Jin: Saves hundreds of lives by acting as a warrior, spy, diplomat or assassin as the situation demands. Shimura: Sends hundreds to their deaths as true samurai, just like the Mongols know they will, thus sending them to die for nothing. Yeah, I think we all know who the people will remember more.
Jin is actually the most historically accurate samurai. He has honor, sure but the goal is always the number one priority. A samurai will kill you any way he can. They will (and did) use guns and to the extent that ninjas (or shinobi) existed, all of them were samurai or under samurai leadership.
@@vinslungur Shimura might lived on island too long, and doesn't know how the mainland Japan works. That Or the Shogunate was super traditionalists... But that's unlikely.
"War brings out who we truly are." Shimura: proud Jin: conflicted Yuna: selfless Khan: insecure Taka: brave Ishikawa: remorseful Masako: hopeless Norio: vengeful Kenji: honest The many revelations we have along the way.
@@TheNewFlutist I mean yeah he was insecure but he was mostly driven by desperation to protect his men however he needed. He betrayed Jin because he was desperate for food for his men and preferred working under the khan than being sent to his death by shimura which actually admits is true.
Jin’s story and struggle with “honour” was great. I thought I’d be killed in the end. But it was good to see Jin survives. I went for the kill option. I didn’t want him to die, but he asked for it, so… Great game!
I think sparing him is the right choice. Sure it’s not honorable, but honor was thrown out the window when Jin stabbed that mongol in the back. There was no returning from that. “You have no honor!” “And you are a slave to it!”
I guess lord shimura's view of honor is similar to what kratos told atreus in god of war when he said discipline and self control is what makes a true warrior but jin does something what kratos also said wars are won by those who are willing to sacrifice everything. I did not expect over 300 likes on this thank yall.
I recently completed the game, and had a similar view towards lord Shimura’s take on honor. Also I think the whole poisoning the enemy was a slippery slope for jin, he just could have surveyed the castle so that the samurais can plan better.
When I was given the choice: I chose to spare Shimura. Because he was bound by tradition and unchanging in his ways which was a rationale that would've cost more lives in the fight against the Mongols. Granting his request would just be reaffirming such a belief, which Jin is technically rejecting by still choosing to be the Ghost.(Honor died on the beach) But you can also look at both endings in another way: Choosing to Spare is basically the Hollywood Movie Ending. You get told that you'll reject that choice and never know peace, but you proudly put your mask back on and walk off into the sunset: leaving the past, and last connection to it(Shimura), behind and walking into future. And yet, your choosing to be who are you, fully aware of the consequences, yet still embracing your ideals. Honoring Shimura's last wish is probably the most Akira Kurosawaesque choice though, especially considering the closeness and bond both Jin and Lord Shimura had. Even when Lord Shimura was technically against Jin at the end, he was still considered family.(In the next life, find me.) Their relationship as Mentor and Disciple was key and it helped Jin grow into the warrior he is, despite the means he took to beat the Mongols. It probably also reflects the Mono no Aware concept the most, even if the entire game felt like that once the journey is all over. In the end, neither choice is good or bad. And the game allows you to pick what you believe in.
Shogun: You liberated Tsushima of the Mongol invaders who were slaughtering and enslaving civilians, but you're a traitor to the samurai and you're under arrest. Jin: Why? Shogun: you killed them without looking them in the eye. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️😑
Yeah, I don't think samurai would have cared at all about assassinating barbarian invaders through treachery. Honor was something owed to other samurai, not to barbarians or peasants...you can see how samurai and the later Imperial Japanese who saw themselves as a return to classic Japanese values treated Koreans and Chinese.
The Shogun only had one fear, that the peasants would rally behind this "Ghost" figure that defied his "rightful" ruler. The honor talk basically masks the fact that the Ghost was more effective than any measure the Shogun´s men (Shimura) took.
Fun fact: in Act 2, you can complete the three main objectives in any order you want; I prefer this order: 1. Find Umugi Cove, talk to Goro, & get his map. 2. Head north to Omi Village & collect the Sakai armor & your blowgun. 3. Find Lord Shimura at his hunting camp while wearing the Sakai armor. He will commend you for it before you proceed with delivering Goro’s message. 4. Complete Yuna’s character tales. 5. Head to the Yarikawa survivor camp & ride to the stronghold with Yuna & Taka. You will mention the events of Omi & Otsuna along the way.
love the video keep up the great work. the thing that I love about the endings were that if you kill Shimura, in a way you still believe in the Bushido code and honor. "the Ghost" was a necessary "evil" in order to save Tsushima. you don't HAVE to kill Shimura, you don't HAVE to listen to the code or the Shogun but you did. YOU killed your uncle cause you believe in the a "warrior death" in the whole honor code. But if you spare him your essentially saying honor, shogun, the samurai code holds no value to YOUR own code. (which in Jin case was to save people.) and if that mean that they will brand you a traitor, a man with no honor, the Ghost. then screw it you are The Ghost, hence Jin putting on the ghost mask and walking away from his uncle, metaphorically walking away from tradition, or at least bending it. A really cool detail about the ending is if you go to either kill or spare the camera shows the characters whole, like KILL shows only Shimura and SPARE shows only Jin, it is like the game trying to say are you a Samurai or are you The Ghost?
@@TheNewFlutist while that isn’t the focus i did think about that during this scene. but their relationship beyond samurai, warriors and honor, as simply family, definitely had a part to play.
If there is a sequel, I think they should follow the Spare Ending. It should also take place during the Second Mongol Invasion Of Japan. Lord Shimura's character could takes from cues from Inspector Javert from Les Misérables in that he ultimately finds himself questioning the "honorable" ways he's followed all his life. Over the course of the story, Shimura sees just how corrupt many of the other Samurai are when they often disregard their own traditional values for personal gain, and slowly, but surely, he begins to wonder if maybe Jin was right, that he IS nothing but a slave to "honor". In the end, Shimura is forced into a moral dilemma similar to Inspector Javert in Les Misérables that compromises his moral standing. Either he can do the "honorable", but morally wrong thing, or the "dishonorable", but truly right thing. In the end, Shimura, like Inspector Javert, chooses to kill himself in order to both do the right thing, AND keep his honor.
You know that since Shimura failed to bring the Head of Jin, amongst his other failures, he most likely is going to be executed by order of the Shogun so the spare ending is pretty much the same as the kill ending
@@RiinzL No? It doesn’t work like that. And besides, Lord Shimura was inspiring and trusted leader so having one of their best leader executed is not common sense. Even if he was defeated but survived, he would not get executed.
