I'm old, I was quite old when I learned jumps. It took years. The thing that held me back was not understanding boosting. I kept absorbing take offs a bit with my limbs. I found that pushing with my feet with the front wheel pulled up made the whole thing just work better. Just a spring in the ankles on the pedals to start with. It feels like the push into the back tyre up the ramp, right to the lip, makes the back wheel hold the bike straighter in the air and, although you go higher, it feels safer. Next is to pull the bars towards your belt buckle and springing with the knees as well as the ankles on take off (boost) tom shows it perfectly in the slow mo. Took me years. So good when I got it!! Wear pads and have someone with you to learn.
Filming yourself is incredibly helpful , especially as there often is a huge difference between what you think and even what you feel you're doing and what you're actually really doing. And its difficult to understand when someone tries to explain what he sees and you get him/her wrong. Seeing yourself, in slo-mo is really the best thing to learn.
From when she first started riding to where she's at now is amazing, really inspiring! Her skills, confidence & willingness to take advice/criticism is really going to benefit her In the long run.
Great advice thought i would watch this after struggling at twisted on Wednesday. Ive got work to do thank you both for having a picture with my son its pride of place on his wall now 👍🏻
dont feel bad ive been now 14 years or more off mtb geting back in to it this summer this helping us both keep up ur good work work much love from canada
great job Kara! Watching it back it looks like your legs are bending and you're actually squashing the jump a bit. I think pushing your knees forward over your toes and into the face of the jump will get you the air you're looking for (when you're ready!)
I think one of the biggest problems with beginners is the position on the bike. They tend to stay to tall and it is hard to adapt to the motion on the bike at different speeds. I would not get in to the pop or any other details. I would start with the first setup (the long rollin), get the weight of the rider lower (flex them legs a bit more and keep the but over the rear axle) and hit the jumps at different speeds (increase the number of crancks or the lengts from the start to the ramp). Cheers Tom ! Thanks for the cool videos.
Great video. I definitely recommend playing around with skills such as manuals, endos. Practicing the endo will help with getting used to scooping the back wheel up. Great progression though
My advice to Kara was to practice manuals and hops maybe on the manual machine then you can take those skills and basically hop of the lip with a manual making sure to straighten those arms of yours!
@@TomCardy Looks like Kara has all the help she needs, But get her to a foam pit or more air bag sessions? Other than that, when will you get her back flipping?
Some decent progression there, I found learning the bunny hop helped get more height on jumps. Have you considered doing any jump specific strength and conditioning/agility training with Kara? Plyometrics and sprints would transfer greatly for pedaling power and getting that pop
I feel like for all the other beginner jumpers (which I am) what has really helped my progress is standing tall then dropping ur weight and getting a good pump before the jump or bunny hop. Cheers 🤙
Having bought a Hopper lite based on your videos and Sam's etc, it's actually quite daunting, it looks easy, but we'll done to Kara for hitting it. I haven't hit it yet as I'm trying to get down the right technique. On a side note, not sure about the B and Q's but we're expecting increases in timber prices next month, if you still had some to buy
Was a good idea, I think Kara is getting a fast track on jumping bikes with always hanging out with you and Sam but she often looked like a passenger on her bike while hitting bigger stuff and relying a lot on the suspension.
Doesn't matter how hard you pull if you don't preload by bending the knees more coming into the jump. If you watch Tom's slow motion, that preload is just a fraction of a second before the jump. For most people it is much slower. Best way to learn that is to practice getting the maximum height on the tiniest jump.
Looks to me n I've noticed on most ur jumps as I notice it with my wifes jumps. U seem to hit the jump with dead weight.. the hoop at the lip like cardy said is important... great work regardless 👏 👍 👌
I love/hate filming myself as im learning jumps. Thats because when I feel ive nailed it and got good height 😁 i watch back and see how the reality of my jump was not quite how it felt/played out in my head 😔
Would be cool to see her take on the bunny hop high bar you made. Improving there could help her jumping, as well as give something to measure progress with in a follow up video a few months down the track.
