Love how the Tinder Swindler is seen by women as some kind of monster. He's just the male version of countless gold diggers that women see as role models and never criticise.
Exactly! They can't even fathom that a man turned the tables on women they are very terrible at taking a loss in life. Is like the tinder swindler is the boogie man.
The fun part is that they chose those man despite the fact they new deeply it was not a smart move... and yet they don't get accountability for the fact it was their decision! Crazy!
I love it when women mess up they say ,” she didn’t know any better” the lack of countability is out of the world with modern women. It’s never their fault. 😂
Modern women?! I say all women since the dawn of time! No doubt since social media its more visible and now woman not hiding as " you go ghirl" valadation all over the shop!! Not my world tho no chance but guys and I mean all need to stop being desperados and simps never understood guys even going to strip clubs mental! Even good looking guysi I know did so what the simps doing! God so sad! I rather have a Han shank! Stop putting them on a pedesastool! Tho simps will always be simps and that affects us real men! As they are then valadated to think it's ok to be bitches! Not on my waych
I meant if even good looking guys go you can imagine what the simps be doing and giving these whores in strip clubs! Mental as none would even piss on them even if the were on fire!
Amazing how women can overcomplicate something so simple as just be nice to the people you love, and just be happy (there should be zero drama always).
@slkrick3319 Michael hit the nail on the head, though, they have limitless options due to their online presence. So you're right that they can never be happy for long because there is always a new alpha, always a new Chad, always a new Tyrone she COULD be with
@@Billy-bc8pk just because you could have something better is no reason to be unhappy with what you have. The fact that you could drive a Ferrari isn’t a reason to be unhappy driving a Toyota Camry.
Since women are so easily influenced we should remove their ability to vote. We can't trust anyone that would vote one way on day 1, but vote completely different the next day "because they've been told something". Pathetic.
Accountability is kryptonite to women. If they take responsibility, they have to admit they are wrong or made a poor decision and God forbid a woman admits she's wrong
I love seeing the chick in black just melt in misery knowing That's exactly what she did and who she is as Mike is just spilling the raw Truth and facts. 😂😂
I literally panned down through the comments to find someone who commented on this. She is always in some head space but it's obvious she is awakening to the fact that he is explaining her personal predicament the more she sits in on these podcasts. They say they are happy but they know the ride will eventually end. They hope later than sooner but father time is lurking.
Mika Peterson left her stable husband and went to Romania to hit it off with A.Tate while her dad was in hospital in Russia... So much for J.Peterson's lessons
Dude, JP lessons are good if you want to actually listen to them and help yourself. But he has no influence over anyone to stop them to fuck up their life. I think he was too easy on her when growing up cause she had serious health problems and she is their only child. But JP is good read when it comes to his books and lectures. He understands human nature better then us regular people. A lof of people said he helped them get on track and do something with their lives in the end. He is the guy to listen when you are procrastinating for example. Helped me a lot. I wasted over 10 years of my life doing nothing at all, going around with no purpose and blaming everyone else. Its an easy trap to fall into these days. Got a job, started to train, work on my hobby and that brough me to the point of life when I stoped hating myself.
@@ss4e982 yes, he gives a lot of good lessons, but when he says "you need to be responsible" when talking about getting married or helping others, you need to ask yourself "do I have authority over that which I am responsible for?" - he always leaves that part out
@@victorashul Then dont have kids. Simple as that. No one teaches their kid to kill but we still have murderers. Sometimes parents dont have time for kids cause they work all the time. Your job is to teach them the lessons but once they are on their own they can do whatever they want. She is a grown woman. He can talk all he wants but if no one is listening then there is no point. This is why I said if you listen to him you can change your life around. If you watch some YT and then forget about it in next 10 min then thats on you bro. God said live life without sin. Did anyone listened to him? Fuck no. And thats God we talking about. Why would someone then listen to JP? Takes a lot of courage to realize our lives are a mess cause of us alone. Most of us doesent have that kind of balls. ANother example is David Goggins. Dude knows he is gonna be a lazy bum if he stops training. He is afraid of that. So he does what he does to stay normal. Somethimes its a lof of effort and sometimes its little things.
The women are saying that the “good guys” are nefariously grooming women, but the “bad boys” are just an experience that women have to go through? If this isn’t the problem with relationships and isn’t a warning sign to normal men, I don’t know what is!🤷🏾♂️
I love how the blonde girl with the blue top is getting really nervous in the first 20 secs of the video when he’s stating that womens obsession with confusing drama for feelings is what kills healthy relationships 😂😂😂 she’s trying to act so normal but it’s clear she had this problem herself lol
It's why they all congregate with each other; self-soothing. It's why women like these get jealous when another gets a good man and is off the market. Her support system has decreased. So she selfishly wants to sabotage that relationship to get her friend/support buddy back into the group.
