The Best Value Baitcaster - Lews vs 13 Fishing
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2022
- In this video I'm comparing my 13 Fishing Inception Reel to my Lew's Tournament Pro. Both are great reels. Although I've put much more time in with the Lew's the 13 Fishing Inception is quickly becoming one of my favorite reels to use for reaction baits
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Final update: this little reel is the little engine that could ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e . It performed flawlessly and was easy to adjust drag in the moment while I was battling a 35lb bat ray behemoth. Mind you, this reel is spooled with only 25 lb braid and 25 mono topshot. It's paired with the kastking telescopic heavy power rod and the two work well together. This has now earned my respect and confidence when traveling and fishing. If you have ever hooked into large rays and sharks, you know they pull extremely hard and can run forever! This thing clamped down on the fish and was easy to adjust during the fight. It has a nice decently fast retrieve as well. Twice the fish went on mad runs and I was able to gain back line quickly to avoid spooling.
I love how B-Lat actually uses/tests budget equipment. There are tons of of bass fishing channels out there that mention a budget set up were the rod and reel are $200 each. Especially, when they tell you to get a different rod and reel for every single bait that you have.
$100 for a rod plus $100 for reel is high end for me because this is a hobby, not my job. I have one combo over $100 and I do not have a problem landing bass as a bank angler.
I agree its cool that he does that but i also believe in buy the best you can afford. just because its a hoby for me doesnt mean im going to cheap out IF i can afford something nicer. that being said we all enjoy our hobbies differently. I have every price range. i own an ugly stick, lews mach 2 combo, berkely series one, dobyns sierra, and kistler zbone. out of all of them the two most sensitive rods are the z bone and the berkley series one.
to me theres not much difference between the dobyns sierra and the lews mach 2 combo which is incredible because the dobyns rod is more expensive than the whole combo.
i got the berkley on sale for like 60 bucks and that things punches above its weight. i recommned it to anyone.
i honestly think for a spinner set up you cant beat the berkely series one and a pfleuger president. if you can find the sereis one on sale, as they ften are you can have an amazing setup for like $120.
as far as reels theres nothing wrong with the lews it will teach you to really control your casts or you will get birds nests. but thats not necessarily a bad thing it will teach you to really use a baitcaster. if you can afford it the daiwa fuego is very nice for its price, much nicer then the lews. but they all get the job done imo. the lews has never had a hiccup in the six years ive had it, my budy has had an abu garcia max pro for just as long with zero problems as well.
sorry went on a rant but i will leave it because i think its good info for anyone new to fishing.
@@3spressoShot I generally agree with you. The big part of high end combo for me being $200 is that unlike most hobbies bass fishing requires 3 to 5 combos for the average bass angler. A frogging/punching combo, a finesse combo, and then you have texas rigs, jigs, spinner baits, vibrating jigs, crank baits, etc. I recently got 3 more combos for $100 each used that would have been around $250 new. I have a finesse combo, frogging/punching combo, weightless fluke/senko combo, buzz bait combo, crank bait combo, 2x Texas Rig combos, jerk bait combo. If I followed the budget version of other channels I would be $2,000 in on rods, reels, and line. I have probably spent a little over $1,000 between combos, line, and tackle/baits. I could get away with less combos but I do not like have to change baits and lures on my poles every time I go fishing. I would spend a half hour or so just changing everything out and reorganizing baits when I have only two or three hours to fish.
I like your suggestions and information. I chose the long game of waiting for people to sell stuff they are not using so I can get stuff outs of my comfort zone financially as I am not buying one or two things that will be the thing I use for my hobby.
most pro use cheaper to mid grade fishing gears because they want to sell the product to the avg fishermen. If they just use high end stuff majority of fishermen ain’t going to buy it. If it wasn’t for that reason most pro would use $1000 combo.
"I don't care what the frame is made out of, Jerry!" Dude. Hilarious, and so true.
Great info B! Thanks for keeping it simple for us weekend warriors!
I've had my 13 fishing Inception reel for bout 2 months now and so far its been a workhorse. Love the info, thanks
great video, just bought my first baitcaster, and was stressed that 6.2 i ordered was gunna be too slow, but u definately helped relieve that stress, thanks man
I've got like 10 of the original concept z's and I've had 2 problems with 2 reels but I've had them for years. 1 was the line guide quit working and the other, had some teeth broke of a gear. Going to make 1 of those work this week. I would definitely buy more and really want the new 1. And all i fish is Favorite rods. Another great vid B-lat! Love you, your content, and best of luck!
