YEMA Urban Traveller - Fresh New Colours And Dials

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024

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  • @michaelschreiber2453
    @michaelschreiber2453 Рік тому +17

    I have just purchased this watch and I also have the prx 40mm, green waffle dial. The Yema urban traveller white dial in my eyes is better quality for the price. I paid $801 out the door for the Yema and $760 for the prx with tax. I do agree the band should be tapered more like the prx. My prx band has already been dented from everyday use😢, the 80 hour power reserve is nice but after wearing the Yema for about a week I am going to sell my prx and use the funds to get the CW 12 because they have similar case dimensions, size, dial design. Just can’t decide on the color. Either grey or ice blue. For the Yema it’s the unique case shape, dial design, and that it is 100% brushed and only alil polish. I got the watch in less then 5 days from France which was awesome. Got a lil travel case and a really cool hat as well. Overall I like the watch and in my opinion a great value compared to the prx. It’s going to be my new daily wear with my seiko alpinist and 38mm Hamilton Murph. I also own a Visitor Duneshore, Oris(big crown) 40mm date point, Tutor black bay heritage 41mm, Sinn Navigator 903 St, Longines heritage diver and a Hamilton intra Matic panda. Not saying this is the best watch out there but I am satisfied with my purchase and compared to my other watches the value is really good. Can’t wait to get the CW 12!

    • @frblaze2
      @frblaze2 4 місяці тому

      I've obsessing over this for weeks, aren't you afraid to dent your expensive watches now? It's so fragile, it baffles that even a 50,000 dollar watch can get damaged or destroyed from one drop or bump against the wall ...

    • @anggvoagg7881
      @anggvoagg7881 2 місяці тому

      Did u ever get the 12 if so how does it compare to the yema and prx??

    • @TheBammer1234
      @TheBammer1234 2 місяці тому

      Hey there! If you still own it, may I ask what you think of the watch now that it’s been 10 months?

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. Рік тому +11

    At first I thought, another watch company jumping on the integrated bracelet bandwagon, but it's actually quite beautiful! The way they designed the bracelet with wide middle sections make it nigh impossible to a incorporate a more drastic taper.

  • @Bonatno
    @Bonatno Рік тому +28

    CW now Yema, it’s good to be a watch enthusiast.

    • @nikkolomakaveli8295
      @nikkolomakaveli8295 Рік тому +4

      This integrated bracelet look is really catching on and I’m loving it too 😂

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn Рік тому +3

      CW The Twelve is a lot better quality but then again you play about twice as much for The Twelve, but I think it's worth it.

    • @Not-a-bot222
      @Not-a-bot222 Рік тому +5

      I agree and Jory from the time teller just claimed that it is the “dark ages” of watches. I completely disagree. It’s a golden era, you can buy anything you want for 2,000.00 or less from independents and micro brands. If you want value in luxury look no further than Tudor, oris, grand Seiko, even omega. Plus the lesser known brands like D Dornbluth, nomos, CW, Damasko etc…

    • @Explorer40mm
      @Explorer40mm 10 місяців тому

      People hate on the Tudor Royal, but have you tried one in 38? Shockingly nice in the black dial for cheaper than the CW and yema

    • @sightec3040
      @sightec3040 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Explorer40mmYeah. But 2300 € for a SW-200 is outrageous. You can find 500€ watches with the same Movement. That Tudor branding aint worth that much.

  • @timetowatch_francois
    @timetowatch_francois Рік тому +12

    Glad to see that Yema is creating great designs. They are an underrated brand in my eyes 🙂
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching 👍

    • @ErikS-
      @ErikS- 11 місяців тому

      Until you have one and need service...
      Never again Yema for me!

    • @timetowatch_francois
      @timetowatch_francois 11 місяців тому

      @@ErikS- - I’m surprised about that. Yema was acquired by Seiko a few decades ago and seemed to me they “cleaned up their act”.
      Sorry to hear that 😔

    • @k.g.3567
      @k.g.3567 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ErikS-What's the issue with their service?