Good stuff guys... very logical and sequentially well thought out 👍🏻 Thanks for the awesome tips.... ramps are for just doing bunny hops off... I’ll remember that one Tom. Be great if you guys could make it to Australia to ride some different trails and urban mayhem. Make Pilgs pay for the tickets please.
One thing I've noticed is that kara is hitting the top of her pop halfway up the ramp where as Tom is boosting right through the lip and doesn't reach full extension till he well into the air.
I love the 3rd person perspective and the tips and adjustments. Any chance you could do flat ground bunny hops? that's been my focus for many months, and would love some more tips :)
Tom is almost certainly a better rider but a qualified coach will be able to break down and explain everything better which is ultimately more helpful but really I learned to jump by just watching my mates and trying
Nice work..and my point of view. It's not only pulling! You need to push on the handlebar and then pull like in a bunnyhop (and like Tom is showing in the video) otherwise your body is not in the right position and you are going to pull only with the arms and not with the bodiweight. It takes time and confidence buiding and I'm still learning because it is scary... Well done anyway!
Yeah, it looks to me like Tom pushes the bars away at the base of the jump, so he has more space to pull the bars back towards him at the top of the jump.
@@mattgies not at the base in general but the arms must be fully extended at the end of the lip... I'm still working on this even if on a bigger ramp... This is a small ramp so maybe it seems he started at the base but on a longer lips it must be timed correctly otherwise you crash
Trying to progress my girls, the older two are 9 and 11, been riding flats for 5 years. Tecently got them some new 26" wheel proper bikes, ultra small frames, hydraulic brakes. No sus. Light weight 20lb bikes, so they can learn bike handling and gain some skills. Took them down a red trail (no forced jumps, or drops) at walking speed so they could see the obstacles then had some guy bollock me that I should have bought them full sus bikes before doing the trail. Bollocks. Bikes didn't have sus when I learned to ride, and the weight advantage made them easy to throw about! Your thoughts....?
I am a terrible jumper but it seems to me that being aware of when the rear wheel is clear of the ramp lip is very important. Once the rear wheel is clear of the ramp you can use the bottom bracket as the pivot point rather than attempting to lower the front too early and finding yourself doing a front wheelie and then OTB!
Pump tracks are great to learn to jump, helpfull for balence when doing maneys and learning to pop of the jumps. And your speed is controled by your pumping so it teaches you to flow better if your trying to clear stuff and get a bit looser on the bike. Pluss there a great workout. 🥵👍
Any chance you can come to the most north easterly point in the uk and teach me how to jump? 🙂 (It is actually pretty cool knowing your bike it the most north easterly bike in the uk 🤣)
I can now do bunny hops on flat grounds but still cant do it on jumps. i don't really understand the "lean back/pull more" thing. I guess it all goes down to repetition? darn i really wish i could bunny hop on jumps.
Look up O.O as to were your flight path is and not the ground as you about to get airborne then row your arms in the air like in a rowing boat. You will get the confident feel of air and sea before you hit land.
I'd say Kara is doing really good however she is looking a bit like a passenger on her bike. She is actually squishing the jump a lot too. That is, she isn't jumping off of the ramp. She is just rolling and using the angle of the ramp to go up. Then she keeps her body as low as possible and bends her knees up as she takes off. Learning to jump is scary though. Personally, I think drills are a better way to get better technique. Two that helped me, that might help others are; 1) practice manual bunny hops. That is, manual for a split second and then jump off the rear wheel before the front wheel comes down. When you get good at this, do it a meter or so before a gutter and hop up the gutter. So roll towards a gutter, manual about a meter from the gutter and then jump through the feet just before the rear wheel hits the gutter. This will really get you to lift the wheel to a good spot and then jump the whole bike up from the rear wheel with the bike in a good wheel up position. 2) Set the ramp up in front of a higher landing (above the lip) to force the rider to lift the wheel up to clear the landing and actually make them jump higher or risk running into the front of the landing. For the first ramp angle, the landing might be 40cm higher than the lip. It's basically a step up with the landing quite close to the take off.
