Siskel & Ebert - If We Picked the Oscars (1983)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- BEST ACTOR:
Gene's choice: Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie"
Roger's choice: Paul Newman in "The Verdict"
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Gene's choice: Jessica Lange in "Tootsie"
Roger's choice: Jessica Lange in "Tootsie"
BEST ACTRESS:
Gene's choice: Meryl Streep in "Sophie's Choice"
Roger's choice: Meryl Streep in "Sophie's Choice"
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR:
Gene's choice: Louis Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentleman"
Roger's choice: Louis Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentleman"
BEST PICTURE:
Gene's choice: "Tootsie"
Roger's choice: "E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial"
WORST NOMINATIONS:
Mutual choices: "How Do You Keep the Music Playing?", "If We Were In Love", and "It Might Be You" for Best Original Song
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And 40 years later in 2023, Roger Ebert was correct. E.T is still a masterpiece.
Roger was right about ET, I recently rewatched it for the first time in 20 years and it still holds up as a viewing experience.
When Roger talked about "E.T" 's timeless quality, he nailed it. It wasn't going to beat an epic like "Gandhi" for Best Picture but it's one of Spielberg's best movies.
It didnt become the biggest success of all time for no reason
@@cherylhulting1301 Gandhi is great but its certainly not timeless
@LukeLovesRose I'm pretty sure she didn't say it was timeless. She was agreeing with Roger saying ET was timeless but Gandhi was a juggernaut and unstoppable. Just my interpretation of her words.
Incredibly rich year at the Oscars- great to see Gene and Roger's picks!
Wow, those were 5 very strong performances in the Best Actor category. I don't know how I could choose one as the best; they were all brilliant.
Yes, that category was tough. But when it comes down to it, "Gandhi" rests ultimately on the quality of Ben Kingsley's performance of him. While I wish the film had delved deeper into Gandhi's character (he was a much more wily and complex man than Richard Attenborough presented), Kingsley did wonders with what he had to work with. And he had to carry an epic 3-hour story of a remarkable life and did it with restraint and dignity.
I appreciated that Gene said he was torn between Kingsley and Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie." Those would have been my top two choices too (no disrespect to Paul Newman).
Boy, was Roger right about E.T. He nailed it.
He and Siskel were both right. I feel E.T. or Tootsie should have won over Gandhi. Those movies still remain very fresh in my memory and I remember nothing of Gandhi. Not that it was a bad film but there was much stronger competition. Even Richard Attenborough who directed Gandhi said E.T. should have won. Hence probably why Steven Spielberg later cast him in Jurassic Park.
I dont like E.T
@@spencer10182I remember Attenborough when he said that in his Oscar speech. He knew a great classic when he saw one, and E.t. is definitely a classic for the ages
And I believe that's why Steven Spielberg chose him to play the part of the professor in Jurassic Park.
1982 was just an insane year for film (remembering that these are films from '82, with the awards being given in '83). The amount of great movies that year has rarely been equaled. Speaking as someone who was a kid that summer, alone, it was just overwhelming.
It's so amazing to be watching films in the modern age. For one, you have all the films ever made at your disposal, but more than that the sheer volume of great films that are coming out really warms me. Cut out the overproduced hogslop that gets put out by Disney and Fox nowadays and you're left with an honestly astonishing number of certified classics, when in past decades you have best pictures with 0 cultural impact.
The best example of how horrible the Academy has been at predicting culture was when they gave Best Picture to "Driving Miss Daisy" (nominated it for 9 awards, actually) in a year where "Do the Right Thing" was released (and not nominated at all). To be fair they still pull shit like this (Nobody saw Green Book and it won't be remembered in 10 years) but i will jump at any excuse to complain about how badly Spike Lee got snubbed in 1990
@@westofley What are these modern classics you speak of?
@@JohnSmith-to5ow Knives Out, EEAAO, Parasite, Banshees of Inisherin, Sound of Metal, I'm Thinking of Ending Things, Barbie, Tar, Oppenheimer. The list goes on. The number of genuinely phenomenal movies I've seen in the last couple of years is astounding. That's not even considering all the amazing horror movies we've gotten. Nope, Talk to Me, The Menu, X, Malignant, Candyman, Doctor Sleep. If you aren't watching good new movies it's because you don't want to watch them.
