firm Lord Shimura corrected him with what Jins definition of honor was. Right then and there you see their difference and where they might have a conflict down the line. It really is a beautiful game, they gave the game to us they didn't give us to the game.
I spared him too. In the end, I felt sorry for him. He's a good guy, just a very traditional rigid mentality, he loved Jin as a son. Couldn't kill him.
True. He has no longer bonded with the code of samurai. Spare him doesn't mean that he didn't "honored" his uncle's wish. He admitted that if he can no longer meet his uncle as father and son, at least he could see him as a warrior who walked on different paths with him, for the sake of the people.
I don't like this take to be honest lol. I don't care what choice people make, but don't call sparing him honorable. You leave him without a son or any family,, and by losing to you in the duel he has failed his mission for the shogun. So the shogun will either have him killed or punish him by taking everything else away that he hasn't lost already. You're not doing Shimura any favors, you're forcing him to live a life he didn't want to live and even if the shogun doesn't have him killed he'll probably commit seppuku to be honest
Jeffrey Harris, if the shogun does come for Lord Shimura then Jin will save him, not as a samurai or the Ghost, but as a warrior, a warrior that they have been hunting for. One thing some fail to realize, including you, that family looks out for one another
@@inquisitorialstormtrooper2084 I'm not failing to realize anything. Obviously Jin would WANT to save him, but that's not the point. Lord Shimura wants to be able to die an honorable death as a samurai. If the shogun decides to take away Lord Shimura's status or orders his execution he won't be able to do that. And the more Jin gets in the way of his honorable death the more Shimura will resent him for it. The man is old, and he's dedicated his life to honor. By walking away you're basically spitting on him and everything he stands for.
@@almightydevin4793 theres this thing called google. You can type anything into what's known as the search bar and information will just pop up...its real neat...you should try it
I spared Lord Shimura. The main reason being the Lady Masako and Sensei Ishikawa tales. After completing those I felt that I valued family and the teacher/student bond, more than the Bushido code.
@@luhsuciyani1883 No one even knows Shimura failed to kill Jin in this duel except both of them and Yuna. It's a secret meeting. The shogun has no reason to believe he 'lost' his honour.
Remember Ishikawa’s final tale: he tells Jin not to make the same mistakes, losing the ones you love. Sparing Shimura is the best choice and the one that makes sense for Jin and his progression as a character.
I think it's also cannon. Directors cut you unlock Iki island during act 2 and can do that rite away. Spoiler ALERT!!! JIN tells the Yuna that no one knows he's on iki island not when lord Shimura.
"the ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days" "I know" Because the Ghost is the hero Tsushima deserves, but not the one it needs right now. He's running, because we have to chase him. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight.
Honor Died in the beach. Choosing to kill our uncle for Honor would mean that we validated the shogun's code of honor and that our choices as the ghost was wrong. Either way both endings have such an emotional impact. I'm happy Jin Sakai himself chose this ending XD
I don't quite agree with you. Sparing your uncle means that he will have to hunt you until yours or his death, which I found to be the worst punishment ever. Also I believe that you must kill him, because it's the way he desired, not killing him means that you're selfish and although you might not be following his honor code, also means that you became bound to a honor which doesn't mean that is always the right one. PS.: Though I am not able to find it, it seems the true ending is sparing Shimura.
@@sasugastream4699 I asked as well and he just said he's older than he looks lmao he never told us his age, so i'm guessing he's in his late 30s? maybe 36 to 39? that's just my guess
Many people "Honoring" his uncle when Jin already said his Honor died on the beach and the point of the game is transforming into Japanese batman who kills.
Many people dishonoring Lord Shimura like it's not a better departure from samurai-hood to kill the only person that holds what shred of honour he has left, Jin's honour dies with Lord Shimura, the only person that held him to his code throughout the entire game. Plus, Lord Shimura will die either way, being dishonored and failing your mission may be a cause for the Shogunate to call for Seppuku, especially a mission as important as killing The Ghost.
Well, the thing with "Honor" is that, is usually misunderstood, like, A LOT of times. Let me just put it simply. "Honor" is to describe Men who protected their homes at all costs. "Dishonor" is to describe Men who never do anything to protect their homes. The example of this very clear in history, when the Mongolians came to invade Japan, any Japanese who stood and fought the Mongolians at all costs, by any means necessary to protect their country, they are "Honorable". The ones who did not, they are not, that simple.
@@italianwaffle5592 He didn't die though he's still in the island there were no reports that says that the shogun made him commit seppuku and also that's a dumb decision if the shogun does that cuz he's literally one of the only survivor that fought on the beach which means he has experience with this types of enemy WHICH MEANS HE STILL HAS SOME USE. Btw he's still alive in the epilogue
Jin threw away his samurai code to save his uncle, he gave up his name and the chance to be the heir of Shimura clan to save the island, no way he gonna kill Shimura for some honor that no longer exsist
If that is your conclusion then you have no idea of the Samurai culture of that time.... that decision has nothing to do with Jins honor...if he loved his uncle and wanted to honor him then kill is the only clear option... there's a lot more reasons why
Watching this game in English is a bit strange after playing the entire thing in Japanese, but the English voice actors did a great job too. Amazing game and one of my favourites of this generation.
I never seen a badass till Jin was on that bridge saying: “I am Jin Sakai! Nephew(clears blood from sleeve with badass face)-of Lord Shimura.” That part Sounded better in english imo.
@@jackjohnson8305 i was distracted at first too but after awhile, it doesnt bug me at all. It feels natural since there are some things in japanese versiom really sounds great in japanese. Like when the npc were calling Sakai-sama (Lord sakai).. Idk it feels natural for me since the whole setting is Japan and the people are japanese. I mean, if you are watching anime, most of the time the characters mouth are out of sync too 🤷♀️🤷♀️ Not to mention most of the game japanese voice actors are the real anime voice actors.
as it should be, He's the Ghost that will forever haunt Tsushima. The true hero who will play the villain, who will strike fear into Tsushima's enemies.
I killed him because it just felt like this was what he wanted, to die an honorable death knowing that Jin was strong enough to go against the samurai code but respectfull enough to give him this last glimpse of Jin's samurai self. And the last words made me really emotional. In the end I imagine that Lord Shimura was just taking care of his little boy in the only way he knew how. This game is the GOTY for me.
My that what they want to rech you don’t think of me wrong but they want to get you from inside I mean they want say this the good way to go to heaven I think by cutting through head or chop it that was in the past and they meant to show you if you spare some it’s a dishonerbul
Same here. Through the flashbacks that led to the final duel, I couldn’t help but allow Jin to kill Lord Shimura. If that’s what he wanted, the least I could do was honor his wish. He fully lived the samurai life so a samurai death is what he deserved. This was Jin’s final act as to how Lord Shimura raised him. This is where it all began so I figured this was the place to put an end to both lives.
I don’t usually watch Twitch because it’s such a time dump to watch a streamer for hours, but it was such an experience to follow Dice and Earl through their journey in Ghost of Tsushima. They had such a low amount of viewers but I think that was a good thing because they were able to bond and communicate with the audience. Jeannie and Henry from MXRPlays and PotasticP gave Dice a lovely little twitch raid that exploded his viewers. Dice got through the entire ending sequence without dying. The entire stream and everyone who participated was just overwhelmingly wholesome. Sucker Punch people were there, other voice actors were there, it was Dice’s birthday. It was just such a beautiful moment. Much love to everyone on that stream as well as Sucker Punch as an entirety. Thanks for delivering a game so many people are emotionally invested in and coming together with us to watch the star of the show finish the game.
Ikr right, seeing that some of comments choose to kill him makes u overthink if u should have done the same😭 but literally both choices are hard to make, thats what makes this game so good. they did a good job.