Just want to add, Kara is doing so well (taking advice, pushing herself, hearing criticism, and just improving so much) and Tom is doing an awesome job to share his knowledge/stoke. Love the channel guys. Keep it coming!
She basically does what a pro rider would do to go fast DH , you see them squish the jump cos airtime slows them down , she’s doing well but it still looks like she just lets gravity take control of the whole jump
The way I see it kara is no longer just a passenger jumping on the bike. She's actually riding the lip and pushing through it. Progress is only gonna keep going up and up its so sick!
It looks like Kara's arms are too bent at the lip to be able to pull the bars up, maybe approach with straighter arms and lean back more to get the pull.. Stand up wheelies might help with getting the motion 🤷♂️ great effort nonetheless! 👍
Get to dyfi and start blasting the trail's the bike park test's rider's of all skill level's and a bit of coaching from the Atherton's would definately push Kara to new level's
Why not be honest tom.and tell Kara that she is not moving from the waist up,she is crouched right from run in to landing. You know she has to stand up so why not tell her?
Not sure this is the safest/best way to learn/teach..... where is the compression/Pre-load of the bike before the jump....? Just bunny hopping a jump is not a cool way to learn.... upper body is way stiff and could lead to over or under rotating in the air... just sayin...!!
I'm old, I was quite old when I learned jumps. It took years. The thing that held me back was not understanding boosting. I kept absorbing take offs a bit with my limbs. I found that pushing with my feet with the front wheel pulled up made the whole thing just work better. Just a spring in the ankles on the pedals to start with. It feels like the push into the back tyre up the ramp, right to the lip, makes the back wheel hold the bike straighter in the air and, although you go higher, it feels safer. Next is to pull the bars towards your belt buckle and springing with the knees as well as the ankles on take off (boost) tom shows it perfectly in the slow mo. Took me years. So good when I got it!! Wear pads and have someone with you to learn.
Filming yourself is incredibly helpful , especially as there often is a huge difference between what you think and even what you feel you're doing and what you're actually really doing. And its difficult to understand when someone tries to explain what he sees and you get him/her wrong. Seeing yourself, in slo-mo is really the best thing to learn.
Half way through the vid, and Im like "w8 a minute, this is a video on Toms channel" :D
Is that the Pilgrim effect🤔
@@jayesh5131 no clue what you mean by that. I just thought I am watching Karas channel
As Kara said....."Dont try to run before you can walk".....nice work both of you
The side by side comparison in slow motion was extremely helpful.
From when she first started riding to where she's at now is amazing, really inspiring! Her skills, confidence & willingness to take advice/criticism is really going to benefit her In the long run.
I love how Kara legitimately enjoys learning and riding mtb. She’s progressing faster than me! Great video as always 🤟
Great advice thought i would watch this after struggling at twisted on Wednesday. Ive got work to do thank you both for having a picture with my son its pride of place on his wall now 👍🏻
Now it all makes sense! I commented on Kara's channel about how awesome her progress is! This is so DOPE!!!!
dont feel bad ive been now 14 years or more off mtb geting back in to it this summer this helping us both keep up ur good work work much love from canada
Whoa...She'll be 'flair to foot jam' soon. I am standing by!
Absolutely Fantastic, Very Brave on those jumps.
I love learning alongside Kara!
Love the support and encouragement you give. So nice to see. 👍🏻
Holy Hell Tom that Hop off the kicker was HUGE.... Thank you both for these. Helps me on my BMX. basics are the same.
Always good to see more women on the MTB. It's definetly not only for the guys. Respect for your courage Kara..
Great tuition skills folks, sure hope you make loads more
great job Kara! Watching it back it looks like your legs are bending and you're actually squashing the jump a bit. I think pushing your knees forward over your toes and into the face of the jump will get you the air you're looking for (when you're ready!)
Agreed, and I think that's super common until you get the confidence to take the full lift of the ramp/jump.
Tom, glad you weren't busy when you were summoned to the park... lol Awesome video! Great coaching and great flying Kara!
