@@nigelvardy Hi Nigel. I just became aware of this adventure and am completely amazed that you, Antony and Steve survived. It would be a dream for me to be able to meet or talk with each one of you. How can I achieve that wish? Should I contact Steve at his business? Do you think he would be open to having a chat? I live in the U.S. You all are uniquely incredible.
Describing part of a near-death experience with “I was having real problems to be honest” is incredible. Glad to see you made it through and are still talking about those “real problems”
A lovely comment and thank you for celebrating them. They risked their lives to save us. One of the rescue teams emailed me the other day to say hello..!
How I've only just come across this 13 years after being uploaded is crazy. Incredible story. Incredible mental strength, will and determination. Well done lads!
I absolutely one hundred percent agree. I have never climbed a mountain. I've barely climbed a hill. But, like 5 or 6 years ago I just so happened to come across a video about Mount Everest on UA-cam and I'm an unfortunately insatiable curious person, so I watanched it. Well, that was that long ago and here I am STILL watching any and everything I can find on mountain climbing because I am fascinate with the mental and physical fortitude it takes to tackle such a monumental goal. And what you are capable of doing in life if you're motivated enough. I mean, I can barely get motivated to make dinner some nights. And these amazing human beings can push their bodies and minds to places that a hundred years ago, we would have thought impossible. I love the explorations of the northwest passage and the poles too. I am living vicariously through through all of these insanely amazing tough individuals and it helps me to get motivated and to pull energy from wherever I can because if these ppl can climb to damn near space and survive a place that's literally trying to kill them, I can pick up the broom and throw some spaghetti together. y'all are a fantastic source of motivation. And not only to housewives that sometimes let boredom get the best of them but to the people who have come after you and seen your stories and felt that they had a dream and they should pursue that dream because they would never forgive themselves if they didn't. I hope you're all doing spectacularly and thank you for sharing this harrowing story of bravery determination and perseverance.
I don't think putting yourself in that kind of danger is being right in the head. It's their lives. They aren't mean to small animals. But I would sign papers to have them committed were they my friends/family.
@@howardstrauss5166 that was rude? Haven't you ever heard of adventure? I'm so confused they had all the proper equipment and did it responsibly!! Not like they ran up there in shorts geez u make it sound like they are crazy
@Alstro Else indeed it is. When you don't take chances, you don't get rewards. Like with anything else in life, there are always risks. You can't spend your life scared and hiding or you haven't lived at all.
@@nigelvardyI love how all of those sexy boys on the helicopter rope still find words for the fantastic view! How is Steve Bull today, Nigel? And Antony?
Nigel that is insane that all three of you made it out of there alive especially Steve. Antony is a good leader to listen to when situations are hell. Thanks for sharing the story I'm surprised it popped into my algorithm after 13 years but glad I still managed to watch. Glad all of you are with us.
I remember I was a little girl, I learned to read maybe 2 years before and I watched this on T.V. subbed (I do not live in an English speaking country), I literally cried with silent tears. These men were on my mind ever since and I am 23 now. I wish I could tell them that I am sorry they had to go through this, and I wish I could tell them how grateful I am that they shared their story, giving me strength many, many times. I wish them a happy life.
UA-cam just put this in my recommended despite having never searched for mountain / climbing videos before. Today I learned about just how dangerous the sport(?) can be. I don’t know what else to say other than that you’re extremely strong for getting through that and sticking by your friends no matter what. Hope you’re still doing well in 2024, and I wish you (an early) happy 2025!
And now, UA-cam randomly recommended this video to me! I feel special, like it...was just MY time to see this video. Very interesting, very SCARY, and very happy you made it out. I am proud of you as a human being, from one to another.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!13 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or just cannot learn properly. Don't like this kind of idiocy, if they're happy to die painfully... why not rescue captured children, and do something worthy. This is senseless
I have a 3rd cousin somewhere on that mountian. He was training for Everest and all we know is that his group never checked back in. It was 1987 or so. His name was Steve.
@@keirfarnum6811 @Kay Bowers Their spirits are together, forever doing what they loved. I’m sure they are so happy to know you are keeping them in your minds, most likely making a new connection with each other on the otherside now that you two have come across each other here!
@@TLK22 Yes, double amputee Mark Inglis had to have more amputation after his summit of Mount Everest. Just days ago I watched a video where he showed he had frostbite on his stumps. He also injuired his one amputated leg/stump so had to have more of it amputated. I guess on the bright side he broke his prosthetics and not his (lower) leg. Speaking as a person that survived frostbite without amputation so not worth.
The close up off those dead blackened fingers while he's saying "Maybe I won't be able to climb as extreme as I have been in the past" was brutal. So completely incongruent.
@@Jasmine_887 It's necrosis due to frostbite. All black parts are dead tissue and will eventually fall off. (BUT: I have the impression that these pictures here were staged and that these two were just actors with painted fingers.)
@@singenstattatmen5096 No. I did't watch the entire video. But the left dude has a smear on his cheek that looks kinda weird, like smeared paint. Anyways, this stuff does happen. So even if it didn't happen to these two people, it happened to someone. In this sense, I don't feel betrayed by the video or anything.
Some say hell is warm and burns everything. But these guys found themselves in a hell of ice and snow. I'm pleased to hear you guys got out of no-man's-land!
I just watched a documentary about the amazing climber/alpinist Alex Lowe, which was fantastic! And now here I am learning about your amazing adventures and survival, Mr. Vardy. How inspiring! I'm so thankful to hear that you're still getting out there and to the mountains. Bravo, sir!
@@deads4 oh yes if theres true necrosis the only cure is amputation - removal of the dead and poisonous tissue- otherwise is death by sepsis or "blood poisoning "
I cannot imagine the pain they must be in with those injuries.I got very minor frost bite on my fingers from getting things out of the industrial freezer at work and I was only in there for 10 minutes.My fingers turned dark and I lost a little skin a few days later,it to date was the worst pain I've ever experienced.The sheer amount of pain killers they must be on to not be screaming must be enough to put down a horse.
@@nigelvardy Nowadays they don’t want to give pain meds for anything; they’re too worried about addiction, even though only 0.6% are susceptible. It’s madness.
