This isn't showing that Koreans have a better understanding of English than British people, it's just showing that their tests are unnecessarily hard and obviously focus on aspects of English that are completely irrelevant. If you have a test that somebody who is fluent in the language cant pass while somebody who is not can, then the test is doing a bad job at determining your skill in that test.
The problem is that ppl that create those test are themselves pretty poor in English. While the answers are formally correct, as well as a use of grammar and syntax, the phrasing, the use of vocabulary and particularly semantics are totally inaccurate.
Very true! And the real testament is that most or many Koreans do not speak fluent English by the time they’re done with school. As a contrast, I started studying English in Russia at 9. By the time I moved to the US at 15 I was fluent so much so that I could take trigonometry during my sophomore year, my first year in the US, without difficulty. It seems like this test is not at all indicative of the actual knowledge of the English language.
@@perakojot6524 The point of the exam is to make sure the person who is learning the language can actually have a process of thinking in that specific language. We can all learn the vocabulary of a certain language easily but it’s difficult to actually think in that language.
What Max said is very true, except for in Korea. That Soonung (Korean SAT) test is unfortunately everything. It dictates their whole future and what university they can go to. The questions on that test are ridiculous. I have a Masters in TESOL, and I tried a bunch of questions from it. I barely got half of them correct. It's a test Korea needs to rethink and make it more like the English we use, and not the Korean/Japanese mathematical English they teach in Korea.
@@typhus1965 so true, not even half of those odd words (sounds like a words that came out from Harry potters movie) is usefull in daily life. trust me, in my work place i use english daily basis, but that exam is just riddicullusly wierd.
This has to be the best promotion ever for any school in the UK. The personality of these boys just shines. Very well spoken, having a lot of fun, engaging, supportive, articulate, smart, energetic and living life. Full credit to the school leadership and the culture. This is amazing.
@@flodderr I read this kinds of tests from my korean friends and tbh I found a lot of grammatical errors and words that are just put up just to look formal or eloquent, furthermore it’s torture to put students to this kinds of tests especially if they don’t even speak a lick of english in their everyday life. No wonder my korean classmates are scared to speak in english because they’re scared to make mistakes
All this test proved is that cultural bias exists in standardized testing. Here we have English students that have shown good deduction skills, cognitive understanding and problem solving. The test is formatted to help Korean students not to read the text but to decipher what keywords and clues will lead to the pre-generated answers. It does not encourage independent thought or comprehension. It produces good test takers that follow directions without question.
Exactly, but also that’s lowkey how schools and higher education works in general. I remember taking one of my final examples in English and it was tbh quite similar to this (I’m German). As a native speaker you get quite lost, because you’re not trained into finding those keywords.
Schooling is about recollecting memories and realizing patterns, they don’t encourage independent thinking at least in exams, because it’s quite impossible to standardize that and give grades accordingly.
Not really. The SAT tests for “scholastic aptitude” - by way of logic and verbal reasoning. They are somewhat testing your grasp of vocabulary and grammar but the real point of the “reading comprehension” section is to test your critical thinking. It is actually a good primer to the formal academic writing you will encounter in university, ie reading theory in the humanities or social sciences. As far as measuring “independent thought” typically there is a writing portion as well where the focus is more on rhetorical ability. source: I barely tried in school but I aced my SATs... (I will say that the structure of these exams is more geared toward those with a knack for logic, puzzles, word games etc.)
I'm an english teacher in korea - some of these kids don't even know the names of the letters in the alphabet, but will read full passages and pass exams. The way the curriculum is taught to these kids is absolutely ridiculous. Some of my top scoring students can't even hold a basic conversation in English, yet they would easily be able to do this reading section at the drop of a hat. Memorization and robotic test prep isn't really about learning the language at all.
I heard this from friends who've taught in korea as well. Absolutely excel in written "textbook" English but can't hold a basic conversation. They need to revise their teaching methods. I suddenly remember my Spanish teach from high school. She never spoke a word of English and emphasized conversation and interactive lessons. We hardly read from textbooks or workbooks.
But foreign language learning in many places doesn't help anyone to speak that foreign language. I'm from the Caribbean, and we learn Spanish and French on my island for yearsssss but no one can actually speak any of those languages. It is simply part of the curriculum. I just feel a bit bad to see so many people coming down on Korea specifically, when I think the real issue is that: teaching a foreign language in school for a couple hours a week, with students having no way to practice said language, leads to students being unable to speak said foreign language. Edit: I just want to let you know that I know my comment was unnecessary. I totally got your point, I just felt like defending them for some reason lol.
Good point. Im 100% agree with you. look, as you c theirs so many Korean ppl replyed negative for korean ENG SAT test has problem and so many opposite replyed also(they are replayed as Korean) but no one replyed your opinion. which mean's your saying is 100% correct. 한글로 쓴 뎃글중 수능 영어가 문제 있다는 뉘앙스의 글엔 50~60개씩 반박 뎃글 달리는데, 한국에서 영어 가르치는 미국 영어 강사가 한국 영어 교육 문제 있다는 영어 글엔 반박뎃글 하나도 안달리네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 앞에 뎃글들 좀 읽어 봤는데 원문이고 나발이고 그런건 중요 한게 아니고 한국어를 쓰는 우리가 영어를 왜 공부하는지 가장 원초적인 이유를 망각했다는게 중요함 나도 29살때 미국 와서 11년쩨 미국 사는데 10년 넘게 배운 영어가 미국에서 단 1도 도움이 안된다는게 사실이고 앞에서 외국 살아본 분들의 말이 100% 맞음 우리가 영어를 왜 공부하는데? 논문 읽고 에쎄이 쓰고 외국 대학가서 원어민 니들도 못푸는 문제 내가 푼다 나는 저세상 영어 할줄 알아(근데 아무도 사용안하고 아무도 중요하게 여기지 않는 영어) 이거 하려고 공부함? 일단 기본적으로 영어를 쓰고 읽고 말하려고 배우는건데 한국 고등학생들 10년 넘게 공부하면서 할줄 아는게 뭔데? 읽을줄 아는데 배운대로 쓰면 이거 뭔소리냐고 다시 써오라고 하고 말은 한마디도 못하고 이거 문제 있는거잖아 나 한국인인거 자랑스럽고 대한민국 너무 사랑하는데 인정할건 인정 하자 대한민국 영어 교육 영어를 배우는 교육이 아니고 영어라는 이름의 한국식 배배꼬아만든 시험을 풀줄알게만 가르치는 교육일 뿐임.
@@ittybittymouthful My Spanish teacher was the same. Our speaking grade was measured by how much Spanish we spoke to her and each other in class, so that really was a good motivator. She also taught outside the textbook and our lessons were based on discussing articles, literature, and video media from around the Spanish speaking world, which was cool because we got to learn vocabulary differences between European Spanish and Latin American Spanish (and even within Latin America there were some major differences). I still remember a lot of my Spanish today thanks to her teaching style.
There’s no way Armand is even real this dudes straight out of a comic I hope everyone here pays off! Thanks for entertaining us all on the show!! GOOD LUCK IN UR FUTURES :)
I knew several Koreans in grad school who could barely communicate in English, made elementary grammar mistakes, but had fantastic verbal scores on the GRE because they basically just memorized long lists of archaic words that only ever show up on tests like that. It's simultaneously so impressive and also so pointless that they do that. Other than the actual exam, that time could be so put to so much better use, even if just to learn English.
They can most definitely read english. This test has nothing to do with speaking english so they most likely dont know how to pronounce each alphabetical letter and say a setence. Remember, never in this test was it a verbal test
Also you saying that they could put the time to better use is invalid as the main intention for them learning english may not be to communicate, but to read and understand english as english is written over almost every daily use items
they most likely do know how to communicate and use grammar, just dont know how to write or do extremely well with forming sentences. If you go to Korea, you most likely memorize terms and sentences, maybe a bit of formatting, but you dont really have to learn much besides that unless you go to school or work
The British high schooler series are literally one of the best series I have ever watched..❤✨ They brought smile on my face just in a second watching them. Thank you Josh, Ollie and the entire team for this amazing series.. Please bring this boys to Korea to explore more of their culture and food..
Armand's words is just so powerful "failure isn't that bad, it's not the end of the world, you can do loads of things, especially in an exam like this, where you're judged on circling a number" damn...that's powerful...and I love what Max said "health is wealth" 그리고 당신은 입학 시험에 참가할 고등학생들에게 최고입니다. 인생은 어느 대학에 등록했느냐가 아닙니다. 시험에 낙제하더라도 할 수 있는 일이 많으니 낙심하지 말고 최선을 다하십시오.
@@whowantsbrowncheese1684 right? I worked in an elementary school in Korea and their futures are basically determined by the time they're in 5/6th grade based on these tests 😞
한국의 학생들은 공부에 의한 성공 아니면 실패라는 말을 들으면서 성장합니다. 그렇기 때문에 그들에게 시험은 세상의 모든 것입니다. 그렇기 때문에 시험을 잘 치지 못해서 최상위대학에 가지 못하면 실패한 인생이라고 스스로에게 실망하면서 성인으로서의 첫시작을 하는 사람들이 많습니다. 저 또한 그랬습니다.
For those wondering about the English language used here, it isn’t to test your ability to fluently speak it in every day life but to understand scientific essay writing or similar as most books for these things are written in English. Hope that clears some questions
But the writing of exam is really poor even for academic writing standards. Writing like the one shown in the video is by no means good for academic publication.
But it’s not that the writing is super advanced or formal… it’s just plain wrong. It doesn’t make sense lol. You don’t want to be speaking gibberish in scientific essays.
@@mominabutt5021how is it wrong english tho? The first question, you just pick the sentence that gives you wrong info. All of it was correct English. And the second example about the “flow” was bit weird because like he said “what is the flow?” I thought “which sentence does not belong in this text?”which would be advertisements. But even tho English is my native language I would fail this exam as I wouldn’t be able to analyse the question’s meaning and the text’s meaning and answer all in approx. 1.5 minutes/question. These 2 questions alone took me 10 minutes. Idk…these don’t feel too different from actual essay questions I’ve gotten. But I feel bad Korean students are the ones doing these….why?
@@Denturess yeah man I feel the same, like they don’t seem wrong and by all of the rules English has they are valid sentences it but they are just, not even bad just wrong. This is like beyond the syntax wrong. My best guess is that someone wrote English perfectly but with Korean language meaning/mindset or something. Just a guess maybe it’s easier for Koreans to have it like this.
As a teacher in the US I love these British high schoolers. They are very well spoken and seem well mannered also. I'm sure, like all of us they have their moments! But they really do shine and have wonderful, charismatic personalities! And they are correct... I think our educational system in the west has slipped, but perhaps the Korean system could lighten up just a bit ... I hate to hear of young people being so, so stressed and even potentially harming themselves because of exams that will not necessarily determine your whole future. Stay strong and fighting!
I'm a year 12 student in the UK, these British 'high schoolers' are so well mannered but that's kinda rare to find. I'm pretty sure s lot of the higher schoolers in the US are nice and well mannered :). I just have to say though- I answered the first Korean question truthfully read all the sentences and answered number 3. Surprised I got it right. I think this test would be harder for people in Korea because English isn't their first language but if you were taught to learn and revise in this teaching style you could definitely ace a multiple question choice paper in 70 minutes. Question and exam paperd in the UK are never multiple choice.
@@tae_taecookies1238 Really ?? Cause here in France, it depending of which school you want to atend. There's 2 ways: 1 -> people who want the best "prépa " in order to atend the most selective school of the country (like H.E.C, Polytechnique, Normal supérieur...). 2 -> people who directly after the baccalauréat go to the university and after try to enter in a selective school. Cause here, you can't go directly to certain selective school after the baccalaureat, you need to firstly go to the university. Personally I'm in law and I want to enter in the E.N.M (very selective one, there's only 200 places) in order to be a public prosecutor or a judge.