I think one of the biggest problems with beginners is the position on the bike. They tend to stay to tall and it is hard to adapt to the motion on the bike at different speeds. I would not get in to the pop or any other details. I would start with the first setup (the long rollin), get the weight of the rider lower (flex them legs a bit more and keep the but over the rear axle) and hit the jumps at different speeds (increase the number of crancks or the lengts from the start to the ramp). Cheers Tom ! Thanks for the cool videos.
Great video. I definitely recommend playing around with skills such as manuals, endos. Practicing the endo will help with getting used to scooping the back wheel up. Great progression though
Kara you're so brave, much better than I do as a strong guy, keep it up !
Really well done Kara and training from the master 👍👍👍
My advice to Kara was to practice manuals and hops maybe on the manual machine then you can take those skills and basically hop of the lip with a manual making sure to straighten those arms of yours!
Also, push through the jump to help you get that pop!
For sure!
@@TomCardy Looks like Kara has all the help she needs, But get her to a foam pit or more air bag sessions?
Other than that, when will you get her back flipping?
I’m at a similar stage to Kara myself tbh, it’s having the confidence to lean back which is scary (for me anyway) ✌️🤣
same place bro lol
She's coming on but then she has a good teacher,good job. Stay safe out there
Some decent progression there, I found learning the bunny hop helped get more height on jumps. Have you considered doing any jump specific strength and conditioning/agility training with Kara? Plyometrics and sprints would transfer greatly for pedaling power and getting that pop
I feel like for all the other beginner jumpers (which I am) what has really helped my progress is standing tall then dropping ur weight and getting a good pump before the jump or bunny hop. Cheers 🤙
I’m glad it’s helped ☺️
I love that bike colour set up. Its sick
Stronger wrists, Kara. Making good progress, and that's a pretty good coach you've got yourself there! Nice content, Tom.
Way to go! That's awesome progression!
Having bought a Hopper lite based on your videos and Sam's etc, it's actually quite daunting, it looks easy, but we'll done to Kara for hitting it. I haven't hit it yet as I'm trying to get down the right technique.
On a side note, not sure about the B and Q's but we're expecting increases in timber prices next month, if you still had some to buy
Was a good idea, I think Kara is getting a fast track on jumping bikes with always hanging out with you and Sam but she often looked like a passenger on her bike while hitting bigger stuff and relying a lot on the suspension.
I’ve always been taught to ‘squish and pop’ before a jump.... doing well though Kara. You’ve got an awesome coach there 😉
That's awesome I'm a beginner and this video definitely helps a lot, tnaankss😝❤ ps keep up the good work!
Doesn't matter how hard you pull if you don't preload by bending the knees more coming into the jump. If you watch Tom's slow motion, that preload is just a fraction of a second before the jump. For most people it is much slower. Best way to learn that is to practice getting the maximum height on the tiniest jump.
Looks to me n I've noticed on most ur jumps as I notice it with my wifes jumps. U seem to hit the jump with dead weight.. the hoop at the lip like cardy said is important... great work regardless 👏 👍 👌
I love/hate filming myself as im learning jumps. Thats because when I feel ive nailed it and got good height 😁 i watch back and see how the reality of my jump was not quite how it felt/played out in my head 😔
Would be cool to see her take on the bunny hop high bar you made. Improving there could help her jumping, as well as give something to measure progress with in a follow up video a few months down the track.
Good stuff guys... very logical and sequentially well thought out 👍🏻 Thanks for the awesome tips.... ramps are for just doing bunny hops off... I’ll remember that one Tom. Be great if you guys could make it to Australia to ride some different trails and urban mayhem. Make Pilgs pay for the tickets please.
Progression session nice job KJ 🤙🏼
One thing I've noticed is that kara is hitting the top of her pop halfway up the ramp where as Tom is boosting right through the lip and doesn't reach full extension till he well into the air.