@@wattozzchimera1956 Yes he would, Bushido is tough, he failed his nephew and he failed his Shogun, of course he's gonna get punished for that. You really think the Shogun is gonna appreciate the fact that the Ghost is still alive and defeated Shimura? Even if the Shogun doesn't execute Shimura, I'm pretty sure Shimura will Seppuku himself seeing as how ashamed he is if you let him live. It's the only way he can retain his honor
Shimura would not survive a spare ending. He'd be expected to kill himself for failing to kill Jin. If he didn't, he'd have no honour, and the Shogun would have him killed regardless.
Such an amazing game, it's been the best game I've played in a long time. For the ending I decided to kill, and I'm glad I did because the white armor looks very good.... I highly recommend this game, amazing story, graphics, combat.. Pretty much everything 10/10 Game, In my opinion it was absolutely wayyy better than the last of us 2
love the fact jin has the ruthlessness trait and flexibility of his father, ruthlessness from the ghost stance and slaughtering the leaders and is flexible to the bushido code.
Kotun Khan was right about. He knew the only way for the Samurai to win was to abandoned their code and honor. Conversely, the Khan studying of the Samurai code meant they would happily die before committing dishonorable conduct making Kotun the perfect foil. Jin, although being the anomaly, abandoning his honor really didn't shake Kotun because he knew the Shogun would never let Jin live regardless of how many Mongols he kill. Every success Jin has is a stark failure of the Shogun thus making Jin a threat not only to the Shogun but to Samurai culture as well. Komodo Beach was proof of the failures of Samurai code and culture and if the Shogun were to save face and retain power Jin had to be labeled persona non grata. Of course this could've been avoided had Shimura ordered the Ghost to be a secret and an urban legend.
I think it’s kinda cool, how they kinda specify that the specific codes of behavior and action are tied to shimura and Sakai, the codes of the samurai were not an overly universal thing irl.. some clans had an entirely different idea of what honor was. So I think it’s pretty cool.
Jin is actually the most historically accurate samurai. He has honor, sure but the goal is always the number one priority. A samurai will kill you any way he can. They will (and did) use guns and to the extent that ninjas (or shinobi) existed, all of them were samurai or under samurai leadership.
@@dakotabynum5137 in the 16th century actually. They also used them in the unification of Japan. They still carried their Katana for last resort measures and still wore traditional armour in the form of Karuta, Kusazuri and Kabuto . But firearms became a staple of samurai combat even adopting a Japanese name of Tanegashima which was purchased from Portuguese traders. The Japanese copied the design, with help from a Portuguese gunsmith. If you want to do your own research where samurai used Tanegashima, then look up the battles of Anegawa and Nagashino. They also used them in the 1592 invasion of Korea with great effect in early points in the war, taking Seoul in 18 days with a quarter of their army being gunners. It wasn't until the Edo period which came with almost 250 years of peace, did guns become used less and the sword became the desired weapon to deal with small scale combat, but guns were still used by everyone, from samurai hunting and target practice, to peasant farmers to protect their property.
@Gingy I dunno if this is just my game or if Sucker Punch intended it, but when I did the kill ending, over time I noticed that almost every time I fast travel the weather changes to stormy. I'm planning on replaying for the alternate ending to confirm if the sunny weather effect occurs every fast travel. That could be another post game change based on player choice like the different location and ghost armor dye.
@@kevinwebster7868 I've heard all the time about how in the game your choices and playstyle effect the weather but I'm starting to think they couldn't implement that well enough or if they even did.
Ok after some research I found that the high occurrence of stormy weather was intended for the third act onward as it represents Jin's transformation into the ghost regardless of the ending you pick. People are starting to get a little annoyed by it since it can get old fast. I like the stormy weather effect to a degree but it doesn't hurt to change it up especially when sunny weather brings out the most color. Felt kinda pointless to have a different scene by ending with different weather if it keeps getting stormy regardless. Why have a sunny weather ending when you fully embrace the ghost but have that canonical weather when you do the "bad" ending? Seems off to me. I figured they would make it more sunny on one ending and the stormy effect on the other. Hopefully this is reworked in the next patch which should DEFINITELY include new game plus. I wonder if Sucker Punch could improve the functionality of the flute where when you change to a certain weather setting it stays that way until you change it later. That would be perfect for immersion setups that aren't interrupted by scripted environment changes.
While playing i found that jins friends kinda became his family over time as you see how much they al care for eachother and even suport jin as the ghost
I really want to know what happens to lord shimura after u spare him. I went to his castle but the secret way was blocked out i could find any other way to get in. If anyone knows pls tell me.
killing Shimura makes sense, the Shogun damands a head Jin or Shimura, Shimura really doesn't want to kill Jin as if you kill him he treats Jin as his son officially and tells him to find him in their nxt life, meaning thats the choice he wants and is ready to accept it. if you leave him means he fails and the Shogun will discharged him as a samurai, strip him of his land and titles and either be killed publicly or seppuku, him dying by jins hands means he didnt kill his adapted son and his legacy is preserved and the Shogun will most likely give him a heroic death, Jin is considered a traitor both ways, so..
But we have no proof whatsoever that the Shogun will order him to kill himself. Yes it was a thing but it’s not like samurai were ordered to do it all the time. Remember these are highly trained warriors that you can’t just replace. I personally think killing him is probably the more emotional ending though. Also I think one of the actors said the surviving ending was cannon but I could be wrong on that. Japan in real life however was aware the Mongols would be coming back. Either way I expect them to just cut him out of any sequel, problem solved lol
Thanks for the story. Enjoyable to listen to while doing some coding work. As interesting as the game seems, these types of open-world games have never really been my style. So it's nice to just know the story without having to slog through it myself.
Been playing for about a week and still on act one 😂 just love exploring and sight seeing, this game is just gorgeous and one of the best put together games if ever played I hope this will not be the last in this series as it is absolutely one of the best games overall I’ve played. Top notch bow to sucker punch
When there Is evil In this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?
@@eliascervantes9109 GAME:YEAH RIGHT BUDDY TRY FREEING SHIMURA ON LETHAL LETS SEE HOW HONORABLE YOU ARE ME:GAME ON MFS Me crying in a corner waiting for npc to kill mongol: anyone got a kunai pwesse
This is a nice video although at the start "Bushido" was mentioned and I do have a problem with that, in the video and actual game, because during the existence of the samurai there was no such thing as "Bushido". there were a set of values that samurai followed and some are what we associate Bushido but the values were general ideas on how a samurai should live and behave and they sometimes varied from each region. "Bushido" only came about at the start of the 1900s when a Japanese man wrote a book about "Bushido". The book was not well received in Japan but was a hit in other countries like the USA. But this video is really good at telling the story of the game.