  • @andrewantonowicz6454
    @andrewantonowicz6454 Рік тому +4

    Hey Peter, great to see reviews of some lesser publicised brands, particularly like the contrasting finishes on these cases shown really well on the bonus footage and loving the unbiased commentary.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Glad you like them Andrew, cheers

  • @watchmewatch9
    @watchmewatch9 10 місяців тому +2

    I bought the white/silver dial. It is an amazing value for the watch, hitting way above it's weight. In 3 weeks, nothing but praise from my side.

    • @TheBammer1234
      @TheBammer1234 2 місяці тому +1

      Any updates on your thoughts of this watch?

    • @watchmewatch9
      @watchmewatch9 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TheBammer1234 I am still loving it and the quality is solid.

    • @AndreiLucaa
      @AndreiLucaa 16 днів тому

      @@watchmewatch9that’s awesome to hear.

  • @squaretail12
    @squaretail12 Рік тому +6

    I wouldn't be so sure that the qa/qc issues will be resolved in full production. My Yema 63 heritage had to go back to france 3 times because the lume kept falling off of the applied indices. Thankfully, at least, it has a sellita movement. No way I'd trust an "in house" movement from them. Their marketing department is far more skilled than their watchmakers.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Hopefully this isn't the case with these pieces
      Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @wdou451
    @wdou451 Рік тому +3

    Peter with your cinematography skills you can even sell a dead horse. Yema makes beautiful watches, but their questionable QC and poor customer service have deterred me from buying a watch from them. But seriously I love the last 2 minutes of this video, It is like putting the watch on a catwalk. Perfect! Thanks for the upload

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +3

      Im going shopping for some horses...😊
      Cheers

  • @kart182
    @kart182 Рік тому +1

    Damn that's actually a really nice take on the integrated bracelet style!

  • @david12990
    @david12990 Рік тому +1

    Hi Peter - thanks for the video and some already mentioned the field is really filling in with some nice integrated bracelets. My only comment on the Yema is the indentations on the top case looks like “crud” catchers to me!

  • @hughmungus1572
    @hughmungus1572 Рік тому +5

    Rumor has it that the "in-house"-movement is actually just a cheap Chinese ETA clone. Maybe that's also the reason why it doesn't have a glass case back. That would be a shame because otherwise I would on the edge of buying it.

  • @fullymechanical9055
    @fullymechanical9055 Рік тому +5

    Have the wristmaster microrotor on order. Very similar to this with obviously a different movement. Thanks for the review Peter. Cheers.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Thats a nice piece and a very nice movement, ..enjoy 👍👍

  • @slowbluesmaster
    @slowbluesmaster Рік тому +11

    Too much recurring feedback from buyers/owners about QC issues and customer service. I'll pass.

  • @andrewd7586
    @andrewd7586 Рік тому +2

    Yea have some interesting models Peter. I bought the Navygraf Marine Nationale a couple of years ago & also a quartz Armee issue watch. I do have a vintage Yema, which whilst works ok, does probably need an overhaul. I have to say I like these new ones but for me at that price, maybe a screw down crown too!👍🏼

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing Andrew, cheers mate

  • @quarters-eye8922
    @quarters-eye8922 Рік тому +1

    Love Yema 👍👍👍
    Thank you for the excellent video.

  • @DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw
    @DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw Рік тому +2

    I’m really tempted by the salmon dial one.

  • @jaer.6540
    @jaer.6540 Рік тому +7

    IMHO, that bracelet doesnt taper enough...looks too chunky and a bit rough around the edges. Also, that case is a bit thick for what this is. The weight is wild too...165g??? yeesh

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +2

      I would have liked to see a bigger taper on that bracelet, I think its a must

  • @claudiocuomo2209
    @claudiocuomo2209 Рік тому +1

    As always...... Your videos are real art! 👍🖐🏽

  • @nikc1313
    @nikc1313 Рік тому +6

    Pay a little more and get the Christopher Ward. Much nicer watch and better finished.

