Very helpful guys, thanks-- I am fairly new to Marvel Champions and happened to get into the game when I found a $7 Mutant Genesis-- couldn't resist! Since them I've decided to just go all mutant, all the time, and this definitely helps me figure out what to go for as I collect!
I'll give VT the nod here just because Nelson's picks are a little bit more situational. Not all villains have attachments you need to get rid of and in true solo Karma can be a bit more hit-or-miss in my limited experience. However, I think I'd pick Armor over Polaris. She's so cheap and so useful - two blocks plus a point of damage or thwart inbetween is a bargain for a 2-cost ally IMO.
Love seeing @Villain Theory on your channel! He's the reason I'm now collecting all the packs from his buyers guide. Been having a blast playing the core set. But was looking to get Next Evolution, heard most go to RORS. But I love X Men! And Juggernaut is my favourite character.
Great topic, banter and card coverage. I'll take VT's please - pretty much can list them ALL as "always guys". Yeah Goldballs put Wolvie on the edge of the trash pile (into the "niche only" pile) imo. Psylocke was pushing to start with since she has a "double-tap" attack anyway. If you need to break piercing, that are so many great cheap allies to just pop it or even hero basic that your deck prob has anyway. If you got Goldballs, Triage is effectively 8att,1thw,1block for 3ER! I like the Polaris over Armor for that floating 'Tough' too. Karma has a lot going FOR her, but a LOT against her too. Not only does the "pair" take 2 ally slots in a non-leadership aspect, but that "bonus ally" is not gonna be an "X-man" so will turn off Utopia's Ally limit bump also. So you instantly drop to 1 other ally as your limit...which is kinda harsh in an X-man deck - there are just SSOOOO many great (& often cheap) buddies to come thru. Hmm, I think Forge is losing out these days to the PSS and the new pair of basic 2 costed X-men - Triage & Beak. My "mostly Hero" decks are only running 2 supports for him: X-Jet & Utopia. I'll get 1 from Build Support and BS will leave the deck-cycle rather than remain a low-stat card. Before Next-Gen, he might still make it. If you are running 6+ targets for him, then early on you prob have 1 or more of them in hand and/or cannot afford him AND 2.
No mention of Wolverine is honestly a little criminal. He's effectively a semi-permanent 3 ATK and 1 THW on occasion and that piercing has come into play so much recently now that villains and minions have been getting toughs more and more, not to mention you can easily boost Wolverine's ATK to insanity with training upgrades and other means :) (Edit: I didn't watch until the end but Villain does briefly mention him... I think he does deserve a spot on the list however)
I used to include Forge in all my X-men decks, but nowadays I feel like I'm picking between him and Build Support. I don't personally like running both, and Forge loses to Build Support because I usually play 3p. Professor X is in nearly all of my decks, and Polaris is in nearly all of my protection decks. But Psylocke and Sunfire are in nearly all of my aggression decks. So I guess I'll give this to Villain because Goldballs.
Love the picks guys. Nelson, I feel like Colossus goes in more frequently then Forge in my X-men ally decks. He’s also a basic card, and comes in with Toughness. 3attack can go a long way too. What do you think?
There are so many good X-men allies that it's hard to choose after the unequivocal number one in Prof X. I put Dazzler in almost all my Justice decks now, since she's not trait-locked. Beast also goes into so many Leadership decks now. Forge is almost an auto include in every X-men deck for him helping you setup faster grabbing X-men supports which is key to most X-men builds for getting X-jet, X-mansion, Cerebro, Danger Room, and Utopia. Armor is so good for a cheap ally that can get two blocks out of her in Protection. Triage is so great in Bishop's deck and X-23's deck since she can heal Honey Badger! I kind of wish y'all waited until the full cycle was release because I think Husk looks amazing in Jubilee's pack. VT wins btw!
I can decided who one, I think its pretty even. My favourite xman ally is cannonball. I know he's a lot more niche but he can be stupid in a angel deck
VT wins for me. Its pretty close, but i dont think Karma makes the top 10 - good in a bubble but she us in maybe one of my decks? Whereas all of VT's are top 10 worthy.