It might be small detail, but one thing I noticed was how the first time he scolded Jin after being saved, Lord Shimura was way more understanding as to why he used dishonorable tactics and almost appreciative of it (considering it was to save his life lol)
Jin is a virtue in bushido where its supposed to cover compassion. Jin was just over compassionate, he didnt betray his code, he held it up to the best he could.
Uh not exactly, If we went the ac route, is what happen if an assassin brotherhood need to wage an open war with the templar. No sneak stuff just open war
Also although samurai are about honnor there not all about good doing what ever is necessary to keep people safe is a much better code then being a slave to honnor
Quick correction. Yuriko is not a house servant, she is one of Kazumasa’s consorts. She is samurai as well, easily identified by the fact that she wears armor under her kimono.
Great analysis, such a great story. I chose the white armor :*(. I honestly felt for them in that moment. Powerful story telling. I also did all the side quests for the main characters. Only a small handful of “?” I didn’t do. However, I ended the game with Jin climbing to a tall snowy mountain over looking the sea . I position him facing the sea with and the sun setting in the backyard. Maybe I’ll take a screenshot as it was a beautiful imagery. Ps. I wonder, if there is a second game, will the last choice at the end (red or white armor) will that decision affect the story?
You choose to spare Shimura you are continuing the bloodline ( Red Armour) in Tsushima. You kill him you end a lineage of Warriors who protected Tsushima. Sakai and Shimura name become a Ghost (White Armour).
I like the both endings. In the honorable option this is a drama of the man who stayed true to his code but it was too late for him. In the dishonorable ending he stayed loyal to his new himself, the Ghost, and still putting lives over the traditions and fully devoting himself to be the legend people hope him to be.
Its too bad the game didnt have an option to NOT betray the code. But I guess thats the intention of the story. Would love to see that storyline as well. Im only part the way through so I cant wait to get to the end.
I saved the game before doing the deed against shimura. So got the both ending but imo sparing him was jin or ghost true to his character. He left his samurai self broke the code and promise. At the end the honor mean nothing to jin, and he did promise ishikawa that he won't consumed by ghost. Truly this game is a masterpiece
I really do like this story, but when it comes to the ending, I would personally choose the kill option for a few reasons. 1. Sparing him from the Shogun. The point made in this video was that the Shogun punished Lord Shimura to kill his own nephew. This basically states that the Shogun doesn't give a shit about the fact that Jin is his own nephew and they're only concerned about reputation and status, which is extremely corrupt. What Jin said to Lord Shimura before he goes off to poison the Mongols, that he brought them hope and Lord Shimura did nothing, this is true to an extent. Jin sacrificed his principles for the sake of his people, he turned against his bushido code for the sake of his people. That is more honorable than anything, and in times of war, people get desperate. In times of war, sometimes you have to do things you aren't proud of, but the fact that Jin was willing to go however far he had to for the sake of his people is extremely admirable, and thus honorable. 2. The concept of honor. Honor in Ghost of Tsushima, and what it was categorized in Bushido, defined that it would respect and hold true to one's familial representation and hold true to the virtues of one's moral integrity and family legacy. This was the driving force behind many samurai back in Feudal Japan, I may sound like I am some kind of history expert but I am not. I'm just going off of what the game has stated and my own knowledge of the subject. Anyway, people during this time were deeply focused on holding their family's name in good graces, holding it in respect and to be admired. A part of this ideology is something that people would be inspired to work towards. To have a good reputation and to be respected is something that many people want. On the other hand, this ideology about preserving the image of your family, along with your reputation is very toxic. The idea that you would have to kill people just because they said something bad about your family is really fucked up. Even worse if one of your own family members decides to ruin your family's reputation. Honor in its base form is to show respect and admiration towards someone. The way that samurai used this was to their ancestors. But honor can be whatever the person wants it to be. The Shogun don't accept this view and they want to keep things as the way their vision and their vision alone.
That's basically all I would need to say about my view of the endings. Jin showing that he has honor isn't a bad thing. Honor can be whatever the person makes it out to be, and additionally, though it isn't the best option, killing Shimura technically spares him from the Shogun. Not exactly embarrassment, but helping his uncle not have to face the Shogun alone. Lastly, this act lets Shimura accept Jin as his son again, so there is still that compassion within the next life. But this is my view on things, and if you have critiques than I am more than happy to hear them. Take care and have a good day.
I know I’m kind of late to the party but it would be nice if u could the characters on the iki island expansion character especially Jin’s Biological father
You know, I hate it when people pronounce Japanese with an English/American English accent, because I was slammed face first into a brick wall when you said "Castle Canada", only to realize it's Castle Kaneda. xD Other than that minor, petty niggle, this was a fun video. Thanks for it! This was one of my favorite games ever, and am still mad it didn't win game of the year.
I know its the main plot of the game but I WISH we could choose to either become a samurai or the ghost, i feel like the "jin becoming the ghost and betraying lord shimura" moment was a bit too forced and it would have been so interesting to see jin become lord shimura' son.
There is no honor in sending people to die ,in my opinion honor is doing the right thing even if people think of you as a monster like killing a simple person to save many
Do y’all think this would be a good sequel A samurai is shipped overseas with 3 other samurai to hunt the ghost the samurai we play as underestimates the ghost and try’s to search for him by his self when he encounters the ghost the samurai we would play as challenges Jin to a duel but the samurai will almost be killed by jin when the samurai passes out from blood lost he wakes up to see yuna a women who knows the ghost and a friend she didn’t see in a decade they ride together to find the ghost killing enemies on the way when the samurai finds him again he learns that him might have been doing good by having no honor the samurai starts to team up with jin
I am wondering if in the second game, are you going to make rebellion and fight the shogun ... making it very fitting first saving his ass and then wiping him from the history books
All I'm saying is that it's Yuna's fault for what happened to Jin by the end. If it weren't for her basicly calling him a wimp for not wanting to brake his code and pushing him to brake it, he would have still been a Samurai, the Shogun wouldn't have had his Uncle to kill him, and everything would have been fine. But then again, it wouldn't have been been a good story of things just went well for Jin. At first I questioned why there wasn't any choices that were inpactful, then as I thought about it, it makes sense.
