This is exactly what makes Stellar Blade truly amazing. So many people say Stellar Blade has no story, which is totally not the case. I will admit that its delivery was a bit clumsy, but everything you need to build an entire new worldview and IP is there. There is so much potential with this to include even a prologue where you can experience the Wars before the final war.
@@unlistednaytibathank you, Perfect narrative explained behind Stellar Blade's story ♥️. And thank you for putting my thoughts of the game now in a more broad understanding of the story behind Stellar Blade.
Glad someone is talking about the lore of this game. Feels like nobody even realizes this game released? What a shame because this was such a fun experience. I'm on my 4th playthrough already. I rarely play any game more than 2 times, but there is something special about this one. Anyone else think that Raven was basically a anime girl version of Lillith? - "First wife (Angel aka Andros Eidos) of Adam" - "Primordial she-demon" (Unidentified Naytiba form) - Banished from the Garden of Eden (Nest) for not complying with and obeying Adam. Also, anyone who doesn't think Mother Sphere is the villain of this story clearly didn't pay close enough attention. I mean there's so many memory sticks and little tidbits sprinkled throughout the game, that reaffirm that Mother Sphere is not the character to be rooting for. For example, if you read Providence's character bio, it states that Mother Sphere designed that new exosuit without any regard for protecting the wearer's body. Mother Sphere may not have malicious intent, but it's clear it has no empathy, and is fine with literal genocide, as long as her goals are reached. It's a AI murderbot that has lost all restrictions on the "human evolution" programming. The perfect villain for Eve too since Eve also keeps Evolving and defying Mother Sphere's expectations. This in turn most likely just peaks Mother Sphere's interest more and will make Mother Sphere keep raising the stakes until Mother Sphere wins or is destroyed. We got a perfect, "unstoppable force meets immovable object" scenario lined up for the sequel, and I'm here for it. I'm dying for more lore about The Colony and Mother Sphere. Seeing the remains of the Colony in the [Return to the Colony] ending, had me so freaking hyped. Would love a flashback showing when Mother Sphere dropped the Colony onto Earth. That would be wild to see firsthand. Hope this game gets a sequel so I can enjoy more of this fascinating albeit dystopian reality they've created. Thank you for being the only person to properly explore the lore of this game! *_~May your memories live on, forever~_*
What I find interestingly is that Mother Sphere wants to create humans better than what nature could, but when it comes to creating the Airborn members she uses flesh that contains no human DNA whatsoever. Did she find humans so inherently flawed that it was in our DNA so she decided to make new ones “entirely from scratch”? I wonder what is her true end goal of human evolution. How much more advanced can the technology inside the Angels get?
Great comment. I am appreciating your ideas about Raven. Yes Mother Sphere is messed up. There are hints in the game about how AI work. The RAFFY AI of the human liberation front expresses some pretty messed up reasoning, so it's safe to say that Mother Sphere reasons in the same way. However, I do believe Raphael Marks programmed some back door fail safe to get around Mother Sphere if she ever went crazy. I think the EVE protocol is that failsafe, but still trying to fully understand it myself. And yea, when I read the description about the Providence, I was laughing to myself at how messed up that was. It would also be great to see the use of flashbacks explored more in future games in this franchise. They kinda explored it with flashback pictures in cutscenes. They definitely got to get up to the colony in future games too. That thing is so freaking big. Mother Sphere is probably up to all kinds of things on the colony.
I believe all of what covers the skinsuit of an Angel is the nanotech - even the blood. The blood and bones are there simply to trick the Andro-Eidos and Angels into making them think they are organic human beings that achieved singularity with machines (what Lily says through the drone when you're in Abyss Levoire).
@@unlistednaytiba The failsafe thing is a really neat idea for the sequel. My head cannon is that during the final confrontation with Mother Sphere, she has us cornered. At the last second, Adam (who we thought was completely absorbed by EVE, but in a surprise twist turns out to be able to manifest as some sort of conscience within her) activates a failsafe protocol, to give us the upper hand to defeat Mother Sphere. Hope something like that happens. Adam is such a massively pivotal character to the world of Stellar Blade that it would be a shame to not have Adam return in some form for the sequel.
I loved Eve's character development throughout the game. I think Raven corrupted Tachy to try to force feelings of despair and revenge on Eve so she would become unworthy to Adam. There's that scene where Eve rage that she wants to make the unidentified Naytiba pay and Adam comments about "a mistake that can't be made twice".
OMG, I was including that scene in my video but decided to take it out cause it was getting too bloated with hitting my point home - you're talking about the scene right after they come up to Xion from the presence chamber (after Tachy dies). Yes Adam doesn't want EVE to go down the same path of rage and revenge that Raven went down. Really cool you saw that.
I like the duality of the 3 endings. Follow your programming to destroy the Naytiba, Lose your humanity and become like Raven, or become the bridge to oppose Mother Sphere.
Yes definitely. The whole EVE name on Raven's "cape" has thrown me off though. Makes me think Raphael and Mother Sphere somehow are aware of each other's plans.
I am so lucky to have subscribed to your channel. Thank you for wrapping up the story so nicely. You said exactly what I needed to hear and also wanted to say the same thing while playing this amazing game of the century. What is human? What make us, us? We are just a living organism that interprets light and/or touching information to electric pulses and seding it to the brain so it can be processed the information. What makes us different than the machines or AIs if that's the case? By interacting with the Xion characters and reading the books throughout the game, I realized that I can't see the clear line between the human and Andro-Eidos beings. So it was only natural that I had to choose to become one with Adam after at the end of 182 hours of first time play through. Great game.
Really really appreciate your comment. This is very motivating and nice to hear. I really appreciate it. I do think part of the design of this game is to blur the line between organic humans and andro-eidos so that we look to non-literal things to determine if EVE or other characters are "human." Glad you enjoyed the game. You got the platinum then ya? 182 hours is legit :)
This is one of my most anticipated videos and indeed you delivered it beautifully. One thing I would love to hear more in the sequels is Raphael and MS history.
I really appreciate your comment. I agree with you. think sequels should definitely keep Mother Sphere as the antagonist and explore the use of flashbacks more.
Thank you for diving into this. Like dragons dogma 2 right now there is little conversation on such good lore building. im lore crafting and all of this dedication is very appreciated. This story deserves to be really spread out and explored over the span of a series with the endings teasing something to continue
Wow your comment is much appreciated. Yes, I am really hoping for a franchise being started here with EVE and Stellar Blade. Great potential. Looking forward to what the big announcement from Shift Up is going to be this week.
Hate, desire for revenge, envy are often viewed as inhuman. But they are an essentiel part of humanity as their opposites are. By fusing only with Eve, there will be something necessary lacking, that only Raven could have provided.
The biggest questions I still ponder are why humanity needs to evolve under such harsh conditions & why EVE needs to be tested as a bridge between two species? More importantly, why is the Colony so massive? The enviro-pods that the Colony dropped seem so inconsequential in the grand scope of things, and when EVE & Lily behold the Colony's true size, it seems unrecognizable from their perspective. I get the feeling that something else looms on the horizon, and Mother Sphere recognizes that entity as a threat that even her Angels cannot handle without evolution.
I think it's mostly due to MS being an artificial Super Intelligence, so her measures are all quite extreme. IN terms of the Colony, yes it does appear to be massive. It would be great to explore the Colony in potential sequels. Shift Up could get pretty creative with the environments they create in the Colony.
I want to personally thank you for this video. Although I already figured out most of it, you did stitch together some points I was a little iffy about. I'm currently on my first NG+ play through. I'm not particularly good at the game, but I am enjoying it immensely. This video will add significantly to that enjoyment. I truly mean it when I say... I owe you big time sir! Subscribed!
Heck yea. Your comment is much appreciated. I'm sure by now you completed your NG+. Hope you enjoyed the different endings. Have a good one, and again, I appreciate this comment immensely, as well as the sub.
Enjoy your videos. The story is layered and fleshed out throughout the world. Something that seems to have been lost on many UA-camrs/reviewers. I found it refreshing that the script wasn’t stuffed with “marvel humour”. Eve is essentially a weapon, a terminator, and through her interactions with Adam, Lily and the people of Xion gains her humanity through the kindness she shows. If the fuse ending is to be the canon ending I am interested to see how her character will further develop in a sequel.
I agree - she is basically a terminator. I do like the way the Shift Up team developed her as a character, and I don't think she was ever supposed to develop beyond what she did in the game, partly due to your point in that she is a weapon. In terms of the ending, I actually also really like the return to colony ending as it opens up the opportunity for the sequel to take place on the Colony and to confront MS. But the upgraded EVE version also works quite well. Curious to see what Shift Up decides.
I was so stoned playing this game that I only realised their names when Adam asked for your hand. All these religious references, man this game is beyond awesome. Its worldbuilding, the characters, everything was on point
PPS: at the end, Mother Sphere mentions (not a spoiler) - her first words are “starlight - twinkling off satellites” which is an encapsulation of the idea of the organic (starlight) reflecting off the created machine (satellites). Organic vs non-organic. A poetic theme - I think people may have missed a lot because of the way the information was given (through the memory sticks which most people didn’t read). For the next game, they hopefully will weave that in with characters you interact with.
Yeah it is :) And I agree with you... hopefully the next game will include more story and relationship building through the cutscenes or dialogue. The lore in the items and documents are always great, but hopefully with a bigger budget we can get more story delivered in the aforementioned avenues of cutscenes or dialogue.
Few corrections. - Not all angels are Eves. Every airborne squad has 1 Eve. Raven wasn’t an Eve in her squad. This is why Raven targets Eve instead of Tachy at the start of the game. Digger uses the term “Angel of the Eve Airborne Squad” and Eve responds by saying “I’m Eve”. This implies that Eve is special in a way. - A lot of people are missing the point when Adam says Eve Protocol was created by the surviving humans. I think Eve Protocol was something Raphael Marks (Adam) inserted into Mother Sphere’s code during the first war. This protocol was to ensure the survival of humanity without Mother Sphere suspecting it. This is further supported by the fact that Mother Sphere says “This concludes Eve Protocol, but the result is disappointing”. This protocol made the Mother Sphere continuously send Eve Airborne Squads to earth thinking that it was to eliminate the Elder, but its underlying purpose is to ensure humanity’s survival. When I use the word ‘humans’, I’m not referring to ‘Andro-Eidos’. I’m referring to humans who eventually turned into Naytibas.
Yes, I've recently thought that Mother Sphere and Raphael marks both know a bit more about each other's plans than was let on. And yes I agree there is one EVE per wave. I thought this because I realized after making this video that Raven's "cape" says EVE on it, so I was kinda curious why this is. There is the potential for an EVE protocol with each wave.
Wait wait wait, cause I’ve had this question since day one and it might be a dumb question but why is Eve named Eve? Like Mother Sphere created the Eve Protocol decades prior to Eve and Tachy’s 7th Airborne Squad being sent out to find the Elder so like why was she specifically given the namesake of the entire mission that existed way before her? Was it somehow known that she was going to be special and go on the journey that she does or was it just pure coincidence that she happens to have the same name as the mission she’s on? Like theoretically speaking could that first dive have gone a way where the entire squad including Eve died but Tachy survived and she becomes the protagonist of the game? Like was there actually anything special about Eve or was she just the one that survived and happened to have that name?
This is the video that I was waiting for. On a grander scale, Mother Sphere is the manipulative one. It didn't just try to replace humanity's future, but its entirety as well. Our history, faith, myths, culture are all being systematically replaced by Mother Sphere. In the good ending, Adam said so himself. Taking his hand will not solve all problems, but what he is gunning for is a fighting chance for us to regain humanity.
I don't think that Raven thought that Adam was using her, as she didn't showcase any resentment towards him in her dialogue. Notice how when she confronts EVE in her Angel form, she very angrily talks about Mother Sphere deceiving them, but when she talks about him (Adam/Elder) she has a almost longing look, as she goes on a tangent about EVE being incapable of understanding "him", and Raven talks about about ending any talk about Even being the "Chosen One". This indicates that Raven had every intention of killing EVE, thus leaving Adam with no choice but to try to fuse with her. Also Raven's actions as the Alpha Naytiba go against Adam's own plans, as the Alpha Naytiba went around killing Airborne Squad members... all of who could have potentially served as a fusion material for Adam's plan, thus eliminating anyone who could potentially usurp her position. My interpretation is that after Raven's squadmates perished, Adam found her and rescued her from being stranded, with this being right after she started to piece together the truth, with Adam confirming it. This revelation shatters her worldview and makes Raven develop a unyielding hatred for Mother Sphere. With no one else left in her life, she clings to Adam as a emotional crutch, developing an obsession with him. He tells her about his plans and even potentially considers her for it, but secretly decides against it due to being her Hyper Body not being fully optimized and the fact that he was worried about what a empowered Raven would do with his power. Adam eventually relents and tells her that he plans to fuse with someone else. While hurt by this revelation, she pins the blame on Mother Sphere and her Angels, hunting them down.