@Bibigobibi근데 막상 해석해보면 말도 안되는 온갖 미사여구를 갖다 붙여서 해석의 혼란을 만드는 문단들만 따와서 출제자 입장 딴에는 점수 변별력 만을 위해 꼬이고 꼬인 지문을 낸거죠? ^^.. 사실상 해외에서 연구를 하면서 도서관에 코박고 한 박사학위 논문을 꼭 봐야할 필요가 없는 이상 저것을 해석해서 점수를 따고 이것은 영어를 위한 영어문제이다. 정말 말도 안되는 아이러니한 문제 방식이죠^^ 원어민들 왈 질문의 흐름에 맞는 답이 없다는 것. 말 그대로 이것도 답같고 저것도 답같고 지문은 꼬이고 꼬여서 원어민 조차 이게 뭔데 굳이? 정도면.. 이걸 .. 왜.. 영어 교육 시스템이 이만큼 망가졌다는 증거 아니겠습니까. 원문이 엉터리 인지 아닌지는 중요하지 않죠. 실생활에 도움이 안되니. 성리학을 엄청 버무린 책을 실학이 한창 유행이며 각광받으며 온갖 대단한 업적을 기록할 시점에 던져주며 익혀라 이거와 너무 흡사하지 않습니까?
I wasn't expecting humour but ended up laughing at their reactions. They're so lively and engaging, best of luck to them and students taking this exam !
This was fun to watch. Although, I do agree with one of the comments here that these tests are designed and trained in a way that doesn't really help the student to learn the language but memorize how to do the test by following its patterns through mock exams and possibly past papers. SO for the Fulham boys, please don't be disheartened and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
As a Korean med student who’s never lived outside of Korea before, I’d always finish this exam(45 questions) in like 40~50 minutes and go to sleep. The thing is, these students in the video were all new to the questions and the exam itself, but actually the order&pattern of questions are always the same, each year. Only the passages are new. So the students would take loads of mock tests before actually taking the exam, and train so that they’d know where to look at/read even when they’re facing an unfamiliar passage. It’s more like training for the exam itself and not studying a language 😂 Some of my friends nailed the test and wouldn’t be able to have a small talk with native English speakers +)This doesn't mean that the exam itself would be easy though, since u still have to be able to comprehend all those sentences and vocabularies. For most students that is hard enough 유학 갔다 온 적 없고 항상 수능영어 40~50분컷 하던 의대생의 입장에서 말해보자면 수능영어 준비는 영어 공부보다는 훈련에 가까운 것 같아요 😂 영국 학생들은 수능 자체가 완전 낯선 상황이지만, 사실은 매년 문제유형도 위치도 같아서 한국 학생들은 지문을 다 읽지 않고도 새로운 지문을 만났을 때 어디부터 읽어야할지를 아니까요. 적어도 계속해서 그걸 위해 연습하고요! 그러다보니 대부분의 수능 과목이 그렇겠지만 영어는 특히 실제 실력보다는 누가누가 시험 준비 잘했나의 경쟁인 듯해요
Whatt so it beats the purpose of actually teaching and making them learn English? Exams are so impractical huhu God bless and good luck to all Korean students out there, fighting!!
That's actually very similar with the exams to apply for uni in my country. Every subject has its own pattern, students can almost remember, for example, what question #15 would be about (it'd be a different question every year, but from exactly the same part of materials). I hate it so baaad it's really stressful but many people would probably pass the exams pure by luck.
In the Philippines, we study the English language so that we can apply it in our daily lives. Not only a means to pass your studies or get good grades. One can learn better if what we're learning in school is more practical and can be applied outside school. That's the point why we study right? I hope the Korean education system will be improved for the sake of the students, it might be frustrating for them.
I’m soo sorry for the students. Who made the exam pattern tho. I mean I don’t understand the objective of them making the exam like that. Even academic papers don’t use language like that. Even government budget plans don’t use this kind of language. Whyyyy
I have no trouble finding the right answers, probably bcs my school also use the same type of questions for our english exam. Once you understand the pattern u can get the answer by glance. The different is, korean use non practical words to make the passage looks harder bc sometimes u really dont have to understand the whole paragraph to get the answer. you only need to choose which one stand out more. Which mean, the whole exam doesn’t test their understanding and comprehension of the language itself.
I used to teach English in Korea and even assisted with test preperation at the middle school level (format is all the same starting in middle school) and I think there is a misconception about English education in Korea. Korean students aren't taught English to speak it, they are taught in regards to what is seen as eductional prestige in their country (what looks good on paper, that can propel and solidify your employment in an elite company). Most Korean students don't care about learning English for communication purposes (many students score high on the English part, yet have no plans of stepping foot outside of the country) they care about "learning English" for presitge, high-end job placement and the status it gives. Students who actually WANT to learn English or know how to speak English, don't learn through school; they learn in their own time through hobbies, media, engagement, immersion, high interest in the language and being very open to speaking with native speakers whenever possible (just like things you would do if you wanted to genuinely learn a new language).
I agree. If you wanna learn how to speak and communicate in English, you should go abroad, not studying for the exam. For English proficiency, IELTS is actually valid in my opinion. In fact, many people who have lived abroad understand what the problem is. So many educated Koreans are deciding to live abroad for educational purpose. But the funny thing is, I found people tried to justify this problematic English exam. They are saying like "The exam tries to evaluate students' academic paper reading skills." "The exam pursues on finding people who has high intelligence." None of these arguments doesn't make sense.
It's the same thing here in Malaysia. The rigidly official English taught in middle schools are boring and most students who are fluent English speaker don't actually learned it from school. They learned from watching movies, listening to music or any hobby that is usually presented in English. I myself didn't learn English from school, it was boring and taught by mostly unqualified English teachers
@@nagnusyo that's interesting to note. An acquaintance of mine scored just average level of proficiency in the Malaysian English test. But she managed to be a top scorer in the IELTS in Malaysia and won monetary award.
Korean language will sound funny and strange if they are taught to speak it, because codeswitching is very much possible, like what we do here in the Philippines, here, English is very much necessary for communication purposes, in preschool upto the end of elementary the rules are very strict compared to highschool to college, its necessary to speak in english only, if you speak in filipino or in any other filipino lang, they give you such creative punishments, like paying money everytime you talk in filipino or you're the badge holder 👀
Ikr? Not a native English speaker here but hey I learnt English the same way. Fun fact: I was actually the English topper of my school in 10th grade & I was surprised Imao
i feel like all of their individual humour and charm has finally came out here and it is so nice to watch!!! thank you lads for bringing some laughter and smile to my face, wishing you all the very best as you spend this final year prepping for your A levels!
Question one - Number 3. It makes more than enough sense. None of it seems massively incorrect, it just uses terminology and speech patterns most people don’t. Give this test to a solicitor and see how they do, I bet they’d smash it.
I was thinking number 1 because it’s the only one that centers it’s subject on something other than humor itself/qualities of humor, and rather focuses on the example’s story and what reactions it evoked.
its not about being incorrect its just way too unnecessary, even native speakers are struggling. that just shows how irrelevant it is and sometimes the sentences barely make sense and most answers are correct in one way or another
@@jcorrea6515 I literally did not understand the question properly so I focused on the English itself (as it's supposed to be an English test). 1 should have read "...at face value..." instead of "on its face"; 2 had the weird last few words "...and do not." added to the end, which doesn't flow properly either. Obviously I didn't understand what 'flow' we were even supposed to be looking at! :D
Once these boys graduate and move on, they'll be the Gen One of this series you guys have started. They are funny, open-minded, and an absolute delight to watch. I hope you find ways to still bring them on the show together or maybe even that trip to Korea you and Josh promised in writing for Max and Armand. What an amazing thing your team has started!
I think they really are planning for this trip to happen for the older students. Since it's their last year, they might do something for summer vacation after graduation which obviously is the best time to go for younger people.
Max’s optimistic nuggets of wisdom warms the heart. He’s like the goodest boy, and an Ollie Jr. at the same time, cos Ollie is also an optimistic ball of sunshine. We need more of them in the world.❤️
I love how comfortable these students are with Josh and Ollie. I'm going to miss them when they go off to university. Still hoping they get to film a series where they go to Korea (as promised).
I'm going to miss these year 13 boys bcs they are graduating soon. This group made me laugh so much, I really love the series. I wish all the luck to them and also can't help but hope I see them on more videos ❤️ thanks for great content as always!
You graduate in year 11 do your gcse exams then go to sixth if you want to go to university (year 12-13) and take a levels some schools have their own sixth forms like this one
As an educator who teaches teenage boys, I found this incredibly funny and entertaining. These boys' reactions remind me 100% of how my students here in Australia would react! Their honesty and humour are such a delight. As for the sentence structure of the passage that was read out, it was incredibly complex, weaving its way, this way and that (I think I was able to follow it 😅). Oh and that TicTok app story had me in stitches!
@@Kimchibokumbab Yes to some people, but not to all of people I guess. I knew people who live a normal, happy and successful life even without passing the exams.
The test isn’t just “hard.” It expects Korean students to correctly analyze formal texts _full_ of logical inconsistencies and improper word usage. Like putting “while” between two harmonious sentence components (“then” would make much more sense). The sentence structure does not follow a consistent rhythmic style, making reading difficult whether you speak native English or not. The text isn’t just verbose, but overloaded with information that isn’t supported by necessary stylistic organization.
It's not even that complex if you look at the question they showed on screen. It's similar to IQ test questions. It's just a little bit tricky, you need to take your time and really focus. The kids were more interested in joking around than taking the test seriously, because 1) the results have zero effect for them and 2) the video needs to be entertaining.
search up "Check your English ability with 'notorious' Korean college entrance exam" and the korean times article that pops up should be correct, they translate the questions for you and you can check your answers in the parentheses where it says to click 'here'.
It's funny how Armand is known to be the top of his class as well as being head boy and even Harvey acknowledged how prepared he'd be... ...then a minute later he was struggling big time. Lol
I just attempted the test and i was surprised how difficult it was. My parents are korean and studied the english there before moving to the US. Personally, the test was manageable and i did decently well (missing only a few questions). In retrospect the only reason i did well is because my parents are literature teachers and i have been reading since I was two. This just goes to show that it doesnt mean people in Korea have a better equipped English skill set, it just shows how unbelievably strict and high the standards have been set for Korean students.
No the way of your thinking is incorrect, its not about speaking english like a normal person, its taking the definition to the maximum, like making the question as hard as possible
As a native English speaker, the English on this exam is incorrect. Please do not follow this exam and how it uses English. Someone said it correct earlier, it shows you how to read English, not to properly speak it or understand.
초딩 때였나? 영국인들이 수능 푸는 거 보면서 난 정말 평생 겪지 않을 일처럼 느껴졌는데 수능이 7일 남았다니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 같은 학생들이라 그런지 더 공감해 주고 힘내라고 하는 게 더 와닿아요!! 수능 성적 제발 10모대로 나오고 수능 다음날 나오는 대학 합격하길... 🙏🏻
지나가던 고2 학생인데요! 저희학교가 수능장으로 쓰인다고해서 짐 다 빼고 청소하니 기분이 싱숭생숭하더라고요! 고2인 저도 그런데 고3선배님 기분은 어떨지 감히 상상도 안되네요 꼭 수능에서 좋은 성적 받기를 바래요 선배님! 대학 합격 하면 꼭 알려주세요 ㅎㅎ!! 수능 대박 기원 할게요!!❤️❤️
I’m not Korean, but this is what I just needed. “Failure isn’t that bad. “ I nearly failed one of my midterm exams and I’m so discouraged. It’s just the first of four days. 😭
@@김도희-c3f I am using the google translate feature to understand what you are saying and it reads “I admit” which to me does not make sense. Is there any other way you could say what you mean to say?
