My only comfort for this horrific incident is that the divers didn't suffer. They were just gone instantly, and while it's horrible that they died like that, I'm just glad they didn't have to go through any pain.
even if it's sad, ur actually right. It happened so fast that none of the men there (except one I guess) even had the time to process everything. It happened within the snap of a finger, but at least (like you said) they never felt any pain while it took place.
It takes 100 milliseconds for pain to register in the brain. The diver pulled through the bell would have to survive 13 feet of travel at the 90mph mentioned in order to even start feeling pain.
If it takes only one mistake of a person, especially if that person is expected to be at least sometimes tired or work in unfavourable environment, the system is fully at fault.
the "system" is based on human labor, subject to human error. its literally tough tiddy til robots can do it. OUTSIDE can be an unfavourable environment, any environment can be or become unfavourable at any point for any reason for a human laborer. Any fault in the system stems directly from human shortcomings
@eleksisjohnson9736 yes, human labor is subject to human error - but knowing that, and knowing the consequences should things go wrong, it's the responsibility of the people in charge to make sure that when human error happens, it doesn't result in... this
@@eleksisjohnson9736 it's exactly because the system is based on human labour that there should be failsafes to prevent one human error from causing a catastrophe. The fault of the system, in this case, is even exposed in the video: there were already techniques to prevent the kind of incident that ocurred in the byford-dolphin, they just weren't implemented in the platform since they were seen as unnecessary spending.
As far as oil rig accidents go this is the most bloody I can think of... But at least not the most prolonged. Divers stuck in pipes Workers crushed by cranes The list is nightmare fuel but at least for these guys they never even had time to know.
Nah, it's better the longer it lasts. Gives you time to think about really important things. If it's instant, it's just over. You miss out on all the good stuff. Trust me.
So you're all just gonna believe they "died instantly and painlessly" like the mega corps want you to believe? The amount of gullible fools made nowadays is pathetic
I worked for a company that changed from 8 hour shifts to 12 hour shifts; accidents and injuries skyrocketd and their insurance got canceled. Most manufacturers view people as "easily replaced".
@@TheGuitarGod90 It's the way capitalism works. It incentivizes profits over people, and anyone who doesn't loses many and goes bankrupt, getting replaced by the evil corporations that care more about profit.
@@TheGuitarGod90 thank god you're not full of hate. anyway, counterpoint: corpos provide job opportunities, but it is their employee who do almost all of the frontend work. without workers corps would not even exist. at least half of the success is thanks to the workers, the other to management, so employees should be treated fair (ie. not overworked, neglected, uninsured, not taken into account for any changes that are made, etc.)
@@TheGuitarGod90 this video is a good example how corporations work...they push the workers in extreme conditions and when accidents happen the blame is on the workers... f that. Thats why we need regulations, because if its on the corporations side, they really dont care.
12:17 No. The total duration of the incident was less than the time it takes for nerve impulses to travel from one synapse to the next. He didn't experience his... ejection.
I remember watching a special about this years ago. The conclusion was that the pressure ripped the diver out so fast, that any signal from his body like pressure or pain wouldn't have had enough time to register in his brain. He would have had no idea what happened, and definitely felt no pain. I truly cannot wrap my head around that kind of speed and that kind of pressure.
Now what happened to me pales in comparison, but when I cut two fingers off on a table saw, accidentally of course, it took a good 10-15 seconds before any pain set it. So I would assume that he didn't suffer any pain as it happened so quickly. Similar to being shot in the head behind the ear...it's just lights out.
I can't imagine the horror of picturing your husband's body shredded to pieces like that. My heart breaks for the families of gruesome accidents like these.
Poor Ruth Crammond. No compensation, forced to raise their family alone, harassed by ignorant people who wanted someone to blame, and knowing your husband turned into a spaghetti sauce.
the fact that it’s possible to die without even knowing you’re in ANY danger whatsoever and just being alive one second and lights out the next is sorta terrifying
@@MrVoldross i wanted to be an astronaut as a kid and one summer my family visited the houston space center. at the space center they had a movie theater, and a little animated short film about the dangers of being in space as a preview. it talked about gamma ray burst and cartoonishly represented it with a laser beam. instantly killed any desire i had to be an astronaut. thanks, nasa! my parents took me to the space center to foster my dreams and interests, and i left having had those dreams destroyed hahaha
My dad was one of the divers that had to be called in to cover the shifts after this horrific event. He said it was one of the most safest dives he ever felt he went on because they didn't want to screw up a second time!
@@AmandaTheStampede The equipment used had been seriously damaged, so was cut away during "recovery operations" ("mopping up"). Repairing it sufficiently to resume the job the dive-spread was on site for would have been counted as "new construction", so the new regulations would have applied. After the wrecked equipment returned to Comex's field base (Stavanger, or Bergen?), it would have been repaired, re-certified, and returned to service. Where it then ended up is probably known only to Comex's storeman. (Such equipment is "Free Circulation Goods" and doesn't get the level of Customs attention as imports and exports.)
It’s so disgusting that the company blamed it on the men who were working over 10 hours shifts, who were exhausted, and had families at home hoping that this dangerous job wouldn’t kill them today, when they had such a ridiculous form of negligence by refusing to add something which easily would’ve saved their lives. Physics is scary, but I rather have my blood boil and die before I even realize it than die a slow, painful death, the shit the scares me the most is radiation and prions. Shits wild.
@@mertondunikov1106 Ah yes, that very same person who's been stuck under the ocean at 9atm, breathing helium, and other concoction of air in order to survive the harsh working conditions of his 14 hour job he lives in at 4am . That same person- oh no yeah he definitely deserves the blame, it's not disgusting at all to blame him when his poor employers couldn't afford to use safety measures to prevent common human error. It's not like it was easy at all to implement it either, yeah it's all his fault not his employers :((((
@@lifeisadrag7705 It was Crammond the tender who opened the clamp before the door was closed, not the diver. (The company is still at fault for not implementing a very simple and cheap safety measure, however.)
one of my childhood friends went on to become a deep sea construction diver, he'd disappear for 6 months and come back LOADED having been paid a huge amount and, being on an offshore rig, spending absolutely nothing (no bills, no rent, no shops), so he'd come back and buy bikes and cars and take us all out to the most expensive restaurants in town, then he'd go off diving for another 6 months. A nutter and a legend.
The welder was standard rig crew, not part of the diving team. (If I recall the aft deck of the Byford Dolphin correctly, the welder's workshop didn't even look out onto the area for the dive spread and other equipment) 90% of the timer, his work was just regular shipyard welding work ("join this to this, so it doesn't move"), but for this he'd have been using his "gas axe" (oxy-acetylene torch) to turn the jammed and bent pressure-doors into smaller bits of movable metal, so the rig medic could get to the other divers "in the pot" to treat them if necessary. If they had not had "injuries incompatible with life", he'd have needed to get them into the "hyperbaric lifeboat" part of the dive spread, and get them emergency re-compressed to try to manage their bends. Yes, that would have meant the off-shift life-support technician having to operate his equipment minutes after being woken up, and doing so while his colleagues are dieing in front of him. Yes, the case is discussed in life-support technician training. It's a good way of weeding out the people too soft for the job.
@@a.karley4672 damn, that sucks. I work in medicine and unfortunately it doesn't really matter how 'tough' you are. This sort of psychological damage transcends toughness. Our minds are super malleable and seeing something traumatic like this is going to affect you, no matter how much you pretend it doesn't. Stay safe everybody and enjoy life while you can
First: I'll never understand cave diving either, second: How is it not criminal negligence to refrain from installing a lock that protects your workers from instant death?
I spent a week once watching a series of videos of caving gone wrong, both land and underwater (and land that became underwater), and y'all... just stay out of those things.
The concept of the corporate shield, a concept of "legal until it isn't" / "criminality cannot be retro-active", intense non-stop lobbying by businesses against every government on the planet, and the fact that MOST world-leaders are either involved with businesses themselves, or are closely integrated with others such that they have a vested interest in stopping criminal liability from moving up the corporate ladder. Fundamentally, I agree with you. This incident should have resulted in criminal proceedings against the company itself, and several of the executives who ultimately made the call to save $ at the expense of safety. I imagine that if we stopped fining companies, and instead started arresting their executives there would be a lot more accountability and more of a push for safety and security first cultures.
When I saw the title of the video, I thought, “Squeeze a human through a five inch gap? That’s impossible! You would have to be folded up really tightly beforehand, and you… oh… OHH”
I thought it would only be one part of a body. At the start, they mentioned someone needing a tourniquet, so I figured that was it. Oh...oh how wrong I was.
I got recommended this video after watching something about the OceanGate inquiry (the entire carbon -fibre sub burst and ruptured causing instantaneous explosive decompression). I knew what I was getting into and still horrified.
Blame overworked, exhausted employees for a horrific incident that could have been avoided by the company installing a simple and cheap safety measure. But the owners and stockholders need another couple of dollars. Yup. That tracks.
Fact: It is literally more lethal to drive while tired, than to drive entoxicated. Now, apply this to any company that wants 12 hour shifts and you got a deathtrap.
@Puschit1 If I recall correctly, it was from a Myth Buster's episode that found that driving tired is equally as dangerous as driving tipsy. The key words being "equally" and "tipsy." Saying driving tired is "more lethan" than driving drunk is incorrect. Hope that helps 😊 Edit: I have been informed that driving tired can in fact be more lethal than driving drunk. Tho I think it's safe to say it's not good to do either. Thanks for the likes everybody 👍
@@Puschit1 In a study double-checking how much sleep adults needed (it's 10 hours btw. 7-8 is a scam), they found that someone who was short 1-2 hours of sleep every day for 1 week was functioning at the same level as someone who was drunk. So technically, the factoid (tired is more dangerous than drunk) is correct but only in this context of perpetually overworked employees.
I will never forget the way I once saw this horrible incident described; that the instant that chamber depressurized, his body stopped being biology and turned into physics
When you have two shifts of divers "in the pot", there's no benefit to working them more than a 12 hour shift - for exactly the reasons you suggest. Unfortunately, the weather generally doesn't read the weather forecast, let alone agree with it. It's not just divers in their diving bells who are restricted in the sea-conditions in which they can travel through the "splash zone" (typically about 5m below sea level to about 8m above it). Other equipment gets held up - by days some times, while "waiting on weather". Which is one of the reasons the dive bell carries food stocks, and contains heating systems for the hot-water system that manages the diver's hypothermia. What it's like in the tropics, I dread to think ; probably they have to lower the divers back to the seabed to cool off, if the weather plays "uncooperative".
@@raics101 You're living in a steel cylinder 2.5m wide by 5m long. Bunk beds, a table, a TV. That's it. Going out for a walk is a 2-week long operation (one week down to surface pressure ; one week back up from it), and if your fellow dweller is trying to sleep, it's probably best to not turn the telly up. What are you going to do apart from lay on your bunk?
@@a.karley4672 Yeah, exactly, nothing to do but rest. It isn't easy but probably helps when you remember that you at least won't be stuck in traffic when the shift ends.
Why do people blame a person's family for what they believe someone did or didn't do? His wife was innocent of this. She was nowhere near it. She suffered a loss, as well. People need to be less hateful and more empathetic to others. I know it's never going to happen but hope is still free.
Because people will take any shot they can at others who can’t defend themselves. Its what happens when you let bots and people with bot like IQs have unrestricted access to everything on the internet
I’m so tired of hearing about accidents caused by a gadget that wasn’t installed because of “Grandfathering in”. It’s bullshit! Safety regulations should apply to every project, vessel, piece of machinery, etc. Not just new projects, machines, etc.
It's so easy to imagine someone being taught that something is always installed and then switching to working on something with exceptions made that they're unaware of. I wonder if something like that happened here.
