Black armory will always be my favorite season. Why? the weapons were colored black. Edit: Just joking. Because the weapons themselves were worth getting and the curated ones, raid gear was hella good looking especially the for the Hunter class. Plus we got ourselves a nice exotic void bow, and a fusion rifle that gave us a solar homing Hadouken. Oh and I think Aztec forgot the major thing in SotW: We learned a new word, *Aiat*
Warmind was fun. Escalation Protocol with 9 people was crazy. I still remember how excited I was to get my Shotgun. But best of all. WHISPER OF THE WORM! That is pure Destiny to me. The morning started with one reddit post of a guy finding a portal during a public event and holy shit! Community went nuts, I sherpad so many people.
I feel like everyone keeps talking about Black Armory, Opulence and forsaken, but no one actually talks much about arrivals and chosen. Arrivals had a really great setup and Chosen did something I still think is amazing. It really made you feel like you were part of the story and I think no other season has come as high level as this. I loved it. The playlist was so good that it even became part of the core playlist, a new strike, the first alliance with Caiatl and it wasn't just an easy alliance. We earned our respect and now are actual allies and not "ohhh same enemy, lets be friends i guess". The loot was amazing to for the time. Frenzy came from it
@JTKing77 fair, but I don't really like Witherhoard anymore. I used to have it glued to my hands, but I kind if grew past it, inly using it for chip damage now which is niche at best. It is incredibly strong, I just like to use different stuff though
@@bleeperton He and many other destiny UA-camrs do this in a regular basis in different states of the game. It shouldn't be to anyone's surprise that cross is doing this again.
Black Armory to me always brings back great memories of the Hammerhead machine gun and what I consider to be the best Pulse Rifle ever (barring exotics), the Blast Furnace. Sunset weapons both now but great memories of those days.
Imo season of the haunted should be way higher the story was great the weapons were great I loved the location how we got a little mini planet with tons of secrets to explore.
Yeah Haunted is the one part of this list I take issue with. It should be at least A tier. We got free roam Leviathan. We got Duality. Solar 3.0. The return of the opulence weapons. Plus the usual two seasonal activities (sever and nightmare containment). And on top of it all, extra lore with Calus, Caiatl, Zavala, and Crow.
I actually take issue with his choice for season of plunder as well as haunted. Plunder brought arc 3.0 and the activity was pretty fun. I loved being yeeted from the first ship to the next one, and the mechanics were at least engaging. I liked the room where you threw explosives to blow up ether tanks, and the boss which would rotate between the captain and the shank. I think it's at least low A tier.
@@Colifin I started playing during Plunder, and even then I couldn't stand doing Ketchcrash and Expeditions. They were extremely dull. The only saving grace was Plunder's kick-ass soundtrack.
@@infinitedeath1384Sadly the story ended with a boring sigh. But yeah, the 6 man activities, arc3.0 and pretty fun weapons made the season pretty good.
@gargathulothhastur4981 the 6 man activities are awful. Plunder was one of the 3 worst seasons so far. Haunted was pretty bad too. The only thing that was good about it was the artifact mods.
For me best expansion was Forsaken but best seasons were Arrivals and Seraph. The fact the pyramid ships were in our system finally, deleting planets left and right “the Witness is here…oh shit” that was hype. Witherhoard was born, remember that Fortnite-like live event in the Tower? Everyone was trying to log in to see what was going on it was insane! Also came with an emblem you can’t get anymore obviously like take me back to those days. 😩 And Warmind…has to be the best story telling we’ve had in this game in terms of characters included, revealed and expanded. Rasputin was awake, we actually talked to him, Osiris and him actually revealed like D1 answers to lore that was basically gone. His relationship with Ana and the final cutscene… His death was trending that’s how much the community gave a damn about Rasputin. Things like these we just won’t have in the game anymore and it sucks man 😐
I still remember Haunted quite fondly. It was my onboarding point for Destiny as a whole, and with that in mind it worked as a great introduction to the characters and universe for me, not to mention the Solar 3.0 power fantasy and having the Leviathan destination to run around in to test it all out without much delay kept me pretty engaged. It's a shame Lightfall didn't use Calus very well cuz Haunted absolutely built him up to be one of my favorite love-to-hate-em type villains. Obviously, things like Classy Restoration from that season deserve criticism, but for someone that was focused on the PvE and learning the game, it was fun having the option to use something over-tuned like that for a bit.
I 100% agree. Season of the haunted is easily A tier. Not only were you able to roam Leviathan and explore it all round, but the public event was actually fun. Running around with a flaming scythe killing cabals left and right. Not to mention CRAFTED Calus Mini-Tool. Which also introduced Incandescent, and like you said Solar 3.0. Duality on launch was probably one of the most bugged dungeons/actives, though they did get fixed, the dungeon really set the bar high in terms of bringing damage and mechanical skill to JUST it being a DUNGEON. Heart shadow is an O K exotic sword, but nothing game changing stormchaser however... The story gameplay was a bit repetitive and reused a lot of the same area's, but I think the positives out weighs the negative.
I still miss the Leviathan as a patrol zone. Sometimes just turning my brain off and murdering a small army's worth of enemies is all I want to do, and the Leviathan gave me the ability to do so. Add in the random events with miniboss enemies and frequently-spawning Majors and I was having a blast just blasting enemies left, right, and center.
Risen in C is insanity. It was one of the most consistent seasons we’ve ever had. And it came out alongside an expansion, all of the others (undying, hunt and Defiance) were shit. Odds stacked against it and it beat them
Looking at these seasons plus expansions. Man I can’t imagine paying for the whole life cycle of this game, but I sure hope you guys made fond memories
Season of the haunted was probably one of my favorite seasons with solar 3.0, nightmare containment was really fun, some of the season weapons and armor were great, and the story was amazing but duality really bring it down for me. I completed that dungeon and haven't stepped foot in it since.