That's a damn good case of what happens. Yes, because the 7th airborne squad are more advanced, Adam would want to choose EVE - after all we see Raven with an android arm so her body is not as humanly unisonous. This makes sense for Raven wanting to hunt them down.
Man i cannot express the amount of gratitude i have for your videos onThis game even before the release you were one i wanted to delve deep in the lore of this game. Ive seen comments from reviews and players saying the story is dull but in all honesty its really freaking cool especially with the potential for the sequel in which we desperately need new ips in the industry. Thanks so much for your in debt looks and hopefully more reasonable people who actually payed attention to the story look forward to the sequel 😀
Hell yea. Your comment is quite impactful for me. I really appreciate you letting me know. Yes, I agree with you, the story was great. Definitely can see the inspirations, but the story is also truly its own.
Haven't watched this video yet since I want to play the game myself first, but I wanted to congratulate you for it anyway. Also, if you haven't done so already, you should consider reading the Gunnm comics, which apparently were one of Kim's influences when creating Stellar Blade. They deal with many of the same themes about what it means to be human, and the author occasionally quotes Nietzsche and other philosophers throughout the story.
fosho. hope you have fun beating the game. Yeah I saw Alita Battle Angel but never dove into the books. Probably will find some time to. Appreciate your recommendation.
Solid analysis! You confirmed to me about Angels and in Eve's case has not even been alive long, and this shows in her naiveté early in the game. I love the twist that Eve and Lily think they're human, and Lily's statement that Naytiba's are only living tissue (no augments). BTW, I totally missed that Adam is Raphael Marks, the creator of Mother Sphere. That changes everything. I think this game is fantastic; it came out of nowhere for me and it has an addictive quality that makes me want to keep playing it. Definitely GOY for me.
is it fair to say we all agree that the angel drip should be available to use as an alt look for tachy mode? i realise thats irrelevant to the video's topic but still. as for the video's topic itself, youve presented it rather well, and the potential for this new humanity within the world of stellar blade would be very intruiging, both for whatever new legacy is brought forth and the skillset eve herself could potentially get.
After beating the story. I really really want a Raven DLC and watch her develop. I really liked that Raven is essentially Vergil in a way and not just gameplay. In my opinion Raven is a better Vergil clone than most in other games like Genshin and Wuthering Waves
Thanks so much for the great video. Makes me realise how tight and compelling the lore is. It's a very impressive undertaking by Shift Up. I'm also interested to know the significance of having wings only on one side side for the "good guys", and both sides for the "bad guys". The fallen angel story seems to run counter to this. Perhaps for atonement, one needs to fall first...
Appreciate your comment. Haven't come to a conclusion on this though. It is quite a compelling look to have wings on one side - could be a design decision by Shift Up?
There was so much room for more endings aside from the 3 that were presented. Eve's dialogue from denying Adam has her asserting her free will over him and Mother Sphere, but the choices we're given can all boil down to 'get rid of Adam,' so there's no ending he survives. I feel like there could have been an Adam meter that spares him at the end of his fight to mirror Lily's, and it would still fall within the 'capture or kill' parameters of the original mission. Handing him over to MS and seeing their interaction would have been cool to see. 2 endings for both choices would've made for a nice narrative symmetry. There could have been endings where you can reject MS and end up fighting for the Naytibas like Raven, or reject Adam, but agree to work together towards that dream of future coexistence, or one where you break down, swear on the extinction of both Andro-Eidos and Naytibas, and force Lily and Adam to team up and take you down in a 2v1 boss fight. The 3 we get are so vanilla in how they wrap up the story, it leaves a lot to be desired. I just wanted an ending where the trio got to stay together. DLC endings would probably cost more than they're worth to make at this point.
I agree. I was a. little confused why we were getting a Lily meter but not an Adam one. In terms of the ending, could have been budget reasons. DLC could happen and we would get more insight into the 3 that we have to expand on them and not make them so vanilla.
not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but the mission where you find Felix's body in the great desert possibly gives a lot of insight into Raven's naytiba form. the memory stick of Felix says: "raven i felt it i saw the true god i saw raven kneeling and transforming into the true appearance of an angel. they saw me. the true god they said there shall be another light the raven is their disciple." in the memory stick it calls her "@a*en" instead of raven. but its very blatant that he is talking about raven. he calls her "the noble one clocked in shadow" in his journal titled, "I saw it," and his corpse drops one of her legacies she always leaves behind. He also mentioned that she was headed towards the Abyss Levoire in his journal. so it's very obviously raven. What isn't so obvious is this transformation of Raven's that he witnessed upon seeing 'the true god'(Adam.) felix says that she transformed into the true appearance of an angel. so my question is, was she reverting into her human form upon meeting adam as she is technically an 'angel' in that form? OR, did adam bestow a naytiba form onto her after kneeling and becoming his disciple, and Felix simply views her naytiba form as being a true depiction of an angel instead of the title given to your typical airborne squad member? hence, his use of the word "true appearance" i personally lean towards the latter. it would definitely answer how Raven discovered such a unique naytiba form. also please give us a playable raven dlc lol
Yes I know the description you're talking about in the game. Took me a bit of just sitting and thinking to realize it - haha. I think it is Raven becoming the Alpha for Adam to use as he sees fit (his disciple like you state). Great comment :)
@unlistednaytiba thanks for the reply! 🖤💜 and yes, I think it's raven becoming the alpha as well. Trust me, I was sitting there taking screenshots of it and just reading it over and over before I also came to that conclusion, haha
Thanks for all your videos on this game ! You are one of the very rare youtuber talking about the lore of Stellar Blade. I just finished the game today with the secret ending like you. Your video was great and it helped me organize my thoughts about the story. I loved it, it was very poetic. But I have a lot of questions, there are still a lot of mysteries even after finishing the game. 1) Why did Lily return to her capsule and how she was trapped in it? I suppose she returned there, because she couldn't stay where she lived with her best friend until her death. The pain was simply too much to bear. And the capsule was the only other safe place she knew. It was probably damaged by the Gigas and thus its opening mechanism was malfunctioning. 2) All people (except Adam) on Earth and in Xion are andro eidos. So how can they have siblings and children? Were other andro eidos assigned to them as family members and they don't remember this fact? Or are they able to reproduce? If it's the case, this is huge and change a lot things. 3) Why did Mother Sphere want to replace the true Humanity? On what criteria? Adaptability to the environment? She gave andro eidos the same psychology as humans. So she clearly didn't find them flawed in that aspect. 4) What is the Eve Protocol and what is its purpose? Killing the powerful naytibas seems to be only a component of the protocol. And obviously an eve angel uncorrupted by forbidden knowledge is necessary for its true completion. 5) Is a fusioned Eve automatically change the nature of all other andro eidos on Earth, and creating a new Humanity that way? Like the precedent question, this one also push us to ask what is the function (or nature) of the eve model. I have other questions but I will stop there. These are the ones most crucials and just wanted to share them. There is clearly (massive) room for a story dlc and a sequel with all these unexplored topics.
heck yea... appreciate your comment. 1) Adam, Lily and EVE have a conversation about this on the tetrapod after Lily is found, and it pretty much confirms she was inside the pod for two years... but this simply cannot be the case. I wish this dialogue scene was cleaned up a bit, but it leaves things kinda messy when you think of Lily also being with Iberis in the Altelier. Maybe Lily left the Altelier when Iberis' body core was running low to go back to the crash site of the pod to try and find supplies to sasve Iberis? 2) Not sure on their ability to reproduce. There is some information in descriptions of items/gear that states there was printing technology that existed. I believe androids were both grown in pods and also printed (have you seen The Creator? Those androids were printed in that movie). Since they don't contain any DNA, it would be hard to imagine that they are born. I think they are produced with memories that state they have relationships such as a sibling. I don't remember ever seeing kid or baby androids in the game. 3) My new video goes into this (Liar video) 4) I'm currently working on what the EVE Protocol and the Mother Sphere Doctrine are. Haven't quite finalized it, but I think the EVE Protocol is like a failsafe that Raphael Marks had planned - similar to how the Cole Protocol is a failsafe in the Halo universe. I like your idea about an angel who has not been corrupted with forbidden knowledge being required, as this draws from religious influences. 5) I think EVE is now the shepherd of the current Andro-Eidos. I would like better the idea of EVE coexisting with "lesser" beings to demonstrate her humanity.
@@unlistednaytiba Thanks for your answers ^^. I have a better grasp on the subjects I asked questions about since then. And I can't wait to watch and interact with your new videos ;)
I really like Stellar Blade but still have many questions for the story. For example, I still don't understand why Adam just waited in the nest. He told Eve and Lily that Xion had a BIG problem. Urgently leave via hoverbike. But when Eve and Lily came back, Oracle was nearly died and the city was destroyed.. Did Adam not go to Xion but Nest to prepare welcoming Eve? That's funny. Amother funny thing is at the beginning of the game, there was an annoucement that the airborne squad objective is the capture or dispatchment of the Elder Naytiba. Killing Elder Naytiba wasn't the objective. Yet, the whole game we was lead to think that we must eliminate the Elder.. Adam even emphasized this at end of the game. If I was Mothersphere, I would have a headache now. I also hope there would be more reasons for Mothersphere to start the war with human. In memorial chamber, it told that they need to adapt to survive global warming which not make sense for the war.. The technology was so highly developped at lot that human should easily survive the global warming.. Perhaps she senses more dangerous threat? It was very fun to play this game but after 3 run I got more questions about the story. lol
Heck yea, keep the questions going. I think Adam possibly did more when he returned on his hoverbike, but maybe it was as simple as his bike not going fast enough (since he didn't have the tetrapod) and he only had time to get to the Nest. haha. But seriously, he maybe wanted to ensure that EVE was indeed the one so seeing if she could get the fourth alpha core and create the master core, as well as defeat the Unidentfied Naytiba, would help him know she is the one. I believe the creation of the body core (which replaced the heart) was what created a singularity with real organic humans - there is a gear description that says this but I cannot remember which one it is. It's kinda hard to know because there is a timestamp of 2043 on one of the item descriptions, and mother sphere already was there at that time. Then the scene you're talking about where they talk about surviving global warming which happened in 22nd century. So I'm still unclear on when Andro Eidos were created, but it seems that Adam is the only true organic human during the events of Stellar Blade... he simply is a human with the body cell - heart replacement which solved aging for organic humans. Everyone else seems to be Andro Eidos but are still referred to as "humanity". As for why Mother Sphere decided to reclassify "humanity", yea, we could definitely use more exploration of this. Perhaps in the sequel.
so i might just be being silly, but the “humans” that are in the capsules are not at ALL organic humans, they are surviving androids like eve? as well as everyone you meet in xion, they have no human dna, theyre not organic at all - but theyve developed relationships and a sense of human-ness since theyve been on earth for years. OR - are the beings in xion, in and out of capsules, human/android combinations that survived & the andro-eidos (full androids made to believe theyre human) are the angels and any other airbourne squad members etc.
I am eager to complete my 2nd playthrough. I'm close to the end now. My first run, I chose the same path as you, joined with Adam at the end. This round, I will not take Adam's hand and see what the outcome is there. Then, to my understanding, there's a 3rd ending, the "bad" ending that I heard was possibly achieved by not gaining 100% affinity with Lily? Needless to say, I have no regrets purchasing a PS5 for the sole reason of this game LOL! If not for this game, I wouldn't have purchased a PS5 XD There still seem to be some unsolved mysteries as well to determine. The "mysterious" device that looks like it's meant to affix to a chest or door to unlock, that we never find the code for, as well as a door that looks to be able to get "hacked" in Matrix 11, as well as a few other areas it seems. I so love the emotions in this game, the loss is crushing, but it never breaks Eve. Her resilience of spirit is definitely inspiring for sure!
Hell yea! Glad to hear you got a ps5 to play Stellar Blade. I remember coming across doors that didn't open or seemed to be something we could access, only not to. Perhaps these are gateways for planned DLC?
Very nice summary, AI like mother sphere has no feelings or moral, AI will only can continue to evolve, learn and improve at all cost to get to perfection (even eliminating all living being in the universe). We know that nothing is perfect. Eve on the other hand gets to learn what being human truly is, by having feelings and moral, and most importantly forgiveness. I believe you nailed the true plot of the game on the head!!!! Worked in AI for many years now... it is scary when you allow AI to learn freely with no boundary, their solutions will absolute works and very efficiently but at the cost what would surprise you! ChatGPT actually got nerfed down before release, for all that had access to ChatGPT even before the release, their answers are crazy!!!!
appreciate your comment... your input about AI is scary indeed. Yes Mother Sphere will keep iterating on perfecting humanity until she deems it perfect - ripe for sequels now.
IDK man. Adam created the AI that started the first war. Then, to save organic humans from that AI, he turns organic humans into Naytibas. By keeping Raven around he indirectly killed Tachy, the entire 7th Airborne Squad and a lot of people on Xion. He lied the entire time to manipulate Eve to get what he wanted, just like Mother Sphere. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Yes I believe Raphael Marks was a bad man. I think when he took up the name Adam, he only wanted to continue the human race (didn't care about the individuals - he did use all the Angels including EVE, but she was able to gain humanity because of him). I think him and Mother Sphere are mirrors of each other. Adam wants to continue the human race with organic humans, while Mother Sphere is currently doing so with andoirds.