Not only is that a weak narrative but the game would just end with them all dying when they repaired the bridge and got massacred trying to breach the inner wall of the fort. Saying she’s a fault seems off when she’s pushing him to do the right thing. The code the shogun enforce is a luxury only the upper class can afford. In the end Breaking his code is the only thing that saves Japan from being completely dominated and was the right thing to do.
The video game was awesome through-and-through one of the best I've seen and played thus far, (next to red dead redemption 2) keep up the good work sucker punch; As far as the character of jin sakai goes I do not consider him a hypocrite at all, He continued to show himself to be the most honorable, more so than his uncle due to the fact that he valued innocent lives more than the need to appease the rigid dogma of the bushido code for the sake of his uncle and the shogun, they were facing an enemy that was using their code against them to take over the land and the people and jin saw no other choice but to break away from that in order for his people and his country to survive the murderous onslaught of the mongols, Thus it forced him down a path that he was Initially resistant to but ultimately embraced for the good of everyone Which in turn has made him a beloved living legend among his people as well as tsushima's very own japanese zorro, He may have sacrificed and lost everything because of the harsh choices he was forced to make, but he also gained a whole lot more from his willingness to sacrifice and lose everything for the greater good of all and he for a video game character has my utmost respect for that. He uncle however is the villain of his own story because he was willing to sacrifice an innocent woman like jin's friend yuna to the shogun and blame the poisoning of the mongols on her; something a man of honor should never do, so I personally don't care about lord shimura's pain, he deserves it and what better way for him to suffer more than to be spared and live with the humiliation of having his own nephew and "son" go on to become a better person and greater legend than him, the shogun and the entire class of the samurai. LONG LIVE THE GHOST!!! 🔥💯😉😁👍
Shimura: "You have no honor!"
Jin: "And you are a slave to it!"
Perfect summary of the plot
Jin: Saves hundreds of lives by acting as a warrior, spy, diplomat or assassin as the situation demands.
Shimura: Sends hundreds to their deaths as true samurai, just like the Mongols know they will, thus sending them to die for nothing.
Yeah, I think we all know who the people will remember more.
Jin is actually the most historically accurate samurai. He has honor, sure but the goal is always the number one priority. A samurai will kill you any way he can. They will (and did) use guns and to the extent that ninjas (or shinobi) existed, all of them were samurai or under samurai leadership.
@@vinslungur Shimura might lived on island too long, and doesn't know how the mainland Japan works. That Or the Shogunate was super traditionalists... But that's unlikely.
@@masterofthefirstraceoftheu8608 actually during that time period of Tsushima invasion is when the Shogunate starting to losing power as well
I’m pretty sure this game was during the early stages of samurai so honour is not truly defined yet
"War brings out who we truly are."
Shimura: proud
Jin: conflicted
Yuna: selfless
Khan: insecure
Taka: brave
Ishikawa: remorseful
Masako: hopeless
Norio: vengeful
Kenji: honest
The many revelations we have along the way.
You forgot ryuzo: desperate
@@DavidVargas-iv4dr he may also be insecure. Also someone who takes friendship for granted but I don't know a single word that encompasses that lol
@@TheNewFlutist I mean yeah he was insecure but he was mostly driven by desperation to protect his men however he needed. He betrayed Jin because he was desperate for food for his men and preferred working under the khan than being sent to his death by shimura which actually admits is true.
Wow this is actually correct
Kenji was my favorite but he definitely wasn't honest. He kept scheming for about 2/3 of the game.
Jin’s story and struggle with “honour” was great. I thought I’d be killed in the end. But it was good to see Jin survives. I went for the kill option. I didn’t want him to die, but he asked for it, so… Great game!
@@shivamshukla7369In the game we have no honor but the uncle does.
I think sparing him is the right choice. Sure it’s not honorable, but honor was thrown out the window when Jin stabbed that mongol in the back. There was no returning from that.
“You have no honor!” “And you are a slave to it!”
No way Karl you’re a gamer! Yeah he fully asked for it
I guess lord shimura's view of honor is similar to what kratos told atreus in god of war when he said discipline and self control is what makes a true warrior but jin does something what kratos also said wars are won by those who are willing to sacrifice everything.
I did not expect over 300 likes on this thank yall.
Wow, that’s an amazing comparison!
dope
which makes an argument for both sides really. great catch
I just finished this game and the game i was previously playing was gow ragnarok. Great comparison!
I recently completed the game, and had a similar view towards lord Shimura’s take on honor. Also I think the whole poisoning the enemy was a slippery slope for jin, he just could have surveyed the castle so that the samurais can plan better.
Kenji and Taka best side characters I’ve seen in a while. Rip Taka... he was the heart of Tsushima
Gotta love norio and masako too tho!
norio is the goat
I got really annoyed with the fact that everyone turns on jin he saves the hole country and thats his repayment bit of a slap in the face
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@@calvinmaina5459 yea thanks dude I actually had no idea what to call it
@@calvinmaina5459 yeah, but he's right. If the Khan wasn't killed he would have reached the mainland.
@@calvinmaina5459 he actully saved japan because if the mongol fleet would have used their boat to go to the main island it would have been beaten
Even if you dont use ghost weapons or assassinate it still gives that ending which is a bit annoying
Again it’s amazing how this game did not get more awards including GOTY at The Game Awards
They were too busy circle jerking TLOU2.
@@SCF721 circle jerk 🤣🤣🤣.
I used to say this all the time 😂
@@jairesemccoy9779 its quite a fun word to say sometimes 🤣🤣🤣
@@SCF721 exactly
@@SCF721 Bbbbut revenge is bad...
This is beautiful. This really explained what happened in the story helped a lot as I was confused before this video.
Lmao Sarcasm
You must've not paid attention at all
When I was given the choice: I chose to spare Shimura. Because he was bound by tradition and unchanging in his ways which was a rationale that would've cost more lives in the fight against the Mongols. Granting his request would just be reaffirming such a belief, which Jin is technically rejecting by still choosing to be the Ghost.(Honor died on the beach)
But you can also look at both endings in another way: Choosing to Spare is basically the Hollywood Movie Ending. You get told that you'll reject that choice and never know peace, but you proudly put your mask back on and walk off into the sunset: leaving the past, and last connection to it(Shimura), behind and walking into future. And yet, your choosing to be who are you, fully aware of the consequences, yet still embracing your ideals.