Sparing Shimura is the ending that makes sense. At the beginning of the game, we see Jin as this honorable samurai who will not break his code but towards the end, we see his identity as an honorable samurai fade away because he knows that people's lives are far more important than some arbitrary and abstract system of honor. He has become the ghost and he embraces it fully, knowing that the evil he has done in the eyes of Shimura was all for the greater good of saving Tsushima. Killing your uncle is very uncharacteristic after the transformation we've just witnessed from Jin. It is unbecoming at this point, to somehow do a full 180 away from his samurai identity only to have himself turn around once more just to follow the code of honor (one in which he has already denounced!). Although at the surface, it may seem that sparing Shimura is the cruel choice but in actuality, it's Jin showing mercy and love for his uncle. Remember, he has accused him of being a slave to honor. Jin sparing his uncle is showing him that he loves his uncle enough by not giving him the satisfaction of dying to the very thing he is enslaved to. EDIT: Not to mention that killing his uncle, the Jito, will do Tsushima no good at all. Everything that Jin has done from the very beginning and thus far, was all in the name of saving Tsushima. I see no reason for Jin to kill his uncle as it doesn't align with his purest intents.
It doesn't make much sense to me. Jin never ceased to be honourable, he just ceased to be samurai. Giving his uncle a warrior's death is not reverting back to the code, but doing what Jin does best: do the right thing even at great personal sacrifice. Sure, it would be easier to spare him, but it would shame his uncle deeply, who would then be forced to take his own life to retain some of his honour so Tsushima wouldn't gain anything from that.
I chose to spare him. But I think the choice to kill Lord Shimura can be seen as a selfless sacrifice. Its your uncle’s system of honor, but I think it’s Jin’s choice to respect Shimura’s system of honor. But in the moment, I saw Shimura asking for death as a consequence of his honor code, and not something he really wanted. So I chose to spare him. I also didnt want “he murdered the Jito” rumors to taint my legacy
@@megac0ffee Either way his uncle dies, I get it. We even get to talk to an npc after the events of the game telling us that Shinura has passed. But Jin killing him, really out of some twisted view of honor? It is nonsensical. Yes Jin remained true to the end with regard to his code of honor which was to protect his people. A principle he takes after his father. Delivering the final blow to Shimura is never honorable in the eyes of Jin because it does nothing to protect the people of Tsushima. If anything, it was nothing but a vain request from Lord Shimura. Jin Sakai is the ghost; Not lord Shimura's son. Thus, the canon ending according to nate fox is to spare your uncle.
i killed my uncle 1st place for the following reasons: 1. Uncle has been living in his 'honor' and there seems no way he could live without it. He would be in so much pain and pressure after failing to defeat Jin and living in agony for the rest of his life 2. He tried to kill me. He did not help me think of other ways or even supported me once in front of other samurais regardless of so much Mongols I killed and he is surely a slave of 'honor'. Theres no way I could be safe if I spare him. 3. I want the white armor not the red... this is kidding
Also if you spare him, he will still have to commit seppuku since he couldn't do what the shogun told him to do. Since he is slave to honor, he will do seppuku without any doubt since it will redeem his honor back.
Yes. The man is facing death either way. You spent the entire game disobeying him. In his final moments, he wants to speak with his son, not The Ghost. Choosing to spare him is like one last spit in the face.
I think that the “spare” ending is the “true” or “good” ending because Jin, as a character, defended the innocent. He would never dream of killing an innocent life, only those that deserved to die. In the end, killing Shimura would’ve been a bad ending because Jin would’ve killed someone innocent, however misguided by their traditions. The people of Tsushima were saved by the Ghost, therefore, Jin not killing Shimura is cannon in my eyes.
Dude Why I killed him and it 100% felt like the right thing to do for me. He was going to kill me anyway his ”So called son” who the fuck kills their own family? No family of mine thats for sure. So his punishment was death by me. I could’ve spared him to ”teach him a lesson” but it was already clear at this point that he would never learn. So he died from his own stupidity and that didn’t make me feel bad at all.
@@Sumea_Saukko Sort of contradicted there. You said who kills their own family? Lord Shimura is your uncle. Just like Dominic Toretto said. "Never turn your back on family, even when they do"
King Brent What’s contradicted? He is your uncle and therefore your family. He was too blinded in my opinion by his Samurai code so i had to let him go, so that he wouldn’t spread any more of his ignorance. I did the right thing in my opinion. Sure he might’ve been a good man. But all in all he was too stubborn and naive and wouldn’t listen to his own ”Son.” and that cost him his life. Ultimately both choices make sense depending how you want to look at it so i don’t think killing him should be referred to as a ”bad ending”.
@@Sumea_Saukko I can respect your look on this. However, that’s not really how Jin is played out to be. By becoming the Ghost, he accepts the fact that one day he’ll either get hunted down and killed by his uncle or the Shogun or even other samurai. Or, he’ll have to fight back. But he doesn’t harm the innocent. While his uncle is very misguided, he did nothing “wrong.” That’s my reasoning and my opinion on the matter. Either way you cut it, in the future (if there is one) Jin will be hunted for his actions. Both endings set that up plain as day. There’s no “wrong” answer here, but it’s all about perspective ya know?
Eh I have to disagree man. Sparing Shimura just seems like the worse thing to do for the time period the game takes place in. Shimura has to go back to the Shogun and report his failure and most of the possible options don't seem great. He could Ethier end up having to hunt Jin for his entire life which In itself can be painful for him since he would have his feelings and emtion to collate with the samurai code and his love for his nephew. The 2nd option would be to commit seppuku for failing a important misson as killing the ghost. Ethier way it's a lose lose if you spare him. Which is why I like the kill option you are respecting his wishes as well as preventing any pain he would have to face and not to the emotional impact and white armor you get.
I went with sparing him. And I thought it was the choice that solidified jin's arc into the ghost. Because he really leaves the samurai by following his own code which is "save my loved ones by whatever means necessary". And i love that line "you've taught people to disobey their leaders." "I taught them how to defend themselves". And i loved it because by letting go of the samurai code and his former life he was also becoming one of the people. And the ghost is the people's hero. And i liked that commentary about how the samurai were kinda fighting for the "idea" and pride that they will not be conquered while at the same time shimura is ready to frame people for Jin. While you see how throughout his journey you see him protecting the people of tsushima out of a sense of ownership but by the end it's like the ghost is a servant to the people. And that's why I love the sparing ending cause it's like jin's like fuck this I'm following my own path. And homeboy leaves both shimura's shadow but also with clan sakai being disbanded he's able to leave the trauma of not being able to save his dad, which he earns by saving tsushima. Regardless such a good fucking game.
I 100% believe that in the canon story he spared him. Because that’s him saying I don’t care about your honor, I’m not going to kill my uncle/father figure, I am the Ghost. This is who I am, and I am the hero Tsushima needs AND deserves.
Red Panda I wouldn’t agree to that. Jin doesn’t follow Japanese culture and the samurai code as much as most in his time. He wouldn’t kill his family because of Shimura’s honor code. He’s the Ghost not a samurai. I feel like no matter what the situation is in Jin’s eyes he would never kill his own family because of some messed up honor code. He’s not a slave to it like Shimura. From what we hear from Yuriko about Jin’s dad Kazumasa I doubt he would’ve killed Shimura in a similar situation as well. In my eyes Jin refusing to kill his uncle is more honorable and respectable than him killing his own family.
Gotham Savior Adding to that, in the game we see that Jin is tramautized after letting his father die. Sparing Shimura felt way more in line with Jin’s character because he would never resort to killing his own family, especially after his father’s death which he blames himself for.
After finishing story, while collecting the last few things I had missed I fast traveled to a town. Caught a conversation between two ladies, one describing how she saw Shimura returning to his castle bloody and half dead or whatever(I spared him) but she was angry at The Ghost for doing it. The other was in defense of The Ghost because of how he’d saved the island and, this line stuck out in particular, “is building a huge army to go to the mainland and defeat the Mongol Army and their Kahn.” That, sounds like our sequel.