@@keirfarnum6811 tell me about it my whole body is full of arthritis and osteoporosis and my hip joint pops in an out with an awful impingement!! And so many other things an my Dr has me on vicodin dude vicodin lol like it will kill them to give someone something that helps alot more like percocet! Knowing I'll have to take them for long term shouldn't even be an issue but thanks to the government were all screwed
@@Jesussavedme that's awful. It really sucks when the people that genuinely need the pain meds are refused because the doctors are told not to prescribe. This is why so many people turn to the streets and end up on heroin or now fentanyl, carfentanyl, norfentanyl. I hate seeing anybody in pain.
It's amazing how it's naturally programmed in ours body and mind to not give up , I'm a great swimmer but I can't really float I almost drowned both my arms where hurting as hell and then my body and mind say no today you will survive
Wow I couldn’t imagine. This makes me feel like a crybaby whenever I’m in pain or struggling. I’m in chronic pain everyday but I don’t think I could survive this. Kudos to you man. The willpower to climb is insane especially after something like this. I’m glad this blessed my feed and I’m happy you’re alive and well!! Champion.❤️🏆
@@oliviamartini9700 why is someone an idiot for climbing mountains? Certainly you're the idiot. Bet you don't go much further than your mirror. At least they have an amazing story to tell. You only can tell stories about what hairstyle you made the other day. 😂
@@jeanettecook1088 steve said he laid on the ground for 28 hours before his rescue. if you can lay there that long in the cold and not die, i’d say you’re a walking miracle.
i watching and Y'all tell your story i was so scared and. Hurting. For all you guys just knowing Y'all in so mutch pain ,alone and so. Cold. Did anyone. Call for help from GOD?? I no it was GOD who sent Y'all help no one else was there to hear y"all. All three 3 of you men are BLESS .to be alive ( this is a great testimony. For us all .) thank you all.
You are an inspiration, hero, legend and wonderful man Mr Vardy. It is a pleasure to read your replies and to read and hear about your incredible journey. If everyone in the world just had ONE friend like any of you three fine blokes...I think the world would be a much much better place. I hope you are doing well and I wish you all the best. From a very awe inspired person in Ireland.
@@nigelvardy hi Nigel! UA-cam suggested this video to me strangely and I’m not a mountaineer I use an electric wheelchair a bit hard to get up mountains or through gravel tbh. Joking aside it’s great how you’ve adapted after this horror so respect! , I saw Steve’s injuries and I wondered how he’s doing now I hope he’s having a great life in the lakes kind regards joanna from York uk
I love that, in spite of all the hardship, they're all so passionate about mountain climbing that they're able to appreciate the beauty of the mountains even while they're suffering severe frostbite. It's an admirable amount of love for what you do!
thank you algorithm! sometimes life puts you into certain situations where u have to dig deep & just power through the situation. Quitting isn’t an option. what a bunch of legends. I just wanted to send some love ur way from Ontario Canada❤🇨🇦
Gotta give it up for The Park Services Search and Rescue. They put their life's on the line everytime they go out. I've read that incredible stories of bravery rescuing lost, injured and trapped climbers from all over the world.
@@buddybbuddyb3687 sure doesn't seem right does it? Risking their own lives and possibly hurting their own family just because 4 guys need an adrenaline rush and a good story to tell. I think it's selfish.
Watching this 13 years later, and it’s an impressive testament to human willpower. Glad you all made it back to tell your moving stories! I think pushing ourselves to do extraordinary things like this is inspiring no matter what, and all about learning about what challenges we can go through.
@@aarondoodles3380 Well, @Nigel Vardy (from the video) actually commented recently, on some of the threads. He said that doctors don't intervene immediately to remove the damaged tissue because, in some cases, the body can actually heal and recover part of it. But once gangrene sets in, they have to operate and remove the necrotic parts. So, they probably didn't fall off, but were amputated some time after... 😬 He said they weren't painful though, didn't feel anything..
I also got this dropped into my suggested by the algorithm and I'm not sure why, but what a story! I remember hearing about these gentlemen when they were lost (and found) '99 and it was an incredible story! I'm a chronic pain patient and a nurse so I understand the hows and the whys of these injuries, yet I cannot imagine the agony of having my extremeties slowly freeze until they become necrotic. Getting warmed up again must also have been a whole new level of excruciating, only to hear that they are ready and willing to return to the sport, though frostbite won't be as big a concern without fingers, toes and noses. How Antony survived without similar injuries is a bloody miracle. When Steve started talking about tumbling down the mountain on two broken legs, that was when my tummy finally gave up and went all queer. Steve obviously has the most severe case of frostbite. I reckon that both Steve and Nigel must have some excellent prosthetics for their hands (and probably for their noses; I'm pretty sure that cosmetic surgery to recreate nose is still in its infancy), they said that they are going to climb again and I wonder if they ever did.
@@koriw1701 I don’t use prosthetics, and have a few adapted things, but not many. My nose was rebuilt from a pedical flap and has stood -30 since. The pain or warming up was indescribable, and I was speaking with one of the nurses who treated me only a few months ago. I’ve just made a documentary about my accident and return to Alaska this month to open it…
@ @ what an amazing human you are. To have such a consuming passion that doesn't let anything get in the way. I would love to see the new documentary. Do you have a link to it? It's been such a long time since the original video that I'm totally invested in your story. It's great to hear that you received a flap. Those are one of the only ways to surgically rebuild the nose and I'm delighted to hear that you got one. Please give me some information on your documentary. I await its release with great anticipation.
I just love how all of you talk about the last view of the mountains and sunset with so much live and are determined to go back to climbing, truly inspiring and just heart-warming
@@rvaugh230 Noodling kills the nest. Flatheads only get in a hole during the spawn to gaurd the eggs and fry until they are big enough to fend for themselves. Thats why most states have banned the practice.
I don't know why this came through the algorithm this afternoon for me to watch, but I did and am just amazed at such a will to live. I'm glad you all survived to keep answering all these years later! You're all amazing men, and to think I complain when it snows an inch? How dare I when it's nothing like what you all went through. I hope you all were able to climb again! 💙
@@Crettybocker427Don’t forget he chose to save his Friends in that state. Forever, human beings will have urges to tackle what they see is a challenge.