This high school series brings back memories of going through my own A Level exam. I wouldn’t want to go back to those 6 paper exams but high school was definitely one of the best time of my life
it’s not about learning a language, it’s learning the pattern of the exam. i’m not korean and never took this exam, but i can tell for sure that u shldnt be reading the whole passage from top to bottom for every question. u look at the question first and then look at the parts of the passage that is relevant. this is what korean students do and what the exam board wants them to do. it’s basically a logical thinking exam in english. if u know the pattern and know how to answer these question types, then even if u can’t speak english or know the language well, u can do well in the test. this is why many kpop stars can’t speak english in interviews and only those who lived in english speaking countries before can. they aren’t trained to speak english, they are trained to take this exam that isn’t even testing their english
I am from nepal , that exactly how it is taught . I was fortunate enough to be in school that did give us passages thag were diverse but like in the bored exam its more about if you know the patern or not , the thing that you mentioned about reading the questions first is the key and knowing that the first questions answer is always in the first to 4 line is the knowledge thaf you get . Nepal in the state that you even have a book to tell you the answer and coping the answers a praized more that writing it yourself,English is the only exam i have never studied for till this date , teachers predict the questions and its normally93% accurate. Its basically can you mug ut up at this point , not the thing that you would want for the betterment of your future
This is why I think many of these exams and thus the education systems fail to teach students proper skills to navigate the world after graduating. Students have to spend hours learning these pattern which will not be very translatable to life skills. The exam is just not accurate in assessing the student's actual English skill. If the questions are geared towards testing the students' ability to say construct sentences that are precise and easy to understand, writing passages that sounds graceful, comprehend older literature etc, those will be very useful.
We have a similar test here in Texas that you have to take every year, but starting in 2nd grade it starts to count as an actual grade. We’re tested on reading, writing, math, science and history. A lot of times for the reading and writing I would do the same thing to to the part of the passage that the question was sending me to. 🤣
Ohhh that's why! I'm from India and in our country we are made to write 120-150 words answer of a question given which test our grammatical, vocabulary and how we express ourselves
Going to miss these lads, Max, Armand and everyone else. Enjoyed every second of each episodes they're in. All the best on your future endeavors! You guys will do well, failure is not everything and at the end of the day "Health is Wealth" 😁😁
It really is a shame that Korean students spend YEARS learning English that they can’t use in a practical way. They work so hard yet when they want to go in for an interview in English or make English speaking friends, they can’t apply what they spent years learning in school. It’s definitely time to reevaluate the academic system and curriculum in Korea.
I agree. That's why I always tell my students (in Malaysia) that doing well in ur English exam =/= fluent in the language. You might be good in theory, but if you don't actually practice speaking it, there's literally no use to the theory
Not necessarily. Problem with Korean English is that a lot of Koreans are conservative and shy ppl and lack of confidence when it comes to speaking. As soon as they overcome these issues, they’re extremely well spoken.
I agree too. I was chatting with my friend that is a student in Korea and she not necessarily have the best grammer and vocabulary all those. But when she show me her English homework I was shocked because I had a difficult time understand it
yes it is ridiculous!! their English tests are so much harder than ours here in Sweden yet Sweden is top 2 of the countries with the best english for second language. Like why why are those tests so hard if most of them have a problem speaking English in the first place? It's like they have to study word association instead of the actual language that people use. I feel bad for them :(
웃으면서 봤는데 한 편으로 우리나라 아이들을 생각하면 마음이 무겁네요ㅠㅠ 점수에 상처받는 아이들이 단 한명도 없길, 모두가 원하는 성적 이룰 수 있길, 점수가 인생의 전부가 아니니 힘내서 그 시간이 지나면 훌훌털어버리길 부디 바래봅니다🥺 시험성적보다 자신의 장점, 강점을 발견해서 더 큰 세상에 발을 내딛고 많은 경험으로 성장하는 우리나라 청소년들이 됐으면 좋겠네요!! 이번 수능도 전국 모든 고3 수험생들이 준비한 만큼 아니 그것보다 더 좋은 성적 거두시길 진심으로 응원하고 기도할게요!!!🙏🏻
I'm a non-native speaker of English and maybe "flow" isn't the best expression to pick in the eyes of a native speaker, but I get what they meant and found it quite obvious that the correct answer was number three. Did you read the question?
@@camelopardalis84 Looking it over again, I agree that question 3 must be the correct answer, but "flow" seems like it would refer to ease of readability. He kept getting caught up in the beginning because none of the sentences had good flow. A better question would replace the word "flow" with "topic".
The channel actually hand picks the most difficult questions from the exam, and giving the median time to answer them 1min/question. In reality the test comprises of a lot of easy questions that can be answered within seconds. Thus even being wrong at all the complicated ones doesn’t immediately equate failing as it can be compensated by the easier ones. Trust me, I’m currently attending college in SK and have lots of korean friends!
I don't know if anyone caught it but the first question was almost exactly something you would be asked on the SAT in the U.S. I am sure the rest of the exam is much more difficult than the SAT as many prepare for over a year and still fail. Good luck for anyone taking the CSAT or the SAT/ACT!
No matter what country are you, their reactions are so relatable 🤣 Harvey: "No cheating, alright?" Tobi: "Wait, hold on. What is this?" "I put 2 coz I copied Alex" Ray: "I'm just gonna do it with my eyes closed, whichever one my pen lands on." Orlando: "I got you bro. Number 4 for number 10. I did number 3. Alex, do number 5. One of us will get it right." I can imagine Malachi trying the exam 😂
중학교때부터 영어시간에 쌤들이 영국남자를 정말 많이 보여주셨는데…아마 저랑 같은 고3 중에 영국남자를 모르는 학생은 없을 거예요 영국에 또다른 친구들이 수능 문제를 푸는 것도 신기하고 영상으로 별 얘기 안 해도 영국과 우리나라의 문화가 다른 것이 느껴져서 되게 신선하네요 진짜 이 지옥같은 수험생활 고3도 힘들지만 N수생들도 정말 힘들 것 같아요ㅎㅎ뭔가 영국남자를 오랫동안 봐온 것에 대한 응원의 선물처럼 느껴져서 좋아요 감사합니다ㅎ
한국의 교육은 철저히 잘못되었음 세상엔 길이 많다는걸 아이들에게 알려줘야 하는데 공부를 못하면 그 길도 못가게 만들어놓은 사회 시스템 고등학교까지는 기본적인것을 배우고 사회성,도덕성 이런 인간으로서 지키며 살아가야할 최소한의 것들을 배우면서 친구들과 어울리고 놀고 같이 여행도 다니고 그러면서 세상을 배우고 내가 하고 싶은게 뭔지 깨닫고 그 길에 대학이라는 고등지식을 요구 한다면 대학교를 가는것이고 한국 사회는 공부 - 공부 - 공부 - 대학 - 대학원or 취업 자영업을 한다던지? 기술을 배운다던지?농사일을 한다던지 이런 목표를 가지고 있는 학생들은 없음 왜냐하면 교육 자체가 전부 공부 - 대학으로만 초점이 맞춰져 있거든 그니깐 어린애들도 길이 이것밖에 없다고 느낌
This test does make sense in English, it’s just very weirdly worded and it took a lot of time to get through only because the language used was weird. In a sense, the first question would have been much easier if the passage said “Shared humor is a good way for people to bond together because 1. Humor helps make people share their experiences 2. Makes people feel included in a group 3. Humor is good to use in commercials 4. Shared humor is almost a requirement in a group setting. This wording makes it super obvious which one doesn’t fit. But the thing is that when formal language is used, people who aren’t used to it have a harder time understanding what exactly is being said. Since it’s said in a way that no one ever talks in that language. It even took me a second to understand the first part of the passage honestly and the difference in test formatting did not help. In conclusion, shout out to Koreans for surviving this testing experience. You all are getting scammed 😅 stay healthy, sleep well, and all that good stuff
Ikr😂 But that's true,non-native speakers like me learn more English ,I mean the way that sounds natural and not forced by exposure to cinema,music rather than through textbooks.
교복입고 지내는 모든 시간이 행복했으면 좋겠습니다. 저의 지난 학창 시절을 생각해보면 이 영상속 친구들 만큼 밝진 못했던 것 같아요. 제 아들은, 제 딸은 학창 시절이 늘 즐겁고 밝을 수 있도록 돕고 싶습니다. 그런 의미에서 매우 좋은 메시지를 주신 컨텐츠라고 생각합니다. 참여해주신 모든 학생들과 영국남자 제작진에 진심으로 감사드립니다.
제가 수능'들'을 보던 시절에 이 컨텐츠가 얼마나 큰 위로가 됐는지 모르실 거예요. 영어만 일등급이 안 나오고, 그 누구도 제가 왜 '영어'를 못하는지 모르는 상황에서 여러번 절망하고 무너졌었거든요. 흔히 얘기하는 '분석력'을 위해서 진짜 영어를 포기하고 사는 게 참 힘들 때 영국남자의 수능 컨텐츠들을 보면서 버텼습니다. 많은 분들이 동의하실 거예요! 앞으로도 좋은 컨텐츠 계속 만들어주시길 바라요! 계속 응원하겠습니다😊😊
As a Kenyan, I read that passage and immediately knew the answer. I think the way English has been taught in countries where it isn't the native language is just really intense and formal. 😅 I will say though, it gets less verbose for us as you get into high school and only gets weird again when writing papers in university! 😂
yeah generally for non-native speakers it’s simpler. that’s why when immigrants come to the US they question why the curriculum is so easy compared to their place back home. 😭 i’m going for nigerians because that’s what i’m but they make me feel extra stupid when they come to america and understand things so easily. i’ve even noticed this with indian immigrants they make you feel like you’re failing and it’s literally a secondary language to them. 😭 it’s really crazy.
English is my primary language but I could also understand the questions pretty well. I’m in college though and have a lot of practice reading dense research papers. Maybe when it’s your native language, you’re used to barely having to focus to understand so it’s difficult without practice to focus more? Versus with a second language, you’ve always put more focus into it.
As a Foreigner, after learning 12 years of English I can confirm that these SAT tests are absolute cringe and useless in teaching you anything of use in life. One is better off reading off of comic strips found in an abandoned run down bathroom. No wonder the general skill level of foreigners is so pathetic.
That passage is filled with unnecessary big words that are not only repeated over and over again to cause confusion but aren't really necessary. The gist of the entire first passage is simply "Life experiences brings people together and when a funny moment is experienced by a group of people, their bonds are much stronger." I guess I can only say that now after my brain has developed a more at 29 but there really isn't any need to have these big words in a passage like that...
not from korea, but the passages just feel badly written in my opinion. shoving random words and making simple concepts obtuse in a passage doesn't make it more intelligent, it just confuses the reader and makes the passage fail at it's purpose (to inform/to describe). one example of this is "One team told repeated stones about a dumpster fire, something that does not seem funny on its face, but the reactions of workers motivated to preserve safety sparked laughter as the stories were shared multiple times by multiple parties in the workplace." First sentence, seems fine. Second sentence, also fine. Third sentence: - goes on for too long, making it wordy - has extra information that aren't clearly marked (workers are motivated to preserve safety), making that part even harder to follow - looks like it's just trying to increase the word count ("were shared multiple times by multiple parties in the workplace", or ya know, just say "were shared across the whole workplace")
I used to study for the SAT for an entire year in high school. I agree that most of the vocab and reading were not very practical in daily use. I guess they were just trying to test our reading comprehension and critical thinking skills rather than the language itself. There were tips and tricks to go through the reading quickly, and after like hundreds of problems you'd become quite efficient in solving them xD A lot of the passages were taken from the classics as well, so the language always felt archaic and overcomplicated.
@@tuvu8394 I definitely agree with the critical thinking skills aspect of the passage. If that was what was being tested then I can see how this applies.
I have a coworker that grew up in China. He would use a thesaurus to find big complex words to try to sound smarter in an email. It definitely is really weird concept. I also never understood teachers who would require a 30 page essay in college when you can easily make a better easy work 20 in America. Quantity over quality never made sense to me.
Hopefully we'll see these boys again, especially Armand, he's been requesting a trip to Korea xD Hopefully, one day Josh, Ollie and the crew can make that happen and teach Armand all the Korean drinking etiquettes. Bring Max too!
That goes to show that it's an unnecessarily difficult test. Imagine failing a test this badly when it's about your native language that you're fluent in. At that point it's the test that's bad not the test takers.