    • @paulhiggins8774
      @paulhiggins8774 Рік тому

      My thoughts entirely

    • @geoffwatches
      @geoffwatches Рік тому

      I have the cw, haven't handled the yema but I'm inclined to agree from what I see here.

    • @geoffwatches
      @geoffwatches Рік тому

      Appreciate your honest review Peter!

    • @MeestroDavid
      @MeestroDavid Рік тому

      Not to mention the CW customer experience, which is wonderful...and the opposite of what I got from Yema.

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 Рік тому +2

    I think it’s one of those Marmite watches. You would expect a watch sent to you for review would be perfect

  • @felo6035
    @felo6035 Рік тому +3

    Very nice, and thank you for sharing Pete. I own the Yema Navygraf Heritage and it is a lovely watch. I agree with your assessment of this model. To me this Yema model is in the same bracket as the Tissot PRX auto and Christopher Ward The Twelve, although this a more expensive watch - do you agree?
    Thank you again, always a treat to watch your videos, and beautiful camera shots. Cheers

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Yeah definitely competing for the same market share
      cheers brother

    • @felo6035
      @felo6035 Рік тому +1

      @@PeterKotsa 👍

  • @Amen20
    @Amen20 Рік тому +3

    Nice watch, I would prefere bezel to be polished. It looks like it's unfinished to me.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Рік тому +2

    Pete-r breathtaking . ))

  • @nikkolomakaveli8295
    @nikkolomakaveli8295 Рік тому +1

    I was waiting for another PK video 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Ive been extremely busy with work lately (photography)
      Good to be back for a bit 👍

  • @K.J.H_
    @K.J.H_ 8 місяців тому +1

    Seems to be a bit heavy. Maybe this design would be better in Ti

  • @tyronepalma3854
    @tyronepalma3854 Рік тому

    A really nice looking watch. I wish brands wouldnt just reserve the interesting dials for their integrated models

  • @garydoherty600
    @garydoherty600 Рік тому +2

    Looks lovely but a taper to 19mm is no taper at all !

  • @dtac_10_29
    @dtac_10_29 Рік тому +1

    Contemplating between this and the Mido Multifort TV Big Date....

  • @LaPauseMontre
    @LaPauseMontre Рік тому +1

    It looks so great.

  • @owtoo11
    @owtoo11 Рік тому +3

    Just ordered the white one

    • @eggsII
      @eggsII Рік тому

      Will you come back to this post and describe your experience with the watch? How it runs, etc.

    • @owtoo11
      @owtoo11 Рік тому

      It arrived. Although it's a little on the heavy side it wears quite nicely. I was scared it would be too thick but it's just on the border. I got the silver dial and the hands are actually glossy black. The dial and hands don't have any of the problems shown in the video. It wears it's size a little bigger 39.5/40mm. Recommend!

  • @chrisb5986
    @chrisb5986 Рік тому +3

    A me too or me three watch.

  • @mohsenmoeen5036
    @mohsenmoeen5036 Рік тому +1

    A comparison with Tissot PRX would complete the review. The video was like this design is an invention by Yema. Nice comments though.

  • @ronnie3257
    @ronnie3257 9 місяців тому

    Much prefer this Yema to the CW twelve but I seem to be in the minority. Considering adding this one to my collection; already have a PRX 35mm which gets a lot of wrist time.

  • @HaonProductions
    @HaonProductions Рік тому +3

    Not bad, but there's a ton of competition in this style these days. I think this is just missing something to put it above the heap!

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Рік тому +1

    Yema stuff seems to be a bit "chinesey" in their fit and finish. Would save up and get a Christopher Ward The Twelve if I was in the market for an integrated bracelet watch. I'm not though as I'm not big on butterfly clasps but that's just me - I prefer flick-lock or twin trigger closures.

  • @Aggnog
    @Aggnog Рік тому +2

    I like it more than the micro-rotor traveler they had at 3x the price, especially the dial pattern is not as weird. The bezel pattern does nothing for me though since it serves no purpose, and the seconds hand looks kind of bad and it's triangle shape doesn't fit design very well.

