Elvin's APPARENT sloppy work at times is just a trademark of his genius. He plays behind the beat in a way that one FEELS it, but it is absolutely on time. I used to play against Elvin's records and found it amazing to see how much it was EASY to be carried by him. No wonder that all the greats called on him to back them up! I miss Elvin dearly!
There are so many 'Elvin-isms' in Elvins drum solos, especially with the phrasing of the poly-rhythms, yet somehow each performance is extremely unique. Elvin once said that his solos were constructed of verses and choruses much like a tune or song is constructed. Elvin was a true artistic genius. The sign of a true artist is to pour your heart into your instrument, and that's what Elvin did and that's why he is my drum hero.
If life could be like jazz, everyone gets along, everyone gets space, and together they kill it, no matter who they are, black or white! We can do it people!
I copped a hiding for seeing Elvin Jones at the Teatro Municipal in Vina del Mar, Chile in 1972. I was grounded and I escaped through the window! It was worth it!
I got to shake his hands this one time as he came off the just-burned to the ground & smokin' bandstand in at a small club in Minneapolis, and I can still feel the blessing he gave with his joyous eyes & beautiful smile. He was the true apotheosis of living jazz drum love, I never will forget! --- Thanks for the great video!:)
@monktrane325 I was lucky enough to study with Pat, too. He's a generous person and teacher, and one of the strongest musicians I've ever played with. Hearing him with Elvin's Quartet back in the 1980's was a serious musical experience. Afterwards, Pat even introduced me and my friends to Elvin himself - very memorable stuff.
ELVIN-Is a jazz drummer, the highest order of improvizational genius, if you can't understand that then you have no business no business talking about it.
I have the great Blessing of hearing Coltrane with McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones 4 times in Chicago. Thank God these videos exist, and it is great to watch them...but it really only gives a small fraction of the experience of what it was like to be there, 20' away, when all that Cosmic Divine Beauty and Power were pouring forth on you....I was like sitting at the bottom of Niagara Falls. TYJGK
You ARE truly blessed. I have heard from various sources that sometimes when the classic Coltrane Quartet was playing the Village Vanguard, people would leave. From the sonic avalanche of SOUND. Coltrane would just blow for hours, with Elvin right behind him. McCoy and Jimmy both exhausted and leaving the stage to just John and Elvin. I can only imagine what that must have been like. Can't believe people on here talking about Elvin's clothes, for god's sake. I got to see Elvin with his band, in his last years. He had stopped smoking by then. He actually saw me just staring at him and smiled back. I felt touched by a higher power. He signed an old Blue Note LP and a big coffee table size book on Jazz. Keiko took them backstage and got Elvin to sign them for me. Priceless treasures. There was only ONE Elvin Jones.
I saw at Slugs with a small trio. During intermission a sax play went up to the stage and asked if he could sit in. He agreed. Mr Jones had a bass player and a saxophonist. Well the second set started and after the beginning of a song the two sax players started going back and forth. Doing their thing. That lasted a while and then Mr jones took over with a hot torrent of syncopated rhythms shutting them both down. Magical night. By the way Johnny Winter was in the audience..
Unglaublich! Diese Perfektion an völlig natürlich erscheinender rhythmischen Gestaltung des musikalischen Materials strahlt weit über allem, was bekannt ist. Isn't it?!
Elvin breaks into this solo like a hot hot summer volcano!!!!!spewing lava and fire erupting into an enormous sky full of smoke and organized anger!!!!!!! truly a force to be reckoned with a master and most definitely one of the kings of the drum set........Elvin Jones........ its whats for dinner!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! love you forever Elvin
I always wanted to personally ask Elvin what kind of feedback or criticism he got when he really developed his style. He was so different. He could fit in with all the Jazz greats when he started, but when really came on with the whole polyrhythmic "style" and such ferocious intensity....man...you know he turned heads on the bandstand.
Around 5:15 I got worried that the bass drum mallet might catch Elvin's pantsleg, but no. Elvin was completely in control of that as well! God bless him - he is truly the master.
Wished I could have been there too. I have a pair of Gretsch Elvin Jones sticks. They are so thin. Small for a man like Elvin, with his powerful hands. Like a 5A stick. You'd think he would have used big 2B size sticks like Tony Williams.But, when you really look at Elvin's hands while he's playing, he's actually barely holding his sticks. Such a delicate grip, but....when the sticks hit his DRUMS, all Hell broke loose. The man was a god.