Fr, this is frustrating. We think so poorly of white people compared to asians that even when the test is this bad, we just assume the koreans can speak English better than the native speakers. So ignorant
As an American, I can assure you that 99% of Americans (and probably anyone growing up in an English speaking country) would score less than 20% on the reading comprehension and writing portion of the SATs (*which is an exam created in America*). That just goes to show that America's level of education is sad, and that you probably need to stop being so ignorant and try to blame others for your ineptitude (although being ignorant and blaming everyone else is very American LOL)😢.
It's not ‘difficult’, it's just wrong. English is what English speakers speak; if English speakers don't understand your English test, you aren't testing English.
Coming from asia and now living in England, there’s a significant difference in work-life balance. In the Philippines, Highschool was 7am-5:30pm then the clubs or sports. College/University was 7am-7pm. Then I went to the UK and I think mental health is much emphasized here. They know you are supposed to have a life outside school or work. It may be different now tho
@@soleil8596 traffic is bad as well. I had to get up at 5-5:30am for school and arrive home at 7pm. That is if you don’t have any extracurricular activities such as clubs and sports varsities.
Interesting. My high school (g7-10, pre-K-12) was 7:30-3:30 (dismissal changed every year but more or less was in between 3:20 and 3:40) then extracurricular “9th period” would be an additional 50 minutes after 8th period. And that’s it.
@@nmplab we have a schedule like that but only once a week. But then I have to stay a bit because I have to wait for others to finish due to our school service
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조쉬님 안녕하세요,, 제가 영국남자를 중1때 구독한것 같은데 제가 어느덧 고3이 되었네요. 수능 컨텐츠 볼때마다 “아, 나도 고3이 될 때가 있겠지..?” 하면서 봤었는데 막상 수능이 다가오니 긴장되네요. 이번에도 수능 컨텐츠 찍어주셔서 너무 감사합니다!!
어느때나 영국남자 팬이니까 하시는거 모두모두 응원할게요. 영국남자 파이팅!!
수능 화이팅!!
댓글이라도 써서 응원을 보냅니다 꼭 잘보세요!
ㅠㅠ공부하느라 넘 고생 많았어요 수능 화이팅!!!!!!!
유튜브 끄세요..
@@헥셔내린 수능 컨텐츠 기다렸다구요!!!!
This isn't showing that Koreans have a better understanding of English than British people, it's just showing that their tests are unnecessarily hard and obviously focus on aspects of English that are completely irrelevant. If you have a test that somebody who is fluent in the language cant pass while somebody who is not can, then the test is doing a bad job at determining your skill in that test.
The problem is that ppl that create those test are themselves pretty poor in English. While the answers are formally correct, as well as a use of grammar and syntax, the phrasing, the use of vocabulary and particularly semantics are totally inaccurate.
Very true! And the real testament is that most or many Koreans do not speak fluent English by the time they’re done with school. As a contrast, I started studying English in Russia at 9. By the time I moved to the US at 15 I was fluent so much so that I could take trigonometry during my sophomore year, my first year in the US, without difficulty. It seems like this test is not at all indicative of the actual knowledge of the English language.
Exactly!!
PERIODD
@@perakojot6524 The point of the exam is to make sure the person who is learning the language can actually have a process of thinking in that specific language. We can all learn the vocabulary of a certain language easily but it’s difficult to actually think in that language.
일상영어: 나는 배고프다.
수능영어: 나는 나의 허기로 인해 나의 배 속에 무언가를 채워 충족시켜야할 필요성을 느끼고 있는 중이다.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
빙고
맞아, 한국어능력시험도 똑같아 ㅋㅋㅋ
literally hahahha
ㅋㅋㅋ근데 정말 세살버릇 여든가는게요, 외국나오니 복잡한 상황에 처했을때, 깔끔하고 핵심적인 문장이 바로 안나와요.
"These guys aren't students, bro"
"They come here, they'll be teaching me English, i swear"
I'M DYING LMAOOOO
WHEN DID THEY SAY THIS LMAO
@@elaine.e near the end just a few seconds before
🤣
BYE 😭
@@dkwhattouseasusername1012 9:26
여기서 나오는 학생분들이 그나마 한국 학생들의 심정을 대변하는 느낌이라서 위로가 되는 느낌이네요..... 그런 김에 한국 수능 수학 문제 풀기 가죠.
저도요
id slap the shit out of someone if they actually spoke to me like this 🤦♀️🤦♀️
당신 제일 잔인해ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I love what max said, “Exams aren’t the end of the world” and “Health is wealth”. So true. That boy’s got his priorities right!
truee🤣
Not when you are about to get disown.
What Max said is very true, except for in Korea. That Soonung (Korean SAT) test is unfortunately everything. It dictates their whole future and what university they can go to. The questions on that test are ridiculous. I have a Masters in TESOL, and I tried a bunch of questions from it. I barely got half of them correct. It's a test Korea needs to rethink and make it more like the English we use, and not the Korean/Japanese mathematical English they teach in Korea.
@@typhus1965 so true, not even half of those odd words (sounds like a words that came out from Harry potters movie) is usefull in daily life.
trust me, in my work place i use english daily basis, but that exam is just riddicullusly wierd.
Lmao I need to hear this before I move out of university
This has to be the best promotion ever for any school in the UK. The personality of these boys just shines. Very well spoken, having a lot of fun, engaging, supportive, articulate, smart, energetic and living life. Full credit to the school leadership and the culture. This is amazing.
except they seem to be quite dumb
@@flodderr the Korean English test itself didn’t even follow grammatical rules
@@flodderr u saying this makes you dumb srsly
@@flodderr a Korean English test is extremely different to an English exam in the UK, they’re just not used to it. English a levels r very hard too
@@flodderr I read this kinds of tests from my korean friends and tbh I found a lot of grammatical errors and words that are just put up just to look formal or eloquent, furthermore it’s torture to put students to this kinds of tests especially if they don’t even speak a lick of english in their everyday life. No wonder my korean classmates are scared to speak in english because they’re scared to make mistakes
I’m going to miss this class. They were a bunch of lovely and respectful boys. Wishing them all the best.
All this test proved is that cultural bias exists in standardized testing. Here we have English students that have shown good deduction skills, cognitive understanding and problem solving. The test is formatted to help Korean students not to read the text but to decipher what keywords and clues will lead to the pre-generated answers. It does not encourage independent thought or comprehension. It produces good test takers that follow directions without question.
Exactly, but also that’s lowkey how schools and higher education works in general. I remember taking one of my final examples in English and it was tbh quite similar to this (I’m German). As a native speaker you get quite lost, because you’re not trained into finding those keywords.
Schooling is about recollecting memories and realizing patterns, they don’t encourage independent thinking at least in exams, because it’s quite impossible to standardize that and give grades accordingly.
Not really. The SAT tests for “scholastic aptitude” - by way of logic and verbal reasoning. They are somewhat testing your grasp of vocabulary and grammar but the real point of the “reading comprehension” section is to test your critical thinking. It is actually a good primer to the formal academic writing you will encounter in university, ie reading theory in the humanities or social sciences. As far as measuring “independent thought” typically there is a writing portion as well where the focus is more on rhetorical ability.
source: I barely tried in school but I aced my SATs... (I will say that the structure of these exams is more geared toward those with a knack for logic, puzzles, word games etc.)
Nope
That's exactly hobwit was for us, I had to think like a teacher to solve the exams
I'm an english teacher in korea - some of these kids don't even know the names of the letters in the alphabet, but will read full passages and pass exams.
The way the curriculum is taught to these kids is absolutely ridiculous. Some of my top scoring students can't even hold a basic conversation in English, yet they would easily be able to do this reading section at the drop of a hat. Memorization and robotic test prep isn't really about learning the language at all.
I heard this from friends who've taught in korea as well. Absolutely excel in written "textbook" English but can't hold a basic conversation. They need to revise their teaching methods. I suddenly remember my Spanish teach from high school. She never spoke a word of English and emphasized conversation and interactive lessons. We hardly read from textbooks or workbooks.
Why do they do that?
But foreign language learning in many places doesn't help anyone to speak that foreign language. I'm from the Caribbean, and we learn Spanish and French on my island for yearsssss but no one can actually speak any of those languages. It is simply part of the curriculum.
I just feel a bit bad to see so many people coming down on Korea specifically, when I think the real issue is that: teaching a foreign language in school for a couple hours a week, with students having no way to practice said language, leads to students being unable to speak said foreign language.
Edit:
I just want to let you know that I know my comment was unnecessary. I totally got your point, I just felt like defending them for some reason lol.
Good point. Im 100% agree with you.
look, as you c theirs so many Korean ppl replyed negative for korean ENG SAT test has problem and so many opposite replyed also(they are replayed as Korean)
but no one replyed your opinion. which mean's your saying is 100% correct.
한글로 쓴 뎃글중 수능 영어가 문제 있다는 뉘앙스의 글엔 50~60개씩 반박 뎃글 달리는데, 한국에서 영어 가르치는 미국 영어 강사가 한국 영어 교육 문제 있다는 영어 글엔 반박뎃글 하나도 안달리네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 앞에 뎃글들 좀 읽어 봤는데 원문이고 나발이고 그런건 중요 한게 아니고 한국어를 쓰는 우리가 영어를 왜 공부하는지 가장 원초적인 이유를 망각했다는게 중요함 나도 29살때 미국 와서 11년쩨 미국 사는데 10년 넘게 배운 영어가 미국에서 단 1도 도움이 안된다는게 사실이고 앞에서 외국 살아본 분들의 말이 100% 맞음 우리가 영어를 왜 공부하는데? 논문 읽고 에쎄이 쓰고 외국 대학가서 원어민 니들도 못푸는 문제 내가 푼다 나는 저세상 영어 할줄 알아(근데 아무도 사용안하고 아무도 중요하게 여기지 않는 영어) 이거 하려고 공부함?
일단 기본적으로 영어를 쓰고 읽고 말하려고 배우는건데 한국 고등학생들 10년 넘게 공부하면서 할줄 아는게 뭔데? 읽을줄 아는데 배운대로 쓰면 이거 뭔소리냐고 다시 써오라고 하고 말은 한마디도 못하고 이거 문제 있는거잖아 나 한국인인거 자랑스럽고 대한민국 너무 사랑하는데 인정할건 인정 하자 대한민국 영어 교육 영어를 배우는 교육이 아니고 영어라는 이름의 한국식 배배꼬아만든 시험을 풀줄알게만 가르치는 교육일 뿐임.
@@ittybittymouthful My Spanish teacher was the same. Our speaking grade was measured by how much Spanish we spoke to her and each other in class, so that really was a good motivator. She also taught outside the textbook and our lessons were based on discussing articles, literature, and video media from around the Spanish speaking world, which was cool because we got to learn vocabulary differences between European Spanish and Latin American Spanish (and even within Latin America there were some major differences). I still remember a lot of my Spanish today thanks to her teaching style.
이걸보고 전세계 공통점을 알게 됬다
1 문제가 잘풀리지 않으면 두손으로 머리를 쥐어잡고 짠다
2 집중할려면 귀를 막는다
3 에라 모르겠다 답을 찍는다
4 하교후 나의 일을 선생님과 남에게 들키고 싶지 않다 ^^
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
오 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
that sums it up 😂
There’s no way Armand is even real this dudes straight out of a comic
I hope everyone here pays off! Thanks for entertaining us all on the show!! GOOD LUCK IN UR FUTURES :)
that is sooo truee!
He looks like a guy from a book cover. You know those mafia books. I kid you not.
OMG IKR!!!
I'm convinced that Armand is having some kind of reverse isekai or sumn
@@chibunayo9464 what is that?
I knew several Koreans in grad school who could barely communicate in English, made elementary grammar mistakes, but had fantastic verbal scores on the GRE because they basically just memorized long lists of archaic words that only ever show up on tests like that. It's simultaneously so impressive and also so pointless that they do that. Other than the actual exam, that time could be so put to so much better use, even if just to learn English.