I really liked season of the seraph but people have to remember that it was the last season of that year and we did not get any new exotic armor pieces for that season. Season of the Lost, did get exotic armor pieces which was the previous year's season I really hope next season that we get exotic armor otherwise it's going to be a super long season
Only change I'd make is move Dawn to S tier. We got multiple cutscenes, story missions that were in addition to the seasonal activity, and awesome loot.
Season of arrivals was really nice, the set up for how big of a deal the pyramids coming into the system were was perfect, you felt that tension throughout. Not only that, I wasn’t really raiding in destiny 2, I was a bunch back in D1, but no one stuck around to raid in D2, and with this season they brought in farmable raids, yes it was the raids that were going away, but being able to grind them out a whole bunch over and over gave me that spark again for raiding. I feel everyone forgets about the farmable raids that season, it was very smart with on bungie, and we later got it with the weekly rotation system.
i liked the exploration of crow, zavala, and caitil’s characters but they weren’t top notch. The gear though? That and solar 3.0 are enough to push haunted into high B tier at least
Haunted’s story was the only good thing about it. All the other content was garbage, ESPECIALLY solar 3.0. AE and solar 3.0 have legitimately been worse for the health of the game that Curse of Osiris ever was.
that only matters if you care abt that i feel like people really don't understand that the story is secondary to some me being one of them or at least it's not big in my mind but that's just me tho
Fishing is amazing. I Was so excited when they put that mechanic in. Some days I don't want to go do raids and dungeons etc.. but I still want to play Destiny, and fishing is a lot of fun.
@@dredgenspace they made something entirely new with the pale heart using reused assets the haunted leviathan was barely changed apart from the spooky vibes, same layout and everything, and i didnt say it was bad, im not mad or anything that they did it, im just saying that putting a 95% unchanged destination back into thr gamr isnt super praise worthy
@@fallen5983 My bad, I see many people constantly spewing braindead shit like: It's recycled so it's bad. I thought you were one of those people due to how much I see this sentiment. And yeah I agree it's barely changed. I does deserve praise though because it was unique in terms of seasonal content. Battlegrounds are just worse strikes and we get them WAY too often. Haunted Leviathan was unique way to approach seasonal content and delivered a pretty decent destination with a good amount of secrets tucked away in small corners. Sure it's reused but they deserve praise for doing something creative for that season instead of the same battlegrounds slop especially since they did a good job and made the destination feel good. Again sorry for mistaking you for the "recycled = bad" crowd that's on me. BTW my comparison with the pale heart was because I thought you were part of the reused is bad crowd and so I pointed out that the pale heart technically has reused assets so you can just ignore that lol.
Curse Of Osiris at C tier is crazy lol other than now, that was the worst the state Destiny was in. They needed to call in almost all content creators to help them save the game from being shut down lol
chill bro the games not being shutdown we've been here before but i do feel the game will really be on it's last legs after Final Shape i see many ppl are already prepping to leave i mean the game's 10yrs old it's not that crazy and episodes is like whatever till it comes out and bungie doing marathon so no destiny3 as much as people think that's gonna happen but that's totally not happening XD
Not mentioning season of the haunted is a shame. I feel like if it had been talked about it would’ve been moved to B/low A. The story itself was slightly above average for seasons. Calus’s story was given way more depth in Season of the Haunted than in Lightfall which is pretty wild when comparing the fact Haunted was a season and Lightfall was a DLC. The Leviathan was one of the best and few places to come back (although yes temporarily) as a patrol area. On top of that it came with one of the best takes on public events for both gameplay AND loot. Something usually reserved for dungeons/raids/rotating exotic story missions.
I liked destiny 2 on launch. I really enjoyed the story and felt ready for more. Then I quit to play other games and luckily mised curse of osiris so my impression was never tainted.
I think cross forgot how good chosen was. It basically saved the year of beyond light. Banger story, three strikes added with one brand new one, presage with DMT, the helm, the return of focusing, battlegrounds with that enemy density everyone was begging for, some of the best legendary weapons at the time, and cuirass for titans.
I feel like so many people have forgotten that Black Armory was universally criticized in its first 2-3 weeks and would have launched with worse initial reception than Curse of Osiris if not for Scourge. Day 1 we got 1 forge with 3 black armory weapons, new crucible/gambit/vanguard pinnacle, and a few new general pool weapons. Most people couldn’t even do the forge and season intro quest day 1 because of it starting 25 light above forsaken cap. The majority of people came to a new season only to have to grind pinnacles to play the new content, of which was a single room/arena with killing enemies and throwing balls. Scourge managed to carry enough for more dedicated players but outside of that it was extremely rough. It eventually grew into something great as more of the time gated content rolled out, but people seem to have forgotten the extreme negativity that occurred during the season because of the good big picture.
With these Tier-lists, I always think "would there be differences if you start the other way round with the most recent things first", just to get to the nostalgia last and you can place them after the stuff that you actually remember well
Season of Dawn lowkey had the best Boss fight of any Destiny season in the game with Inotam, so much so that bosses are still copying its attacks to this day. Legend Sundial was 🔥🔥
Season of the drifter doesn't get enough love because of the ideas it introduced such as armor set bonuses as well as more defined roles in gameplay with armorsets. It was also a season focused on updating a core playlist. It was the first season that introduced the ideas of more indepth unique build crafting in Destiny 2. The only problem is it was attached to Gambit which had a mixed reception. It also had a core gameplay loop that utilized both PvE and PvP not only through Gambit Prime but also The Reckoning. The Crucible also got one of the best handcannons at the time which was spare rations. PvE got Outbreak Perfected as well Im pretty sure. Also a bunch of lore as well with the nine. If that level and amount of content was kept up and maintained, I feel like Destiny would be in a way better spot right now.
