Thats exactly what it is. Even in the GRE, the essays are loaded with useless information. In most cases you probably could eliminate 2 or 3 of the options in the answers and find the most minute difference in the most credible answer.
That was terrible English. As a rule, English tends towards simplicity. And yeah, I know, complicated weirdo language, but this reeked of translation, not fluency.
Not at all, all you have to do is understanding the text, not thinking about some philosophical topic, so this is simply a quite hard foreign language test ^^
Only know Ned, he was a chemist, used to work at renewable energy lab if i'm not mistaken, but doing standups at night...matter of choice I think..not everyone know what they want to do when choosing major anyway, so...
I feel like the questions looked hard because of how much repetitive and unnecessary information they had even though they weren't asking much. They are just questions that would really screw over those who are in the process of learning English because of how unnecessarily over complicated thy are.
The strange fact is that some of my korean friends who have recieved high scores on this test cannot properly speak a single sentence at all.They've all got less than 2 questions or fewer wrong on this test(which is the score that only 4% of the total students has acquired)...but I still have communication problems with them.They don't learn english.They study hard as frick and forgets the most of it when they finish the test.
Johnny Sanderman That is because the English learning is based on reading and comprehension rather than that and speaking. Really there is no point in learning English in Korea. Learn from learning websites where there are tutors to help you speak
I'm a professor in SK. It's not even about comprehension. The English portion of the 수능 (Korean CSAT) is all about vocab and grammar structure memorization. Students often study HOW to take the test rather than the content itself. This test basically does the same thing that every other high stakes test does; it measures how well you study and how good you are at taking tests. There are very few practical applications to these types of tests.
I'm sure Korea did that too, you are comparing two things which don't have the same thing in common. I could do the same: America: Spends 6 hours at school Korea: Gangnam Style
The foreign language section, huh? Okay, I get that these are supposed to be some of the harder questions, but I thought the point of language was effective communication in everyday situations. These aren't questions that are going to help with communication skills. These are questions that, unless they can look at them and analyze, even native English speakers won't understand.
I understood pretty well, but that's because I'm used to thinking up abstract concepts and going into the deep territory of the metaphysical (along with philosophical) in my essays that I would write. ^^;; For the average person, I assume it'd be like trying to understand Middle English back when it was more Germanic and no practical resemblance to its modern version we use today.
I found them pretty easy too. I just skipped the video to where the whole questions were shown and chose the correct ones in less than 30secs. The wording may be convoluted but the idea behind it is simple.
ok well congratulations to you two who solved it but imagine someone that is fluent in another language with a completely different vocabulary and grammatical structure trying to figure this out? i think thats the point of this video lol
They asked the company who made it, and it was black and blue. Some people just couldn't see the true colors in the photo due to their eyes not entirely catching the way the lighting was reflecting the clothes, so the brain processed whatever.
[A typical example] English : I'm hungry. Korea SAT : Essentially, all living things on Earth have various essential conditions for living as organic organisms, and this can often be divided into three in terms of 'desire'. This is divided into appetite, sleep bath, and sexual desire. Here, appetite is the desire to eat food, and all living metabolic activities take food and get energy to act as living things. Nowadays, I don't eat foods that are evenly mixed with carbohydrates, proteins, and fats for a long period of time, and I am very exhausted, lacking energy, and greatly hindering my daily life. If I continue to suppress 'appetite' and maintain this situation, I will inevitably have to eat foods that contain high energy, as my life will cease. 진짜 수능보기 존나 싫다
The sad thing is, even if you're that good in these test, it doesn't matter. Because this isn't how normal people talk and you couldn't speak a sentence or speak in general without problems. You don't need this as basic English
Well this is like the majority of electives you take in college. Some of them you don't even need and they take up your time all the same when you could be focusing on your core classes.
It's not meant to be used. It's an elaborate intelligence and fortitude test. It's meant to answer two questions. Is the person clever? Is the person industrious? And it succeeds. Plus, if you have a generally high quality of students such questions are necessery, otherwise at the top marks some students who can answer such difficult stuff would be placed at the same level as others that don't, which is unfair.
Yes it does in the long run. Getting into a good college in Korea means getting a good paying job. No one studies this to be able to use it in their daily conversations. In the end of the day, students study hard to make their parents proud and return something back to their parents that invested so much into their futures. THIS is the main reason ppl suicide, from the guilt of not being able to repay their parent's hard work through educational success.
Now I know why Koreans are having a hard time in the English Language. Their educational system has a difficult test questions when you can actually simplify those sentences to make it more convenient and not complicated.
Exactly! growing up in korea as a student is thankfully something i was lucky enough to avoid. the english education there is just downright ridiculous
Yeah nobody would say that because the text is not getting straight to the point. In both of those questions you could cut out at least a couple sentences. Nobody needs to be that specialized in English unless that's your profession. Rule of thumb if your foreign language exam is harder than what native speakers would've taken it may be too hard.
I love how each sentence of the question goes from something highly analytical and scientific sounding to something that came from the mouth of Shakespeare and Emerson's love child lmao.
I am a Korean high school senior who is currently studying for this. What they solved are quite old, when all of the fill-in-the-blank questions were difficult af. The level of difficulty has been adjusted a bit and we have fewer questions than it used to be, but they're still giving us hard times. I don't get the point of testing our English level in this way and it makes me sad that we don't have any alternative. :( P.S. Those paragraphs are mostly from real theses and English books. Just to make it clear for the people who believe that these are written by some mad Koreans.
English is a hard enough language in and of itself already, so for those questions to be so philosophical and wordy is completely unfair to students. To tell the truth, the only time you will see writing like that is either on standardized tests or in books. No one speaks like that really and it'd be a pain if they did since they would never have their point or opinion clearly understood. From a writing perspective there's a rule I've come across: if the word can be taken out, it wasn't needed. And those paragraphs were *laced* with fluff. I have to ask, what are the tests like now? Are they any better to deal with or do you have more leeway?
Wait, does fewer questions makes it harder? Since each questions will count more and if you miss one question, it will affect the grade in a pretty bad way.
American foreign language questions: "count to 10 in your target language" South Korean foreign language questions: "journey's are the midwives of thought"
True, lol. I been blessed by the universe by being a Mexican student. I'm not an Einstein who easily answers everything, but school isn't that difficult for me since I give my very best, and I get good grades because of that. Anyways, I think I would also be one of those students who kill themselves, lol. I don't think I would really survive. You have to apply so many freaking skills for five days in a row with like a thousand hours of just studying.
As someone with an English degree who had to go through technical writing and editing, I know these paragraphs are absolute garbage. They are filled with loaded words and imprecise vocabulary just to throw off the reader. At no point in time would this ever be useful unless for some reason you had to solve some crazy riddles because your life depends on it.
Lillian Smith well it’s not really testing one’s ability of speaking the language. It’s really just testing your problem solving skills and picking out the students that study and work hard.
But it doesn't properly test their problem solving skills if the paragraphs are filled with weird wording and imprecise vocabulary. I read journal articles and other academic-level work all the time, and these paragraphs were strange.
최예나 judging from the name, ur Korean. And I just wanna say that my heart goes out to u n the fellow students there. No wonder suicide rate is high in ur country.
(I'm korean.)In fact, we don't read whole sentence. To get over 90(A),it is almost impossible to read all those sentences carefully in time.we just read the whole sentence roughly and solve the problem by finding topic sentence. Maybe you think it's very hard and useless,but every year,one or two people always correct every question on those useless and difficult tests. Our country is teaching english not for speaking and learning different culture. It's just for classifying students who are smart or not.(only in studying...) That's why our country's exam is extremely difficult.
Korean students would benefit so much more though if they were able to speak proper english. There are other ways to test the intelligence and logic of students.
English will be the banned of my existence, if this kind of education being implemented in my country. I thought learning language helps you have the upper hand to find better job or widen the opportunity. However, I wouldn't wonder anymore that English maybe is a subject which being hated the most in S.Korea.
Charlotte Katakuri uhh I think it really depends on the school you're attending and the professor you have tbh. Studiare letteratura inglese è stato davvero illuminante per me e sinceramente in quinta al classico posso dire di essere felicissima di quello che so di inglese, sia dal punto di vista della lingua dato che ho il c1 (considera che non sono neanche mai andata all'estero quindi tutto quello che so è preso da internet e dalla scuola), sia dal punto di vista culturale. quindi davvero dipende dai prof e dall'indirizzo (dato che non ne sono sicurissima ma credo che alcuni indirizzi non facciano letteratura ma un inglese più specifico per il percorso). poi che il sistema scolastico italiano faccia schifo è verissimo ma è un altro discorso ahaha
Trust me, Koreans can understand english pretty well. As long as someone isn't speaking super fast, they will understand. as for pronunciation, they tend to have difficulties pronouncing certain words and letters because the korean alphabet doesn't have certain sounds like the "F" and "z" sounds.
Knight Deva I'm a Vietnamese high school student and we study about 12-13 hours a day. 10 hours at school and 2-3 hours at home( or even more when we have test). We only have 5- 6 hours to sleep, then wake up at 6am to go to school and go home at 9 or 10pm 😫
I've heard that English professors from universities all over Korea make the test. One of them used to be a prof at Oxford. The funny thing is tho he failed to solve his own problems years later after he retired
For the Korean SAT, or Suneung, they recruit a bunch of professors every year and lock them up in who-knows-where for a couple of months before the test. They don't get to come out until the test is finished, literally. No contact with the outside or whatsoever. TV and newspapers are allowed, but nothing which allows mutual communication. I've heard they are allowed phone calls with their family under supervision.
America: Hey, you know where the supermarket is? I want to get some bread Korea: Greetings, stranger. Are you conscious of the locality of the emporium? I shall request any nourishment.
Its pretty much to eliminate but all who don't completely understand English since there are so many people they have to take drastic measures in decreasing the most utter educated ones in order to eliminate "less" intelligent" out.
I've attended high ranked prestigious unis in both the States and Australia, and most of our readings in any course, ranging from law to psych, are written in this sort of format: extremely dense, verbose and sometimes pretentious. It's not practical for the everyday person, but if you hope to attain higher levels of education, being able to decipher such literature is crucial.
bangtan tho it's basically those questions that say what is ____ to same as black is to white. The answer could be "different, opposite" etc because black and white are opposites or different or maybe even contrast, but it has to relate to the word
So I teach English in Korea at an academy for adults, and I was really surprised when I found out these are the kinds of tests they take IN HIGH SCHOOL, because most of these 20something year olds come to my conversation classes unable to form basic sentences. Something in their English education system is really wrong and has to change. I love Korea but this is one thing I detest and hear Koreans complain about all the time. But no one does anything about it.
The Q-Tip J-Hope throws in the YNWA Preview Show they way i see it is that whole purpose of thier high school is to get into a good college and nothing else. I have heard that American colleges are harder on average than Korean ones, but high school is not comparable.
From my own experience in Korea, I could say that pretty much only those who have studied abroad, not necessarily the English-speaking countries, can speak decently. Most of the students in my university said that speaking practice wasn't a very common thing. They do know the grammar probably better than a native speaker. I would compare this situation to being really good at solving math problems, but being unable to explain the used solution in words step by step, without getting stuck for too many times. They seem to be way preoccupied with the actual score (numbers or what not) rather than purpose of learning in general :/
I heard they don't have problems with understanding English on paper, it's just that they don't or barely practice speaking it in classes, just what I heard.