If adults can be groomed, then why is it only adult women? How would it not be grooming (and extremely common) when women keep their orbiters to extract attention and resources with no intention of reciprocating?
@@gameon2000 Haha, right? It's like Captain America who is 42 getting married recently and eveeyone ñosing their shit because she's 26 and how young and impressionable she is. So we're in agreement, no women doctors, yes?
He can make his point without insulting Jordan Peterson. I don't like people who have to insult someone with their remarks just because they think they have a superior argument.
Men go through toxic relationships and do everything to keep a good woman. Women go through toxic relationships, find a good man, be toxic, ruin that relationship and then blame the man
I love how they can claim to be “trained” by men as opposed to taking accountability for the choices they made. They know dam well they knew what they were doing but it’s an easy way to not take responsibility.
The “trouble” with emotionally healthy men is that women cannot use such men to hide their own depravity and cannot blame them for their bad behaviour and bad choices.
...and breast implants, vape, ugly tattoos, too much make up, fake nails, dress where the boobs fall out she is just a senior specialist in bad decisions😂
If youre in your 30's. And if you find a woman thats 23. The last thing we would do is. Emotionally damage them. We are at a place that we can support a family. And are ready to take that step with the right woman
these women are delusional and cope hard af. they absolutely hate that a man that has hit shit together in his 30s can get with a girl in her 20s and form a healthy relationship and family cuz they know they can't have that. Michael is too nice, I prefer FNF when myron tells these 304s how it is to their face
Some of us yes. However Many men arent great mindsets just like many women. Those men just want to sleep around or cheat. (ive seen and heard plenty of various age groups do this).
Would have loved for rollo or Michael to have addressed the tinder swindler guy more in depth. The look of disgust in these women faces when his name got brought up should have warranted a discussion about how there's no difference from your average gold digger to some one like the tinder swindler.
Homegirl in the glasses was so close to that point when she was talking about how a man who is well positioned in life can make, or break a young impressionable girl. Yah, no shit! The choice of partner is the MOST important choice that you make. The whole Prince Charming fantasy is literally an older, established man rescuing a younger girl.
The girl in black to his left,...her body language says "they're talking about someone like me" and "I'm uncomfortable/self conscious right now. with that and my looks on camera"
PERFECT Michael, The example of your grandparents drove the point home about the Delusional world today's so called Modern Women ride the rollercoaster on. They're trapped in a a Disney fantasy fueled by Feminism on steroids. Women of the past dealt with a totally different reality which is why you had relationships spanning 40 to 60 years. These women confessed they want to live in that Hollywood created matrix of being swept off their feet and living in an unearned lifestyle of pleasure and extravagance. The Brunette in Black seemed bored. I dated 5 women in my youth that were damaged in this way and the affect was scary. They chased after the Hot abusers and the Hard working nice guys were passed over for the fantasy. Great Discussion
Man A meets all her high standards and expectations and has a nice personality, Man B meets all her high standards and expectations but has a trashy personality. Man C doesn’t meet any of her high standards and expectations but has a nice personality. They’ll friendzone Man A asking him to love her once she hits the wall. Ignore Man C and go online labelling him as “a creep” saying how “they don’t want men approaching them”. Choose to date Man B, the one who will treat them like shit, then go online with fake tears about how “men are trash” saying “I want a man who will treat me right” YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP 😂 They don’t think before they speak, or ever rethink about the stupid decisions they did. Everything they do to them is right and if it is ever wrong, we are to blame for it.
And this is why you never date women who date waste men aka bad boys there broken and don't need fixing its very important to try and find out what there last boyfriends where like and if there all shitty men run because she will never be happy or treat you nice
So if the man destroys the relationship, it’s his fault. If a woman destroys the relationship it’s from her past trauma from men…..zero accountability as usual.
Zero accountability and zero autonomy (based on their own words) for strong, fierce, independent, ''don't need no men women'', no matter what the age...hope ya'll gents were paying attention and taking mental notes on their reactions to what Michael/ Rollo laid out. Wild.
I'm currently going over research regarding women's attraction to Dark Triad traits, and what we're seeing in the case of British women, is that the more partners they have, the more they desire narcissistic men. Perhaps this has to do with why men select for younger women as well.
Love when they start talking about trauma from past relationships. All I think about is Tate saying he didnt want older chicks because of all the trauma and all the feminist calling him insecure. The truth hurts
A few may. If they can take accountability and also police themselves… then this signals a real possibility. Watch the behavior and the philosophy… how close together?
Get straight to the real base root of the issue---we're talking about women raised without positive male role models with whom they had positive male/female relationships to compare down the road. Whatever your status, friends or lovers, you always go back to the basics of trust, honesty, integrity, and cooperative support when it comes to a long-term relationship. We learn this from the men and women we grew up with. If you're a guy and your relationship with your sisters and mother/grandmother sucked, then you will not go out and have a good basis for relationships with any women. Vice versa for the ladies. Just the way life goes.