I think Raven's body may have also been incompatible to fuse with Adam as she is too synthetic. Look at how previous combination attempts such as Orcal who was extremely cyberized didn't quite work. Remember how Tachy was mostly flesh (she even had a natural bone and only one or maybe two small metal cables/conduits) on the inside but Raven was more machine with some meat mixed in (probably muscle, and outer most layer of skin of course). Adam also remarks that EVE had the most unisonous body ever. That meaning "in unison or in harmony" which i think is to say that her body was the closet to "human" albeit without original human DNA (yet), and that she would be the best match to him.
I think it has to do more with Raven being emotionally devastated by the fact that she has been lied to her entire life, changing her to seek revenge. She practically decided that her life up to that point was a fake, and would go on a rampant crusade to get rid of the 'fakeness' meaning eliminating Mother Sphere and everything she created, which is clearly not Adam wanted.
I think what all of you are saying could all be true. Raven is just not psychologically sound. She’s also an older model so her body needs more tech evidently, though still leagues beyond what the people of Xion have. All of that makes her not as suitable.
I had to google unisonous when Adam said it in the Nest... haha. There is an item description in the game that states how before war times, humanity was using semiconductor technology to steer technology towards singularity of human / machine harmony. I think you're right in that Adam wants/needs a more harmonious physical body as well as a socio/emotionally well being individual - advanced in all ways as EVE was
Dude first thanks so much for the video Second, it's really exciting to think about how this can become a new ip after a long time with only sequels to existing ip's I'm both interested is a sequel but also in a prequel. Think about how in braking bad and better call Saul, both are in the same universe relatively close to eachother in time but every one has their own themes and ideas. So I'd love to see a prequel about " adam" and it's not have to be even a combat heavy game it could be about different ideas and gameplay
I think a prequel of the final war would be great. But it would be cool to play as both factions. I really hope Shift Up gets green lit to expand on this universe with sequels, prequels, etc.
my conclusion ended up in a similar place as when i finished reading / watching blade runner - if the elements of humanity are present, the vessel does not really matter. Eve looks like a human, can speak and has empathy. Does that not make her human despite the shell? 100 hours of this game I got the platinum trophy, i’m looking forward to some DLC or shift’s next project with optimism
Dang congratulations on the platinum. It still eludes me. I agree. I am looking forward to what's next from Shift Up. Yea, the idea bout having empathy I believe is really important.
@@unlistednaytiba It was a grind for sure, I think because of how new the game is guides haven’t really been ironed out so even they don’t help too much. Who would have thought finding cans and fishing would be the hardest part of this game 😂
Good to see an analysis that didn’t dismiss Stellar Blade’s story straight away. A little bit of context. Life in South Korea isn’t as glamorous as their media exports. Koreans fight against impossible odds and overwhelming chaebols/consortiums on a daily basis. Just like most Korean games, Stellar Blade is a reflection on the South Korean society. It’s literally in the face, Samsung means 3 stars, and there’s a Tetrastar Electronic in game. Korean works like Parasite and Squid Game, all share this higher context. While there’s enough drama to satisfy audiences even with knowledge about the Korean society, they aren't as shallow as they first appears.
Great comment. I did hear about the chaebols and wanted to look into this more. You are the second person who has commented about them in some of my videos. Yes, Parasite and Squid Game are some great examples of this higher context you mention.
The giant energy ball spitting naytiba form (right after Tachy pulls EVE from her pod, EVE looks up and then the next scene is what is shooting at the spaceships).
Oh this is a side quest in Xion. Go to the area across from where you walk up the stairs to Roxanne. There will be a person pretending to need help. Talk to him, then they will start this mission. Enjoy it.
IMHO, I only wished the game did a better job delivering on those themes as you have described so well in this vid. I didn't feel Eve's progression to becoming more human as much as someone asks her to do something, then she goes to do it. Appreciate the deep dive into the game's lore and themes. You're the rare person who actually tried to dissect the story as opposed to regurgitate what was already written and shown.
I refuse to believe that any other ending fits the story except for "Return to the Colony". It perfectly sets up the story for a sequel and frees Eve from both Mother Sphere & Raphael Marks. Both of them are evil and I don't understand how anyone could think otherwise. The character that truly deserves a redemption arc is Raven. She is the one who suffered the most because of Raphael. It would be really cool to see her and Eve join together in the sequel to create a faction of enlightened Andro-Eidos that can take on Mother Sphere and maybe even find a cure to reverse the Naytiba experiments. The possibilities are endless with Returning to the Colony. Lastly, if Adam wanted to be apart of Eve so badly, why didn't he just sacrifice his essence to Lily by having her create a super weapon made of himself? It was already established that Lily can do this with Tachy mode. Why did he HAVE to merge with Eve and take away her identity; especially when Eve is finally starting to understand who she is? It's ridiculous and a fat slap to the face to have us follow the story of Eve becoming human-like in order to support mankind to then have that taken away by merging with this pathetic pseudo-savior. Adam had two chances to make things right and failed both times. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Let Eve stand on her own merits.
I’m not a fan of the fusing would’ve preferred Eve to stay as an Android .. now she’s just a OP character… i do hope we get more Raven for the next game she’s still out there
Still hoping to hear krato's raspy voice. Btw i felt sorry that our expectations that Tachy & Eve will fight again side by side didn't happen. Hope to see a prequel version pf this game how Tachy & Eve train together. Also prequel for Adam, Oracle eap. Raven how she changed. Still anticipating Krato's voice though. Huehuw😁
Oh hell yeah, I remember how you made me laugh with your other comment. Yeah Tachy and EVE not battling together one more time :( great ideas you have for a prequel
Yes, and I believe they could flesh it out more with sequels. It's pretty good when compared to the first games of other long-standing franchises/series.
loved the video :) i always stumble over the adroid part because from what i always learned : adroid = humanoid robot(machine). 2B would be like this no flesh just machine (looking like a human) Cyborg = human/machine hybrid. Eve on other hand isn't just machine, Eve is a hybbrid so should be a cyborg not android right ? also because she is the best fusion of both machine and flesh she is also why she is the best option to fuse with adam i mean theres a reason one is called android, the other cyborg right ? as means to tell the difference of what they are machine or a hybrid of the 2
Yes there's a lot of confusion over the semantics of the terminology used - and then you bring in humanity and humankind - it gets confusing cause you don't know if they're referring to real organic humans or the andro-eidos after they were given the title of humankind.
Great video, I need to know some thing. Is Adam the only remaining human? And are all the humans in Zion and in the game just androids who believe they are human? The same way that Eve thinks she is human?
My thought is that he is the only organic human being. Everyone else is andro-eidos. I'm dropping a video later this morning sharing my thoughts about this :) Glad to have you here.
I think she is the figurative "blade" that fell from the stars. Her blade is called the Blood Edge, Raven's is the Cryo Blade... I cannot remember what Tachy's blade is, but hers is probably a tachyon blade, similar to the blades on the Providence exosuit. In terms of the blade she uses when she is in her final form, I'm not sure of that one.
This may sound weird but after Eve and Adam's fusion does Eve technically become a hermaphrodite? Adam as fully organic human would presumably still have sperm, Eve being the most advanced and human-like android has genitals (we can see her cameltoe) but since she had no human DNA she doesn't have eggs and cannot sexually reproduce like organic humans but after their fusion she got human DNA from Adam and thus thru some means unknown to me she may have gained egg cells and also sperm cells from Adam. Thus she could self-fertilise her eggs with Adams sperm and become pregnant and birth a new race of superhumans.
Well, her being completely mechanical I don't think she would gain the ability to produce female eggs from adam. I think the fusion is more along the lines of his essence and power going into her but nothing physical remains of adam. She said she was the same Eve when speaking to Lily. Theoretically I guess she does have actual DNA now, her wing is organic. but adam was already a Naytiba so he wasn't exactly a normal human anymore anyway lol looking at the nest there were eggs and naytiba being born before our eyes even before the fusion. Even naytiba that we never saw outside of the nest. So it looked like Adam had the ability to create new naytiba already in some manner. At least I predume it was him. There's a lot left unclear about what was happening there. But assuming Adam could already do it, Even could probably create new ones as well but I doubt it would be through pregnancy and birth.
Heck yea. That moment was awesome. My favorite music moment though was Raven. I was getting my butt kicked over and over but I was grooving to the k-pop/edm song. haha.
As a warning, this comment is going to contain spoilers for the other ending of the game (not taking Adam's hand). The one issue I had with the way the game resolved the other ending is that the run-up to the climax paints it like you're about to get a 'good' ending before it pulls the rug out from under you. What I mean is, Adam tells Eve to join with him and create a new future for everyone, but he's not giving her much agency at all in how he lays out the goal of the fusion. He paints it like an all-or-nothing deal, which to be fair to him, it is. However, when you refuse to take Adam's hand, Eve states that no matter how bloody the hands are of either Mother Sphere or of Adam, she wants the freedom to make this last choice on her own terms. I was expecting this to be what opened the way up for a third option that threaded the needle between joining either Adam or Mother Sphere (since Eve finally has agency for herself), but instead it just pivots to Eve and Lily obediently going back to the colony with Mother Sphere, which felt like an off note to me. I get what the story was going for thematically, in that Eve refusing to continue the cycle of bloodshed - her "mission" - was more important than her gaining full autonomous agency in every respect (i.e., compassion is more vital to being human than pure self-interest), but I feel like there was a way to bridge the gap there a bit more elegantly. On the other hand, it gives me an actual reason to go for the "true" ending in NG+, so I'll take it. Cheers for the thoughtful analysis, as always.
Totally feel ya. I did not get the ending where EVE goes back to the colony... playing NG+ and will choose that one just to see it. Great to hear your thoughts.
I think an easy fix for rejecting Adam's hand ending is that Adam was unaware actual humans were hiding elsewhere on Earth. Lily said there was still more things to do (e.g., go back to Xion to insert the hyper cell) but Eve wanted to ask Mother Sphere questions first. So presumably (hopefully), Eve and Lily can still return to Xion after asking Mother Sphere questions. At the end of the credits, it says their journey to find the truth continues. I personally feel like this is a better setup for a sequel instead of the true ending. A sequel for the true ending will turn the game into a worse Star Wars because the world building in Star Wars is way better than in Stellar Blade.
@@unlistednaytiba Thanks! It's an interesting ending, and in my opinion the boss fight (which is different) is one of the best in the game. I think you'll enjoy it. Hope you're having a great weekend!
Yes you are correct. However, I go back and forth on who was being liberated. I'm not quite sure. Part of me thinks that real organic human beings created androids more as service or slave-like droids, and so the androids were being liberated by Mother Sphere. However, we know that the humans who fled underground were the Humanity Liberation Front as seen in the RAFFY log data documents.
There is a gigantic plot hole in the story: I also think, that the Airborne Squad dives yearly and Lily spend TWO years in her landing pod…as she mentions after the Gigas battle in the end of Eidos 7. BUT: If you play Eidos 9 and learn about her colleague Iberis…Lily NOW mentions she is the colleague, who survived as well, but died ONE year ago. So how could Lily put here in the capsule, create the secret hideout while being imprisoned in the landing pod for TWO years and probably never left it at all after crashing on the surface? That doesn’t make sense at all. Lily couldn’t have flight around with the landing pod like a spaceship neither. Very sad, that THIS wasn’t thought out at all. Otherwise great game! But even if the squads dive every 10 years…the fact that Lily spend the last TWO years in a pod but put Iberis in her flowergrave ONE year ago doesn’t make any sense. By the way…Iberis looks like Lily but with long hair…maybe the same production line (of androids).
Maybe Lily could have just lied, since we need to have 100% of friendship with her so she can tell her secret. So when Eve meets her and has 0% she just doesn't say what she's been doing on earth this whole time.
@@lovelyvibes5273No she wasn’t lying…but even so…Lily was definitely trapped in this landing pod and was rescued by Eve after the boss fight. So the secret level story is and remains unfortunately a plot hole. That’s very sad because I like the music and the atmosphere there the most…only the developer can clear that up. Even if Lily would have said she was trapped in the pod for 6 months…the pod is only for landing…and not flying around the planet…the contradiction remains 🙁
Is flying the only way to get to Eidos 9? I thought there was water surrounding it. Couldn't she just have just used one of those hover bikes to get there? And what's stopping her from finding a ship, making a trip to Eidos 9, and returning back to the crater where the pod landed? I have to push back on this because I'm not sure if it's a plot hole@@Erdadler
@@alexsanimeart5706 Doesn’t make sense, because she mentioned she was TRAPPED TWO years in the pod. She never traveled back and forth. Otherwise the first meeting with Eve should have been in another way…but Lily was freed from the landing pod she was in for TWO years. And there is no further explanation how that’s the case when she hang out with Iberis ONE year ago…I wished there was an explanation, but that can only be explained by the developer.