They can most definitely read english. This test has nothing to do with speaking english so they most likely dont know how to pronounce each alphabetical letter and say a setence. Remember, never in this test was it a verbal test
Also you saying that they could put the time to better use is invalid as the main intention for them learning english may not be to communicate, but to read and understand english as english is written over almost every daily use items
Plus u only need to know super basic english to survive in the degenerate society we live in nowadays
they most likely do know how to communicate and use grammar, just dont know how to write or do extremely well with forming sentences. If you go to Korea, you most likely memorize terms and sentences, maybe a bit of formatting, but you dont really have to learn much besides that unless you go to school or work
@@trebleclef9844the english text on there felt like it was written by ai or smth lol
“Stress is the enemy”
“Exams aren’t the end of the world”
“Health is wealth”
- Max
Bro I was scrolling through the comments, and the second I came across it’s he said that
@@michaelraml4465 same 😂
"Stress is the enemy" was said by a complete idiot
@@baltimorewhisperer Truth
@@baltimorewhisperer too much stress can literally kill you so I’d say it’s not wrong
The British high schooler series are literally one of the best series I have ever watched..❤✨ They brought smile on my face just in a second watching them. Thank you Josh, Ollie and the entire team for this amazing series.. Please bring this boys to Korea to explore more of their culture and food..
I like this series too, so refreshing
right~~how lovely lovely boys they are~watching them with a big smile
I couldn't agree less, love them
@@la4598I think you mean “I couldn’t agree more”
Armand's words is just so powerful "failure isn't that bad, it's not the end of the world, you can do loads of things, especially in an exam like this, where you're judged on circling a number" damn...that's powerful...and I love what Max said "health is wealth"
그리고 당신은 입학 시험에 참가할 고등학생들에게 최고입니다. 인생은 어느 대학에 등록했느냐가 아닙니다. 시험에 낙제하더라도 할 수 있는 일이 많으니 낙심하지 말고 최선을 다하십시오.
In Asian culture failure literally means end of the world I swear 💀💀
@@whowantsbrowncheese1684 right? I worked in an elementary school in Korea and their futures are basically determined by the time they're in 5/6th grade based on these tests 😞
@@theplainest it’s pretty sad 😞
한국의 학생들은 공부에 의한 성공 아니면 실패라는 말을 들으면서 성장합니다. 그렇기 때문에 그들에게 시험은 세상의 모든 것입니다. 그렇기 때문에 시험을 잘 치지 못해서 최상위대학에 가지 못하면 실패한 인생이라고 스스로에게 실망하면서 성인으로서의 첫시작을 하는 사람들이 많습니다. 저 또한 그랬습니다.
It's such an obvious thing but sometimes it takes so much time to actually realize it (due to the peer pressure, school, parents, work etc.).
For those wondering about the English language used here, it isn’t to test your ability to fluently speak it in every day life but to understand scientific essay writing or similar as most books for these things are written in English. Hope that clears some questions
But the writing of exam is really poor even for academic writing standards. Writing like the one shown in the video is by no means good for academic publication.
But it’s not that the writing is super advanced or formal… it’s just plain wrong. It doesn’t make sense lol. You don’t want to be speaking gibberish in scientific essays.
I read only scientific papers in english, and my native language is not english. I have never seen one written like that.
@@mominabutt5021how is it wrong english tho? The first question, you just pick the sentence that gives you wrong info. All of it was correct English. And the second example about the “flow” was bit weird because like he said “what is the flow?” I thought “which sentence does not belong in this text?”which would be advertisements. But even tho English is my native language I would fail this exam as I wouldn’t be able to analyse the question’s meaning and the text’s meaning and answer all in approx. 1.5 minutes/question. These 2 questions alone took me 10 minutes. Idk…these don’t feel too different from actual essay questions I’ve gotten. But I feel bad Korean students are the ones doing these….why?
@@Denturess yeah man I feel the same, like they don’t seem wrong and by all of the rules English has they are valid sentences it but they are just, not even bad just wrong. This is like beyond the syntax wrong. My best guess is that someone wrote English perfectly but with Korean language meaning/mindset or something. Just a guess maybe it’s easier for Koreans to have it like this.
"Psychological harm."
"I should probably see someone about that."
Ray is hilarious. 😭
Yes LMAO😂
he looked delirious by the end of the video 😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
@@김휴일-v7f bruh why you spamming this like in every freaking comment section like-
since this is their last year, it's kinda sad we won't see them do challenges again :(
I'll miss Maxxx
seriously
does anyone know which year were they born in?
@@dungnguyenthimy9586 if they are (year 11 late 2005-2006) (year 12 late 2004-2005) (year 13 late 2003-2004)
@@_222wo3 oh yeah, thanks
As a teacher in the US I love these British high schoolers. They are very well spoken and seem well mannered also. I'm sure, like all of us they have their moments! But they really do shine and have wonderful, charismatic personalities! And they are correct... I think our educational system in the west has slipped, but perhaps the Korean system could lighten up just a bit ... I hate to hear of young people being so, so stressed and even potentially harming themselves because of exams that will not necessarily determine your whole future. Stay strong and fighting!
I'm a year 12 student in the UK, these British 'high schoolers' are so well mannered but that's kinda rare to find. I'm pretty sure s lot of the higher schoolers in the US are nice and well mannered :). I just have to say though- I answered the first Korean question truthfully read all the sentences and answered number 3. Surprised I got it right. I think this test would be harder for people in Korea because English isn't their first language but if you were taught to learn and revise in this teaching style you could definitely ace a multiple question choice paper in 70 minutes. Question and exam paperd in the UK are never multiple choice.
in korea the exams do determine their entire future :(
These tests do determine their futures. It’s like the SATs but then times worse. It is very competitive and one could even say cut throat.
Same here in our country "Algeria" we also have this "baccalauréat" exam which determines the future of your whole fuckin life!!
@@tae_taecookies1238 Really ?? Cause here in France, it depending of which school you want to atend. There's 2 ways: 1 -> people who want the best "prépa " in order to atend the most selective school of the country (like H.E.C, Polytechnique, Normal supérieur...). 2 -> people who directly after the baccalauréat go to the university and after try to enter in a selective school. Cause here, you can't go directly to certain selective school after the baccalaureat, you need to firstly go to the university. Personally I'm in law and I want to enter in the E.N.M (very selective one, there's only 200 places) in order to be a public prosecutor or a judge.
혹여나 우리나라 시험이 외국인도 인정할만큼 고난도라고 우쭐해하지 마세요. 원어민들이 말도 안된다 어렵다 이게 뭐냐 라고 말하는 건, 대단하다는 칭찬이 아니라, 말그대로 과목이 영어인데 시험 문제는 아무도 쓰지 않는 쓸모없는 영어, 즉 상당히 엉터리라는 겁니다.
ㅇㅈ
이게 맞는말
@Bibigobibi근데 막상 해석해보면 말도 안되는 온갖 미사여구를 갖다 붙여서 해석의 혼란을 만드는 문단들만 따와서 출제자 입장 딴에는 점수 변별력 만을 위해 꼬이고 꼬인 지문을 낸거죠? ^^.. 사실상 해외에서 연구를 하면서 도서관에 코박고 한 박사학위 논문을 꼭 봐야할 필요가 없는 이상 저것을 해석해서 점수를 따고 이것은 영어를 위한 영어문제이다. 정말 말도 안되는 아이러니한 문제 방식이죠^^ 원어민들 왈 질문의 흐름에 맞는 답이 없다는 것. 말 그대로 이것도 답같고 저것도 답같고 지문은 꼬이고 꼬여서 원어민 조차 이게 뭔데 굳이? 정도면.. 이걸 .. 왜.. 영어 교육 시스템이 이만큼 망가졌다는 증거 아니겠습니까. 원문이 엉터리 인지 아닌지는 중요하지 않죠. 실생활에 도움이 안되니. 성리학을 엄청 버무린 책을 실학이 한창 유행이며 각광받으며 온갖 대단한 업적을 기록할 시점에 던져주며 익혀라 이거와 너무 흡사하지 않습니까?
@Bibigobibi그래서 자부심 느껴도 된다는 거예요?? 한국 자살율이 높은 이유가 이런 이유입니다... 이런 거 볼 때마다 우리나라는 좋은 나라 라는 생각이 안 드네요...
@@불광동가오가이거 시험에 대한 불만 여기저기 배설하고 다니는 사람치고 잘하는 사람 없을듯 ㅋㅋㅋ
왜냐면 자기들이 못하는거에 대한 핑계가 필요하거든 ^^
Armand is that boy who everyone likes and does everything perfectly. He’s a real life protagonist. Lol
them Wattpad leading man!
main character energy
@@jia9420 your username hits hard 😕
his ig?
@@jia9420 more like second lead energy, cause the trend right now is f*ck boy
I wasn't expecting humour but ended up laughing at their reactions. They're so lively and engaging, best of luck to them and students taking this exam !
I really love Max and Armand tandem. No wonder why Armand is the headboy.
What is a head boy??
@@ivak8988 its basically the student that was chosen to be the face/representation for the school.
@@ivak8988 something similar to a school captain I think
Who is Armand
@@stacystacy6577 the handsome guy wearing glasses. the right one with smart n tidy uniform
영어권 친구들이 틀리는 영어문제라니..... 문제가 있는거같아요 ㅋㅋ
한국 고등학생들은 안됐음 ㅠㅜ
@@itssunny0319국어도 영어급으로 내니까 ㅋㅋ
Armand's face is brighter than my future
-3rd year Korean high school
수능콘텐츠 감사합니다 ㅠ 수능 잘보고 올게요 03화이팅!!
and he's also the head boy....life is unfair XDDDDD
I'll immigrate to England to see his face
수능 내일이시죠? 정말 떨리시겠어요ㅠ 그래도 노력하신 만큼 좋은 결과가 나올거에요 화이팅!
I think I died laughed
you got this!!! fighting!!
" stress is the enemy, exams aren't the end of the world, health is wealth " truer words have never been spoken
i needed to hear that
@@deadcherries1454 💕
that Max kid is one wise fella :D
This was fun to watch. Although, I do agree with one of the comments here that these tests are designed and trained in a way that doesn't really help the student to learn the language but memorize how to do the test by following its patterns through mock exams and possibly past papers. SO for the Fulham boys, please don't be disheartened and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
It is typically oriental.
@_ everyone calls it that.
@_ Bruh
@_ uhhh people call it that
Today I learned koreas curriculum is v similar to Irelands
Max nailed it with health is wealth and exams are not the end of the world. Good for you Max
As a Korean med student who’s never lived outside of Korea before, I’d always finish this exam(45 questions) in like 40~50 minutes and go to sleep. The thing is, these students in the video were all new to the questions and the exam itself, but actually the order&pattern of questions are always the same, each year. Only the passages are new. So the students would take loads of mock tests before actually taking the exam, and train so that they’d know where to look at/read even when they’re facing an unfamiliar passage. It’s more like training for the exam itself and not studying a language 😂 Some of my friends nailed the test and wouldn’t be able to have a small talk with native English speakers
+)This doesn't mean that the exam itself would be easy though, since u still have to be able to comprehend all those sentences and vocabularies. For most students that is hard enough
유학 갔다 온 적 없고 항상 수능영어 40~50분컷 하던 의대생의 입장에서 말해보자면 수능영어 준비는 영어 공부보다는 훈련에 가까운 것 같아요 😂 영국 학생들은 수능 자체가 완전 낯선 상황이지만, 사실은 매년 문제유형도 위치도 같아서 한국 학생들은 지문을 다 읽지 않고도 새로운 지문을 만났을 때 어디부터 읽어야할지를 아니까요. 적어도 계속해서 그걸 위해 연습하고요! 그러다보니 대부분의 수능 과목이 그렇겠지만 영어는 특히 실제 실력보다는 누가누가 시험 준비 잘했나의 경쟁인 듯해요
Really? What a shame, so true indeed what the students in the video said. It's ridiculous!
Whatt so it beats the purpose of actually teaching and making them learn English? Exams are so impractical huhu God bless and good luck to all Korean students out there, fighting!!