And also the reason men have approached anxiety is because men are territorial and back then if you approached the wrong woman you were liable to get hit over the head with a rock and be killed from the jealous man.
It's more just a very primitive and tribal thing. If we're rejected by a woman we could be rejected by the tribe. If we're rejected by the tribe it means we'll be exiled from it and will surely die out in the wilderness without our compadres rejection = death
My last girlfriend checked out other guys, lied to me constantly, threatened suicide multiple times to manipulate me, tried to turn several of my best friends against me, and even physically assaulted me multiple times. And yet still had the nerve to tell people I was the abusive one. And mind you, I'm not saying I was without my faults by any means, but I certainly never did anything to intentionally upset her or damage our relationship. At the end of the day all I wanted was a tranquil, loving relationship. But she sought to destroy it in whatever ways she could. This isn't even half the story either, but enough of a summary for it all. I thank God every day that I never married her. I've actually gotten my life together a good bit ever since we split 4 years ago.
Dude I was in an almost identical situation. She tried to have me arrested (and failed). Threatened to crash my car in order to remove herself. She’s married to some poor shmuck now who probably thinks she’s an angel.
@@JabbaDeezNutsBordeline for sure. The worst situation to be involved in, cause they can be so loving and sweet too, you get trapped, and she won’t let you leave either.
I swear the girl on the right in black was just sitting there trying to not listen to what your saying while slowly realization how delusion she is (and then blaming it on men Im sure)
You don't understand why he has "female friends". A lot of you, your problem isn't women, it's you have zero social skills. If you get women you have "female friends". You don't know anything about atmosphere. So your idea of female friends is the red pill, women are useless friends. Women are social friends. They open doors and will give you business opportunities. Among other things. If you aren't having any benefit in your relationship, it's because you don't require it, and you offer none either.
"Grooming" is just life,if a women even uses that word to describe her life,she is probably not mentally mature enough to be trusted with a child's safety.
Older women will always throw shame for coaching/training/grooming younger women to be the wife you need them to be, but they overlook the fact that instead of being trained by the man they want they get trained by instagram, tik tok, their corporate job, chad and tyrone, and dysfunctional relationships. Everyone has a master, whether it be a person, money, or a job Everyone is a product of their environment, so getting lit in the club and partying on yachts for years is obviously going to result in skewed views on life
She doesn’t know any better? As if they don’t see their own patterns, it’s the shifting of blame back to the previous man. My ex who I dumped in September told me how abusive and nasty her ex-boyfriend was but when I left her because of her drinking and violent insecurity, she stocked me and tried to make me out to be the stalker, then attacked her ex-boyfriend online and he reached out to me to let me know that same day she came to find me at the gym that I go to 30 miles away from her she had attacked him online telling him how much she hated him after 2 years of not speaking. She came to the gym I go to with no membership and accused me of harassing her, I called the police and she got a pfa against me, I showed the gym surveillance video with sound that disproved her claims and they didn’t care. Men protect yourselves
I hate it when chicks say “oh it’s not her fault she has damage/trauma from the past or a previous relationship.” Then why is she in another relationship without dealing with said trauma? It doesn’t make it better all that tells me is that she has no sense of accountability or responsibility.
The one chick "I've had the experience so I know..I've been married twice, engaged 5 times"... Who has the time for that? Obviously none of it "worked out" but there is a common factor.....HER.
2:10 why is being "trained" always considered a negative in these conversations? To be trained in any other context is for the betterment and competence of the trainee. Trainnees also get compensation. Trainees get provided for and given help. And if they do move to another "job," they're better prepared for an increase.
This "being trained" stuff the blond talks about around 2 minute or so is just NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for dumb decisions in her past and blame shifting now. Blaming younger women who are naive and blaming men in general because she made bad decisions. That's ridiculous and pathetic. Ah, yeah, now I understand her hatred and jealousy. Around 4:00 she tells that she's been married multiple times and engaged even more times. It's on you lady. Grow up, and start taking responsibility. I'm 100% sure that she doesn't even look at average guys after all the sh1t she'd gone through but she'll easily let any Chad Chadkowitz use her then dump her.
Fake filters makeup ect hair abd nails fake = A.I version of you thinking your views likes loves w e messages dms are for you! Let me tell u a secret victoria😂 Thats is not you!
She literally had checked out of the conversations and chose to be bored and just look MISERABLE scrolling through her phone. It was annoying me watching her bored ass face. It was distracting, i would have kicked her off the panel or forced her to engage.