  • @durandsimon5221
    @durandsimon5221 Рік тому +1

    It's okay but it'q gonna be tough against increasing compétition including PRX, Nivada Grenchen, CW and Direnzo...

  • @XjohnjohnX88
    @XjohnjohnX88 Рік тому +2

    Totally agree about the bracelet. It's really a shame.
    Top quality video as usual 👍

  • @whodeycinbengals
    @whodeycinbengals Рік тому +3

    Too bulky and chunky looking. I agree, had the bracelet had a taper and I think, that had the lug width not been 24, then that would have made this watch a home run.

  • @jeanlefranc3817
    @jeanlefranc3817 Рік тому +2

    This watch makes me worry that the « non round bezel - integrated bracelet-back to 70s » wave is not going away for some more time. 😔

  • @alexlazenby
    @alexlazenby Рік тому +1

    Love! Wanted to add a PRX auto to my collection - but the 40 was too big and the 35 too small. Prefer these dials too. Great review. So.... these prototypes... did you have to send them back... I'll buy the one with the poor dial printing 😄

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Hahaha, yes they are on their way back to Yema in France. To be honest you couldn't tell the discrepancy in that printing except under macro..😊

    • @alexlazenby
      @alexlazenby Рік тому

      @@PeterKotsa before I pull the trigger.... blue or Salmon?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      @@alexlazenby thats up to you...
      Personally the blue looked a little nicer than the Salmon, with the white was the most versatile..

  • @TheTrueHasenfeffer
    @TheTrueHasenfeffer Рік тому

    These really resemble the Twelve.

  • @Username.RandomNumbers
    @Username.RandomNumbers Рік тому +1

    Peter, do you already have or have you ever considered doing a behind the scenes video for how you film/photograph watches?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Ahh the tricks of the trade..
      I just use a cheap throw away film camera for the main footage and an home made box and pinhole camera for the b roll..
      Just kidding 😳😂😂😂😂
      I haven't considered doing a behind the scenes vid, l'll think about it, cheers 👍😊

  • @saodavi6267
    @saodavi6267 Рік тому +2

    Seems not as well executed as the CW Twelve for a similar price. PRX also seems more compelling, IMO.
    Lack of adequate taper on the bracelet and the overall thickness is an issue for me.

    • @Tonysoprano497
      @Tonysoprano497 Рік тому

      Totally agree Cw looks a whole lot more refined and better executed

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Рік тому +2

    Hi Peter
    I'm not shure I'd trust the movement .

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Thanks Junior, I suppose time will tell if these are reliable etc..
      Thanks for sharing bro

  • @topher.m
    @topher.m Рік тому +1

    If this had a screw down crown it would be a home run.

  • @haping1
    @haping1 Рік тому

    Great brand and great watches. Is it better than the PRX? In house movement... Well depends on the definition I guess...

  • @kyledriscollmusic
    @kyledriscollmusic Рік тому +1

    looks great, but the bracelet would look sexier with more taper

  • @buttonsama5751
    @buttonsama5751 Рік тому +1

    First bracelet links flare too much. Effective lug to lug is too long. A more tapering bracelet would be nice too bc it looks chunky

  • @nnikkem
    @nnikkem 11 місяців тому

    Does the silver dial one have black indicies? Or does the light make them different tone from the rest.

  • @alexnila4751
    @alexnila4751 3 місяці тому

    hi Peter. I saw you had both this Yema and the Maen Manhattan 37 in your hands. Wich one is better (also considering larger 18 cm wrist)? I don't like that the 39 Manhattan has the bump in price and also lack of seconds hand, so 37 would be the only option I'd consider. which one would you go for between that and the Yema?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  3 місяці тому +1

      I wouldn’t put it as better, but what’s more to your styling choice
      The Yama ‘feels’ more solid though than the Maen if that helps 👍

  • @LaDariusNorris
    @LaDariusNorris 10 місяців тому +1

    Am I crazy, or do these look like a mix of an AP Royal Oak and a Rolex OP? Maybe im crazy...