I can't believe no one picked Beak! I see several picks on both lists that Beak easily beats IMO. Standard to insane value in the games I've ran her in. Nelson has some good picks. I don't ever see a situation where I'm not running Sunfire in aggression, outside of maybe a Hulk deck, one of the best allies in the entire game IMO. I would have picked Armor over Polaris, but I still give the victory decisively to Villian Theory.
@NelsonAllOverCards Well that makes sense then! I told my wife he would definitely make the list so I looked like a fool lol! Played him yesterday in a Colossus regroup deck and between that, med lab and pixie, he removed 20 threat over 5 turns!
Quick note: Triage is a long hair HE not a she. I gotta give this one to VT, although none of you chose Wolverine 😢. No love for 'Pool aspect, I think Negasonic Teenage Warhead is incredibly powerful, definitely in my top 5.
VT won this one before you guys even started when he got the first pick, it’s just how it is. My number 2 behind Professor X is definitely Sunfire, the utility is just incredible and his floor is really high too.
VT wins, even if none of you picked my boy, BEAK, who is just behind Professor X. I wouldn't even put Karma over Armor. Goldballs is amazing in any discard synergy and great in any deck. Sorry Nelson, but this one isn't even close :X.
Oh my gosh, you guys are so fun to watch. Your love for the game is so infectious! Keep up the good work, folks.
Thank you so much for the kind words!
You'll have to do this all over again now that Nightcrawler has brought in Rogue and Gambit! :D
Very helpful guys, thanks-- I am fairly new to Marvel Champions and happened to get into the game when I found a $7 Mutant Genesis-- couldn't resist! Since them I've decided to just go all mutant, all the time, and this definitely helps me figure out what to go for as I collect!
Yeah, the X-Men brought me into the game as well.
I'll give VT the nod here just because Nelson's picks are a little bit more situational. Not all villains have attachments you need to get rid of and in true solo Karma can be a bit more hit-or-miss in my limited experience.
However, I think I'd pick Armor over Polaris. She's so cheap and so useful - two blocks plus a point of damage or thwart inbetween is a bargain for a 2-cost ally IMO.
Love seeing @Villain Theory on your channel! He's the reason I'm now collecting all the packs from his buyers guide. Been having a blast playing the core set. But was looking to get Next Evolution, heard most go to RORS. But I love X Men! And Juggernaut is my favourite character.
Great topic, banter and card coverage.
I'll take VT's please - pretty much can list them ALL as "always guys".
Yeah Goldballs put Wolvie on the edge of the trash pile (into the "niche only" pile) imo. Psylocke was pushing to start with since she has a "double-tap" attack anyway. If you need to break piercing, that are so many great cheap allies to just pop it or even hero basic that your deck prob has anyway.
If you got Goldballs, Triage is effectively 8att,1thw,1block for 3ER!
I like the Polaris over Armor for that floating 'Tough' too.
Karma has a lot going FOR her, but a LOT against her too.
Not only does the "pair" take 2 ally slots in a non-leadership aspect, but that "bonus ally" is not gonna be an "X-man" so will turn off Utopia's Ally limit bump also.
So you instantly drop to 1 other ally as your limit...which is kinda harsh in an X-man deck - there are just SSOOOO many great (& often cheap) buddies to come thru.
Hmm, I think Forge is losing out these days to the PSS and the new pair of basic 2 costed X-men - Triage & Beak. My "mostly Hero" decks are only running 2 supports for him: X-Jet & Utopia. I'll get 1 from Build Support and BS will leave the deck-cycle rather than remain a low-stat card. Before Next-Gen, he might still make it. If you are running 6+ targets for him, then early on you prob have 1 or more of them in hand and/or cannot afford him AND 2.