Hey Nigel, I couldn't imagine the pain and fear you three must have felt those days and still to this day. I just want to say that I hope you're living a happy and safe life now. Your selflessness and strength has impacted me enough to write this and that's a rare thing. Well wishes and good health
My dad was a climber and adventurous when he was young, he is 67 now. He climbed the Everest, Mont blanc etc. I am glad nothing (very bad) happened to him. You guys are real survives. I can't imagine to survive what you went through.
I'm glad you and your mates made it, Nigel. I salute the team effort you all displayed, keeping each other alive and attempting to reach help. I also recognize the perseverance it takes continuing to stay positive in life after the frostbite damage. It inspires me to try to remain positive in my own life.
I love that you guys are still climbing. You are a testament to the human spirit, and to your own courageous pursuit of seeing the rare beauties of the world.
I can't believe you made it out alive. Take care guys! I love to watch mountain videos from under a blanket in my sofa. 😺 (I can not stand cold weather even though I'm born in northern Sweden.)
@@nigelvardy Great! It makes me happy to know that you are able to still enjoy outdoor living. I have to confess I actually live in the middle of Sweden, in Ångermanland or Västernorrland. To everyone though it counts as part of nortern Sweden. Or summers are basically between June-August, a short autumn and spring, rest is a winter period of ca five month. Still it's nothing compared to living in real nortern Sweden where you have been. 😺 I've been as north as Gällivare myself visiting a friend during springtime. I love the light up north, during the non-winter period. Consider the cold I think I lack every "cold genes" one can have. I have been freezing all my life. 😺
Literally having just returned from Norway with work, I cannot begin to imagine the absolute granite resolve of the three of you in horrendous conditions. Makes ice breaking drills look like a Sunday afternoon in front of the fire. Absolute best of British!
And me Mechelle! How do you catch a polar bear? You need some peas and a shovel, you dig a hole in the ice sprinkle the peas around and when the polar bear comes down for a pea you kick him in the icehole! LOL xxx
@Dan Didnot I remember speaking with Sir Ran and comparing frostbite treatment and injuries when I was recovering Dan. I chose surgery, he chose a hacksaw..! We've worked together since and alway joke about our injuries...
Do you have prosthetics? If so what tasks can you do / miss being able to do? I read other comments and see that you still climb so I am curious about the strenth of prosthetics and diversity of tasks that they can help with. I appreciate the dedication to your passion, many envy the spirit you have!
i've been falling down a mountaineering disaster rabbit hole for the past couple of days, and this video popped up in the recommended. it's amazing to see someone go through something so intense but still maintain an air of positivity and a good sense of humor about it - you guys are like the british version of beck weathers! hope you guys are doing well these days - best wishes from the united states :)
You guys are true heros. You are the ones brave enough to expand the human mindset and horizons. You make the world a better place for showing the brave human spirit and the light of survival against all odds. Thank you so much.
Haha “oh suddenly, that’s a nice view”. Humor gets us through even the darkest of times. Man Steve is an incredible person, risked everything trying to save his mates. I saw this story as a kid and it makes me so happy they’re all alright. Wonder if they ever still climb together?
Speechless. Wish I had that kind of strength and courage. I have to ask, how bad did that frostbite hurt? I've read that affected areas are more susceptible to cold forevermore - have you experienced long-term effects?
@@thefeatherbrain freezing doesn’t hurt, but thawing out is awful. My hands are particularly prone to the cold, so I’m heading back to Alaska this January..!
I've been obsessed with Everest and extreme mountain climbing since I was little. Why is this just now popping up in my feed? Never heard this incredible story! @nigel I'm glad you and the other boys are doing well and still climbing! I thank God you all made it home! And thank God for that pilot!
So everyone is just getting this in their recommended now?
its a straight go!😂
Yeah
Yeah, but I don't know why
Yep
mhm
why is the algorithm showing me frostbite videos in 2024 for no reason, this is like the 3rd video.
me too!
Same here. I watched Love is blind videos , craft dupe video , pottery and lots of modtricca if there’s any connection to be found here. Lol
Same
heard
Same
Two broken legs and tried to crawl half a mile back up a hill to save his mates.
Legend. That’s your wingman right there.
He took the bravest decisions I’ve ever seen in my life...
@@nigelvardy well, you all did incredibly well, but you don’t need me to tell you that. 👍 incredible story.
@@nigelvardy absolutely amazing story!
Who are you talking about ? (I did not see that in the video)...
@@christinealessandrini4280 the guy who fell down hundreds of meters, he literally describes his legs breaking on rocks. He was last to be airlifted 👍
Nice job UA-cam, it only took 13 years to recommend this video. New content creators have no chance
Lol
Yeah idk why I'm getting this and the other guy who lost his hand to frostbite lol
No just interesting things
Well... shitty title, no labels, no description, no nothing... no wonder why this video was hidden in a hole.
This is crazy! How people can put themselves and the once who rescued them in such a dangerous situation
this guy nearly died and hes still replying to comments on a video nearly exactly 10 years ago, legend
And I’m still climbing too..!
@@nigelvardy Hi Nigel. I just became aware of this adventure and am completely amazed that you, Antony and Steve survived. It would be a dream for me to be able to meet or talk with each one of you. How can I achieve that wish? Should I contact Steve at his business? Do you think he would be open to having a chat? I live in the U.S. You all are uniquely incredible.
@@vanityfair5823 feel free to..!
@@nigelvardy Just for that i gave you a follow!
@@nigelvardy wow 😯
The algorithm is on something rn
Tell me about it. 🥳
Algorithm. Catchphrase of the fucking week.
Deadass
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FORREALLLL
Describing part of a near-death experience with “I was having real problems to be honest” is incredible. Glad to see you made it through and are still talking about those “real problems”
@@bee_bch and still in the mountains…
Can we hear it for the helicopter crews who risked their own lives at 20K feet to rescue these three?
Here, here!
That is truly the point to this story!!!
A lovely comment and thank you for celebrating them. They risked their lives to save us. One of the rescue teams emailed me the other day to say hello..!
@@nigelvardy The real hero is you, Nigel, still replying to comments after 11 years.
@@davidcooke8005 hi there I'm glad your all ok this must have been horrific I can't imagine how you felt praise God for getting you out
somehow this video pop up in my feeds after 13 years
@@JUtah10 the wonders of algorithms..!
Same
Stay safe.
( Same here..... I even live on a different continent,far away. ... : )
@@bettykay8997 thank you..!
same!!!