I love the 3rd person perspective and the tips and adjustments. Any chance you could do flat ground bunny hops? that's been my focus for many months, and would love some more tips :)
Tom is almost certainly a better rider but a qualified coach will be able to break down and explain everything better which is ultimately more helpful but really I learned to jump by just watching my mates and trying
He is, and his bunny hop video is one of the best ones, but the dynamic of seeing someone who isn’t dialed in yet get pointers really helps
Nice work..and my point of view. It's not only pulling! You need to push on the handlebar and then pull like in a bunnyhop (and like Tom is showing in the video) otherwise your body is not in the right position and you are going to pull only with the arms and not with the bodiweight. It takes time and confidence buiding and I'm still learning because it is scary... Well done anyway!
Yeah, it looks to me like Tom pushes the bars away at the base of the jump, so he has more space to pull the bars back towards him at the top of the jump.
@@mattgies not at the base in general but the arms must be fully extended at the end of the lip... I'm still working on this even if on a bigger ramp... This is a small ramp so maybe it seems he started at the base but on a longer lips it must be timed correctly otherwise you crash
Trying to progress my girls, the older two are 9 and 11, been riding flats for 5 years. Tecently got them some new 26" wheel proper bikes, ultra small frames, hydraulic brakes. No sus. Light weight 20lb bikes, so they can learn bike handling and gain some skills.
Took them down a red trail (no forced jumps, or drops) at walking speed so they could see the obstacles then had some guy bollock me that I should have bought them full sus bikes before doing the trail. Bollocks. Bikes didn't have sus when I learned to ride, and the weight advantage made them easy to throw about! Your thoughts....?
I am a terrible jumper but it seems to me that being aware of when the rear wheel is clear of the ramp lip is very important. Once the rear wheel is clear of the ramp you can use the bottom bracket as the pivot point rather than attempting to lower the front too early and finding yourself doing a front wheelie and then OTB!
The coaching at bike park Wales is next level, not saying that your not good enough to teach her
I wouldn't want to try to teach my girlfriend! That's a fight waiting to happen.
@@grakkerful😂😂😂
How much a session.
Thank you for share the technic
Nice tips! I'm going to try what you said too! Is this what you were filming yesterday when I rode past?
kara is lucky. she has a master to teach her! but sick to see how fast she is progressing even so!
Thanks 🙏🏼
Pump tracks are great to learn to jump, helpfull for balence when doing maneys and learning to pop of the jumps. And your speed is controled by your pumping so it teaches you to flow better if your trying to clear stuff and get a bit looser on the bike. Pluss there a great workout. 🥵👍
Great video tho the side slowmo realy helps to show the technique.
Wish I had a teacher as hood as you tom.! Great tutorial as well
Cheers man!
Tom cardy is hood af!
Any chance you can come to the most north easterly point in the uk and teach me how to jump? 🙂
(It is actually pretty cool knowing your bike it the most north easterly bike in the uk 🤣)
Kara is so funny and cute 😂😂
11:30-11:45 Kara straight zoned out
I can now do bunny hops on flat grounds but still cant do it on jumps. i don't really understand the "lean back/pull more" thing. I guess it all goes down to repetition? darn i really wish i could bunny hop on jumps.
Look up O.O as to were your flight path is and not the ground as you about to get airborne then row your arms in the air like in a rowing boat. You will get the confident feel of air and sea before you hit land.
I'd say Kara is doing really good however she is looking a bit like a passenger on her bike. She is actually squishing the jump a lot too. That is, she isn't jumping off of the ramp. She is just rolling and using the angle of the ramp to go up. Then she keeps her body as low as possible and bends her knees up as she takes off. Learning to jump is scary though. Personally, I think drills are a better way to get better technique. Two that helped me, that might help others are; 1) practice manual bunny hops. That is, manual for a split second and then jump off the rear wheel before the front wheel comes down. When you get good at this, do it a meter or so before a gutter and hop up the gutter. So roll towards a gutter, manual about a meter from the gutter and then jump through the feet just before the rear wheel hits the gutter. This will really get you to lift the wheel to a good spot and then jump the whole bike up from the rear wheel with the bike in a good wheel up position. 2) Set the ramp up in front of a higher landing (above the lip) to force the rider to lift the wheel up to clear the landing and actually make them jump higher or risk running into the front of the landing. For the first ramp angle, the landing might be 40cm higher than the lip. It's basically a step up with the landing quite close to the take off.