Love love love this format!! Thanks guys!! 🎉🎉🎉
I'm surprised to not see Armor on these lists, she'd definitely be on the list for me. 2 cost with tough, can't beat that
No mention of Wolverine is honestly a little criminal. He's effectively a semi-permanent 3 ATK and 1 THW on occasion and that piercing has come into play so much recently now that villains and minions have been getting toughs more and more, not to mention you can easily boost Wolverine's ATK to insanity with training upgrades and other means :)
(Edit: I didn't watch until the end but Villain does briefly mention him... I think he does deserve a spot on the list however)
I used to include Forge in all my X-men decks, but nowadays I feel like I'm picking between him and Build Support. I don't personally like running both, and Forge loses to Build Support because I usually play 3p.
Professor X is in nearly all of my decks, and Polaris is in nearly all of my protection decks. But Psylocke and Sunfire are in nearly all of my aggression decks. So I guess I'll give this to Villain because Goldballs.
Fun video. I’ve gotta give it to VT. I love triage she has saved my butt numerous times. Professor X is the best.
Love the picks guys. Nelson, I feel like Colossus goes in more frequently then Forge in my X-men ally decks. He’s also a basic card, and comes in with Toughness. 3attack can go a long way too. What do you think?
Choosing to assume this was before our boy Beak was here 🐦
Yep! He takes spots 1-7 now 🐦
There are so many good X-men allies that it's hard to choose after the unequivocal number one in Prof X. I put Dazzler in almost all my Justice decks now, since she's not trait-locked. Beast also goes into so many Leadership decks now. Forge is almost an auto include in every X-men deck for him helping you setup faster grabbing X-men supports which is key to most X-men builds for getting X-jet, X-mansion, Cerebro, Danger Room, and Utopia. Armor is so good for a cheap ally that can get two blocks out of her in Protection. Triage is so great in Bishop's deck and X-23's deck since she can heal Honey Badger! I kind of wish y'all waited until the full cycle was release because I think Husk looks amazing in Jubilee's pack. VT wins btw!
I can decided who one, I think its pretty even. My favourite xman ally is cannonball. I know he's a lot more niche but he can be stupid in a angel deck
The clear winner here is obviously Cyclops
VT wins for me.
Its pretty close, but i dont think Karma makes the top 10 - good in a bubble but she us in maybe one of my decks? Whereas all of VT's are top 10 worthy.
I would take VTs over Nelsons on this one!
Draft time!!
I can't believe no one picked Beak! I see several picks on both lists that Beak easily beats IMO. Standard to insane value in the games I've ran her in.
Nelson has some good picks. I don't ever see a situation where I'm not running Sunfire in aggression, outside of maybe a Hulk deck, one of the best allies in the entire game IMO.
I would have picked Armor over Polaris, but I still give the victory decisively to Villian Theory.
Beak was not out when we did the draft or else they would have absolutely made the list!
@NelsonAllOverCards Well that makes sense then! I told my wife he would definitely make the list so I looked like a fool lol!
Played him yesterday in a Colossus regroup deck and between that, med lab and pixie, he removed 20 threat over 5 turns!
@@mattvoegtli9928 he’s so incredibly strong haha he’s in most of my decks these days
Quick note: Triage is a long hair HE not a she.
I gotta give this one to VT, although none of you chose Wolverine 😢.
No love for 'Pool aspect, I think Negasonic Teenage Warhead is incredibly powerful, definitely in my top 5.
Nega is X-Force not X-men.
@@shanepheeney9029 oh right, I was thinking about Mutants in general.
VT wins this one, the forge and karma picks while they are good just aren’t auto picks
VT won this one before you guys even started when he got the first pick, it’s just how it is. My number 2 behind Professor X is definitely Sunfire, the utility is just incredible and his floor is really high too.
And the winner is…VT! Too easy with the first pick. Probably Beak could be in a Top 10…
Totally agree with Beak being in the top 10 - when we did the draft he was not out yet though
VT wins, even if none of you picked my boy, BEAK, who is just behind Professor X.
I wouldn't even put Karma over Armor.
Goldballs is amazing in any discard synergy and great in any deck.
Sorry Nelson, but this one isn't even close :X.
Haha Beak wasn’t out when we recorded this
I’ll try harder next time!