Another famous accident that was largely caused by the "grandfathering in" of an old structure that was not required to have a sprinkler system was The Station Nightclub Fire that occurred in West Warwick, Rhode Island in 2003. The entire incident was caught on video and various videos are here on You Tube from the incident itself to the analyses, and to some survivor testimonies. There were numerous other causes to the incident, too many to list here. The band Great White was playing that night and their pyrotechnics caught the foam on the walls on fire. 100 people died in the incident, not able to get out of the building. It was gruesome.
I'm machine mechanic, hence by my occupation I work with real life hazards but I yet disagree with you to some extent. No, not all safety regulations should apply to everything. It can make working absolute hell at worst, can increase worker stress etc. Don't get me wrong. There are tons and tons of equipment that should have insane amount of safety devices, but there lies the thing, that's actually fairly common these days. Risk assesment. If device can at worst give you nasty cut, well it's bit dangerous and care shold be taken handling it. If device can kill you in an instant, well that's completely different thing. I quite a bit dislike the modern "let's wrap every single device and thing in cotton, just in case someone might get paper cut". Safety "Karen's" are real deal in industries. Morons that create idiotic solutions to problems that might not even exist.
I'm a machinist by trade and there's some seriously scary stuff that can happen to you on a lathe, maybe not sucked out of a 5 inch hole by 9 atmospheres or delta p or whatever it might be, but still. There's a horror story called the Russian lathe incident where a guy got pulled into a pretty average sized lathe and got spun hundreds of times in just a moment, his body slamming against the metal bed of the lathe over and over again at hundreds of miles an hour.. Every safety rule and regulation is written in somebody's blood. Thats why it's so important to be so cautious and respect your field.
It's a video not just a story. It was like a lawn sprinkler but with the contents of a human body,just wet red spray until there was barely anything left. The machines are built to cut solid steel,people are nothing to them.
I saw the video of that, I believe. Huge steel lathe though, longer than a human. It was unreal the way his body bent in half like a cartoon. As easily as that lathe was designed to cut steel into shape, it turned his body into flapping goo. Someone pointed out he bent over the lathe before he got caught, which is an immediate dismissal safety offense with that equipment.
@@Badficwriter I guess bigger than a human is pretty large for a lathe when you think of it. Look at me taking its size for granted out of complacency 😂 gonna end up hurt like that. The one in the video is just a bit shorter in length than the ones we have at our shop. I have a pretty small southbend at home, and honestly in my brain it doesnt even register as the same type of machine sometimes.
@@elliotalderson8358 I have mild claustrophobia, so while I appreciate their work, I wouldn't even be able to do it. I'd need a spaceship the size of a Borg Cube to even consider going into space but the bottom of the sea is just so much worse.
@@elliotalderson8358off shore oil platforms are not a requirement for oil, affordable or otherwise. I would guess(too lazy to google😅) that OVER half of the world's daily oil production is land-based, AND that this sort of work isn't required for platforms to exist....
Just a thought: if a single person's mistake can cost so many people their lives, then the actual blame should be on whoever set up the system. I make mistakes at work all the time, mistakes are human.
"the actual blame should be on whoever set up the system" ... which is why international companies move staff around regularly, so that the entire blame can't be pinned on *one* person or group of people. When there is an "incident", they can "cooperate with the investigation" while continuing to move "peripherally-related" into and out of the country, and conveniently, when it's time for someone to go to jail, the relevant "someone" is in a different country, and there's an appeal about their level of culpability. No, it's not accidental. It is a well-thought-through practice, operated for decades.
@a.karley4672 that's just dumb tho. If a company employee set up the system, then they did it in the name of the company, so the company itself should be held responsible - and because a company is a possession of humans, then those humans should be held responsible - the owners and the people who run the thing. Imagine a world where if you own a part of a company - you're a shareholder, you're legally partially (let's say if you own 10% of the company, you get 10% of the legal consequences) responsible for the company's actions. I bet companies would start acting way more ethically overnight if the people who make money from it actually were held responsible for the way in which the money is made.
@@luxurypetscz But the system will never be designed like that, because their money influences the laws. If you have rich people, you have corrupted lawmakers.
@@a.karley4672 That's not true in many countries. Where I live, if people gets hurt or killed, it's the superior that's blamed always first. No excuses, apart if it can be proved that superior tried to make things more safe, but for some 3rd party reason it had failed. These superiors _will_ be fined by law. This included higher management too if needed.
@@jothain The only country where I can think of that applying would be Norway - where I've spent around 18 months working over the decades. Everywhere else, the SOP of the oilfield applies : money talks, and the people with the money behind them walk away from any problems and deaths they cause. That includes the UK where I live.
Absolutely best account of this I've come across. Respectful yet specific telling of what actually happened, and no shying away from the fact that essentially the problem came down to a lack of regulation plus profit. Good Content.
a family friend was one of the people on deck who had to clean the mess afterwards. i remember him telling us about it, and it truly sounded horrific...
One of my cave-diving friends spent a month recovering bodies from the Piper Alpha after they'd been fish food for several months. Not fun. Fiddly too - forensic detail of recovery.
From everything I've read. All 4 divers in Trinidad survived being sucked into the pipeline with survivable injuries. I think one guy had a broken leg. The biggest problem was being trapped in an air bubble with no air tanks. One man miraculously made it out of the pipe. He was then immediately informed that it had been deemed too dangerous to attempt to rescue the remaining men. He tried to re-enter the pipe to rescue his co-workers but was restrained. Basically, it was something that should've been a cautionary tale in which everyone survived. Then the company turned it into a tragedy that was 3 men slowly suffocating in a dark oil pipeline while waiting for help that was never coming. Edit: this incident wasn't saturation diving. They were just normal technical divers.
11:06 you misspoke or misread the original autopsy. It wasn't 10 feet, it was 10 METERS. Also it wasn't four "body bags", the report says "plastic bags." There's probably a difference. I know I'm being nitpicky but you have an audience of millions so accuracy is important.
I was a saturation diver for 6 years between 2011 & 2017 and your video is pretty accurate. I’ve been to 600 feet in Baku Azerbaijan and we took 7 days to decompress. We stayed under pressure for 28 days at the time breathing a mixture of 96% Helium & 4% Oxygen. While inside the saturation system we were getting paid 1,420$ USD per day back in 2013. We’ve all heard about this accident during our training, I’m Canadian and I’ve done my saturation diving course in Australia and worked all over the world. I still work offshore for oil and gas but I don’t dive anymore, I live in Thailand and I work for a UK based company. I’m off to Malaysia on Sunday for my next job. Glad you’ve made a video about this subject!
Thats awesome that you get paid so well and get to travel. How many jobs would you say you do per year on average? Do you have family you're away from?
Same. This is nightmare stuff. Pressures are no joke. Going into space is just 1 atmosphere difference between inside and the vacuum of space. Here, they were dealing with 9 atmospheres of pressure.
excuse me, you're dealing with a 9atm pressure vessel for humans, and you chose NOT to install a thing that prevents it from accidentally decompressing due to human error. Something like this should pretty much ALWAYS fail SAFE in the event of human error and prob at least single point failure
That was my thought too. Plus - isn't it MUCH cheaper to invest in fail-safe equipment than.. idk.. have lawsuits haunting you, live with trauma forever, traumatise and tear families apart, losing a good chunk of your most valuable employees & having to replace all the equipment that broke because safety precautions weren't taken? Make it make sense. Money was never an excuse, it was pure neglect and laziness from the boss.
@@jefism Yes there are new regulations and requirements. However our government bureaus are still THE SERVANTS of industry. Concierge to the Capital Barons. The US Army has been sent to CRUSH labor uprisings throughout history, they act as peacekeepers only after a bloody massacre of men women and children by company gunmen...Like the Pinkertons. Just look at Boeing. The FAA didn't restrict anything until China did. Which embarrassed the FAA to be sure.
@@K.A.Riley09No, it was. That person was writhing in pain with their face clean shaven off. At least these people were dead before they realized what had happened
@@Uncreative_Username I'm sorry I just can't with ANYTHING deep sea related at all. It's my thalassophobia. Having not seen the Funkytown vid in a while (because who the hell would actively try to watch that shit again) I just spoke without thinking. Mb gng. Maybe a more appropriate comparison would've been the Ronnie McNutt vid.
My dad is a saturation diver in the North Sea. I think he started diving right around the time this happened. If you’re interested in finding out more detail about the job and another disturbing incident, I’d recommend the documentary film ‘Last Breath’. The accident in it actually took place on his ship when he was there, although he didn’t tell me that until a few years later. Also, the helium voice is very funny when they call home, especially if they’re annoyed at you about something but just sound like a happy gnome.
I got assigned to the Byford Dolphin for a couple of wells in the early 2000s (interesting work geologically, "Neptunian dykes" and fun geosteering, but "meh") and recognised the name from the distant past. So I did my research and found out about this accident. There were still people working there who had been on board for the investigation. A year or so later, I was having lunch with a journalist friend while attending the OILC (offshore worker's trade union) conference, where we'd been discussing the continuing FAI (Fatal Accident Inquiry) into a guy who got pulled through a 5inch pipe while riding a hoist line to work under the drill floor. Then we discovered that the couple we were sharing a table with were actually the parents of the dead guy. (They were actually pleased that their son's horrible, horrible death might actually prevent the same thing happening again to someone else. Because we were discussing it, and I'd be taking the reports back out to the rigs to try to prevent the same thing happening again. Remember that ; I do.) All very disturbing. But the public record of the FAI was literally REQUIRED reading for rig safety officers for the next year. Something positive. Less than a year later, I was attending the morning Operations planning meeting on another oil company's rig, and reading the overnight "flash reports" from other rigs in the North Sea. They'd done it *again* - the same (drilling) company, in the same country, working for a different oil company had again tried to pull a guy, slowly, backwards through a less-than body-size pipe. Fortunately, this time they had a third guy watching the under-deck operations with a radio, and the guy on the rope got a sore back and new underwear. But the company hadn't learned. Not one jot, or iota. I don't work in the oilfield any more. But I don't hope it has improved since I left. They'll continue killing people, and re-locating the responsible managers to other countries before the law catches up with them. But it kept down prices at the petrol pump!
Me: Ah, so this is where that dolphin and a scientist researcher lady got a little frisky and----- Joe: A man was horrificly squeezed through the doorway and turned into human bacon, and there was a cover-up
@@witchdoctor6502 The company that was responsible for operating the diving bell (and upgrading it) *chose* not to do so, and when things went sideways and fatalities resulted, they essentially blamed one guy. It took a lawsuit **twenty-five years** later for the whole story to be told. *THAT* cover-up.
The story of those men who got sucked into and trapped within an oil pipeline is the stuff of nightmares. Pitch black, panicking, hundreds of feet under water, fighting claustrophobia... and on top of it all, they didn't know whether to move forward or go back due to being ragdolled into the pipe and totally disorientated 😢
This is the reverse of OceanGate in many ways, but ends with the same lesson- the regulations and safety equipment are there for very good reasons, and the cost of ignoring them is too high.
OceanGate was an implosion, this was explosive decompression. Same horrific, solid-biologic-structures-turned-to-liquid kind of deaths, just different means of sudden physics.
The difference is that this equipment was safe to operate so long as you followed the procedures and checklist, failure of which led to the accident. With OceanGate the equipment was a flawed POS design from the get-go, and the operator thought he was smarter than the experienced guys he fired for telling him he was taking needless risks.