You see, Korea started teaching english to children AFTER the 2000's, and people who are at least 20 years old probably started learning english in middle school. and i am 100% pure Korean, and I can speak, listen and write english with NO problem
If any korean high school students are reading this comment, you have my wholehearted respect and support✊🏾✨ Please don’t push yourselves too hard ok?💚
RAWRsynchro I don't think that's so surprising considering BuzzFeed being one of the biggest in the media field. So of course they pick up the best people. Like a big MNC would choose the most qualified, so same thing.
beemobile98 I feel like Iamstarter is right, and no I'm not a native English speaker. However I feel like the tests that I took in secondary school were also very large texts that made us fill in the correct phrase and once you practise that it becomes a lot easier. I'm not saying the Korean students should be able to do this easily, but I am saying that with proper help, these questions can become a whole lot easier
We have to solve about 26 questions in 50 minutes which makes us need to solve a question for no longer than 2 minutes. Try answering the questions and isolate what you need to. You would probably not have enough time and panic when you still have alot of questions left but no time left.
Honestly my heart hurts for the students in Korea, way too much focus is placed on test scores and education to the point that it is unhealthy. Kids should not have to grow up feeling like their whole world depends on what results a piece of paper gets them. I have one friend that said when she grew up in Korea she was usually at the bottom of her *high school* classes and was considered to not be too smart, yet when she moved to the U.S. for *university* she was easily a top student in her uni. The difference in difficulty is no joke. I get that education is important, but Korea's really reached a point of being far too extreme. It is not healthy for the children. The amount of students that commit suicide after doing their college entrances exams says it all, it's like they're made to feel that the score determines their entire life and this is a mentality that their society really needs to stop encouraging.
DestatiXIII I 100% agree with u. I'm in high school and I'm a straight A student and I had difficulty with the questions in this video. I get that education is important, but there has to be a balance between hard work and enjoying life and having fun. Balance is the key to a healthy lifestyle. Maybe South Korea can understand that one day. I also truly feel sorry for the students there
American kids are healthy and happy? huh? USA is massive and rich in resource and that is why we have so many obese people and our top engineers come from abroad but S Korea is small with no resources so they have to work hard
It's a huge unfortunate problem, but it's what kept the country ahead of almost the whole world. All that so everyone can have their 4G phones, special cars, breakthroughs in biotechnology, etc. That being said, I don't think "spoiling" people like most aspects of mid-class+ USA would be any better. I think It'll only make people more prone to being sensitive and maybe "suicidal". Geez, I remember hearing a classmate of mine saying something like "If I don't become a gamer, I'll kill myself".
Koreans don't even speak, read, watch, listen, and write in English regularly, what makes exam-makers think they'll be able to understand such abstract concepts?
JVee Veneracion If youre an above average student, you'll read, write, practice, and listen to English everyday. English is just one of the many subjects you need to study for school.
it's different if the language is not your primary language and you don't get exposed to it at all. TV shows and movies in Korea are in Korean or Western with Korean subtitles. When I was 25, I had a 32 year old student who was a middle school English teacher in Korea. She's the teacher and yet she needs my help improving her English. How ridiculous is that? She also told me that English classes are taught in Korean.
Agree. I think the reason most Asian countries aren't adept in using conversational English is because of the lack of exposure, or any opportunities to even use the language. Even the fact that they use their native language during English classes, and even majority of their classes, makes it less effective for any actual application of the language. (I found it amazing to compare that only about 2 or 3 out of the 8 subjects here are taught in the native language, and the rest is all in English)
Well, wouldn't it make sense for it to be taught in Korean? A beginning English learner wouldn't understand any grammar had it been taught in English - especially with Korean being so different grammatically from English.
it's weird that the average korean can't speak English properly and some can't even form a single sentence, when they learn it in such a high standard in school.
2011 korean sat english section was worst thing in any history. it was my test. when i saw test page, i felt WTF. For just normal student like me, Test time was in hell. I couldn't understand many sentences with little nervous. i took 72/100 score.
Earning good money in a job that is fun. In other words, hitting the jackpot for young people starting out in a career. Billions of us have jobs that are less well paid and boring and/or arduous. Their schooling has absolutely paid off.
Miguel T They get payed well, Buzzfeed probably wants like more intelligent-y for more videos.They many people in Buzzfeed, Intelligent ones to know about photoshopping, editing, and creating.
UC Berkeley is totally understandable, even expected. For real though i'm sure buzzfeed make a lot of money and pay "journalists" a lot of money to do relatively fun work.
To be honest, you only need to concentrate on the before and the after line of the blank to find the answer. The rest of it are just trying to puzzle you up.
Not necessarily. If you went back to the first question, and read the sentence after the blank, it was actually the sentence that most likely caused the confusion.
Totally, you skim and, if you are allowed, highlight things that seem important the rest is just garbage filler!(This also works for unnecessarily wordy math problems)
For me, the worst part about the issues with Korea's educational system is that after years and years of studying, going to English academies, etc. the average Korean person cannot fluently hold a conversation in English! It seems like in most cases they aren't being taught enough about conversational English (which is much more useful in the real world), and the pressure surrounding them taking this test is really for naught. Your foreign language score on your "SAT" isn't as useful as legitimate skill in speaking the language. I have an issue with standardized tests all around the world, though. They put too much focus on scores, and the energy being spent in the classroom is no longer about real education, it's primarily focused on test taking strategies.
A couple of UA-cam teachers in Korea explained that the teachers want the students to get the answer as it is written on the answer sheet even if the answer is wrong. In mathematical terms, if the answer sheet says that 2+2 is 5, then every South Korean student must learn that 2+2 is 5.
When the education system is already that tough and competitive, the Korean students learn just enough English to pass these tests. They don't study English because they want to.
I'm Korean and I can fluently speak and make conversations in English. If a Korean studies in the right environment (such as other people than their tutor speaking english) Koreans can learn pretty quickly. Although I _have_ been studying english for almost 6 years now... hm.
I was in china during the final testing for high school and I was so surprised to learn more about it. To know that people will actually commit suicide if they don't pass because if you don't pass you won't really go anywhere in life. That's terrifying for me
H Hughes Doesn’t mean they all do, and that’s because they find their own path. “Land of abundance and opportunity” as they say. If the opportunity is present, would you not grab hold?
The thing is, in an English-speaking country you'd be penalised for writing like that. It's overly obtuse, verbose, and fails the basic premise of language, that is communicating a meaning concisely. It's clearly a prestige thing rather than an issue of practicality.
It most certainly is not. Even if what you said is indeed the basic premise of language, being able to do just that won't help you much in understanding scientific literature, where there are going to be as many writing styles (however ineffective they may be) as there are authors. So, for college goers, it most likely is an issue of practicality.
You did not communicate concisely, either. You used 'overly' to modify 'verbose' (an adjective that signifies an excessive use of words), creating the meaning: "It's overly using more words than are needed". Remember, academic language is often verbose, so in a sense, the test is more practical than you think it is. In academia, it is encouraged to use complex sentence syntax and sophisticated lexis because it can help exhibit deeper understanding.
Colloquially, "verbose" can be positive or negative (although yes, the dictionary definition is strictly negative) so "overly" serves as a qualifier to signify the negative usage. My sentence was fine. A lot of you are saying "but academic literature!!" to which I say, if your academic literature reads like this than you are picking some very poor authors. Use of jargon and complex vocabulary is one thing - many academic papers do employ an incredible amount of industry-specific terminology, which can be quite dense - but the example questions shown in this video do not fail on that front, but rather, upon the basic stumbling blocks that are sentence structure and clarity of thought.
Korean students : spent 13 hours of studying per day and said "6 hours of sleep is already more than enough" Meanwhile me : sleep 7-9 hours each night and not even studying at all. And still complaining about not getting enough sleep and how i tired i am the next day
How the hell are these questions going to prepare them for everyday life? I'm a native English speaker and I don't know ANYONE who speaks like that in casual conversations.
deadeaded Sure, but being able to hold a conversation is more challenging than reading. Most people can understand a language sooner than they're able to speak it. I can tell you one thing from my travels to Asia: The poorer the country, the better its people's English. I was able to converse with Cambodian kids, but I couldn't find one regular person in Japan who understood, "Excuse me, do you know where [insert place] is?" The only people who spoke English there were employees of the public transportation company.
same I'll just ask my seatmate what's the answer on that super long confusing question and Idc if he or she have given me the wrong or right answer I'll write anything just to get over it.
I teach Korean students at a private academy in South Korea. Of course, the low-level conversation stuff, is easy. But, when they get to a certain age, it's overwhelmingly hard. I'm teaching TOEFL and TOEIC to Middle school students (even though they are meant for college students). Some of the material is just too difficult. It's almost downright ridiculous. Also, another thing to keep in mind is, the students that go to an afterschool academy most likely goes to several (English, Music and Math among the most frequent). Some of my students are so exhausted. I feel bad for them. I have asked some of them "what do you like to do in your free-time' and the response was this: "Teacher, what free-time?"
Chris Layfield I hope you don't add onto their stress buy giving them a lot of work and homework. And then not expect them not to responded with that answer. Feeling bad for them does not help them.
only elementary kids attend music lol i am korean middle school student and i go 2 math, 2 science, korean, english. this is not much, but i attend math from 5:30 to 1 o clock (AM) and also science. I do science university physics and chemistry and i do KSAT korean and english is TOEFL and i do math olympiad. It is normal for kids in daehi dong and gangnam so normal and i am little bit mediocre in comparison to other kids. also, school exams are extremely hard in gangnam so.... I do this to get into good high school
Not to mention South Korea is home to a rather unique form of bullying which I'm sure as a teach you're aware of. Back when I was in college in one of my design classes we were given the challenge of designing a social issue campaign for another country, and I was told to address wang-tta in South Korea. The purpose of the project was to teach us that not all cultures are the same and that we cannot simply execute our own approaches and beliefs. We had to reach out to people who actually live and work in the culture, and I was met with a lot of hostility because the Korean teachers thought I was trying to push American ideals on them, which I wasn't.
Lmao haha. But Asians are smart, especially east asia.... I'm Asian but Namjoon is damn smart bro. He learned english through watching a show and korean and english have different grammar and it's difficult. Namjoon is probably Albert Einstein in past life...
αииιкα 549 whenever people say asians are smart... they are disregarding their hard work. if all american kids studied like this of COURSE we’d get better grades and more people would think we were smart. that’s not to say that asians aren’t smart, but it could be offensive to people who try extremely hard to have success
David Wang That's because the words were translated to english. If you were Korean you would be able to understand more cleary. However the words they use on these tests are very hard so it is a struggle
I hate how a single letter grade defines you. My Spanish always blames us students for everything and seems to have never given an A in her whole life.
Most, if not all education systems around the world are broken; with standardised testing, obsession with grades and student competition. Never has education been so utterly depressing and downright ludicrous.
This is the kind of Buzzfeed videos I like to see; the ones with a meaning behind them rather than finding out if it's possible to "float on mashed potatoes"
you would probably find it ridiculous in spoken language, but not in writing. Did you ever read anything remotely philosophical? it can get so much worse than the questions in this video. This test is about reading comprehension at a very high level, not about understanding spoken language.
Exactly. And that is what motivates them to be suicidal. Those questions are ridiculous. Even native English speakers might have a hard time answering that correctly.
it's not a simple test, it's an SAT-equivalent, it decides who gets into university and who doesn't. if you find yourself completely unable to answer this test even though you go through hours of excessive studying every day, you simply aren't fit for university and you should have been sorted out way before you could succumb to the pressure of a test like this. The cause for the high suicidality is most likely not the difficulty-level of the test, but the general attitude in korea: They conflate self-worth with academic achievement and force students that clearly don't have sufficient mental faculties through this rigurous testing process. To be more concise, the test raises the bar very high, for sure, but these high standards aren't the problem: The problem is that they want to apply these standards to every single student, even in cases where it is clear that the students will be unable to fulfill their expectations. THAT is the problem. Hard tests aren't bad as long as you give them to an appropriate group.