I love that both choices make sense and are satisfying conclusions to the characters involved, whatever you chose, you felt closure for an amazing story
Just finished the game and went straight to youtube. Just finished the game. Killing him was the best option. When Jin said you would be remembered as my father and then unc said thank my son and find me in another life my heart erupted in tears 😢😢 ♾️/10 game
This same thing happened to me. I was going to kill him all along but I ended up sparing him at the last minute. It just didn't seem like Jin /wanted/ to kill him (to the point of deliberately missing his vitals during the last strike). His uncle was the only family he had left and he never wavered in caring about him throughout the game so I couldn't really see him doing it despite everything. I really like how fitting the 'I have no honor' line is for the decision (fully taking on the role of the Ghost over being an honorable Samurai). Whether Shimura faces consequences from the Shogun later or not, I personally think sparing him works thematically with the other big character Tales in the game. Yuna, Ishikawa, Masako, and Norio have all done morally gray things and endured loss as a result of the war and they just have to find a way to live with it. And the same goes for Shimura, for however long that lasts.
Even if you spare him, he still dies. One of the npcs asks him about Lord Shimura and Jin replies that he has passed away. Otherwise I think that both choices were something that Jin would do. Since he cares so much about his uncle fulfilling his last wish is the least he can do for him.Also as someone who chose to spare ,I wish I could have killed him since the other skin looks way better.
eIvanNikolov Jin actually lies in that interaction, as in the epilogue Jin and Yuna talk about whether Lord Shimura would keep hunting Jin or not. Shimura was spared by the Shougun, apparently. But his punishment of having to kill Jin when given the chance still stands.
Didn't expect this sad ending even after sparring his uncle. Jin did what needed to be done but could also understand his uncles point of view. Still a brilliant game. Replay is just as exciting as the first playthrough
I am very sad to see the ending of this game, I actually hope that this game will never end because I still want to see Jin Sakai and Yuna, they are my favorite characters when watching the gameplay of this game 🥺🥺
I've seen both endings, and sparing him felt like the right ending to me. As Jin became the ghost, he abandoned the samurai code and slowly lost his 'honor'. However he formed his own code of honor by doing what he felt was right, even if some of the methods were frowned upon. If he had given his uncle an honourable warriors death, he would have been reverting back to a past he had long left behind. The ghost follows his own code, not the samurai. This is when jin truly became the ghost
Funny because when you kill, you get a white armor die which that color represents death, hence ghost. Sparing gives you red, and represents life. IMO the kill ending is fitting for feudal Japan ethics and sparing is typical for westerners.
I think Jin killing his Uncle was for his memory. For his Uncle to have his last moments be happy ones with his son, and not having to be hunting him down for the rest of his life. Also I think I took as Jin would make the exception to do this one final honorary act. An exception he would only make for his uncles memory.
given we would have to be Japanese to fully understand all this, try to imagine shimura having to report to the shogun that he lost his duel with the ghost, after being commanded to take his head as part of his punishment, and that he’s also been spared… which I imagine also translates to shimura being dishonored in the face of the shogun. Who could then either disband clan shimura also, ordering to take his life or stripping him of land and samurai rank reducing him to a ronin. if there is a sequel, it could start from the disgrace of lord shimura, who would either die by suicide or join jin as a ronin. I don’t see him having the power to keep hunting him down. Maybe a Japanese could answer this better. Was an awesome game, I also spared him. The ghost is a protector not an executioner. And the second you kill your family, your soul is lost. But that should also be seen through the lenses of Japanese culture, so I can’t judge.
I love the fact that this game allows people to make these decisions in the perspective of the character or yourself (for some it's just entertainment, for others it can be a moment of self reflection). I understand what PewDiePie said about honoring him with a warrior's death, as an act that would be done by the son that Lord Shimura would of wanted (and I initially wanted to do that). However, it was another UA-camr that spoke about the journey Jin took through the game as he became further and further away from the Samurai, and took up the mantel of the Ghost. I felt that even though sparing him would put Lord Shimura to shame, and heck he might commit Seppuku for it, killing Lord Shimura would not be something the Ghost would of done. I really feel like it draws some parallels with The Dark Knight, and Code Geass.
Whether u choose to kill or to spare, Lord Shimura will have to already be dead for the sequel, to prevent confusion for players who choose to kill him.
@@NirodimosNeedAKing I doubt it, he's too much of an asset to the shogun. If anything he'll just be ordered to hunt Jin to reclaim his honour in the sequel which would have interesting implications for both characters.
@@UmbraXCVII Assets are expendable. Any Shogun in history would have him executed (if they didn't commit seppuku), and then put in another governor (an incompetent, yet loyal relative likely).
Such an amazing game this should definitely win game of the year, best soundtrack, best game play, best graphics and visuals, just amazing and the acting is superb.
As someone who has finished the game and made my own choice at the end that made sense both to me and what I felt made sense to the character... I came to this video to gain insight from the man himself. Regardless what choice he made, I was going to learn something. And I did. I learned I made the right choice, because it was his choice too. Great video.
Yuna is he one who saved Jin and she was the beginning of his journey to the Ghost. If he never met her, I don’t think he would have become the Ghost Of Tsushima.
@@anessamer Its just a what if scenario but imagine if we as players literally had to choose at the end of act 2 whether to kill Yuna and "renouce the ghost" as his uncle said or to kill/fight his uncle there and then, similar to Sekiro where you either choose to obey or break the iron code. Depending on the choice made would majorly impact the rest of the game from there. Saving Yuna I see the story playing out the same except for Jin writing the letter and him fighting uncle after killing Khan. Killing Yuna would see Jin becoming Shimuras son and they take on the mongols the honorable way as his uncle wanted but the fact that he killed Yuna would haunt Jin throughout the rest of his life.
Because he's the hero we deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Ghost of Tsushima... (Fin!)
@Jin Sakai, Amazing performance! You killed it in this game. Congrats on the success of the game and I hope there's a sequel and we get to see more of you.
honor me with warrior death YTBER : ask the live chat ME : Save game data and choose an ending to let Lord Shimura live because I want to hear that epic song
For me I think i'll choose spare. Lord Shimura's honor is a code and he's a slave to it. Jin's honor is a heart. If Jin kill Lord Shimura. He will see that at least. Jin still has a bit of Honor in him but that honor is a lies. Jin is not a slave to it (The Code) Spare him. The Shogun might let him live or order him to seppuku. But before that. He can take his time thinking about Jin's honor. Hope he finally open his eyes and see Jin's Honor. Then die knowing that his son sacrificed himself, Protecting people's lives.
What does it matter if the honor is a lie tho? Jin gave him a warriors death and in shimura's eyes he redeemed himself by doing so. Imo parring him is selfish, you are condemning an old man to live alone as an embarrassing failure for the rest of his life tainting his honor.
There’s no “real” ending, both of these endings do justice to provide the players choice. Killing lord shimura to finally honor your uncles last wish or to lose that honor in order to fully embrace the way of the Legendary Ghost.
Jin, I really enjoyed playing this game for the first time through, just beat it last night , and I still am going on to do the dlc, what an amazing game , and an amazing job done on your part and end , and all the rest of the cast , and creators/director/production etc! God bless you all! 💙🙏🏻🙌🏻 ty for also sharing your experience here with the world!
I spared Lord Shimuru, for me this made the most sense. Jin's choices throughout the game led him to for forgo the ways of the Samurai and stop being a slave to the honour system in order to seek the greater good and most importantly to put the people of Tsushima first. Jin and his Uncle have a conversation about his Uncles heir on the way to this battle where it was discussed that there is still time for him to marry and have an heir. Killing him him leaves the island without a ruler which ultimately leaves it vulnerable, saving Uncle allows rule and order to be reestablished after the conflict of the invasion which is much needed and the promises of an heir can help maintain that in the future.