For those with sick minds (and strong stomachs) the Byford Dolphin "Scene Analysis" photos are out there, I've seen them on reddit, but I'm sure they are easily found via google, *_and they are every bit as bad as our host warns._* In fact, due to the 1980s camera tech, they look like classic slasher movie stills. Leatherface meets Texas Chainsaw, but on an offshore dive rig. And yes.... there is a photo of of Hellevik's entire face, shorn clean off his skull, and just sort of lying there... There's also a photo of his torso, blasted open and emptied of organs (save for a scrap of trachea and a small dangle of bowel), and the worst photo IMHO, is the 6 or 7 vertibre and spinal cord which were blasted out and just lying on the deck, kind of like a chewed up dog bone... Its pretty bad. I was an EMT and saw some grizzly stuff, but this is next level "human in a blender" stuff you only see in war. Like, the only other way to see injuries THIS profound is to see dead combatants who have taken direct hits by artillery, rockets, or bombs. Damn....
I was curious if they had photos, but I definitely can’t handle those kind of shots. I have the morbid curiosity to want to glance at the scene from afar to get an idea of what it looked like, but knowing there’s pictures of all THAT- no way.
I know this comment will get lost and I usually don’t bother to leave them at all, but you’re a natural reporter. Your tone, cadence, and writing is so easy to understand and exciting to watch, and your energy is calm and comforting despite covering grisly topics. You’ve got a new sub here, keep it up, this is totally your niche.
Oh my gosh. Just the illustration of the man’s body going through the 5 inch opening was horrible enough. Joe, your expressions while telling this story are priceless.
I dislike the logic of "at least we can learn from these horrific incidents." These incidents were caused by poor work practices of overworking and greed by a company that didn't want to shell out the extra money. In real time, right now, right this very second, some airplane companies are trying to move over to a one pilot system. We KNOW that one is not enough, but the people in charge want to wait until enough people die before they pull back and change their minds. Then what? Well, here you'll be saying, "at least we can learn our lesson from this awful experience" Great video, definitely going to watch more content.
it is so sad to see how we're going backwards again. it feels like safety standards were improved massively because of the sheer amount of accidents that occured when we first started getting access to machines that could kill us in moments. and now things are getting a little too safe, so corporates are getting complacent and finding ways to wipe away these rules that were written in blood.
I love this comment. Sometimes there is no silver lining. And it took 25 years for a coalition of citizens to finally succeed in holding the company somewhat accountable. I don’t even know if lawmaking got changed to stop grandfathering in rigs that don’t have up-to-date safety measures. It’s honestly a cautionary tale to not wait until the next accident is too horrific and senseless to stomach before we hold companies’ feet to the fire.
you are right, but unfortunately media coverage and general interest isn't that high when its just potentially dangerous. On the other hand regulation lawmakers need to step in in such cases, but as the lobbying for more than 8h shifts suggests the system is rather corrupt sometimes (but hopefully not often)
Remember: an employee can never be at fault for a corporate disaster. No matter what, it will always be the corporation's fault since they control every process from work to safety.
Well i wouldn't say 'never'. If a worker did it on purpose, then that would be very much their fault. But being overworked or having crappy safety mechanisms is absolute not the workers fault.
Or if the dockworkers union on the east coast gets their anti-automation pieces of the contract, I think the union should be the one paying for any worker injuries or deaths that occur which would have been eliminated by automation.
Yeah that sort of absolute statement is always wrong. If an employee doesn't adhere to standards set by the corporation and as a result of that caused the accident, the corporation can't be said to be at fault.
@@DustinRodriguez1_0 no, there's no precedent for that. Neither party can be held liable for not taking actions they "could" have taken. Otherwise you could argue that anything is the companies fault, because there's always a way to make things safer. There is an acceptable ratio of efficiency and safety, but you can't expect every party to take every measure possible and then blame them if they don't. they negotiate contract terms every 6 years. This year they included that ai/automation will not replace or displace certain jobs. If the company was comfortable with the way things are currently, (and they are, because they have been doing so) then the company assumes fault regardless of automation or not.
@15:35 You have to do a video on that story about the divers sucked into the pipe. I'm warning anyone who is claustrophobic: you may get some significant anxiety hearing it. And the last I heard, the company is still not owning up to responsibility, nor are they doing anything for the families of the dead men.
Thank god these pictures were taken older cause if they were newer with color and depth, i would be vomiting, They are still human these pictures of organs and tissues are inside us, Extremely grossed me and i my hearts go out to these people.
@@That1cl0setpers0nI personally wouldn’t say the image is awful but thats because you can barely tell whats there. It’s discolored, no blood, and mangled to the point you can’t tell whats going on.
what gets me is how the families must feel, knowing how their loved ones died so horrifically. and then being reminded of it repeatedly by the morbid fascination the internet has about it.
Ill describe the images from the autopsy report for anyone that is curious but doesn't want to see: The main image is of diver 4's remains: one leg, severed and fractured in many places; the remains of a pelvis (more mush than bone); thoracic cavity, organs missing; spinal column, more closely resembles a drumstick; both shoulders, destroyed; both arms, fractured and destroyed in many places; one hand, disjointed and broken; and a mass of flesh where the skull should be. There are photos of the other 3 divers, naked and intact. The photos are black wnd white, so its a bit hard to tell whats going on. One has a particularly grizzly expression. The soft tissues of diver 4's face somehow survived, however they were detached from his skull. It is recognizable as a face, with the mouth, nose, one eye, and eyebrow preserved. I think this is the worst image. An open eyeball, with a bursa under the cornea. A thoracic cavity thats hard to determine much of what is going on. A spinal column, isolated from anything else. The external view of the ribcage of diver one Pleural bursas, A stomach, Cardiac chamber with free fat deposits. Microscopy of the liver, bones, cerebral vessels. And lastly, gas bubbles visible in cerebral vessels. Also, the autopsy report is an interesting read if you are medically inclined. If you are desensitized to gore and brutal body horror, the report is worth a read. There are colorized images on google of diver 4's remains, which is kinda brutal. Regardless, the speed with which their blood and organs boiled and the speed with which diver 4 was fragmented likely means they felt nothing. Also, the report states that the fat deposits are likely due to the boiling blood crashing lipids out of solution, which is awful.
Thank you for this. It's good to know what you are looking at ahead of time. Otherwise you just get a jumbled mess that takes your mind a bit to sort out.
I'm stopping a third of the way into the video just to mention that these are the best, most understandable visuals I've ever seen in a video about this incident. Never had I imagined they had to CRAWL through that opening.
Too many youtubers show partial pictures without doing the proper care to actually make it bearable. Don't get me started on the times I've seen abhorrent shite because of only a 3 second warning to skip ahead
Norway has not switched to using the Euro, they still use the Norwegian Kroner. Just Because Norway and the UK are in Europe, Doesn't mean we both fully joined the ERM in 1991. (or stayed in it)
There are photos and video of this event out there on the internet. I have seen them, as part of safety training on work under pressure as a pipe fitter, and I STRONGLY suggest that you do not go looking for those pictures. Those pictures coupled with the detailed story of how this specific disaster happened gave me nightmares for the entire time I worked at that job. I was not a saturation diver, but did sometimes work in caissons, which is a less high pressure condition, but it's a matter of degree more than anything. Just don't go looking for it. You don't want to know, you don't want those images floating in the darkness late at night while you try to get to sleep. You just don't.
Damn Joe! Of all the youtube videos I've seen covering this tragedy, yours was by far the most informative, illustrative, and best put together! Thank you. Kudos for your efforts, new subscriber here 👏🏽🫡
Thanks a lot for not putting pictures in the video honestly. Can't count the times my curiosity has gotten me traumatized. now I can sleep knowing they all died painlessly and TBH I don't think it's anywhere near how bad life can get. this is one of the nicest deaths for the people, but traumatizing for the bystanders. reminds me of ironlung. the real horrifying part of this is the awful working condition, and what pushed these people to take them.
it still boggles my mind that human beings can function for days upon days at a pressure of about 20 atmospheres. and then on top of that, they're not even breathing a normal earth atmosphere. we have myths about the cockroach being able to survive incredible conditions, but really, that is pretty darn incredible. Too bad we can't survive being extruded.
Oh dear. I clicked in this to be educated, i didn't actually realize how bad the incident was 😬 and now that knowledge lives in my brain! Thank you for not including any pictures.
BIG-ish CORRECTION: Trimix shouldn't/isn't be used below 120'-160' (~36m, even less depending on some people) as it causes nitrogen narcosis. Instead, usually only helium and oxygen are used (and sometimes other inert gases are added like argon, but that can have it's own narcotic effect) at depth and in saturation driving. In this case, it was oxygen and helium only. Not sure how the writer(s) missed that multiple times.
@@the_silent_tortoise True, and the amount of oxygen is reduced to minimize the partial pressure problems of 20% oxygen at 9 atmospheres. Oxygen toxicity is almost never talked about.
I hope they conserve the heck out of that helium. Until we have sources from space what we have from that which we’ve found trapped with natural gas is all we’ve got for millions of years.
Things like this and the Oceangate thing have brought me to a favorite new phrase. "At some point, you stop being biology and start being physics." Accurate.
What I love about Joe is that he's able to take these honestly horrendous stories and present them in a way that plebians like me can digest without puking. "I hope that gave you a smile because... the rest of this video is horrifying." He delivers lines like this with such perfect precision, eases us into this stuff with such skill and grace. In an alternate timeline I hope Professor Scott teaches generations of young, hopeful college students the potential horrors of reality in a way that prepares them to *not* cause anything like this to happen.
17:17 To be fair even though it’s a 1in7 chance of dying on the job, compared to dying in any other way. Its literally instantaneous. And you make a lot of money, some people will take that risk any day
My grandfather was on a submarine crew during the cold war, and worked with lot of experimental deep dive projects, including Trieste. He told me a story about investigating the mysterious death of diver for no apparent reason. They ended up determining it to be basically dying from exposure. The bottom of the ocean, as it turns out, is cold. You didn't mention this, but turns out it SUPER important to not dying - Helium at 20 atmospheres is an INCREIDIBLY good thermal conductor (like 10x as good as air under normal conditions, multiplied by the pressure). So the guy basically died from exposure just from BREATHING HelOx slightly too cold.
@@davidbeppler3032 Pure vacuum is a fairly good thermal insulator. I don't think it is really the temperature, but how fast thermal energy can move through a material.
It's fairly normal even in sports diving if you're diving a mix with significant helium in it to use a separate air cylinder for drysuit inflation just becuase of the thermal properties of helium.
When it comes to safety regulations, something my father always told me about them sticks with me. “The path to improvement is paid with blood.” Our current safety measures aren’t here because of vigilance, but tragedy.
We were just discussing this, after watching Wakanda Forever. The sea people should have basically exploded when they surfaced... Would have been a much shorter movie
You're speaking of critters that are specialized with soft, airy tissues. Animals that go up and down have thick bodies, like Greenland sharks and sperm whales. The Marvel Atlanteans are notoriously thick and superstrong.
The reason I know about the Byford Dolphin because it was actually docked near where I grew up. This was fairly normal so I was used to seeing massive oil rigs docked. What made this different was my dad and I were walking and we stopped to look at it. That's when my dad told me about it in quite a lot of detail...I was like 9 at the time. Didn't sleep for a week, thanks dad!
Invergordon, or Dundee? Driving between Aberdeen and England past the burned-out wreck of the Ocean Odyssey in Dundee harbour for several years was ... thought provoking. At least they re-routed helicopter traffic away from the stump of the Piper after the Odyssey. I always found flying to work over that unsettling .
Reminds me of something an old Chief told me back in the day. "Safety rules are written in blood." Something he would say whenever us new guys were rolling our eyes through our safety briefing powerpoints. As per usual, the elders knew the way and us young guys just thought we knew better. Some things never change.