The prevailing Korean attitude toward sleep baffles. What's the point of skipping sleep to study when prolonged sleep deprivation causes brain damage???
being raised korean myself (and I'm still a student) the whole mentality that is very common is that doing well in school, getting good marks, and getting into a prestigious college determines your worth as a person. I've spent many nights studying instead of sleeping or even making dinner/meals, not to mention some korean schools have almost twelve hour days. a majority of free time is spent studying for big tests such as the toeic, 대학수학능력시험, ect. it's such a difference from american culture :/
Threadbare Threnody you wouldn't get it since, I'm just guessing you're not Korean. As a Korean myself the system is hard. If we don't spend all day studying you can never be smarter than your classmates, and to go to a good college you need high scores. Going to a good college is a life goal and if we don't go to a good college our future is literally just going down a drain.
+tae jeon I do understand where you are coming from because I spent half of my student life in Taiwan (the rest in America). But what +Threadbare Threnody is trying to say is that lack of sleep results in lowered, and often times damaged, cognitive skills. He doesn't understand why a nation so focused on academic success would purposefully sabotage its own mandate through sleep deprivation. Scientifically it has been shown in many studies the damaging effects of not getting enough rest on cognitive functions (which are necessary to succeed academically).
Potato I'm guessing you're not in a Asian education system? Because trust me unless you're some genius brought upon this earth u can't survive in the Korean education system with 0 hours of study.
Being as one Korean student, these are not meant to test English skills but just problem-solving skills and big terminologies IMAO. In the real test, we have 25~30 questions like these in the video and have to solve it UNDER 1 minute per questions. As a result, we just memorize imprecise vocabularies as if we’re a dictionary. Of course, most of the students aren’t able to speak well. Everyone knows that this isn't good and must be changed but no one tries to change this and just studies cuz they have to go university unless they’re going to be a Blue-collar worker. Actually, it’s hard to have a part-time job if u aren't even a freshman. Too bad for today's students.
B.K. MCPE how exactly does this test your problem-solving skills man? I honestly thought India's education system was crazy(I still think so actually) . But this doesn't even make sense
@@prathyasteeacharya1899 - these questions test your ability to take a test. the students go to academies where they learn not how to speak but how to take the test. there are certain strategies and tactics in figuring out these sorts of problems (and memorizing useless vocabulary words at a rate of almost 100 a day). they have this stuff down to a science. It's like SAT prep classes like Princeton Review or KUMON but on steroids.
Of course there's a link between self worth and academic success in SK. If you do poorly in school, your entire future is gone. That's why a lot of the suicides are from newly graduated students. They performed poorly on their university entrance exam and it's like watching your future go down the drain. Eight year olds in SL are committing suicide, Elementary school aged children. You hire tutors to tutor your tutor so that you can be tutored. And it doesn't help when the older generation thinks that the new generation is doing so bad because they're lazy. The older generation grew up during an economic boom and got established, but now everything is so competitive. People are working for little to nothing just to be able to do something they love. They call it "Passion pay" you get paid by working in field related to your degree. Most people in South Korea have given up on relationships, marriage, kids, houses and a social life due to the job market. There's even a term for the generation that has given up those 5 things.
Wah Deureumna Asian Parents don't exactly understand that "U HAVE TO B LAWYA OR DOCTOR OR LAWYA AND U GET A GUD FAMIRY" but these days, technology rules the most. I mean look at Bill Gates. Fcking billionaire just from him coding in his childhood.
Sunanda Gupta just because you only get 5 doesn't mean it's decent or healthy. You're supposed to get 8 hours at night. Did you know that? So tack three whole goddamn hours off of that. Still sound decent?
I am an ESL/EFL teacher in Korea currently and have been for the last seven years. The pressure these kids experience (starting from even kindergarten) is insane. My elementary-high school students are always hungry because they barely have time to eat. Once they reach their last year in high school, they are in school until 11pm or later (a teacher is there with them - they do shift work) so they can do homework and busy work under supervision. I have also read questions from their Suneung exam (the BIG test that they kill themselves over for uni admittance) and, just as it 's shown in the video, they are purposefully written using irregular or specialized vocabulary that would throw off any native speaker. Sentence structures are made as complicated as possible. Not even our textbooks in colleges back in the US are written in this manner and obviously no one speaks like this. Who writes these exam questions? Do they have a soul?
It's not like RM became good at the language as a result of the education system. Like most non native English speakers he learned and became good at English by watching English TV shows which I admit is probably the fastest and most efficient way to learn and become good at English. I learned English using those methods after all.
I took my korean sat last year I only slept 4.5 hours and studied more than 18 hours each day to prepare But i was sick that day, obviously i fucked up I was suffering from the text result, I literally cried for weeks (I'm fine now) Its such a big deal in Korea that even airplanes are not allowed to fly for the English listening test Bc there's only one chance on one day in Korea The whole point is to learn but education systems already forgot And some of Korean do really well on the test but still find it hard to carry a simple conversation in English! Wth Ugh I have a lot more to say, but I'll stop😂 If you wanna know more about Korean sat or something ask me!
Ahh its such a waste since they do really well on the test but cant carry a conversation with it. They can undersand the language already if they can answer those kind of questions too. Your comment is super interesting
hiimhaven Hi there, I just read this comment and firstly, I cannot understand how someone can only sleep for 4.5 hours! It's a real shame you were sick that day coz you put in so much work that should have paid off :( It's a relief to hear that you're fine now :) Don't worry too much about your results because it is a real tough education system there (I live in the UK btw but I saw a programme on TV about the difference in our education systems, so I understand what it must be like). My questions are: 1. How could you even function the next day after getting only 4.5 hours of sleep? I can only function if I get 7 hours or more! 2. How old are the students when they sit these exams?
Even if you fucked up, that test is not going to help you with actually talking with a native english speaker, but they still put so much pressure to do well on that test when it isn't even going to help them if they want to study in America :/ I know what pressure to do well in school can do to you because my country, Singapore, also puts a lot of focus on doing well, so a lot of the kids are suicidal, luckily at least Singapore is trying to move away from that in recent times so the younger generation don't have to suffer like we do
Simran Panesar 1. Obviously it did not function properly. But we should have to do. Solve lot of questions, read lot of paragraphs and memorize everything, Literally. 2. In Korean age 18 or 19. (17 or 18 everywhere else) More 1. My highschool starts at 7:40am and it ends at 5pm. (only regular classes) We had to do "night self-studying" until 10:30pm unless they had "private academy" classes. We had no choice More 2. When my teacher asked us "What do you guys want to do in the school field trip?" Literally ALL of my class mates said "Just wanna take a rest. Like sleep" It was sad but that's exactly how we felt the entire time to prepare.
is it relevant to learn Shakespeare plays in high schools? Pretty much every high school in America teaches at least one Shakespeare play. Its outdated and probably useless in professional fields, but that doesn't mean its worthless
The Korean SAT is not about evaluating the ability of each subject. The essence of the Korean SAT is to evaluate how diligent students are. As a Korean student who got only three mistakes in the last year's Korean SAT (Korean:44/45, Math:30/30, English:44/45, Chemistry:19/20, Biology:20/20, Korean HIstory:20/20), I really think this it is a great test to evaluate if you are a person who can overcome any adversities concerning academic work. This diligence was the the driving force behind Korea's rapid growth. So, what I want to say is the purpose of the SAT is probably to choose the hardworking students, giving them the opportunity to learn in prestigious Universities in order to make them keep up the technological/soical/political development of Korea. I think this actually worked in our country!
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The way they phrased those questions is like me copying something to my essay and trying to avoid plagiarism by replacing each words with their synonyms.
I'm Korean, was born and raised in the U.S. my whole life, am in middle school, and yet my mental health is in the worst condition I've ever thought imaginable, my parents just keep saying I'm a disappointment and keep putting pressure on me to get high grades. They yell at me whenever my grades drop even a little and they ended up giving me what I'm 99% sure is anxiety, and because of that, my grades drop further and I get even more stressed when they blame it on me. It's a vicious cycle that won't end.
@@stormfalcon1232 wow i’m so sorry you have to go through this, though i do relate because i go through most of this too. honestly, the education system here is fucked up so it’s not really your fault! have you thought have seeing a therapist? talking to someone really helps me so maybe it can help you too
Perhaps because speaking English isn't that important in South Korea. A handful of European countries teach English, French and German as foreign languages as a default.
Yeah the from what I hear the English section is worth as much as the National Language Section (Korean). On top of that there is another foreign language section (English not included). But, Korea is a small country with few prestigious universities. They are looking for the best and the brightest. Doing poorly in those sections will not stop you from attending any college, just maybe one like Seoul National.
isn't it like being transelated from Korean poetry ? because these abstratc meaning dons't exist as this hard in English , in the other hand Asian cultures have so much philosophy .correct me if i'm wrong and CHEER UP :)
Even if it's not, Korean's English is taught in a way that most English medium schools in India teach us our own Lang,just to know you can take the burden or not
Meanwhile in Finland, the education system is being revamped to focus more on learning rather than grades. I think that all countries need to sit down and do an overhaul of the system. Stop obsessing about grades! >.
We generally don't need competition, we learn for us not for others. Sure I can gloat if I get a higher score on a test than my friend, but that's never the driving force behind studying.
Stanford and Berkley are not Ivy league schools. However, you'd be mad to think Stanford or Berkley are any less. They're ranked ahead of Ivy league schools in most world ranking of universities.
Lol my thoughts as well. Sadly in reality, recruiters will initially and inevitably define you because of your school. It is not everything yet it is something, a huge something. Regardless, if a major school doesn't work out then one should find other aspects in life which they are good at instead of suicide.
I'm an English Native speaker and these questions kinda debunked me at the end but I can break them down into 3 paragraphs and think about them each individually. Still got them wrong but hey, it's just how I think.
As a native English speaker, I got one wrong but I did have to stare at it for a few minutes. The questions are really philosophical and I just looked for what was before and after the sentence.
they ranked #1 highest suicidal rate in South Korea and this okay no wonder a lot of students commit suicide at young age they put too much pressure for them -_- :(
Distrupted i agree and have u been to a korean school? cuz i havent and i wonder how its like. im south korean too but i moved to another place at 5 and didnt get to experience it.
Angela Gonzales Namjoon is a K-Pop idol from the band, BTS which also means, Bullet-Proof Boy Scouts, Bangtan Sonyeondan, or Bangtan Boys. He has an IQ of 148.
Them before the test: "I graduated in Yale, Im probably going to pass anyway." Them after the test: "dear Korean students out there.. I owe you one.. 😭💔"
Well surface area is 4πr^2 so and the radius of the sun is 695,700 so thats actually a very easy question. 4*π*695,700^2 = 6.08×10^12= 6,080,000,000,000km squared. And the volume is 4/3πr^3 so the volume is 4/3*π*695,700^3= 1.41×10^18km cubed
im a malaysian, i taught myself english and tbh, these questions are kind of fucked up. the questions were simple actually. but they're twisted in so many ways and that made it sounds complicated. to koreans who survived the test, im proud of you 😂
@@lumpismap4942 Soalan objektif BI kita sangat senang. Paling-paling pun ada 2 atau 3 soalan sukar untuk suruh murid keliru sedikit. Kalau ujian style Korea macam ni diberi kepada murid, mampus mereka nak jawab ni..