So happy that the actor that played Jin made the same choice I did. Awesome meta video haha. also I had a similar experience. After they killed Kage, the best virtual horse of all time, I was so mad I was positive I was going to kill Shimura but in that moment I couldn’t betray my own values for a code that I’d been breaking the entire game.
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I was very sad when the ghost of Tsusima was finished, congratulations on staying with Jin Sakai, Yuriko, Sensei Isikawa Norio, Nobu, Kenji, Lord Shimura, and other
Hi Daisuke Tsuji
I want to know how was the process when filming the voice actor in Ghost of Tsusima
@@zacky4820, you can visit daisuke IG or you can visit his twitch videos, he told great stories about process to make this game
@@jinsakai5137 ok thanks daisuke tsuji
Jin was So popular that they made him in real life
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Dude did you hear that they made a real tsushima based on the game
@@serotonin7128 yeah that's epic
Kahn: *Looks down at Jin*
“Jin.”
Lord shimura: the ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days
Jin: k
Me: yes! sequel incoming
Guy: *starring at girl*
Girl: NO PLEASE STOP IM SCARED😭
Shimura: The Ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days
Jin: I know
Jin "Best-Samurai-in-the-Island" Sakai: cool story bro
Jin: “If that’s the price I must pay for saving our people-including you-then so be it.”
To be honest, would you be scared if you had a bunch of legendary armors, techniques, ghost weapons and pretty much bodied the mongol army almost single handedly?
Yeah yeah I know he didn’t do it by himself and other people gave those techniques and armors and stuff but you have to admit, dudes PRETTY OP
It turns out that after killing the Mongols and Khotun Khan ... Lord Sakai is now a UA-camr ... Nice my Lord 👌👌
Hmm...
he has no honor
That's cuz he's a bad ass
@@tristinclapp1566 he is a bad ASS literally in the game
@@smilingbunny3282 You are a slave to it.
“This whole game is an origin story” do I hear a trilogy in the making!?
I hope so. I want to see more of jin!
Oh yes, please! I need more of this. And after all, there was a second invasion just a few years later.
Like infamous??? I hope so
this game is hella good im 2/3 done with it and its awesome i really do hope they make another and i cant wait to see how it will looks like on the ps5
How cool would it be if the decision you made in this part will alter the story for you in the next game?
"The ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days."
*becomes a streamer
Lmao
Lol
😂😂😂
Lol
“Way to blow your cover, dip shit!”
"i have no honor, but i will not kill my family". What a beautiful dialogue!
Find me in the afterlife is better
The death conversation is muuuch better
Yeah I killed him. I wanted his final act he saw of Jin to be honorable. Also if you let him live, he will live a life full of suffering and may even commit suicide. I thought that killing him was the best thing to do.
@@MrCaw77 he will have to commit suicide. To face the shogun after being spared is not an option. So Jin sparing him is condemning him to that fate.
@@MrCaw77 I did both and saved on different files so later I could see if future DLC behaves the way the ending was chosen.
Given how he abandons honor and traditional tactics to protect his people, sparing him felt right. It was like the final middle finger he gave to tradition and what was expected of him.
Underrated comment
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Exactly. Killing Shimura would’ve gone against Jin’s philosophy and would basically prove that Shimura was right and that honor is everything
But tbh the shogun would have killed shimura anyways for failing...or he could commit seppuku for not honoring the shogun..
Samurai didn’t kill family. To do so was a dishonorable unless instructed to do so by the Jito or Shogun(refer to Masako’s storyline, when she was both mortified to find out the truth about her sister and also wouldn’t kill her). Killing Shimura both gave him a quick release and also kind of proved that you had abandoned the samurai way completely. Not killing him kind of showed Jin still respected the Samurai and their ways but, I gotta do what I gotta do to win this war cuz the old ways aren’t cutting it uncle(hints: “I have no honor BUT I will not kill family”). With that said, I let him live cuz he killed my horse(or I blame him for the death anyways) and I figured it was a greater pain to let him live and spend everyday remembering what he lost.
This scene brought me back to when he was a kid sparring with uncle and Uncle asks: “What does honor mean to you?” Jin’s heart replies: “To protect people.” So its like Honor resides in oneself, The way you live, how you treat others determines what You honor/your values. I think its safe to say that it is not selfish when the true intentions are selfless. Jin has brought honor, to his heart. SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GAME!
I haven't played the game and I watched all the cutscene. Finally! what you said is exactly what my thought was leading up to that choice. It gave me the feeling that that part of the game was going to be crucial because seeing how firm Lord Shimura corrected him with what Jins definition of honor was. Right then and there you see their difference and where they might have a conflict down the line. It really is a beautiful game, they gave the game to us they didn't give us to the game.
yes main catch of this game is... its beauty... 😭
Jin has his own way of honor then.
The way of the Ghost.
Is this the real jin sakai
@@jerardyu9677 why not wait until you can get the game and play it your self??
"If not as father and son, then as warriors who have walked different paths." - Jin Sakai
I spared him too. In the end, I felt sorry for him. He's a good guy, just a very traditional rigid mentality, he loved Jin as a son. Couldn't kill him.
Me too
When shimura commits seppuku right after
@@apatheticdoctor8901 he doesn't tho?
@@DatBlueVQ I think he does, as that's the only way he could keep his honor after being spared
Ya, I killed that sob. He killed my Sora.
The real Jin Sakai has decided it. No more arguments.
I'm sorry but I chose killing Shimura cause I had my reasons to believe it was right. My playthrough, my choice. 😄
Lol
Leone Cartel Remastered geez bro get the joke ‘“woosh”’
@@TheGerardo136 Dude, why'd you think I put the laughing emoji ?!
INR,!!!!
Only lucky people get Jin Saki honorable likes.
i guess im not lucky then
Ooh ur so lucky🥺
Ohh 😡
Sir you are the chosen 1
who else did the side quests first?
Honor comes in many forms, not just a code but in everyone’s actions. What you did was honorable, Jin Sakai
👁️👄👁️
True. He has no longer bonded with the code of samurai. Spare him doesn't mean that he didn't "honored" his uncle's wish. He admitted that if he can no longer meet his uncle as father and son, at least he could see him as a warrior who walked on different paths with him, for the sake of the people.
I don't like this take to be honest lol. I don't care what choice people make, but don't call sparing him honorable. You leave him without a son or any family,, and by losing to you in the duel he has failed his mission for the shogun. So the shogun will either have him killed or punish him by taking everything else away that he hasn't lost already. You're not doing Shimura any favors, you're forcing him to live a life he didn't want to live and even if the shogun doesn't have him killed he'll probably commit seppuku to be honest
Jeffrey Harris, if the shogun does come for Lord Shimura then Jin will save him, not as a samurai or the Ghost, but as a warrior, a warrior that they have been hunting for. One thing some fail to realize, including you, that family looks out for one another
@@inquisitorialstormtrooper2084 I'm not failing to realize anything. Obviously Jin would WANT to save him, but that's not the point. Lord Shimura wants to be able to die an honorable death as a samurai. If the shogun decides to take away Lord Shimura's status or orders his execution he won't be able to do that. And the more Jin gets in the way of his honorable death the more Shimura will resent him for it. The man is old, and he's dedicated his life to honor. By walking away you're basically spitting on him and everything he stands for.
The guy who played lord shimura did a excellent job to convey emotion with his performance.
bro he is one hell of an actor
Who is it?
@@almightydevin4793 theres this thing called google. You can type anything into what's known as the search bar and information will just pop up...its real neat...you should try it
@@Fartylipjuice or I could just ask here
@@almightydevin4793 little but late but I check and it's Eric Stienburg but I bet you already knew that by now lol
In the end Jin stayed true to what he believes. To him, honor means protecting those who can't defend themselves.
