How to Etch Steel Texture Plates for the Durston Agile Rolling Mills
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2018
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I just finished etching my first texture plate and it’s beautiful I’m soooo excited! I watched the video several times and by the time I was ready to try it I was so confident about the steps I wasn’t at all nervous like I’ve been when following some how to videos 🤪 I’m so excited and can’t wait to test out as soon as I clean up my etching supplies! Thanks Leslie for making this video, I’m going to check out the other ones asap!
Just did this today. Wow. Just. Wow. Leslie's instructions leave you with a great, detailed etch. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video!
Awesome video, Leslie!!! Thank you so much for sharing your vast knowledge with us all! You are such a treat to watch and learn from!
Thank u Susan!😉
Thanks Leslie, I appreciate all your great videos!
Thank you so much! I just finally tried this - been meaning to for a while. It came out beautiful! I took you passionate hinges class a couple of years ago and used the floral pattern you gave us, traced it in my Silhouette software and cut it out on a Cameo 4. Spent a LOT of time weeding that sucker! But it was worth it.
Thank you again Leslie for another amazing video!
Great video! Thank you for showing how to do this! You are the BEST!
Outstanding sun glasses! Thank you for a well presented explanation, replete with detail on the process and anecdotal information re material and sources for same!
Oh yay!! Thanks so much for sharing Leslie!
What a fantastic video. Loved it. Looking forward to having a go.
Just what I've been looking for!!....Thank you lady.
Thank you for your steel etching tutorial
Thats very kind, you ar so welcome!
Thank you so much for the video. I learned so much! I love all your videos.
Good info thanks.. I just got one of the Agile Durston mills.
Thank you so Much Leslie for sharing this information:-)
Fabulous and just what I was looking for!! Hope to get one of those Durstons in the near future. And yes please to a video using the cameo :)
Terrific video, great info--thank you very much!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Looking forward to the video on using the cameo for making decals :)
Great video Ms Villarreal; looking forward to the video on cutting the vinyl with your silhouette cameo.
archgreen1 you can learn everything u need to know from this blog www.silhouetteschoolblog.com/2014/01/cutting-vinyl-with-silhouette-101.html?m=1
Great video. I too am looking forward on making the decals.
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I’m so glad I came across your tutorials! Thank you so much .
Thank you Elaine! hope to se you in one of my ONLINE classes! lesliekailvillarreal.com
Thanks for the info in the video. I order my steel and crystals.
Super helpful video! Thanks!
love this tonight l created a couple of plates they are for my sister in England who just got a rolling mill. l recently got a cricut so been creating some from that. So excited to create these thank you so much
Wonderful!
Great video,loved all the tips.
😎 can now make my texture plates too ~ makes that a lot cheaper too ~ thank you so much ~much appreciated!!
You are such a gem ❤
Love this Leslie! Thank you for sharing!
You’re most welcome!
Great one Leslie was looking for Etch solution online and found ur Video its real used full thankx a lot...great going ...
dinesh dodia thank you😍
Hey @@LeslieKailVillarreal is it work for Satinless steel Grade 304, 316...Can you help me out with this... thank you
Is that mild steel? I’m not certain
Great info!!! Thank you & totally digging those shades!!
You are so welcome!
I love all of your videos!
thank you hun!
Thank you. You're so awesome
You are great teacher
Awesome video! Make your own design plates, wow. Really save some money and create any design you want. Ive been using card stock that I cut with my laser but my Cameo has just been sitting. I may switch back for a cleaner edge cut. Your homemade plates look better than the ones sold via Rio Grande for $50 - $80!
thank you for great info
Thank you for a very helpful video!
You're very welcome!
Leslie eres genial aprendi mucho gracias...
Gorgeous!!
Ahhhh thank u thank u thank! I did it and its so awesome!
Great video!
this etching technique is great > i am moving over from printmaking to jewellery making . Just bought and rolling mill . Still have a lino press. Since finishing fine art uni BA i have not made any new etching plates not being able to accommodate the acids . This type of etching is incredible and so very liberating using no acids. FELL INSPIRED !! Thank you
If you find a way to print a design and transfer it to your steel with a method that will hold up in the copper sulfate. Let us know. I wondered about a photo resist type transfer. The cut vinyl is the only resist I have found the holds up in the etch bath.
@@LeslieKailVillarreal I was taught to use thick wax , that went black . Painted it on the steel when it was cold and set then scratched through the wax to expose the steel plates for etching. (For etching in acid, that took days. Toxic stuff kept away from the main printmaking studio workshop). Maybe the same method of waxing could be used with copper sulfate and salt mixture? Organic and free form designs could be created with wax ?