13 hours of studying is the average time. Which means the students who only study for 13 hours gets a C or D in the test. The students who receive high scores normally study 18~21 hours a day with 3~4 hours of sleep each day. This physically and mentally drains us which is why only the most healthiest students ever accomplish this routine. The pain of studying starts from the aching in the back and neck, then the eyes that feel like someone is squeezing them. Then you notice you're nose bleeding and try to go to the bathroom only to realize you are unable to let go of your pencil as you cannot feel it. After sticking both of your noses in tissues, breathing with your mouth and facing downward to study, you keep going on in a much more uncomfortable way. You know what you're studying is mostly useless and will never be used in the real world. However if you don't, it is guaranteed that you will live on as a poor guy with a low income job. You study to have a better job. You study and hope that one day you will be able to leave this place and never have to give this life to your children.
Schools need to understand that education is about actually learning these things so you can have a successful life, not being able to decode an abstract ridiculous paragraph like these or wasting every single day of your life for these tests. There is too much pressure for these grades when a lot of the things they are trying to teach you won't help you. I'm still living very well even though I forgot almost everything I learned two years ago. My friend studies her butt off for good grades and she's literally almost cancelled things like clubs after school just to study for a vocab test. Science is also ridiculous. I get like 3 points off for just not putting the date on my table. Humans are forgetful! I'm sorry I know that you put a date there and that I forgot to do a simple thing.
PREACH how I see it is that education is important and will empower a persons life in many ways but valuing it excessively to the point of driving students to become almost zombie-like and putting literally everything into attaining a perfect number/letter(or however grades are represented in various places) is just too much, education should go towards making someone's life better, not making them not live it
Amy Rodriguez same, yoosung should stop gaming now, to keep surviving in korean society 😥 (i know yoosung is fictional character but still), and I understand why jaehee is always so stressed
These questions sound like you're trying to reach a word limit in an essay so you just add as much filler as you can lmao
luv the vids Roo!!
RooFooChoo lmaoo true, I do this all the time that time to time it won't make sense anymore.
RooFooChoo can you come visit me in Korea and come take these tests with me.
RooFooChoo so true😂😄
Thats exactly what it is. Even in the GRE, the essays are loaded with useless information. In most cases you probably could eliminate 2 or 3 of the options in the answers and find the most minute difference in the most credible answer.
i thought i was fluent in English until i saw this
Sue lol same
Yupz
As a native English speaker, I only understood half of what the questions said, so you're good even if you couldn't understand them.
That was terrible English. As a rule, English tends towards simplicity. And yeah, I know, complicated weirdo language, but this reeked of translation, not fluency.
Jonah Woolley I’m native French, so I’m gonna try and understand this
That is not a foreign language test anymore, that`s a philosophy test IN a foreign language.
Sofie Burger the accuracy
Not at all, all you have to do is understanding the text, not thinking about some philosophical topic, so this is simply a quite hard foreign language test ^^
Poupou le chou true, but to answer these questions a philosophical mindset won't hurt
Sofie Burger makes me feel like I have to
I totally agree.
y'all graduated from stanford, yale and ucla and ended up at buzzfeed?
hahaah exactly
Navid b they choice to do what they enjoyed
Wasn't ned like a chemist or something and making $$$?
He spoke of it once but idr.
Only know Ned, he was a chemist, used to work at renewable energy lab if i'm not mistaken, but doing standups at night...matter of choice I think..not everyone know what they want to do when choosing major anyway, so...
It's actually a running gag in some of Ned's videos lol
the sad thing is when you can't even understand what is the question talking abt
You basically just fill in the best possible answer.
Joan Sze ikr 😂😂
Trick I think is not to make sense of it but go with the option that goes with it in tone..
@@samuelcolt1505 the most reasonable answer, tho
i had to reread it a couple times till i understood it
I'm a Korean student. Help us please.
Hyuntae Kim please stay strong, i know it can be hard. just try not to over push yourself. lots of love ❤️
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Hyuntae Kim Goodluck, try not to pressure yourself too much~
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skery Got it
Those questions sound like me writing an essay; repeating the same thing over and over again using as many synonyms as possible.
Lmao same
I feel like the questions looked hard because of how much repetitive and unnecessary information they had even though they weren't asking much. They are just questions that would really screw over those who are in the process of learning English because of how unnecessarily over complicated thy are.
Jerusha Jose oh my god same
and using as many smart sounding words as you can to distract from the fact that you don't actually know the answer XD
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IM KOREAN BUT LIVE IN AMERICA! THANKS MOM
Same
I am a student living in Korea, and I am so tired. Take me with you😢
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싱가포르에서 초딩때 한국으로 다시 온 내가 병신이지... 국제학교 분위기 자유롭고 좋았는데...ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
Same but my mom is strict with my grades 😵
13 hours studying!!!!? I'm lucky if I can even last an hour.
Moonily same
you would be, if you were born in asia lol
With the education they are having, they have no choice, I guess...I thought Indian education was fucked and then I see this...
+hoho ._. i'm asian and 13 hours is ridiculous, i agree with Moonily
American schooling is great. I'm getting my masters in Bioengineering, and I don't even need to study.
The strange fact is that some of my korean friends who have recieved high scores on this test cannot properly speak a single sentence at all.They've all got less than 2 questions or fewer wrong on this test(which is the score that only 4% of the total students has acquired)...but I still have communication problems with them.They don't learn english.They study hard as frick and forgets the most of it when they finish the test.
Johnny Sanderman That is because the English learning is based on reading and comprehension rather than that and speaking. Really there is no point in learning English in Korea. Learn from learning websites where there are tutors to help you speak
I'm a professor in SK. It's not even about comprehension. The English portion of the 수능 (Korean CSAT) is all about vocab and grammar structure memorization. Students often study HOW to take the test rather than the content itself. This test basically does the same thing that every other high stakes test does; it measures how well you study and how good you are at taking tests. There are very few practical applications to these types of tests.
SummertimeSadness Indians are the same
ikr ?? i lived in america for 10 years yet they get better english scores than me fml
SummertimeSadness 70K in NYU lol...
Korea: Goes to school for 13 hours
America: Omg is it yanny or laurel idk
Um wasnt it 13 hours of study OUTSIDE SCHOOL, fReE TiMe
not just America dood, other countries share these memes too!
@@PigeonFlare lol true
HAHA
I'm sure Korea did that too, you are comparing two things which don't have the same thing in common. I could do the same:
America: Spends 6 hours at school
Korea: Gangnam Style
Only 2 questions? Who else was expecting at least 10 questions for them to work on?
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@@ralphcarino5672 me too! I love Chaeyeon a lot and so happy that she made it in the Top 12!
The foreign language section, huh? Okay, I get that these are supposed to be some of the harder questions, but I thought the point of language was effective communication in everyday situations. These aren't questions that are going to help with communication skills. These are questions that, unless they can look at them and analyze, even native English speakers won't understand.
I understood pretty well, but that's because I'm used to thinking up abstract concepts and going into the deep territory of the metaphysical (along with philosophical) in my essays that I would write. ^^;; For the average person, I assume it'd be like trying to understand Middle English back when it was more Germanic and no practical resemblance to its modern version we use today.
i was confuzzled by the questions ;-;
I know right. It legitimately pissed me off because this doesn't help these students speak english or communicate with english speakers.
I found them pretty easy too. I just skipped the video to where the whole questions were shown and chose the correct ones in less than 30secs. The wording may be convoluted but the idea behind it is simple.
ok well congratulations to you two who solved it but imagine someone that is fluent in another language with a completely different vocabulary and grammatical structure trying to figure this out? i think thats the point of this video lol
I'm too lazy to read all of that
Hahaa same here
Ikr
Yeah, even walking to the kitchen from my living room is enough
lmao same I would just guess or do eeny meeny miny moe
@@dahrynkim3669 PLEASE-
Meanwhile,Americans spent a year trying to figure out if a dress is black and blue or white and gold
PaperBoy Technically the whole world spent a year trying to figure that out
black and blue obv
It wasn't just Americans. lol
PaperBoy American 🇺🇸
They asked the company who made it, and it was black and blue. Some people just couldn't see the true colors in the photo due to their eyes not entirely catching the way the lighting was reflecting the clothes, so the brain processed whatever.
[A typical example]
English : I'm hungry.
Korea SAT : Essentially, all living things on Earth have various essential conditions for living as organic organisms, and this can often be divided into three in terms of 'desire'. This is divided into appetite, sleep bath, and sexual desire. Here, appetite is the desire to eat food, and all living metabolic activities take food and get energy to act as living things. Nowadays, I don't eat foods that are evenly mixed with carbohydrates, proteins, and fats for a long period of time, and I am very exhausted, lacking energy, and greatly hindering my daily life. If I continue to suppress 'appetite' and maintain this situation, I will inevitably have to eat foods that contain high energy, as my life will cease.
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Lol That kind of thing appears on the exam from the first year of middle school (14 years old).
The sad thing is, even if you're that good in these test, it doesn't matter. Because this isn't how normal people talk and you couldn't speak a sentence or speak in general without problems. You don't need this as basic English
Well this is like the majority of electives you take in college. Some of them you don't even need and they take up your time all the same when you could be focusing on your core classes.
It's not meant to be used. It's an elaborate intelligence and fortitude test. It's meant to answer two questions. Is the person clever? Is the person industrious? And it succeeds. Plus, if you have a generally high quality of students such questions are necessery, otherwise at the top marks some students who can answer such difficult stuff would be placed at the same level as others that don't, which is unfair.
Yes it does in the long run. Getting into a good college in Korea means getting a good paying job. No one studies this to be able to use it in their daily conversations. In the end of the day, students study hard to make their parents proud and return something back to their parents that invested so much into their futures. THIS is the main reason ppl suicide, from the guilt of not being able to repay their parent's hard work through educational success.
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Kyuusei you could solve riddles faster maby?
Went to really nice colleges, ended up at buzzfeed
still ended up at buzzfeed lol
In America, we call our universities colleges.
It's probably not too stressful to work there and they make good money.
no they don't
I mean being employed in America is pretty good imo. Am I to assume you're an insider and you know how much these people make?
Now I know why Koreans are having a hard time in the English Language. Their educational system has a difficult test questions when you can actually simplify those sentences to make it more convenient and not complicated.
Yup.
Exactly! growing up in korea as a student is thankfully something i was lucky enough to avoid. the english education there is just downright ridiculous
Yeah nobody would say that because the text is not getting straight to the point. In both of those questions you could cut out at least a couple sentences. Nobody needs to be that specialized in English unless that's your profession. Rule of thumb if your foreign language exam is harder than what native speakers would've taken it may be too hard.
true
Their standards are why it is more difficult.
“I graduated from Yale”
“I graduated from Stanford”
“I’m a UC Berkeley graduate”
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Wtf lol
They all ended up in Buzzfeed 💀
@@anni3v_167 Yeah like 💀
I love how each sentence of the question goes from something highly analytical and scientific sounding to something that came from the mouth of Shakespeare and Emerson's love child lmao.
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I am a Korean high school senior who is currently studying for this. What they solved are quite old, when all of the fill-in-the-blank questions were difficult af. The level of difficulty has been adjusted a bit and we have fewer questions than it used to be, but they're still giving us hard times. I don't get the point of testing our English level in this way and it makes me sad that we don't have any alternative. :(
P.S. Those paragraphs are mostly from real theses and English books. Just to make it clear for the people who believe that these are written by some mad Koreans.