Wow! Started out looking for a bargain reel. I got that and so much more! I’m giving the inception a try. I agree that matching your natural personality to reel speed is the way to go. I like cranking that handle quickly so 5.5s work for me with crank baits. Everyone is a little different and there isn’t a wrong or right. Great stuff B!
Thank you for the video Mr. Latimer. I can always look up the specs on my own so I really appreciate your opinion on the functionality of the reels.
Literally just the other day I was looking at these reels wondering if they performed well on the water. Good to know that as of right now they have your full approval. On the other hand I had no idea that Lew's reels have built on hook keeper. Thanks for the heads up. 👍🏾
Hello from Biloxi Mississippi, Thank you for this video, me and my sister are taking up Fishing again, we share a apartment in a retirement community, BINGO SUCKS!!!! We are learning so much from You, Thank you again. GOD BLESS YOU 🙌
If it gives you confidence.... Use it.
Even if it catches less fish....
@@davidarwood6264 but you FELT like you caught a bunch.
I pitch with my inception...not the smoothest or quietest but just alot of Hooksets so I bought another one 😁
But the game warden said not to use dynamite when fishing....
Totally agree with you B.Lat about the slower gear ratio reels especially fishing chatterbaits
Picked up a Concept Z slide this year and love it. Definitely don’t have an issue using it over my Shimano DCs. It has made me want to try more 13Fishing reels.
The Tournament Pro is absolutely amazing. That and the Team Lews Light are my favorites.
i agree with that, my 6.3:1 SLX is my favorite chatter/crank reel
B Lat Sick Stick spinning rod is on my wishlist but I’m looking to get started baitcasting as well thanks for making this video
I have it. It’s awesome. Feels great, super versatile and of course looks sick
Big fan of 13 fishing and the Concept A Gen 2 is amazing. Great customer service as well. Gonna pick up one of those Inceptions next
Nice video B, I have the 13Fishing Origin C with ceramic bearings and its a sweet reel. Keep up the great work...
so right,my number one thing is spooling out casting,I have used shinano for years,rebuilt drags with carbon fiber,when Lew's came out with speed spool,I couldn't get it to spool for top water,my thumb is my drag,I was sponsored by Okuma,only used spinners,had good luck with them,love they show.
Those bait keepers are the bomb on the Lews. Great video Brian.
I love my 2 13 fishing concept A I have the original one from a few years ago and got the A2 when it came out last year. They are the reels that cast the longest I own.
I just got my first 13 fishing real and it was the sport z..... my goodness! It felt like nothing else i have ever used!
I gave it to other people to use and thier exact words were "is there even anything on there?" Super smooth!!!!
I just ordered that Concept Z Slide, but I have a few of the old orange ones and love them. Got some Sport Zs, Concept A2s, and Inceptions too. I've even liked some of the bottom rung reels like the Origins... I didn't care too much for the original Origins but the newer ones like the R1, O1, and F1... they feel good and have the break control on an outside dial. All killer reels, and I also like that they make them in lower ratios. Reeling in a spinner or crank feels like reeling in a cinder block with a higher gear ratio haha. So much resistance even when you try and slow it down. That alone will tire you out if you're trying to throw it all day.
I've got 4 of the Lew's Tournament Pro G's ( the version that predates the Tournament model you have here ), 2 BB1 Pro's, and 2 Super Duty's. I've had all 8 of these Lew's reels for over 6 years now and I swear, all 8 of em still work & feel as smooth as they did the day I took em out of the box. I have no need whatsoever to update them at this time. I used mostly Shimano's since 1983, and nothing has held up as well as my 8 Lew's reels, I kid you not. Each are in various gear ratio's. I love all 3 models that I bought, but the Tournament Pro G was my favorite, so I immediately bought 2 more......which is why I have 4 of those and only 2 each of the others. But I will say this: when Lew's calls their one particular model "the Super Duty".......they weren't blowing smoke at all, they mean business. My Super Duty's have hauled in 20+ lb blue catfish while trophy bass fishing using jumbo live wild golden shiners down here on the Stick Marsh/Farm 13 reservoir. ( not to mention trophy bass up to 12 lbs, four of em so far, but I've lost much bigger bass that spit the hook. ) Sure, a bait-runner type casting reel with the clicker for live bait would be better, but the Super Duty's work just fine for me, on ultra heavy rods when tossing live wild shiners that are up to 10" long & weigh a good 1/4 of a pound or more. Tossing baits THAT heavy is really tough on a low-profile baitcaster. I use the jumbo live shiners only from late November through April, the cooler months down here. I also use my Super Duty's for heavy flipping & pitching. To each his own, but I'm absolutely sold on Lew's.