I dont get the point of all these podcasts there all the same! So called adults sitting around talking about BS with no real substance! Here is the solution to mens problem in the west just ignore these fucking women! I mean stop entertaining all their nonsense and talking about it. Everytime these men entertain and try to convince these lost and already doomed women the men lose! Ignore them, ignore them, ignore them problem solved!🤦
None of these shows have regular guys on there to confront these women and prove their points. 0. All these dudes are cut spend probably 2-3 hours in the gym a day. They are not the average guy.
Love how the Tinder Swindler is seen by women as some kind of monster. He's just the male version of countless gold diggers that women see as role models and never criticise.
"No no, b-but... Im different."
@@AnthonySforzaLMAO!
talking facts!
Exactly! They can't even fathom that a man turned the tables on women they are very terrible at taking a loss in life. Is like the tinder swindler is the boogie man.
Exactlyyyy
Woman: we are damaged from the past and ruin good men's lifes
Men: therefore body count matters 💥👈😉
Divorce rate is 90% for women with 6+ bodycount, 6% for virgins at time of marriage.
The fun part is that they chose those man despite the fact they new deeply it was not a smart move... and yet they don't get accountability for the fact it was their decision! Crazy!
@@georgedang449 That's a huge difference! Where did you learn that? Can you post the reference?
Bingo!
@@georgedang449is that a real stat please post if so.
I love it when women mess up they say ,” she didn’t know any better” the lack of countability is out of the world with modern women. It’s never their fault. 😂
Kryptonite man!
Modern women?! I say all women since the dawn of time! No doubt since social media its more visible and now woman not hiding as " you go ghirl" valadation all over the shop!! Not my world tho no chance but guys and I mean all need to stop being desperados and simps never understood guys even going to strip clubs mental! Even good looking guysi I know did so what the simps doing! God so sad! I rather have a Han shank! Stop putting them on a pedesastool! Tho simps will always be simps and that affects us real men! As they are then valadated to think it's ok to be bitches! Not on my waych
I meant if even good looking guys go you can imagine what the simps be doing and giving these whores in strip clubs! Mental as none would even piss on them even if the were on fire!
Many Modern women are children
They just play stupid....still not a good look!
“I’ve been married twice, and engaged five times.” Walking 🚩
I bet 3 of those engagement rings were Cubic Zirconium.
Who would touch these crazies.
Amazing how women can overcomplicate something so simple as just be nice to the people you love, and just be happy (there should be zero drama always).
There never happy for long tho...that's the issue. Always trying to "level up" to the next best thing
Yet another concept my ex couldn’t wrap her brain around.
Nah. They just trying to gaslight and avood accountability
@slkrick3319 Michael hit the nail on the head, though, they have limitless options due to their online presence. So you're right that they can never be happy for long because there is always a new alpha, always a new Chad, always a new Tyrone she COULD be with
@@Billy-bc8pk just because you could have something better is no reason to be unhappy with what you have. The fact that you could drive a Ferrari isn’t a reason to be unhappy driving a Toyota Camry.
"I was being trained" is just another way to avoid responsibility and accountability.
She also pretty much put herself on the same level as a dog lol.
She has been engaged 5 times and nobody went through with it speaks volumes.
Since women are so easily influenced we should remove their ability to vote.
We can't trust anyone that would vote one way on day 1, but vote completely different the next day "because they've been told something".
Pathetic.
Accountability is kryptonite to women. If they take responsibility, they have to admit they are wrong or made a poor decision and God forbid a woman admits she's wrong
what do they think learning is?
I love seeing the chick in black just melt in misery knowing That's exactly what she did and who she is as Mike is just spilling the raw Truth and facts. 😂😂
She looked really uncomfortable the whole time, must’ve hit a nerve.
Yeah I noticed that too, glaringly obvious that the hit dog is hollering loud as hell in her brain (on multiple videos
Every clip she looks like she wants to cancel herself 😂
She looks like a bored child at a table of Adults.
I literally panned down through the comments to find someone who commented on this. She is always in some head space but it's obvious she is awakening to the fact that he is explaining her personal predicament the more she sits in on these podcasts. They say they are happy but they know the ride will eventually end. They hope later than sooner but father time is lurking.
Mika Peterson left her stable husband and went to Romania to hit it off with A.Tate while her dad was in hospital in Russia... So much for J.Peterson's lessons
Peterson is clueless. They live in the fantasy of 1950s while his own daughter is the perfect example of modern women of 2023.
She is a single mother 304
Dude, JP lessons are good if you want to actually listen to them and help yourself. But he has no influence over anyone to stop them to fuck up their life. I think he was too easy on her when growing up cause she had serious health problems and she is their only child. But JP is good read when it comes to his books and lectures. He understands human nature better then us regular people. A lof of people said he helped them get on track and do something with their lives in the end. He is the guy to listen when you are procrastinating for example. Helped me a lot. I wasted over 10 years of my life doing nothing at all, going around with no purpose and blaming everyone else. Its an easy trap to fall into these days. Got a job, started to train, work on my hobby and that brough me to the point of life when I stoped hating myself.