Honoring Shimura's last wish is probably the most Akira Kurosawaesque choice though, especially considering the closeness and bond both Jin and Lord Shimura had. Even when Lord Shimura was technically against Jin at the end, he was still considered family.(In the next life, find me.) Their relationship as Mentor and Disciple was key and it helped Jin grow into the warrior he is, despite the means he took to beat the Mongols. It probably also reflects the Mono no Aware concept the most, even if the entire game felt like that once the journey is all over.
In the end, neither choice is good or bad. And the game allows you to pick what you believe in.
Most games: good ending & bad ending
Ghost of Tsushima: sad ending & *_REALLY_* sad ending
I picked the kill ending out of respect for Shimura. It was what he wanted
I spared him my heart was to heavy I looked at him as family myself lol
Shogun: You liberated Tsushima of the Mongol invaders who were slaughtering and enslaving civilians, but you're a traitor to the samurai and you're under arrest.
Jin: Why?
Shogun: you killed them without looking them in the eye.
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️😑
Yeah, I don't think samurai would have cared at all about assassinating barbarian invaders through treachery. Honor was something owed to other samurai, not to barbarians or peasants...you can see how samurai and the later Imperial Japanese who saw themselves as a return to classic Japanese values treated Koreans and Chinese.
The Shogun only had one fear, that the peasants would rally behind this "Ghost" figure that defied his "rightful" ruler.
The honor talk basically masks the fact that the Ghost was more effective than any measure the Shogun´s men (Shimura) took.
hilariously, in the historical sense, the Shogun would have gave Jin a pat on the back. Another example is when the samurai got guns, they loved them.
Fun fact: in Act 2, you can complete the three main objectives in any order you want; I prefer this order:
1. Find Umugi Cove, talk to Goro, & get his map.
2. Head north to Omi Village & collect the Sakai armor & your blowgun.
3. Find Lord Shimura at his hunting camp while wearing the Sakai armor. He will commend you for it before you proceed with delivering Goro’s message.
4. Complete Yuna’s character tales.
5. Head to the Yarikawa survivor camp & ride to the stronghold with Yuna & Taka. You will mention the events of Omi & Otsuna along the way.
love the video keep up the great work. the thing that I love about the endings were that if you kill Shimura, in a way you still believe in the Bushido code and honor. "the Ghost" was a necessary "evil" in order to save Tsushima. you don't HAVE to kill Shimura, you don't HAVE to listen to the code or the Shogun but you did. YOU killed your uncle cause you believe in the a "warrior death" in the whole honor code. But if you spare him your essentially saying honor, shogun, the samurai code holds no value to YOUR own code. (which in Jin case was to save people.) and if that mean that they will brand you a traitor, a man with no honor, the Ghost. then screw it you are The Ghost, hence Jin putting on the ghost mask and walking away from his uncle, metaphorically walking away from tradition, or at least bending it. A really cool detail about the ending is if you go to either kill or spare the camera shows the characters whole, like KILL shows only Shimura and SPARE shows only Jin, it is like the game trying to say are you a Samurai or are you The Ghost?
Neither a Samurai, nor a Ghost. Not warriors. Only 2 men. A father, and a son. Family. Their real identity.
@@TheNewFlutist while that isn’t the focus i did think about that during this scene. but their relationship beyond samurai, warriors and honor, as simply family, definitely had a part to play.
If there is a sequel, I think they should follow the Spare Ending. It should also take place during the Second Mongol Invasion Of Japan. Lord Shimura's character could takes from cues from Inspector Javert from Les Misérables in that he ultimately finds himself questioning the "honorable" ways he's followed all his life. Over the course of the story, Shimura sees just how corrupt many of the other Samurai are when they often disregard their own traditional values for personal gain, and slowly, but surely, he begins to wonder if maybe Jin was right, that he IS nothing but a slave to "honor". In the end, Shimura is forced into a moral dilemma similar to Inspector Javert in Les Misérables that compromises his moral standing. Either he can do the "honorable", but morally wrong thing, or the "dishonorable", but truly right thing. In the end, Shimura, like Inspector Javert, chooses to kill himself in order to both do the right thing, AND keep his honor.
You know that since Shimura failed to bring the Head of Jin, amongst his other failures, he most likely is going to be executed by order of the Shogun so the spare ending is pretty much the same as the kill ending
@@RiinzL No? It doesn’t work like that. And besides, Lord Shimura was inspiring and trusted leader so having one of their best leader executed is not common sense. Even if he was defeated but survived, he would not get executed.
@@wattozzchimera1956 Yes he would, Bushido is tough, he failed his nephew and he failed his Shogun, of course he's gonna get punished for that. You really think the Shogun is gonna appreciate the fact that the Ghost is still alive and defeated Shimura? Even if the Shogun doesn't execute Shimura, I'm pretty sure Shimura will Seppuku himself seeing as how ashamed he is if you let him live. It's the only way he can retain his honor
There needs to be a game done like this about the 100year war for a unified Japan.
Shimura would not survive a spare ending.
He'd be expected to kill himself for failing to kill Jin. If he didn't, he'd have no honour, and the Shogun would have him killed regardless.
Such an amazing game, it's been the best game I've played in a long time. For the ending I decided to kill, and I'm glad I did because the white armor looks very good.... I highly recommend this game, amazing story, graphics, combat.. Pretty much everything 10/10 Game, In my opinion it was absolutely wayyy better than the last of us 2
Couldn’t be more spot on 👍👍
@Aurora Blade yeah, I have no idea how it won goty
@@DavidVargas-iv4dr it's just undeserved. In my heart GOT won goty
@@DavidVargas-iv4dr But it's brave and bold. Lol
Last of us 2 was literally letting a butch lesbian kill the best character in the series. Tetris was better
love the fact jin has the ruthlessness trait and flexibility of his father, ruthlessness from the ghost stance and slaughtering the leaders and is flexible to the bushido code.
You are the best story teller..
You have my congratulations for this awesome video.
Can't wait to hear more from you.
Kotun Khan was right about. He knew the only way for the Samurai to win was to abandoned their code and honor. Conversely, the Khan studying of the Samurai code meant they would happily die before committing dishonorable conduct making Kotun the perfect foil. Jin, although being the anomaly, abandoning his honor really didn't shake Kotun because he knew the Shogun would never let Jin live regardless of how many Mongols he kill. Every success Jin has is a stark failure of the Shogun thus making Jin a threat not only to the Shogun but to Samurai culture as well. Komodo Beach was proof of the failures of Samurai code and culture and if the Shogun were to save face and retain power Jin had to be labeled persona non grata. Of course this could've been avoided had Shimura ordered the Ghost to be a secret and an urban legend.