The worst part about these are I own literally all of them but only own the season pass rewards for like 4 of them. All because bungie rather make me lvl up my current season pass to lvl 268 instead of letting me lvl up a older season pass that a paid for but didn’t get anything for it!
Season of Dawn was absolutely S-tier. The most hyped I've ever been for a season, and the first one that made me commit to the game enough to earn a title.
Looking back i dont remember anything abt these seasons by name. I want a long form video covering it all. New weapons, exotics, events, story/cutscenes, metas, raids/strikes even gameplay system changes
Season of dawn is the only S tier season to ever exist The loot was amazing The mode was actually fun and could target loot The dawning was beautiful It had the last crimson days And the lore Omg nothing in the game has better lore than the completion of the perfect paradox Maybe it’s cuz it was my first season maybe it’s cuz I played curse of Osiris right before so the saint 14 lore was fresh in my mind maybe it’s cuz I was a new light but I’ve looked back several times And honestly that was peak destiny that was when the game was at its most fun And the corridors of time and again just the lore and how everything played out and the community event the whole season was just amazing Again season of dawn was PEAK destiny
Yeah... I still haven't played anything to do with 30th anniversary... I missed out on all of that bc I don't wanna pay for it after buying the year season pass Dawn is still my favorite season, mad respect for putting that in A
Season of the Deep had a dungeon so good that people hate: the bosses health being higher than raid bosses, the moth mechanic randomly doing more damage, shield mechanic making super damage or Arbalest mandatory, THE FUCKING TRANSITIONS being as long as encounters, the insanely long first encounter being Crown of Sorrow opening 2 - Lucent Hive edition The architecture is Throne World + water filter + moon gravity instead of the Arcology aesthetic that they never fully utilized Yeah man, good dungeon LULW
I think for a lot of people that they are not happy unless they are complaining. If you like something then who cares what others think of your decision to like it or not
@@ryanrobins945 ??? What event? If it had one it was a side thing and it doesn't drag down the quality of the story, the strike, the battlegrounds or the loot
I can't be on board with black armory being above dawn, seraph, splicer, and witch. It has got to move down to A. I also can't put curse of orisis anywhere other than bottom tier. That was the the game's lowest point. All other low points only feel close to as low or lower because of the higher expectations we've had since milestones like forsaken and witch queen.
im just saying, the people saying the price doesnt matter have to realize that mentality is why gaming as a whole is in turmoil. We get delay after delay to get half baked products because "eh why not, theyll buy it".. not trying to start conflict but price definitely matters
Chosen should be an A. Caital, ToO revamp, Presage, DMT and Ticuu’s, the H.E.L.M., the seasonal weapons like imperial needle, code duello, extraordinary rendition, and threaded needle, Battlegrounds, Proving Ground Strike, umbral engrams returning, the seasonal challenges model, etc.
For beyond light: Chosen should be S tier, id personally put splicer in S tier but that because I love the vex theme and those weapons but A tier would be fine. Lost would be B tier. Hunt would be low C or high D. But let me argue more for splicer: we had breach and clear, it was the last season of OP anarchy and warmind cells, same with double slug quick swap. We got ignition code, ticcus, we also got VoG that season even though I hate that raid now. Daddy Mithtax was a badass. It was just a great season all around.
i remember splicer fondly honestly not for the weapons or gameplay altho i still use my chroma rush but more so it was the first time i felt the need to grind in the 4yrs I've played d2 i didn't want to or feel the need or you could say i didn't see it as a grind it was fun mithrax was interesting i hadn't cared for the lore up until that point but then finding out the whole backstory of the eliksni and saint 14 was so interesting but also we killed tf out eliksni and they were enemies but they came to us in there time of need not what i expected
@@emmanuelwil-jeff Right! It was kinda filler story but at the same time not. Plus we also got to see Ikora do a classic Ikora Nova Bomb to nova warp within like 10 seconds. The vex network seasonal activity was really cool. Sure it wasn't the best activity but it was far better than wrathborn hunts or whatever we did in plunder.
I've been playing D2 on-and-off over the past years, reaching level cap and doing the new activities before going back to my normal game rotations. I think we can agree, Bungie has been making solid improvements to the game over the years (until recently, with the whole "firing half the squad" nonsense). Now, only if they gave up on their "fear of over-delivering" and gave us content that is actually good, instead of this Naruto-nonsense filler episode seasons.
I’d say it’s fair to put 30th Anni in Because all we really paid for was the dungeon. Considering we pay $20 for 2 dungeons now it makes sense. Besides if you rank that it’s only fair to rank the April update from D1 at least A tier since it was free
5:20 an objective comparison between Black Armory and Arrivals: What people liked in Black Armory - easy raid - easy loot that performed well - a puzzle that 90% of players just waited for the devs to open for them - seasonal activity is a brainless loop that everyone actively complained about and still does when Bonfire Bash comes around (its the exact same thing, kill group, throw ball at tower, don't even try to argue this) Arrivals - refreshed old fan favorite weapons and introduced some good new ones (Guillotine Witherhoard combo was more meta in its own season than anything from BA) - free dungeon for everyone - introduced the current focusing system - a seasonal activity that people actually enjoyed and was likely used to help freshen up the closest mode to said activity (gambit) Objectively speaking, Black Armory may have had arguably more content, but people remember it for the raid and weapons. That's all. Arrivals is hailed as one of the best seasons to this day, even despite its delay, which a delay would've killed Black Armory. Arrivals is better.
Very good tier list, not really mad about it. I think scourge was fun tho, mainly because of the open aspect of it. It felt fresh, as we had to navigate the complex architecture of the last city. Maybe if it was longer and a bit more difficult it would of slapped, but I thought is was a fun raid.
Beyond light was the breaking point for me. Aspect grind was crazy long and there was no loot. Everyone that I know stopped playing with that expansion. It was the beginning of the end of D2.