Used also scratch into thin aluminum sheets also that did not require acid to get an etched surface to ink up . Maybe worth a try too? The aluminum sheet can be cut easily into shapes too.
I love the intercutting possibilities, with a scalpel using vinyl on the steel sheets that you have demonstrated on your video. Used to use vinyl stencils, ( i cut myself as surface pattern designs ) when i used to sand blast glass. Great stuff.
@@LeslieKailVillarreal I know you have not asked this of me , but we used to use thick black wax as a resist for etching images freehand . Using acids. 25 years ago. The traditional method of etching i was taught on my degree back then. The wax was a very affective resist that allowed freeform , dots and for scratching into the surface. If i can get hold of the wax i will try it out with the copper sulfate and salt mixture.
I am going to experiment when i get the machine, scratching into aluminum sheet and using Lino cuts too to see if i can get an impression into the metal with out using etching techniques through the rolling mill on copper and silver sheets. The Lino may work or be destroyed ? I think it may work under pressure because when used for printmaking the Lino withstands the pressure of the printing press which can be very heavy. Going to try it out anyway. Seen a link on line with someone using a lazier printer to generate images that creates etching using salt and electricity. Will try to find the link again and share.
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@@pamackroyd1825 Wax, asphalt ( sold by RIO GRANDE) and oil based paint pens , like enamel or nail polish also work great as resists
Great demo. One tip... If you start with the arm at the top it is easier to start rolling as you're pushing down instead of pulling up.
yes you are right :)
So excellent! Thank You! xoxo
Sweet mill!
Great video! I bought a durston rolling mill that came with scratches so I'm waiting for a replacement. Hopefully the replacement is in perfect condition!
really? thats too bad! where did you buy it from?
My, God, girl. This is the best, very best, video I have ever seen! You explain so well, so clear. Do you give private classes?
Yes, I do get a private classes out of my home in California. However, it would be more lucrative for you to probably look at my online classes. They are just as detailed as that video I just watched 😎
My first video with you n your fantastic, thank you so much for all your knowledge n sharing😊🙏🌈🍋lemon is for easy peezy lollol
someone asked about the steel : Cold rolled steel is essentially hot rolled steel that has had further processing. The steel is processed further in cold reduction mills, where the material is cooled (at room temperature) followed by annealing and/or tempers rolling. This process will produce steel with closer dimensional tolerances and a wider range of surface finishes. The term Cold Rolled is mistakenly used on all products, when actually the product name refers to the rolling of flat rolled sheet and coil products.
When referring to bar products, the term used is “cold finishing”, which usually consists of cold drawing and/or turning, grinding and polishing. This process results in higher yield points and has four main advantages:
Cold drawing increases the yield and tensile strengths, often eliminating further costly thermal treatments.
Turning gets rid of surface imperfections.
Grinding narrows the original size tolerance range.
Polishing improves surface finish.
All cold products provide a superior surface finish, and are superior in tolerance, concentricity, and straightness when compared to hot rolled.
Cold finished bars are typically harder to work with than hot rolled due to the increased carbon content. However, this cannot be said about cold rolled sheet and hot rolled sheet. With these two products, the cold rolled product has low carbon content and it is typically annealed, making it softer than hot rolled sheet.
Uses: Any project where tolerances, surface condition, concentricity, and straightness are the major factors.
Can this cold rolled steel be purchased at normal hardware store like lowes or home depot?
Tnx from heart
Thank you for graciously sharing this info. It is sooooo appreciated. When can we expect the cameo video :)
I agree Leslie
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I really like your videos. Your passion for making jewelry is inspiring. Only for this video I think it was way too commercial, the first 13 minutes were about Durston .It is vey helpful that you share where to buy materials.
this one was commercial based and sponsored by Durston.
A few things...
First, thanks for making this video. I found it extremely informative, especially the part about etching steel, which is actually why I watched it. It has enough information and is long enough to be its own separate video for folks who already know how to use their rolling mill.
Second, thanks for providing specifics about the brands and sources of materials to make the etched plates. It’s a huge time-saver to start with something you know already works and know where to get it.
Now a few questions I’m hoping you can answer...
Is there any reason why you went with the thicker (.125) steel rather than the next thinner gauge? I placed an order this morning to try both.
The Oracal 651 you show is “permanent.” You said it lasts longest in the etching solution, but how difficult is it to remove? Dare I try a type that isn’t “permanent”?
Finally, do you know anything about the Silhouette Portrait 2 for cutting vinyl?
Thanks again for this video. I really think it covered all the basics to start etching steel.