💯💯
Exactly!
For me, there's also a loophole. Since he's no longer a Samurai he has no obligation to uphold the code of honor.
He lost the duel and deserved to die just like everybody else who chose to step against the Ghost.
@@watcherman222 "honor died on the beach" said Jin while showing his middle finger to the samurais
This is like watching Arthur’s voice actor play Red Dead 2
@@SuperSaiyan3985 so he's not the voice actor??
@@SuperSaiyan3985 wait who are we talking about here Roger or daisuke
SuperSaiyan3985 well the game isn't better than this
SuperSaiyan3985 well you think it is
SuperSaiyan3985 nah not really
I spared Lord Shimura. The main reason being the Lady Masako and Sensei Ishikawa tales. After completing those I felt that I valued family and the teacher/student bond, more than the Bushido code.
Yeah and lord shimura will die in Shogun hands
Same, at this point Jin doesn’t care for Honor or what his higher ups think. He’s lost enough.
@@luhsuciyani1883 he won’t die, he lives on. It’s hinted in the game after you finish it
@@luhsuciyani1883 No one even knows Shimura failed to kill Jin in this duel except both of them and Yuna. It's a secret meeting. The shogun has no reason to believe he 'lost' his honour.
Right! Lord Shimura is the only family Jin has! Best Uncle there it is!!!
Seeing Shimura cry always catches my attention. It's such a powerful scene of an uncle who is struggling with his duty and family
Remember Ishikawa’s final tale: he tells Jin not to make the same mistakes, losing the ones you love. Sparing Shimura is the best choice and the one that makes sense for Jin and his progression as a character.
Also the scene where Jin kills the rogue bandit who tried to assassinate Shimura. Jin listened to Shimura then. Not now.
I think it's also cannon. Directors cut you unlock Iki island during act 2 and can do that rite away. Spoiler ALERT!!! JIN tells the Yuna that no one knows he's on iki island not when lord Shimura.
"the ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days"
"I know"
Because the Ghost is the hero Tsushima deserves, but not the one it needs right now. He's running, because we have to chase him. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight.
thanks for making me realize That Tsushima had its own Batman.
The league of shadows begins now
He is a dark knight he is batman who kills
Then it pick up in his batcave after the credits.
The Ghost is a one man League of Assassins.
Honor Died in the beach. Choosing to kill our uncle for Honor would mean that we validated the shogun's code of honor and that our choices as the ghost was wrong.
Either way both endings have such an emotional impact. I'm happy Jin Sakai himself chose this ending XD
Eh??
Found kuya gloco hereㅠㅜ
I killed shimura because he wanted me to
I don't quite agree with you. Sparing your uncle means that he will have to hunt you until yours or his death, which I found to be the worst punishment ever. Also I believe that you must kill him, because it's the way he desired, not killing him means that you're selfish and although you might not be following his honor code, also means that you became bound to a honor which doesn't mean that is always the right one.
PS.: Though I am not able to find it, it seems the true ending is sparing Shimura.
@ This is why I love how Suckerpunch gave people the option. Jin's journey and experiences is interpreted in so many ways by different players~
i was in his stream last night, it was his bday so it was awesome, such a wholesome dude
he looks still young, how old he is? sorry i'm just curious
i mean really curious
@@sasugastream4699 I asked as well and he just said he's older than he looks lmao he never told us his age, so i'm guessing he's in his late 30s? maybe 36 to 39? that's just my guess
What’s his twitch channel called?
@@hoomagoat4513 DiceK2G
Jin said it. “Honor died on the beach.”
Not Shimura's. Shimura's died in a circle of maple leaves.
@@yehndor so somewhere in Canada got it 😂😂😂
Daisuke: "I wanted to think about what the character would do"
*IS THE CHARACTER*
Many people "Honoring" his uncle when Jin already said his Honor died on the beach and the point of the game is transforming into Japanese batman who kills.
Many people dishonoring Lord Shimura like it's not a better departure from samurai-hood to kill the only person that holds what shred of honour he has left, Jin's honour dies with Lord Shimura, the only person that held him to his code throughout the entire game. Plus, Lord Shimura will die either way, being dishonored and failing your mission may be a cause for the Shogunate to call for Seppuku, especially a mission as important as killing The Ghost.
Well, the thing with "Honor" is that, is usually misunderstood, like, A LOT of times.
Let me just put it simply. "Honor" is to describe Men who protected their homes at all costs. "Dishonor" is to describe Men who never do anything to protect their homes.
The example of this very clear in history, when the Mongolians came to invade Japan, any Japanese who stood and fought the Mongolians at all costs, by any means necessary to protect their country, they are "Honorable".
The ones who did not, they are not, that simple.
Welp both choice has good points and let's leave it at that.
@@italianwaffle5592 He didn't die though he's still in the island there were no reports that says that the shogun made him commit seppuku and also that's a dumb decision if the shogun does that cuz he's literally one of the only survivor that fought on the beach which means he has experience with this types of enemy WHICH MEANS HE STILL HAS SOME USE. Btw he's still alive in the epilogue
@@derplololol9717 that's cool, you can have your opinion, I have mine, he should die, it's better for the story.
Jin threw away his samurai code to save his uncle, he gave up his name and the chance to be the heir of Shimura clan to save the island, no way he gonna kill Shimura for some honor that no longer exsist
Yeah and he said that he have no honor, so basically him killing shimura means dirtying his uncle's honor
Probably out of respect for his uncle and the fact shimura would probably would probably have to kill himself for his failure
He's the ghost the way of the samurai is no more for jin.
If that is your conclusion then you have no idea of the Samurai culture of that time.... that decision has nothing to do with Jins honor...if he loved his uncle and wanted to honor him then kill is the only clear option... there's a lot more reasons why
@@arturius9715 yes if you stay with the samurai culture I do understand but jin ain't no samurai he is the ghost
Watching this game in English is a bit strange after playing the entire thing in Japanese, but the English voice actors did a great job too. Amazing game and one of my favourites of this generation.
This games original game language was english. I cannot play on japanese because most of the times what they said did not sinc with their mouth
Yeah i played on English even tho i wanted to play it in Japanese but i couldn't cuz the lip sync was distracting af and killed the immersion.
I never seen a badass till Jin was on that bridge saying: “I am Jin Sakai! Nephew(clears blood from sleeve with badass face)-of Lord Shimura.” That part Sounded better in english imo.
Going to do a second play through in Japanese because ... Zoro.
@@jackjohnson8305 i was distracted at first too but after awhile, it doesnt bug me at all. It feels natural since there are some things in japanese versiom really sounds great in japanese. Like when the npc were calling Sakai-sama (Lord sakai).. Idk it feels natural for me since the whole setting is Japan and the people are japanese. I mean, if you are watching anime, most of the time the characters mouth are out of sync too 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Not to mention most of the game japanese voice actors are the real anime voice actors.
as it should be, He's the Ghost that will forever haunt Tsushima. The true hero who will play the villain, who will strike fear into Tsushima's enemies.
Eather you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
- Harvey Dent
Just completed the game and gotta say you did an amazing job Daisuke. Jin will go down as one of the best characters this generation.
I killed him because it just felt like this was what he wanted, to die an honorable death knowing that Jin was strong enough to go against the samurai code but respectfull enough to give him this last glimpse of Jin's samurai self. And the last words made me really emotional.
In the end I imagine that Lord Shimura was just taking care of his little boy in the only way he knew how.
This game is the GOTY for me.
I killed him because I thought he was a dick.