Working underwater is weird. I’ve only done offshore diving down to 50 meters. Welding and you might get electrocuted, working on pipes and delta p might get you, hoisting structures with airbags and topside cranes and stuff can squish you, oxy-arc cutting and you need to be careful that gas is not building up somewhere because that stuff explodes, salvage diving in shipwrecks and you need to be aware of the air pockets that can shift and start to spin whatever you’re inside around (the air you breath out adds to this problem), strong underwater currents smash you into hard places, strange animals try to bite you, $20,000 dive helmet can fail and while you can still struggle to breath in your helmet that is full of ocean you have to do decompression stops, equipment failure and human error can cut of your air-supply, air tools will make your ears itch like there is no tomorrow, you can rupture your ear drums going down AND coming up, you can follow every decompression table known to man but certain activities and/or environments can still give you tiny decompression sickness (usually just joint pain and itchy skin but you can be unlucky), working on ship propellers can be a nice gig but divers have been chopped up by them, you can get so cold that you’ll feel cold for a couple of days, there are no bathrooms in a drysuit and peeing in it will only give you a minute of warmth. Oh, yeah and you’re spot on about visibility. As soon as you start working there is none, I usually just ask topside to turn of my light because it isn’t doing me any favors. The comms are horrible too. We can get crystal clear comms with someone in space, but go down 50 meters and you’re on some proto-radio. I switched careers and haven’t worked underwater for at least 4 years, but I miss it every almost every day.
Better have a healthy supportive partner back home. If you're distracted w some drama bs ... might not be coming home. And for that reason.... I'm out ! Oh, and also the adhd 😅 Thanks, this was illuminating.
18:07 welding specifically can’t always be done by robots it’s just something that needs a human to do unfortunately. they can use welding robots for some stuff tho
I don’t know much about welding so is there a specific reason? If it’s just precision my first thought was the robots for surgery. It’s not an autonomous robot but a robot controlled by a surgeon to help with precision, it’s pretty cool and again I don’t know anything about welding let alone undersea welding but wouldn’t it be theoretically possible for something similar to be constructed for welding?
@@mikeycallihan3551welder here. I work in a stainless steel shop, we only use them for straight line welds controlled by people, and even those mess up quite often. But even at the bigger shops I have been to, they only do straight lines controlled by people, just mess up less.
@@leechowning2712 No. Norway uses the Norwegian Kroner (NOK), not the Euro. In fact, the Euro was more widely accepted in the UK than in Norway, the last time I worked in Norway. Norway is a member of the EFTA - European Free Trade Association - not the EU. It is subject to EU regulations in regard of equipment and services, but does not get to vote on them. However, it is not subject to European business and social legislation - they do not want to lower themselves to European standards. I bet that raised a lot of discussion in Sweden when they were considering joining the EU. Comex - the diving company, are American, so probably paid people in dollars.
@@nullcypher Agreed. Nothing horrifying about it at all. 4 people died without pain, 1 with a lot of pain, and one survived. What we do to prisoners in America is far worse and nobody cares about that at all.
@@nullcypher i agree, they didn't suffer! it sounds like a pretty gruesome scene, but every armed conflict ever has more gruosome stuff happen on the daily
11:28 For those with the same morbid curiosity as me. Before you look at the incident report, yes there are 4 pictures with the content of each of the 4 body bags and yes there is a picture of his face (just the skin of his face). You have been warned.
@@andreasu.3546yup there is an experiment for that, I think they named their kid stupid and smart or something to see if it can affect something in their life and it did, you'll be amazed how name can impact day to day, crazy how the parent named their kid coward it's horrible.
i'm from trinidad. when I saw this title and begining of the video i thought you was gonna cover the trinidad incident, i'm glad it got a mention. at the time when it happened everyone was horrified by the news. it took days to recover them
My only comfort for this horrific incident is that the divers didn't suffer. They were just gone instantly, and while it's horrible that they died like that, I'm just glad they didn't have to go through any pain.
even if it's sad, ur actually right. It happened so fast that none of the men there (except one I guess) even had the time to process everything. It happened within the snap of a finger, but at least (like you said) they never felt any pain while it took place.
@@gteds15 Yeah, at most, one guy was like, "Oh sh-" then, lights out.
@@gteds15 Actually not even that
@@Redacted_Theoristyeah bro was probably yapping then he was like ye-
It takes 100 milliseconds for pain to register in the brain. The diver pulled through the bell would have to survive 13 feet of travel at the 90mph mentioned in order to even start feeling pain.
If it takes only one mistake of a person, especially if that person is expected to be at least sometimes tired or work in unfavourable environment, the system is fully at fault.
I agree
the "system" is based on human labor, subject to human error. its literally tough tiddy til robots can do it. OUTSIDE can be an unfavourable environment, any environment can be or become unfavourable at any point for any reason for a human laborer. Any fault in the system stems directly from human shortcomings
@eleksisjohnson9736 yes, human labor is subject to human error - but knowing that, and knowing the consequences should things go wrong, it's the responsibility of the people in charge to make sure that when human error happens, it doesn't result in... this
@@eleksisjohnson9736 You try to idiot proof stuff.
@@eleksisjohnson9736 it's exactly because the system is based on human labour that there should be failsafes to prevent one human error from causing a catastrophe. The fault of the system, in this case, is even exposed in the video: there were already techniques to prevent the kind of incident that ocurred in the byford-dolphin, they just weren't implemented in the platform since they were seen as unnecessary spending.
As gruesome as this is. I would rather die instantly and not even be aware, than die a slow, painful, degenerating death.
Yeah. Just not an instant death because of work...
As far as oil rig accidents go this is the most bloody I can think of... But at least not the most prolonged.
Divers stuck in pipes
Workers crushed by cranes
The list is nightmare fuel but at least for these guys they never even had time to know.
As a long time construction worker and for the past three years a welder, theres a dizzying array of ways to die in both feilds, very few are instant
Remember that TV show "1000 ways to Die!" ?! lol
Nah, it's better the longer it lasts. Gives you time to think about really important things. If it's instant, it's just over. You miss out on all the good stuff. Trust me.
I got a fitness ad with a guy saying "this is how you get shredded!" right at 10:55..... yeah youtube is wild for that one
well, he wasnt wrong
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SO DID I 😭
Bro
So you're all just gonna believe they "died instantly and painlessly" like the mega corps want you to believe? The amount of gullible fools made nowadays is pathetic
I worked for a company that changed from 8 hour shifts to 12 hour shifts; accidents and injuries skyrocketd and their insurance got canceled. Most manufacturers view people as "easily replaced".
Not just manufacturers. Most corporations.
@@TheGuitarGod90 It's the way capitalism works. It incentivizes profits over people, and anyone who doesn't loses many and goes bankrupt, getting replaced by the evil corporations that care more about profit.
@TheGuitarGod90 Could be decades before that takes off. Fighting for regulations now, for everyone, is better.
@@TheGuitarGod90 thank god you're not full of hate. anyway, counterpoint: corpos provide job opportunities, but it is their employee who do almost all of the frontend work. without workers corps would not even exist. at least half of the success is thanks to the workers, the other to management, so employees should be treated fair (ie. not overworked, neglected, uninsured, not taken into account for any changes that are made, etc.)
@@TheGuitarGod90 this video is a good example how corporations work...they push the workers in extreme conditions and when accidents happen the blame is on the workers... f that. Thats why we need regulations, because if its on the corporations side, they really dont care.
12:17 No. The total duration of the incident was less than the time it takes for nerve impulses to travel from one synapse to the next. He didn't experience his... ejection.
Yup. Much like the titan. The pain receptors could not send a signal to the brain to even fire a full neuron.
bro got yeeted so hard he didn't even know it
"Weeeee"
you can word that a lil better but yeah, human grapeshot
@@s.sinsterWe know you struggle with reading comprehension.
I remember watching a special about this years ago. The conclusion was that the pressure ripped the diver out so fast, that any signal from his body like pressure or pain wouldn't have had enough time to register in his brain. He would have had no idea what happened, and definitely felt no pain. I truly cannot wrap my head around that kind of speed and that kind of pressure.
Now what happened to me pales in comparison, but when I cut two fingers off on a table saw, accidentally of course, it took a good 10-15 seconds before any pain set it. So I would assume that he didn't suffer any pain as it happened so quickly. Similar to being shot in the head behind the ear...it's just lights out.
I really hope that's true cuz the alternative is horrific 😢
Probably similar to the physics inside the barrel of a firearm when the trigger is pulled.
At least it was a sudden lights out because that autopsy report is not pretty.
@@pyerackIt was the last place I wanted to learn about the word "invaginated"
I can't imagine the horror of picturing your husband's body shredded to pieces like that. My heart breaks for the families of gruesome accidents like these.
Poor Ruth Crammond. No compensation, forced to raise their family alone, harassed by ignorant people who wanted someone to blame, and knowing your husband turned into a spaghetti sauce.
@@acidmana6141 but he didn't. That's not the diver...
fair warning
there are pictures of the bodies
i feel horrible now
@@acidmana6141I lost it at the spaghetti sauce part 😭
the fact that it’s possible to die without even knowing you’re in ANY danger whatsoever and just being alive one second and lights out the next is sorta terrifying
That very idea kept me awake at night as a kid after finding out that gamma ray burst exist and most objects that might hit earth will go undetected 💀
makes me comfortable lmao, painless and fast
Deep sea welders probably live every second knowing that their life is about to end
@@MrVoldross i wanted to be an astronaut as a kid and one summer my family visited the houston space center. at the space center they had a movie theater, and a little animated short film about the dangers of being in space as a preview. it talked about gamma ray burst and cartoonishly represented it with a laser beam. instantly killed any desire i had to be an astronaut.
thanks, nasa! my parents took me to the space center to foster my dreams and interests, and i left having had those dreams destroyed hahaha
That sounds like the best way to go.
My dad was one of the divers that had to be called in to cover the shifts after this horrific event. He said it was one of the most safest dives he ever felt he went on because they didn't want to screw up a second time!
I'm amazed he still wanted to work after seeing how the company already failed the last guys
@@AmandaTheStampede The equipment used had been seriously damaged, so was cut away during "recovery operations" ("mopping up"). Repairing it sufficiently to resume the job the dive-spread was on site for would have been counted as "new construction", so the new regulations would have applied.
After the wrecked equipment returned to Comex's field base (Stavanger, or Bergen?), it would have been repaired, re-certified, and returned to service. Where it then ended up is probably known only to Comex's storeman. (Such equipment is "Free Circulation Goods" and doesn't get the level of Customs attention as imports and exports.)
@@robertobradford3968 what are you expecting from a UA-cam comment? Shakespeare?
@@scottygagnon4287 Some basic English would be nice.
@@robertobradford3968you can understand what they’re saying though, it isn’t that deep they probably just made a typo
It’s so disgusting that the company blamed it on the men who were working over 10 hours shifts, who were exhausted, and had families at home hoping that this dangerous job wouldn’t kill them today, when they had such a ridiculous form of negligence by refusing to add something which easily would’ve saved their lives. Physics is scary, but I rather have my blood boil and die before I even realize it than die a slow, painful death, the shit the scares me the most is radiation and prions. Shits wild.
It’s so disgusting that the company blamed the person directly responsible, indeed
@@mertondunikov1106 Ah yes, that very same person who's been stuck under the ocean at 9atm, breathing helium, and other concoction of air in order to survive the harsh working conditions of his 14 hour job he lives in at 4am . That same person- oh no yeah he definitely deserves the blame, it's not disgusting at all to blame him when his poor employers couldn't afford to use safety measures to prevent common human error. It's not like it was easy at all to implement it either, yeah it's all his fault not his employers :((((
@@lifeisadrag7705 at this point might as well start blaming the goverment, or god, or physics. Blame can always be shifted
@@mertondunikov1106 The fact that it was even possible to open both hatches at the same time is clear negligence
@@lifeisadrag7705 It was Crammond the tender who opened the clamp before the door was closed, not the diver. (The company is still at fault for not implementing a very simple and cheap safety measure, however.)
Thank goodness there's no actual photos in this video. The explanation and low poly models is all I need.