1976 Elvin's band members were Azar Lawrence (sax), Ryo Kawasaki and David Williams. Almost the same band here with the exception of sax player Pat LaBarbara. - Great energy!
The best thing about Elvin is when he tries to go for something and doesn't quite get it. How he responds to this make my hair stand up. Most drummers make a f*** up and then go all sheepish for a minute or too. Elvin, well he just responds by throwing himself further in the deep end and try's to get him self out. That when the magic happens.
noostrings Pretty much nailed it. That’s why I love improv going deep and taking risks , it’s fun and exciting all these new drummers sound like they’ve been practicing the same shit to show off pre thought garbage.
Different things inspire us. The augury of Birds in the sky,clouds,certain parts of Women, music in the air. Sometimes i like to sweat and work hard with a devotional intensity. It is the essence of bhakti. i heard this the other day and became inspired by it. - And then I thought. "Hey maybe someone else might be inspired by it also."
Don't forget Roy Haynes, Louis Hayes, Papa Jo Jones, Joe Morello, Art Taylor, Billy Higgins, Shelly Manne and Stan Levey. Innovators and legends as well.
Elvin in the driver's seat! Beautifully awkward at times. Intricate and human. Not only that but I don't think even Ed Blackwell could pull off a mesh shirt and matching white leather shoes. A true master.
that was awesome--elvin just killed it, he was one of a kind,his personality and energy and story telling skills were quite profound,,great band,,don`t hear or know enough about pat la barbera or ryo kawasaki but i dug the vibe,that tune is very cool and the arrangement is totally happening ,,,more of this please sir!!! p.s. didn`t know there were any good porno movies from the 50`s--lol
Wow. Im not a Drummer, Im a Bass Player. But what am I seeing/ hearing at 4:40? Is that triplets on the rack tom / high-hat / snare? He does that, then builds on it, then goes away from it, but keeps coming back to it. Is that what is going on? Beyond cool.
@DWlang66 even if you do think that this is random noise (which it isnt, there is a clearly defined tonality, although they stray from it liberally, and a clear rhythmic pulse firmly in the jazz tradition) i hope you dont deny that these men are incredibly talented individuals who have mastered their instruments and have an incredible command of rhythm and harmony and group interplay
Not exactly the same but the most innovative drummer you're going to find today is Zach Hill, and hes said in interviews that Elvin Jones is an influence. Zach sides wildely more complex though, and to the untrained ear it can sound like a lot. Imagine these kind of polyrythms extrapolated to the nth degree. Each project he's worked on sound typically wildly different. Imagine a jazz fueled nightmare.
This vid should be earlier than 1979, I guess 1977, cause guitarist Kawasaki was not that long in this band. Elvin already has toured Europe in October 1976 with almost the same lineup, instead LaBarbara Elvin got Azar Lawrence on sax.
I believe this performance can be found on an old documentary entitled: "Elvin Jones: A Different Drummer". I have it on DVD. I first saw it on PBS back in the late 1970s/ early 80s. Look on Ebay for it. I think it contained only this performance, not the entire gig.
Pat La Barbara is not only a great saxophonist but also the luckiest guy alive....he played with Elvin Jones and Buddy Rich! Wow...
Elvin's APPARENT sloppy work at times is just a trademark of his genius. He plays behind the beat in a way that one FEELS it, but it is absolutely on time. I used to play against Elvin's records and found it amazing to see how much it was EASY to be carried by him. No wonder that all the greats called on him to back them up! I miss Elvin dearly!
I think Elvin Jones is the only man who could ever wear what is essentially a fishnet top and look completely manly and badass in it.
Shirt don't lie haha
It's Elvin Jones! The man could've come out dressed as the Ringling Bros. and we'd still take him serious.
Agreed! The only things I've ever seen in that material are as follows: Pear apples, Elvin Jones.
Maybe Fela Kuti or Bernie Worrell.
Right on the spot
When I was a 17 year old rock drummer. Seeing and meeting and lessons with Elvin , I became a jazz drummer.
jealous!
There are so many 'Elvin-isms' in Elvins drum solos, especially with the phrasing of the poly-rhythms, yet somehow each performance is extremely unique.