@@unbiasedcobra6672 simple problem, required simple solution
My that what they want to rech you don’t think of me wrong but they want to get you from inside I mean they want say this the good way to go to heaven I think by cutting through head or chop it that was in the past and they meant to show you if you spare some it’s a dishonerbul
@@unbiasedcobra6672 lmao this made he laugh so hard after reading everyone's choices
Same here. Through the flashbacks that led to the final duel, I couldn’t help but allow Jin to kill Lord Shimura. If that’s what he wanted, the least I could do was honor his wish. He fully lived the samurai life so a samurai death is what he deserved. This was Jin’s final act as to how Lord Shimura raised him. This is where it all began so I figured this was the place to put an end to both lives.
I don’t usually watch Twitch because it’s such a time dump to watch a streamer for hours, but it was such an experience to follow Dice and Earl through their journey in Ghost of Tsushima. They had such a low amount of viewers but I think that was a good thing because they were able to bond and communicate with the audience. Jeannie and Henry from MXRPlays and PotasticP gave Dice a lovely little twitch raid that exploded his viewers. Dice got through the entire ending sequence without dying.
The entire stream and everyone who participated was just overwhelmingly wholesome. Sucker Punch people were there, other voice actors were there, it was Dice’s birthday. It was just such a beautiful moment. Much love to everyone on that stream as well as Sucker Punch as an entirety. Thanks for delivering a game so many people are emotionally invested in and coming together with us to watch the star of the show finish the game.
first stream of DiceK even hard to reach 100 views
really adorable person
It's fun to watch someone who's part of the game, playing it. Stefanie Joosten plays MGSV, Brianna White plays FF7, Daisue plays Ghost Tsushima
he's nice and sweet, along with his friends too,Earl. i recently follow them on twitch ;)
I like Twitch. I'm NEET though so it's a fair point.
this just made me feel better about the spare ending
Ikr right, seeing that some of comments choose to kill him makes u overthink if u should have done the same😭 but literally both choices are hard to make, thats what makes this game so good. they did a good job.
@@kotoamatsukami2582 ikr, I did the spare choice and I was starting to think it was the wrong choice...
"This whole game is an origin story" I feel like he just accidentally leaked that there is plans for a sequel
You know this game is OUTSTANDING when even the actor is emotional about this decision!
Sparing Shimura is the ending that makes sense. At the beginning of the game, we see Jin as this honorable samurai who will not break his code but towards the end, we see his identity as an honorable samurai fade away because he knows that people's lives are far more important than some arbitrary and abstract system of honor. He has become the ghost and he embraces it fully, knowing that the evil he has done in the eyes of Shimura was all for the greater good of saving Tsushima.
Killing your uncle is very uncharacteristic after the transformation we've just witnessed from Jin. It is unbecoming at this point, to somehow do a full 180 away from his samurai identity only to have himself turn around once more just to follow the code of honor (one in which he has already denounced!).
Although at the surface, it may seem that sparing Shimura is the cruel choice but in actuality, it's Jin showing mercy and love for his uncle. Remember, he has accused him of being a slave to honor. Jin sparing his uncle is showing him that he loves his uncle enough by not giving him the satisfaction of dying to the very thing he is enslaved to.
EDIT: Not to mention that killing his uncle, the Jito, will do Tsushima no good at all. Everything that Jin has done from the very beginning and thus far, was all in the name of saving Tsushima. I see no reason for Jin to kill his uncle as it doesn't align with his purest intents.
It doesn't make much sense to me. Jin never ceased to be honourable, he just ceased to be samurai. Giving his uncle a warrior's death is not reverting back to the code, but doing what Jin does best: do the right thing even at great personal sacrifice. Sure, it would be easier to spare him, but it would shame his uncle deeply, who would then be forced to take his own life to retain some of his honour so Tsushima wouldn't gain anything from that.
I chose to spare him. But I think the choice to kill Lord Shimura can be seen as a selfless sacrifice. Its your uncle’s system of honor, but I think it’s Jin’s choice to respect Shimura’s system of honor. But in the moment, I saw Shimura asking for death as a consequence of his honor code, and not something he really wanted. So I chose to spare him. I also didnt want “he murdered the Jito” rumors to taint my legacy
@No.1 Spidey-Fan
"Jin never said he gave up on honor"
"Honor died on the beach" -Jin
@@megac0ffee Either way his uncle dies, I get it. We even get to talk to an npc after the events of the game telling us that Shinura has passed. But Jin killing him, really out of some twisted view of honor? It is nonsensical.
Yes Jin remained true to the end with regard to his code of honor which was to protect his people. A principle he takes after his father. Delivering the final blow to Shimura is never honorable in the eyes of Jin because it does nothing to protect the people of Tsushima. If anything, it was nothing but a vain request from Lord Shimura.
Jin Sakai is the ghost; Not lord Shimura's son. Thus, the canon ending according to nate fox is to spare your uncle.
lets be honest, both endings were legendary.
i killed my uncle 1st place for the following reasons:
1. Uncle has been living in his 'honor' and there seems no way he could live without it. He would be in so much pain and pressure after failing to defeat Jin and living in agony for the rest of his life
2. He tried to kill me. He did not help me think of other ways or even supported me once in front of other samurais regardless of so much Mongols I killed and he is surely a slave of 'honor'. Theres no way I could be safe if I spare him.
3. I want the white armor not the red... this is kidding
Also if you spare him, he will still have to commit seppuku since he couldn't do what the shogun told him to do. Since he is slave to honor, he will do seppuku without any doubt since it will redeem his honor back.
Yes. The man is facing death either way. You spent the entire game disobeying him. In his final moments, he wants to speak with his son, not The Ghost.
Choosing to spare him is like one last spit in the face.
@@Auriansmule just like infamous
@@PowerDragon999
Either that or the Shogun will have him endlessly hunt his nephew until either one is dead.
@@valianthorizon6890 Prob that too and that would cause him further more pain.
Did anyone else start to tear up when Lord Shimura let out the scream from your final blow of the fight? This whole scene gave me chills
JIN: I will not Kill my family
WALKS AWAY....
Lord Shimura: Seppuku
That or he dies next game
Not like this choices really matters
@@snakekingblues3017 i really hope next game Jin have another heroic ending earning the Shotgun's trust and support.
Jin - I have no honor, but I will not kill my family
Lord Shirmura - I have honor and I will kill my family
even the macarroni has honor "omerta"
At the end, "I'm making 🎁 s for Yuna." 😆😆😆
If I was him I'd make presents in yuna 😉😉😂😂😂
U rock lord saki!!
This game is lots like all star wars films in this game.
Kylo ren beats his side like jin did to heal
@@tristinclapp1566 Sakai?
Is so weird seeing him in real life. I've become so attached to Sakai and his story
I think that the “spare” ending is the “true” or “good” ending because Jin, as a character, defended the innocent. He would never dream of killing an innocent life, only those that deserved to die. In the end, killing Shimura would’ve been a bad ending because Jin would’ve killed someone innocent, however misguided by their traditions. The people of Tsushima were saved by the Ghost, therefore, Jin not killing Shimura is cannon in my eyes.
Dude Why I killed him and it 100% felt like the right thing to do for me. He was going to kill me anyway his ”So called son” who the fuck kills their own family? No family of mine thats for sure. So his punishment was death by me. I could’ve spared him to ”teach him a lesson” but it was already clear at this point that he would never learn. So he died from his own stupidity and that didn’t make me feel bad at all.
@@Sumea_Saukko Sort of contradicted there. You said who kills their own family? Lord Shimura is your uncle. Just like Dominic Toretto said. "Never turn your back on family, even when they do"
King Brent What’s contradicted? He is your uncle and therefore your family. He was too blinded in my opinion by his Samurai code so i had to let him go, so that he wouldn’t spread any more of his ignorance. I did the right thing in my opinion. Sure he might’ve been a good man. But all in all he was too stubborn and naive and wouldn’t listen to his own ”Son.” and that cost him his life. Ultimately both choices make sense depending how you want to look at it so i don’t think killing him should be referred to as a ”bad ending”.