I looked at the photos dear god lord have mercy it was Bad bad. IM VERY GLAD YOU DIDNT LOOK AT THE REAL PHOTOS!
I should have listened to you@@Kkw122
Yeah it's quite bad and tbh I very surprised I'm not phased by this probably cause I just don't see it as real
Honestly the black and white pics were pretty gruesome. But not as bad as some things out there. Poor families
one of my childhood friends went on to become a deep sea construction diver, he'd disappear for 6 months and come back LOADED having been paid a huge amount and, being on an offshore rig, spending absolutely nothing (no bills, no rent, no shops), so he'd come back and buy bikes and cars and take us all out to the most expensive restaurants in town, then he'd go off diving for another 6 months. A nutter and a legend.
Sounds like he cared about his friends. A good and hardworking MAN.
@@mynameisnotrick2768 yep he's a great guy, he's settled down with a wife and kid now with a more stable job
Long live your friend
A legend and a WHAT
@@yektaagra741 LMAO
"imagine you're a deep sea welder!"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
I'm sticking to subnautica😂
I respectfully decline. 😂
The welder was standard rig crew, not part of the diving team. (If I recall the aft deck of the Byford Dolphin correctly, the welder's workshop didn't even look out onto the area for the dive spread and other equipment)
90% of the timer, his work was just regular shipyard welding work ("join this to this, so it doesn't move"), but for this he'd have been using his "gas axe" (oxy-acetylene torch) to turn the jammed and bent pressure-doors into smaller bits of movable metal, so the rig medic could get to the other divers "in the pot" to treat them if necessary. If they had not had "injuries incompatible with life", he'd have needed to get them into the "hyperbaric lifeboat" part of the dive spread, and get them emergency re-compressed to try to manage their bends.
Yes, that would have meant the off-shift life-support technician having to operate his equipment minutes after being woken up, and doing so while his colleagues are dieing in front of him. Yes, the case is discussed in life-support technician training. It's a good way of weeding out the people too soft for the job.
@@a.karley4672 damn, that sucks. I work in medicine and unfortunately it doesn't really matter how 'tough' you are. This sort of psychological damage transcends toughness. Our minds are super malleable and seeing something traumatic like this is going to affect you, no matter how much you pretend it doesn't. Stay safe everybody and enjoy life while you can
imma jus stick to gentlemen welding
First: I'll never understand cave diving either, second: How is it not criminal negligence to refrain from installing a lock that protects your workers from instant death?
I spent a week once watching a series of videos of caving gone wrong, both land and underwater (and land that became underwater), and y'all... just stay out of those things.
The concept of the corporate shield, a concept of "legal until it isn't" / "criminality cannot be retro-active", intense non-stop lobbying by businesses against every government on the planet, and the fact that MOST world-leaders are either involved with businesses themselves, or are closely integrated with others such that they have a vested interest in stopping criminal liability from moving up the corporate ladder.
Fundamentally, I agree with you. This incident should have resulted in criminal proceedings against the company itself, and several of the executives who ultimately made the call to save $ at the expense of safety. I imagine that if we stopped fining companies, and instead started arresting their executives there would be a lot more accountability and more of a push for safety and security first cultures.
because the rich have money to throw at any legal problem
Cave diving is great, don't knock it until you've tried it!
“You know, at some point, safety is just pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, ... - Stockton Rush
that autopsy report was just... I knew what to expect but it still was gruesome
Imagine what it was like for the doctors
r there pictures in it or just descriptions? sorry lol want to make sure before i click it
@@moonlit_sky127 Yes there are pictures and they are pretty gruesome
@@isoviikuna9371 thank u ! appreciate it
yeah I saw it, I was speechless.
When I saw the title of the video, I thought, “Squeeze a human through a five inch gap? That’s impossible! You would have to be folded up really tightly beforehand, and you… oh… OHH”
I thought it would only be one part of a body. At the start, they mentioned someone needing a tourniquet, so I figured that was it. Oh...oh how wrong I was.
I got recommended this video after watching something about the OceanGate inquiry (the entire carbon -fibre sub burst and ruptured causing instantaneous explosive decompression). I knew what I was getting into and still horrified.
I thought the same until my brain saw the word "dolphin" and made the connection. pressure physics are messed up bro don't fw the ocean one bit
My dumbass pictured a thing perfectly round hole with a diameter of 5 inches and I was like “this is impossible wgat on earth are they talking about”
Yeah he got extruded like pasta.
Blame overworked, exhausted employees for a horrific incident that could have been avoided by the company installing a simple and cheap safety measure. But the owners and stockholders need another couple of dollars. Yup. That tracks.
None of the important people went to jail for this or any other incident they caused. Guns don't kill people, corporate greed kills people.
@@davidbeppler3032 Spot on, sir.
@@davidbeppler3032both do, actually. Dont bring gun politics into this
@benebene9525 well, never seen a gun harm a soul without human intervention
@@davidbeppler3032guns absolutely do kill people, this isn't a "this or that" situation, both affirmations can be true.
Fact: It is literally more lethal to drive while tired, than to drive entoxicated. Now, apply this to any company that wants 12 hour shifts and you got a deathtrap.
That surely depends on the level of tiredness and drunkness ... do you have any source for that claim!?
@Puschit1 If I recall correctly, it was from a Myth Buster's episode that found that driving tired is equally as dangerous as driving tipsy. The key words being "equally" and "tipsy." Saying driving tired is "more lethan" than driving drunk is incorrect. Hope that helps 😊
Edit: I have been informed that driving tired can in fact be more lethal than driving drunk. Tho I think it's safe to say it's not good to do either. Thanks for the likes everybody 👍
Bro's a drunk driving advocate 😭😭
😂😂😂😭@@vlc-cosplayer
@@Puschit1 In a study double-checking how much sleep adults needed (it's 10 hours btw. 7-8 is a scam), they found that someone who was short 1-2 hours of sleep every day for 1 week was functioning at the same level as someone who was drunk.
So technically, the factoid (tired is more dangerous than drunk) is correct but only in this context of perpetually overworked employees.
I will never forget the way I once saw this horrible incident described; that the instant that chamber depressurized, his body stopped being biology and turned into physics
I've worked 14+ hour shifts on dry land and it took a toll on my health. I can't imagine doing it under multiple atmospheres worth of water.
When you have two shifts of divers "in the pot", there's no benefit to working them more than a 12 hour shift - for exactly the reasons you suggest.
Unfortunately, the weather generally doesn't read the weather forecast, let alone agree with it. It's not just divers in their diving bells who are restricted in the sea-conditions in which they can travel through the "splash zone" (typically about 5m below sea level to about 8m above it). Other equipment gets held up - by days some times, while "waiting on weather".
Which is one of the reasons the dive bell carries food stocks, and contains heating systems for the hot-water system that manages the diver's hypothermia. What it's like in the tropics, I dread to think ; probably they have to lower the divers back to the seabed to cool off, if the weather plays "uncooperative".
On the flip side, I imagine they spend a bigger part of the remaining 12h resting than they would if they were outside.
@@raics101 You're living in a steel cylinder 2.5m wide by 5m long. Bunk beds, a table, a TV. That's it. Going out for a walk is a 2-week long operation (one week down to surface pressure ; one week back up from it), and if your fellow dweller is trying to sleep, it's probably best to not turn the telly up. What are you going to do apart from lay on your bunk?
@@a.karley4672 Yeah, exactly, nothing to do but rest. It isn't easy but probably helps when you remember that you at least won't be stuck in traffic when the shift ends.
oh, same btw! And i work(ed) the till in retail, so nowhere as dangerous. And still, my psyche and my back and hip muscles would just give out.
Why do people blame a person's family for what they believe someone did or didn't do? His wife was innocent of this. She was nowhere near it. She suffered a loss, as well. People need to be less hateful and more empathetic to others. I know it's never going to happen but hope is still free.
the amount of hatred is driving me insane. nobody can even juxtapose it with anything good either.
You are not wrong
@@TheMookie1590 I don't remember it being this bad before. It just snuck up on me and I don't like it.
Because people will take any shot they can at others who can’t defend themselves. Its what happens when you let bots and people with bot like IQs have unrestricted access to everything on the internet
People are irrational at the best of times, let alone under stress.
I’m so tired of hearing about accidents caused by a gadget that wasn’t installed because of “Grandfathering in”. It’s bullshit! Safety regulations should apply to every project, vessel, piece of machinery, etc. Not just new projects, machines, etc.
It's so easy to imagine someone being taught that something is always installed and then switching to working on something with exceptions made that they're unaware of. I wonder if something like that happened here.
how dare you cut into profits
Another famous accident that was largely caused by the "grandfathering in" of an old structure that was not required to have a sprinkler system was The Station Nightclub Fire that occurred in West Warwick, Rhode Island in 2003. The entire incident was caught on video and various videos are here on You Tube from the incident itself to the analyses, and to some survivor testimonies. There were numerous other causes to the incident, too many to list here. The band Great White was playing that night and their pyrotechnics caught the foam on the walls on fire. 100 people died in the incident, not able to get out of the building. It was gruesome.
Exactly! And if it's too ancient to upgrade and make safe, then it should be decommissioned.
I'm machine mechanic, hence by my occupation I work with real life hazards but I yet disagree with you to some extent. No, not all safety regulations should apply to everything. It can make working absolute hell at worst, can increase worker stress etc. Don't get me wrong. There are tons and tons of equipment that should have insane amount of safety devices, but there lies the thing, that's actually fairly common these days. Risk assesment. If device can at worst give you nasty cut, well it's bit dangerous and care shold be taken handling it. If device can kill you in an instant, well that's completely different thing. I quite a bit dislike the modern "let's wrap every single device and thing in cotton, just in case someone might get paper cut". Safety "Karen's" are real deal in industries. Morons that create idiotic solutions to problems that might not even exist.
Dang, I came here expecting a video on how to squeeze a human through a five inch hole, what I DIDN'T expect was an ad for ground news, good on you!
I'm a machinist by trade and there's some seriously scary stuff that can happen to you on a lathe, maybe not sucked out of a 5 inch hole by 9 atmospheres or delta p or whatever it might be, but still. There's a horror story called the Russian lathe incident where a guy got pulled into a pretty average sized lathe and got spun hundreds of times in just a moment, his body slamming against the metal bed of the lathe over and over again at hundreds of miles an hour.. Every safety rule and regulation is written in somebody's blood. Thats why it's so important to be so cautious and respect your field.
This reminds me of the show, "I shouldn't be alive". Not that a guy violently rotated like that would, but still.
The actual image was also used as an example to raise awareness of the machinists, too.
It's a video not just a story. It was like a lawn sprinkler but with the contents of a human body,just wet red spray until there was barely anything left. The machines are built to cut solid steel,people are nothing to them.
I saw the video of that, I believe. Huge steel lathe though, longer than a human. It was unreal the way his body bent in half like a cartoon. As easily as that lathe was designed to cut steel into shape, it turned his body into flapping goo. Someone pointed out he bent over the lathe before he got caught, which is an immediate dismissal safety offense with that equipment.
@@Badficwriter I guess bigger than a human is pretty large for a lathe when you think of it. Look at me taking its size for granted out of complacency 😂 gonna end up hurt like that. The one in the video is just a bit shorter in length than the ones we have at our shop. I have a pretty small southbend at home, and honestly in my brain it doesnt even register as the same type of machine sometimes.
You got me, Joe. The most intriguing part of the video was how and *_why_* they died. I may be a freak, but at least I'm not a deep-sea diver freak.
Saturation divers are paid alot. It's still not enough lol
Imagine what kind of situation we would be in tho, if we all were too scared to do this
@@elliotalderson8358 I have mild claustrophobia, so while I appreciate their work, I wouldn't even be able to do it. I'd need a spaceship the size of a Borg Cube to even consider going into space but the bottom of the sea is just so much worse.