  • @kangjhha
    @kangjhha 4 місяці тому

    hmm.. why isn't everyone buying this? as much as integrated bracelets are currently and this one of few at 39mm

  • @asamisato876
    @asamisato876 Рік тому +2

    I will never understand the obsession with protruding endlinks. Fully removal end links are still somewhat acceptable, permanent ones on the case?? That's horrific

  • @Tonysoprano497
    @Tonysoprano497 Рік тому +1

    A little late to the party . Looks quite thick clunky and heavy for a 39 mm . Get the impression that the Cw is probably a lot better executed and refinement piece if you must have a cheaper integrated bracelet watch

  • @Wizzardus
    @Wizzardus Рік тому +1

    Nice dial, but I'm not sure of those indents on the "bezel", quite out of place :/

  • @fabricedoumax9802
    @fabricedoumax9802 Рік тому +1

    Wow... Corporate bashing in all its glory.... We see you, CW plants !

  • @yusufbest4475
    @yusufbest4475 Рік тому

    For this thickness, no offence but we can get similar or better from aliexpress brands.. at cheaper price too

  • @SeikoLeaks
    @SeikoLeaks Рік тому +2

    hey peter, what do you think of the Seiko Astron SBXY061?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      A really interesting piece that covers the best of many worlds..Ti, diamond shield coating, under 40mm, solar radio fix precision..the list goes on..👍

  • @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm
    @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm Рік тому +1

    I’ve seen the first generation movement, and if the second is more or less the same aesthetically… Then it is undecorated and not impressive… Visually anyway… I like the watch, and I think it’s priced appropriately…

  • @MrPINKFL0YD
    @MrPINKFL0YD Рік тому +1

    Pin and collars? No chance unless it's the new type with very long collars. Seiko put me off for life. Not enough taper on the bracelet as you said.

  • @MikeSmith-er1qs
    @MikeSmith-er1qs Рік тому

    Oh great, another Genta inspired watch…. Yay!!!

  • @stuartheyburn8741
    @stuartheyburn8741 Рік тому +1

    Nice one Peter.👍
    Yema do make some great looking watches but I think if you’re after a Gerald Genta style sports watch the Christopher Ward Twelve is a better option for not that much more. 👍

  • @robertrocha597
    @robertrocha597 Рік тому +1

    I would not be too sure that Yema will fix their QC issues. I love the brand but this is worth the risk. And that the price never would I spend the money on these bricks.

  • @zonnie20
    @zonnie20 Рік тому +1

    French PRX. Not sure how they want to compete with powermatic80.

  • @robynsjp
    @robynsjp Рік тому

    It looks better than a Nautilus.

  • @gustavolatobias2813
    @gustavolatobias2813 Рік тому

    Those are very nice, but what happened to your Tudor Aeronaut GMT watch 2012 model. You said it had Rolex DNA.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      I let it go about a year ago, to fund another piece

    • @gustavolatobias2813
      @gustavolatobias2813 Рік тому

      @@PeterKotsa I can understand that. However, I just bought that watch in the same exact configuration. It really is a beautiful piece......Definitely an overlooked treasure.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      @@gustavolatobias2813 totally agreed...enjoy it because they don't make them that refined any more without a huge premium $$$