@@Sumea_Saukko I can respect your look on this. However, that’s not really how Jin is played out to be. By becoming the Ghost, he accepts the fact that one day he’ll either get hunted down and killed by his uncle or the Shogun or even other samurai. Or, he’ll have to fight back. But he doesn’t harm the innocent. While his uncle is very misguided, he did nothing “wrong.” That’s my reasoning and my opinion on the matter. Either way you cut it, in the future (if there is one) Jin will be hunted for his actions. Both endings set that up plain as day. There’s no “wrong” answer here, but it’s all about perspective ya know?
Eh I have to disagree man. Sparing Shimura just seems like the worse thing to do for the time period the game takes place in. Shimura has to go back to the Shogun and report his failure and most of the possible options don't seem great. He could Ethier end up having to hunt Jin for his entire life which In itself can be painful for him since he would have his feelings and emtion to collate with the samurai code and his love for his nephew. The 2nd option would be to commit seppuku for failing a important misson as killing the ghost. Ethier way it's a lose lose if you spare him. Which is why I like the kill option you are respecting his wishes as well as preventing any pain he would have to face and not to the emotional impact and white armor you get.
I went with sparing him. And I thought it was the choice that solidified jin's arc into the ghost. Because he really leaves the samurai by following his own code which is "save my loved ones by whatever means necessary". And i love that line "you've taught people to disobey their leaders." "I taught them how to defend themselves". And i loved it because by letting go of the samurai code and his former life he was also becoming one of the people. And the ghost is the people's hero. And i liked that commentary about how the samurai were kinda fighting for the "idea" and pride that they will not be conquered while at the same time shimura is ready to frame people for Jin. While you see how throughout his journey you see him protecting the people of tsushima out of a sense of ownership but by the end it's like the ghost is a servant to the people. And that's why I love the sparing ending cause it's like jin's like fuck this I'm following my own path. And homeboy leaves both shimura's shadow but also with clan sakai being disbanded he's able to leave the trauma of not being able to save his dad, which he earns by saving tsushima. Regardless such a good fucking game.
8:24 he says this whole game is an origin story.. here’s to hoping we get some more content of the ghost’s adventures
I 100% believe that in the canon story he spared him. Because that’s him saying I don’t care about your honor, I’m not going to kill my uncle/father figure, I am the Ghost. This is who I am, and I am the hero Tsushima needs AND deserves.
Pretty selfish in my eyes
Red Panda I wouldn’t agree to that. Jin doesn’t follow Japanese culture and the samurai code as much as most in his time. He wouldn’t kill his family because of Shimura’s honor code. He’s the Ghost not a samurai. I feel like no matter what the situation is in Jin’s eyes he would never kill his own family because of some messed up honor code. He’s not a slave to it like Shimura. From what we hear from Yuriko about Jin’s dad Kazumasa I doubt he would’ve killed Shimura in a similar situation as well. In my eyes Jin refusing to kill his uncle is more honorable and respectable than him killing his own family.
I mean the game devs did confirm that sparing was the canon ending
EthanHolman2021 _ wait they did? When and where? If so I’m incredibly happy about that.
Gotham Savior Adding to that, in the game we see that Jin is tramautized after letting his father die. Sparing Shimura felt way more in line with Jin’s character because he would never resort to killing his own family, especially after his father’s death which he blames himself for.
The ending is such a cool spin on the " I fight because I choose to, You fight because you were forced to."
At first I thought he was just admiring how badass looking he is! 😆
I love jin and his uncle, they are so realistic and lovable
Daisuke: “I ghost him.”
Love it
WE CAN'T DENY WHAT OUR LORD SAKAI SAID. HAIL, THE GHOST!!!!
That was an honorable choice you made. Awesome acting in the game by you, job well done you did.
Just epic ending Jin the Ghost amazing Masterpiece congrat for your inspiration Daisuke
By far the hardest choice I have ever had to make in a video game. This should get GOTY in my opinion.
After finishing story, while collecting the last few things I had missed I fast traveled to a town. Caught a conversation between two ladies, one describing how she saw Shimura returning to his castle bloody and half dead or whatever(I spared him) but she was angry at The Ghost for doing it. The other was in defense of The Ghost because of how he’d saved the island and, this line stuck out in particular, “is building a huge army to go to the mainland and defeat the Mongol Army and their Kahn.”
That, sounds like our sequel.
Thank you and congrats on being such an incredible part of such a magnificent game!
Nice man loved your character hope u are staying safe Jin Sakai or The Ghost
Daisuke...you are truly the Ghost.
I love that both choices make sense and are satisfying conclusions to the characters involved, whatever you chose, you felt closure for an amazing story
Just finished the game and went straight to youtube. Just finished the game. Killing him was the best option. When Jin said you would be remembered as my father and then unc said thank my son and find me in another life my heart erupted in tears 😢😢 ♾️/10 game
This same thing happened to me. I was going to kill him all along but I ended up sparing him at the last minute. It just didn't seem like Jin /wanted/ to kill him (to the point of deliberately missing his vitals during the last strike). His uncle was the only family he had left and he never wavered in caring about him throughout the game so I couldn't really see him doing it despite everything. I really like how fitting the 'I have no honor' line is for the decision (fully taking on the role of the Ghost over being an honorable Samurai). Whether Shimura faces consequences from the Shogun later or not, I personally think sparing him works thematically with the other big character Tales in the game. Yuna, Ishikawa, Masako, and Norio have all done morally gray things and endured loss as a result of the war and they just have to find a way to live with it. And the same goes for Shimura, for however long that lasts.
Even if you spare him, he still dies. One of the npcs asks him about Lord Shimura and Jin replies that he has passed away.
Otherwise I think that both choices were something that Jin would do. Since he cares so much about his uncle fulfilling his last wish is the least he can do for him.Also as someone who chose to spare ,I wish I could have killed him since the other skin looks way better.
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Jin actually lies in that interaction, as in the epilogue Jin and Yuna talk about whether Lord Shimura would keep hunting Jin or not. Shimura was spared by the Shougun, apparently. But his punishment of having to kill Jin when given the chance still stands.
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Sparing him is also the more probable thing, as it’s the canon ending.
@@IvanNikolov-o7s BRUH he lived in the epilogue XD TF you talking about?
Didn't expect this sad ending even after sparring his uncle.
Jin did what needed to be done but could also understand his uncles point of view.
Still a brilliant game. Replay is just as exciting as the first playthrough
Great game A+ I hope we can get more amazing games like this in my lifetime
Lord Shimura : The ghost... will be hunted for the rest of his day
Jin Sakai : *seen*
I am very sad to see the ending of this game, I actually hope that this game will never end because I still want to see Jin Sakai and Yuna, they are my favorite characters when watching the gameplay of this game 🥺🥺
The real Jin? OMG I platinum your game man, it’s freaking awesome
I've seen both endings, and sparing him felt like the right ending to me. As Jin became the ghost, he abandoned the samurai code and slowly lost his 'honor'. However he formed his own code of honor by doing what he felt was right, even if some of the methods were frowned upon. If he had given his uncle an honourable warriors death, he would have been reverting back to a past he had long left behind. The ghost follows his own code, not the samurai. This is when jin truly became the ghost
Funny because when you kill, you get a white armor die which that color represents death, hence ghost. Sparing gives you red, and represents life.
IMO the kill ending is fitting for feudal Japan ethics and sparing is typical for westerners.
I think Jin killing his Uncle was for his memory. For his Uncle to have his last moments be happy ones with his son, and not having to be hunting him down for the rest of his life. Also I think I took as Jin would make the exception to do this one final honorary act. An exception he would only make for his uncles memory.
given we would have to be Japanese to fully understand all this, try to imagine shimura having to report to the shogun that he lost his duel with the ghost, after being commanded to take his head as part of his punishment, and that he’s also been spared… which I imagine also translates to shimura being dishonored in the face of the shogun. Who could then either disband clan shimura also, ordering to take his life or stripping him of land and samurai rank reducing him to a ronin.
if there is a sequel, it could start from the disgrace of lord shimura, who would either die by suicide or join jin as a ronin. I don’t see him having the power to keep hunting him down. Maybe a Japanese could answer this better.