I think it’s kinda cool, how they kinda specify that the specific codes of behavior and action are tied to shimura and Sakai, the codes of the samurai were not an overly universal thing irl.. some clans had an entirely different idea of what honor was. So I think it’s pretty cool.
Probabyl the second best game i've ever played since RDR2
Best games I've ever playerd: Rdr2, GoT, TW3, Skyrim and FF7 Crisis Core
For me, Ghost of Tsushima is much better, but I respect your opinion :)
Frrr
I feel the exact same
@@daddychill02 same here. The story of the Ghost is much more inclusive than RDR2. RDR2 has the 2nd place.
Jin is actually the most historically accurate samurai. He has honor, sure but the goal is always the number one priority. A samurai will kill you any way he can. They will (and did) use guns and to the extent that ninjas (or shinobi) existed, all of them were samurai or under samurai leadership.
Show me when they ever used a gun? They did things by a code and if they broke that code most became ronins
@@dakotabynum5137 look up the sengoku period
@@dakotabynum5137 in the 16th century actually. They also used them in the unification of Japan. They still carried their Katana for last resort measures and still wore traditional armour in the form of Karuta, Kusazuri and Kabuto . But firearms became a staple of samurai combat even adopting a Japanese name of Tanegashima which was purchased from Portuguese traders. The Japanese copied the design, with help from a Portuguese gunsmith. If you want to do your own research where samurai used Tanegashima, then look up the battles of Anegawa and Nagashino. They also used them in the 1592 invasion of Korea with great effect in early points in the war, taking Seoul in 18 days with a quarter of their army being gunners. It wasn't until the Edo period which came with almost 250 years of peace, did guns become used less and the sword became the desired weapon to deal with small scale combat, but guns were still used by everyone, from samurai hunting and target practice, to peasant farmers to protect their property.
@@dakotabynum5137 look up the battle of nagashino
@Gingy I dunno if this is just my game or if Sucker Punch intended it, but when I did the kill ending, over time I noticed that almost every time I fast travel the weather changes to stormy. I'm planning on replaying for the alternate ending to confirm if the sunny weather effect occurs every fast travel. That could be another post game change based on player choice like the different location and ghost armor dye.
Nah it’s still random. I chose to kill but when I fast travel I still get random weather.
@@kevinwebster7868 I've heard all the time about how in the game your choices and playstyle effect the weather but I'm starting to think they couldn't implement that well enough or if they even did.
Ok after some research I found that the high occurrence of stormy weather was intended for the third act onward as it represents Jin's transformation into the ghost regardless of the ending you pick. People are starting to get a little annoyed by it since it can get old fast. I like the stormy weather effect to a degree but it doesn't hurt to change it up especially when sunny weather brings out the most color.
Felt kinda pointless to have a different scene by ending with different weather if it keeps getting stormy regardless. Why have a sunny weather ending when you fully embrace the ghost but have that canonical weather when you do the "bad" ending? Seems off to me. I figured they would make it more sunny on one ending and the stormy effect on the other. Hopefully this is reworked in the next patch which should DEFINITELY include new game plus.
I wonder if Sucker Punch could improve the functionality of the flute where when you change to a certain weather setting it stays that way until you change it later. That would be perfect for immersion setups that aren't interrupted by scripted environment changes.
While playing i found that jins friends kinda became his family over time as you see how much they al care for eachother and even suport jin as the ghost
ah yes the TRUE game of the year
I really want to know what happens to lord shimura after u spare him. I went to his castle but the secret way was blocked out i could find any other way to get in. If anyone knows pls tell me.
Lol games It’s Speculated He May Die from Seppaku, a Dishonorable and Honorable Suicide Ritual
@@TheGhostProductions. *seppuku
killing Shimura makes sense, the Shogun damands a head Jin or Shimura, Shimura really doesn't want to kill Jin as if you kill him he treats Jin as his son officially and tells him to find him in their nxt life, meaning thats the choice he wants and is ready to accept it. if you leave him means he fails and the Shogun will discharged him as a samurai, strip him of his land and titles and either be killed publicly or seppuku, him dying by jins hands means he didnt kill his adapted son and his legacy is preserved and the Shogun will most likely give him a heroic death, Jin is considered a traitor both ways, so..
But we have no proof whatsoever that the Shogun will order him to kill himself. Yes it was a thing but it’s not like samurai were ordered to do it all the time. Remember these are highly trained warriors that you can’t just replace. I personally think killing him is probably the more emotional ending though. Also I think one of the actors said the surviving ending was cannon but I could be wrong on that. Japan in real life however was aware the Mongols would be coming back. Either way I expect them to just cut him out of any sequel, problem solved lol
@@stanjon7 so he alive and well
Thanks for the story. Enjoyable to listen to while doing some coding work. As interesting as the game seems, these types of open-world games have never really been my style. So it's nice to just know the story without having to slog through it myself.
Really like you branching out to other content, great content!
One of the best games I have ever played. Thank you for a great video on this story line!
Been playing for about a week and still on act one 😂 just love exploring and sight seeing, this game is just gorgeous and one of the best put together games if ever played I hope this will not be the last in this series as it is absolutely one of the best games overall I’ve played. Top notch bow to sucker punch
I love the job well done at summarizing the story unlike other youtubers
When there Is evil In this world that justice cannot defeat, would you taint your hands with evil to defeat evil? Or would you remain steadfast and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?
A very good lelouch quote
Sorry, I can't help it...
*All Hail Lelouch!*
Can you make a playlist for this content? I want to watch all your videos about ghost of Tsushima.
Fantastic video! Act 3 wasn't long enough for me but an amazing ride,well done bro!
when the khan said somewhere in act 1 ''he will become what you hate'' he was right all along or ''war brings out who we trully are''
Oh shit Gingy changing things up with content! Hell yeah m8 🔥
I’ve been fighting with honor( it’s more fun for me )I don’t do sneak attacks does this affect the the story
Do I still get called dishonorable
Fighting with honor on lethal is the best
@@eliascervantes9109 GAME:YEAH RIGHT BUDDY TRY FREEING SHIMURA ON LETHAL LETS SEE HOW HONORABLE YOU ARE
ME:GAME ON MFS
Me crying in a corner waiting for npc to kill mongol: anyone got a kunai pwesse
best game I've played since red dead redemption 2
This is a nice video although at the start "Bushido" was mentioned and I do have a problem with that, in the video and actual game, because during the existence of the samurai there was no such thing as "Bushido". there were a set of values that samurai followed and some are what we associate Bushido but the values were general ideas on how a samurai should live and behave and they sometimes varied from each region. "Bushido" only came about at the start of the 1900s when a Japanese man wrote a book about "Bushido". The book was not well received in Japan but was a hit in other countries like the USA. But this video is really good at telling the story of the game.