Maria, you're most welcome. 3mm is about the thinest i like to go with steel plates, they will last longer the thicker they are anything thinner will really curl up. Even .125 will curl a bit. Oracal 651 can be peeled off with out too much effort. It's not permanent. Vinyls stickers also work well. All the silhouette/Cricuit machines pretty much do the same thing. there are a lot of videos on you tube which will show you how to use them. Thanks
you might be interested in trying photoresist film. you can skip the
vinyl cutter and just apply the film to the prepared metal. put your
image on top, expose it to sunlight or another UV source, develop and
off you go. There is an instructable for electro etching with table
salt and a small battery. no harsh chemicals, at all! The Copper
Sulfate is available from amazon as stump remover (don't get the
potassium nitrate version :) )
Let me know after you try it if it works., A few peopel i know tried it without much luck. If you have further info please use this link to contact me so we can discuss and Thanks for posting! lesliekailvillarreal.com/contact
Hi,
I am etching a stainless steel bar with a mirror finish. Should I polish before or after? Also wanted to color the etch. Thank you.
This video is great! Thanks for sharing the knowledge of the etching process. Question about one of your texture plates... you have a plate that has individual flower/mandala like imprints. Is that commercially available? I've been looking for something similar. Thanks again!
yes i purchased that one from someone on Face book
Awesome results. Do you know if toner as a resist could also work?
Bryson_ Money1039 won’t hold up with these chemicals
Do you have a video on toner transfer? I work with aluminum. Your instructions are the absolute best.
Bryson_ Money1039 thank you! Yes I do but it’s only included with the purchase of my online classes
Leslie Kail Villarreal ok. Thank you.
Thank you for the informative video. I love the etching process. Is this the same process for etching copper or brass sheet? How about silver?
PblissE no I have another video for brass and copper look through my videos and you’ll find it
Are you recommending this method over your tutorial on brass plates? Which is better and why? Thanks for all your great tutorials !
Brass needs different solution, but you could use vinyl as a rest on any metal you are etching
You mentioned that you would show us how to make decals using the cameo. Where is that video? Thank you.
Helen Green I am waiting too lol.
Would love to see the decals also
READ THROUGH THE COMMENTS SOMONE ALREADY DID .. www.silhouetteschoolblog.com/2014/01/cutting-vinyl-with-silhouette-101.html?m=1
Nice video Leslie, thank you so much! I've seen you using ferric acid and also this solution to etch plates. Which is the cheapest way to go...?
Hey Zippy, differentiations metals require different chemicals for etching. Follow my etching vids . I show you the ones that work with each metal❤️
Thank you Leslie for sharing the info and process. Love the price of the new Durston rolling mills. |
How long does the solution last?
not sure! I just make a new batch but here is the info for preparing the solution for recycle : METHOD
Prepare a spent etching bath for recycling as follows:
1 Add hot water to the bath to re-dissolve any solid sulfate particles and stir.
2 Add a pile of metal off-cuts - zinc, steel or aluminum - to the tray
3 Leave to act overnight.
4 On the following day, drain off the liquid into a bucket and add sodium carbonate (about two or three cups per bucket).
5 Once fizzing stops the liquid can be discarded.
6 The remaining solids can now be left to dry out. Keep in labeled, sealed containers and then treat as dry waste.
and HERE Is info I found on how to revive : Refreshing a Saline Sulfate Solution
Simply make up a further batch of a copper sulfate or sodium chloride mixture in a bucket and add just enough hot water to dissolve. Add this refreshing mixture to the etching tank; stir, and the bath will be reactivated. This procedure can be repeated three or four times, and the usable life of the bath can thus be extended from several weeks to up to half a year. As time goes on more solids will build up in this long-lasting bath and can eventually affect the cleanness of the etch. Etching plates on a slatted grid that elevates them above the salt deposits can remedy this unwanted effect.
When a seemingly spent copper sulfate based etching solution self-regenerates; this is indicated by the return of the green coloring to a solution that has been left unattended for several weeks (regular stirring and the addition of hot water aids this process). The solution has regained dissolved copper ions and an electric charge, and can be used for etching once again.
Recycling, Neutralization and Disposal The process comes full circle. The very action that makes the Saline Sulfate Etch work so wonderfully as an etching bath - the depletion of copper ions - also facilitates its recycling. Concentrated copper ions are regarded as an aquatic pollutant and must not be allowed to get into waste water. As more and more copper ions react with the metal plate during etching these are converted into their inert cousins: solid copper atoms. If a sufficient quantity of metal is etched, eventually all copper ions are removed. A fully depleted bath is recognizable by two features: (i) the solution no longer corrodes metal and (ii) the solution is no longer green, it is clear.