@@elliotalderson8358off shore oil platforms are not a requirement for oil, affordable or otherwise. I would guess(too lazy to google😅) that OVER half of the world's daily oil production is land-based, AND that this sort of work isn't required for platforms to exist....
I should be offended that you called us Deep Sea Divers freaks! But no, you’re right, we are.
Just a thought: if a single person's mistake can cost so many people their lives, then the actual blame should be on whoever set up the system. I make mistakes at work all the time, mistakes are human.
"the actual blame should be on whoever set up the system" ... which is why international companies move staff around regularly, so that the entire blame can't be pinned on *one* person or group of people.
When there is an "incident", they can "cooperate with the investigation" while continuing to move "peripherally-related" into and out of the country, and conveniently, when it's time for someone to go to jail, the relevant "someone" is in a different country, and there's an appeal about their level of culpability.
No, it's not accidental. It is a well-thought-through practice, operated for decades.
@a.karley4672 that's just dumb tho. If a company employee set up the system, then they did it in the name of the company, so the company itself should be held responsible - and because a company is a possession of humans, then those humans should be held responsible - the owners and the people who run the thing.
Imagine a world where if you own a part of a company - you're a shareholder, you're legally partially (let's say if you own 10% of the company, you get 10% of the legal consequences) responsible for the company's actions. I bet companies would start acting way more ethically overnight if the people who make money from it actually were held responsible for the way in which the money is made.
@@luxurypetscz But the system will never be designed like that, because their money influences the laws. If you have rich people, you have corrupted lawmakers.
@@a.karley4672 That's not true in many countries. Where I live, if people gets hurt or killed, it's the superior that's blamed always first. No excuses, apart if it can be proved that superior tried to make things more safe, but for some 3rd party reason it had failed. These superiors _will_ be fined by law. This included higher management too if needed.
@@jothain The only country where I can think of that applying would be Norway - where I've spent around 18 months working over the decades. Everywhere else, the SOP of the oilfield applies : money talks, and the people with the money behind them walk away from any problems and deaths they cause.
That includes the UK where I live.
Absolutely best account of this I've come across. Respectful yet specific telling of what actually happened, and no shying away from the fact that essentially the problem came down to a lack of regulation plus profit. Good Content.
In the immortal words of xkcd: They stopped being biology and became physics.
Brilliant (not the lackluster learning app)
I was going to say, at least it would have been _mercifully brief..._ like just, straight up lights out.
@@WackoMcGoose Yeah, like the Titan.
Chunky Marinara.
@kristianfagerstrom7011, except the exact opposite happened with regards to pressure. Implosion vs explosion. That poor kid...
a family friend was one of the people on deck who had to clean the mess afterwards. i remember him telling us about it, and it truly sounded horrific...
One of my cave-diving friends spent a month recovering bodies from the Piper Alpha after they'd been fish food for several months.
Not fun.
Fiddly too - forensic detail of recovery.
From everything I've read. All 4 divers in Trinidad survived being sucked into the pipeline with survivable injuries. I think one guy had a broken leg. The biggest problem was being trapped in an air bubble with no air tanks. One man miraculously made it out of the pipe. He was then immediately informed that it had been deemed too dangerous to attempt to rescue the remaining men. He tried to re-enter the pipe to rescue his co-workers but was restrained.
Basically, it was something that should've been a cautionary tale in which everyone survived. Then the company turned it into a tragedy that was 3 men slowly suffocating in a dark oil pipeline while waiting for help that was never coming.
Edit: this incident wasn't saturation diving. They were just normal technical divers.
This video has a very high sensiationalism/factual information ratio.
I think that’s a completely different incident than the one described.
@@thatman8562 it's not the topic of the video (the Byford Dolphin). He just mentioned it (Trinidad Delta-P incident) in passing toward the end.
Yeah but they died though right?
@@Rob_Reed in which case?
Byford dolphin - 5 deaths, 4 divers, and 1 tender
Trinidad - 3 deaths, all technical divers.
11:06 you misspoke or misread the original autopsy. It wasn't 10 feet, it was 10 METERS. Also it wasn't four "body bags", the report says "plastic bags." There's probably a difference. I know I'm being nitpicky but you have an audience of millions so accuracy is important.
I was a saturation diver for 6 years between 2011 & 2017 and your video is pretty accurate. I’ve been to 600 feet in Baku Azerbaijan and we took 7 days to decompress. We stayed under pressure for 28 days at the time breathing a mixture of 96% Helium & 4% Oxygen. While inside the saturation system we were getting paid 1,420$ USD per day back in 2013. We’ve all heard about this accident during our training, I’m Canadian and I’ve done my saturation diving course in Australia and worked all over the world. I still work offshore for oil and gas but I don’t dive anymore, I live in Thailand and I work for a UK based company. I’m off to Malaysia on Sunday for my next job. Glad you’ve made a video about this subject!
Thats awesome that you get paid so well and get to travel. How many jobs would you say you do per year on average? Do you have family you're away from?
@@stephenpena7813 I don't have family, but that's just me I prefer it that way... 2 to 4 jobs per year is enough
I let my curiosity click on this video because I woke up in the middle of the night and I fully regret it because I am now fully awake
Same. This is nightmare stuff. Pressures are no joke. Going into space is just 1 atmosphere difference between inside and the vacuum of space.
Here, they were dealing with 9 atmospheres of pressure.
dude same it’s fucking 3:32 am. what am i doing here
the vast?!!!???@@beepbop6697
If it was the autopsy pictures, wait until you see them in color.
You don’t see anything in the video, it can’t be that bad
excuse me, you're dealing with a 9atm pressure vessel for humans, and you chose NOT to install a thing that prevents it from accidentally decompressing due to human error. Something like this should pretty much ALWAYS fail SAFE in the event of human error and prob at least single point failure
Ya but... you know... Money....
That was my thought too.
Plus - isn't it MUCH cheaper to invest in fail-safe equipment than.. idk.. have lawsuits haunting you, live with trauma forever, traumatise and tear families apart, losing a good chunk of your most valuable employees & having to replace all the equipment that broke because safety precautions weren't taken?
Make it make sense. Money was never an excuse, it was pure neglect and laziness from the boss.
To be fair, it was a different time and now it is a safety requirement.
Well, that's why those interlocks *are* now compulsory. Safety regulations are written in blood.
@@jefism Yes there are new regulations and requirements. However our government bureaus are still THE SERVANTS of industry. Concierge to the Capital Barons.
The US Army has been sent to CRUSH labor uprisings throughout history, they act as peacekeepers only after a bloody massacre of men women and children by company gunmen...Like the Pinkertons.
Just look at Boeing. The FAA didn't restrict anything until China did. Which embarrassed the FAA to be sure.
me: “Oh the autopsy report cant be that bad!”
10 seconds later : “live leak is not even this bad”
The Funkytown vid wasn't this bad
@@K.A.Riley09No, it was. That person was writhing in pain with their face clean shaven off. At least these people were dead before they realized what had happened
@@Uncreative_Username I'm sorry I just can't with ANYTHING deep sea related at all. It's my thalassophobia. Having not seen the Funkytown vid in a while (because who the hell would actively try to watch that shit again) I just spoke without thinking. Mb gng. Maybe a more appropriate comparison would've been the Ronnie McNutt vid.
@@K.A.Riley09i dont think anything where the person is aware theyre going to die can be compared 😂. theyre all gruesome in their own way regardless
@@K.A.Riley09 Is there a safe way to watch that funky town gore video? I wanna see it but i dont wanna get a virus
My dad is a saturation diver in the North Sea. I think he started diving right around the time this happened. If you’re interested in finding out more detail about the job and another disturbing incident, I’d recommend the documentary film ‘Last Breath’. The accident in it actually took place on his ship when he was there, although he didn’t tell me that until a few years later. Also, the helium voice is very funny when they call home, especially if they’re annoyed at you about something but just sound like a happy gnome.
I got assigned to the Byford Dolphin for a couple of wells in the early 2000s (interesting work geologically, "Neptunian dykes" and fun geosteering, but "meh") and recognised the name from the distant past. So I did my research and found out about this accident. There were still people working there who had been on board for the investigation.
A year or so later, I was having lunch with a journalist friend while attending the OILC (offshore worker's trade union) conference, where we'd been discussing the continuing FAI (Fatal Accident Inquiry) into a guy who got pulled through a 5inch pipe while riding a hoist line to work under the drill floor. Then we discovered that the couple we were sharing a table with were actually the parents of the dead guy. (They were actually pleased that their son's horrible, horrible death might actually prevent the same thing happening again to someone else. Because we were discussing it, and I'd be taking the reports back out to the rigs to try to prevent the same thing happening again. Remember that ; I do.) All very disturbing. But the public record of the FAI was literally REQUIRED reading for rig safety officers for the next year. Something positive.
Less than a year later, I was attending the morning Operations planning meeting on another oil company's rig, and reading the overnight "flash reports" from other rigs in the North Sea. They'd done it *again* - the same (drilling) company, in the same country, working for a different oil company had again tried to pull a guy, slowly, backwards through a less-than body-size pipe. Fortunately, this time they had a third guy watching the under-deck operations with a radio, and the guy on the rope got a sore back and new underwear. But the company hadn't learned. Not one jot, or iota.
I don't work in the oilfield any more. But I don't hope it has improved since I left. They'll continue killing people, and re-locating the responsible managers to other countries before the law catches up with them.
But it kept down prices at the petrol pump!
@@a.karley4672 Delta-P is no joke.
@@a.karley4672 I am so glad you're not working in the oilfield anymore, that sounds horrible
@@Aphelia. I'm not glad I'm not working in the oilfield. While it was definitely dangerous, it was also fun.
Me: Ah, so this is where that dolphin and a scientist researcher lady got a little frisky and-----
Joe: A man was horrificly squeezed through the doorway and turned into human bacon, and there was a cover-up
what cover up? we don't know what happened, because pretty much everyone involved died.
@@witchdoctor6502
The company that was responsible for operating the diving bell (and upgrading it) *chose* not to do so, and when things went sideways and fatalities resulted, they essentially blamed one guy. It took a lawsuit **twenty-five years** later for the whole story to be told. *THAT* cover-up.
@@waynewright5023 You guys have the same pfp, and both have numbers at the end of your names, I thought you asked the question, then answered. 😆
Covered in BACON! rip..
@@witchdoctor6502 almost as if things dont STAY covered up sometimes
The story of those men who got sucked into and trapped within an oil pipeline is the stuff of nightmares. Pitch black, panicking, hundreds of feet under water, fighting claustrophobia... and on top of it all, they didn't know whether to move forward or go back due to being ragdolled into the pipe and totally disorientated 😢
ah yes, the Paria Diving Disaster. The audio at the end is shocking
Horrific
@@groovertube The video of them just vanishing down a hole in the floor like a flushing toilet is even more so.
12:05 "The idea that 1 second youre there and one second youre.. everywhere?" Is crazy 😭
This is the reverse of OceanGate in many ways, but ends with the same lesson- the regulations and safety equipment are there for very good reasons, and the cost of ignoring them is too high.
👆💯
OceanGate was an implosion, this was explosive decompression. Same horrific, solid-biologic-structures-turned-to-liquid kind of deaths, just different means of sudden physics.
Seems the cost was quite minimal for the company at least.
The difference is that this equipment was safe to operate so long as you followed the procedures and checklist, failure of which led to the accident. With OceanGate the equipment was a flawed POS design from the get-go, and the operator thought he was smarter than the experienced guys he fired for telling him he was taking needless risks.
@@RCAvhstape I bet the Comex company had at least one guy telling them that *not* installing the failsafe was a needless risk, though.