I've had the 6.8:1 Inception for several years now mainly for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits ... it's just like a Timex; takes a licking and keeps on ticking (though it is getting a little noisy over the last year but still working fine). Also just started a Lew's LFS Speed Spool with 7.5:1 retrieve; so far so good but it's only been a couple of months but I definitely see the difference when trying to slow roll with this reel. Though both feel okay in my hand, I like the fit of the Inception more as well. Thanks for your incite!
Been using 13 Fishing rod/reels for like 4 years now. Started out with the Inception reel and Defy rods and fell in love with the brand. Now have Concept reals and a combination of Muse Black and Omen Black rods. And far above and beyond most other things i have tried. Biggest thing with me is i have small hands and the 13 Fishing reels are a lot smaller than most other brands without sacrificing line capacity. And as far as the drags go the Bulldog drags that the Concept series reels is pretty beast.
Dude! I just got the sport z .... 😍 it feels like nothing else I have ever fished with before! 13 fishing is amazing!
ive had a 13 fishing inception for 3 year now and i fish saltwater and i beat the hell out of that reel never had a problem with really nice reel still smooth and its been under the water a few time keep in mind its saltwater still going strong
First time I've seen one of your videos and I have to say -- I LOVE IT! "I don't care how many ball bearings are in the reel, Jarod". #PureGreatness
Aaaaaaannnnd Booooom I found my problem, I'm a South African now fishing in the freezing north dakota and was about to throw my lews reels in the water you should see the reel blow ups when you fish a jerkbait and that antireverse decide to let go and you have to dig in there with cold fingers. I was just looking for a review on the 13 fishing inception and you sorted my problem out.Just bought the inception sz and man I'm excited to put it to work,I'm a total lew's fan but for the money I'm all for a dogfighter of a reel for the least amount of money and I'm pretty sure 13 fishing is on it Biiiig time!Appreciate your honesty and your insight!
Thanks for the comparison!
“Titanium forbidiminite”😂😂 . Great vid bLat!
Great video. Thanks!
You nailed it! How it feels in the hand🎉 how it feels at the end of the day, week. What you go back to every time you grab the rod/reel. How it sounds etc
I have the inception z and love it. Also have the origin c it’s a good reel also just not my favorite. Love the videos keep ‘‘em coming and best of luck ripping lips brother
I just won a inception sz can’t wait to try it out see what she is all about!
I use a Lew's LFS 7.5.1 and Lew's KVD squarebill rod to crank with and i love that combo, I catch dozens of bass a week on it and have had zero problems . That's a 220$ combo and it crushes.
Lews guy, tried others but always come back to lews. Hope the 13 works out for you come December. Good times and tight lines..
My bps qualifier is 6.4.1 ratio and I use that on most everything, 7.3.1 for top water maybe, good stuff bman
Very cool video, I use a curado 6.1 for spinner baits
I don’t know about the 13 fishing, but the LEWS Tournament Pro is so nice!
I love both the Inception and shimano SLX.
If you really want to slow your retrieve down, use a longer handle on a slower reel. I've noticed the slower reels come with shorter handles. By putting a longer handle on, it helps me slow it down
Never tried 13 Fishing, but I'm definitely gonna give it a go
I wish shimano had that hook keeper like Lew's. I use deep cranks a lot and love my older slower ratio curados even though I have newer faster ratio reels. All my rods are old and have a beat up rusty first guide from hooking baits onto them.
I own both reels I love my 13 fishing concept a2 reel I have the concept tzx also and the a2 feels the best. But my favorite reel is by far the Shimano slx!!! I have curado and the slx just feels best.
I've used Lews for the last 8 or 10 years, can't remember. Great reels at all price ranges. Hard to think about changing. I fit in the weekend fisherman category but actually fish 5 days a week. Great to be retired.