@@westofley Knives out was a solid fun movie. Tar was meh. Doctor Sleep was okay. I'll have to investigate the rest of them though! Thanks for the suggestions.
I will say the modern age (last 20 years maybe) has given us some interesting weird (but makes you think) movies, that didn't exist back in the day (as far as I know). Such as movies from the greek direct Yorgos Lanthimos, and swedish director Roy Andersson.
@@JohnSmith-to5ow if you want a good surrealist film, i just watched this polish film from the 70s called The Hourglass Sanatorium. Honestly one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen, from a production design standpoint. definitely a weird one, too
ach, my heart. they're both gone;
"You are heartless!"
"I enjoyed much of _E.T.!_ don't you lay that on me!"
"You are _relatively_ heartless!"
"Thank you."
Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert are two of the most watchable, witty, humorous, charming, (definitely iconic) duo in the history of entertainment.
we love you guys and miss you very much. corny, maybe, but i mean it. from the (relative) heart. laff.
I remember the 'heartless' part cracked me up when I saw its original airing. I've never forgotten it.
Fans of Siskel & Ebert always wanted them to admit their mutual admiration and affection for each other. They never vocalized their feelings, but in this interplay, they demonstrated it.
Tootsie vs E.T was very close
I remember seeing that Nestle Crunch commercial on T.V.!
Christ I'm old..
Paul Newman deserved that award. He blew away the competition.
I agree with Newman deserving, BLEW AWAY...No Sir
One of the Greatest Lineups in Academy History
E.T. IS A CLASSIC AND IT SHOULD HAVE WON BY MILES AND MILES!!!!!!!!!!
The 1st Oscar Close should have won!
Thank you for posting these shows. I got really sick of watching the same S&E clips over and over again for about a million times.
Love those old commercials!
Paul Newman deserved to win Best Actor!
Thank you for posting this -- these are all so much fun! I was definitely with Ebert on "The Verdict," which remains a great film, and I do think Paul Newman should have won over Kingsley's impersonation of Gandhi, which (cough) does not age well on multiple fronts.
I was surprised at how harsh they were on Julie Andrews in "Victor/Victoria" -- I think they missed the point. The point was that she was playing a woman playing a man playing a woman -- who was such an unbelievably believable woman that when "he" revealed the deception, everyone freaked (and the show became the toast of Paris). I still love "Victor/Victoria," which holds up wonderfully today -- I just wish Edwards had removed the cowardly "bathroom reveal" (added because Edwards panicked). It ruins Garner's arc. But luckily Garner is so good his "I don't care" scene still has impact.
Interesting that the 3 categories they agreed on (actress, supporting actor and actress) were the actual winners. Best actor and film they disagreed with each other and Oscar.
While not the best performance of any of their careers (except maybe Kingsley), I don't think there's ever been a more impressive group of actors in this category. You could argue that Hoffman, Newman, Lemmon, & O'Toole are all among the best 20 actors ever in American film.
You could also argue, as I would, that Ben Kingsley is the greatest film actor of any nationality alive today.
And, not that I wish to undermine your point, but most of O'Toole's best work is in British films. He gave perhaps 2 renowned performances in American movies, both in the early 80s.
Because this is a long video, here are some chapter stops:
Best Actor: 1:21
Best Supporting Actress: 19:02
Best Actress: 25:56
Best Supporting Actor: 33:38
Best Picture: 38:50
Worst nomination: 47:26
Best Picture: E.T
Best Director: Ridley Scott (Blade Runner)
Best Actor: Ben Kingsley
Best Actress: Streep and Lange Tie
Best Supporting Actor: Lou Gossett Jr.
Best Supporting Actress: Glenn Close
So many great performances overlooked in 1982
Eddie Murphy (48 HRS)
Sean Penn (Fast Times At Ridgemont High)
Rutger Hauer (Blade Runner)
Mickey Rourke (Diner)
Ricardo Montalban (Star Trek 2. Wrath of Khan)
James Earl Jones (Conan the Barbarian)
Kevin Kline (Sophie's Choice)
Quite different from the purpose of this show, which is to choose among the available nominees.
ET and Ridley Scott?? Good choices
Totally disagree with their assessment of Jack Lemmon in Missing. It was a powerful performance that shows his versatility as an actor who is adept in both comedy and drama, and if it seemed he's annoying towards the end is because of his desperation about his son is intensifying.