So, my ears and nose had fallen off, I had two broken legs and both my hands were frozen solid, but the view was to die for!
Different breed!
Steve’s quite the man..!
@@nigelvardy Master of the understatement! 😳
Perspective.
@@river8760 100%. You can see beauty everywhere if you change your perspective.
@@Softlolthat's the spirit.
How I've only just come across this 13 years after being uploaded is crazy. Incredible story. Incredible mental strength, will and determination. Well done lads!
@@ZikDot thank you..!
I absolutely one hundred percent agree. I have never climbed a mountain. I've barely climbed a hill. But, like 5 or 6 years ago I just so happened to come across a video about Mount Everest on UA-cam and I'm an unfortunately insatiable curious person, so I watanched it. Well, that was that long ago and here I am STILL watching any and everything I can find on mountain climbing because I am fascinate with the mental and physical fortitude it takes to tackle such a monumental goal. And what you are capable of doing in life if you're motivated enough. I mean, I can barely get motivated to make dinner some nights. And these amazing human beings can push their bodies and minds to places that a hundred years ago, we would have thought impossible. I love the explorations of the northwest passage and the poles too. I am living vicariously through through all of these insanely amazing tough individuals and it helps me to get motivated and to pull energy from wherever I can because if these ppl can climb to damn near space and survive a place that's literally trying to kill them, I can pick up the broom and throw some spaghetti together. y'all are a fantastic source of motivation. And not only to housewives that sometimes let boredom get the best of them but to the people who have come after you and seen your stories and felt that they had a dream and they should pursue that dream because they would never forgive themselves if they didn't. I hope you're all doing spectacularly and thank you for sharing this harrowing story of bravery determination and perseverance.
I can’t imagine they would ever want to feel cold again I hope they’re doing okay mentally
We’re all doing well thank you...
@@nigelvardy how are your noses now? Did you lose them? Fingers?
@@hellosweetheart3350 i am wondering the same did they save the noses and fingers??
I don't think putting yourself in that kind of danger is being right in the head. It's their lives. They aren't mean to small animals. But I would sign papers to have them committed were they my friends/family.
@@howardstrauss5166 that was rude? Haven't you ever heard of adventure? I'm so confused they had all the proper equipment and did it responsibly!! Not like they ran up there in shorts geez u make it sound like they are crazy
I will never understand the appeal of placing oneself in these extreme, life-threatening situations.
@Alstro Else indeed it is. When you don't take chances, you don't get rewards. Like with anything else in life, there are always risks. You can't spend your life scared and hiding or you haven't lived at all.
Comfort is poison
Honestly I classify it as socially acceptable suicidal tendencies.
To feel something. To really feel it
agree, i wouldn't see them as "heroes" at all, it's not heroic at all knowing you have family that will be crushed if you die
The fact that this guy is still answering comments is really cool :D
Thank you…
@@nigelvardy
@@nigelvardyI love how all of those sexy boys on the helicopter rope still find words for the fantastic view! How is Steve Bull today, Nigel? And Antony?
@@Ingrafre last I heard, they were really well…
@@nigelvardy Found Antony on Linkedin 😊 But nothing from Steve. Would like to know how he solved the frostbite nose.
Nigel that is insane that all three of you made it out of there alive especially Steve. Antony is a good leader to listen to when situations are hell. Thanks for sharing the story I'm surprised it popped into my algorithm after 13 years but glad I still managed to watch. Glad all of you are with us.
@@prestonwilliams5244 thank you…
I don’t know why UA-cam recommended this to me, but I’m glad it did. What a testament to the human spirit.
Thank you Leigh...
Dude same
@@nigelvardy how's that nose of yours doing and those fingers?...
@@PaulBrown-uj5le very well thank you Paul. I had surgery to replace my nose but my fingers had to be amputated I’m afraid...
@@nigelvardy dear lord I hope you are well now, you are truly a legend for having survived this ordeal
I remember I was a little girl, I learned to read maybe 2 years before and I watched this on T.V. subbed (I do not live in an English speaking country), I literally cried with silent tears. These men were on my mind ever since and I am 23 now. I wish I could tell them that I am sorry they had to go through this, and I wish I could tell them how grateful I am that they shared their story, giving me strength many, many times. I wish them a happy life.
Thank you Klinika. We’re all still here and doing well thank you...
Hopefully she sees this ❤
@@nigelvardy bet she didn’t expect you to answer. Epic bro 🤙
@ZeRo Klinika wishes she could tell/thank the guys. Well, Nigel is one of them and actually replied to a 9 year old video, a week ago.
@@nigelvardy that’s such fantastic news to hear what amazing people you are. Xxxxx
Their spirits dropped a few levels when Wim Hof jogged passed them in flipflops and a pair of speedos
😂
😂🤣😆👏
Very funny
Lol
Oh ... that's gooood
UA-cam just put this in my recommended despite having never searched for mountain / climbing videos before. Today I learned about just how dangerous the sport(?) can be. I don’t know what else to say other than that you’re extremely strong for getting through that and sticking by your friends no matter what.
Hope you’re still doing well in 2024, and I wish you (an early) happy 2025!
@@atsunome thank you. Heading back to Alaska in 2025..!
@@nigelvardyi wish you well!! i’ll stick to indoor bouldering for now ‼️
@@nigelvardy How exciting! Planning on climbing Denali?
@ no, but opening a documentary about the accident at the Talkeetna ice festival…
And now, UA-cam randomly recommended this video to me! I feel special, like it...was just MY time to see this video. Very interesting, very SCARY, and very happy you made it out. I am proud of you as a human being, from one to another.
@@tetsuoakira8294 thank you. It was a heck of a rescue and life is still an amazing journey…
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!13 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhh 25 for me..!
@@nigelvardy how are ur friends doing? u still have contact with them?
@@keanugoossens2625 we keep in touch and everyone is doing really well…
I read an article from 2011 where the Steve Ball guy has prosthetic hands with built in ice picks for climbing, man that dude is tough.
Wow!
Or just cannot learn properly. Don't like this kind of idiocy, if they're happy to die painfully... why not rescue captured children, and do something worthy. This is senseless
Do you never drive in case you crash?
Why so mean they're not trying to die, just live their life.