What did you do with the copper you scraped off ? Do you use full sheets or partial when transfer to metal ?
Hi Leslie, Thank you for sharing your great video. I have been trying to figure out how to make my own designs and thanks to your tutorial, I now know. I have one question, since I never owned a fish aquarium, can you please let me know where you bought your fish tank bubbler from? I have seen a few on line but they all look different - sorry for the silly question, I just want to do this right. Thank you.
Amazon or any pet store sells them
I could use some help on this - what is the best way to dispose of everything once the process is done?
Looking for your cameo silhouette you mentioned you would make in this video?? Thanks great video!!!!
Micheals or Amazon, Silhouette Cameo
I am about to give this a try! Can you tell me what you used to do the final clean-up on your plates? Did you neutralize the solution on the steel with baking soda? Did you just use soap and water?
Hi! When you mixed your two powders and water, was the water preheated? When i etch silver, i always do it hot. Just wondering if steel was the same?
Yes it was heated in an electric tea. Kettle
Leslie, have you ever tried a more intricate etch? These seem to be large in design? Thank you as always for sharing generously your knowledge and skill.
yes the smaller the design the more weeding.
thanks for the great videos. I was wondering why you say to use cold rolled steel. Cold rolled steel has a grain were hot rolled doesn't. .Would you please tell me why the cold rolled etches better. I will try it the way you say but the hot rolled is a lot cheaper. Thank you for all you teach us.
Joe read through the most recent comment. Answered your question🥸
Leslie - this solution once used, can it be filtered (like cupric nitrate) or does it need to be "tossed".
Click herelesliekailvillarreal.com/freevideos/
download the PDF (link in under the etching vid) will teach you about recycling
Made in England , The best money can buy , and it will last a lifetime
I’m a huge fan of durston tools they really are wonderful
How do you pick your pattern? How do you know it will be a good pattern for etching. Where is a good place to look for patterns? Thanks for the great tutorials
you can design your own, you can even use mail polish an paint on a design onto your metal. You have to find your own inspiration. You can always purchase texture plates pre made too.
Thank you! Thanks for sharing. Any special coupon codes for Otto frei and what size do you recommend for the steel plates
Zineb Harvey use code LKVFUN
You can use any size that fits your rolling mill it’s important to know how wide the rollers (flat space) is. If your space is only 60 mm - order your steel to be slightly smaller than that you don’t really need any plates large than that
When you take the plate out of bath the last time ~ do you wash it with a sodium carbonate water bath?
Lisa Jarvis yes u can dip it in baking soda water but it’s really no necessary just a soapy water rinse is enough
Hey in a close up ~ I saw a 🇬🇧 on the Roller Machine ~ which means I can get it here yuppie!! Now 😂 ~just need to know where here they are!!
YES the Durston Rolling mills are the absolute BEST.. Get one thats a combo though, with the most flat space you can afford. The I have the Durston C150 but the c130 an c165 are also awesome. Otto frie has them you can use my coupon code there LKVGOLDX
they do ship to UK but Cooks on gold sells them there too so that might be cheaper for you
This etching is really nice. I'm wondering how fine of detail can you get with this process? I'd like to do something similar to roll small lines of text onto a bracelet, but I'm afraid the detail may get washed out on a small scale with a deep etch.
Thank YOU! So the deal is you can get finer detail provided you spend a lot of time "weeding your vinyl" peeling out the cuts. I have not yet found a better resist than vinyl unless you want to paint on your own design with enamel or Asphalt varnish, as printed laser ink will not hold up with this method, as the chemicals here are the best for consistent results but its a challenge to get detailed print
Next question. I was hoping to make my own plate to roll through my mill. I want to hold a 1" wide piece of softer silver or copper onto a 1" wide plate and on roll on the image. I need to keep my silver from shifting on the plate while rolling through. on a 6" long piece for a cuff, the soft metal seems to want to shift on the plate? Thank you
I prefer to roll jewelry sized pieces separately vs texturing a long piece as the metal will curve more as the size increases
Thanks Ms. Leslie! :-) A couple of questions please. 1) If the vase is wide enough, can you do two at once? 2) did you put resist on the sides too or just the back? 3) can you reuse the etching solution? Thanks!
I put resist on the sides and the back -and you can etch as many as will fit in your container with out touching each other.
Hi! I've used your method and created some pretty cool texture plates. Thank you! Question: is there a way to reuse the solution? Do I pour into another container and dispose of the sediment or should I just insert the bubbler again to agitate? I want to make the most of my solution. Thank you!