Sure the image quality is poor, but what's a guy gonna do? This is almost 40 years old! My preferences for that year:
"E.T." in every nominated category except for Cinematography and Sound Mixing where I'd vote for "Das Boot", and Film Editing for "Gandhi". Kingsley, Streep, Lithgow, and Lange in the acting categories. "Blade Runner" for Art Direction, "La Traviata" for Costume Design. "It Might Be You" for Best Song. "The Verdict" for Adapted Screenplay. Maybe "Clean Slate" for Foreign Film, although I'd need to see the others.
Good choices!
The Verdict is a great movie, Gene. Gee-whiz
Is it me or is it just funny to see this old commercials?
They were really harsh on Jack Lemmon. I thought he was very good and deeply moving.
Roger's play call of Newman's performance is why I watch these videos. I look forward to the rest of it. I hear the E.T. discussion is legit.
I think they're being brutally unfair to "It Might Be You" from "Tootsie", which has Dave Grusin's indelible signature all over it and shouldn't be maligned with the other two nominees that have Bergman lyrics. I've only seen "Tootsie" once, but that song wormed its way through my brain for months afterward. It's a gentle, sweet romantic tune, warmly evocative of the early 80s. I know the lyrics aren't transcendently brilliant or original, but they're an appropriate complement to the film's narrative.
Roger is dead wrong at 49:17 because "It Might Be You" was a #1 hit on the Adult Contemporary charts and reached #25 on the Billboard Hot 100.
Well said. The song is also used at the perfect time in the film. I love when Charles Durning is staring at Dorothy at the dinner table lol. Those scenes were also beautifully shot by Owen Roizman. It’s a great song that just wasn’t tacked on to the credits. It was used during a very special time in the film.
Tootsie is a masterpiece. One of the all time greats.
It Might Be You reminds me of my deceased partner of 24 years. He loved it and adopted it as a sort of tertiary anthem for the two of us.
“Up Where We Belong” was the best original song of the year, but I agree. “It Might Be You” is a beautiful song.
I absolutely agree on "It Might Be You" -- it's a genuinely beautiful song, with lovely and thoughtful lyrics. It's important to the film (and doesn't just play over the credits), and it holds up even decades later.
Damn, I actually remember that stupid Nestle crunch commercial all these years later. I guess whoever made that ad knew what they were doing ("crispy crunchies are the harmonieeeeee")
Wow! I didn't realize how many gender bending roles there were in 1983!
iirc, Linda Hunt playing a man in The Year of Living Dangerously kicked off a trend.
i wonder if Roger was so moved by Paul Newman's performance as an alcoholic because of his own issues? almost certainly, right?
There are very few movies about alcoholics he didn't like. Consider "Leaving Las Vegas" and "When A Man Loves A Woman". His response to each was no doubt deeply personal.
Possibly. Roger did, though, point out some nice subtleties in Paul Newman's performance.
Maybe, but I also think he was right. His written review of "The Verdict" was especially eloquent on Newman's performance and the poetry in it.
47:13 looks like John Goodman. Fudge Jumbles' commercial. God, those look good. Sadly, they have gone extinct. Never to be tasted again.
25:26 - I guess he had to work his way up to Psychiatrist? Maybe he'd have carried on cleaning bathtubs if he knew he'd have to deal with Sarah Connor in the long-run
I thought Roger was born with gray hair.
It’s interesting to me that Siskel found Julie Andrews’ character unconvincing as a man in “Victor/Victoria,” yet his Best Actor pick was Dustin Hoffman in “Tootsie,” also his Best Picture choice. From the time I first saw the latter film at the theater at age 6 to now at 47, I’ve always felt the same way about Hoffman that Siskel felt about Andrews.
Hoffman’s exaggerated mannerisms are a telltale sign that his character is pretending to be a woman. Even as a first-grader, I found it ridiculous that anyone would be fooled by his character’s ruse. And those strong features unhidden by all that makeup? Get outta here! 🤣
I disagree
Gene loves a trap! lol I think he was quite taken with Dorothy there
Gene was right, though. One of the brilliant aspects of Dustin Hoffman's performance is how he really gets you to believe and invest in Dorothy Michaels. It's marvelous work. Gene was also rught in saying that "Tootsie" is really a quite perfect comedy. It's just on par in every scene.