I was confused too. The cutscene makes us initially think Lily was in that pod for 2 years. However, Adam talks about the hideout which actually refers to where Iberis and Lily stayed. Most likely Lily just went to the pod to send the distress signal so the 7th airborne squad can find her but there was an Alpha Naytiba nearby so she took cover in the pod for safety.
Oh dang. I missed that. Gotta go back and check. As for the kids thing, after watching the BIBI music video, it seems that Andro Eidos are also grown somehow organically with "android" or "machine" portions also fused or implemented somehow. So perhaps they do have organic components somewhere. But not sure about the kids. I remember reading in one of the gear descriptions that the bodyframes originally had only one design/model, and the reason they get their differences in facial features, hair, etc. is because the nanotechnology interprets their character traits. So I think they all are produced or birthed at the full adult size and not really born as babies.
I am really happy this video exists, the story of stellar blade is truly amazing and genuinely overlooked by so many, I do understand it also doesn't tell its story in a usual way but I still think that shouldn't take away from what narrative it is trying to tell, im genuinely hyped for what games we could get. The way this games story was presented allows for us to even potentially get a prequel Raven game or something about the colony extinction
Your comment is really appreciated. I agree. Getting a prequel with some Raven content or even the Final War's lead up to the colony extinction would be great to experience and also flesh out the overall story.
By "Cryo" do you mean in the Cradle? My interpretation was that they are in the cradle to help power XION (their body cells can give a tiny portion of power to keep Xion alive). Also, older or weaker people are placed in the cradle first so to protect them from Naytiba. The understanding is that once Adam finds enough hyper cells, he can restore power and the people in the cradle can be revived. So in addition to his biblical name symbolizing his ability to give life when he fuses with EVE, he is also giving life to the people in the cradle by finding hyper cells. And ever person in the game, with the exception of Adam and Mother Sphere, is Andro-Eidos. The angels are andro-eidos, but a more advanced version used as weapons.
@@unlistednaytiba that's an interesting theory I just thought it was there's not enough power to wake everyone up. I also figured that everyone in the city is are humans with the exception of a few Androids here and there or drones. The wiki for Stellar blade does seem to have different categories for humans and Androids like Eve. Though that is not by itself enough information.
I got the secret/true ending on my first playthrough. Speed running to get the bad ending cause I know it's about to be some bullshit. I'm just doing it for the potential trophy to get all endings. I really do love the true ending. Eve leading the new wave of humanity, but still has to fight to prove her worthiness. And Mother Sphere is going to stop anyways. And I don't know how the Good Ending (Return to the colony) is good. Eve continues to be a pawn for Mother Sphere after finding out the truth? Screw that. I haven't got that ending, but that's what it sounds like
Yeah and we get some gameplay on the Colony. Since the Colony is so vast, hopefully we get to see some really far out there concepts that Mother Sphere has cooked up on the Colony.
I just don't get how if you're fighting the nativez during the whole game how in the end you're supposed to fuse with the boss of the nativez as a solution to carry on the world of humanity So Adam wants these disgusting life forms that are trying to kill everything in sight to continue on?
I noticed that Raven and Eve's relationship with Adam are very opposite with Raven there's was honesty but no trust and faith while with Eve there was trust and faith but no honesty. Raven cared strongly about Adam because he's closest thing to honesty to her, after all she learned that her life, her identity and her mission have has been a complete lie and working for Adam also meant that Raven had to accept the bitter fact that her comrades died for nothing. They could've saved Humanity a long time ago but the bond between them failed because Raven's instability made her hateful and difficult to reason since she doesn't understand why Eve was chosen aswell as Adam noticing that the truth made Raven lose her compassion, it's possible that since Raven became a Naytiba on her own she rejected the fusion because it came at the cost of losing him and doesn't want to be obligated in protecting Xion and the people. Eve on the other trusted Adam for saving her and also helping her learn more about the very world she has never set foot on while also encounter and helping different people even though the whole time Adam was risking his life hiding his true identity while using Eve's mission to show her and Lily the dark truth of Mother Sphere. So Raven's lack of faith and trust in Adam has rendered her alone, crippled and unforgiven for her actions while Eve in the true ending comes to understand that Adam still had the best of intentions despite the circumstances and agrees to fuse with him to save everyone from Mother Sphere's goal to replace and redefine humanity.
Yes I think you are right. There is something within the Naytiba where if the fusion is accepted, then it proliferates into something good (like a true bond). If there is some type of rejection involved, the fusion does not work correctly and you see a shell Naytiba come about (such as Raven's black unlisted naytiba shell and Adam's white shell if EVE rejects him) I do like how you noticed the opposite-relationship of Raven and EVE
Adam never explicitly says, "I was Raphael Marks", but there is a lot of evidence of this. It says in Adam's character description. Also, while in the Nest, Adam tells EVE everything started with him. This means that when he was Raphael Marks he created Mother Sphere like back around 2042ish.
A little bit of humanity gained from everyone in EVE's life on earth. In terms of Raven, I think the big takeaway is that EVE sees the humanity lost in her and also Raven had a lack of others to provide her with humanity and support. But EVE gets that from her relationship with the people of the game.
I definitely think people who didn’t pay attention are blinded into thinking “oh I have to follow my instructions until the end, Adam is the villain” and totally missing the point. 😅 (Aside from the fact that the tagline of the game is to “save humanity from extinction” and your orders were to capture him, not kill him.) I’d categorize Adam as a Chaotic Neutral character. He’s a good guy, but not a stereotypical superhero in a cape. He’s highly intelligent and well-intentioned but clumsy and made mistakes. A bit selfish, but he has a guilty conscience unlike a true villain like Mother Sphere. I also don’t think Raven has much of a guilty conscience… She put Tachy in some sort of Naytiba cocoon simply to torture Eve. Also considering she was okay with nuking Xion and killing their Leader all in the hopes of tampering with the Cradle to stop Adam and Eve from creating a new dawn of humanity. But yeah, the point of the game is actually to question your instructions as soon as you land on Eidos 7. 😂 That’s what I did. Just like 10 Memorysticks in, I was like “Hmm… This doesn’t feel right.” Then you get to Xion, do side quests and you’re like “This whole Mother Sphere thing DEFINITELY doesn’t feel right.” The only plot hole I don’t quite get is how Lily could go around adventuring in Eidos 9 and be trapped in a pod for years if not decades or centuries. 😂
Great comment - I think Adam when he was Raphael Marks did a lot of bad stuff and now as Adam he really does take up penance and wants to atone for all the bad he did - primarily in creating Mother Sphere.
Appreciate your comment, I think it could be argued both ways with several different supporting factors to support each argument. Yes he created an ASI and played with the human genome to destroy humanity twice... haha (facepalm for Adam). I do think there is merit to saying he is being antagonized by Mother Sphere though, as once he is presented in the game, he is trying to makeup for his misdeeds.
TO HappyDaddyKratos What if... stellar blade 2' story is about multi-verse? EVE is OP now. I think we need another multi vision EVE. In that universe, EVE is not OP, Tarch is still alive. My theory, SB1 EVE wins to Mother Sphere, but Mother Sphere already killed everyone except EVE. even, Mother Sphere is not destroyed permanently. So, EVE absorb Mother Sphere's essence. SB1 EVE become like God. SB1 EVE, using her power, travel to the past to the era when Mother Sphere don't exit yet. then, New universe, A parallel universe is created. SB2 world. What do you think?
@@themegatonmenace1224 LOL. Is that so?😅 Weakening Ultimate Eve seems complicated. I like most of characters in this game. but, In general, build-up of most of characters cannot be considered successful. I think it would be better to do a soft reset.
Multi-verse could get messy - just look at the MCU right now. But I do think there's merit to your idea of mother sphere being absorbed. I had a thought that the point of the Angels is that Mother Sphere wants to keep iterating on them until she is satisfied with a highly advanced one and then she somehow puts her essence into that angel body. This could be a way that EVE has an foe to fight that she is not immediately at an advantage over (as you stated because EVE is super OP now).
@@unlistednaytiba thank you. I wanted to hear your thoughts. In my theory, SB1 Eve is like Luke Skywalker, a retired god in SB2 world. SB2 Eve is a new character that many people will like, and I hope she doesn't become OP. There are two Eves in that universe, SB1 Eve is in a situation where direct intervention is difficult for some reason. Actually, it is like a Terminator story. This is an issue caused by the lack of experience of the developers. So I thought a soft reset might be a good idea.
So it is the story of two very different races, coming from a starting race in common, that through the union of a woman and a man will have a child that is a mixture, to symbolise peace between the two races. Nice. So Raven tried with Adam, but her body probably wasn't as advanced as EVE's to accommodate a human baby, EVE on the other hand is advanced enough to even simulate ovulation? I believe it is a desperate attempt by the mother sphere to create a perfect individual, physically attractive, high-performing (even too much given the power of EVE) and also fertile.
This is exactly what makes Stellar Blade truly amazing. So many people say Stellar Blade has no story, which is totally not the case. I will admit that its delivery was a bit clumsy, but everything you need to build an entire new worldview and IP is there. There is so much potential with this to include even a prologue where you can experience the Wars before the final war.
Totally agree. Good foundation for future games.
they only see eve ass and forget about storey
PS. In the hero’s journey there is the concept of “The shadow self” - which Raven is a good example of
OH this is awesome you pointed out. Yeah this totally fits. Shadow EVE - Raven.
@@unlistednaytibathank you, Perfect narrative explained behind Stellar Blade's story ♥️. And thank you for putting my thoughts of the game now in a more broad understanding of the story behind Stellar Blade.
Raven is the character I wanted A2 from Nier Automata to be.
Glad someone is talking about the lore of this game. Feels like nobody even realizes this game released? What a shame because this was such a fun experience. I'm on my 4th playthrough already. I rarely play any game more than 2 times, but there is something special about this one.
Anyone else think that Raven was basically a anime girl version of Lillith?
- "First wife (Angel aka Andros Eidos) of Adam"
- "Primordial she-demon" (Unidentified Naytiba form)
- Banished from the Garden of Eden (Nest) for not complying with and obeying Adam.
Also, anyone who doesn't think Mother Sphere is the villain of this story clearly didn't pay close enough attention. I mean there's so many memory sticks and little tidbits sprinkled throughout the game, that reaffirm that Mother Sphere is not the character to be rooting for. For example, if you read Providence's character bio, it states that Mother Sphere designed that new exosuit without any regard for protecting the wearer's body. Mother Sphere may not have malicious intent, but it's clear it has no empathy, and is fine with literal genocide, as long as her goals are reached. It's a AI murderbot that has lost all restrictions on the "human evolution" programming. The perfect villain for Eve too since Eve also keeps Evolving and defying Mother Sphere's expectations. This in turn most likely just peaks Mother Sphere's interest more and will make Mother Sphere keep raising the stakes until Mother Sphere wins or is destroyed. We got a perfect, "unstoppable force meets immovable object" scenario lined up for the sequel, and I'm here for it.
I'm dying for more lore about The Colony and Mother Sphere. Seeing the remains of the Colony in the [Return to the Colony] ending, had me so freaking hyped. Would love a flashback showing when Mother Sphere dropped the Colony onto Earth. That would be wild to see firsthand. Hope this game gets a sequel so I can enjoy more of this fascinating albeit dystopian reality they've created.
Thank you for being the only person to properly explore the lore of this game!
*_~May your memories live on, forever~_*
What I find interestingly is that Mother Sphere wants to create humans better than what nature could, but when it comes to creating the Airborn members she uses flesh that contains no human DNA whatsoever. Did she find humans so inherently flawed that it was in our DNA so she decided to make new ones “entirely from scratch”? I wonder what is her true end goal of human evolution. How much more advanced can the technology inside the Angels get?
Great comment. I am appreciating your ideas about Raven.
Yes Mother Sphere is messed up. There are hints in the game about how AI work. The RAFFY AI of the human liberation front expresses some pretty messed up reasoning, so it's safe to say that Mother Sphere reasons in the same way. However, I do believe Raphael Marks programmed some back door fail safe to get around Mother Sphere if she ever went crazy. I think the EVE protocol is that failsafe, but still trying to fully understand it myself.
And yea, when I read the description about the Providence, I was laughing to myself at how messed up that was. It would also be great to see the use of flashbacks explored more in future games in this franchise. They kinda explored it with flashback pictures in cutscenes. They definitely got to get up to the colony in future games too. That thing is so freaking big. Mother Sphere is probably up to all kinds of things on the colony.
I believe all of what covers the skinsuit of an Angel is the nanotech - even the blood. The blood and bones are there simply to trick the Andro-Eidos and Angels into making them think they are organic human beings that achieved singularity with machines (what Lily says through the drone when you're in Abyss Levoire).
@@unlistednaytiba The failsafe thing is a really neat idea for the sequel. My head cannon is that during the final confrontation with Mother Sphere, she has us cornered.