Hah, beyond light was my favourite expansion. It's the point where the game felt the most complete to me throughout all of Destiny's life as a franchise.
Season of the Haunted doesn't deserve to be that low! Weapons were / are great, best seasonal pass ornaments, nightmare containments really fun + unique environment and the story at least connected you more to the protagonists without having to read lore books...
No bullsh!t. It’s actually hella impressive, how MANY experiences Destiny 2 has given us. For all tha day to day/week to week flack that players give Bungie.. You gotta admit, no other game is give’n us as much variety & literal different sh!t to do as Destiny 2 has given. 👏🏾, Bungie.
Just throwing a random idea out there. What if cross did a ranking of all the trailers and reveal trailers for the expansions and seasons. Sounds silly but why not look back on why we played certain seasons and to look back and remember on the stuff we enjoyed from the seasons
Beyond light was really underrated. Stasis power fantasy was great. And you still had top dawn, chaos reach, bottom striker. 120 hc felwinter shatter dive. Got countered by le monarque. But eh no one remembers that.
Bro I remember one trials weekend. Endless vale god roll multi mach smg. Shatter dive nuke. Was so much fun. Then void 3.0 or whatever. Felt like nerf fights. Shotgun nerf, bruh horrible
I’d move a couple things but Destiny 2 is pretty consistent across the board there are the same amount of highs and lows a couple more above avg and then the same amount of below avg💀. Destiny 1 included then there are more highs and the above avgs than lows and below avgs
Part of the reason I co-sign with you about Beyond Light is due to the fact that it was made during the worse pandemic this country ever saw. They gave us a new planet with a shifting environment of all things, some awesome sandbox changes, our first darkness subclass, a pretty cool raid, and one banger of a soundtrack. Yeah there were some problem with it but the good far outweighs the bad.
statis goes hard went hard BL to me is statis and i actually like that it was like a new darkness subclass as well you could say this is the beginning of what we now know as the witness and even prior the pyramid ships was mysterious af and we knew nothing of significance so i think the lore was good hear but also i don't understand honestly why ppl hate BL as if to say it's the only bad season we've ever had :P
I always look at Black Armory fondly because it actually had rare exotics which was always my favourite thing about Destiny
I still have my kill clip/rampage/drop mag Kindled Orchid and it still works like a charm
Black armory will always be my favorite season. Why? the weapons were colored black.
Edit: Just joking. Because the weapons themselves were worth getting and the curated ones, raid gear was hella good looking especially the for the Hunter class. Plus we got ourselves a nice exotic void bow, and a fusion rifle that gave us a solar homing Hadouken.
Oh and I think Aztec forgot the major thing in SotW: We learned a new word, *Aiat*
the Forges were god awful but the weapons, still to this day, remain some of the best
The dopamine rush when I got an exotic simply does not exist anymore.
@@nnoottjjuussttiinn Aiat
Warmind was fun. Escalation Protocol with 9 people was crazy. I still remember how excited I was to get my Shotgun. But best of all. WHISPER OF THE WORM! That is pure Destiny to me. The morning started with one reddit post of a guy finding a portal during a public event and holy shit! Community went nuts, I sherpad so many people.
See looking back I kinda like this one now too
Im just hoping the final raid will have extra people like that public event had.
Osiris also gets fair hate but also it and base d2 campaigns were so fucking cool
Oh man the 9 man EP. I was on xbox one back then and dear God THE FRAMES
@@TripparSnippar LOL TRUE dude the frames were so bad I remember
I feel like everyone keeps talking about Black Armory, Opulence and forsaken, but no one actually talks much about arrivals and chosen.
Arrivals had a really great setup and Chosen did something I still think is amazing. It really made you feel like you were part of the story and I think no other season has come as high level as this. I loved it. The playlist was so good that it even became part of the core playlist, a new strike, the first alliance with Caiatl and it wasn't just an easy alliance. We earned our respect and now are actual allies and not "ohhh same enemy, lets be friends i guess". The loot was amazing to for the time. Frenzy came from it
Chosen pretty much saved the game post beyond light and all the loot we lost from sunsetting
❤ Code Duello and Extraordinary Rendition
@@XWillette0 oh yeah, unsunsetting also was a thing. This season is probably my favourite season with Black Armory
@JTKing77 fair, but I don't really like Witherhoard anymore. I used to have it glued to my hands, but I kind if grew past it, inly using it for chip damage now which is niche at best. It is incredibly strong, I just like to use different stuff though
I'm heavily biased in favor of Arrivals because it was a phenomenal season and my favorite weapon archetype was crazy broken during it
When you know there is a content drought in destiny
Fr, didn't he do this not too long ago
@@bleeperton He and many other destiny UA-camrs do this in a regular basis in different states of the game.
It shouldn't be to anyone's surprise that cross is doing this again.
Black Armory to me always brings back great memories of the Hammerhead machine gun and what I consider to be the best Pulse Rifle ever (barring exotics), the Blast Furnace. Sunset weapons both now but great memories of those days.
Same such good memories with those black armory weapons what a time
Imo season of the haunted should be way higher the story was great the weapons were great I loved the location how we got a little mini planet with tons of secrets to explore.
Yeah Haunted is the one part of this list I take issue with. It should be at least A tier. We got free roam Leviathan. We got Duality. Solar 3.0. The return of the opulence weapons. Plus the usual two seasonal activities (sever and nightmare containment). And on top of it all, extra lore with Calus, Caiatl, Zavala, and Crow.
I actually take issue with his choice for season of plunder as well as haunted. Plunder brought arc 3.0 and the activity was pretty fun. I loved being yeeted from the first ship to the next one, and the mechanics were at least engaging. I liked the room where you threw explosives to blow up ether tanks, and the boss which would rotate between the captain and the shank. I think it's at least low A tier.