@@loveispatientloveiskind2205 Because they pay for it. Young man
@@loveispatientloveiskind2205 save the kids so they can go climbing with them
Of course this comes up on my algorithm when my house is literally freezing. You guys are legends.
@@krvzito thank you, and still loving life..!
@@nigelvardy very good to hear, truly
😂 mine too
SAME 😂
My apartment is warm
I have a 3rd cousin somewhere on that mountian. He was training for Everest and all we know is that his group never checked back in. It was 1987 or so. His name was Steve.
We will see him in resurection.
My friend Todd died up there as well. Really nice guy.
@@keirfarnum6811 Sorry you lost your friend but we know they died doing what they loved!
I’m so sorry to hear that Kay...
@@keirfarnum6811 @Kay Bowers Their spirits are together, forever doing what they loved. I’m sure they are so happy to know you are keeping them in your minds, most likely making a new connection with each other on the otherside now that you two have come across each other here!
Faith and perseverance. You guys are legends! So glad you are here to tell us your story.
@@ncstonecrew thank you. I’ve just attended a service at st faiths near my home…
On the brightside, at least once you lose your nose and fingers to frost bit you can't lose them a second time climbing! Cheers brothers!!
😂
Skill Challenge; Level 9/10 (I think the blind guy w. the legless guy is level 10)
Wrong what remain is more easy to frostbite again.
@@TLK22 Is it, though? Fingers, toes, and nose have a high surface area to volume ratio, meaning they are more difficult to keep warm.
@@TLK22 Yes, double amputee Mark Inglis had to have more amputation after his summit of Mount Everest. Just days ago I watched a video where he showed he had frostbite on his stumps. He also injuired his one amputated leg/stump so had to have more of it amputated. I guess on the bright side he broke his prosthetics and not his (lower) leg. Speaking as a person that survived frostbite without amputation so not worth.
The close up off those dead blackened fingers while he's saying "Maybe I won't be able to climb as extreme as I have been in the past" was brutal. So completely incongruent.
Omg why is it black ????
@@Jasmine_887 frostbite
@@Jasmine_887 It's necrosis due to frostbite. All black parts are dead tissue and will eventually fall off.
(BUT: I have the impression that these pictures here were staged and that these two were just actors with painted fingers.)
@@IceQueenaliasIQ Why tf would you think that? Did you *look* at those fingers?
@@singenstattatmen5096 No. I did't watch the entire video. But the left dude has a smear on his cheek that looks kinda weird, like smeared paint.
Anyways, this stuff does happen. So even if it didn't happen to these two people, it happened to someone. In this sense, I don't feel betrayed by the video or anything.
Some say hell is warm and burns everything. But these guys found themselves in a hell of ice and snow. I'm pleased to hear you guys got out of no-man's-land!
Thank you...
Literally what I always think. Why should hell be hot if extreme cold is just as torturing.
@@Dara-ho9qc I completely agree!
In Dante's Inferno the lowest level of hell is a freezing lake
I've always thought that, if hell is real it would be freezing, not hot
I just watched a documentary about the amazing climber/alpinist Alex Lowe, which was fantastic! And now here I am learning about your amazing adventures and survival, Mr. Vardy. How inspiring! I'm so thankful to hear that you're still getting out there and to the mountains. Bravo, sir!
Also, just subscribed! Thank you!
@@JewelMakeup thank you..!
They must have the pain meds right== my ex's ex had a finger turn black, rotting off and she said he was in screaming agony. And that was ONE finger.
its frost bite though, I dont think he had any feeling there at all
@@deads4 yes difference between frost bite and tissue slowly dying off - however both can be very painful
@@misstinahamilton5714 Yea, if the tissue was necrotic they'd definitely have to amputate as well.
@@deads4 yes-otherwise its sepsis and death if it progresses to that point
@@deads4 oh yes if theres true necrosis the only cure is amputation - removal of the dead and poisonous tissue- otherwise is death by sepsis or "blood poisoning "
I cannot imagine the pain they must be in with those injuries.I got very minor frost bite on my fingers from getting things out of the industrial freezer at work and I was only in there for 10 minutes.My fingers turned dark and I lost a little skin a few days later,it to date was the worst pain I've ever experienced.The sheer amount of pain killers they must be on to not be screaming must be enough to put down a horse.
The cold can be a dangerous place to be Jo. The pain was awful, but medication helped a great deal...
@@nigelvardy
Nowadays they don’t want to give pain meds for anything; they’re too worried about addiction, even though only 0.6% are susceptible. It’s madness.
@@keirfarnum6811 let them feel the pain and see what they think..!!!
@@keirfarnum6811 tell me about it my whole body is full of arthritis and osteoporosis and my hip joint pops in an out with an awful impingement!! And so many other things an my Dr has me on vicodin dude vicodin lol like it will kill them to give someone something that helps alot more like percocet! Knowing I'll have to take them for long term shouldn't even be an issue but thanks to the government were all screwed
@@Jesussavedme that's awful. It really sucks when the people that genuinely need the pain meds are refused because the doctors are told not to prescribe. This is why so many people turn to the streets and end up on heroin or now fentanyl, carfentanyl, norfentanyl. I hate seeing anybody in pain.
Not giving up is a human's greatest survival skill.
I'm not seeing how that ties into what I said ?
It's amazing how it's naturally programmed in ours body and mind to not give up , I'm a great swimmer but I can't really float I almost drowned both my arms where hurting as hell and then my body and mind say no today you will survive
so is not climbing mountains for no reason
But what about putting yourself in a very very bad situation?
Wow I couldn’t imagine. This makes me feel like a crybaby whenever I’m in pain or struggling. I’m in chronic pain everyday but I don’t think I could survive this. Kudos to you man. The willpower to climb is insane especially after something like this. I’m glad this blessed my feed and I’m happy you’re alive and well!! Champion.❤️🏆
@@raisinbran531 it was awful at the time, but we had excellent medical care which has allowed us to back into the hills…
Why the hell is youTube recommend this me after 10 years
Same!
Yup!
Same here
because you have nothing better to do...
@@doctorshawzy6477 jealous much?🤣
“And... suddenly... oh that’s a nice view” 😂
I laughed out loud at this. All three of them said the same thing.
Ffs u no what I mean. Lovely creasing 🌙
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I, too, LOL'ed at that!! Wow, if that isn't the hardcore mountain climber attitude.:)
Thank goodness for Search and rescue. They are amazing people!