@@ss4e982 yes, he gives a lot of good lessons, but when he says "you need to be responsible" when talking about getting married or helping others, you need to ask yourself "do I have authority over that which I am responsible for?" - he always leaves that part out
@@victorashul Then dont have kids. Simple as that. No one teaches their kid to kill but we still have murderers. Sometimes parents dont have time for kids cause they work all the time. Your job is to teach them the lessons but once they are on their own they can do whatever they want. She is a grown woman. He can talk all he wants but if no one is listening then there is no point. This is why I said if you listen to him you can change your life around. If you watch some YT and then forget about it in next 10 min then thats on you bro. God said live life without sin. Did anyone listened to him? Fuck no. And thats God we talking about. Why would someone then listen to JP? Takes a lot of courage to realize our lives are a mess cause of us alone. Most of us doesent have that kind of balls. ANother example is David Goggins. Dude knows he is gonna be a lazy bum if he stops training. He is afraid of that. So he does what he does to stay normal. Somethimes its a lof of effort and sometimes its little things.
The women are saying that the “good guys” are nefariously grooming women, but the “bad boys” are just an experience that women have to go through? If this isn’t the problem with relationships and isn’t a warning sign to normal men, I don’t know what is!🤷🏾♂️
They ALWAYS try to justify their bull$#!+ choices, as far as I'm concerned they all deserve what they get for making bad choices
"He just looked SO HOT in that orange jumpsuit!" "It gave me the crotch tingles!" "I couldn't help myself." Rinse and repeat.
Hence the reason that body count matters to all men
They are never the problem, they are always perfect he was just a “narcicist” 😂😂😂
The funniest thing is that they are actually the narcissists! 😂 It is quite literally the default for women now especially with social media
Trauma is something people get from war, car accidents or near death experiences not from someone ghosting you on social media.
😂😂
Because none of these simps ever tell these women to suck it up buttercup.
Thank God someone else said it. I saw a young dude lose all four limbs in Afghanistan and it drives me crazy hearing these stupid buzz words
pump&dump is trauma for 304, if Chad choose younger with out bags from past
Trauma is our birthright
Said American women
I love how the blonde girl with the blue top is getting really nervous in the first 20 secs of the video when he’s stating that womens obsession with confusing drama for feelings is what kills healthy relationships 😂😂😂 she’s trying to act so normal but it’s clear she had this problem herself lol
It's why they all congregate with each other; self-soothing. It's why women like these get jealous when another gets a good man and is off the market. Her support system has decreased. So she selfishly wants to sabotage that relationship to get her friend/support buddy back into the group.
If adults can be groomed, then why is it only adult women? How would it not be grooming (and extremely common) when women keep their orbiters to extract attention and resources with no intention of reciprocating?
Also... if they are so impressionable and easily manipulated, why are they voting?
@@AnthonySforza hah, true. whatever answer serves their purpose at the time
@@AnthonySforza THAT'S why they got the vote rights
@@gameon2000
Haha, right? It's like Captain America who is 42 getting married recently and eveeyone ñosing their shit because she's 26 and how young and impressionable she is. So we're in agreement, no women doctors, yes?
Schrodinger's feminism.....
He can make his point without insulting Jordan Peterson. I don't like people who have to insult someone with their remarks just because they think they have a superior argument.
You can tell my her demeanor that the brunette on the right wants no part of what Michael is saying. MAJOR RED FLAG if you ask me.
She’s behaving like a bored/angry 5 year old girl 🤡
Men go through toxic relationships and do everything to keep a good woman. Women go through toxic relationships, find a good man, be toxic, ruin that relationship and then blame the man
Guy's this is why you can't fix her. She's damaged beyond fixing. She's feral. There is no recovery.
Also, you aren’t a therapist.
It's better for a woman to be feral than to settle for low status bitch minded "males" from modern society.
You've been engaged 5 times? Honey, you're the problem.
I sensed a little pride in her voice, too, when she said that.
It's not a flex.
I love how they can claim to be “trained” by men as opposed to taking accountability for the choices they made. They know dam well they knew what they were doing but it’s an easy way to not take responsibility.
The “trouble” with emotionally healthy men is that women cannot use such men to hide their own depravity and cannot blame them for their bad behaviour and bad choices.
Married twice engaged 5 times. Wow.
Yea... I heard that and immediately thought "Now there's someone to ignore when trying to get out of a house of zombies."
...and breast implants, vape, ugly tattoos, too much make up, fake nails, dress where the boobs fall out she is just a senior specialist in bad decisions😂
I want to say she is
for the streets, but I think even the streets dont want her anymore
She belongs to the streets!!