That's actually very similar with the exams to apply for uni in my country. Every subject has its own pattern, students can almost remember, for example, what question #15 would be about (it'd be a different question every year, but from exactly the same part of materials). I hate it so baaad it's really stressful but many people would probably pass the exams pure by luck.
In the Philippines, we study the English language so that we can apply it in our daily lives. Not only a means to pass your studies or get good grades. One can learn better if what we're learning in school is more practical and can be applied outside school. That's the point why we study right? I hope the Korean education system will be improved for the sake of the students, it might be frustrating for them.
I’m soo sorry for the students. Who made the exam pattern tho. I mean I don’t understand the objective of them making the exam like that. Even academic papers don’t use language like that. Even government budget plans don’t use this kind of language. Whyyyy
Harvey: "Armand is going to ace this test."
Armand: *laughs while reading the passage*
Armand: wtf..
Armand: Gets 3/10
It's because that questions r not grammatically correct..
If Josh and Ollie met in high school I think they'd be like Armand and Max
yesss! hahahah they give off the same bestie vibes!!!
yesss
yess
Yes not just because of their appearance but also because of their personalities
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I have no trouble finding the right answers, probably bcs my school also use the same type of questions for our english exam. Once you understand the pattern u can get the answer by glance. The different is, korean use non practical words to make the passage looks harder bc sometimes u really dont have to understand the whole paragraph to get the answer. you only need to choose which one stand out more. Which mean, the whole exam doesn’t test their understanding and comprehension of the language itself.
For reall
I used to teach English in Korea and even assisted with test preperation at the middle school level (format is all the same starting in middle school) and I think there is a misconception about English education in Korea. Korean students aren't taught English to speak it, they are taught in regards to what is seen as eductional prestige in their country (what looks good on paper, that can propel and solidify your employment in an elite company). Most Korean students don't care about learning English for communication purposes (many students score high on the English part, yet have no plans of stepping foot outside of the country) they care about "learning English" for presitge, high-end job placement and the status it gives. Students who actually WANT to learn English or know how to speak English, don't learn through school; they learn in their own time through hobbies, media, engagement, immersion, high interest in the language and being very open to speaking with native speakers whenever possible (just like things you would do if you wanted to genuinely learn a new language).
I agree. If you wanna learn how to speak and communicate in English, you should go abroad, not studying for the exam.
For English proficiency, IELTS is actually valid in my opinion. In fact, many people who have lived abroad understand what the problem is. So many educated Koreans are deciding to live abroad for educational purpose.
But the funny thing is, I found people tried to justify this problematic English exam. They are saying like "The exam tries to evaluate students' academic paper reading skills."
"The exam pursues on finding people who has high intelligence."
None of these arguments doesn't make sense.
It's the same thing here in Malaysia. The rigidly official English taught in middle schools are boring and most students who are fluent English speaker don't actually learned it from school. They learned from watching movies, listening to music or any hobby that is usually presented in English. I myself didn't learn English from school, it was boring and taught by mostly unqualified English teachers
@@nagnusyo that's interesting to note. An acquaintance of mine scored just average level of proficiency in the Malaysian English test. But she managed to be a top scorer in the IELTS in Malaysia and won monetary award.
Korean language will sound funny and strange if they are taught to speak it, because codeswitching is very much possible, like what we do here in the Philippines,
here, English is very much necessary for communication purposes, in preschool upto the end of elementary the rules are very strict compared to highschool to college, its necessary to speak in english only, if you speak in filipino or in any other filipino lang, they give you such creative punishments, like paying money everytime you talk in filipino or you're the badge holder 👀
Ikr? Not a native English speaker here but hey I learnt English the same way. Fun fact: I was actually the English topper of my school in 10th grade & I was surprised Imao
i feel like all of their individual humour and charm has finally came out here and it is so nice to watch!!! thank you lads for bringing some laughter and smile to my face, wishing you all the very best as you spend this final year prepping for your A levels!
It’s already their last year and it’s my last year in university
토비가 메일 보내준다고 했을때 진심 빵터짐.. 말이라도 고마워요ㅠㅠ 아르망은 오늘도 참 멋있고 멋있는 말만 하는구나… 진심 최고야… 맥스는 오늘도 귀여움 최고치다,,, 다음주에 수능보는 고3인데 좋은 기받아서 열심히 풀고올게요🥺🥺🥺 영국 고등학생들도 시험에서 좋은 결과있길 바라요🙏🤍
화이팅!!!!!🤍🤍
good luck, fighting!! 💓
굿락 화이팅 ! 💗
Good luck! I wish you do all the best
수능 화이팅 하세욤!!!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Question one - Number 3. It makes more than enough sense. None of it seems massively incorrect, it just uses terminology and speech patterns most people don’t. Give this test to a solicitor and see how they do, I bet they’d smash it.
Or maybe for them.. it doesn't make sense so shut up
I was thinking number 1 because it’s the only one that centers it’s subject on something other than humor itself/qualities of humor, and rather focuses on the example’s story and what reactions it evoked.
Looking back It (number 3) actually does make the most sense as it’s the only sentence that doesn’t focus around bonds between workers or a collective
its not about being incorrect its just way too unnecessary, even native speakers are struggling. that just shows how irrelevant it is and sometimes the sentences barely make sense and most answers are correct in one way or another
@@jcorrea6515 I literally did not understand the question properly so I focused on the English itself (as it's supposed to be an English test). 1 should have read "...at face value..." instead of "on its face"; 2 had the weird last few words "...and do not." added to the end, which doesn't flow properly either. Obviously I didn't understand what 'flow' we were even supposed to be looking at! :D
Once these boys graduate and move on, they'll be the Gen One of this series you guys have started. They are funny, open-minded, and an absolute delight to watch. I hope you find ways to still bring them on the show together or maybe even that trip to Korea you and Josh promised in writing for Max and Armand. What an amazing thing your team has started!
I think they really are planning for this trip to happen for the older students. Since it's their last year, they might do something for summer vacation after graduation which obviously is the best time to go for younger people.
@T that would be amazing!! They’re already so funny in school, can’t imagine what hijinks they get up to in Korea
Max’s optimistic nuggets of wisdom warms the heart. He’s like the goodest boy, and an Ollie Jr. at the same time, cos Ollie is also an optimistic ball of sunshine. We need more of them in the world.❤️
He is very well mannered and wise
I love him
Why does Armand and Max feel like Josh and Ollie if they were in High School..
omg i didnt realize until you pointed it out but this is so true
Omg you’re on to something!!
EXACTLY
2:15 it's making me re-think if i know English or not
Please stop, this is so funny. 😂
Am I the only one who thinks Armand looks like he could be James Potter? He is also a Head Boy lol
they should cast him lol
Whats head boy?
@@sunshinewing5517 he’s like the student leader of the school, the head students usually run student council and speak at events etc
Doesn't Orlando look like Ben Barnes here?
I think he looks like a male version of Margot Robbie.
I love how comfortable these students are with Josh and Ollie. I'm going to miss them when they go off to university. Still hoping they get to film a series where they go to Korea (as promised).
Once they graduate, just means Josh and Ollie can actually take them over to Korea lol
I'm going to miss these year 13 boys bcs they are graduating soon. This group made me laugh so much, I really love the series. I wish all the luck to them and also can't help but hope I see them on more videos ❤️ thanks for great content as always!
can anyone explain why do they have Year 13? what's their education system like
@@twiceswift_ They are 18 years old now, and high school here finishes at 16 and the 17/18 is college which is year 12/13
You graduate in year 11 do your gcse exams then go to sixth if you want to go to university (year 12-13) and take a levels some schools have their own sixth forms like this one
As an educator who teaches teenage boys, I found this incredibly funny and entertaining. These boys' reactions remind me 100% of how my students here in Australia would react! Their honesty and humour are such a delight. As for the sentence structure of the passage that was read out, it was incredibly complex, weaving its way, this way and that (I think I was able to follow it 😅). Oh and that TicTok app story had me in stitches!
This is so wholesome I CANN'TT❤️❤️❤️
@@SoiledBriches ❤️😅🤗
언제가 될지는 모르겠지만 영국문화를 한국인도 경험할 수 있는 컨텐츠가 나왔으면 좋겠네요 . 영국남자 채널을 통해 한국문화가 알려진 만큼 이제는 영국문화를 한국인이 느껴 좋은감정을 느끼고 또 서로가 좋은 피드백을 가질 날을 기대하고 꿈꿔봅니다 .
식빵에 장어젤리 발라먹기,정어리 파이 먹기,민트초코 먹기
오 나도 그생각했는데 역으로 교류할수 있는 컨텐츠도 만들어 주세요
@@Note-pb5zd 우물안 국뽕충
@@Note-pb5zd 트렌드가 국뽕코인은 맞는데 간간히 한국인이 영국가서 찍는 영상 찍었다고 영국남자가 망할거라는건 억측이죠 조회수 안나오면 다시 국뽕코인 타면 되는거고요 구독자수가 몇백만인데 쉽게 망하나요
I like what Max said “Stress is the enemy. Exams aren’t the end of the world” Very well said, Max
한국인:하지만 인생의 전부가 아닌 일부인 시험조차 통과하지 못하면 앞길은 더 험난해진다
"Health is wealth"
Priorities!
@@Kimchibokumbab Yes to some people, but not to all of people I guess. I knew people who live a normal, happy and successful life even without passing the exams.
@@MichaelHarto Totally agree with this!
really it is.. the exam is not not all… 😒 many Koreans also think so. but, exams don’t say that🤣😭
The test isn’t just “hard.” It expects Korean students to correctly analyze formal texts _full_ of logical inconsistencies and improper word usage. Like putting “while” between two harmonious sentence components (“then” would make much more sense). The sentence structure does not follow a consistent rhythmic style, making reading difficult whether you speak native English or not. The text isn’t just verbose, but overloaded with information that isn’t supported by necessary stylistic organization.
Wtf is a harmonious sentence 💀💀💀
@@mehrotraankur05 Obviously, a sentence that is coherent and grammatically correct. lol
It's not even that complex if you look at the question they showed on screen. It's similar to IQ test questions. It's just a little bit tricky, you need to take your time and really focus. The kids were more interested in joking around than taking the test seriously, because 1) the results have zero effect for them and 2) the video needs to be entertaining.
@@pillyhere obviously 🥲🥲✨✨✨
But this is what annoys me about it though. It's not necessarily hard because it's high level, it's just confusing because it's badly written.
I might be the only one who wants to see the question paper. I saw the passage and now I'm curious 😅
Same, I really want to try it out
search up "Check your English ability with 'notorious' Korean college entrance exam" and the korean times article that pops up should be correct, they translate the questions for you and you can check your answers in the parentheses where it says to click 'here'.
@@Pikachewzz thank you 😊
The British high schoolers episodes are my favorite. These children crack me up
Max and Armand looks like Ollie and Josh.They're so cute together.
It's funny how Armand is known to be the top of his class as well as being head boy and even Harvey acknowledged how prepared he'd be... ...then a minute later he was struggling big time. Lol
🤭ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I just attempted the test and i was surprised how difficult it was. My parents are korean and studied the english there before moving to the US. Personally, the test was manageable and i did decently well (missing only a few questions). In retrospect the only reason i did well is because my parents are literature teachers and i have been reading since I was two. This just goes to show that it doesnt mean people in Korea have a better equipped English skill set, it just shows how unbelievably strict and high the standards have been set for Korean students.
No the way of your thinking is incorrect, its not about speaking english like a normal person, its taking the definition to the maximum, like making the question as hard as possible
Where can I get the test?
I'm really curious to try my hand at it
맞습니다 😢
내년에는 반대로 영국의 영어시험을 한국학생들한테 풀게해봅시다
(그냥 재미로 풀어보자는건데 다들 잘 맞추려고하고있는.....)
주관식 많을텐데 힘들지 않을까요 ㅋㅋㅋ
영국의 수능 같은 시험인 GCSE, o levels, A levels의 영어는 다 주관식에다 논술이 있어서 불가능. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
좋은 아이디어네요. '진짜 영어'가 뭔지 알아야 우리도 변화의 방향을 제대로 잡겠죠.