They certainly are...
They must get thoroughly sick and tired of risking their lives for idiots.
Yep thank goodness hey
@@oliviamartini9700 why is someone an idiot for climbing mountains? Certainly you're the idiot. Bet you don't go much further than your mirror. At least they have an amazing story to tell. You only can tell stories about what hairstyle you made the other day. 😂
@@wioi I hear what you're saying but I would rather have my nose fingers and feet more than having a good story to tell
Thank you for continuing to take the time to talk with everyday people online about your harrowing experience.
@@alexp.4270 not at all…
9 years later and UA-cam finally recommends this to everyone
and again in 2024
'*cough*
Finally lol. To be fair, it's an interesting story.
This is such a common story with climbers- and the end of the story is usually not good. The fact that these people are still alive is a miracle.
No, not a miracle. The result only of human effort and preparedness. No magic involved.
@@jeanettecook1088 steve said he laid on the ground for 28 hours before his rescue. if you can lay there that long in the cold and not die, i’d say you’re a walking miracle.
Sounds like a frightening experience. I’m glad you guys survived.
Thank you Gerald. We’re all doing very well thank you...
i watching and Y'all tell your story i was so scared and. Hurting. For all you guys just knowing Y'all in so mutch pain ,alone and so. Cold. Did anyone. Call for help from GOD?? I no it was GOD who sent Y'all help no one else was there to hear y"all. All three 3 of you men are BLESS .to be alive ( this is a great testimony. For us all .) thank you all.
@@maryhodgson8604 Thank you Mary. Were all doing very well and God looked after us...
@@nigelvardy thank God 🙏 , how's your nose? Very curious
@@CarlosGonzalez-ki1kq it’s fine thank you although my sense of smell is now poor...
I'm so happy you survived! I'm absolutely amazed at y'all's resilience.
Thank you..!
Frost bite, avalanche, snapping both legs...sounds almost as bad as when I hit the corner of my bed with my toe the other day 😜
Toes..??? What are those..??? 😂😂😂
@@nigelvardy hahaha, you win 😂
Try falling on to a metal bed frame and landing on your hip. Still better than frostbite I'm sure.
try stepping on a lego in the middle of the night....
@@iraniansuperhacker4382 hahaha! Even after hearing these stories I still have the desire to climb
You are an inspiration, hero, legend and wonderful man Mr Vardy. It is a pleasure to read your replies and to read and hear about your incredible journey. If everyone in the world just had ONE friend like any of you three fine blokes...I think the world would be a much much better place. I hope you are doing well and I wish you all the best. From a very awe inspired person in Ireland.
Thank you for your kind comment. We’re all doing very well and living life to the full…
Oh my word. How you had the perseverance and stamina to survive. God bless you all
hi Steven I hope you doing well ,it's tony from derby ,we shared a ward at the burns unit in Nottingham City Hospital 2000
Wow
Hi Anthony, its Nigel here. Steves in the Lakes these days and doing very well...
@@nigelvardy thankyou for your reply ,sadly I never meet you , Steve was a positive and inspirational person
@@anthonymorris8423 he still is Anthony..!
@@nigelvardy hi Nigel! UA-cam suggested this video to me strangely and I’m not a mountaineer I use an electric wheelchair a bit hard to get up mountains or through gravel tbh. Joking aside it’s great how you’ve adapted after this horror so respect! , I saw Steve’s injuries and I wondered how he’s doing now I hope he’s having a great life in the lakes kind regards joanna from York uk
Incredible story … I can’t imagine living through this, wishing them positivity today xx
@@rotbot4u thank you. We’re all injured, but living life to the full…
I love that, in spite of all the hardship, they're all so passionate about mountain climbing that they're able to appreciate the beauty of the mountains even while they're suffering severe frostbite. It's an admirable amount of love for what you do!
And we still love them...
thank you algorithm!
sometimes life puts you into certain situations where u have to dig deep & just power through the situation. Quitting isn’t an option.
what a bunch of legends.
I just wanted to send some love ur way from Ontario Canada❤🇨🇦
@@Trish150655 hello from Derbyshire, England..!
Gotta give it up for The Park Services Search and Rescue.
They put their life's on the line everytime they go out.
I've read that incredible stories of bravery rescuing lost, injured and trapped climbers from all over the world.
They certainly do and I thank them with all my heart and soul...
Glad you made it back home.
2021 has been another tough year for the climbing community, great accomplishment and terrible tragedy.
These people chose to climb, let them freeze.
@@buddybbuddyb3687 most Search and Rescue crews are fellow climbers and often volunteers.
Can't see them letting a fellow climber freeze to death.
@@buddybbuddyb3687 sure doesn't seem right does it? Risking their own lives and possibly hurting their own family just because 4 guys need an adrenaline rush and a good story to tell. I think it's selfish.
Watching this 13 years later, and it’s an impressive testament to human willpower. Glad you all made it back to tell your moving stories! I think pushing ourselves to do extraordinary things like this is inspiring no matter what, and all about learning about what challenges we can go through.
It’s amazing how calm they are talking about such traumatic circumstances. Almost makes it seem hard to believe.
@@7somekindofsomething a lesson I learned very young - panic gets you nowhere…
I think you don't get to such adventures if you're the panicky type...
I thought the black stuff on their noses and hands were something to help with their frost bite, not that it’s frost bite and about to fall off.
It's pretty brutal when you think about it. 👀
So, there noses and fingers fell off after this broadcast? 😳
Aaron Doodles - That’s what I’m guessing.
@@aarondoodles3380 Well, @Nigel Vardy (from the video) actually commented recently, on some of the threads.
He said that doctors don't intervene immediately to remove the damaged tissue because, in some cases, the body can actually heal and recover part of it.
But once gangrene sets in, they have to operate and remove the necrotic parts. So, they probably didn't fall off, but were amputated some time after... 😬
He said they weren't painful though, didn't feel anything..
@@dyawr Crikey, how awful. They were colder than my coors light 🥶 and probably the burgers in the freezer 🥶 😳
No way you are still replying to comments after 13 years, you truly are a legend
@@xmarlanu and still mountaineering..!
@nigelvardy when you get frostbite that badly, how long was the recovery?
@@nigelvardyOh Nigel and friends, what tough magnificent bastards yall are! ❤️
@@bskee001 😂😂😂
@@nigelvardywow. Is there nothing else?