Now, she's in Vegas... gaslighting she can make chicken salad out of chichen shit.
I was really happy in my life, could get girls easy until social media took off. It's ruined dating, relationships and create narcs and anxiety
Could be an age thing Maybe?
This blonde woman is so broken
5 engagements and 2 marriages totally broken non-traditional useless existence.
The real problem is people using escapism to avoid their emotional damage instead of humbling themselves to transformation.
Shut up then. Problem solved.
If youre in your 30's. And if you find a woman thats 23. The last thing we would do is. Emotionally damage them. We are at a place that we can support a family. And are ready to take that step with the right woman
these women are delusional and cope hard af. they absolutely hate that a man that has hit shit together in his 30s can get with a girl in her 20s and form a healthy relationship and family cuz they know they can't have that. Michael is too nice, I prefer FNF when myron tells these 304s how it is to their face
Some of us yes. However Many men arent great mindsets just like many women. Those men just want to sleep around or cheat. (ive seen and heard plenty of various age groups do this).
And always always always it takes about 3 sentences for every woman to complete the circle and become the victim...😂
Love it.
In one ear and out the other for these 304s
Yup
Straight through, with no slowing down.
To be fair, barraging them with statistics is boring to most people
Especially to women, who are not affected by it whatsoever
Looking at the Jesse Preston chick... absolutely bored with Michael's lecturing lol
@@ankurama42not to people who use logic.
Would have loved for rollo or Michael to have addressed the tinder swindler guy more in depth. The look of disgust in these women faces when his name got brought up should have warranted a discussion about how there's no difference from your average gold digger to some one like the tinder swindler.
Homegirl in the glasses was so close to that point when she was talking about how a man who is well positioned in life can make, or break a young impressionable girl.
Yah, no shit! The choice of partner is the MOST important choice that you make. The whole Prince Charming fantasy is literally an older, established man rescuing a younger girl.
The girl in black to his left,...her body language says "they're talking about someone like me" and "I'm uncomfortable/self conscious right now. with that and my looks on camera"
She is ALWAYS pissed off for some reason
"I cannot tell a lie. It is definitely all your fault." - Every woman
PERFECT Michael, The example of your grandparents drove the point home about the Delusional world today's so called Modern Women ride the rollercoaster on. They're trapped in a a Disney fantasy fueled by Feminism on steroids. Women of the past dealt with a totally different reality which is why you had relationships spanning 40 to 60 years. These women confessed they want to live in that Hollywood created matrix of being swept off their feet and living in an unearned lifestyle of pleasure and extravagance. The Brunette in Black seemed bored. I dated 5 women in my youth that were damaged in this way and the affect was scary. They chased after the Hot abusers and the Hard working nice guys were passed over for the fantasy. Great Discussion
Man A meets all her high standards and expectations and has a nice personality,
Man B meets all her high standards and expectations but has a trashy personality.
Man C doesn’t meet any of her high standards and expectations but has a nice personality.
They’ll friendzone Man A asking him to love her once she hits the wall. Ignore Man C and go online labelling him as “a creep” saying how “they don’t want men approaching them”. Choose to date Man B, the one who will treat them like shit, then go online with fake tears about how “men are trash” saying “I want a man who will treat me right”
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP 😂
They don’t think before they speak, or ever rethink about the stupid decisions they did. Everything they do to them is right and if it is ever wrong, we are to blame for it.
And this is why you never date women who date waste men aka bad boys there broken and don't need fixing its very important to try and find out what there last boyfriends where like and if there all shitty men run because she will never be happy or treat you nice
married twice, engaged 5 times lol.... run
So if the man destroys the relationship, it’s his fault. If a woman destroys the relationship it’s from her past trauma from men…..zero accountability as usual.
The “body count” conversation makes women SOOOOOOO uncomfortable. You can see it in their face….
"Trauma" is the new "Bro"
Zero accountability and zero autonomy (based on their own words) for strong, fierce, independent, ''don't need no men women'', no matter what the age...hope ya'll gents were paying attention and taking mental notes on their reactions to what Michael/ Rollo laid out. Wild.
I'm currently going over research regarding women's attraction to Dark Triad traits, and what we're seeing in the case of British women, is that the more partners they have, the more they desire narcissistic men. Perhaps this has to do with why men select for younger women as well.
same with pr0n or drugs. you need more and harder to get the same high as before. your synapses adapt and butn out.
Love when they start talking about trauma from past relationships. All I think about is Tate saying he didnt want older chicks because of all the trauma and all the feminist calling him insecure. The truth hurts
Women never heal gentleman and a woman who talks spirituality is always the one with a broken soul
A few may. If they can take accountability and also police themselves… then this signals a real possibility.
Watch the behavior and the philosophy… how close together?
Men are built to get stronger if broken. When women get broken they break
BOOM!