Elvin once said that his solos were constructed of verses and choruses much like a tune or song is constructed. Elvin was a true artistic genius.
The sign of a true artist is to pour your heart into your instrument, and that's what Elvin did and that's why he is my drum hero.
the whole group is insane!!!!! Pat La Barbara .......omg!
I always wondered how Pats playing got by most people. He’s a brilliant musician!
Pat is genius. As well as his two brothers John and Joe. Truly a talented family.
If life could be like jazz, everyone gets along, everyone gets space, and together they kill it, no matter who they are, black or white! We can do it people!
I copped a hiding for seeing Elvin Jones at the Teatro Municipal in Vina del Mar, Chile in 1972. I was grounded and I escaped through the window! It was worth it!
I got to shake his hands this one time as he came off the just-burned to the ground & smokin' bandstand in at a small club in Minneapolis, and I can still feel the blessing he gave with his joyous eyes & beautiful smile. He was the true apotheosis of living jazz drum love, I never will forget! --- Thanks for the great video!:)
@monktrane325 I was lucky enough to study with Pat, too. He's a generous person and teacher, and one of the strongest musicians I've ever played with. Hearing him with Elvin's Quartet back in the 1980's was a serious musical experience. Afterwards, Pat even introduced me and my friends to Elvin himself - very memorable stuff.
Love Pat LaBarbera! Man Elvin was the best!
ELVIN-Is a jazz drummer, the highest order of improvizational genius, if you can't understand that then you have no business no business talking about it.
Well said!
Genius. Check this out...improvisational.
This right here!
I have the great Blessing of hearing Coltrane with McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones 4 times in Chicago. Thank God these videos exist, and it is great to watch them...but it really only gives a small fraction of the experience of what it was like to be there, 20' away, when all that Cosmic Divine Beauty and Power were pouring forth on you....I was like sitting at the bottom of Niagara Falls. TYJGK
You ARE truly blessed. I have heard from various sources that sometimes when the classic Coltrane Quartet was playing the Village Vanguard, people would leave. From the sonic avalanche of SOUND. Coltrane would just blow for hours, with Elvin right behind him. McCoy and Jimmy both exhausted and leaving the stage to just John and Elvin. I can only imagine what that must have been like. Can't believe people on here talking about Elvin's clothes, for god's sake. I got to see Elvin with his band, in his last years. He had stopped smoking by then. He actually saw me just staring at him and smiled back. I felt touched by a higher power. He signed an old Blue Note LP and a big coffee table size book on Jazz. Keiko took them backstage and got Elvin to sign them for me. Priceless treasures. There was only ONE Elvin Jones.
One of my great regrets in life that I didn't get to experience that directly
I saw at Slugs with a small trio. During intermission a sax play went up to the stage and asked if he could sit in. He agreed. Mr Jones had a bass player and a saxophonist. Well the second set started and after the beginning of a song the two sax players started going back and forth. Doing their thing. That lasted a while and then Mr jones took over with a hot torrent of syncopated rhythms shutting them both down. Magical night. By the way Johnny Winter was in the audience..
Begs the question “how many times is too many to play the same phrase”
I love at at 8:22 Elvin refuses to end and keeps the groove going!
I love that cymbal crash at 3:57, Jones just smacks the shit out of it like it talked back.
I read your comment and I can't unsee that XD
Unglaublich! Diese Perfektion an völlig natürlich erscheinender rhythmischen Gestaltung des musikalischen Materials strahlt weit über allem, was bekannt ist. Isn't it?!
It’s like he’s playing ABOVE time. Unreal.
Three Card was always one of Elvin’s main charts that he used. Awesome solo work on Soprano by LaBarbera and Elvin’s footwork is just outstanding.
Elvin breaks into this solo like a hot hot summer volcano!!!!!spewing lava and fire erupting into an enormous sky full of smoke and organized anger!!!!!!! truly a force to be reckoned with a master and most definitely one of the kings of the drum set........Elvin Jones........ its whats for dinner!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! love you forever Elvin
Its increíble to me that only 1400 likes out of 220000 views actually support Elvin Jones extraordinary singular drumming world reknown style.
Simply one of the coolest cats who ever played. Power, dynamics, flare, improvisation, resonating tones, just awesome.