Yeah, that's really crazy. Even in Singapore where academic standards are really high, we don't get these kind of questions for our national exams.
English is a hard enough language in and of itself already, so for those questions to be so philosophical and wordy is completely unfair to students. To tell the truth, the only time you will see writing like that is either on standardized tests or in books. No one speaks like that really and it'd be a pain if they did since they would never have their point or opinion clearly understood. From a writing perspective there's a rule I've come across: if the word can be taken out, it wasn't needed. And those paragraphs were *laced* with fluff.
I have to ask, what are the tests like now? Are they any better to deal with or do you have more leeway?
Fewer questions*
Wait, does fewer questions makes it harder? Since each questions will count more and if you miss one question, it will affect the grade in a pretty bad way.
Ya but Singapore is wayy more integrated. Almost everyone is bilingual and speaks both English and mandarin
American foreign language questions: "count to 10 in your target language"
South Korean foreign language questions: "journey's are the midwives of thought"
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Haha but it's because English became an important language. Our French, Spanish or German exams ask something like count to 10 as well
that moment when cleaning toilets sounds better than that test
Oml I was on the ground when I read this. I would literally not survive if my tests were like this
elsa phan If I were a korean student I'd probably be the one of the students thet kill themselves man
Mhm
True, lol. I been blessed by the universe by being a Mexican student. I'm not an Einstein who easily answers everything, but school isn't that difficult for me since I give my very best, and I get good grades because of that. Anyways, I think I would also be one of those students who kill themselves, lol. I don't think I would really survive. You have to apply so many freaking skills for five days in a row with like a thousand hours of just studying.
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As someone with an English degree who had to go through technical writing and editing, I know these paragraphs are absolute garbage. They are filled with loaded words and imprecise vocabulary just to throw off the reader. At no point in time would this ever be useful unless for some reason you had to solve some crazy riddles because your life depends on it.
Lillian Smith well it’s not really testing one’s ability of speaking the language. It’s really just testing your problem solving skills and picking out the students that study and work hard.
But it doesn't properly test their problem solving skills if the paragraphs are filled with weird wording and imprecise vocabulary. I read journal articles and other academic-level work all the time, and these paragraphs were strange.
Lillian Smith As a dentist who also got high scores in English. This didn't even feel like English. I was lost the minute they started reading.
최예나 judging from the name, ur Korean. And I just wanna say that my heart goes out to u n the fellow students there. No wonder suicide rate is high in ur country.
Batman vs the Riddler
(I'm korean.)In fact, we don't read whole sentence.
To get over 90(A),it is almost impossible to read all those sentences carefully in time.we just read the whole sentence roughly and solve the problem by finding topic sentence.
Maybe you think it's very hard and useless,but every year,one or two people always correct every question on those useless and difficult tests.
Our country is teaching english not for speaking and learning different culture.
It's just for classifying students who are smart or not.(only in studying...)
That's why our country's exam is extremely difficult.
I'm very sad for this. Even in Italy english is not taught very well
Korean students would benefit so much more though if they were able to speak proper english. There are other ways to test the intelligence and logic of students.
English will be the banned of my existence, if this kind of education being implemented in my country. I thought learning language helps you have the upper hand to find better job or widen the opportunity. However, I wouldn't wonder anymore that English maybe is a subject which being hated the most in S.Korea.
Charlotte Katakuri uhh I think it really depends on the school you're attending and the professor you have tbh. Studiare letteratura inglese è stato davvero illuminante per me e sinceramente in quinta al classico posso dire di essere felicissima di quello che so di inglese, sia dal punto di vista della lingua dato che ho il c1 (considera che non sono neanche mai andata all'estero quindi tutto quello che so è preso da internet e dalla scuola), sia dal punto di vista culturale. quindi davvero dipende dai prof e dall'indirizzo (dato che non ne sono sicurissima ma credo che alcuni indirizzi non facciano letteratura ma un inglese più specifico per il percorso). poi che il sistema scolastico italiano faccia schifo è verissimo ma è un altro discorso ahaha
extremely . . .
Maybe that's the reason why many Koreans can't speak English..
Mark seagull a lot can haha
A lot can understand English, but most of them cant pronounce it well (because of their accent)
No in Korean we always get English classes. We just lack the environment to actually use the language
Mark seagull It actually is, because they have a really hard language themselves and I have heard they’re English teacher is not fluent 😯
Trust me, Koreans can understand english pretty well. As long as someone isn't speaking super fast, they will understand. as for pronunciation, they tend to have difficulties pronouncing certain words and letters because the korean alphabet doesn't have certain sounds like the "F" and "z" sounds.
13 hours studying?man i cant last even for half hours..
Knight Deva that's actually kinda sad, good luck in school!
Knight Deva I'm a Vietnamese high school student and we study about 12-13 hours a day. 10 hours at school and 2-3 hours at home( or even more when we have test). We only have 5- 6 hours to sleep, then wake up at 6am to go to school and go home at 9 or 10pm 😫
I don’t even study.
Doorl MSP me too😂😂😂
i sleep for 10hours lmao
It's because Korea didn't have Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.
Who would've guessed! It's so obvious. :P
Exactly! It legitimately got me through middle school
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Best guide
The question is who really made those questions?
I've heard that English professors from universities all over Korea make the test. One of them used to be a prof at Oxford. The funny thing is tho he failed to solve his own problems years later after he retired
Satan himself
For the Korean SAT, or Suneung, they recruit a bunch of professors every year and lock them up in who-knows-where for a couple of months before the test. They don't get to come out until the test is finished, literally. No contact with the outside or whatsoever. TV and newspapers are allowed, but nothing which allows mutual communication. I've heard they are allowed phone calls with their family under supervision.
William Shakespeare
North Koreans
America: Hey, you know where the supermarket is? I want to get some bread
Korea: Greetings, stranger. Are you conscious of the locality of the emporium? I shall request any nourishment.
How is learning that even helpful? No one talks like that
It's not helpful at all. It's more of like seeing how you grasp information about the English language through analogies and harder words.
Its pretty much to eliminate but all who don't completely understand English since there are so many people they have to take drastic measures in decreasing the most utter educated ones in order to eliminate "less" intelligent" out.
I've attended high ranked prestigious unis in both the States and Australia, and most of our readings in any course, ranging from law to psych, are written in this sort of format: extremely dense, verbose and sometimes pretentious.
It's not practical for the everyday person, but if you hope to attain higher levels of education, being able to decipher such literature is crucial.
Paragraph comprehension skills are very helpful though.
Harreh Pottah places other than American.
what the actual fk, i didnt even understand what the questions were asking. oml
bangtan tho
Lol same, I'm like wtf are they even talking about
bangtan tho it's basically those questions that say what is ____ to same as black is to white. The answer could be "different, opposite" etc because black and white are opposites or different or maybe even contrast, but it has to relate to the word
same
Same
They were actually pretty easy to understand. Easy stuff. Duh.
So I teach English in Korea at an academy for adults, and I was really surprised when I found out these are the kinds of tests they take IN HIGH SCHOOL, because most of these 20something year olds come to my conversation classes unable to form basic sentences. Something in their English education system is really wrong and has to change. I love Korea but this is one thing I detest and hear Koreans complain about all the time. But no one does anything about it.
The Q-Tip J-Hope throws in the YNWA Preview Show they way i see it is that whole purpose of thier high school is to get into a good college and nothing else.
I have heard that American colleges are harder on average than Korean ones, but high school is not comparable.
From my own experience in Korea, I could say that pretty much only those who have studied abroad, not necessarily the English-speaking countries, can speak decently. Most of the students in my university said that speaking practice wasn't a very common thing. They do know the grammar probably better than a native speaker. I would compare this situation to being really good at solving math problems, but being unable to explain the used solution in words step by step, without getting stuck for too many times. They seem to be way preoccupied with the actual score (numbers or what not) rather than purpose of learning in general :/
I heard they don't have problems with understanding English on paper, it's just that they don't or barely practice speaking it in classes, just what I heard.
I am korean and I am fully capable of speaking, listening, and writing English
You see, Korea started teaching english to children AFTER the 2000's, and people who are at least 20 years old probably started learning english in middle school. and i am 100% pure Korean, and I can speak, listen and write english with NO problem
If any korean high school students are reading this comment, you have my wholehearted respect and support✊🏾✨
Please don’t push yourselves too hard ok?💚
@@user-tm8gu6qz8n ITS TRUE.Korean here (life in Australia)
Thank you :(
But the fact is, if you dont push yourself too hard, you can’t go to the college in seoul, which means that it is hard to get good work place
thx a lot i,m Korean middle school students.
@@Jiheon-l8x 학교에서 행운을 빌어요!
Wow didn't know Ned and Garret went to such prestigious schools
RAWRsynchro same
RAWRsynchro i was so surprised too
RAWRsynchro I don't think that's so surprising considering BuzzFeed being one of the biggest in the media field. So of course they pick up the best people. Like a big MNC would choose the most qualified, so same thing.
Otaku Giraffe Unfortunately, the quality of their content doesn't reflect that.
true, I think I used the wrong word choice. Just pretty unexpected I guess. They do portray it though through speech and like you said qualifications.
I feel like these are only "hard" because people get so lost in the text. If you just isolate the question, it becomes 10x easier.
Iamsmarter are you native in English?
Iamsmarter we need to solve that kind of question under 3 minute.
beemobile98 I feel like Iamstarter is right, and no I'm not a native English speaker. However I feel like the tests that I took in secondary school were also very large texts that made us fill in the correct phrase and once you practise that it becomes a lot easier. I'm not saying the Korean students should be able to do this easily, but I am saying that with proper help, these questions can become a whole lot easier
True I was reading the the sentence before the blank in which the question was asked. The rest is a paragraph scenario...
We have to solve about 26 questions in 50 minutes which makes us need to solve a question for no longer than 2 minutes. Try answering the questions and isolate what you need to. You would probably not have enough time and panic when you still have alot of questions left but no time left.
Honestly my heart hurts for the students in Korea, way too much focus is placed on test scores and education to the point that it is unhealthy. Kids should not have to grow up feeling like their whole world depends on what results a piece of paper gets them. I have one friend that said when she grew up in Korea she was usually at the bottom of her *high school* classes and was considered to not be too smart, yet when she moved to the U.S. for *university* she was easily a top student in her uni. The difference in difficulty is no joke. I get that education is important, but Korea's really reached a point of being far too extreme. It is not healthy for the children. The amount of students that commit suicide after doing their college entrances exams says it all, it's like they're made to feel that the score determines their entire life and this is a mentality that their society really needs to stop encouraging.
DestatiXIII this is 100% relatable.
DestatiXIII I 100% agree with u. I'm in high school and I'm a straight A student and I had difficulty with the questions in this video. I get that education is important, but there has to be a balance between hard work and enjoying life and having fun. Balance is the key to a healthy lifestyle. Maybe South Korea can understand that one day. I also truly feel sorry for the students there
Uhhh, I'm korean and the main reason that my friends are stressing out is because of their parents. unlike my parents. I'm a lucky person.
American kids are healthy and happy? huh? USA is massive and rich in resource and that is why we have so many obese people and our top engineers come from abroad but S Korea is small with no resources so they have to work hard
It's a huge unfortunate problem, but it's what kept the country ahead of almost the whole world.
All that so everyone can have their 4G phones, special cars, breakthroughs in biotechnology, etc.
That being said, I don't think "spoiling" people like most aspects of mid-class+ USA would be any better. I think It'll only make people more prone to being sensitive and maybe "suicidal".