@@Colifin I started playing during Plunder, and even then I couldn't stand doing Ketchcrash and Expeditions. They were extremely dull. The only saving grace was Plunder's kick-ass soundtrack.
@@infinitedeath1384Sadly the story ended with a boring sigh. But yeah, the 6 man activities, arc3.0 and pretty fun weapons made the season pretty good.
@gargathulothhastur4981 the 6 man activities are awful. Plunder was one of the 3 worst seasons so far. Haunted was pretty bad too. The only thing that was good about it was the artifact mods.
For me best expansion was Forsaken but best seasons were Arrivals and Seraph. The fact the pyramid ships were in our system finally, deleting planets left and right “the Witness is here…oh shit” that was hype. Witherhoard was born, remember that Fortnite-like live event in the Tower? Everyone was trying to log in to see what was going on it was insane! Also came with an emblem you can’t get anymore obviously like take me back to those days. 😩 And Warmind…has to be the best story telling we’ve had in this game in terms of characters included, revealed and expanded. Rasputin was awake, we actually talked to him, Osiris and him actually revealed like D1 answers to lore that was basically gone. His relationship with Ana and the final cutscene… His death was trending that’s how much the community gave a damn about Rasputin. Things like these we just won’t have in the game anymore and it sucks man 😐
Arrivals was dooky 🤣
I still remember Haunted quite fondly. It was my onboarding point for Destiny as a whole, and with that in mind it worked as a great introduction to the characters and universe for me, not to mention the Solar 3.0 power fantasy and having the Leviathan destination to run around in to test it all out without much delay kept me pretty engaged. It's a shame Lightfall didn't use Calus very well cuz Haunted absolutely built him up to be one of my favorite love-to-hate-em type villains. Obviously, things like Classy Restoration from that season deserve criticism, but for someone that was focused on the PvE and learning the game, it was fun having the option to use something over-tuned like that for a bit.
I 100% agree. Season of the haunted is easily A tier. Not only were you able to roam Leviathan and explore it all round, but the public event was actually fun. Running around with a flaming scythe killing cabals left and right. Not to mention CRAFTED Calus Mini-Tool. Which also introduced Incandescent, and like you said Solar 3.0. Duality on launch was probably one of the most bugged dungeons/actives, though they did get fixed, the dungeon really set the bar high in terms of bringing damage and mechanical skill to JUST it being a DUNGEON. Heart shadow is an O K exotic sword, but nothing game changing stormchaser however... The story gameplay was a bit repetitive and reused a lot of the same area's, but I think the positives out weighs the negative.
I still miss the Leviathan as a patrol zone. Sometimes just turning my brain off and murdering a small army's worth of enemies is all I want to do, and the Leviathan gave me the ability to do so. Add in the random events with miniboss enemies and frequently-spawning Majors and I was having a blast just blasting enemies left, right, and center.
Unfortunately Calus suffered from character assassination by the writers.
Risen in C is insanity. It was one of the most consistent seasons we’ve ever had. And it came out alongside an expansion, all of the others (undying, hunt and Defiance) were shit. Odds stacked against it and it beat them
and the saladin lore cutscenes were so good. the story was good. Definitely my favorite season
Looking at these seasons plus expansions. Man I can’t imagine paying for the whole life cycle of this game, but I sure hope you guys made fond memories
It’s been a Loooooong journey. Some ups and some downs but overall I’m happy with it!
Season of the haunted was probably one of my favorite seasons with solar 3.0, nightmare containment was really fun, some of the season weapons and armor were great, and the story was amazing but duality really bring it down for me. I completed that dungeon and haven't stepped foot in it since.
I really liked season of the seraph but people have to remember that it was the last season of that year and we did not get any new exotic armor pieces for that season. Season of the Lost, did get exotic armor pieces which was the previous year's season
I really hope next season that we get exotic armor otherwise it's going to be a super long season
haunted was A tier for me amazing story, atmospheric area and missions to explore, duality, opulence weapons, solar 3.0
Don't understand how they're sleeping on haunted this hard. Amazing story (although I wouldn't put it in A)
Haunted was a pure banger and solar 3.0 has me playing this game more than any other time.
Haunted was boring af, only thing good was duality and opulence weapons
Shadow Keep underrated. It brought many background changes that no one gives praise to.
Only change I'd make is move Dawn to S tier. We got multiple cutscenes, story missions that were in addition to the seasonal activity, and awesome loot.
I think biggest issue with beyond light was sunsetting. It’s hard to look back on it and not see how bad that was. Great Raid though
It was a relatively small expansion, second smallest year expansion after the Shadowkeep
Season of the splicer was fire
Season of arrivals was really nice, the set up for how big of a deal the pyramids coming into the system were was perfect, you felt that tension throughout. Not only that, I wasn’t really raiding in destiny 2, I was a bunch back in D1, but no one stuck around to raid in D2, and with this season they brought in farmable raids, yes it was the raids that were going away, but being able to grind them out a whole bunch over and over gave me that spark again for raiding. I feel everyone forgets about the farmable raids that season, it was very smart with on bungie, and we later got it with the weekly rotation system.
The deep dungeon was sold separately and not with the season itself, so it does not count as seasonal content but has the theme of the season
Warlock main... _and_ Gambit main... _THIS_ is why we love you, Cross.
Haunted in c is insane. The storytelling was top notch.
Haunted is better than arrivals
i liked the exploration of crow, zavala, and caitil’s characters but they weren’t top notch.
The gear though? That and solar 3.0 are enough to push haunted into high B tier at least
@saeber6630 and that's good it's B tier, A tier if duality wasn't separate paid
Haunted’s story was the only good thing about it. All the other content was garbage, ESPECIALLY solar 3.0. AE and solar 3.0 have legitimately been worse for the health of the game that Curse of Osiris ever was.
that only matters if you care abt that i feel like people really don't understand that the story is secondary to some me being one of them or at least it's not big in my mind but that's just me tho
Thank you. A lot of people think Beyond Light was trash but I disagree. I thought it was a great dlc especially compared to Shadowkeep before it.