His playing is as elegant and as powerful as an aged Scotch...truely a pioneer and innovator.
I always wanted to personally ask Elvin what kind of feedback or criticism he got when he really developed his style. He was so different. He could fit in with all the Jazz greats when he started, but when really came on with the whole polyrhythmic "style" and such ferocious intensity....man...you know he turned heads on the bandstand.
Elvin--always terrific. No cliches here. Thank you.
The Muhammad Ali of drums.
I liked that thnx bud
Around 5:15 I got worried that the bass drum mallet might catch Elvin's pantsleg, but no. Elvin was completely in control of that as well! God bless him - he is truly the master.
Okay I got my cigarette lit and I'm ready
Sat right in front of his kit for 2 nights in a row at the Jazz Workshop in Boston in 1978. Words cannot even begin to describe.
Wished I could have been there too. I have a pair of Gretsch Elvin Jones sticks. They are so thin. Small for a man like Elvin, with his powerful hands. Like a 5A stick. You'd think he would have used big 2B size sticks like Tony Williams.But, when you really look at Elvin's hands while he's playing, he's actually barely holding his sticks. Such a delicate grip, but....when the sticks hit his DRUMS, all Hell broke loose. The man was a god.
Agreed - only a deity could rumble like thunder through a ballad like Naima.
Yes,a high school drum friend & I were probably next to you @ another table, also right in front of Elvin's yellow Gretsch then
@@paulbartlett4526 Then you remember that smiling glare with a cigarette ash always dangling :)
elvin jones is a SUPER FORCE OF NATURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best i'v heard Pat play
Idol, genius
4:45 - 5:45 I couldn't stop laughing out of sheer amazement. It takes a true musical evil genius to do what he he just did.
1976 Elvin's band members were Azar Lawrence (sax), Ryo Kawasaki and David Williams. Almost the same band here with the exception of sax player Pat LaBarbara. - Great energy!
The best thing about Elvin is when he tries to go for something and doesn't quite get it. How he responds to this make my hair stand up. Most drummers make a f*** up and then go all sheepish for a minute or too. Elvin, well he just responds by throwing himself further in the deep end and try's to get him self out. That when the magic happens.
That reminds me of Coltrane. Maybe not strictly coincidental.
ive noticed that with tony too.. a lot to be learned there
noostrings Pretty much nailed it. That’s why I love improv going deep and taking risks , it’s fun and exciting all these new drummers sound like they’ve been practicing the same shit to show off pre thought garbage.
@@jonahwestphalen2573 great point.
Different things inspire us. The augury of Birds in the sky,clouds,certain parts of Women, music in the air. Sometimes i like to sweat and work hard with a devotional intensity. It is the essence of bhakti. i heard this the other day and became inspired by it. - And then I thought. "Hey maybe someone else might be inspired by it also."
Man listen to him groove in that pocket. I would kill for that rhythm.
this version of "Three Card Molly" seriously bangs. it sounds more heavier, busier, and cohesive among everyone jiving
elvins polyrythmical flow sounds that precise and complex to my ears...what a fucking drummer ... a beast and to the point
Nature !! c'est complètement nature!! Une force incroyable jaillit de cette musique !! Merci !!
Elvin Jones, Max Roach, Buddy Rich, and Philly Joe Jones are the greatest to ever do it. Oh and Marvin Smitty Smith.
Don't forget Roy Haynes, Louis Hayes, Papa Jo Jones, Joe Morello, Art Taylor, Billy Higgins, Shelly Manne and Stan Levey. Innovators and legends as well.
Tony Williams, Eddie Blackwell, Baby Dodds, Paul Barbarin...
Art Blakey, Jack Dejohnette, and Alan Dawson too
what a natural talent indeed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
One of my favorite drummers!
almost same kit as Tony Williams yet so amazing and lovely difrent
I'm can only guess that the 5 thumbs down happened by accident. How can you not Love\Respect the great Elvin Jones
the time is engrained naturally its about recognizing the difference and synergy between even time and creativity.. it may get lost but u can find it
2:15 ENERGY ENERGY ENERGY
nobody plays like Elvin Jones This is Only one.
Mr.Polyrhythms Elvin Jones.May he R. I.P.
Spectacular, with dynamite in your hands.
Holy Hell!