At the last second, Adam (who we thought was completely absorbed by EVE, but in a surprise twist turns out to be able to manifest as some sort of conscience within her) activates a failsafe protocol, to give us the upper hand to defeat Mother Sphere.
Hope something like that happens. Adam is such a massively pivotal character to the world of Stellar Blade that it would be a shame to not have Adam return in some form for the sequel.
@@unlistednaytibayah i noticed in the fight against raven her " bone" in the cut arm was made of metal
I loved Eve's character development throughout the game.
I think Raven corrupted Tachy to try to force feelings of despair and revenge on Eve so she would become unworthy to Adam.
There's that scene where Eve rage that she wants to make the unidentified Naytiba pay and Adam comments about "a mistake that can't be made twice".
That was okay but kind of bare bones imo. I thought she needed a bit more development but i suspect we will get that in the next game.
What development?
Facts
It's in the video
OMG, I was including that scene in my video but decided to take it out cause it was getting too bloated with hitting my point home - you're talking about the scene right after they come up to Xion from the presence chamber (after Tachy dies). Yes Adam doesn't want EVE to go down the same path of rage and revenge that Raven went down. Really cool you saw that.
I like the duality of the 3 endings. Follow your programming to destroy the Naytiba, Lose your humanity and become like Raven, or become the bridge to oppose Mother Sphere.
Almost similar to the three ending choices in Mass Effect trilogy
Now that I’ve finished the game, the names Adam and Eve are definite foreshadowing.
Yes definitely. The whole EVE name on Raven's "cape" has thrown me off though. Makes me think Raphael and Mother Sphere somehow are aware of each other's plans.
She clearly understands what it means to be human forgetting who you are to become someone they need.
Yes in the secret ending, she definitely remained herself / human.
I am so lucky to have subscribed to your channel. Thank you for wrapping up the story so nicely. You said exactly what I needed to hear and also wanted to say the same thing while playing this amazing game of the century. What is human? What make us, us? We are just a living organism that interprets light and/or touching information to electric pulses and seding it to the brain so it can be processed the information. What makes us different than the machines or AIs if that's the case? By interacting with the Xion characters and reading the books throughout the game, I realized that I can't see the clear line between the human and Andro-Eidos beings. So it was only natural that I had to choose to become one with Adam after at the end of 182 hours of first time play through. Great game.
Really really appreciate your comment. This is very motivating and nice to hear. I really appreciate it. I do think part of the design of this game is to blur the line between organic humans and andro-eidos so that we look to non-literal things to determine if EVE or other characters are "human." Glad you enjoyed the game. You got the platinum then ya? 182 hours is legit :)
This is one of my most anticipated videos and indeed you delivered it beautifully.
One thing I would love to hear more in the sequels is Raphael and MS history.
Yes! I agree on that! I wanna learn and know more about Adam (Raphael Marks) and Mother Sphere
I really appreciate your comment.
I agree with you. think sequels should definitely keep Mother Sphere as the antagonist and explore the use of flashbacks more.
Thank you for diving into this. Like dragons dogma 2 right now there is little conversation on such good lore building. im lore crafting and all of this dedication is very appreciated. This story deserves to be really spread out and explored over the span of a series with the endings teasing something to continue
Wow your comment is much appreciated. Yes, I am really hoping for a franchise being started here with EVE and Stellar Blade. Great potential. Looking forward to what the big announcement from Shift Up is going to be this week.
Hate, desire for revenge, envy are often viewed as inhuman. But they are an essentiel part of humanity as their opposites are. By fusing only with Eve, there will be something necessary lacking, that only Raven could have provided.
Good point. You could argue that Adam has those as he headed the humanity liberation front - they were aimed at taking revenge on the andro-eidos.
The biggest questions I still ponder are why humanity needs to evolve under such harsh conditions & why EVE needs to be tested as a bridge between two species? More importantly, why is the Colony so massive? The enviro-pods that the Colony dropped seem so inconsequential in the grand scope of things, and when EVE & Lily behold the Colony's true size, it seems unrecognizable from their perspective. I get the feeling that something else looms on the horizon, and Mother Sphere recognizes that entity as a threat that even her Angels cannot handle without evolution.
I think it's mostly due to MS being an artificial Super Intelligence, so her measures are all quite extreme. IN terms of the Colony, yes it does appear to be massive. It would be great to explore the Colony in potential sequels. Shift Up could get pretty creative with the environments they create in the Colony.
Beautifully explained! Thank you so much for your videos and the effort you put into them, the level of detail is amazing. Can’t wait for more!
Heck year. Your feedback is much appreciated.
I want to personally thank you for this video. Although I already figured out most of it, you did stitch together some points I was a little iffy about. I'm currently on my first NG+ play through. I'm not particularly good at the game, but I am enjoying it immensely. This video will add significantly to that enjoyment. I truly mean it when I say... I owe you big time sir! Subscribed!
Heck yea. Your comment is much appreciated. I'm sure by now you completed your NG+. Hope you enjoyed the different endings. Have a good one, and again, I appreciate this comment immensely, as well as the sub.
Enjoy your videos. The story is layered and fleshed out throughout the world.
Something that seems to have been lost on many UA-camrs/reviewers.
I found it refreshing that the script wasn’t stuffed with “marvel humour”.
Eve is essentially a weapon, a terminator, and through her interactions with Adam, Lily and the people of Xion gains her humanity through the kindness she shows.
If the fuse ending is to be the canon ending I am interested to see how her character will further develop in a sequel.
I agree - she is basically a terminator. I do like the way the Shift Up team developed her as a character, and I don't think she was ever supposed to develop beyond what she did in the game, partly due to your point in that she is a weapon.
In terms of the ending, I actually also really like the return to colony ending as it opens up the opportunity for the sequel to take place on the Colony and to confront MS. But the upgraded EVE version also works quite well. Curious to see what Shift Up decides.
Yoow this channel is underrated...thank you for giving much your time on breaking down this story
Heck yea. Appreciate your comment. Glad to have you here. I will keep them coming for sure.
Many people would have missed the hidden messaging since the game is so fun to play, so thank you sir for revealing the hidden truths in the game 🔥🔥
Heck ya, you the best
I was so stoned playing this game that I only realised their names when Adam asked for your hand. All these religious references, man this game is beyond awesome. Its worldbuilding, the characters, everything was on point
Your comment has me rolling. Really appreciate it. Brought a smile to my morning. Have a good one, and enjoy a bowl with the new Nier outfits :)
PPS: at the end, Mother Sphere mentions (not a spoiler) - her first words are “starlight - twinkling off satellites” which is an encapsulation of the idea of the organic (starlight) reflecting off the created machine (satellites). Organic vs non-organic. A poetic theme - I think people may have missed a lot because of the way the information was given (through the memory sticks which most people didn’t read). For the next game, they hopefully will weave that in with characters you interact with.
Yeah it is :)
And I agree with you... hopefully the next game will include more story and relationship building through the cutscenes or dialogue. The lore in the items and documents are always great, but hopefully with a bigger budget we can get more story delivered in the aforementioned avenues of cutscenes or dialogue.
Been binge watching your videos. Fantastic stuff
appreciate it - Happy to hear you jumping into the deep end :)
This story has so much potential. The more I play and pay attention, the better it gets.
Yes, and on NG+ it adds to it more as well.
Few corrections.
- Not all angels are Eves. Every airborne squad has 1 Eve. Raven wasn’t an Eve in her squad. This is why Raven targets Eve instead of Tachy at the start of the game.
Digger uses the term “Angel of the Eve Airborne Squad” and Eve responds by saying “I’m Eve”.
This implies that Eve is special in a way.
- A lot of people are missing the point when Adam says Eve Protocol was created by the surviving humans. I think Eve Protocol was something Raphael Marks (Adam) inserted into Mother Sphere’s code during the first war. This protocol was to ensure the survival of humanity without Mother Sphere suspecting it.
This is further supported by the fact that Mother Sphere says “This concludes Eve Protocol, but the result is disappointing”.
This protocol made the Mother Sphere continuously send Eve Airborne Squads to earth thinking that it was to eliminate the Elder, but its underlying purpose is to ensure humanity’s survival.
When I use the word ‘humans’, I’m not referring to ‘Andro-Eidos’. I’m referring to humans who eventually turned into Naytibas.
I like this theory
Yes, I've recently thought that Mother Sphere and Raphael marks both know a bit more about each other's plans than was let on. And yes I agree there is one EVE per wave. I thought this because I realized after making this video that Raven's "cape" says EVE on it, so I was kinda curious why this is. There is the potential for an EVE protocol with each wave.
Wait wait wait, cause I’ve had this question since day one and it might be a dumb question but why is Eve named Eve? Like Mother Sphere created the Eve Protocol decades prior to Eve and Tachy’s 7th Airborne Squad being sent out to find the Elder so like why was she specifically given the namesake of the entire mission that existed way before her? Was it somehow known that she was going to be special and go on the journey that she does or was it just pure coincidence that she happens to have the same name as the mission she’s on? Like theoretically speaking could that first dive have gone a way where the entire squad including Eve died but Tachy survived and she becomes the protagonist of the game? Like was there actually anything special about Eve or was she just the one that survived and happened to have that name?
I’ve been waiting for this video
Hell yea! I got more coming :)
Great video!
Appreciate your comment.
This is the video that I was waiting for. On a grander scale, Mother Sphere is the manipulative one. It didn't just try to replace humanity's future, but its entirety as well. Our history, faith, myths, culture are all being systematically replaced by Mother Sphere. In the good ending, Adam said so himself. Taking his hand will not solve all problems, but what he is gunning for is a fighting chance for us to regain humanity.
Yes I did think he's arguments were sound. Mother Sphere is hella messed up. Straight dropping parts of the colony on earth like meteors.
I don't think that Raven thought that Adam was using her, as she didn't showcase any resentment towards him in her dialogue.
Notice how when she confronts EVE in her Angel form, she very angrily talks about Mother Sphere deceiving them, but when she talks about him (Adam/Elder) she has a almost longing look, as she goes on a tangent about EVE being incapable of understanding "him", and Raven talks about about ending any talk about Even being the "Chosen One". This indicates that Raven had every intention of killing EVE, thus leaving Adam with no choice but to try to fuse with her.
Also Raven's actions as the Alpha Naytiba go against Adam's own plans, as the Alpha Naytiba went around killing Airborne Squad members... all of who could have potentially served as a fusion material for Adam's plan, thus eliminating anyone who could potentially usurp her position.
My interpretation is that after Raven's squadmates perished, Adam found her and rescued her from being stranded, with this being right after she started to piece together the truth, with Adam confirming it. This revelation shatters her worldview and makes Raven develop a unyielding hatred for Mother Sphere. With no one else left in her life, she clings to Adam as a emotional crutch, developing an obsession with him. He tells her about his plans and even potentially considers her for it, but secretly decides against it due to being her Hyper Body not being fully optimized and the fact that he was worried about what a empowered Raven would do with his power.
Adam eventually relents and tells her that he plans to fuse with someone else. While hurt by this revelation, she pins the blame on Mother Sphere and her Angels, hunting them down.
That's a damn good case of what happens. Yes, because the 7th airborne squad are more advanced, Adam would want to choose EVE - after all we see Raven with an android arm so her body is not as humanly unisonous. This makes sense for Raven wanting to hunt them down.
Man i cannot express the amount of gratitude i have for your videos onThis game even before the release you were one i wanted to delve deep in the lore of this game. Ive seen comments from reviews and players saying the story is dull but in all honesty its really freaking cool especially with the potential for the sequel in which we desperately need new ips in the industry. Thanks so much for your in debt looks and hopefully more reasonable people who actually payed attention to the story look forward to the sequel 😀
Hell yea. Your comment is quite impactful for me. I really appreciate you letting me know. Yes, I agree with you, the story was great. Definitely can see the inspirations, but the story is also truly its own.
Haven't watched this video yet since I want to play the game myself first, but I wanted to congratulate you for it anyway.
Also, if you haven't done so already, you should consider reading the Gunnm comics, which apparently were one of Kim's influences when creating Stellar Blade. They deal with many of the same themes about what it means to be human, and the author occasionally quotes Nietzsche and other philosophers throughout the story.
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fosho. hope you have fun beating the game. Yeah I saw Alita Battle Angel but never dove into the books. Probably will find some time to. Appreciate your recommendation.
Very good video, thank you for explaining the story in such an organized way
Wow, I appreciate your comment. Your feedback is much appreciated. Glad to have you here.
Amazing vid, really helping sort out things I was confused about thank you! Glad I found this channel
Heck yea, Glad you're here.
Solid analysis! You confirmed to me about Angels and in Eve's case has not even been alive long, and this shows in her naiveté early in the game.
I love the twist that Eve and Lily think they're human, and Lily's statement that Naytiba's are only living tissue (no augments).
BTW, I totally missed that Adam is Raphael Marks, the creator of Mother Sphere. That changes everything.