Was an awesome game, I also spared him. The ghost is a protector not an executioner. And the second you kill your family, your soul is lost. But that should also be seen through the lenses of Japanese culture, so I can’t judge.
Me: sobbing during the last scene with Shimura
Daisuke: :)
I love the fact that this game allows people to make these decisions in the perspective of the character or yourself (for some it's just entertainment, for others it can be a moment of self reflection).
I understand what PewDiePie said about honoring him with a warrior's death, as an act that would be done by the son that Lord Shimura would of wanted (and I initially wanted to do that).
However, it was another UA-camr that spoke about the journey Jin took through the game as he became further and further away from the Samurai, and took up the mantel of the Ghost.
I felt that even though sparing him would put Lord Shimura to shame, and heck he might commit Seppuku for it, killing Lord Shimura would not be something the Ghost would of done.
I really feel like it draws some parallels with The Dark Knight, and Code Geass.
Whether u choose to kill or to spare, Lord Shimura will have to already be dead for the sequel, to prevent confusion for players who choose to kill him.
He would commit seppuku for his failure anyway
Debu Jalanan i disagree just make one ending canon
I mean, the inverse would also be true.
@@NirodimosNeedAKing I doubt it, he's too much of an asset to the shogun. If anything he'll just be ordered to hunt Jin to reclaim his honour in the sequel which would have interesting implications for both characters.
@@UmbraXCVII Assets are expendable. Any Shogun in history would have him executed (if they didn't commit seppuku), and then put in another governor (an incompetent, yet loyal relative likely).
Such an amazing game this should definitely win game of the year, best soundtrack, best game play, best graphics and visuals, just amazing and the acting is superb.
Beautiful ending, very emotional and even lord shimura was crying his eyes out. Now I’m going to play it again on hard level
dammit sucker punch, the choice was already hard enough without having to confirm it
Daisuke was like "I have no HONOR, because I'm the Ghost, BITCH!" 😂
As someone who has finished the game and made my own choice at the end that made sense both to me and what I felt made sense to the character... I came to this video to gain insight from the man himself. Regardless what choice he made, I was going to learn something. And I did. I learned I made the right choice, because it was his choice too. Great video.
I didn’t kill my uncle because I didn’t want to get a “kinslayer” trait. #CK2
-30 to general opinion, and no matter how many vassals you replace, people will still hate you
I did cause I wanted the white armor
Nice lol hahahaha
I've just finished the game, one of the best game i've ever played, if not The...
You played the character perfectly.
This game is so life changingly beautiful 😭
I cried like I was in the movies at the end of this
The beauty of this was the power of love. Jin went thru everything he did to save his uncle who he loved like father 🇯🇵
Imagine if the choice was kill Yuna or Kill Uncle... (Or turn Yuna in for Judgement)
Now THAT would be the moment for a harakiri option!
Yuna is he one who saved Jin and she was the beginning of his journey to the Ghost. If he never met her, I don’t think he would have become the Ghost Of Tsushima.
@@anessamer Its just a what if scenario but imagine if we as players literally had to choose at the end of act 2 whether to kill Yuna and "renouce the ghost" as his uncle said or to kill/fight his uncle there and then, similar to Sekiro where you either choose to obey or break the iron code. Depending on the choice made would majorly impact the rest of the game from there. Saving Yuna I see the story playing out the same except for Jin writing the letter and him fighting uncle after killing Khan. Killing Yuna would see Jin becoming Shimuras son and they take on the mongols the honorable way as his uncle wanted but the fact that he killed Yuna would haunt Jin throughout the rest of his life.
M Dee eSs that would be an extremely tough decision.
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This game so beautiful,i never see,game like this,ITS my favorite game🤩
Because he's the hero we deserves, but not the one we need right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Ghost of Tsushima... (Fin!)
@Jin Sakai, Amazing performance! You killed it in this game. Congrats on the success of the game and I hope there's a sequel and we get to see more of you.
I spared him too. Sparing him to me would represent the ghost better because you’re breaking tradition and defying honor.
NOTICE ME LORD SAKAI !!!
It's Crazy seeing his Reaction Genuinely to the Ending. I let him Live. Second time I won't but I Played as what I would do.
honor me with warrior death
YTBER : ask the live chat
ME : Save game data and choose an ending to let Lord Shimura live
because I want to hear that epic song
I knew it! And now Lord shimura has been ghosted too, like the rest of the allies, which is good for the sequel xdd
No sequel
Mehmetcan Øzkan dude I think with how this game did really good we are getting a sequel
@@mehmetcanzkan1687 historically they did go in again tho
@@Heyya124 Yeah probably on ps5
I would bet my fuckin’ left arm there will be a sequel to this masterpiece. From a commercial standpoint it is an absolute no brainer.
Really interesting to see your take on this. It makes the discourse around the choice offered in the game’s ending so much more fascinating!
For me I think i'll choose spare.
Lord Shimura's honor is a code and he's a slave to it. Jin's honor is a heart.
If Jin kill Lord Shimura. He will see that at least. Jin still has a bit of Honor in him but that honor is a lies. Jin is not a slave to it (The Code)
Spare him. The Shogun might let him live or order him to seppuku. But before that. He can take his time thinking about Jin's honor. Hope he finally open his eyes and see Jin's Honor. Then die knowing that his son sacrificed himself, Protecting people's lives.
What does it matter if the honor is a lie tho? Jin gave him a warriors death and in shimura's eyes he redeemed himself by doing so. Imo parring him is selfish, you are condemning an old man to live alone as an embarrassing failure for the rest of his life tainting his honor.
Lol, the moment his uncle decide to take him as a son, I knew the story gonna go somewhere that the player gonna broke his heart and disappoint him.
Wow I made the same final decision as the real Lord Jin Sakai.. the ghost, I feel honoured
There’s no “real” ending, both of these endings do justice to provide the players choice. Killing lord shimura to finally honor your uncles last wish or to lose that honor in order to fully embrace the way of the Legendary Ghost.
I agree. But either way you are the Ghost.
His face is so blank. Lord Sakai truly has mastered his emotions.
Jin, I really enjoyed playing this game for the first time through, just beat it last night , and I still am going on to do the dlc, what an amazing game , and an amazing job done on your part and end , and all the rest of the cast , and creators/director/production etc! God bless you all! 💙🙏🏻🙌🏻 ty for also sharing your experience here with the world!
Daisuke Tsuji makes the hard choices haha! 🙌🏻🥰
I spared Lord Shimuru, for me this made the most sense. Jin's choices throughout the game led him to for forgo the ways of the Samurai and stop being a slave to the honour system in order to seek the greater good and most importantly to put the people of Tsushima first. Jin and his Uncle have a conversation about his Uncles heir on the way to this battle where it was discussed that there is still time for him to marry and have an heir. Killing him him leaves the island without a ruler which ultimately leaves it vulnerable, saving Uncle allows rule and order to be reestablished after the conflict of the invasion which is much needed and the promises of an heir can help maintain that in the future.
Yeah but the uncle is just going to commit a sacrificial not-live since he failed the shogun
Bruh, he did it on his first attempt, it took me like six.
He truly is Jin Sakai. The one attempt proves it
When I fought Lord Shimura for the 1st time , I heard the words. "When we fight, we face our enemies head on."
So happy that the actor that played Jin made the same choice I did. Awesome meta video haha. also I had a similar experience. After they killed Kage, the best virtual horse of all time, I was so mad I was positive I was going to kill Shimura but in that moment I couldn’t betray my own values for a code that I’d been breaking the entire game.