Elvin is the jazz music
WONDERFUL!!! ELVIN 4 EVER...
AXE!!!
Elvin in the driver's seat! Beautifully awkward at times. Intricate and human. Not only that but I don't think even Ed Blackwell could pull off a mesh shirt and matching white leather shoes. A true master.
What a master.
YES.....very serious, love the energy & attention 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Elvin IS destroying me here as per his usual.
This voodoo could only come from Elvin.
Elvin JONES!
stunning -just amazin!
Elvin is on my Mt. Rushmore of drummers. Top 3.
Elvin beating the heads off of them drums!
Definitely.
Incredible album.
No one plays like Elvin, no one.
Elvin Jones, Legend
The last two minutes are real good. Great piece Evlin.
that was awesome--elvin just killed it, he was one of a kind,his personality and energy and story telling skills were quite profound,,great band,,don`t hear or know enough about pat la barbera or ryo kawasaki but i dug the vibe,that tune is very cool and the arrangement is totally happening ,,,more of this please sir!!! p.s. didn`t know there were any good porno movies from the 50`s--lol
A MASTER
Flint Michigan
Ty for uploading this video .
there r a lot of trplet soloing guys out there but Elvin...... is like you're runned over by a train (and big 1to) THE MAN
excellent video-
Man, that sax player sounds a lot like Coltrane. . . Elvin is incredible.
Pat does sound like Coltrane.
You are correct good ear! He has covered Trane's work too
Fantastic
@knowgeddy I agree....laughter is my litmus test for sheer playing genious!
@i40gordy
Mee too, in Lima - Perú, same combo, at summer (ours) 1973. It was Zacariah at the theaters at the same time. And yes: far out!
For 0:25 Ron says pre-Elvin, Elvin and post-Elvin.
My list would be..
Pre: Kenny Clarke
Current: Elvin Jones
Post: Brian Blade.
ZionGuy Brian blade is only good enough to hold elvins sweatrag offstage.
Wow. Im not a Drummer, Im a Bass Player. But what am I seeing/ hearing at 4:40? Is that triplets on the rack tom / high-hat / snare? He does that, then builds on it, then goes away from it, but keeps coming back to it. Is that what is going on? Beyond cool.
Wow, Amen!
@DWlang66
even if you do think that this is random noise (which it isnt, there is a clearly defined tonality, although they stray from it liberally, and a clear rhythmic pulse firmly in the jazz tradition) i hope you dont deny that these men are incredibly talented individuals who have mastered their instruments and have an incredible command of rhythm and harmony and group interplay
them some jazz shoes!
Encore!
damn i want my toms to sound like that, that my friends is a golden sounding drum kit played by a the one and only
Well said. Blessings
D
@killerj0e YES!!! I love it.
thats right it IS beyond u
can you imagine transcribing this hahaha fucking years later your like halfway thru
@bruthaflo well put, man!
I am sitting here stunned :0
thats a huge joint at the beggining
classic
how come no one can play jazz drums like this anymore?
Not exactly the same but the most innovative drummer you're going to find today is Zach Hill, and hes said in interviews that Elvin Jones is an influence. Zach sides wildely more complex though, and to the untrained ear it can sound like a lot. Imagine these kind of polyrythms extrapolated to the nth degree.
Each project he's worked on sound typically wildly different. Imagine a jazz fueled nightmare.
PATS KILLIN IT
What is he doing with those toms? Oh my dear gods!!!
This vid should be earlier than 1979, I guess 1977, cause guitarist Kawasaki was not that long in this band. Elvin already has toured Europe in October 1976 with almost the same lineup, instead LaBarbara Elvin got Azar Lawrence on sax.
bad ass
Anyone know where to find the full performance?
I believe this performance can be found on an old documentary entitled: "Elvin Jones: A Different Drummer". I have it on DVD. I first saw it on PBS back in the late 1970s/ early 80s. Look on Ebay for it. I think it contained only this performance, not the entire gig.
How the fuck does he ever find the one?! It's amazing!
good t-shirt
Love it but when I see yellow Gretsch I just can't stop thinking about...
I wonder what his necklace is?
Elvin Jones solo starts here 2:42
That's how you do it, play it, get up, walk away.
Did this group record? If so, can someone please tell me what album(s)? I love this instrumentation.