Shimura dies even after you spare him. It is referenced in a conversation with an NPC. So killing him should be the "True Ending."
It might be small detail, but one thing I noticed was how the first time he scolded Jin after being saved, Lord Shimura was way more understanding as to why he used dishonorable tactics and almost appreciative of it (considering it was to save his life lol)
Jin is a virtue in bushido where its supposed to cover compassion. Jin was just over compassionate, he didnt betray his code, he held it up to the best he could.
Continue the good work!
Iki Island DLC actually expanded Jin relationship with Kazumasa and it's not what you think it is and it make the ending even more tragic as a result
“Ask the dead if honor matters.
Their silence is your answer.” -Javik, Mass effect 3
That's great and lovely, wish there were games like this about the Anglo-Irish wars
This means I’m halfway through the story!? I thought I was almost done😫😫
I like how this guy explained everything clearly 😊😊😊
Jin basically invented Ninjutsu
Would it be fair to say that "Ghost of Tsushima" is basically Japanese Assassin's Creed?
Uh not exactly,
If we went the ac route, is what happen if an assassin brotherhood need to wage an open war with the templar. No sneak stuff just open war
@@peacechan4500 uh no? assassins and templars dont wage open war, thats the one thing they dont do
gameplay-wise maybeee
@@sam-fr5tc They did that in London 1866
Norio definitely had some of the best side quests
What I learned is that if you follow the rules you lose choose violence you win.
We need a Prequel about Kazumasa Sakai
Call it demon of tsushima
Then tokiasa yarikawa probably would be the main villain.
18:50 ik that slapped hurt 💀💀
Getting slapped by Shimura hurts Ig
Also although samurai are about honnor there not all about good doing what ever is necessary to keep people safe is a much better code then being a slave to honnor
"War shows how we truly are" - Khotun Khan
Thank you for this story of tsushima.
This game was amazing in so many ways. I'm really upset and disappointed that it didn't win GOTY
Quick correction. Yuriko is not a house servant, she is one of Kazumasa’s consorts. She is samurai as well, easily identified by the fact that she wears armor under her kimono.
lord shimura licks his tongue a lot.. also touches jin on shoulder a lot.... creeeepy so i killed him XD
I don't know why I laughed so hard on this lool
LOL I noticed that too. I guess in their culture they didn't hug, so that's as close as culture would allow them to get
Great analysis, such a great story. I chose the white armor :*(. I honestly felt for them in that moment. Powerful story telling. I also did all the side quests for the main characters. Only a small handful of “?” I didn’t do. However, I ended the game with Jin climbing to a tall snowy mountain over looking the sea . I position him facing the sea with and the sun setting in the backyard. Maybe I’ll take a screenshot as it was a beautiful imagery.
Ps. I wonder, if there is a second game, will the last choice at the end (red or white armor) will that decision affect the story?
Wonderful storytelling
You choose to spare Shimura you are continuing the bloodline ( Red Armour) in Tsushima. You kill him you end a lineage of Warriors who protected Tsushima. Sakai and Shimura name become a Ghost (White Armour).
I killed him back then for the white outfit
Watching this makes me want to play through this game again. I love this masterpiece!
Why do I have a feeling that this is all leading up to Jin being the first Ninja in the second game
Well the first Ninja in Tsushima, pretty sure mainland Japan had Ninjas very early on. But would be cool if Jin forms a full on Ninja Clan.
I just finished the main story and I really enjoyed this game.
Honor? Tradition? Bushido? No. Uncle shimura was just lucky i prefer the color red to white.
Great video. Subbed
I like the both endings. In the honorable option this is a drama of the man who stayed true to his code but it was too late for him.
In the dishonorable ending he stayed loyal to his new himself, the Ghost, and still putting lives over the traditions and fully devoting himself to be the legend people hope him to be.
Its too bad the game didnt have an option to NOT betray the code. But I guess thats the intention of the story. Would love to see that storyline as well. Im only part the way through so I cant wait to get to the end.
It's kinda weird but awesome that Sucker Punch, known for making games targeted towards pre-teens and teens, makes this amazing mature game.
I wonder if there is a way to get both ghost armor colors
Play through the story on a regular playthrough & choose one of the two endings, then fire up ng+ & repeat, but this time you choose the other ending
@@zsu-23-4shilka2 Or you could make two different save files and choose one ending on each.
That’s what I did.
I saved the game before doing the deed against shimura. So got the both ending but imo sparing him was jin or ghost true to his character. He left his samurai self broke the code and promise. At the end the honor mean nothing to jin, and he did promise ishikawa that he won't consumed by ghost.
Truly this game is a masterpiece
Man, forget Khotun Khan. The Shogun is the true villain of the story lol
I really do like this story, but when it comes to the ending, I would personally choose the kill option for a few reasons.
1. Sparing him from the Shogun. The point made in this video was that the Shogun punished Lord Shimura to kill his own nephew. This basically states that the Shogun doesn't give a shit about the fact that Jin is his own nephew and they're only concerned about reputation and status, which is extremely corrupt. What Jin said to Lord Shimura before he goes off to poison the Mongols, that he brought them hope and Lord Shimura did nothing, this is true to an extent. Jin sacrificed his principles for the sake of his people, he turned against his bushido code for the sake of his people. That is more honorable than anything, and in times of war, people get desperate. In times of war, sometimes you have to do things you aren't proud of, but the fact that Jin was willing to go however far he had to for the sake of his people is extremely admirable, and thus honorable.
2. The concept of honor. Honor in Ghost of Tsushima, and what it was categorized in Bushido, defined that it would respect and hold true to one's familial representation and hold true to the virtues of one's moral integrity and family legacy. This was the driving force behind many samurai back in Feudal Japan, I may sound like I am some kind of history expert but I am not. I'm just going off of what the game has stated and my own knowledge of the subject. Anyway, people during this time were deeply focused on holding their family's name in good graces, holding it in respect and to be admired. A part of this ideology is something that people would be inspired to work towards. To have a good reputation and to be respected is something that many people want. On the other hand, this ideology about preserving the image of your family, along with your reputation is very toxic. The idea that you would have to kill people just because they said something bad about your family is really fucked up. Even worse if one of your own family members decides to ruin your family's reputation. Honor in its base form is to show respect and admiration towards someone. The way that samurai used this was to their ancestors. But honor can be whatever the person wants it to be. The Shogun don't accept this view and they want to keep things as the way their vision and their vision alone.