The best supporting actress should have absolutely went to Glenn Close.
Yeah, that was a tough one. I did like Jessica Lange in "Tootsie" but there was even more meat on the bones of Glenn Close's performance in "Garp." I can't believe that Glenn still hasn't won her Oscar.
Ben Kingsley was the best, no doubt - but Paul Newman in The Verdict... wow! A very close second.
It's astonishing that Siskel missed the depth of Newman's performance in The Verdict, well then he often did
Agreed. To dismiss Newman in "The Verdict" is just absurd.
Boy, we’re they way off on the best actor. Ben Kingsley is a billion, a billion times better than the other four. So the academy actually got it right that year.
Jessica Lange did not deserve the Oscar for Supporting Actress
She was practically the Lead, but she never did anything special to deserve it
It is a thankless role
Strong disagreement. I think Lange cracks it out of the park, as she does in every movie. I don't think she's revered enough, despite having two Oscars. Her role in Tootsie may be "thankless" insofar as she isn't demanding of the audience's attention like Hoffman or Garr, but she delivers her lines in such a mild and natural manner, subtly conveying a sweet sensitivity and fragility (which she's always brilliant with). There’s a peculiar sadness lurking beneath her smiles, giving the distinct impression of someone who feels trapped by society's expectations. Lange is superb at expressing a wide range of thoughts and emotions purely through body language and unpredictable, seemingly spontaneous vocal inflections. This is actually one of the uncommon cases where I agree with the Academy's choice in this category.
@@flaccidusminimus2170 I understand where you are coming from, and there is nothing wrong with her performance, but too me, it was just that , Sweet - nothing else - First of all 1982 was not the Best Year for Actresses - Out of all the nominees, my favorite was Lesley Ann Warren with Glenn Close a close second and Glenn was a performance I used to hate the first 5 times I saw it and then seeing the movie again a few years back, I saw how subtle and wonderful it was
Maybe it'll happen with Jessica Lange - I doubt it- I have seen Tootsie at least 40 times and it is a Great Movie with Perfect Performances, half of me thinks she won because she was not going to win Best Actress
This. Terri Garr is better in the same movie.
@@flaccidusminimus2170 I wish her 2nd came from Sweet Dreams or Music Box.
I would have been happy for almost any of that year's Supporting Actress nominees to win -- they were all amazing, but I do think Lange has an deceptively difficult task set for her in "Tootsie" -- her character is sweet, but she's also vulnerable, flawed, and living in quiet despair. Her scenes with "Dorothy" are all fantastic because she is able to depict multiple emotions and conflicting feelings at once. All that -- plus the subtly overacted "soap opera" part she played. I thought it was a much-deserved win.
ugh. i have to say, and i'm sorry if this upsets you, but there are very few beloved movies i like LESS than _Tootsie._ i can't stand it.
saccharine, maudlin, glazed in unearned sentimentality . . . creepy, disturbing, VASTLY over-valued. i just honestly can't stand that movie. there's a scene with some awful ballad blaring on the soundtrack and Dustin Hoffman gazing creepily at his love interest (who has no idea he's actually a man). i could go on.
Bill Murray, though. why wasn't HE nominated????
sigh. what do i know?
very little, apparently.
80's. Probably the worst in cinema history!
Boy are you way off
These 2 men left us too early. I wonder if watching so many movies and the radiation might have contributed to their cancers.
What a strange thing to speculate about! Televisions and theatre screens emit less radiation than you receive from stepping outside in the sunlight on any given day.
Roger's salivary gland cancer was attributed to the *heavy* radiation treatment he received as a child for an ear infection. This was common medical practice in the late 1940s. Salivary gland tumors are uncommon, but rates are relatively high among people who were treated thusly for ear infections as children. That was his personal conclusion based on what his oncologists told him.
Gene died from a brain tumor, of which only a small minority of incidences are caused by known environmental factors. As with most cancers, they are otherwise the result of random genetic mutations (ie. bad luck).
@@flaccidusminimus2170 What are you, Flaccidus Maximus, an oncologist? If you stay in the sun long enough, you get skin cancer. These guys were in a movie theater getting radiation half of their adult lives. It must have had some impact.