I think this game is fantastic; it came out of nowhere for me and it has an addictive quality that makes me want to keep playing it. Definitely GOY for me.
is it fair to say we all agree that the angel drip should be available to use as an alt look for tachy mode? i realise thats irrelevant to the video's topic but still.
as for the video's topic itself, youve presented it rather well, and the potential for this new humanity within the world of stellar blade would be very intruiging, both for whatever new legacy is brought forth and the skillset eve herself could potentially get.
Yes I youtubed the other ending - not take adam's hand. No angel drip :(
Perfect ♥️. Thank you for putting my thoughts of the game now in a more broad understanding of the story behind Stellar Blade.
Appreciate your comment. Glad to have you here.
@@unlistednaytiba you're welcome. Sorry for the mistyped sentence. "... now in a more broad understanding ..."
After beating the story. I really really want a Raven DLC and watch her develop. I really liked that Raven is essentially Vergil in a way and not just gameplay. In my opinion Raven is a better Vergil clone than most in other games like Genshin and Wuthering Waves
You are right. Raven would be a darn good DLC
Thanks so much for the great video. Makes me realise how tight and compelling the lore is. It's a very impressive undertaking by Shift Up. I'm also interested to know the significance of having wings only on one side side for the "good guys", and both sides for the "bad guys". The fallen angel story seems to run counter to this. Perhaps for atonement, one needs to fall first...
Appreciate your comment. Haven't come to a conclusion on this though. It is quite a compelling look to have wings on one side - could be a design decision by Shift Up?
There was so much room for more endings aside from the 3 that were presented. Eve's dialogue from denying Adam has her asserting her free will over him and Mother Sphere, but the choices we're given can all boil down to 'get rid of Adam,' so there's no ending he survives. I feel like there could have been an Adam meter that spares him at the end of his fight to mirror Lily's, and it would still fall within the 'capture or kill' parameters of the original mission. Handing him over to MS and seeing their interaction would have been cool to see. 2 endings for both choices would've made for a nice narrative symmetry.
There could have been endings where you can reject MS and end up fighting for the Naytibas like Raven, or reject Adam, but agree to work together towards that dream of future coexistence, or one where you break down, swear on the extinction of both Andro-Eidos and Naytibas, and force Lily and Adam to team up and take you down in a 2v1 boss fight. The 3 we get are so vanilla in how they wrap up the story, it leaves a lot to be desired. I just wanted an ending where the trio got to stay together. DLC endings would probably cost more than they're worth to make at this point.
I agree. I was a. little confused why we were getting a Lily meter but not an Adam one. In terms of the ending, could have been budget reasons. DLC could happen and we would get more insight into the 3 that we have to expand on them and not make them so vanilla.
not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but the mission where you find Felix's body in the great desert possibly gives a lot of insight into Raven's naytiba form.
the memory stick of Felix says:
"raven i felt it
i saw the true god i saw raven kneeling and transforming into the true appearance of an angel. they saw me. the true god they said there shall be another light
the raven is their disciple."
in the memory stick it calls her "@a*en" instead of raven. but its very blatant that he is talking about raven.
he calls her "the noble one clocked in shadow" in his journal titled, "I saw it," and his corpse drops one of her legacies she always leaves behind.
He also mentioned that she was headed towards the Abyss Levoire in his journal. so it's very obviously raven.
What isn't so obvious is this transformation of Raven's that he witnessed upon seeing 'the true god'(Adam.)
felix says that she transformed into the true appearance of an angel.
so my question is, was she reverting into her human form upon meeting adam as she is technically an 'angel' in that form? OR, did adam bestow a naytiba form onto her after kneeling and becoming his disciple, and Felix simply views her naytiba form as being a true depiction of an angel instead of the title given to your typical airborne squad member? hence, his use of the word "true appearance"
i personally lean towards the latter. it would definitely answer how Raven discovered such a unique naytiba form.
also please give us a playable raven dlc lol
Yes I know the description you're talking about in the game. Took me a bit of just sitting and thinking to realize it - haha. I think it is Raven becoming the Alpha for Adam to use as he sees fit (his disciple like you state). Great comment :)
@unlistednaytiba thanks for the reply! 🖤💜 and yes, I think it's raven becoming the alpha as well.
Trust me, I was sitting there taking screenshots of it and just reading it over and over before I also came to that conclusion, haha
Thanks for all your videos on this game ! You are one of the very rare youtuber talking about the lore of Stellar Blade.
I just finished the game today with the secret ending like you. Your video was great and it helped me organize my thoughts about the story. I loved it, it was very poetic. But I have a lot of questions, there are still a lot of mysteries even after finishing the game.
1) Why did Lily return to her capsule and how she was trapped in it? I suppose she returned there, because she couldn't stay where she lived with her best friend until her death. The pain was simply too much to bear. And the capsule was the only other safe place she knew. It was probably damaged by the Gigas and thus its opening mechanism was malfunctioning.
2) All people (except Adam) on Earth and in Xion are andro eidos. So how can they have siblings and children? Were other andro eidos assigned to them as family members and they don't remember this fact? Or are they able to reproduce? If it's the case, this is huge and change a lot things.
3) Why did Mother Sphere want to replace the true Humanity? On what criteria? Adaptability to the environment? She gave andro eidos the same psychology as humans. So she clearly didn't find them flawed in that aspect.
4) What is the Eve Protocol and what is its purpose? Killing the powerful naytibas seems to be only a component of the protocol. And obviously an eve angel uncorrupted by forbidden knowledge is necessary for its true completion.
5) Is a fusioned Eve automatically change the nature of all other andro eidos on Earth, and creating a new Humanity that way? Like the precedent question, this one also push us to ask what is the function (or nature) of the eve model.
I have other questions but I will stop there. These are the ones most crucials and just wanted to share them. There is clearly (massive) room for a story dlc and a sequel with all these unexplored topics.
heck yea... appreciate your comment.
1) Adam, Lily and EVE have a conversation about this on the tetrapod after Lily is found, and it pretty much confirms she was inside the pod for two years... but this simply cannot be the case. I wish this dialogue scene was cleaned up a bit, but it leaves things kinda messy when you think of Lily also being with Iberis in the Altelier. Maybe Lily left the Altelier when Iberis' body core was running low to go back to the crash site of the pod to try and find supplies to sasve Iberis?
2) Not sure on their ability to reproduce. There is some information in descriptions of items/gear that states there was printing technology that existed. I believe androids were both grown in pods and also printed (have you seen The Creator? Those androids were printed in that movie). Since they don't contain any DNA, it would be hard to imagine that they are born. I think they are produced with memories that state they have relationships such as a sibling. I don't remember ever seeing kid or baby androids in the game.
3) My new video goes into this (Liar video)
4) I'm currently working on what the EVE Protocol and the Mother Sphere Doctrine are. Haven't quite finalized it, but I think the EVE Protocol is like a failsafe that Raphael Marks had planned - similar to how the Cole Protocol is a failsafe in the Halo universe. I like your idea about an angel who has not been corrupted with forbidden knowledge being required, as this draws from religious influences.
5) I think EVE is now the shepherd of the current Andro-Eidos. I would like better the idea of EVE coexisting with "lesser" beings to demonstrate her humanity.
@@unlistednaytiba Thanks for your answers ^^. I have a better grasp on the subjects I asked questions about since then. And I can't wait to watch and interact with your new videos ;)
I really like Stellar Blade but still have many questions for the story. For example, I still don't understand why Adam just waited in the nest. He told Eve and Lily that Xion had a BIG problem. Urgently leave via hoverbike. But when Eve and Lily came back, Oracle was nearly died and the city was destroyed.. Did Adam not go to Xion but Nest to prepare welcoming Eve? That's funny.
Amother funny thing is at the beginning of the game, there was an annoucement that the airborne squad objective is the capture or dispatchment of the Elder Naytiba. Killing Elder Naytiba wasn't the objective. Yet, the whole game we was lead to think that we must eliminate the Elder.. Adam even emphasized this at end of the game. If I was Mothersphere, I would have a headache now.
I also hope there would be more reasons for Mothersphere to start the war with human. In memorial chamber, it told that they need to adapt to survive global warming which not make sense for the war.. The technology was so highly developped at lot that human should easily survive the global warming.. Perhaps she senses more dangerous threat?
It was very fun to play this game but after 3 run I got more questions about the story. lol
Heck yea, keep the questions going. I think Adam possibly did more when he returned on his hoverbike, but maybe it was as simple as his bike not going fast enough (since he didn't have the tetrapod) and he only had time to get to the Nest. haha. But seriously, he maybe wanted to ensure that EVE was indeed the one so seeing if she could get the fourth alpha core and create the master core, as well as defeat the Unidentfied Naytiba, would help him know she is the one.
I believe the creation of the body core (which replaced the heart) was what created a singularity with real organic humans - there is a gear description that says this but I cannot remember which one it is. It's kinda hard to know because there is a timestamp of 2043 on one of the item descriptions, and mother sphere already was there at that time. Then the scene you're talking about where they talk about surviving global warming which happened in 22nd century. So I'm still unclear on when Andro Eidos were created, but it seems that Adam is the only true organic human during the events of Stellar Blade... he simply is a human with the body cell - heart replacement which solved aging for organic humans. Everyone else seems to be Andro Eidos but are still referred to as "humanity".
As for why Mother Sphere decided to reclassify "humanity", yea, we could definitely use more exploration of this. Perhaps in the sequel.
so i might just be being silly, but the “humans” that are in the capsules are not at ALL organic humans, they are surviving androids like eve? as well as everyone you meet in xion, they have no human dna, theyre not organic at all - but theyve developed relationships and a sense of human-ness since theyve been on earth for years. OR - are the beings in xion, in and out of capsules, human/android combinations that survived & the andro-eidos (full androids made to believe theyre human) are the angels and any other airbourne squad members etc.
Thanks for the video. Fantastic game!
I was looking for deep dive like this since finishing it
For sure. Glad you got it
I am eager to complete my 2nd playthrough. I'm close to the end now. My first run, I chose the same path as you, joined with Adam at the end. This round, I will not take Adam's hand and see what the outcome is there. Then, to my understanding, there's a 3rd ending, the "bad" ending that I heard was possibly achieved by not gaining 100% affinity with Lily? Needless to say, I have no regrets purchasing a PS5 for the sole reason of this game LOL! If not for this game, I wouldn't have purchased a PS5 XD There still seem to be some unsolved mysteries as well to determine. The "mysterious" device that looks like it's meant to affix to a chest or door to unlock, that we never find the code for, as well as a door that looks to be able to get "hacked" in Matrix 11, as well as a few other areas it seems. I so love the emotions in this game, the loss is crushing, but it never breaks Eve. Her resilience of spirit is definitely inspiring for sure!
Hell yea! Glad to hear you got a ps5 to play Stellar Blade. I remember coming across doors that didn't open or seemed to be something we could access, only not to. Perhaps these are gateways for planned DLC?
Adore this deep explanation. Perfectly understand what the story entails now!
Appreciated your comment.
Very nice summary, AI like mother sphere has no feelings or moral, AI will only can continue to evolve, learn and improve at all cost to get to perfection (even eliminating all living being in the universe). We know that nothing is perfect. Eve on the other hand gets to learn what being human truly is, by having feelings and moral, and most importantly forgiveness. I believe you nailed the true plot of the game on the head!!!! Worked in AI for many years now... it is scary when you allow AI to learn freely with no boundary, their solutions will absolute works and very efficiently but at the cost what would surprise you! ChatGPT actually got nerfed down before release, for all that had access to ChatGPT even before the release, their answers are crazy!!!!
appreciate your comment... your input about AI is scary indeed. Yes Mother Sphere will keep iterating on perfecting humanity until she deems it perfect - ripe for sequels now.
raven she is a good person
kinda cray tho right?
Daddy Kratos, what does it mean.... to be human?
I'm getting hungry tho. Human hunger.
IDK man. Adam created the AI that started the first war. Then, to save organic humans from that AI, he turns organic humans into Naytibas. By keeping Raven around he indirectly killed Tachy, the entire 7th Airborne Squad and a lot of people on Xion. He lied the entire time to manipulate Eve to get what he wanted, just like Mother Sphere. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Yes I believe Raphael Marks was a bad man. I think when he took up the name Adam, he only wanted to continue the human race (didn't care about the individuals - he did use all the Angels including EVE, but she was able to gain humanity because of him).
I think him and Mother Sphere are mirrors of each other. Adam wants to continue the human race with organic humans, while Mother Sphere is currently doing so with andoirds.
I think Raven's body may have also been incompatible to fuse with Adam as she is too synthetic. Look at how previous combination attempts such as Orcal who was extremely cyberized didn't quite work. Remember how Tachy was mostly flesh (she even had a natural bone and only one or maybe two small metal cables/conduits) on the inside but Raven was more machine with some meat mixed in (probably muscle, and outer most layer of skin of course). Adam also remarks that EVE had the most unisonous body ever. That meaning "in unison or in harmony" which i think is to say that her body was the closet to "human" albeit without original human DNA (yet), and that she would be the best match to him.