Total truth bomb.
Wow! Absolutely ALWAYS the man's fault.
All my exes. They had it good and then wanted the excitement. Imagine thinking men are grooming that just want to keep you safe
Accountability is Kryptonite.
Michael Sartain, I am not involved in the manosphere space but I'm very impressed with your eloquence and articulation of your talking points.
Girl in the blacks head "OMG they are talking sbout me"
Get straight to the real base root of the issue---we're talking about women raised without positive male role models with whom they had positive male/female relationships to compare down the road. Whatever your status, friends or lovers, you always go back to the basics of trust, honesty, integrity, and cooperative support when it comes to a long-term relationship. We learn this from the men and women we grew up with. If you're a guy and your relationship with your sisters and mother/grandmother sucked, then you will not go out and have a good basis for relationships with any women. Vice versa for the ladies. Just the way life goes.
And also the reason men have approached anxiety is because men are territorial and back then if you approached the wrong woman you were liable to get hit over the head with a rock and be killed from the jealous man.
It's more just a very primitive and tribal thing. If we're rejected by a woman we could be rejected by the tribe. If we're rejected by the tribe it means we'll be exiled from it and will surely die out in the wilderness without our compadres
rejection = death
My last girlfriend checked out other guys, lied to me constantly, threatened suicide multiple times to manipulate me, tried to turn several of my best friends against me, and even physically assaulted me multiple times. And yet still had the nerve to tell people I was the abusive one. And mind you, I'm not saying I was without my faults by any means, but I certainly never did anything to intentionally upset her or damage our relationship. At the end of the day all I wanted was a tranquil, loving relationship. But she sought to destroy it in whatever ways she could. This isn't even half the story either, but enough of a summary for it all. I thank God every day that I never married her. I've actually gotten my life together a good bit ever since we split 4 years ago.
Dude I was in an almost identical situation. She tried to have me arrested (and failed). Threatened to crash my car in order to remove herself. She’s married to some poor shmuck now who probably thinks she’s an angel.
AWALT
Was she Borderline by any chance?
@@OlviMasta77 Never diagnosed, but I'd bet the deed to my house she was.
@@JabbaDeezNutsBordeline for sure. The worst situation to be involved in, cause they can be so loving and sweet too, you get trapped, and she won’t let you leave either.
I swear the girl on the right in black was just sitting there trying to not listen to what your saying while slowly realization how delusion she is (and then blaming it on men Im sure)
She had 2 failed marriages and 5 failed engagements and thinks she knows how to do it right 😂😂😂 girl you blew your chances 😂😂😂😂
The look on those women is like: " I understand everything you said but I'm a do me ". They won't change not in a lifetime.
Michael: watch my red pill content.
Also Michael: “my female friends”
😂😂😂
You don't understand why he has "female friends". A lot of you, your problem isn't women, it's you have zero social skills. If you get women you have "female friends". You don't know anything about atmosphere. So your idea of female friends is the red pill, women are useless friends. Women are social friends. They open doors and will give you business opportunities. Among other things. If you aren't having any benefit in your relationship, it's because you don't require it, and you offer none either.
He’s a champion of men ! A real life robin hood for men aha yea!! Tender swindler is a hero!
"Grooming" is just life,if a women even uses that word to describe her life,she is probably not mentally mature enough to be trusted with a child's safety.
Women take zero personal accountability
How exactly are older men training, younger women they can never give any specific examples when they bring that subject up it’s just pure cope
Never learned the definition of accountability
Older women will always throw shame for coaching/training/grooming younger women to be the wife you need them to be, but they overlook the fact that instead of being trained by the man they want they get trained by instagram, tik tok, their corporate job, chad and tyrone, and dysfunctional relationships.
Everyone has a master, whether it be a person, money, or a job
Everyone is a product of their environment, so getting lit in the club and partying on yachts for years is obviously going to result in skewed views on life
Women have masters. Men can be independent.
She hasn't been through it, men have been through her.
Chick in black is so frustrated just listening.
She doesn’t know any better? As if they don’t see their own patterns, it’s the shifting of blame back to the previous man. My ex who I dumped in September told me how abusive and nasty her ex-boyfriend was but when I left her because of her drinking and violent insecurity, she stocked me and tried to make me out to be the stalker, then attacked her ex-boyfriend online and he reached out to me to let me know that same day she came to find me at the gym that I go to 30 miles away from her she had attacked him online telling him how much she hated him after 2 years of not speaking. She came to the gym I go to with no membership and accused me of harassing her, I called the police and she got a pfa against me, I showed the gym surveillance video with sound that disproved her claims and they didn’t care. Men protect yourselves
The chick in black is zoning out. She's probably one of the problems 😂😂
Accountability is beyond their capability!