ㄹㅇ 유럽은 문제가 거의다 주관식이랑 논술임 객관식이 많이없대
@@amiupne 그럼 채점하기가 꽤 힘들겠네요
아르망은 그냥 회장님이구나.. 정말 회장님 스타일이야.. 하이틴이 가능한거였어..
Are you a student also
매력있어요
남잔데도 얼굴 감탄하면서 봄..진짜 잘생겼네
ㄹㅇ 인성좋고 잘생기고 똑똑한 모범생 그냥 완전 학생회장
Armand seems like a really decent guy. He is handsome, smart and kind. Life is just sometimes really unfair xD
He’s God’s favourite. 😂
Wdym sometimes life has always been unfair 😭😂
Max is a legend ..
한국 중고등 영어교육은 영어를 가르치는게 아니라 오로지 누가 더 빡세게 공부했는가 라는 변별력을 위해서만 존재합니다.
과목명을 바꿔야 될듯 변별력영어로
그냥 언어 교육의 본질에서 벗어남
정확하다
국어 수학도 마찬가지 아이들에게 지식을 가르치기보단 머리에 누가 더많이 집어넣느냐 누가 기계보다 더 잘푸나 더해서 부모님의 경제적풍요까지 더해져야한다 썩은교육
@@goood100 국어 몇 등급임?
I’m going to be so sad when these guys graduate. I’m really going to miss them and I don’t even know them, I swear so strange😂
i feel that too TT_TT
Time to follow them to Uni LOL
Most already graduated their school just has their own sixth form attached to it
나는 그냥 현지인처럼 유창하게 영어를 잘하고싶지 저렇게 어려운 문제들 풀기 싫음...
You don’t need to these tests are so confusing to learn English. But you can do it!
@@AdelaideStJohn thank you 😊
인정이요 저도 영어를 유창하게 잘하고 싶지 어려운 문제 풀기는 싫어요ㅋㅋ
As a native English speaker, the English on this exam is incorrect. Please do not follow this exam and how it uses English. Someone said it correct earlier, it shows you how to read English, not to properly speak it or understand.
I'm not even that good at English tests here (usa) and its my native language lol
이 친구들 영상 보고있으면 내아들도 저리 즐거운 생각하며서 살았으면 좋겠어요~^..^ 계속 웃게 만드는 친구들이에요~
영국 고등학생들의 자유롭고 위트 넘치는 대화가 더 눈길을 끄네요. 우리나라 고등학생들에게서도 이런 여유있는 모습을 볼 수 있었으면 좋겠습니다.
AS an Indian, so true for my country as well, TT
100년은 더걸릴듯...
@@고우털고우고우 100년?어림도없지 우리나라 정부가 안바뀌는한 여유따위는없을듯
지들이 못하는걸 왜 일반화하는지?
우리도 아무 부담없으면
이들처럼 여유를 갖고 웃고 떠들지요.
초딩 때였나? 영국인들이 수능 푸는 거 보면서 난 정말 평생 겪지 않을 일처럼 느껴졌는데 수능이 7일 남았다니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 같은 학생들이라 그런지 더 공감해 주고 힘내라고 하는 게 더 와닿아요!! 수능 성적 제발 10모대로 나오고 수능 다음날 나오는 대학 합격하길... 🙏🏻
지나가던 고2 학생인데요! 저희학교가 수능장으로 쓰인다고해서 짐 다 빼고 청소하니 기분이 싱숭생숭하더라고요! 고2인 저도 그런데 고3선배님 기분은 어떨지 감히 상상도 안되네요 꼭 수능에서 좋은 성적 받기를 바래요 선배님! 대학 합격 하면 꼭 알려주세요 ㅎㅎ!!
수능 대박 기원 할게요!!❤️❤️
지금 유튜브 보고있을때가 아닌것 같은데? 한국 입시 엄청 빡세가지고 ㄹㅇ. 아니면 수시로 가서 최저만 맞추셔도 되는건가 ㄷㄷ
@@militaryandaviationchannel8907 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 제 상황은 제가 젤 잘 알지 않을까여? 3년 동안 빡센 입시 잘 버텼고 수시로 갈 거라서 최저만 맞추면 돼요~^^ 걱정감사
@@Potato-popo-v5g 응원해 주셔서 감사해요!! 대학 시원하게 합격한 다음에 제 기 다 드릴게요 👍🏻
수능 ㅜㅜ전 이제 좀 있으면 1년 남았네요..수능 응원하겠습니다!!힘내세욥
These boys are so cute! And it's true that health is wealth!!
"Alex, do number 5. One of us will get it right." I cracked right tf up. 😂
I’m not Korean, but this is what I just needed. “Failure isn’t that bad. “ I nearly failed one of my midterm exams and I’m so discouraged. It’s just the first of four days. 😭
Fighting, I know it hard but you can do it. Good luck for your exams.
Good luck.
Studying for final stage medical exams and the stress is real, really needed Max's 'health is wealth' also haha
Lois, we all are cheering for you!! FIGHTING 💕
Good luck on the rest of you exams
Fighting
학생들 착하다. 다른 나라의 문화를 존중하려 애쓰는 모습이 기특하네요.
영국남자 덕분에 한국의 다양한 모습이 좋게 전달되는 것 같아요.
시험 잘보라고 행운을 빌어주는 모습들이 진지하면서도 귀엽네요👍
Hello,
I am American and was wondering if you would want to talk about Korean culture?
인정해요…
@@김도희-c3f I am using the google translate feature to understand what you are saying and it reads “I admit” which to me does not make sense. Is there any other way you could say what you mean to say?
우리나라 수능 문화는 ㅈ같음
@@crun1teliveontwitch645 Just go learn about it yourself lol
This high school series brings back memories of going through my own A Level exam.
I wouldn’t want to go back to those 6 paper exams but high school was definitely one of the best time of my life
it’s not about learning a language, it’s learning the pattern of the exam. i’m not korean and never took this exam, but i can tell for sure that u shldnt be reading the whole passage from top to bottom for every question. u look at the question first and then look at the parts of the passage that is relevant. this is what korean students do and what the exam board wants them to do. it’s basically a logical thinking exam in english. if u know the pattern and know how to answer these question types, then even if u can’t speak english or know the language well, u can do well in the test. this is why many kpop stars can’t speak english in interviews and only those who lived in english speaking countries before can. they aren’t trained to speak english, they are trained to take this exam that isn’t even testing their english
I am from nepal , that exactly how it is taught . I was fortunate enough to be in school that did give us passages thag were diverse but like in the bored exam its more about if you know the patern or not , the thing that you mentioned about reading the questions first is the key and knowing that the first questions answer is always in the first to 4 line is the knowledge thaf you get .
Nepal in the state that you even have a book to tell you the answer and coping the answers a praized more that writing it yourself,English is the only exam i have never studied for till this date , teachers predict the questions and its normally93% accurate. Its basically can you mug ut up at this point , not the thing that you would want for the betterment of your future
@@pierce9019 ayo no education system is that perfect but I'd say South Korea has much better tho we share the same pattern
This is why I think many of these exams and thus the education systems fail to teach students proper skills to navigate the world after graduating. Students have to spend hours learning these pattern which will not be very translatable to life skills. The exam is just not accurate in assessing the student's actual English skill. If the questions are geared towards testing the students' ability to say construct sentences that are precise and easy to understand, writing passages that sounds graceful, comprehend older literature etc, those will be very useful.
We have a similar test here in Texas that you have to take every year, but starting in 2nd grade it starts to count as an actual grade. We’re tested on reading, writing, math, science and history. A lot of times for the reading and writing I would do the same thing to to the part of the passage that the question was sending me to. 🤣
Ohhh that's why! I'm from India and in our country we are made to write 120-150 words answer of a question given which test our grammatical, vocabulary and how we express ourselves
Going to miss these lads, Max, Armand and everyone else. Enjoyed every second of each episodes they're in. All the best on your future endeavors! You guys will do well, failure is not everything and at the end of the day "Health is Wealth" 😁😁
where are they going
@@smalltalk3904 uni
It really is a shame that Korean students spend YEARS learning English that they can’t use in a practical way. They work so hard yet when they want to go in for an interview in English or make English speaking friends, they can’t apply what they spent years learning in school. It’s definitely time to reevaluate the academic system and curriculum in Korea.
맞아요ㆍ정확한 지적입니다
I agree. That's why I always tell my students (in Malaysia) that doing well in ur English exam =/= fluent in the language. You might be good in theory, but if you don't actually practice speaking it, there's literally no use to the theory
Not necessarily. Problem with Korean English is that a lot of Koreans are conservative and shy ppl and lack of confidence when it comes to speaking. As soon as they overcome these issues, they’re extremely well spoken.
I agree too. I was chatting with my friend that is a student in Korea and she not necessarily have the best grammer and vocabulary all those. But when she show me her English homework I was shocked because I had a difficult time understand it
yes it is ridiculous!! their English tests are so much harder than ours here in Sweden yet Sweden is top 2 of the countries with the best english for second language. Like why why are those tests so hard if most of them have a problem speaking English in the first place? It's like they have to study word association instead of the actual language that people use. I feel bad for them :(
I really like Tobi's empathy here and how he wants to write in to protest against the (ridiculousness/ unfairness of the) exam
웃으면서 봤는데 한 편으로 우리나라 아이들을 생각하면 마음이 무겁네요ㅠㅠ 점수에 상처받는 아이들이 단 한명도 없길, 모두가 원하는 성적 이룰 수 있길, 점수가 인생의 전부가 아니니 힘내서 그 시간이 지나면 훌훌털어버리길 부디 바래봅니다🥺 시험성적보다 자신의 장점, 강점을 발견해서 더 큰 세상에 발을 내딛고 많은 경험으로 성장하는 우리나라 청소년들이 됐으면 좋겠네요!! 이번 수능도 전국 모든 고3 수험생들이 준비한 만큼 아니 그것보다 더 좋은 성적 거두시길 진심으로 응원하고 기도할게요!!!🙏🏻
힘내라! 나
힘내라! 너
저 3번문제 쉬운 문제인데 ㅋㅋ도표문제는 쉬운편에 속하는건데..... 정말 영어를 쓸데 없이 배우고 있었네요... 저 시험을 내년에 보다니
Armand가 괜히 학생회장이 되는게 아닌것 같군요. 짧은 시간 내에 문제의 취지가 무엇인지 보고 격려의 말까지 멋있는... ㅎㅎ
약간 젖은머리 금발 학생
@댓글금지채팅금지 앜ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 모든 면에서 멋져서 다들 좋아하는거 같네요☺
천재 물리학도같음...
I hope they can take these students to visit Korea before they graduate or maybe after graduation. It will be so much fun😆
작년에 수능치고 대학 들어와서 다시 보는 영상인데.. 정말 올해도 우리나라 학생들 너무 수고했다는 걸 느낍니다..ㅠㅠ
이 영상도 2년 전이라니.. 지금봐도 너무 잘생겼지만 추억을 돌아보는 것 같은 앳된 느낌이 들기도 하네요..🥲
You guys are very strong. I hope you got a Lot of rest😭🫶🏽🫶🏽❤️
맥스는 영국남자랑 같이 하면서 한국에 대해 관심을 가지고 알아보는것 같아요~ 다큐보고 학원을 기억하다니!
친구들이랑 한국으로 꼭 여행왔으면 ㅜㅜ
그리고 우리 수능생 여러분들 화이팅!!!!!
Ray is cracking me up 🤣🤣
Hi
3:29
"How do I know what doesn't fit the flow- WHAT IS THE FLOW?"
"still on question one?"
"Yes bro"
LMAO THIS IS HILARIOUS 😂😂😂
I'm a non-native speaker of English and maybe "flow" isn't the best expression to pick in the eyes of a native speaker, but I get what they meant and found it quite obvious that the correct answer was number three. Did you read the question?