For those with sick minds (and strong stomachs) the Byford Dolphin "Scene Analysis" photos are out there, I've seen them on reddit, but I'm sure they are easily found via google, *_and they are every bit as bad as our host warns._* In fact, due to the 1980s camera tech, they look like classic slasher movie stills. Leatherface meets Texas Chainsaw, but on an offshore dive rig.
And yes.... there is a photo of of Hellevik's entire face, shorn clean off his skull, and just sort of lying there... There's also a photo of his torso, blasted open and emptied of organs (save for a scrap of trachea and a small dangle of bowel), and the worst photo IMHO, is the 6 or 7 vertibre and spinal cord which were blasted out and just lying on the deck, kind of like a chewed up dog bone... Its pretty bad. I was an EMT and saw some grizzly stuff, but this is next level "human in a blender" stuff you only see in war. Like, the only other way to see injuries THIS profound is to see dead combatants who have taken direct hits by artillery, rockets, or bombs. Damn....
I have enormous respect for emts, I know the tool that the job can take on them. Thank you for the work you did to help your fellow man.
Utmost thanks from all of humanity for serving as an EMT! We should thank first responders for serving as well! Thank you.
I had to stop reading your post, it really got to be too much. But if someone can't read that, they definitely shouldn't look it up, so viewer beware.
I was curious if they had photos, but I definitely can’t handle those kind of shots. I have the morbid curiosity to want to glance at the scene from afar to get an idea of what it looked like, but knowing there’s pictures of all THAT- no way.
There is also the image of what remained of his body, in a state of really rough reconstruction. God it's disgusting.
The way I thought this was Somehow going to be about a dolphin attack because I didn't know what a Byford Dolphin was 😭
Same 😬
I did too first time I heard about it on Wendigoon's channel 😂
I mean, the thumbnail is pretty vague.
I know this comment will get lost and I usually don’t bother to leave them at all, but you’re a natural reporter. Your tone, cadence, and writing is so easy to understand and exciting to watch, and your energy is calm and comforting despite covering grisly topics. You’ve got a new sub here, keep it up, this is totally your niche.
11:38 First time i've heard the term "defleshed". Not sure I want to hear it again.
I read this comment as he said it 😂😭😭
Sounds like something out of Hellraiser.
Fingers get defleshed, oh no I'm thinking of "De-gloved" lol enjoy.
It’s awful
In my industry we call it “degloved”
Oh my gosh. Just the illustration of the man’s body going through the 5 inch opening was horrible enough. Joe, your expressions while telling this story are priceless.
I dislike the logic of "at least we can learn from these horrific incidents." These incidents were caused by poor work practices of overworking and greed by a company that didn't want to shell out the extra money. In real time, right now, right this very second, some airplane companies are trying to move over to a one pilot system. We KNOW that one is not enough, but the people in charge want to wait until enough people die before they pull back and change their minds. Then what? Well, here you'll be saying, "at least we can learn our lesson from this awful experience"
Great video, definitely going to watch more content.
it is so sad to see how we're going backwards again. it feels like safety standards were improved massively because of the sheer amount of accidents that occured when we first started getting access to machines that could kill us in moments. and now things are getting a little too safe, so corporates are getting complacent and finding ways to wipe away these rules that were written in blood.
"Safety rules are written in blood" or something along those lines
I love this comment. Sometimes there is no silver lining. And it took 25 years for a coalition of citizens to finally succeed in holding the company somewhat accountable. I don’t even know if lawmaking got changed to stop grandfathering in rigs that don’t have up-to-date safety measures. It’s honestly a cautionary tale to not wait until the next accident is too horrific and senseless to stomach before we hold companies’ feet to the fire.
they knew it could happen, they let it happen, and they will let it happen again
you are right, but unfortunately media coverage and general interest isn't that high when its just potentially dangerous. On the other hand regulation lawmakers need to step in in such cases, but as the lobbying for more than 8h shifts suggests the system is rather corrupt sometimes (but hopefully not often)
11:07 This part’s actually wrong, and much worse. This body part was found 10 METERS above the chambers, which is 32 feet
Remember: an employee can never be at fault for a corporate disaster. No matter what, it will always be the corporation's fault since they control every process from work to safety.
Well i wouldn't say 'never'. If a worker did it on purpose, then that would be very much their fault. But being overworked or having crappy safety mechanisms is absolute not the workers fault.
Or if the dockworkers union on the east coast gets their anti-automation pieces of the contract, I think the union should be the one paying for any worker injuries or deaths that occur which would have been eliminated by automation.
Yeah that sort of absolute statement is always wrong. If an employee doesn't adhere to standards set by the corporation and as a result of that caused the accident, the corporation can't be said to be at fault.
@@gownerjonesyou need a minor adjustment for when corporation say they set a standard but encourage the opposite
@@DustinRodriguez1_0 no, there's no precedent for that. Neither party can be held liable for not taking actions they "could" have taken. Otherwise you could argue that anything is the companies fault, because there's always a way to make things safer. There is an acceptable ratio of efficiency and safety, but you can't expect every party to take every measure possible and then blame them if they don't.
they negotiate contract terms every 6 years. This year they included that ai/automation will not replace or displace certain jobs. If the company was comfortable with the way things are currently, (and they are, because they have been doing so) then the company assumes fault regardless of automation or not.
@15:35 You have to do a video on that story about the divers sucked into the pipe. I'm warning anyone who is claustrophobic: you may get some significant anxiety hearing it. And the last I heard, the company is still not owning up to responsibility, nor are they doing anything for the families of the dead men.
I saw the mr ballen video on that incident. I had to stop a couple times and go outside
Claustrophobe here: that story fucked me up.
Delta p was the reason
@@ashtonrouse5638 hey do you have the title of that vid?
@@carrotsnail The Caribbean Disaster
i can’t stomach gore but i honestly had no problem looking at the autopsy report because my brain can’t even register that his remains were a person
Thank god these pictures were taken older cause if they were newer with color and depth, i would be vomiting, They are still human these pictures of organs and tissues are inside us, Extremely grossed me and i my hearts go out to these people.
@@stor-2199are they really bad???
@@That1cl0setpers0nI personally wouldn’t say the image is awful but thats because you can barely tell whats there. It’s discolored, no blood, and mangled to the point you can’t tell whats going on.
@@scat1544 Yeah
But the face...
the autopsy report is genuinely fucking terrifying omg
the morbid curiosity i had to click this video is probably why i've seen too much
Same
i commented the same thing! lol
Same 😮
Nah, that's entirely unrelated. 😂
liveleak?
what gets me is how the families must feel, knowing how their loved ones died so horrifically. and then being reminded of it repeatedly by the morbid fascination the internet has about it.
"Delta P grabs you suddenly, and it doesn't let you go until the pressure is equalized. When it's got ya, it's gotcha."
classic video
And by the time it let goes, you already a human paste.
Classic Video
Also, "the cook always survives"...
went into this thinking dolphins may have somehow been responsible for the incident. while I'm glad this is not the case...this is horrifying
Ill describe the images from the autopsy report for anyone that is curious but doesn't want to see:
The main image is of diver 4's remains: one leg, severed and fractured in many places; the remains of a pelvis (more mush than bone); thoracic cavity, organs missing; spinal column, more closely resembles a drumstick; both shoulders, destroyed; both arms, fractured and destroyed in many places; one hand, disjointed and broken; and a mass of flesh where the skull should be.
There are photos of the other 3 divers, naked and intact. The photos are black wnd white, so its a bit hard to tell whats going on. One has a particularly grizzly expression.
The soft tissues of diver 4's face somehow survived, however they were detached from his skull. It is recognizable as a face, with the mouth, nose, one eye, and eyebrow preserved. I think this is the worst image.
An open eyeball, with a bursa under the cornea.
A thoracic cavity thats hard to determine much of what is going on.
A spinal column, isolated from anything else.
The external view of the ribcage of diver one
Pleural bursas,
A stomach,
Cardiac chamber with free fat deposits.
Microscopy of the liver, bones, cerebral vessels.
And lastly, gas bubbles visible in cerebral vessels.
Also, the autopsy report is an interesting read if you are medically inclined. If you are desensitized to gore and brutal body horror, the report is worth a read. There are colorized images on google of diver 4's remains, which is kinda brutal. Regardless, the speed with which their blood and organs boiled and the speed with which diver 4 was fragmented likely means they felt nothing.
Also, the report states that the fat deposits are likely due to the boiling blood crashing lipids out of solution, which is awful.
Thank you so much! But man I'm more curious now... but I don't want to risk my sanity
Cheers g, saved me a google
WELP, my curiosity is sated. Don't need to go looking for those, nope 😅 thanks for the horrifying but very informative description, lmao
Report comes back as 404 error now
Thank you for this. It's good to know what you are looking at ahead of time. Otherwise you just get a jumbled mess that takes your mind a bit to sort out.
I'm stopping a third of the way into the video just to mention that these are the best, most understandable visuals I've ever seen in a video about this incident. Never had I imagined they had to CRAWL through that opening.
Thank you for not including photos, I was NOT prepared for this, despite what the title, warnings, and thumbnail shows
Photos of this would definitely result in a YT takedown, so...
Lol
@Thurgosh_OG (I mean technically they could be considered educational)
I’m usually fine about hearing about these things but visually? Best left to imagination.
Too many youtubers show partial pictures without doing the proper care to actually make it bearable. Don't get me started on the times I've seen abhorrent shite because of only a 3 second warning to skip ahead
This incident makes me realize our bodies could fall apart at any second
11:11 the report says they found body parts ten METERS above the chamber. Not 10 feet
Americans lol
@@touchme7018it happened in Europe…
@@touchme7018we know meters, we just don’t know kilometers
That's even more terrifying
oh fuck
16:10 correction: The UK has not switched from Pounds to Euros.
He may have meant that the company switched to paying the salaries in Euros? Norway is not using the Euro either, so this remark puzzled me, too.
Uh... yeah. Yeah, that sounds more intelligent than what I said, let's go with it. 😄
Norway has not switched to using the Euro, they still use the Norwegian Kroner.
Just Because Norway and the UK are in Europe, Doesn't mean we both fully joined the ERM in 1991. (or stayed in it)
@@5nowChain5 Both of those countries are not in the EU either.
Dirty dirty euros
There are photos and video of this event out there on the internet. I have seen them, as part of safety training on work under pressure as a pipe fitter, and I STRONGLY suggest that you do not go looking for those pictures. Those pictures coupled with the detailed story of how this specific disaster happened gave me nightmares for the entire time I worked at that job.
I was not a saturation diver, but did sometimes work in caissons, which is a less high pressure condition, but it's a matter of degree more than anything.
Just don't go looking for it. You don't want to know, you don't want those images floating in the darkness late at night while you try to get to sleep. You just don't.
one of the few times the Streisand Effect did not work on me, thank you.
Can't have images floating around my head if I can't see them (aphantaisa)
Seriously though,
*Don't look it up.*
I studied this incident as part of my commercial diving course. I have to agree.
Do not look up the photos.
Sounds like you got mild PTSD.
@@lilyw.719 mild yet justified
Damn Joe! Of all the youtube videos I've seen covering this tragedy, yours was by far the most informative, illustrative, and best put together! Thank you. Kudos for your efforts, new subscriber here 👏🏽🫡
Thanks a lot for not putting pictures in the video honestly. Can't count the times my curiosity has gotten me traumatized.
now I can sleep knowing they all died painlessly and TBH I don't think it's anywhere near how bad life can get. this is one of the nicest deaths for the people, but traumatizing for the bystanders.
reminds me of ironlung.
the real horrifying part of this is the awful working condition, and what pushed these people to take them.
it still boggles my mind that human beings can function for days upon days at a pressure of about 20 atmospheres. and then on top of that, they're not even breathing a normal earth atmosphere.
we have myths about the cockroach being able to survive incredible conditions, but really, that is pretty darn incredible.