I also got this dropped into my suggested by the algorithm and I'm not sure why, but what a story! I remember hearing about these gentlemen when they were lost (and found) '99 and it was an incredible story!
I'm a chronic pain patient and a nurse so I understand the hows and the whys of these injuries, yet I cannot imagine the agony of having my extremeties slowly freeze until they become necrotic. Getting warmed up again must also have been a whole new level of excruciating, only to hear that they are ready and willing to return to the sport, though frostbite won't be as big a concern without fingers, toes and noses. How Antony survived without similar injuries is a bloody miracle.
When Steve started talking about tumbling down the mountain on two broken legs, that was when my tummy finally gave up and went all queer. Steve obviously has the most severe case of frostbite. I reckon that both Steve and Nigel must have some excellent prosthetics for their hands (and probably for their noses; I'm pretty sure that cosmetic surgery to recreate nose is still in its infancy), they said that they are going to climb again and I wonder if they ever did.
@@koriw1701 I don’t use prosthetics, and have a few adapted things, but not many. My nose was rebuilt from a pedical flap and has stood -30 since. The pain or warming up was indescribable, and I was speaking with one of the nurses who treated me only a few months ago. I’ve just made a documentary about my accident and return to Alaska this month to open it…
@ @ what an amazing human you are. To have such a consuming passion that doesn't let anything get in the way. I would love to see the new documentary. Do you have a link to it? It's been such a long time since the original video that I'm totally invested in your story.
It's great to hear that you received a flap. Those are one of the only ways to surgically rebuild the nose and I'm delighted to hear that you got one. Please give me some information on your documentary. I await its release with great anticipation.
@ thank you. I’m hoping to launch the documentary soon, although I’m not sure on which platform…
13 years ago and this finally popped up on my feed. Amazing story tho. Absolutely amazing.
This is horrifying. So glad you made it and that you're ok.
Thank you..!
That's some damn fine hair Steve. I'm glad to see that you escaped with it unscathed.
I just love how all of you talk about the last view of the mountains and sunset with so much live and are determined to go back to climbing, truly inspiring and just heart-warming
@@juneblack8503 thank you. I was back in Alaska earlier this year, making a documentary about the climb and how it changed my life…
These men are definition of STRONG! GOD bless you brother!
Amazing survival story. Glad you all made it back and to see that it hasn't stopped you living your life.
I’d rather go fishing!
Fear not, I still fly fish with stumpy fingers..!
@@nigelvardy you should try catfish noodling. Bet you'd catch plenty.
@@nigelvardy your a champion
@@rvaugh230 is that like trout tickling..? 😂
@@rvaugh230 Noodling kills the nest. Flatheads only get in a hole during the spawn to gaurd the eggs and fry until they are big enough to fend for themselves. Thats why most states have banned the practice.
So glad y’all made it you truly are an inspiration wishing you all the best 😊
@@Nightchildxxi thank you. Happy new year..!
@@nigelvardyhappy new year to you as well sir! Much respect and love 😊
I don't know why this came through the algorithm this afternoon for me to watch, but I did and am just amazed at such a will to live. I'm glad you all survived to keep answering all these years later! You're all amazing men, and to think I complain when it snows an inch? How dare I when it's nothing like what you all went through. I hope you all were able to climb again! 💙
This guys a beast crawls half mile broken and frostbite.. 🥶 that’s a real hero ❤
@@Karl-lz2bj he really is..! Steve is also the loveliest bloke you’ll ever meet…
hes a hero because they messed up and crippled themselves over climbing ??? for sheer stupidity crippled for 0 reason sure .
@@nigelvardy All of you guys seem incredibly lovely. I hope you guys are still in touch, friendships like that are rare to come by
@@centrifugedestroyer2579 on and off, but still great friends…
@@Crettybocker427Don’t forget he chose to save his Friends in that state. Forever, human beings will have urges to tackle what they see is a challenge.
Well safe to say this Nigel dude is unarguably a legend, still replying to comments, still climbing, keep living your best life man.
@@CarputingYT thank you. I’ll try my best..!
after all these years he’s still out here replying to ppl . what a legend!
@@Trish150655 thank you..!
Wow! Fantastic listening to these very fortunate men.
Mad respect my man, glad to know your still livin to the fullest!
@@Pepandas thank you..!
Hey Nigel, I couldn't imagine the pain and fear you three must have felt those days and still to this day. I just want to say that I hope you're living a happy and safe life now. Your selflessness and strength has impacted me enough to write this and that's a rare thing. Well wishes and good health
Thank you Kyle. We’re all doing very well thank you. I hope you are too...
This is fascinating and terrifying at the same time. So happy you lived to tell the tale ❤
@@PontiacGal1996 thank you. It was a bit of both for us also..!
My son and I are getting ready to go summit this beast. This summer. Glad they got to you guys when they did. Thank you for sharing.
Wishing you both a safe and successful trip Ken...
Ty sir. Can't wait
Up the butt. It all depends on the weather.
Wtf is wrong with you. You watch this video and think “oh this is cool, I should bring my son with” sick dude
Cheers to yall sir!!! Doing what yall love no matter the cost is a big inspiration to me!
@@joshuaclemons6835 thank you. Heading back to Alaska soon…
@ Merry Christmas
@ merry Christmas..🎄
Wow, Nigel this is an incredible story, I am glad you are doing very well now. What an achievement to survive against such difficult conditions
Thank you...
My dad was a climber and adventurous when he was young, he is 67 now. He climbed the Everest, Mont blanc etc. I am glad nothing (very bad) happened to him. You guys are real survives. I can't imagine to survive what you went through.
It was a very difficult time Anna, and I’m glad your dad enjoyed his mountaineering....
I committed suicide went to Hell! Jesus brought me back! Beat that bro! 😎
I'm glad you and your mates made it, Nigel. I salute the team effort you all displayed, keeping each other alive and attempting to reach help. I also recognize the perseverance it takes continuing to stay positive in life after the frostbite damage. It inspires me to try to remain positive in my own life.
Thank you. Life has its ups and downs, but it’s a learning experience and an adventure in forgiveness…
I love that you guys are still climbing. You are a testament to the human spirit, and to your own courageous pursuit of seeing the rare beauties of the world.