I think it has to do more with Raven being emotionally devastated by the fact that she has been lied to her entire life, changing her to seek revenge. She practically decided that her life up to that point was a fake, and would go on a rampant crusade to get rid of the 'fakeness' meaning eliminating Mother Sphere and everything she created, which is clearly not Adam wanted.
Raven is just too flawed. Can you imagine the devastation she would cause if she gained the power Eve gained by fusing with Adam?
I think what all of you are saying could all be true. Raven is just not psychologically sound. She’s also an older model so her body needs more tech evidently, though still leagues beyond what the people of Xion have. All of that makes her not as suitable.
@@A.R.T.4 I agree. I think we are all right.
I had to google unisonous when Adam said it in the Nest... haha. There is an item description in the game that states how before war times, humanity was using semiconductor technology to steer technology towards singularity of human / machine harmony. I think you're right in that Adam wants/needs a more harmonious physical body as well as a socio/emotionally well being individual - advanced in all ways as EVE was
Dude first thanks so much for the video
Second, it's really exciting to think about how this can become a new ip after a long time with only sequels to existing ip's
I'm both interested is a sequel but also in a prequel.
Think about how in braking bad and better call Saul, both are in the same universe relatively close to eachother in time but every one has their own themes and ideas.
So I'd love to see a prequel about " adam" and it's not have to be even a combat heavy game it could be about different ideas and gameplay
I think a prequel of the final war would be great. But it would be cool to play as both factions. I really hope Shift Up gets green lit to expand on this universe with sequels, prequels, etc.
I trusted adam at the end mostly because he gave lily stuff to repair xion
Yes with some pretty sweet telekinetics too
the hero's journey just like the youtube murder drone where Uzi shows a presentation on the hero's journey
Nice comment - just discovered their YT channel and love it.
my conclusion ended up in a similar place as when i finished reading / watching blade runner - if the elements of humanity are present, the vessel does not really matter. Eve looks like a human, can speak and has empathy. Does that not make her human despite the shell? 100 hours of this game I got the platinum trophy, i’m looking forward to some DLC or shift’s next project with optimism
Dang congratulations on the platinum. It still eludes me. I agree. I am looking forward to what's next from Shift Up. Yea, the idea bout having empathy I believe is really important.
@@unlistednaytiba It was a grind for sure, I think because of how new the game is guides haven’t really been ironed out so even they don’t help too much. Who would have thought finding cans and fishing would be the hardest part of this game 😂
Good to see an analysis that didn’t dismiss Stellar Blade’s story straight away.
A little bit of context.
Life in South Korea isn’t as glamorous as their media exports. Koreans fight against impossible odds and overwhelming chaebols/consortiums on a daily basis.
Just like most Korean games, Stellar Blade is a reflection on the South Korean society. It’s literally in the face, Samsung means 3 stars, and there’s a Tetrastar Electronic in game.
Korean works like Parasite and Squid Game, all share this higher context. While there’s enough drama to satisfy audiences even with knowledge about the Korean society, they aren't as shallow as they first appears.
Great comment. I did hear about the chaebols and wanted to look into this more. You are the second person who has commented about them in some of my videos. Yes, Parasite and Squid Game are some great examples of this higher context you mention.
I need to test those advanced physics on my PC.
Hopefully coming soon. Yes the physics are always good in this game :)
Question?!?! So who was Bombing the Mother Spehere Angel Ships at the Begining of the Game ? Like I'm confused on that part
The giant energy ball spitting naytiba form (right after Tachy pulls EVE from her pod, EVE looks up and then the next scene is what is shooting at the spaceships).
14:36 When and which mission happened this?
Oh this is a side quest in Xion. Go to the area across from where you walk up the stairs to Roxanne. There will be a person pretending to need help. Talk to him, then they will start this mission. Enjoy it.
IMHO, I only wished the game did a better job delivering on those themes as you have described so well in this vid. I didn't feel Eve's progression to becoming more human as much as someone asks her to do something, then she goes to do it.
Appreciate the deep dive into the game's lore and themes. You're the rare person who actually tried to dissect the story as opposed to regurgitate what was already written and shown.
Wow, I appreciate your comment. Yeah I think they can only get better with hopeful sequels. Glad to have your comment here.
Raven = Main antagonist
MotherSphere = Greater Scope Villain
Adam/ Raphael Marks = Overarching antagonist
I refuse to believe that any other ending fits the story except for "Return to the Colony". It perfectly sets up the story for a sequel and frees Eve from both Mother Sphere & Raphael Marks. Both of them are evil and I don't understand how anyone could think otherwise. The character that truly deserves a redemption arc is Raven. She is the one who suffered the most because of Raphael. It would be really cool to see her and Eve join together in the sequel to create a faction of enlightened Andro-Eidos that can take on Mother Sphere and maybe even find a cure to reverse the Naytiba experiments. The possibilities are endless with Returning to the Colony. Lastly, if Adam wanted to be apart of Eve so badly, why didn't he just sacrifice his essence to Lily by having her create a super weapon made of himself? It was already established that Lily can do this with Tachy mode. Why did he HAVE to merge with Eve and take away her identity; especially when Eve is finally starting to understand who she is? It's ridiculous and a fat slap to the face to have us follow the story of Eve becoming human-like in order to support mankind to then have that taken away by merging with this pathetic pseudo-savior. Adam had two chances to make things right and failed both times. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Let Eve stand on her own merits.
I’m not a fan of the fusing would’ve preferred Eve to stay as an Android .. now she’s just a OP character… i do hope we get more Raven for the next game she’s still out there
I can see MS using Raven and upgrading her, but somehow controlling her.
Great video
Hell Yea. Appreciate you letting me know.
17:15 dang he didn't press the button. 😂
Haha. year, I anted to see what would happen. Good catch :)
The ending gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes.
Really hoping we get a GITS crossover outfit that Shift Up makes.
Man, you are the best. I wish I knew your channel before the best channel you talk about Stellar blade Thanks for your efforts🔥👍🥸❤️
Heck yea. There will be more Stellar Blade videos coming soon now that the Niew Automata DLC was announced.
@@unlistednaytiba I'm so excited
Still hoping to hear krato's raspy voice. Btw i felt sorry that our expectations that Tachy & Eve will fight again side by side didn't happen. Hope to see a prequel version pf this game how Tachy & Eve train together. Also prequel for Adam, Oracle eap. Raven how she changed. Still anticipating Krato's voice though. Huehuw😁
Oh hell yeah, I remember how you made me laugh with your other comment. Yeah Tachy and EVE not battling together one more time :(
great ideas you have for a prequel
Doesn’t say anything that other Meta hasn’t already said, Thanks for the video though
What movie is this clip from? 12:16
Stellar Blade Bibi Eve music video
Raven going mad and becoming broken made her unworthy of Adam's grand design.
Agreed.
Ye the story isn't too bad as so many people claim IMO.
Yes, and I believe they could flesh it out more with sequels. It's pretty good when compared to the first games of other long-standing franchises/series.
Anyone else notice that Eve's hands look, odd? After merging with Adam they look so red to me and i dunno if its just me or what that could mean.
Had to go back and watch. Don't look too red to me. Maybe just the lighting in those couple of scenes?
loved the video :)
i always stumble over the adroid part
because from what i always learned :
adroid = humanoid robot(machine).
2B would be like this no flesh just machine (looking like a human)
Cyborg = human/machine hybrid.
Eve on other hand isn't just machine, Eve is a hybbrid so should be a cyborg not android right ?
also because she is the best fusion of both machine and flesh she is also why she is the best option to fuse with adam
i mean theres a reason one is called android, the other cyborg right ? as means to tell the difference of what they are machine or a hybrid of the 2
Yes there's a lot of confusion over the semantics of the terminology used - and then you bring in humanity and humankind - it gets confusing cause you don't know if they're referring to real organic humans or the andro-eidos after they were given the title of humankind.
Do we have any idea about Lily's timeline?
@darcrequiem stated it nicely in a comment to a different video. Perhaps they can do so again here
Great video, I need to know some thing. Is Adam the only remaining human? And are all the humans in Zion and in the game just androids who believe they are human? The same way that Eve thinks she is human?
My thought is that he is the only organic human being. Everyone else is andro-eidos. I'm dropping a video later this morning sharing my thoughts about this :) Glad to have you here.
I wonder where was the stellar blade title attached to the story. Would it be the angel blade she got when she fused with Adam 🤔
I think she is the figurative "blade" that fell from the stars. Her blade is called the Blood Edge, Raven's is the Cryo Blade... I cannot remember what Tachy's blade is, but hers is probably a tachyon blade, similar to the blades on the Providence exosuit. In terms of the blade she uses when she is in her final form, I'm not sure of that one.
Yep Tachy's is Tachyion. Also, you have a point, Eve's new form could be the stellar blade. Cuz Angel and they're from the sky. Probably. 🤣🤔
Honestly when I took Adam's hand I thought I would get the bad ending 😅
It seems like the more logical choice right?
This may sound weird but after Eve and Adam's fusion does Eve technically become a hermaphrodite? Adam as fully organic human would presumably still have sperm, Eve being the most advanced and human-like android has genitals (we can see her cameltoe) but since she had no human DNA she doesn't have eggs and cannot sexually reproduce like organic humans but after their fusion she got human DNA from Adam and thus thru some means unknown to me she may have gained egg cells and also sperm cells from Adam. Thus she could self-fertilise her eggs with Adams sperm and become pregnant and birth a new race of superhumans.
Definitely a possibility - curious how Shift Up would explain something like that in their sequels.
Well, her being completely mechanical I don't think she would gain the ability to produce female eggs from adam. I think the fusion is more along the lines of his essence and power going into her but nothing physical remains of adam. She said she was the same Eve when speaking to Lily. Theoretically I guess she does have actual DNA now, her wing is organic. but adam was already a Naytiba so he wasn't exactly a normal human anymore anyway lol looking at the nest there were eggs and naytiba being born before our eyes even before the fusion. Even naytiba that we never saw outside of the nest. So it looked like Adam had the ability to create new naytiba already in some manner. At least I predume it was him. There's a lot left unclear about what was happening there. But assuming Adam could already do it, Even could probably create new ones as well but I doubt it would be through pregnancy and birth.
Started the video and immediately had to stop to listen to Everglow (the song when riding the orbital elevator) 🤣
Heck yea. That moment was awesome. My favorite music moment though was Raven. I was getting my butt kicked over and over but I was grooving to the k-pop/edm song. haha.
As a warning, this comment is going to contain spoilers for the other ending of the game (not taking Adam's hand).
The one issue I had with the way the game resolved the other ending is that the run-up to the climax paints it like you're about to get a 'good' ending before it pulls the rug out from under you. What I mean is, Adam tells Eve to join with him and create a new future for everyone, but he's not giving her much agency at all in how he lays out the goal of the fusion. He paints it like an all-or-nothing deal, which to be fair to him, it is. However, when you refuse to take Adam's hand, Eve states that no matter how bloody the hands are of either Mother Sphere or of Adam, she wants the freedom to make this last choice on her own terms.
I was expecting this to be what opened the way up for a third option that threaded the needle between joining either Adam or Mother Sphere (since Eve finally has agency for herself), but instead it just pivots to Eve and Lily obediently going back to the colony with Mother Sphere, which felt like an off note to me. I get what the story was going for thematically, in that Eve refusing to continue the cycle of bloodshed - her "mission" - was more important than her gaining full autonomous agency in every respect (i.e., compassion is more vital to being human than pure self-interest), but I feel like there was a way to bridge the gap there a bit more elegantly.
On the other hand, it gives me an actual reason to go for the "true" ending in NG+, so I'll take it. Cheers for the thoughtful analysis, as always.
Totally feel ya. I did not get the ending where EVE goes back to the colony... playing NG+ and will choose that one just to see it. Great to hear your thoughts.
I think an easy fix for rejecting Adam's hand ending is that Adam was unaware actual humans were hiding elsewhere on Earth. Lily said there was still more things to do (e.g., go back to Xion to insert the hyper cell) but Eve wanted to ask Mother Sphere questions first. So presumably (hopefully), Eve and Lily can still return to Xion after asking Mother Sphere questions. At the end of the credits, it says their journey to find the truth continues. I personally feel like this is a better setup for a sequel instead of the true ending. A sequel for the true ending will turn the game into a worse Star Wars because the world building in Star Wars is way better than in Stellar Blade.
@@unlistednaytiba Thanks! It's an interesting ending, and in my opinion the boss fight (which is different) is one of the best in the game. I think you'll enjoy it. Hope you're having a great weekend!
also, was the liberation war the name of the war between humans and androids
Yes you are correct. However, I go back and forth on who was being liberated. I'm not quite sure. Part of me thinks that real organic human beings created androids more as service or slave-like droids, and so the androids were being liberated by Mother Sphere. However, we know that the humans who fled underground were the Humanity Liberation Front as seen in the RAFFY log data documents.
How can humans find and save Orcal if they are extinct. And how could Eve learn about humanity in Cion through other Ando Eidos androids?
some of the andro-eidos humans survived the colony extinction event.