I found the comment where you explain!
Go to my website which is listed in the comments underneath the video and click on free video section and you will find that there is a download underneath the video you can keep that and print it out for reusing your solution instructions
@@LeslieKailVillarreal awesome, thank you so much!
Anyone know if you can use something besides the vinyl? It's hard to get a small design with my cricut with the vinyl. Love how these turn out though! Great video thank you for sharing.
I have not found a resist transfer with much detail that will hold up in the copper sulfate bath. the only thing I haven't tried is photo etching as a revisit which might work if you want smaller detailing in your designs. If you want to get detail with pnp type transfer paper you will need to etch with saltwater with electricity. Let us know if you learn of anything else!
@@LeslieKailVillarreal I will thanm you!
Can you texture both sides of metal with a different pattern? If so what gauge of metal would be best?
Deborah Long I’ve done it with the same pattern on both sides..I’d use a 16g
Hi Leslie, is it okay to use a 2mm steel plate? I only have the economy rolling mill at present, it opens to 3mm but thinking it is making it very tight fit.
it will bend on you i recommend a thicker option
@@LeslieKailVillarreal thank you, I will save up for a Durston 😊
This information is Gold! Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us. I am so excited to get my new rolling mill and try etching my own plates! Just a quick question. Can you store and reuse the solution? If so, how do you know when the solution is spent? Thanks in advance!
Good question, can you reuse the solution?
yes my reply to the
read the comment above
Since you are doing this outside on a nice sunny day, I was wondering if any kind of heat speeds up the process. Such as a heating pad underneath on low. ?
Yes
Please send the links to the resist products. Thank s
You can google my friend
I have been chemically etching for years, but my image transfer method was difficult. I am a bit confused here. I want to print my image/pattern with a laser printer on a material that I can transfer to the metal and burnish the laser printing as a resist onto the metal. I not too sure on the materials?
I don’t believe there’s any type of printable resist that would hold up with chemicals I’m using here the only resist that I am aware of that would work here with this copper solution would be vinyl or paint enamel such as nail polish oil based paint or asphaltum and for these methods you would have to stamp them on or use asphalt them covered over the entire piece and then scrape out your design
Thanks for your hard work! What is the size of the steel plates you show at the end? They look to be about 3" x 4"... Would you consider 3" x 6" or 7" too large for any reason? I have an older Durston with about 6" wide flat rollers. Thanks again!
they can be as wide as your flat rollers can handle. 6” is lone longest I’ve made
@@LeslieKailVillarreal Thx so much for the quick answer. I ordered some 7" as well as 4 and 6 so we'll see how that goes :). Just placed the order and yet can't remember if I ordered 2" or 3" x 7" LOL!
Thank you Leslie!! Super!! Where do you get your Copper Sulfate? Did you wash your plates after etch with Baking soda and water? Can't wait for a video on Sillouette or Cricket. Don't know anything about them. I want to try this so Bad.........Thank you Thank you.. will get my other stuff ordered.
amazon
Copper Sulfate Pentahydrate - Crystals - 25.2% Cu - this is the right stuff?
hi beautiful! does the same chemical work for Copper? if it doesn't, what do you recommend?
Nicole Kim please look through my videos on pepe rolling mill etching on brass (this would also be for copper)
Please can you tell me if there is a Uk rolling mill that will take A3 size Metal sheet? I am in need of one like so badly!
Mild steel is best for rolling mills. Not tool steel if You have any further questions why don’t you contact Durstan they are in the UK.
Can I use the vinil as a resist on Sterling Silver?
MICASA1121 yes!!
Do you have a video using copper or brass? Would the etching time period be the same for softer metals?
ElamCo Inc. yes look for my video on the Pepe mill
With great ♥
Etching info starts at around 23 minutes in.
Leslie What size do you have your steel plates cut to?
I tell them the size I need, for each design
Does the type of salt matter? Sea salt, iodized salt or kosher? Thanks! I ordered everything else and am almost ready to go!! 🙌🏼
I use kosher but it should not matter
Hi - Brilliant Video. Can I just ask why the texture plate might only last up to 100 uses?
Also I think I might know why you shouldn't open the rollers too wide. I have a cheap indian rolling mill (hoping to buy a Durston soon). If I open my rollers more than 6mm the gears disengage. Sometimes when I close the rollers, again this is on a cheap Indian Rolling Mill, the gears are offset and start to grind. The gears are visible on my mill so I can see it happening.
Janice Chapman Hi there I’ve never gotten past 100 rolls with one plate so they might last longer I think 100 is just what people could expect and worst case scenario thanks for posting