2 marriages / 5 engagements / talk about red flags 🚩 lmao 🤣
I hate it when chicks say “oh it’s not her fault she has damage/trauma from the past or a previous relationship.” Then why is she in another relationship without dealing with said trauma? It doesn’t make it better all that tells me is that she has no sense of accountability or responsibility.
Why does she keep touching herself and playing with her hair? Just leave lady if you don't want to be there
que Taylor Swift's Anti Hero - "I'm The Problem, It's Me"
The one chick "I've had the experience so I know..I've been married twice, engaged 5 times"... Who has the time for that? Obviously none of it "worked out" but there is a common factor.....HER.
the gurls hate on the younger females who are their competition....they don't get better with age or experience....
Women all want to believe they are the exception but the truth is that the majority of them are all pretty much the same just in a different package.
High body count means people don't value sex, marriage, and family? I'm shocked!
2:10 why is being "trained" always considered a negative in these conversations? To be trained in any other context is for the betterment and competence of the trainee. Trainnees also get compensation. Trainees get provided for and given help. And if they do move to another "job," they're better prepared for an increase.
Married twice, engaged 5 times.
And that’s why she’s against dudes dating younger…
Cause she is fkd in the market.
They should start making the girls come on the podcast in regular clothes and without makeup
It must be hard to grow as a person I nothing is ever your fault or partially your fault.
The day women begin taking accountability is the day the world stops spinning.
This women with the black hairs gotta go. Every video she is sitting watching her phone. About as much fun as a bag of sand
I’ve been saying the same thing. Bring someone else…
This "being trained" stuff the blond talks about around 2 minute or so is just NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for dumb decisions in her past and blame shifting now. Blaming younger women who are naive and blaming men in general because she made bad decisions. That's ridiculous and pathetic.
Ah, yeah, now I understand her hatred and jealousy. Around 4:00 she tells that she's been married multiple times and engaged even more times. It's on you lady. Grow up, and start taking responsibility. I'm 100% sure that she doesn't even look at average guys after all the sh1t she'd gone through but she'll easily let any Chad Chadkowitz use her then dump her.
Shes a walking red flag I would run
When Sartain goes off on his monologues 🔥
Gamma... Girls thinking not my monkey, not my circus.
304 everywhere... is that scenario a representation of what the actual american woman is?
Imagine your mom was one of them LOL
😆
Funny comment.
When 304s get older start to stink
Either you are young, controllable idiots OR strong 💪independent women. CANT be both!
lol the black hair girl is pissed
I'd be bored too. 😄
4:08 is when everyone realized this lady is a perfect example of what this conversation is about
I bet she broke all her relationships. Let her talk, she'll flex about it, it was all about her survival, or a better opportunity.
Men will file for divorce if the woman cheats or if she is quarrelsome.
That Dude ia a beast...and he has a way to speak that doesn't trigger them too much....so they let him speak lol
Women like to blame men as all narcissists to avoid being held accountable
This is why you look for young women that aren't damaged
Lots of young women damaged because dad let them down
@@fortencuales not as damaged as the women in this panel
It's hilarious when onlyfans women want their pictures back, or removed, but dont want to give refunds...😂😂😂
12:30 women are picky, yet there are so many single mothers.
The problem is women have fetishized men, that mixed with their hypergmy is a disaster
Because they do not want to become mother it’s too much work and responsibility they want to,be kids until they are 59 yr old
The girl with the dark hair is every bit of what the topic is.
Dam all these 304 on the table are the problem
Fake filters makeup ect hair abd nails fake = A.I version of you thinking your views likes loves w e messages dms are for you!
Let me tell u a secret victoria😂
Thats is not you!
Watching this show from Belarus, u fa-s.
I like your situation in America, because I hate unated states🙂
Trained to do what? They never explain what they were "groomed" to do. It's cope.
Being trained. Do you all hear this? She’s trying to blame her behavior on a dude! Unreal!!!!
this chick in black near michael seems bored 😵💫
She's there to collect whatever the pay they get for being on the podcast
she's hot but her input is limited. who is she?
She literally had checked out of the conversations and chose to be bored and just look MISERABLE scrolling through her phone. It was annoying me watching her bored ass face. It was distracting, i would have kicked her off the panel or forced her to engage.
She look annoyed 🤣💀🤣
She’s definitely been run through, and is numb to life. 304 all the way.
I dont get the point of all these podcasts there all the same! So called adults sitting around talking about BS with no real substance! Here is the solution to mens problem in the west just ignore these fucking women! I mean stop entertaining all their nonsense and talking about it. Everytime these men entertain and try to convince these lost and already doomed women the men lose! Ignore them, ignore them, ignore them problem solved!🤦
None of these shows have regular guys on there to confront these women and prove their points. 0. All these dudes are cut spend probably 2-3 hours in the gym a day. They are not the average guy.