@@syrinx114 thank you. I was on the wall only this week…
I can't believe you made it out alive. Take care guys!
I love to watch mountain videos from under a blanket in my sofa. 😺
(I can not stand cold weather even though I'm born in northern Sweden.)
I often visit Northern Sweden..! I walked part of the Kungsladen last winter...
@@nigelvardy Great! It makes me happy to know that you are able to still enjoy outdoor living.
I have to confess I actually live in the middle of Sweden, in Ångermanland or Västernorrland. To everyone though it counts as part of nortern Sweden.
Or summers are basically between June-August, a short autumn and spring, rest is a winter period of ca five month. Still it's nothing compared to living in real nortern Sweden where you have been. 😺
I've been as north as Gällivare myself visiting a friend during springtime. I love the light up north, during the non-winter period. Consider the cold I think I lack every "cold genes" one can have. I have been freezing all my life. 😺
@@somjasa we’re hoping to head back next winter. Very cold and northern lights galore..!
@@nigelvardy I'm happy you enjoy the world of cold crystals ! 😺 Have a great time and take care!😺
@@somjasa will do..!
i’m beyond glad you’re here to live the day and tell a story like this, keep educating to prevent and bro just know that you got love around you .
Thank you Christian. I still speak in schools about my experiences and am part of a mountain rescue team…
@@nigelvardy That’s incredible!
@@twilightskiesx thank you..!
Literally having just returned from Norway with work, I cannot begin to imagine the absolute granite resolve of the three of you in horrendous conditions.
Makes ice breaking drills look like a Sunday afternoon in front of the fire. Absolute best of British!
Thank you Harry..!
This was incredible. Thank you for sharing your touching story
Incredible video! Thank you for posting this.
A pleasure Tem...
This just popped on my reccomended. You are a legend man.
@@Dioxas thank you…
You've hit the algorithm, my friend. Glad you survived!
i like you
@@VisibletoanyoneonUA-camssimp
@@J.G.Wentworth69420 f pi r u
I’m glad you all made it out of there alive. It’s so incredibly brave for you to return to climbing after all that, you must really love it!
@@HotRodCamster it’s what makes me tick…
What an epic. I hope you all have recovered as well as possible given the frostbite injuries. Sorry you had to go through that.
We did thank you. Lots of checks still ongoing, but im still climbing...
I love survival stories like this. It’s amazing how much a human being can endure.
@@carissapaglino4591 we endured a great deal, but we’re still here…
When he said ice hole, i had to do a rewind.
Lol. My brain did a double take too.
I'm glad that wasn't just me.
Wait literally sameee
Me too.
And me Mechelle! How do you catch a polar bear? You need some peas and a shovel, you dig a hole in the ice sprinkle the peas around and when the polar bear comes down for a pea you kick him in the icehole! LOL xxx
Hats off! Perseverance, determination and the audacity to tease death.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Three brave souls! They speak so calmly about everything
Thank you Kawthar. Life does return to some kind of normal after a while...
@Dan Didnot I remember speaking with Sir Ran and comparing frostbite treatment and injuries when I was recovering Dan. I chose surgery, he chose a hacksaw..! We've worked together since and alway joke about our injuries...
Why is this video recommended to me in 2024. Why algorithm why lol
You probably searched out a coat recently on Google.
How do you know that? I was also searching for a coat some minutes ago and this video has appeared on my feed as well...
Me too
Yeah, I’m tripping on this story.
I searched porn and got this...
Do you have prosthetics? If so what tasks can you do / miss being able to do? I read other comments and see that you still climb so I am curious about the strenth of prosthetics and diversity of tasks that they can help with. I appreciate the dedication to your passion, many envy the spirit you have!
Just wanted to say, Nigel sir,you are a legend! Keep it up
@@colbymarks8241 thank you..!
i've been falling down a mountaineering disaster rabbit hole for the past couple of days, and this video popped up in the recommended. it's amazing to see someone go through something so intense but still maintain an air of positivity and a good sense of humor about it - you guys are like the british version of beck weathers! hope you guys are doing well these days - best wishes from the united states :)
Thank you Merry, all doing well here thanks. I’m looking forward to getting back into the mountains when travel restrictions ease...
Then you should look into The Shackleton Expedition and the Robert Falcon Scott Expedition
you’re all so brave i’m so happy you survived. this is an amazing story!!!!
Thank you Marissa...
Absolute legend. Heard you still climb even after the accident to this day!
@@SlickVic5240 still out there..!
You guys are true heros. You are the ones brave enough to expand the human mindset and horizons.
You make the world a better place for showing the brave human spirit and the light of survival against all odds.
Thank you so much.
@@opaaaaaaaaaaa thank you…
Haha “oh suddenly, that’s a nice view”. Humor gets us through even the darkest of times.
Man Steve is an incredible person, risked everything trying to save his mates. I saw this story as a kid and it makes me so happy they’re all alright. Wonder if they ever still climb together?
Ae havent climbed together since, but we're still in touch...
"It's certainly not put me off" lol you guys are made of strong stuff
Strong stuff? Stubborn stuff!
Or stupid stuff. IMO, it's not worth it. So many families have been left grieving, and kids left orphaned or fatherless, and for what?
@@73cidalia and people put their lives on the line to rescue their butts when they get in trouble. I'll add selfish to the list.
Nah just dumb
... or... there's no cure for stupidity.
True passion these guys have that they still noticed the beauty around them . 🙏
Speechless. Wish I had that kind of strength and courage. I have to ask, how bad did that frostbite hurt? I've read that affected areas are more susceptible to cold forevermore - have you experienced long-term effects?
@@thefeatherbrain freezing doesn’t hurt, but thawing out is awful. My hands are particularly prone to the cold, so I’m heading back to Alaska this January..!
@@nigelvardy Lol! That logic checks out.
this video popped up on everyone feed didn't it?
Their resiliency is remarkable. I wish them all the best.
Thank you..!
I've been obsessed with Everest and extreme mountain climbing since I was little. Why is this just now popping up in my feed? Never heard this incredible story!
@nigel I'm glad you and the other boys are doing well and still climbing! I thank God you all made it home! And thank God for that pilot!
@@laurieb3703 thank you. Jim hood really pushed his skills and the helicopter to save our lives…
Watching some minivan reviews,so naturally you recommended this.