  • @benjaminvis
    @benjaminvis Рік тому +1

    It's always difficult to value a watch when a pre-production version is sent where there are obvious points of attention. Especially if it wasn't associated with a comprehensive list of the improvements planned, how is one to judge the product accurately beyond a general sense of design and dimensions. What I take from your analysis and footage is that the case, bracelet, and crystal are well put together, but many other aspects could benefit from some form of refinement or development. Including, the articulation on the endlinks, which both extend too far and look a little uncomfortable. Only the second link drops right down, whereas in an ideal world they might apply to the first (endlink), especially if the lug to lug is already at 48mm. Personally, I like the intricate pattern on the dial, but am not won over by the execution. The printing execution is subpar. The textured area of the dial is smaller than the visible portion of the dial, so there is a sliver of flat dial before the rehaut. The pinion finishing is one of those unfavourable examples. The crown looks to be finished to such a different level of care that it is almost as if it's a different material altogether. And then there are design choices that I doubt, such as the lume colour vs. the white second hand. The thickness of the case. The slight gap where the recessed portions border the main (top) bezel. Indeed, the taper on the bracelet, which is a smidgen too slight. The variable execution of the centre portion of the hand stack: it does not succesfully match the finish texture of the dial, so that portion of the hands does not successfully 'disappear', while the brushed silver on the white does not add much contrast nor visual interest. Finally, is there still discussion about how 'in-house' Yema's in-house movements are? Don't get me wrong, I actually like several Yema pieces (some good divers, not my genre, but worth mentioning!), but this one as it stands I think leaves quite a bit to be desired and the grapevine on QC issues isn't too confidence inspiring either.

  • @sjonny-depp
    @sjonny-depp Рік тому

    Would you recommend this if you own a PRX?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      You'd probably be doubling up on a similar style of watch..so probably No

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 Рік тому

    Seems like a nice watch, but I need my watches to be 42mm dia or more before I'd even consider buying.

  • @Alex_Fung
    @Alex_Fung Рік тому

    Do you think this will fit a 6.75" wrist?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Im at 7" myself...1/4 of an inch is doable I think

    • @Alex_Fung
      @Alex_Fung Рік тому +1

      @@PeterKotsa thanks! It's between this or the CW the 12.

  • @derbagger22
    @derbagger22 Рік тому +2

    I would not spend money on Yema with their reputation for poor QC...

  • @droobie827
    @droobie827 Рік тому +5

    the integrated bracelet/octagonal watch fad is getting pretty played out

    • @jaer.6540
      @jaer.6540 Рік тому

      and the round case/oyster bracelet fad? That seems to be OK with everyone.

    • @droobie827
      @droobie827 Рік тому

      @@jaer.6540 thats the standard, hence the many aftermarket bands and bracelets

    • @droobie827
      @droobie827 Рік тому

      @@jaer.6540 most wall clocks and pocket watches are round, it works pretty well with the way the hands move

  • @otto16121970
    @otto16121970 Рік тому +2

    PRX ish

  • @peterboyce1422
    @peterboyce1422 Рік тому +1

    Peter, I love your reviews, love your photography, love Yema… however, these watches leave me feeling meh. They look like the bezel has fallen off. Sorry Yema, this design is a miss.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing Peter 👍
      Cheers mate

  • @marlowkaplan3584
    @marlowkaplan3584 11 місяців тому

    Great brand.. but im not a fsn of these at all

  • @simonwright6882
    @simonwright6882 Рік тому +1

    This one doesn't hit the mark for me, other brands are doing this style better. Cw, nivada grenchen & tissot to name a few.

  • @justinbjork5682
    @justinbjork5682 Рік тому +3

    Pin and collar for that kinda money? No thanks.

  • @leonm2407
    @leonm2407 Рік тому +1

    Ca plan pour nah

  • @donaleeesio
    @donaleeesio Рік тому

    The cheap quality of steel they used is so obvious just like tissot, let alone the finishing of the bracelet!

  • @kriskravt3428
    @kriskravt3428 Рік тому

    Dial pattern looks cheap. Like a surface of rubber

  • @bluemystic7501
    @bluemystic7501 Рік тому

    If it weren't a blatant 5711 ripoff I'd think it's attractive.

  • @mohammadgharavi5648
    @mohammadgharavi5648 Рік тому

    Yema!!! Service is horrible with quality that matches their service, I will not buy another…

  • @stephannordmann5346
    @stephannordmann5346 Рік тому +1

    39 mm a joke 🎉,👎

  • @alexfrost8645
    @alexfrost8645 2 місяці тому

    + or - 10 seconds per day ! … I’m out

  • @TomB09
    @TomB09 Рік тому

    boring watch