There is a gigantic plot hole in the story: I also think, that the Airborne Squad dives yearly and Lily spend TWO years in her landing pod…as she mentions after the Gigas battle in the end of Eidos 7. BUT: If you play Eidos 9 and learn about her colleague Iberis…Lily NOW mentions she is the colleague, who survived as well, but died ONE year ago. So how could Lily put here in the capsule, create the secret hideout while being imprisoned in the landing pod for TWO years and probably never left it at all after crashing on the surface? That doesn’t make sense at all. Lily couldn’t have flight around with the landing pod like a spaceship neither. Very sad, that THIS wasn’t thought out at all. Otherwise great game! But even if the squads dive every 10 years…the fact that Lily spend the last TWO years in a pod but put Iberis in her flowergrave ONE year ago doesn’t make any sense. By the way…Iberis looks like Lily but with long hair…maybe the same production line (of androids).
Maybe Lily could have just lied, since we need to have 100% of friendship with her so she can tell her secret.
So when Eve meets her and has 0% she just doesn't say what she's been doing on earth this whole time.
@@lovelyvibes5273No she wasn’t lying…but even so…Lily was definitely trapped in this landing pod and was rescued by Eve after the boss fight. So the secret level story is and remains unfortunately a plot hole. That’s very sad because I like the music and the atmosphere there the most…only the developer can clear that up. Even if Lily would have said she was trapped in the pod for 6 months…the pod is only for landing…and not flying around the planet…the contradiction remains 🙁
Is flying the only way to get to Eidos 9? I thought there was water surrounding it. Couldn't she just have just used one of those hover bikes to get there? And what's stopping her from finding a ship, making a trip to Eidos 9, and returning back to the crater where the pod landed? I have to push back on this because I'm not sure if it's a plot hole@@Erdadler
@@alexsanimeart5706 Doesn’t make sense, because she mentioned she was TRAPPED TWO years in the pod. She never traveled back and forth. Otherwise the first meeting with Eve should have been in another way…but Lily was freed from the landing pod she was in for TWO years. And there is no further explanation how that’s the case when she hang out with Iberis ONE year ago…I wished there was an explanation, but that can only be explained by the developer.
I was confused too. The cutscene makes us initially think Lily was in that pod for 2 years. However, Adam talks about the hideout which actually refers to where Iberis and Lily stayed. Most likely Lily just went to the pod to send the distress signal so the 7th airborne squad can find her but there was an Alpha Naytiba nearby so she took cover in the pod for safety.
Is it just me or did Raven's description imply Adam had Sex with Her? Also can Andro Eidos have physical kids? Still unclear on that
Oh dang. I missed that. Gotta go back and check. As for the kids thing, after watching the BIBI music video, it seems that Andro Eidos are also grown somehow organically with "android" or "machine" portions also fused or implemented somehow. So perhaps they do have organic components somewhere. But not sure about the kids. I remember reading in one of the gear descriptions that the bodyframes originally had only one design/model, and the reason they get their differences in facial features, hair, etc. is because the nanotechnology interprets their character traits. So I think they all are produced or birthed at the full adult size and not really born as babies.
I am really happy this video exists, the story of stellar blade is truly amazing and genuinely overlooked by so many, I do understand it also doesn't tell its story in a usual way but I still think that shouldn't take away from what narrative it is trying to tell, im genuinely hyped for what games we could get. The way this games story was presented allows for us to even potentially get a prequel Raven game or something about the colony extinction
Your comment is really appreciated. I agree. Getting a prequel with some Raven content or even the Final War's lead up to the colony extinction would be great to experience and also flesh out the overall story.
I am a little bit confused? Aren't the people in cryo the old humanity and Eve is helping the Androids become the new humanity with her evolution.
By "Cryo" do you mean in the Cradle? My interpretation was that they are in the cradle to help power XION (their body cells can give a tiny portion of power to keep Xion alive). Also, older or weaker people are placed in the cradle first so to protect them from Naytiba. The understanding is that once Adam finds enough hyper cells, he can restore power and the people in the cradle can be revived. So in addition to his biblical name symbolizing his ability to give life when he fuses with EVE, he is also giving life to the people in the cradle by finding hyper cells. And ever person in the game, with the exception of Adam and Mother Sphere, is Andro-Eidos. The angels are andro-eidos, but a more advanced version used as weapons.
@@unlistednaytiba that's an interesting theory I just thought it was there's not enough power to wake everyone up. I also figured that everyone in the city is are humans with the exception of a few Androids here and there or drones. The wiki for Stellar blade does seem to have different categories for humans and Androids like Eve. Though that is not by itself enough information.
I got the secret/true ending on my first playthrough. Speed running to get the bad ending cause I know it's about to be some bullshit. I'm just doing it for the potential trophy to get all endings. I really do love the true ending. Eve leading the new wave of humanity, but still has to fight to prove her worthiness. And Mother Sphere is going to stop anyways. And I don't know how the Good Ending (Return to the colony) is good. Eve continues to be a pawn for Mother Sphere after finding out the truth? Screw that. I haven't got that ending, but that's what it sounds like
That's the bad ending. The good ending is where lily dies because Xion still gets saved
That means you were a good friend to Lily :)
So if it all adds up, Stellar Blade 2 will be war with Mother Sphere?
Depending on which ending they decide is canon it seems that that’s a strong possibility
Yeah and we get some gameplay on the Colony. Since the Colony is so vast, hopefully we get to see some really far out there concepts that Mother Sphere has cooked up on the Colony.
I just don't get how if you're fighting the nativez during the whole game how in the end you're supposed to fuse with the boss of the nativez as a solution to carry on the world of humanity So Adam wants these disgusting life forms that are trying to kill everything in sight to continue on?
Just him tho cause he was the only successful evolution of one that didn't have unrelenting hostility towards andro-eidos.
I noticed that Raven and Eve's relationship with Adam are very opposite with Raven there's was honesty but no trust and faith while with Eve there was trust and faith but no honesty.
Raven cared strongly about Adam because he's closest thing to honesty to her, after all she learned that her life, her identity and her mission have has been a complete lie and working for Adam also meant that Raven had to accept the bitter fact that her comrades died for nothing.
They could've saved Humanity a long time ago but the bond between them failed because Raven's instability made her hateful and difficult to reason since she doesn't understand why Eve was chosen aswell as Adam noticing that the truth made Raven lose her compassion, it's possible that since Raven became a Naytiba on her own she rejected the fusion because it came at the cost of losing him and doesn't want to be obligated in protecting Xion and the people.
Eve on the other trusted Adam for saving her and also helping her learn more about the very world she has never set foot on while also encounter and helping different people even though the whole time Adam was risking his life hiding his true identity while using Eve's mission to show her and Lily the dark truth of Mother Sphere.
So Raven's lack of faith and trust in Adam has rendered her alone, crippled and unforgiven for her actions while Eve in the true ending comes to understand that Adam still had the best of intentions despite the circumstances and agrees to fuse with him to save everyone from Mother Sphere's goal to replace and redefine humanity.
Yes I think you are right. There is something within the Naytiba where if the fusion is accepted, then it proliferates into something good (like a true bond). If there is some type of rejection involved, the fusion does not work correctly and you see a shell Naytiba come about (such as Raven's black unlisted naytiba shell and Adam's white shell if EVE rejects him)
I do like how you noticed the opposite-relationship of Raven and EVE
Wait. What?! Adam is Marks??? It says he tells her this… but when??? I just finished the game and I don’t remember this 😭
Adam never explicitly says, "I was Raphael Marks", but there is a lot of evidence of this. It says in Adam's character description. Also, while in the Nest, Adam tells EVE everything started with him. This means that when he was Raphael Marks he created Mother Sphere like back around 2042ish.
Envy 5th of the 7 deadly sins.
So basically raven was right
A little bit of humanity gained from everyone in EVE's life on earth. In terms of Raven, I think the big takeaway is that EVE sees the humanity lost in her and also Raven had a lack of others to provide her with humanity and support. But EVE gets that from her relationship with the people of the game.
@@unlistednaytiba are you for or against mother sphere?
I definitely think people who didn’t pay attention are blinded into thinking “oh I have to follow my instructions until the end, Adam is the villain” and totally missing the point. 😅 (Aside from the fact that the tagline of the game is to “save humanity from extinction” and your orders were to capture him, not kill him.)
I’d categorize Adam as a Chaotic Neutral character. He’s a good guy, but not a stereotypical superhero in a cape. He’s highly intelligent and well-intentioned but clumsy and made mistakes.
A bit selfish, but he has a guilty conscience unlike a true villain like Mother Sphere. I also don’t think Raven has much of a guilty conscience… She put Tachy in some sort of Naytiba cocoon simply to torture Eve.
Also considering she was okay with nuking Xion and killing their Leader all in the hopes of tampering with the Cradle to stop Adam and Eve from creating a new dawn of humanity.
But yeah, the point of the game is actually to question your instructions as soon as you land on Eidos 7. 😂 That’s what I did. Just like 10 Memorysticks in, I was like “Hmm… This doesn’t feel right.” Then you get to Xion, do side quests and you’re like “This whole Mother Sphere thing DEFINITELY doesn’t feel right.”
The only plot hole I don’t quite get is how Lily could go around adventuring in Eidos 9 and be trapped in a pod for years if not decades or centuries. 😂
Great comment - I think Adam when he was Raphael Marks did a lot of bad stuff and now as Adam he really does take up penance and wants to atone for all the bad he did - primarily in creating Mother Sphere.
And people say the story is bad in this game!? The hell are they talking about?
you right. Great story
Anybody who thinks this game doesn't have a good story and or little potential for a sequel or no potential for a DLC are both blind and deaf!
Definitely ready for DLC & really hope we get a sequel(s)
Great
Awesome bro. appreciate your comment.
Isn’t everyone in Xion also andro eidos?
Yes you are correct. Everyone in the game except Adam is andro-eidos.
raven got the black wing like tachy its expose that eve is diffenet android, may be eve is NIKKE some part is human just like her brain
Yes I believe you are right. Did you see how Raven has "EVE" on her cape when she is in angel form? Still trying to figure out what this means.
Adam is definitely a villain. He created something that destroyed humanity. He's not a victim.
Appreciate your comment, I think it could be argued both ways with several different supporting factors to support each argument. Yes he created an ASI and played with the human genome to destroy humanity twice... haha (facepalm for Adam). I do think there is merit to saying he is being antagonized by Mother Sphere though, as once he is presented in the game, he is trying to makeup for his misdeeds.
Nah he's more complex than just being labeled a villain. He's flawed but he's trying to atone and save the world.
@@TheAnimeYoungin Mother Sphere is also trying to save the world
TO HappyDaddyKratos
What if... stellar blade 2' story is about multi-verse?
EVE is OP now.
I think we need another multi vision EVE. In that universe, EVE is not OP, Tarch is still alive.
My theory,
SB1 EVE wins to Mother Sphere, but Mother Sphere already killed everyone except EVE.
even, Mother Sphere is not destroyed permanently. So, EVE absorb Mother Sphere's essence.
SB1 EVE become like God. SB1 EVE, using her power, travel to the past to the era when Mother Sphere don't exit yet.
then, New universe, A parallel universe is created. SB2 world.
What do you think?
Sounds awful
@@themegatonmenace1224 LOL. Is that so?😅
Weakening Ultimate Eve seems complicated.
I like most of characters in this game.
but,
In general, build-up of most of characters cannot be considered successful.
I think it would be better to do a soft reset.
Multi-verse could get messy - just look at the MCU right now.
But I do think there's merit to your idea of mother sphere being absorbed. I had a thought that the point of the Angels is that Mother Sphere wants to keep iterating on them until she is satisfied with a highly advanced one and then she somehow puts her essence into that angel body. This could be a way that EVE has an foe to fight that she is not immediately at an advantage over (as you stated because EVE is super OP now).
@@unlistednaytiba thank you. I wanted to hear your thoughts.
In my theory, SB1 Eve is like Luke Skywalker, a retired god in SB2 world.
SB2 Eve is a new character that many people will like, and I hope she doesn't become OP.
There are two Eves in that universe,
SB1 Eve is in a situation where direct intervention is difficult for some reason.
Actually, it is like a Terminator story.
This is an issue caused by the lack of experience of the developers.
So I thought a soft reset might be a good idea.
So it is the story of two very different races, coming from a starting race in common, that through the union of a woman and a man will have a child that is a mixture, to symbolise peace between the two races. Nice.
So Raven tried with Adam, but her body probably wasn't as advanced as EVE's to accommodate a human baby, EVE on the other hand is advanced enough to even simulate ovulation? I believe it is a desperate attempt by the mother sphere to create a perfect individual, physically attractive, high-performing (even too much given the power of EVE) and also fertile.
I am curious as to what the relationship between Adam and Raven was like. Would be great to see if it could be explored with a prequel
Damn I fought Adam in my first play through, not really paying too much attention to the story and now I feel like a jackass! Lol
Haha. you got to see that reveal of the Colony though. Now you get to NG+ it up
@@unlistednaytiba True! I love the combat so much I was itching for a fight! Lol