Just want to add, Kara is doing so well (taking advice, pushing herself, hearing criticism, and just improving so much) and Tom is doing an awesome job to share his knowledge/stoke. Love the channel guys. Keep it coming!
She basically does what a pro rider would do to go fast DH , you see them squish the jump cos airtime slows them down , she’s doing well but it still looks like she just lets gravity take control of the whole jump
Tom as you’re personal trainer very nice 👍
I find it hard timing the scoop & ramp angle can change your timing like you/she said.
Best coach is 0 fear and repetition. I taught my self to dj and ride and both have my own style different from the rest .
When I land my jumps it seems to be a lot more violent than any vids I watch, my wrists definitely take the brunt of it any tips?
Stay safe...👍
The way I see it kara is no longer just a passenger jumping on the bike. She's actually riding the lip and pushing through it. Progress is only gonna keep going up and up its so sick!
Can you do it on a full suss please, as the rear then behaves differently.
Anyone else notice how cute Kara is?
She is way better than i am !!
“It’s gonna take years” >.
I thought the mtb hopper coach was the best ramp for learning, not the lite?
Sick coach👌🤙
Cheers man!
"we need to pop it" Tom, are you listening? haha
0:13 I see, Kara skipped the magicing ramp into shape and went straight to magicing people into place.
I feel too old and discouraged at 32, so I just watch videos of other people enjoying themselves on their bikes...
32? 😂😂😂 I’m 65 and learned to jump last summer. C’mon. 😂
Am i the only one to be surprised that mountain biking is so popular in the UK?
I totally appreciate karas learning and is making great progess but it feels like a vid for her channel.....
So if the main part of the jump is the bunny hop. Shouldn’t you be teaching her how to bunny hop first? Get that perfected and then move to the jump?
Loosen up in the air dont look so stiff thats my advice for kara!!!
Just pull up and lean back more but amazing progression!!
Get him to 100k subs
>>>push into the lip before you pull on the bars
It looks like Kara's arms are too bent at the lip to be able to pull the bars up, maybe approach with straighter arms and lean back more to get the pull.. Stand up wheelies might help with getting the motion 🤷♂️ great effort nonetheless! 👍
The dream
Thanks buddy
@@TomCardy no problem bro thx for the vid
Try to get the tenseness in your body to relax a bit more and make it simpler for you,
Why don’t you teach her how to bunny hop first. I’m pretty sure she can’t even do that.🤣
Yooooo Tom 🔥 how r u
Get to dyfi and start blasting the trail's the bike park test's rider's of all skill level's and a bit of coaching from the Atherton's would definately push Kara to new level's
Why not be honest tom.and tell Kara that she is not moving from the waist up,she is crouched right from run in to landing. You know she has to stand up so why not tell her?
I think you should teach her a bunnyhop first🤣
I can’t rlly see the difference from the first day and the last gi
Using an e bike for a starter is crazy. The weight is just too much, especially learning to jump, sticking with the jump
Bike will be far easier
Not sure this is the safest/best way to learn/teach..... where is the compression/Pre-load of the bike before the jump....? Just bunny hopping a jump is not a cool way to learn.... upper body is way stiff and could lead to over or under rotating in the air... just sayin...!!
Tom you need to be a bit more brutally honest
Exactly.
Agree,.
My like is for the beautiful Kara , good day to you
Tom can you coach me 😂
for anyone ACTUALLY wanting to learn better jumping, watch barry nobles' video on how to jump.
Oh bunny hop cardboard boxes in a car park. Thats fun. See how high you can get
But she can drop a step down easyly maybe
Is that Tony Hawk with an accent?
If she pumps into the takeoff she will be able to boost it
Maybe just me - but the bike looks tiny!