That's basically all I would need to say about my view of the endings. Jin showing that he has honor isn't a bad thing. Honor can be whatever the person makes it out to be, and additionally, though it isn't the best option, killing Shimura technically spares him from the Shogun. Not exactly embarrassment, but helping his uncle not have to face the Shogun alone. Lastly, this act lets Shimura accept Jin as his son again, so there is still that compassion within the next life. But this is my view on things, and if you have critiques than I am more than happy to hear them. Take care and have a good day.
I got rid of my series x and switched back to PlayStation and love this game it’s a lot of fun Althou I’m only 17 hours into it
I bet the 2nd Ghost game will have jin going to the mainland helping out the shogun To have him regain his Honour
What about the second mongol invasion?
@@EM38101 kuplai: IM HERE TO AVENGE MY NEPHEW
Jin: ah shit here we go again
@@EM38101
I think he/she means before the invasion.
No he was exiled, Clan Sakai was disbanded. And the Shogun wants his head. So, as Shimura says, "The Ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days"
Why would he? Hi literally said
“I am not your son. I am the ghost.”
“I have no honour.”
He doesn’t care about them
Ghost of Tsushima is a great, underrated, well written and beautiful game.
I know I’m kind of late to the party but it would be nice if u could the characters on the iki island expansion character especially Jin’s Biological father
hands down best game i ever played...and it's by a wide margin
You know, I hate it when people pronounce Japanese with an English/American English accent, because I was slammed face first into a brick wall when you said "Castle Canada", only to realize it's Castle Kaneda. xD
Other than that minor, petty niggle, this was a fun video. Thanks for it! This was one of my favorite games ever, and am still mad it didn't win game of the year.
Shimura: Nooo you can't just play this like Dishonored on high chaos
Jin: If I could summon rats to eat the Khan I would
I know its the main plot of the game but I WISH we could choose to either become a samurai or the ghost, i feel like the "jin becoming the ghost and betraying lord shimura" moment was a bit too forced and it would have been so interesting to see jin become lord shimura' son.
I was gonna spare uncle but then I remembered what happend to Kage , rip uncle
There is no honor in sending people to die ,in my opinion honor is doing the right thing even if people think of you as a monster like killing a simple person to save many
When will you upload iki island story?
Do y’all think this would be a good sequel A samurai is shipped overseas with 3 other samurai to hunt the ghost the samurai we play as underestimates the ghost and try’s to search for him by his self when he encounters the ghost the samurai we would play as challenges Jin to a duel but the samurai will almost be killed by jin when the samurai passes out from blood lost he wakes up to see yuna a women who knows the ghost and a friend she didn’t see in a decade they ride together to find the ghost killing enemies on the way when the samurai finds him again he learns that him might have been doing good by having no honor the samurai starts to team up with jin
Greedo it turns out that there was a second Mongol invasion of Japan that took place in 1281. Maybe that is when the sequel will take place.
Great video
I am wondering if in the second game, are you going to make rebellion and fight the shogun ... making it very fitting first saving his ass and then wiping him from the history books
What happens if you lose to Lord Shimura in the final battle
You start the fight over.
i wish we can save our load out, hope they add that feature.
Enter new game+
Who here after Ghost of Yotei got announced
Best game I’ve played in years
So Jin is now like Eddie Brock/Venom.
just got a ps5 so I'm late but this game is a masterpiece 10/10
In a future DLC an added enemy should be other samurai.
straw hats?
@@fiel81 No I guess he or she meant the samurai of the Shogun, they're hunting Jin down
The final masako tale mission main enemy's are samurais
Can you not go back to the house after you leave it?
Yes
All I'm saying is that it's Yuna's fault for what happened to Jin by the end. If it weren't for her basicly calling him a wimp for not wanting to brake his code and pushing him to brake it, he would have still been a Samurai, the Shogun wouldn't have had his Uncle to kill him, and everything would have been fine. But then again, it wouldn't have been been a good story of things just went well for Jin. At first I questioned why there wasn't any choices that were inpactful, then as I thought about it, it makes sense.
Not only is that a weak narrative but the game would just end with them all dying when they repaired the bridge and got massacred trying to breach the inner wall of the fort.
Saying she’s a fault seems off when she’s pushing him to do the right thing. The code the shogun enforce is a luxury only the upper class can afford. In the end Breaking his code is the only thing that saves Japan from being completely dominated and was the right thing to do.
It wouldve been cool if u gave like a 5 mins no spoiler synapse in yhe beginning but i digress ill just warch the first few mins
Imagine saving your entire nation just to be labeled a traitor and having everyone turn against you. No wonder the Mongols wanted the Shogun to die.
Khotun Khan was a weak final boss, just saying.
The video game was awesome through-and-through one of the best I've seen and played thus far, (next to red dead redemption 2) keep up the good work sucker punch; As far as the character of jin sakai goes I do not consider him a hypocrite at all, He continued to show himself to be the most honorable, more so than his uncle due to the fact that he valued innocent lives more than the need to appease the rigid dogma of the bushido code for the sake of his uncle and the shogun, they were facing an enemy that was using their code against them to take over the land and the people and jin saw no other choice but to break away from that in order for his people and his country to survive the murderous onslaught of the mongols, Thus it forced him down a path that he was Initially resistant to but ultimately embraced for the good of everyone Which in turn has made him a beloved living legend among his people as well as tsushima's very own japanese zorro, He may have sacrificed and lost everything because of the harsh choices he was forced to make, but he also gained a whole lot more from his willingness to sacrifice and lose everything for the greater good of all and he for a video game character has my utmost respect for that.
He uncle however is the villain of his own story because he was willing to sacrifice an innocent woman like jin's friend yuna to the shogun and blame the poisoning of the mongols on her; something a man of honor should never do, so I personally don't care about lord shimura's pain, he deserves it and what better way for him to suffer more than to be spared and live with the humiliation of having his own nephew and "son" go on to become a better person and greater legend than him, the shogun and the entire class of the samurai. LONG LIVE THE GHOST!!! 🔥💯😉😁👍