Love 13Fishing stuff!
I'm a big fan of the tournament pro. It fishes better than more pricey reels and is a workhorse.
My 7'2 B Lat sick stick, is due for delivery by Sunday. I can't wait. Now, I have to decide what reel to buy... lol
I'm an Abu Garcia guy, but I've used the higher end bass pro Johnny Morris baitcasters and they are outstanding.
Funny they told me today lees makes those
I am on Ardent's Pro staff, Best reels I ever used
Great video Brian
One3 fishing is my favorite never had a problem.
I love the pencil sharpener analogy!
Would love to see you compare it to the lews LFS at the same $99 price point.
I have 3 Lew's LFS and I love that reel, it's hard to beat for 100$.
I’ve got some 13’s but I’ve fallen in love with diawa tatula reels. They throw better than my curado DC
Good to hear.. thinking about picking up a tatula sv tw 103
Cool vid bud. I know this is a year old vid. But the inception and z reels are 6-way centrifugal braking system not magnet.. also the lews reel anti reverse not working in colder weather. All you have to do is add lite oil to the 1 way bearing and that will sto. You can either take the reel apart to do that or just take the handle off and the star drag system and slide the sleeve up and add oil that way.. keep up the good work
Great Video my Friend and I’ve been looking at the Inception and the concept C for a while and saving some bread for a good Reel. Did you try any of the lighter stuff like 1/4 ounce maybe on the Inception? I’m just getting back into Fishing after 2 decades off and still figuring out the magnetic adjustments on the side of the Reel, my Abu Ambassadeur 5500 pro max doesn’t have those. Semper Fidelis and I truly enjoy your Channel and Honest reviews
Dude you’re the man.
Great video honest opinion
Great video I agree
I’ve had the same problem in cold weather with my Lews LFS.
i have the same 13 on the exact same favorite defender
Thanx Brian😉👍🏾
I like my 4.3 to one with little jig heads and pan fish, and my 6.5 to one for bass
Thanks for the comparisons, Brian! Being a Favorite USA rod guy, have you tried their Soleus XCS reels? If so, what are your thoughts on them?
Haven't tried any 13 reels, I have had good experience with one lews I have. But after getting my diawa, that's all I've bought sence. Al thier mid to high end reels have multiple gear ratios to choose from. So get exactly what you want. The new T-wing system on tatulas is awesome!
Diawa Zillion is a great reel. The 2021 zillion is only $230 from Digitaka, delivers in less than 5 days, made in Japan. Its on par with my 2020 metanium (also on $230 on digitaka).
I was gifted an Inception SZ and I have the Inception and the SZ casts a bit further but is an insane smooth Reel like the Inception and the SZ slide is coming out soon lol it’s to many reels to want.
Great video. An application video is the way to go. I look for gear ratio and comfort. 6:8.1 - 7:2.1 is perfect for me as a bank angler. This video has me impressed with lews and 13 fishing. If they’re holding up to tournament fishing then no qualms about purchasing them for recreational fishing.
That inception is so underrated.
I like a lews 6.8.1 gear ratio and i love lews reels.
I love a reel that feels good to my fishing stylei love the combat paddles
Love my 13 Fishing reelz
I lost my favorite rod and a brand new tournament pro when I flipped my canoe. 40 degrees felt like summertime when I made it to the bank. Jumped back in to try and and swim back made it to my chest and literally said nope. Miraculously recovered it. Got back most my stuff and sold that deathtrap. Now your boy got a boat and I've been working my butt off to get it right.
You win too. Contact bow fa dee's knuts to claim your prize.
Im a lews fan myself so i get why you've used them often! What camera setup are you using? loving the video quality.
Thanks B
Thanks for your video, what is your opinion on Shimano Curado series?
Love this content. Love the character voices. 👍🏻🎣
I have one reel that is 7.5 to 1! The rest are 5.1 to 6.8 to 1. Like you said, I can reel faster, it’s hard to slow way down
I personally believe the Daiwa Fuego CT is the best budget casting reel on the market. I gravitate towards the higher-end gear, but keep several budget reels for techniques I don't employ very often. I've tried 13 and tried Lew's...absolutely HATE Lew's. I liked the 13 offerings, but feel you have to get to at least the "C" model to get anything really decent.
SLX is a great reel, but I think the CT edges it out overall.