Fishing is amazing. I Was so excited when they put that mechanic in. Some days I don't want to go do raids and dungeons etc.. but I still want to play Destiny, and fishing is a lot of fun.
This is probably the most Ill EVER agree with Cross on a tier list, well done
Season of the lost had particle deconstruction I think it was called, souly because of that I'd put it in S. It was so busted and fun.
Man I was chasing vex hard that season only to get vex 3 months ago 😂
@starkraven1148 F. You have my condolences 🙏
Can I just say the ending music is always a banger!
There is no universe where you can convince me that haunted deserves to be in C tier we got a whole destination and everything.
real
the destination in question wasnt exactly new tho
@@fallen5983 That's not the point, the destination was fun and engaging. Reused does not = bad. The Pale Heart reuses many assets and it's a banger.
@@dredgenspace they made something entirely new with the pale heart using reused assets the haunted leviathan was barely changed apart from the spooky vibes, same layout and everything, and i didnt say it was bad, im not mad or anything that they did it, im just saying that putting a 95% unchanged destination back into thr gamr isnt super praise worthy
@@fallen5983 My bad, I see many people constantly spewing braindead shit like: It's recycled so it's bad. I thought you were one of those people due to how much I see this sentiment. And yeah I agree it's barely changed. I does deserve praise though because it was unique in terms of seasonal content. Battlegrounds are just worse strikes and we get them WAY too often. Haunted Leviathan was unique way to approach seasonal content and delivered a pretty decent destination with a good amount of secrets tucked away in small corners. Sure it's reused but they deserve praise for doing something creative for that season instead of the same battlegrounds slop especially since they did a good job and made the destination feel good. Again sorry for mistaking you for the "recycled = bad" crowd that's on me. BTW my comparison with the pale heart was because I thought you were part of the reused is bad crowd and so I pointed out that the pale heart technically has reused assets so you can just ignore that lol.
Curse Of Osiris at C tier is crazy lol other than now, that was the worst the state Destiny was in. They needed to call in almost all content creators to help them save the game from being shut down lol
Faction Rallies, Saint-14 side mission, Perfect Paradox, Eater of Worlds, Mercury weapons, and Sagira's Shell all beg to differ.
should be F CoO was horrible
chill bro the games not being shutdown we've been here before but i do feel the game will really be on it's last legs after Final Shape i see many ppl are already prepping to leave i mean the game's 10yrs old it's not that crazy and episodes is like whatever till it comes out and bungie doing marathon so no destiny3 as much as people think that's gonna happen but that's totally not happening XD
@@emmanuelwil-jeff no at the time of CoO is was a possibility. It was BAD
@@RohanSpartin eater of worlds takes one point away. the first encounter was addclear...
Not mentioning season of the haunted is a shame. I feel like if it had been talked about it would’ve been moved to B/low A. The story itself was slightly above average for seasons. Calus’s story was given way more depth in Season of the Haunted than in Lightfall which is pretty wild when comparing the fact Haunted was a season and Lightfall was a DLC. The Leviathan was one of the best and few places to come back (although yes temporarily) as a patrol area. On top of that it came with one of the best takes on public events for both gameplay AND loot. Something usually reserved for dungeons/raids/rotating exotic story missions.
I liked destiny 2 on launch. I really enjoyed the story and felt ready for more. Then I quit to play other games and luckily mised curse of osiris so my impression was never tainted.
I think cross forgot how good chosen was. It basically saved the year of beyond light. Banger story, three strikes added with one brand new one, presage with DMT, the helm, the return of focusing, battlegrounds with that enemy density everyone was begging for, some of the best legendary weapons at the time, and cuirass for titans.
I agree with the vast majority of the list. The only two changes that I personally would make would be moving deep to A and haunted to B.
I feel like so many people have forgotten that Black Armory was universally criticized in its first 2-3 weeks and would have launched with worse initial reception than Curse of Osiris if not for Scourge. Day 1 we got 1 forge with 3 black armory weapons, new crucible/gambit/vanguard pinnacle, and a few new general pool weapons. Most people couldn’t even do the forge and season intro quest day 1 because of it starting 25 light above forsaken cap. The majority of people came to a new season only to have to grind pinnacles to play the new content, of which was a single room/arena with killing enemies and throwing balls. Scourge managed to carry enough for more dedicated players but outside of that it was extremely rough. It eventually grew into something great as more of the time gated content rolled out, but people seem to have forgotten the extreme negativity that occurred during the season because of the good big picture.
With these Tier-lists, I always think "would there be differences if you start the other way round with the most recent things first", just to get to the nostalgia last and you can place them after the stuff that you actually remember well
Yeah they REALLY helped handcannons in shadowkeep when the shafted the crit multiplier😀
Looking at this list you see destiny has actually been doing pretty solid through its life time. Mostly above average.
Season of Dawn lowkey had the best Boss fight of any Destiny season in the game with Inotam, so much so that bosses are still copying its attacks to this day. Legend Sundial was 🔥🔥
Season of the drifter doesn't get enough love because of the ideas it introduced such as armor set bonuses as well as more defined roles in gameplay with armorsets. It was also a season focused on updating a core playlist. It was the first season that introduced the ideas of more indepth unique build crafting in Destiny 2. The only problem is it was attached to Gambit which had a mixed reception. It also had a core gameplay loop that utilized both PvE and PvP not only through Gambit Prime but also The Reckoning. The Crucible also got one of the best handcannons at the time which was spare rations. PvE got Outbreak Perfected as well Im pretty sure. Also a bunch of lore as well with the nine. If that level and amount of content was kept up and maintained, I feel like Destiny would be in a way better spot right now.