I laughed so hard at this 😂
😭
@@camelopardalis84 Looking it over again, I agree that question 3 must be the correct answer, but "flow" seems like it would refer to ease of readability. He kept getting caught up in the beginning because none of the sentences had good flow. A better question would replace the word "flow" with "topic".
The channel actually hand picks the most difficult questions from the exam, and giving the median time to answer them 1min/question.
In reality the test comprises of a lot of easy questions that can be answered within seconds. Thus even being wrong at all the complicated ones doesn’t immediately equate failing as it can be compensated by the easier ones.
Trust me, I’m currently attending college in SK and have lots of korean friends!
I don't know if anyone caught it but the first question was almost exactly something you would be asked on the SAT in the U.S. I am sure the rest of the exam is much more difficult than the SAT as many prepare for over a year and still fail. Good luck for anyone taking the CSAT or the SAT/ACT!
No matter what country are you, their reactions are so relatable 🤣
Harvey: "No cheating, alright?"
Tobi: "Wait, hold on. What is this?"
"I put 2 coz I copied Alex"
Ray: "I'm just gonna do it with my eyes closed, whichever one my pen lands on."
Orlando: "I got you bro. Number 4 for number 10. I did number 3. Alex, do number 5. One of us will get it right."
I can imagine Malachi trying the exam 😂
Bro this is what i did with my friends on an actual exam hahah
Its not cheating. Its team work. 😁😁
This is a team exam
Armand is just so charming. I mean all the boys are but he stands out too differently. Hope he'll get the success that he seeks ❤️
He is charming without the looks. Having said that,he is a looker,im a straight dude but im obsessed over how bloody good he looks
frr he’s sooo pretty
@@niranjanrajesh1058 hmm yes
Lol you only think that because of his looks.
@@niranjanrajesh1058 you speaking factS
중학교때부터 영어시간에 쌤들이 영국남자를 정말 많이 보여주셨는데…아마 저랑 같은 고3 중에 영국남자를 모르는 학생은 없을 거예요 영국에 또다른 친구들이 수능 문제를 푸는 것도 신기하고 영상으로 별 얘기 안 해도 영국과 우리나라의 문화가 다른 것이 느껴져서 되게 신선하네요 진짜 이 지옥같은 수험생활 고3도 힘들지만 N수생들도 정말 힘들 것 같아요ㅎㅎ뭔가 영국남자를 오랫동안 봐온 것에 대한 응원의 선물처럼 느껴져서 좋아요 감사합니다ㅎ
한국의 교육은 철저히 잘못되었음
세상엔 길이 많다는걸 아이들에게 알려줘야 하는데
공부를 못하면 그 길도 못가게 만들어놓은 사회 시스템
고등학교까지는 기본적인것을 배우고 사회성,도덕성 이런 인간으로서 지키며 살아가야할 최소한의 것들을 배우면서 친구들과 어울리고 놀고 같이 여행도 다니고 그러면서
세상을 배우고 내가 하고 싶은게 뭔지 깨닫고 그 길에 대학이라는 고등지식을 요구 한다면 대학교를 가는것이고
한국 사회는 공부 - 공부 - 공부 - 대학 - 대학원or 취업
자영업을 한다던지? 기술을 배운다던지?농사일을 한다던지 이런 목표를 가지고 있는 학생들은 없음
왜냐하면 교육 자체가 전부 공부 - 대학으로만 초점이 맞춰져 있거든 그니깐 어린애들도 길이 이것밖에 없다고 느낌
This test does make sense in English, it’s just very weirdly worded and it took a lot of time to get through only because the language used was weird.
In a sense, the first question would have been much easier if the passage said “Shared humor is a good way for people to bond together because 1. Humor helps make people share their experiences 2. Makes people feel included in a group 3. Humor is good to use in commercials 4. Shared humor is almost a requirement in a group setting.
This wording makes it super obvious which one doesn’t fit. But the thing is that when formal language is used, people who aren’t used to it have a harder time understanding what exactly is being said. Since it’s said in a way that no one ever talks in that language. It even took me a second to understand the first part of the passage honestly and the difference in test formatting did not help.
In conclusion, shout out to Koreans for surviving this testing experience. You all are getting scammed 😅 stay healthy, sleep well, and all that good stuff
"I hope I don't meet people that speak like this." Big Mood. 😂
Ikr😂 But that's true,non-native speakers like me learn more English ,I mean the way that sounds natural and not forced by exposure to cinema,music rather than through textbooks.
Fr 😂
영국의 고등학생들 위트있고 너무 발랄해서 좋아요 : ) 이렇게 다양한 감정을 표현하고 그것을 받아주는 친구들의 대화가 너무 재미있네요~ 좋은 컨텐츠 감사합니다!
교복입고 지내는 모든 시간이 행복했으면 좋겠습니다. 저의 지난 학창 시절을 생각해보면 이 영상속 친구들 만큼 밝진 못했던 것 같아요. 제 아들은, 제 딸은 학창 시절이 늘 즐겁고 밝을 수 있도록 돕고 싶습니다. 그런 의미에서 매우 좋은 메시지를 주신 컨텐츠라고 생각합니다. 참여해주신 모든 학생들과 영국남자 제작진에 진심으로 감사드립니다.
Ayman..?님도 훈훈하고 귀엽고 총명해보여요! 무엇보다 다들 웃음이 많은게 넘 행복해보이고 부럽네요❤
제가 수능'들'을 보던 시절에 이 컨텐츠가 얼마나 큰 위로가 됐는지 모르실 거예요. 영어만 일등급이 안 나오고, 그 누구도 제가 왜 '영어'를 못하는지 모르는 상황에서 여러번 절망하고 무너졌었거든요. 흔히 얘기하는 '분석력'을 위해서 진짜 영어를 포기하고 사는 게 참 힘들 때 영국남자의 수능 컨텐츠들을 보면서 버텼습니다. 많은 분들이 동의하실 거예요! 앞으로도 좋은 컨텐츠 계속 만들어주시길 바라요! 계속 응원하겠습니다😊😊
고등학생 초반부터 수능 문제를 푸는 컨텐츠를 보면서 마냥 웃었는데 이게 저의 이야기가 될줄은...ㅋㅋ
고3분들도 수험 생활 그동안 힘들었지만 수능 거의 일주일 남은 시점에서 모두 화이팅 하시길 바라겠습니다!
As a Kenyan, I read that passage and immediately knew the answer. I think the way English has been taught in countries where it isn't the native language is just really intense and formal. 😅 I will say though, it gets less verbose for us as you get into high school and only gets weird again when writing papers in university! 😂
yeah generally for non-native speakers it’s simpler. that’s why when immigrants come to the US they question why the curriculum is so easy compared to their place back home. 😭 i’m going for nigerians because that’s what i’m but they make me feel extra stupid when they come to america and understand things so easily. i’ve even noticed this with indian immigrants they make you feel like you’re failing and it’s literally a secondary language to them. 😭 it’s really crazy.
English is my primary language but I could also understand the questions pretty well. I’m in college though and have a lot of practice reading dense research papers. Maybe when it’s your native language, you’re used to barely having to focus to understand so it’s difficult without practice to focus more? Versus with a second language, you’ve always put more focus into it.
As a Foreigner, after learning 12 years of English I can confirm that these SAT tests are absolute cringe and useless in teaching you anything of use in life. One is better off reading off of comic strips found in an abandoned run down bathroom. No wonder the general skill level of foreigners is so pathetic.
@@ezenwanyi3756 Tbf when speaking of the American curriculum its really easy to British people too 😂 American education is extra easy.
@@78cottoncandy bro I’m a junior in hs and I knew it
말하는 거 너무 웃기고 순수함 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
That passage is filled with unnecessary big words that are not only repeated over and over again to cause confusion but aren't really necessary. The gist of the entire first passage is simply "Life experiences brings people together and when a funny moment is experienced by a group of people, their bonds are much stronger." I guess I can only say that now after my brain has developed a more at 29 but there really isn't any need to have these big words in a passage like that...
not from korea, but the passages just feel badly written in my opinion.
shoving random words and making simple concepts obtuse in a passage doesn't make it more intelligent, it just confuses the reader and makes the passage fail at it's purpose (to inform/to describe).
one example of this is "One team told repeated stones about a dumpster fire, something that does not seem funny on its face, but the reactions of workers motivated to preserve safety sparked laughter as the stories were shared multiple times by multiple parties in the workplace."
First sentence, seems fine.
Second sentence, also fine.
Third sentence:
- goes on for too long, making it wordy
- has extra information that aren't clearly marked (workers are motivated to preserve safety), making that part even harder to follow
- looks like it's just trying to increase the word count ("were shared multiple times by multiple parties in the workplace", or ya know, just say "were shared across the whole workplace")
I used to study for the SAT for an entire year in high school. I agree that most of the vocab and reading were not very practical in daily use. I guess they were just trying to test our reading comprehension and critical thinking skills rather than the language itself. There were tips and tricks to go through the reading quickly, and after like hundreds of problems you'd become quite efficient in solving them xD A lot of the passages were taken from the classics as well, so the language always felt archaic and overcomplicated.
@@tuvu8394 I definitely agree with the critical thinking skills aspect of the passage. If that was what was being tested then I can see how this applies.
I have a coworker that grew up in China. He would use a thesaurus to find big complex words to try to sound smarter in an email. It definitely is really weird concept.
I also never understood teachers who would require a 30 page essay in college when you can easily make a better easy work 20 in America. Quantity over quality never made sense to me.
More like "Taking a passage in korean and using Google Translate to reduce the amount of effort one has to put into the question paper."
"I hope I don't meet people that speak like this"
"Eat your sticky sweet and hope"
Jayden's words are always very funny 🤣🤣
You should have them do maths too. Asian maths will hit them on another level. It will be so fun to watch
Trueeeeeeeee
Seriously I hope they do maths next time it’ll be fun watching them suffering 😂😂😂😂😂
예전에 보고 또 보는데 학생들 왜 이렇게 웃기고 귀여워요 ㅎㅎ
Hopefully we'll see these boys again, especially Armand, he's been requesting a trip to Korea xD Hopefully, one day Josh, Ollie and the crew can make that happen and teach Armand all the Korean drinking etiquettes. Bring Max too!
What's Armand's @
That goes to show that it's an unnecessarily difficult test. Imagine failing a test this badly when it's about your native language that you're fluent in. At that point it's the test that's bad not the test takers.
No cuz that's such a good point
Fr, this is frustrating. We think so poorly of white people compared to asians that even when the test is this bad, we just assume the koreans can speak English better than the native speakers.
So ignorant
Korean SAT is purposed at students' effort, not talent. So someone feels it too hard.
As an American, I can assure you that 99% of Americans (and probably anyone growing up in an English speaking country) would score less than 20% on the reading comprehension and writing portion of the SATs (*which is an exam created in America*). That just goes to show that America's level of education is sad, and that you probably need to stop being so ignorant and try to blame others for your ineptitude (although being ignorant and blaming everyone else is very American LOL)😢.
It's not ‘difficult’, it's just wrong. English is what English speakers speak; if English speakers don't understand your English test, you aren't testing English.
Coming from asia and now living in England, there’s a significant difference in work-life balance. In the Philippines, Highschool was 7am-5:30pm then the clubs or sports. College/University was 7am-7pm. Then I went to the UK and I think mental health is much emphasized here. They know you are supposed to have a life outside school or work. It may be different now tho
7am-5pm at school and then homework or studying when you get home😵
As a Filipino and is currently in college here in the ph. I agree with you, school is ridicously hard here.
@@soleil8596 traffic is bad as well. I had to get up at 5-5:30am for school and arrive home at 7pm. That is if you don’t have any extracurricular activities such as clubs and sports varsities.
Interesting. My high school (g7-10, pre-K-12) was 7:30-3:30 (dismissal changed every year but more or less was in between 3:20 and 3:40) then extracurricular “9th period” would be an additional 50 minutes after 8th period. And that’s it.
@@nmplab we have a schedule like that but only once a week. But then I have to stay a bit because I have to wait for others to finish due to our school service
"HEALTH IS WEALTH"
truest words ever spoken.