Geez, I remember hearing a classmate of mine saying something like "If I don't become a gamer, I'll kill myself".
So this is why Jungkook scored 3 out of 100 😂
Bi Boo yo even I would score a 3 having English as my first language 😂
ARMY!
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In korea, You’ve to solve the 45 problem in 70 minutes.
Koreans don't even speak, read, watch, listen, and write in English regularly, what makes exam-makers think they'll be able to understand such abstract concepts?
JVee Veneracion If youre an above average student, you'll read, write, practice, and listen to English everyday. English is just one of the many subjects you need to study for school.
it's different if the language is not your primary language and you don't get exposed to it at all. TV shows and movies in Korea are in Korean or Western with Korean subtitles. When I was 25, I had a 32 year old student who was a middle school English teacher in Korea. She's the teacher and yet she needs my help improving her English. How ridiculous is that? She also told me that English classes are taught in Korean.
Agree.
I think the reason most Asian countries aren't adept in using conversational English is because of the lack of exposure, or any opportunities to even use the language.
Even the fact that they use their native language during English classes, and even majority of their classes, makes it less effective for any actual application of the language. (I found it amazing to compare that only about 2 or 3 out of the 8 subjects here are taught in the native language, and the rest is all in English)
Well, wouldn't it make sense for it to be taught in Korean? A beginning English learner wouldn't understand any grammar had it been taught in English - especially with Korean being so different grammatically from English.
it's weird that the average korean can't speak English properly and some can't even form a single sentence, when they learn it in such a high standard in school.
And for the listening section do they play Rap God?
Listening is really easy
Isaac Exposito
I know all the words to that, but the questions in that video boggled my mind
Yup
2011 korean sat english section was worst thing in any history. it was my test. when i saw test page, i felt WTF. For just normal student like me, Test time was in hell. I couldn't understand many sentences with little nervous. i took 72/100 score.
it's actually a C-
The real question is what are Yale, Stanford, and UC Berkeley graduates doing at Buzzfeed?
Miguel T pays well
Earning good money in a job that is fun. In other words, hitting the jackpot for young people starting out in a career. Billions of us have jobs that are less well paid and boring and/or arduous. Their schooling has absolutely paid off.
I'm sure Buzzfeed hired them just because of the name recognition of their respective ivy league universities.
Miguel T They get payed well, Buzzfeed probably wants like more intelligent-y for more videos.They many people in Buzzfeed,
Intelligent ones to know about photoshopping, editing, and creating.
UC Berkeley is totally understandable, even expected. For real though i'm sure buzzfeed make a lot of money and pay "journalists" a lot of money to do relatively fun work.
To be honest, you only need to concentrate on the before and the after line of the blank to find the answer. The rest of it are just trying to puzzle you up.
The thing about concentrating is, it's taking time
Not necessarily. If you went back to the first question, and read the sentence after the blank, it was actually the sentence that most likely caused the confusion.
Totally, you skim and, if you are allowed, highlight things that seem important the rest is just garbage filler!(This also works for unnecessarily wordy math problems)
이게 맞아...주제문 찾아서 잘 이해하면 풀 수 있음 오히려 글 전체 하나하나 다 해석하려다가 그냥 추측해서 풀고 틀리는 경우가 많음
Nope I tried that and trust me it only confuses you more.
For me, the worst part about the issues with Korea's educational system is that after years and years of studying, going to English academies, etc. the average Korean person cannot fluently hold a conversation in English! It seems like in most cases they aren't being taught enough about conversational English (which is much more useful in the real world), and the pressure surrounding them taking this test is really for naught. Your foreign language score on your "SAT" isn't as useful as legitimate skill in speaking the language.
I have an issue with standardized tests all around the world, though. They put too much focus on scores, and the energy being spent in the classroom is no longer about real education, it's primarily focused on test taking strategies.
YES! The thing is, what you probably WILL need in the future is English...
Lovely Life the system allows so only a minorty can get good scores which grades them, ranking them.
A couple of UA-cam teachers in Korea explained that the teachers want the students to get the answer as it is written on the answer sheet even if the answer is wrong. In mathematical terms, if the answer sheet says that 2+2 is 5, then every South Korean student must learn that 2+2 is 5.
When the education system is already that tough and competitive, the Korean students learn just enough English to pass these tests. They don't study English because they want to.
I'm Korean and I can fluently speak and make conversations in English. If a Korean studies in the right environment (such as other people than their tutor speaking english) Koreans can learn pretty quickly. Although I _have_ been studying english for almost 6 years now... hm.
I was in china during the final testing for high school and I was so surprised to learn more about it. To know that people will actually commit suicide if they don't pass because if you don't pass you won't really go anywhere in life. That's terrifying for me
Meanwhile in America. High school and college dropouts have the opportunity to become billionaires.
H Hughes Doesn’t mean they all do, and that’s because they find their own path. “Land of abundance and opportunity” as they say. If the opportunity is present, would you not grab hold?
Asia Bach omg wtf
okay but can't you retake the test?
The thing is, in an English-speaking country you'd be penalised for writing like that. It's overly obtuse, verbose, and fails the basic premise of language, that is communicating a meaning concisely. It's clearly a prestige thing rather than an issue of practicality.
This test was more pretentious than technical tbh with fancy wording no one even speaks everyday English this way anymore
It most certainly is not. Even if what you said is indeed the basic premise of language, being able to do just that won't help you much in understanding scientific literature, where there are going to be as many writing styles (however ineffective they may be) as there are authors. So, for college goers, it most likely is an issue of practicality.
They take these passages from actual theses and English papers
You did not communicate concisely, either. You used 'overly' to modify 'verbose' (an adjective that signifies an excessive use of words), creating the meaning: "It's overly using more words than are needed". Remember, academic language is often verbose, so in a sense, the test is more practical than you think it is. In academia, it is encouraged to use complex sentence syntax and sophisticated lexis because it can help exhibit deeper understanding.
Colloquially, "verbose" can be positive or negative (although yes, the dictionary definition is strictly negative) so "overly" serves as a qualifier to signify the negative usage. My sentence was fine.
A lot of you are saying "but academic literature!!" to which I say, if your academic literature reads like this than you are picking some very poor authors. Use of jargon and complex vocabulary is one thing - many academic papers do employ an incredible amount of industry-specific terminology, which can be quite dense - but the example questions shown in this video do not fail on that front, but rather, upon the basic stumbling blocks that are sentence structure and clarity of thought.
Korean students : spent 13 hours of studying per day and said "6 hours of sleep is already more than enough"
Meanwhile me : sleep 7-9 hours each night and not even studying at all. And still complaining about not getting enough sleep and how i tired i am the next day
Umm..I am a 12-year-old girl living in Korea, and my friends sleep about 5 to 6 hours...TT
I live in America and I sleep for 5 hours.... I don’t study because I like to see how far I go with prior knowledge
@@tanzilhossain2693 z😉👉🏼🔥👉🏼🐽👉🏼😄🙀👆
15 and this is meeeee
How the hell are these questions going to prepare them for everyday life? I'm a native English speaker and I don't know ANYONE who speaks like that in casual conversations.
deadeaded Sure, but being able to hold a conversation is more challenging than reading. Most people can understand a language sooner than they're able to speak it. I can tell you one thing from my travels to Asia: The poorer the country, the better its people's English. I was able to converse with Cambodian kids, but I couldn't find one regular person in Japan who understood, "Excuse me, do you know where [insert place] is?" The only people who spoke English there were employees of the public transportation company.
i don't think formal conversations be like that too!
Is nepal from india duh?
Hell, I don't know anyone who speaks like this in a professional setting that isn't teaching.
Imagine being a pure Korean and knowing little to no English! And you'd have to take that?! I don't blame jungkook for getting a three in his exams
alexa torres He actually did very well in his final exam English
Sith do you think that 3/100 is good?
Even people like us having trouble to understand these
PrettySoneLoveHyo&Tiffany he didn't get a 3/100. that wasn't his final exam grade that was from last year. he did way better
honestly they know a lot of English only in the reading and writing sections...
Those look like questions I usually skip and give up on because it's too much confusion and reading ._.
Cykah, same..
omg that's me tho my friends sitting near me trade answers with me 😂 🍀
same I'll just ask my seatmate what's the answer on that super long confusing question and Idc if he or she have given me the wrong or right answer I'll write anything just to get over it.
Cykah same😂
Cykah OMG
"They're set up to fail"
😂
I'm Korean and I'm studying for the Korean SAT this year wish me luck!!!!!!!
Subin Lee my heart goes out to you
Subin Lee New challenge for Korean students: Try not to fail challenge
Subin Lee good luck and if you get a bad score its not the end of the world
Subin Lee good luck!!!!
Subin Lee good luck!
As korean..
that question must be solve in 30 sec
1min is too many
안녕하세요! 나도 한국 사람 입니다
Wtf that's crazy!...
Well "1min is too many" tells a lot of things..
@@ketsis9717 tbh most koreans are not good in english though
@@ketsis9717 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋtoooo "many" time
I teach Korean students at a private academy in South Korea. Of course, the low-level conversation stuff, is easy. But, when they get to a certain age, it's overwhelmingly hard. I'm teaching TOEFL and TOEIC to Middle school students (even though they are meant for college students). Some of the material is just too difficult. It's almost downright ridiculous. Also, another thing to keep in mind is, the students that go to an afterschool academy most likely goes to several (English, Music and Math among the most frequent). Some of my students are so exhausted. I feel bad for them. I have asked some of them "what do you like to do in your free-time' and the response was this: "Teacher, what free-time?"
Chris Layfield I hope you don't add onto their stress buy giving them a lot of work and homework. And then not expect them not to responded with that answer. Feeling bad for them does not help them.
only elementary kids attend music lol i am korean middle school student and i go 2 math, 2 science, korean, english. this is not much, but i attend math from 5:30 to 1 o clock (AM) and also science. I do science university physics and chemistry and i do KSAT korean and english is TOEFL and i do math olympiad. It is normal for kids in daehi dong and gangnam so normal and i am little bit mediocre in comparison to other kids. also, school exams are extremely hard in gangnam so.... I do this to get into good high school
Your comment saved my life and completely nailed the spot on every fucked up issue in Korean society.
This tends to be the case in most developed Asian countries.
Not to mention South Korea is home to a rather unique form of bullying which I'm sure as a teach you're aware of. Back when I was in college in one of my design classes we were given the challenge of designing a social issue campaign for another country, and I was told to address wang-tta in South Korea. The purpose of the project was to teach us that not all cultures are the same and that we cannot simply execute our own approaches and beliefs. We had to reach out to people who actually live and work in the culture, and I was met with a lot of hostility because the Korean teachers thought I was trying to push American ideals on them, which I wasn't.
Namjoon: an intellectual who got high scores for this test
Also Namjoon: can't cut an onion
Lmao haha. But Asians are smart, especially east asia....
I'm Asian but Namjoon is damn smart bro. He learned english through watching a show and korean and english have different grammar and it's difficult.
Namjoon is probably Albert Einstein in past life...
αииιкα 549 whenever people say asians are smart... they are disregarding their hard work. if all american kids studied like this of COURSE we’d get better grades and more people would think we were smart. that’s not to say that asians aren’t smart, but it could be offensive to people who try extremely hard to have success
my name hahah Im korean and I passed it too, and I think I can cut an onion
@@kat-pe8ok GENIOUS
ARMY
those questions are designed to mentally destroy you
If I wrote in school like how these questions are constructed, I wouldn't do very well. There isn't good flow or connection between sentences.