30th anniversary should be a tier tbh. Ghorn, dares, grasp is a pretty good dungeon, and the dares weapons are pretty good
Thx for the thumb nail build at the start
The worst part about these are I own literally all of them but only own the season pass rewards for like 4 of them. All because bungie rather make me lvl up my current season pass to lvl 268 instead of letting me lvl up a older season pass that a paid for but didn’t get anything for it!
Season of Dawn was absolutely S-tier. The most hyped I've ever been for a season, and the first one that made me commit to the game enough to earn a title.
Imagine if they could release all of the past season activities all at once. Like a type of rotation based activity with season loot.
Looking back i dont remember anything abt these seasons by name. I want a long form video covering it all. New weapons, exotics, events, story/cutscenes, metas, raids/strikes even gameplay system changes
Season of dawn is the only S tier season to ever exist
The loot was amazing
The mode was actually fun and could target loot
The dawning was beautiful
It had the last crimson days
And the lore
Omg nothing in the game has better lore than the completion of the perfect paradox
Maybe it’s cuz it was my first season maybe it’s cuz I played curse of Osiris right before so the saint 14 lore was fresh in my mind maybe it’s cuz I was a new light but I’ve looked back several times
And honestly that was peak destiny that was when the game was at its most fun
And the corridors of time and again just the lore and how everything played out and the community event the whole season was just amazing
Again season of dawn was PEAK destiny
For me as well, Dawn is S tier. It was one of the best times to play Destiny. And the season was a banger!
Totally agree, AMAZING season
It wasn’t my first season but it is still my favorite season. It had amazing loot. The activity was actually fun.
Arrivals>Dawn
Dawn was a lite opulence so don't get it twisted.
Season of Plunder at least deserved B tier.
It introduced us to arc 3.0 which was amazing and had a lot of potential for amazing arc builds.
Arrivals is genuinely my favorite time in Destiny 2 ever
Great tier list, except 30th anniversary is so much better than Season of the Deep. Aside from that, I agree with all your placements.
i would've put Season of the Haunt higher, it was so much fun making everything explode with the new Solar rework
Crucible during Forsaken was literal HELL
Yeah... I still haven't played anything to do with 30th anniversary... I missed out on all of that bc I don't wanna pay for it after buying the year season pass
Dawn is still my favorite season, mad respect for putting that in A
Arrivals on S is a huge W
Tier list is the new d2 content
Season of the Deep had a dungeon so good that people hate: the bosses health being higher than raid bosses, the moth mechanic randomly doing more damage, shield mechanic making super damage or Arbalest mandatory, THE FUCKING TRANSITIONS being as long as encounters, the insanely long first encounter being Crown of Sorrow opening 2 - Lucent Hive edition
The architecture is Throne World + water filter + moon gravity instead of the Arcology aesthetic that they never fully utilized
Yeah man, good dungeon LULW
10:57 lmfao Frabo cameo
I think for a lot of people that they are not happy unless they are complaining. If you like something then who cares what others think of your decision to like it or not
Chosen was awesome story wise and gameplay wise imo, def a high tier season
Also Warmind was decent and it laid important groundwork for Forsaken
Chosen had that community event that sucked so bad so nah.
@@ryanrobins945 ??? What event? If it had one it was a side thing and it doesn't drag down the quality of the story, the strike, the battlegrounds or the loot
I can't be on board with black armory being above dawn, seraph, splicer, and witch. It has got to move down to A.
I also can't put curse of orisis anywhere other than bottom tier. That was the the game's lowest point. All other low points only feel close to as low or lower because of the higher expectations we've had since milestones like forsaken and witch queen.
Black Armory was 🐐 Forsaken is what brought me back to D2
Season of the worthy was one of my favorite because it was my first
Red War... Ghaul was cool asf 😎
im just saying, the people saying the price doesnt matter have to realize that mentality is why gaming as a whole is in turmoil. We get delay after delay to get half baked products because "eh why not, theyll buy it".. not trying to start conflict but price definitely matters
I was thinking “why tf is he putting worthy so high 😭” but I am SO glad he got it confused with chose
Black armory and menagarie was my favorite.
Cross should checkout his playtime in each season, was interesting insight with myself and a clan mate the other day
Chosen should be an A. Caital, ToO revamp, Presage, DMT and Ticuu’s, the H.E.L.M., the seasonal weapons like imperial needle, code duello, extraordinary rendition, and threaded needle, Battlegrounds, Proving Ground Strike, umbral engrams returning, the seasonal challenges model, etc.
Beyond light at A is crazy
For beyond light: Chosen should be S tier, id personally put splicer in S tier but that because I love the vex theme and those weapons but A tier would be fine. Lost would be B tier. Hunt would be low C or high D.
But let me argue more for splicer: we had breach and clear, it was the last season of OP anarchy and warmind cells, same with double slug quick swap. We got ignition code, ticcus, we also got VoG that season even though I hate that raid now. Daddy Mithtax was a badass. It was just a great season all around.
Ticcus was from chosen not splicer
@@chrisgeo6713 oh shit you're right. We got cryothesia in splicer but still the rest of what I said stands.
i remember splicer fondly honestly not for the weapons or gameplay altho i still use my chroma rush but more so it was the first time i felt the need to grind in the 4yrs I've played d2 i didn't want to or feel the need or you could say i didn't see it as a grind it was fun mithrax was interesting i hadn't cared for the lore up until that point but then finding out the whole backstory of the eliksni and saint 14 was so interesting but also we killed tf out eliksni and they were enemies but they came to us in there time of need not what i expected
@@emmanuelwil-jeff Right! It was kinda filler story but at the same time not. Plus we also got to see Ikora do a classic Ikora Nova Bomb to nova warp within like 10 seconds. The vex network seasonal activity was really cool. Sure it wasn't the best activity but it was far better than wrathborn hunts or whatever we did in plunder.