Too bad we can't survive being extruded.
Your last line...😂
We're tough but not extrusion tough
in the immortal words of someone on tumblr; "the human body is incredible, right now i could do 50% of a backflip and break my neck if i wanted to"
6:04
“I hope that gave you a smile”
I nodded with a dead expression.
“Because the rest of this video is horrifying.”
I smiled.
0:10 "Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly...."
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes.
Happy Birthday John Lennon
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@@joempoem478aww man you beat me to it
@@ErdrickHerowhat is this referenceing
"I hope that gave you a smile because the rest of this video is horrifying" - Joe 2024
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Debate tonight!
Was he talking about his choice of hairstyles?
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"They were pushed into working longer and longer shifts" it always comes to that when some kind of machinery causes horrible deaths :(
10:45 I felt this terrifying cold goosebumps like feeling all around my abdomen watching this part
Oh dear. I clicked in this to be educated, i didn't actually realize how bad the incident was 😬 and now that knowledge lives in my brain! Thank you for not including any pictures.
BIG-ish CORRECTION: Trimix shouldn't/isn't be used below 120'-160' (~36m, even less depending on some people) as it causes nitrogen narcosis. Instead, usually only helium and oxygen are used (and sometimes other inert gases are added like argon, but that can have it's own narcotic effect) at depth and in saturation driving. In this case, it was oxygen and helium only. Not sure how the writer(s) missed that multiple times.
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True, and the amount of oxygen is reduced to minimize the partial pressure problems of 20% oxygen at 9 atmospheres. Oxygen toxicity is almost never talked about.
And also recently, hydrogen and oxygen! Crazy shiz.
Correction? are you a jackal 🤔
I hope they conserve the heck out of that helium. Until we have sources from space what we have from that which we’ve found trapped with natural gas is all we’ve got for millions of years.
@@EarthIsNotFlat Helium reclaim is common these days.
Things like this and the Oceangate thing have brought me to a favorite new phrase. "At some point, you stop being biology and start being physics."
Accurate.
This quote originally came from Randall Munroe's What If #141: Sunbeam.
@@minetrulyAnd was used in a description of the hypothetical consequences of the Sun's entire energy output concentrated with a laser beam.
one of the most incredible cases of corporate greed i have never heard of until now, wow thx for sharing
What I love about Joe is that he's able to take these honestly horrendous stories and present them in a way that plebians like me can digest without puking.
"I hope that gave you a smile because... the rest of this video is horrifying."
He delivers lines like this with such perfect precision, eases us into this stuff with such skill and grace. In an alternate timeline I hope Professor Scott teaches generations of young, hopeful college students the potential horrors of reality in a way that prepares them to *not* cause anything like this to happen.
17:17 To be fair even though it’s a 1in7 chance of dying on the job, compared to dying in any other way. Its literally instantaneous. And you make a lot of money, some people will take that risk any day
My grandfather was on a submarine crew during the cold war, and worked with lot of experimental deep dive projects, including Trieste.
He told me a story about investigating the mysterious death of diver for no apparent reason.
They ended up determining it to be basically dying from exposure. The bottom of the ocean, as it turns out, is cold. You didn't mention this, but turns out it SUPER important to not dying - Helium at 20 atmospheres is an INCREIDIBLY good thermal conductor (like 10x as good as air under normal conditions, multiplied by the pressure). So the guy basically died from exposure just from BREATHING HelOx slightly too cold.
Interesting, thanks for that context.
Far colder than outer space. In space the real problem is waste heat management. Not the cold.
@@davidbeppler3032 Pure vacuum is a fairly good thermal insulator. I don't think it is really the temperature, but how fast thermal energy can move through a material.
@@kenashworth7672 I said that.
It's fairly normal even in sports diving if you're diving a mix with significant helium in it to use a separate air cylinder for drysuit inflation just becuase of the thermal properties of helium.
When it comes to safety regulations, something my father always told me about them sticks with me. “The path to improvement is paid with blood.” Our current safety measures aren’t here because of vigilance, but tragedy.
We were just discussing this, after watching Wakanda Forever. The sea people should have basically exploded when they surfaced... Would have been a much shorter movie
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So you're one of the few then?
Dolphins and whales manage it.
You're speaking of critters that are specialized with soft, airy tissues. Animals that go up and down have thick bodies, like Greenland sharks and sperm whales. The Marvel Atlanteans are notoriously thick and superstrong.
The reason I know about the Byford Dolphin because it was actually docked near where I grew up. This was fairly normal so I was used to seeing massive oil rigs docked.
What made this different was my dad and I were walking and we stopped to look at it. That's when my dad told me about it in quite a lot of detail...I was like 9 at the time.
Didn't sleep for a week, thanks dad!
Invergordon, or Dundee?
Driving between Aberdeen and England past the burned-out wreck of the Ocean Odyssey in Dundee harbour for several years was ... thought provoking.
At least they re-routed helicopter traffic away from the stump of the Piper after the Odyssey. I always found flying to work over that unsettling .
Reminds me of something an old Chief told me back in the day. "Safety rules are written in blood." Something he would say whenever us new guys were rolling our eyes through our safety briefing powerpoints. As per usual, the elders knew the way and us young guys just thought we knew better. Some things never change.
Youre such a real one for linking the autopsy, unfortunately I was impatient and found it earlier…
Working underwater is weird. I’ve only done offshore diving down to 50 meters. Welding and you might get electrocuted, working on pipes and delta p might get you, hoisting structures with airbags and topside cranes and stuff can squish you, oxy-arc cutting and you need to be careful that gas is not building up somewhere because that stuff explodes, salvage diving in shipwrecks and you need to be aware of the air pockets that can shift and start to spin whatever you’re inside around (the air you breath out adds to this problem), strong underwater currents smash you into hard places, strange animals try to bite you, $20,000 dive helmet can fail and while you can still struggle to breath in your helmet that is full of ocean you have to do decompression stops, equipment failure and human error can cut of your air-supply, air tools will make your ears itch like there is no tomorrow, you can rupture your ear drums going down AND coming up, you can follow every decompression table known to man but certain activities and/or environments can still give you tiny decompression sickness (usually just joint pain and itchy skin but you can be unlucky), working on ship propellers can be a nice gig but divers have been chopped up by them, you can get so cold that you’ll feel cold for a couple of days, there are no bathrooms in a drysuit and peeing in it will only give you a minute of warmth. Oh, yeah and you’re spot on about visibility. As soon as you start working there is none, I usually just ask topside to turn of my light because it isn’t doing me any favors. The comms are horrible too. We can get crystal clear comms with someone in space, but go down 50 meters and you’re on some proto-radio. I switched careers and haven’t worked underwater for at least 4 years, but I miss it every almost every day.
i hope you don't mind me asking: why do you miss it, given the EVERYTHING you just said? 😅
@@youtubeisbadprobably because humans love exciting and dangerous stuff as long as we survive it.
And those are just the perks.
Better have a healthy supportive partner back home. If you're distracted w some drama bs ... might not be coming home.
And for that reason.... I'm out ! Oh, and also the adhd 😅
Thanks, this was illuminating.
@@youtubeisbadif you don't mind my asking: why do you still use UA-cam, given your username?
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Dude. I'm eating lunch right now. Wtf
I know Jerry. It's diabolical.
Go and research the actual pics while eating steak tartare.
The why look at / read about something that is obviously going to be horrifically gruesome while you are eating your lunch?
I feel you
The new ipad pro would have saved that guy if he had it at that time. It survived your bend test. Itll survive this as well! Also rip ur lunch XD
I remember a quote that goes something like "Rules are written in blood." This story is one of many that proves that point.
This tells us more about greedy companies than about biology and physics.
I can't fathom how nerve-wracking it must be to be under that pressure above water and conduct transfers.
nice. I sea what you did there.
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18:07 welding specifically can’t always be done by robots it’s just something that needs a human to do unfortunately. they can use welding robots for some stuff tho
I don’t know much about welding so is there a specific reason? If it’s just precision my first thought was the robots for surgery. It’s not an autonomous robot but a robot controlled by a surgeon to help with precision, it’s pretty cool and again I don’t know anything about welding let alone undersea welding but wouldn’t it be theoretically possible for something similar to be constructed for welding?
@@mikeycallihan3551welder here. I work in a stainless steel shop, we only use them for straight line welds controlled by people, and even those mess up quite often. But even at the bigger shops I have been to, they only do straight lines controlled by people, just mess up less.
No idea why they cant be utilized better though.
16:00 nope we still use pounds, unless British saturation divers working for off-shore companies are paid in euros for whatever reason.
Seeing as they were talking about Norwegian safety laws I'm pretty sure we are talking about an eu company... so yeah, Euros.
@@leechowning2712Norway uses Kroner, not Euros
@@leechowning2712 he was talking about what the british divers were paid
@@leechowning2712 No. Norway uses the Norwegian Kroner (NOK), not the Euro. In fact, the Euro was more widely accepted in the UK than in Norway, the last time I worked in Norway.
Norway is a member of the EFTA - European Free Trade Association - not the EU. It is subject to EU regulations in regard of equipment and services, but does not get to vote on them. However, it is not subject to European business and social legislation - they do not want to lower themselves to European standards.
I bet that raised a lot of discussion in Sweden when they were considering joining the EU.
Comex - the diving company, are American, so probably paid people in dollars.
@@itxi Depends totally on the choices of the company they worked for, and nothing on the nationality of the worker.
A lot of people don't realize, OSHA is written in blood. This didn't happen in America, but it still affects how we work.
It never ceases to amaze how horrifying this is
I don't understand what's horrifying about it.
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There are pills for that i'm sure.
@@nullcypher Agreed. Nothing horrifying about it at all. 4 people died without pain, 1 with a lot of pain, and one survived. What we do to prisoners in America is far worse and nobody cares about that at all.
@@budgiefriend Yes, it seems like you took them all.
@@nullcypher i agree, they didn't suffer! it sounds like a pretty gruesome scene, but every armed conflict ever has more gruosome stuff happen on the daily
The chair spin is back again.
*wipes a tear away*
It's beautiful.
How to squeeze a human being through a five inch hole.
Moms all around the world: hold my beer.
Imagine if women gave birth to full grown men 🤣🤣
she better not be drinking beer if she havin a baby
Cats: Hold my Milk
@@mr_pigman1013she’s making them hold their beer for 9 months tho
And my dad bears the responsibility of teaching divers this. Information that saves these divers life. My dad is awesome
11:28 For those with the same morbid curiosity as me. Before you look at the incident report, yes there are 4 pictures with the content of each of the 4 body bags and yes there is a picture of his face (just the skin of his face).
You have been warned.
I was not going to look. Now I stand affirmed in that decision. Thank you.
Oh is it just the body bags? I thought it was gonna be of the incident itself
@@Wolfie54545 My curiosity stopped after the open body bags, so maybe one could find other pictures, but it won't be me haha.
The pictures are black and white, makes it a little bit easier to look.
Oh dear.
6:16 never heard of the last name coward, and crazy that the one person I now know of with that name has probably one of the bravest jobs lol
Well how else do you prove people's perception of you from your name wrong?
He just had to pick one of the most badass (worst ass?) jobs there are to prove a point.
@@andreasu.3546yup there is an experiment for that, I think they named their kid stupid and smart or something to see if it can affect something in their life and it did, you'll be amazed how name can impact day to day, crazy how the parent named their kid coward it's horrible.
Every time I hear this story this goes through my mind.
i'm from trinidad. when I saw this title and begining of the video i thought you was gonna cover the trinidad incident, i'm glad it got a mention. at the time when it happened everyone was horrified by the news. it took days to recover them
Thank you. Easy to follow tutorial.
"Just think about one second your there then one second your everywhere" Thanks Joe
More like next millisecond