Take a philosophy course - I wrote like this all the time and did well.
David Wang That's because the words were translated to english. If you were Korean you would be able to understand more cleary. However the words they use on these tests are very hard so it is a struggle
ღмιиʝσσ кιмღ I don’t think the words were translated, I’m pretty sure the text came straight from a 1900s/2000s book if I remember correctly
Raymond Lin 1990 book? When the japanese invaded Korea? I don't think so. I think it is because the words were translated.
nope they're not translated, they are mostly from english-written theses or books
This is so abstract and unnecessary like are they just training Koreans for English poetry 😅
MOVEGETOUTTHEWAY ikr 😂
TO ALL STUDENTS: You are more than a grade in a piece of paper! ❤️❤️
I hate how a single letter grade defines you. My Spanish always blames us students for everything and seems to have never given an A in her whole life.
Most, if not all education systems around the world are broken; with standardised testing, obsession with grades and student competition. Never has education been so utterly depressing and downright ludicrous.
This is the kind of Buzzfeed videos I like to see; the ones with a meaning behind them rather than finding out if it's possible to "float on mashed potatoes"
If you have to try to find out you're probably too dense anyways XD
Monsieur Bernoulli Did... did you just do what I think you did?? DID U MAKE A PUN?????? XD
I appreciate this video much more, nevertheless: can you float on mash potatoes though?
agreed...loved this
Damn it Karla, now you gave them a new video idea...
After I watched this, “I’m not good at English”
Same girl....like I don't even know if I had a chance to get those questions right when I'm even Not understanding them
thirteen hours of homework a day
wtf i only do 2 minutes a week
tee siren they don’t have a choice
I have homework but I spent like 5 hours on it cause it's damm confusing
@Moonbyul Kimie if you say so.
I always study like 10Minutes before the test and I get a decent grade.
I've always been an A, B student surprisingly.
I have but 50 minutes a day. I live in Romania
tee siren we don’t have a choice it’s like hell every day
If students in korea study all day long, who is interested in k-pop and k-drama's.
Do they even have time for that????😅
Lol I bet more people outside of SK listen to kpop than people in SK
@@jaxconf9519 Very true.
Manasi Gangan there are easier school with more fun like language international and what my american friends call alternative school
@@Bladeefangirl333 ahh I see thanks I never knew that
They don’t study all day long. That’s over exaggerated. Only some do that.
These questions are ridiculous. If anybody spoke or wrote like that you would wonder what the hell is wrong with them.
its like something someone on crack would say.
Kevin Carr true true true👍🏻👍🏻
you would probably find it ridiculous in spoken language, but not in writing. Did you ever read anything remotely philosophical? it can get so much worse than the questions in this video.
This test is about reading comprehension at a very high level, not about understanding spoken language.
Exactly. And that is what motivates them to be suicidal. Those questions are ridiculous. Even native English speakers might have a hard time answering that correctly.
it's not a simple test, it's an SAT-equivalent, it decides who gets into university and who doesn't.
if you find yourself completely unable to answer this test even though you go through hours of excessive studying every day, you simply aren't fit for university and you should have been sorted out way before you could succumb to the pressure of a test like this.
The cause for the high suicidality is most likely not the difficulty-level of the test, but the general attitude in korea: They conflate self-worth with academic achievement and force students that clearly don't have sufficient mental faculties through this rigurous testing process.
To be more concise,
the test raises the bar very high, for sure, but these high standards aren't the problem: The problem is that they want to apply these standards to every single student, even in cases where it is clear that the students will be unable to fulfill their expectations. THAT is the problem.
Hard tests aren't bad as long as you give them to an appropriate group.
These kind of questions make me have to reread them several times to understand
The prevailing Korean attitude toward sleep baffles. What's the point of skipping sleep to study when prolonged sleep deprivation causes brain damage???
being raised korean myself (and I'm still a student) the whole mentality that is very common is that doing well in school, getting good marks, and getting into a prestigious college determines your worth as a person. I've spent many nights studying instead of sleeping or even making dinner/meals, not to mention some korean schools have almost twelve hour days. a majority of free time is spent studying for big tests such as the toeic, 대학수학능력시험, ect. it's such a difference from american culture :/
Threadbare Threnody you wouldn't get it since, I'm just guessing you're not Korean. As a Korean myself the system is hard. If we don't spend all day studying you can never be smarter than your classmates, and to go to a good college you need high scores. Going to a good college is a life goal and if we don't go to a good college our future is literally just going down a drain.
+tae jeon
I do understand where you are coming from because I spent half of my student life in Taiwan (the rest in America). But what +Threadbare Threnody is trying to say is that lack of sleep results in lowered, and often times damaged, cognitive skills. He doesn't understand why a nation so focused on academic success would purposefully sabotage its own mandate through sleep deprivation. Scientifically it has been shown in many studies the damaging effects of not getting enough rest on cognitive functions (which are necessary to succeed academically).
tae jeon lol I study exactly 0 hours per month but I do fine in school XD
Potato I'm guessing you're not in a Asian education system? Because trust me unless you're some genius brought upon this earth u can't survive in the Korean education system with 0 hours of study.
I'm a korean but I'm attending an international school so we follow the American system.
wait so international schools students in korea dont need to go the korean sat?
@@freyasutedja3004 From what I know we do if we want to go to a korean college but I'm planning to study abroad.
@@juhalee3880 ohhh okayy good luck!!
@@freyasutedja3004 thank you ^^
@I'm cute oh where are you from?
Being as one Korean student, these are not meant to test English skills but just problem-solving skills and big terminologies IMAO. In the real test, we have 25~30 questions like these in the video and have to solve it UNDER 1 minute per questions. As a result, we just memorize imprecise vocabularies as if we’re a dictionary. Of course, most of the students aren’t able to speak well. Everyone knows that this isn't good and must be changed but no one tries to change this and just studies cuz they have to go university unless they’re going to be a Blue-collar worker. Actually, it’s hard to have a part-time job if u aren't even a freshman. Too bad for today's students.
B.K. MCPE how exactly does this test your problem-solving skills man?
I honestly thought India's education system was crazy(I still think so actually) . But this doesn't even make sense
Just play online games and watch English movies. That's how I learned, I got both questions.
@@prathyasteeacharya1899 - these questions test your ability to take a test. the students go to academies where they learn not how to speak but how to take the test. there are certain strategies and tactics in figuring out these sorts of problems (and memorizing useless vocabulary words at a rate of almost 100 a day). they have this stuff down to a science. It's like SAT prep classes like Princeton Review or KUMON but on steroids.
@@jenniferchough And I thought what they teach me at school was useless...
its not that hard lmao. We do that in our country too.
Of course there's a link between self worth and academic success in SK. If you do poorly in school, your entire future is gone. That's why a lot of the suicides are from newly graduated students. They performed poorly on their university entrance exam and it's like watching your future go down the drain. Eight year olds in SL are committing suicide, Elementary school aged children. You hire tutors to tutor your tutor so that you can be tutored. And it doesn't help when the older generation thinks that the new generation is doing so bad because they're lazy. The older generation grew up during an economic boom and got established, but now everything is so competitive. People are working for little to nothing just to be able to do something they love. They call it "Passion pay" you get paid by working in field related to your degree. Most people in South Korea have given up on relationships, marriage, kids, houses and a social life due to the job market. There's even a term for the generation that has given up those 5 things.
Wah Deureumna Asian Parents don't exactly understand that "U HAVE TO B LAWYA OR DOCTOR OR LAWYA AND U GET A GUD FAMIRY" but these days, technology rules the most. I mean look at Bill Gates. Fcking billionaire just from him coding in his childhood.
Thats insanity. Poor kids.
Sunanda Gupta just because you only get 5 doesn't mean it's decent or healthy. You're supposed to get 8 hours at night. Did you know that? So tack three whole goddamn hours off of that. Still sound decent?
Factually Korea and Japan have one of the highest student suicide rates. Its because of their rigorous program and just the culture there.
Your country is also so corrupt that unless you have connections you will never get hire for the good positions. Elitism is strong over there.
I am an ESL/EFL teacher in Korea currently and have been for the last seven years. The pressure these kids experience (starting from even kindergarten) is insane. My elementary-high school students are always hungry because they barely have time to eat. Once they reach their last year in high school, they are in school until 11pm or later (a teacher is there with them - they do shift work) so they can do homework and busy work under supervision. I have also read questions from their Suneung exam (the BIG test that they kill themselves over for uni admittance) and, just as it 's shown in the video, they are purposefully written using irregular or specialized vocabulary that would throw off any native speaker. Sentence structures are made as complicated as possible. Not even our textbooks in colleges back in the US are written in this manner and obviously no one speaks like this. Who writes these exam questions? Do they have a soul?
its from the paper usually. :(
Thanks for your opinion.
This makes me think how smart RM is
It's not like RM became good at the language as a result of the education system. Like most non native English speakers he learned and became good at English by watching English TV shows which I admit is probably the fastest and most efficient way to learn and become good at English. I learned English using those methods after all.
If he did engineering. ~T_T~
Jungkook....now i understand your struggle
Jaastinnn Nguyen I was like "How the heck did you get 4/100?" Then I watched this and now I'm like "Okay, I get you" 😂
Alina. L you do know all the questions are not this hard. The ones in the video are the absolute HARDEST on the test
Moral of the story : I LOVE YOU MY EDUCATION SYSTEM.
I took my korean sat last year
I only slept 4.5 hours and studied more than 18 hours each day to prepare
But i was sick that day, obviously i fucked up
I was suffering from the text result, I literally cried for weeks (I'm fine now)
Its such a big deal in Korea that even airplanes are not allowed to fly for the English listening test
Bc there's only one chance on one day in Korea
The whole point is to learn but education systems already forgot
And some of Korean do really well on the test but still find it hard to carry a simple conversation in English! Wth
Ugh I have a lot more to say, but I'll stop😂
If you wanna know more about Korean sat or something ask me!
Ahh its such a waste since they do really well on the test but cant carry a conversation with it. They can undersand the language already if they can answer those kind of questions too. Your comment is super interesting
hiimhaven Hi there, I just read this comment and firstly, I cannot understand how someone can only sleep for 4.5 hours! It's a real shame you were sick that day coz you put in so much work that should have paid off :( It's a relief to hear that you're fine now :) Don't worry too much about your results because it is a real tough education system there (I live in the UK btw but I saw a programme on TV about the difference in our education systems, so I understand what it must be like).
My questions are:
1. How could you even function the next day after getting only 4.5 hours of sleep? I can only function if I get 7 hours or more!
2. How old are the students when they sit these exams?
Even if you fucked up, that test is not going to help you with actually talking with a native english speaker, but they still put so much pressure to do well on that test when it isn't even going to help them if they want to study in America :/ I know what pressure to do well in school can do to you because my country, Singapore, also puts a lot of focus on doing well, so a lot of the kids are suicidal, luckily at least Singapore is trying to move away from that in recent times so the younger generation don't have to suffer like we do
Simran Panesar 1. Obviously it did not function properly.
But we should have to do. Solve lot of questions, read lot of paragraphs and memorize everything, Literally.
2. In Korean age 18 or 19. (17 or 18 everywhere else)
More 1. My highschool starts at 7:40am and it ends at 5pm. (only regular classes) We had to do "night self-studying" until 10:30pm unless they had "private academy" classes.
We had no choice
More 2. When my teacher asked us "What do you guys want to do in the school field trip?"