I have a bunch of OG concept A reels , they are my most favorite reels. I have one of the original concept Z, it is very durable but it is was not worth 200 dollars.
In my experience it was completely opposite the lews I’ve never had a problem but the 13 fishing had issues with anti reverse
I have a 5.6:1 tournament mp on my cranking stick. And yes it will work you out.
Brian I have a daiwa zillion 10.0 gear ratio. After trying to use it for moving baits and all that, I agree it is way too fast. I found theres only 1 moving bait i can use it with and that is the jackall gargle....its a buzzbait that built like a spinnerbait and has a free swinging blade. It is hard to get it to plop or gargle on the surface, you have to reel it really fast to get it up and going. the 10.0 makes that into nothing. everything else, it is much too fast. I wasn't used to it and i kept reeling baits up into the eye of my rod and cracked the top eye. It reels in so much line in one rotation. So now, I have it on my flipping/punching rod. Thats all i use it for is to quickly reel fish up out of vegetation and timber. After playing with that reel i switched back to 7 gear ratio for most things and 6.3 gear ration for cranking and spinnerbaits and all that. These ultra fast reels aren't practical for most applications....the only thing I could really use it with was a very specific bait, a jdm bait at that.
I just bought a Favorite Soleus 6.6.1. And the brakes are the business. Want to get your cranking rod for it (that didn't sound right, but you know what I mean). And got my son a less mach1 combo and the dual brakes are good to. But the favorite feels better in hand.
I also have 2 Lews tournament pro reels. I love them but then pick up a Diawa CC80 for $50. The Diawa came close to the performance of the Lews. Then I wanted a deep crank reel. Research led me to a Diawa 150 5:? Gear ratio. That reel was as smooth as silk feels as nice as the lews and I think the breaking system is better. All that said I this yet purchase a Diawa Tatula SV, TWS, 103. This real is a step above in my opinion. Feel, smooth, have to work to get it to blow up and distance is comparable. And it dose not really blow up as much as fluff up. Much better better braking system. My $50 Diawa's are still in service but can feel the wear now (I'm out 4 hours a day fishing) and so far will be replace with another Tatula SV TWS 103.
Exactly the same happened to me, with the same reels, I like Lew's a lot, buuuut I love Daiwa!!!
The concept button is in the wrong spot bought that one and when you set the hook I got that button to release side plate everytime but inception is bad to the bone.
The tournament pro was the best $200 reel I’ve fished, since have graduated to higher end shimanos
I like left hand metaniums. Fished the pro ti as well but I don't like it as much as the Shimano.
100% It’s how it performs. I’ve been an ABU fan my whole life. It’s hard to go somewhere else when you believe in your equipment !!
Just wondering what you do with all your old stuff 😉 my son wants to get into bass tournaments, he's 14 and just got his first Bass boat
The grey thing in the back looks like a giant baitcast reel
the bait keeper is my favorite thing about my Lews TP for sure
That’s a cool deal
On a bad ,or really slow day. That skower rario helos alot as well.
The more frustrated you get. The faster to go as well... Despite the fact that you are "trying" to slow down. Caught myself doing that the ine time i attempted to film a day on the water.
Huh, I thought you were sponsored by lews? Love the info tho B-Lats! When you talk I listen!!!
More. Power !!!
I have the original Concept Z and for all the hate it seems to have gotten, its been great for me.
Come back in 3 years and let us know how it's holding up. Until then I will be throwing my Lew's reels. Thanks for the review.
I do the exact same thing. It's easier to speed up rather than slow down.
I love my Lew's tournament pro! Just one correction you said it has magnetic brakes but it actually has a dail adjustable centrifugal brakes and they work great if you keep the hub on the inside of the side plate clean...
Facts
You’re right! I just don’t really care what it’s called. I just ate about if it works ALL THE TIME. That’s the only thing that is significant to me.
@@BrianLatimerFishing I completely understand, I'm the same way for the most part...But I do prefer centrifugal brakes to magnetic brakes because it makes it easier for me to pitch...If you have issues with the brakes on the tournament pro just pop the side plate off and use your shirt tail to wipe the brass hub...It makes a big difference on my reel
Ok Brian, have you tried anything lighter on the Inception Reel? I have to save for a while to get a nice Reel and the reviews are great on the Inception.. Semper Fidelis my Friend