Can’t wait for you to make this again next year when we get our last season
I agree with this list, though I took a break after forsaken and didn’t play again still end of worthy so I can’t comment on those seasons
I feel like everyone forgets about the VEX public event during the season of the undying.
I've been playing D2 on-and-off over the past years, reaching level cap and doing the new activities before going back to my normal game rotations. I think we can agree, Bungie has been making solid improvements to the game over the years (until recently, with the whole "firing half the squad" nonsense). Now, only if they gave up on their "fear of over-delivering" and gave us content that is actually good, instead of this Naruto-nonsense filler episode seasons.
I’d say it’s fair to put 30th Anni in Because all we really paid for was the dungeon. Considering we pay $20 for 2 dungeons now it makes sense. Besides if you rank that it’s only fair to rank the April update from D1 at least A tier since it was free
cross rizzing us up in the thumbnail
"take it or leave it" I'll leave it
5:20 an objective comparison between Black Armory and Arrivals:
What people liked in Black Armory
- easy raid
- easy loot that performed well
- a puzzle that 90% of players just waited for the devs to open for them
- seasonal activity is a brainless loop that everyone actively complained about and still does when Bonfire Bash comes around (its the exact same thing, kill group, throw ball at tower, don't even try to argue this)
Arrivals
- refreshed old fan favorite weapons and introduced some good new ones (Guillotine Witherhoard combo was more meta in its own season than anything from BA)
- free dungeon for everyone
- introduced the current focusing system
- a seasonal activity that people actually enjoyed and was likely used to help freshen up the closest mode to said activity (gambit)
Objectively speaking, Black Armory may have had arguably more content, but people remember it for the raid and weapons. That's all. Arrivals is hailed as one of the best seasons to this day, even despite its delay, which a delay would've killed Black Armory. Arrivals is better.
I have PTSD from CoO. All my friends left D2 at that point and never came back.
Very good tier list, not really mad about it. I think scourge was fun tho, mainly because of the open aspect of it. It felt fresh, as we had to navigate the complex architecture of the last city. Maybe if it was longer and a bit more difficult it would of slapped, but I thought is was a fun raid.
I only started playing destiny in season of the worthy and I think that beyond light is the best dlc I’ve been there for
Bro the community puzzle in Season of Dawn was S-tier by itself
Having both Beyond Light and Shadowkeep be higher than Lightfall is completely ridiculous
Curse of Osiris HAD THE BEST WEAPONS….i need them back ASAP
Season of the Seraph was goated, I miss that season.
Beyond light was the breaking point for me. Aspect grind was crazy long and there was no loot. Everyone that I know stopped playing with that expansion. It was the beginning of the end of D2.
Hah, beyond light was my favourite expansion. It's the point where the game felt the most complete to me throughout all of Destiny's life as a franchise.
Me who just did the campaign and waited till Bungie fixed it. Which they did XD
I 💯agree to the Beyond light placement
Bro, fishing slander? No way. That’s dropped some of my best exotic rolls 🤣
Season of the Haunted doesn't deserve to be that low! Weapons were / are great, best seasonal pass ornaments, nightmare containments really fun + unique environment and the story at least connected you more to the protagonists without having to read lore books...
2:05 oh hey that’s me
CoS campaign for me was really good
No bullsh!t.
It’s actually hella impressive, how MANY experiences Destiny 2 has given us.
For all tha day to day/week to week flack that players give Bungie..
You gotta admit, no other game is give’n us as much variety & literal different sh!t to do as Destiny 2 has given.
👏🏾, Bungie.
Season of the Lost is severely underrated (a tier imo)
Just throwing a random idea out there. What if cross did a ranking of all the trailers and reveal trailers for the expansions and seasons. Sounds silly but why not look back on why we played certain seasons and to look back and remember on the stuff we enjoyed from the seasons
Beyond light was really underrated. Stasis power fantasy was great. And you still had top dawn, chaos reach, bottom striker. 120 hc felwinter shatter dive. Got countered by le monarque. But eh no one remembers that.
Bro I remember one trials weekend. Endless vale god roll multi mach smg. Shatter dive nuke. Was so much fun. Then void 3.0 or whatever. Felt like nerf fights. Shotgun nerf, bruh horrible
Campaign was doggy water but everything else was goodb
That’s what I’m saying stasis is underrate so happy its getting a buff
@@jacobtuck3086 yea I hate how pvp players are forced to play pve, when I have zero interest to do so.
@@MetaDiscussionsand we hate how PvE is trash and been nerfed a thousand tiles because of pvp players
I’d move a couple things but Destiny 2 is pretty consistent across the board there are the same amount of highs and lows a couple more above avg and then the same amount of below avg💀. Destiny 1 included then there are more highs and the above avgs than lows and below avgs
pretty fair tier list tbh
Part of the reason I co-sign with you about Beyond Light is due to the fact that it was made during the worse pandemic this country ever saw. They gave us a new planet with a shifting environment of all things, some awesome sandbox changes, our first darkness subclass, a pretty cool raid, and one banger of a soundtrack. Yeah there were some problem with it but the good far outweighs the bad.
statis goes hard went hard BL to me is statis and i actually like that it was like a new darkness subclass as well you could say this is the beginning of what we now know as the witness and even prior the pyramid ships was mysterious af and we knew nothing of significance so i think the lore was good hear but also i don't understand honestly why ppl hate BL as if to say it's the only bad season we've ever had :P
Season of Arrivals was a public event
Season of deep is c, that final boss in dungeon was basically almost raid boss level only thing that made is easy was witherhoard cheese
You may be tired of the seasonal model but it doesn’t change that season of the witch is a GOOD SEASON
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