Literally ALL of my class mates said "Just wanna take a rest. Like sleep"
It was sad but that's exactly how we felt the entire time to prepare.
chankyekit We now need to free ourselves from obsolete customs
The questions are very hard, BUT IT WAS REALLY UNHELPFUL TO REAL LIFE. NOT EVEN RELEVANT.
It relevant when you work in business and politic.
I agree
@@howtogitgud but everyone is not interested in politics
is it relevant to learn Shakespeare plays in high schools? Pretty much every high school in America teaches at least one Shakespeare play. Its outdated and probably useless in professional fields, but that doesn't mean its worthless
The Korean SAT is not about evaluating the ability of each subject.
The essence of the Korean SAT is to evaluate how diligent students are. As a Korean student who got only three mistakes in the last year's Korean SAT (Korean:44/45, Math:30/30, English:44/45, Chemistry:19/20, Biology:20/20, Korean HIstory:20/20), I really think this it is a great test to evaluate if you are a person who can overcome any adversities concerning academic work. This diligence was the the driving force behind Korea's rapid growth.
So, what I want to say is the purpose of the SAT is probably to choose the hardworking students, giving them the opportunity to learn in prestigious Universities in order to make them keep up the technological/soical/political development of Korea.
I think this actually worked in our country!
Naw I don't mess with those tests lol
I saw you somewhere else? Pewdiepie vid? idk
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same
The way they phrased those questions is like me copying something to my essay and trying to avoid plagiarism by replacing each words with their synonyms.
BluebearChu so true lol
LOL YES
ACCURATE.
basically every student ever
AHAH Sameeeee xDD
the color coordination of the books complete me.
uh i'm korean and i'm glad as hell i'm in the us now
존나부럽다 하..
다음생에 미국에 태어나고 싶다..... ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ부럽다 당신은 복받은 사람
I want to born in America next borth
Korea is so hard to live
you have a lot of fortune
@@thma3598 ㅋㅋㅋ 고마워요
I'm Korean, was born and raised in the U.S. my whole life, am in middle school, and yet my mental health is in the worst condition I've ever thought imaginable, my parents just keep saying I'm a disappointment and keep putting pressure on me to get high grades. They yell at me whenever my grades drop even a little and they ended up giving me what I'm 99% sure is anxiety, and because of that, my grades drop further and I get even more stressed when they blame it on me. It's a vicious cycle that won't end.
@@stormfalcon1232 wow i’m so sorry you have to go through this, though i do relate because i go through most of this too. honestly, the education system here is fucked up so it’s not really your fault! have you thought have seeing a therapist? talking to someone really helps me so maybe it can help you too
The funny thing is most of Koreans who took these kinds of exam in their high school can't speak a word in English.
Kimgap1721 RIGHT I don't understand
Perhaps because speaking English isn't that important in South Korea. A handful of European countries teach English, French and German as foreign languages as a default.
Noel :p in Korea, they focus on reading and writing. they barely speak the language that they're actually learning!
You know that native Koreans don't have to take the tests in english, right ?
Yeah the from what I hear the English section is worth as much as the National Language Section (Korean). On top of that there is another foreign language section (English not included).
But, Korea is a small country with few prestigious universities. They are looking for the best and the brightest. Doing poorly in those sections will not stop you from attending any college, just maybe one like Seoul National.
the comment section has nothing to do with the video.
kpoping at Bangtan and The Ark there almost all BTS fansXD
Ahhhh the Ark makes me cry all over again.
Same they were so talented.
kpoping at Bangtan and The Ark we r truly everywhere 😂😂
Just jimini My people. We are ARMY!!!
As korean high school student, this kind of videos cheer me up in some parts ;)
백윤아 Yeah... I dont know how you can do this, even as a native I barely understood what they were saying... but good luck!
Nerdy Dreamer thank you for such a nice encouragement, it touched my heart 😭
백윤아 keep going buddy , it will be worth it
natalie B Thank you ❤ I will try my best in this year to worth my effort as your encouragement❤❤
isn't it like being transelated from Korean poetry ? because these abstratc meaning dons't exist as this hard in English , in the other hand Asian cultures have so much philosophy .correct me if i'm wrong and CHEER UP :)
Before watching this, I literally thought that Indian education system is the most toughest one
Even if it's not, Korean's English is taught in a way that most English medium schools in India teach us our own Lang,just to know you can take the burden or not
ikr its messed up
Thought*
Meanwhile in Finland, the education system is being revamped to focus more on learning rather than grades. I think that all countries need to sit down and do an overhaul of the system. Stop obsessing about grades! >.
Anon Anonymous i love the education system in finland jesus christ i want to live there ㅜㅜ
That's true!
I hope the new OPS (opetussuunnitelma, or teaching plan) is going to make my final grade easier.
FINLAND I'M COMING!!!!
bad idea. without grades there is no competition.
We generally don't need competition, we learn for us not for others. Sure I can gloat if I get a higher score on a test than my friend, but that's never the driving force behind studying.
"You don't need academic success to feel validated"-IVY LEAGUE GRADS -__-
UC Berkeley is not an ivy league school
that's why she couldn't get both answers right :)
Stanford and Berkley are not Ivy league schools. However, you'd be mad to think Stanford or Berkley are any less. They're ranked ahead of Ivy league schools in most world ranking of universities.
Stanford and Berkley aren't Ivy League but they are basically the same. All of these three universities have the highest ranking in the world.
Lol my thoughts as well. Sadly in reality, recruiters will initially and inevitably define you because of your school. It is not everything yet it is something, a huge something. Regardless, if a major school doesn't work out then one should find other aspects in life which they are good at instead of suicide.
Lol no wonder they're the best gamers in the world.
LUL koreans haven't won a ti KAPPA123
Lol all the gamers skipped school and play games and try to play professional
Totally unrelated.
Slurff yea xD
Dude, do you really think someone can keep up with both this monstrous academic system and being a pro e-sports player? You're delusional.
no onne is going to talk about how good Ned is? : )
any English native speaker here, who got both questions wrong?
I'm not a native speaker, therfore I am crying and celebrating that I don't live in Korea.
I used to be an Adventurer like you Then I got high i only got one wrong but the one i got right was just pure luck
I'm an English Native speaker and these questions kinda debunked me at the end but I can break them down into 3 paragraphs and think about them each individually.
Still got them wrong but hey, it's just how I think.
As a native English speaker, I got one wrong but I did have to stare at it for a few minutes. The questions are really philosophical and I just looked for what was before and after the sentence.
TheArizonawolf A native English speaker who doesn't know what debunk means, it seems.
they ranked #1 highest suicidal rate in South Korea and this okay no wonder a lot of students commit suicide at young age they put too much pressure for them -_- :(
@Distrupted Korean system is doing too much
Ikr there are more important things than school
Distrupted i agree and have u been to a korean school? cuz i havent and i wonder how its like. im south korean too but i moved to another place at 5 and didnt get to experience it.
@@Julian2648 It's not really system, it's more like culture I reckon.
THIS is why namjoon turned out like that😂😂studying for tests😂
fluffy kitty 😂😁😁 omg yes!
fluffy kitty I was thinking exactly the same!
yesss
who is thissss
Angela Gonzales
Namjoon is a K-Pop idol from the band, BTS which also means, Bullet-Proof Boy Scouts, Bangtan Sonyeondan, or Bangtan Boys. He has an IQ of 148.
Them before the test:
"I graduated in Yale, Im probably going to pass anyway."
Them after the test:
"dear Korean students out there.. I owe you one.. 😭💔"
So this is the FOREIGN LANGUAGE part of the test and English is unnatural to them yet their questions are harder than the actual English SATS 😂
thats Asia for ya
cookies33133 yet the average korean doesn't speak a word of English.
US tests are easy!!! I mean standardized tests and even the professional ones like CPA and CMA.
Learning: 1+1=2
Homework: 24(54) = 1296
Test: calculate the surface area and volume of the sun
Sophie Wysocki IKRRRR OMG
Well surface area is 4πr^2 so and the radius of the sun is 695,700 so thats actually a very easy question. 4*π*695,700^2 = 6.08×10^12= 6,080,000,000,000km squared. And the volume is 4/3πr^3 so the volume is 4/3*π*695,700^3= 1.41×10^18km cubed
hey kiddo he could have been told it by someone. Or he used something called google....
Hey Connor I don't think you got the joke
right LMFAOO when the study guide nothing like the test
How did Namjoon even do this...?
taetaesguccii FRIENDS
lmao that's what I was thinking the whole time
Welp he got the brain of Albert Eintstain 😂😂
Sorry if my spelling is incorrect ✌
this video has nothing to do with bts..
im a malaysian, i taught myself english and tbh, these questions are kind of fucked up. the questions were simple actually. but they're twisted in so many ways and that made it sounds complicated. to koreans who survived the test, im proud of you 😂
Same dude, dia macam soalan objektif bi Malaysia but the languange is so bombastic that i don't even understand it in my 1st reading
@@lumpismap4942 Soalan objektif BI kita sangat senang. Paling-paling pun ada 2 atau 3 soalan sukar untuk suruh murid keliru sedikit. Kalau ujian style Korea macam ni diberi kepada murid, mampus mereka nak jawab ni..
NED: I'm making my mom proud! ...imma text her!
#relatable
13 hours of studying is the average time. Which means the students who only study for 13 hours gets a C or D in the test. The students who receive high scores normally study 18~21 hours a day with 3~4 hours of sleep each day. This physically and mentally drains us which is why only the most healthiest students ever accomplish this routine. The pain of studying starts from the aching in the back and neck, then the eyes that feel like someone is squeezing them. Then you notice you're nose bleeding and try to go to the bathroom only to realize you are unable to let go of your pencil as you cannot feel it. After sticking both of your noses in tissues, breathing with your mouth and facing downward to study, you keep going on in a much more uncomfortable way. You know what you're studying is mostly useless and will never be used in the real world. However if you don't, it is guaranteed that you will live on as a poor guy with a low income job. You study to have a better job. You study and hope that one day you will be able to leave this place and never have to give this life to your children.
최명수 this is just sad
Wrong because their average is like: B+. C or D are like F to us.
@@kateFGMP B is bad here in Singapore...I cannot get anything below 95. The lowest I got was 89 and my mother cried.
I live in India and got 80 percent in my final exam and a whopping from my parents. Beaten with a belt. The pressure is crazy.
This is exactly how it is in India. God pls save us.
Schools need to understand that education is about actually learning these things so you can have a successful life, not being able to decode an abstract ridiculous paragraph like these or wasting every single day of your life for these tests. There is too much pressure for these grades when a lot of the things they are trying to teach you won't help you. I'm still living very well even though I forgot almost everything I learned two years ago. My friend studies her butt off for good grades and she's literally almost cancelled things like clubs after school just to study for a vocab test. Science is also ridiculous. I get like 3 points off for just not putting the date on my table. Humans are forgetful! I'm sorry I know that you put a date there and that I forgot to do a simple thing.
PREACH how I see it is that education is important and will empower a persons life in many ways but valuing it excessively to the point of driving students to become almost zombie-like and putting literally everything into attaining a perfect number/letter(or however grades are represented in various places) is just too much, education should go towards making someone's life better, not making them not live it
Yoosung from Mystic Messenger will definitely suffer because of these tests...
Amy Rodriguez same, yoosung should stop gaming now, to keep surviving in korean society 😥 (i know yoosung is fictional character but still), and I understand why jaehee is always so stressed
Amy Rodriguez This was highschool stuff he is in college *-*
Amy Rodriguez yoosung is in sky university, the best university in south korea.
Exactly. Also, as FLE P pointed out, he already got into a good college.