"Shes not yours, its just your turn." - The problem with finding a woman worthy of marriage.
"The same girl that's the 2 year relationship for one dude, is another's man bang for the night"
Sun Tzu ~ The Art of War
There’s a reason why the phrase you can’t make a hoe a housewife exists.
You can’t make a fk boy into a father either. You can’t make an incel into a Denzel 😂
Modern feminists couldn't care less about stats
Women do not care about logic or facts. Only satisfying their own emotions.
Only people with questionable pasts think that your past says nothing about you.
Women: but MEN, but the PATRIARCHY......... 😭😭😭
Men will sleep with a wide spectrum but settling down and investing in are two different things. We will screw them and not keep them
pornstars calling non porn stars "civilians' Is some serious cope......
THE MEN ARENT HAPPY AFTER PORN , THEY GET DISEASES AND THEY GET DEPRESSED. MEN AND WOMEN IN PORN ARE KOWN TO BE DEPRRSSED AND HAVE MENTAL ISSUES. THEY USUALLY END UP DIVORCED. MEN SLEEPING AROUND GET DERESSED AFTER AWHILE, THEY CANT FIND ANY STABILITY.
Women in the West especially with social media are not worth the headache
I buy Magnums by the dozens
all these low cost slores will always try to justify why everyone gets a turn lol
I was stunned, the girl with the black hair is so beautiful until she opens her mouth, cant these women find a way to express themselves in an articulate, professional , clear way without so much cursing and crass? heavens..
She’s average looking. I can stand outside of a gas station for an hour in most cities and see ten girls who look better than she does, and most of them will be wearing less makeup.
Limited vocabulary, and inability to for a logical coherent sentence, is why they can’t communicate without foul language.
Correlation is not causation, but cause and effect are ALWAYS correlated.
That was a damn good synopsis of TRP and Evo psychology in 10 minutes.
I like that these people are having a nice and calm conversation. Good job.
There really aren't double standards for men and women, there's one standard that manifests differently between men and women. The world tends to honor "Hard" and shame "Easy." It's hard for a man to become desirable to many women just as it's hard for a woman to remain pure with nearly limitless options.
Women's trauma comes from the men they sleep with. A man's trauma comes from the woman he marries. 😂.
This idea that "your past doesn't matter to me" is ridiculous. Everyone's past impacts their present. It's like gum stuck on your shoe.
When a woman cheats, it's completely betrayal.
Lol as if it's not betrayal when men do it too. And don't give me cap that it's different. Namely guys often cheat for the same reasons as women.
Like a dagger in the heart type ish 💯.. Cause we KNOW exactly what it took for it to transpire into her letting that take place. Men and women are COMPLETELY different and we look at that type of thing occurring 2 entirely different types of ways. Alot of women assume we look at it like the way how they look at it, we don't. 🙅
@@AllanteGrissom - Don't assume. There are plenty of men who emotionally cheat just like women. And even if it was for vapid sex that doesn't make it any better either.
You could even say it's worse because if you love someone then you should therefore be that much more against meaningless sex.
Correct. It has no effect on men. Thanks for putting this out there with clarity and precision.
The more sexual partners I have had made me realize each woman is a different set up of problems. Not better, not worse. Dating a model seems great but is a headache. There is no trading up. Women with many partners either have a guy that really did it for them or still think they can trade up. I honestly think women lie to themselves moe.
In 2023 it's near impossible to find a marriagable woman. The vast majority have severe mental illness and are obese.
They’re not lying if they’re able to get better each time. What you don’t understand is being an attractive woman will always be beneficial to someone. Life as a single man will never be the same as life as a single woman
@@nicolem889 women have value up until they can no longer reproduce, men are never, ever guaranteed value, they must create it somehow.
As a man, I think the more sexual partners you have, the more you realize that more is not necessarily better. Maybe that is why experienced men tend to be content with the woman they married.
The more I've had I realize no matter how different the woman is, they all boil down to the same data
It's not a double standard - it's simply that the conditions are different..
exactly.... men have to work and earn it and build themselves up to get it. women have it thrown at them for free all day everyday.... for women to show they have worked and earned something, they have to keep their legs closed and maintain its value.
@@peab9179 Everything in women life its easy... see to keep their value they have to do NOTHING, to be beutyfull they have to take a bath and dont eat like a animal. AND STILL THEY FAIL.
If you've got good correlation, the cause doesn't really matter. Just avoid women with a high body count.
I'm 50 and have a body count in the neighborhood of 200. But I swore off marriage by the time I was 13. My mother was the prototypical 304 and wannabe "boss babe". I saw how she treated my father and step-father and knew I wasn't going to sign up for that nightmare.
So instead you opted to waste your time being a vapid F boy. Congrats!
@@kingmasterlord Broaden my horizons? I've known so many women that I know there isn't one worth risking my wealth, assets and peace of mind for. There is absolutely NO benefit to getting married.
I've watched my mother destroy 2 marriages and now she is almost 60 hanging with 304s 20 years her junior still thinking she is valid. It's so sad that in my heart I know she is a 304 and I know she can't be saved. She treats her daughter as a friend and can't understand why she doesn't respect her. All I can do is raise my daughter to be the complete opposite and explain life to her as it is. Not hide the truth and be honest with her.💯
Happiness in marriage boils down to how you treat one another. The more partners a woman has, the more she treats him like a contestant than a partner. At least for me, I don't care to spend any time with you if you can't be kind to me and respect me. Be loyal. Take care of yourself. Don't compete with me to lead the family. Don't compare me to exes. Appreciate what I do that is good.
A woman who doesn't care about a man's past is a woman who wants a man to ignore hers.
Although these women look trashy and are sex workers, they are still calmer and hella more respectful than Fresh and Fit’s women
Exactly. When it's their child, then they begin to give a shit. I've experienced that
They got it wrong, the reason I would not go for a corn star is not because I am intimidated, it’s because I don’t have a big supply of antibiotic on hand
It's funny that they keep "featuring" Rollo as a "guest" when it's pretty obvious that he's just one of the crew.
Dude is an actual loser. Looks like someone I used to bully in school.
For women, getting seggs is the equivalent of breathing. It’s an involuntary process where it’s always going to happen. Hence why we prize the female who has exercised solid discretion with how many people she lays down with.
Instead of virginity, it's now "how many." There's no physical proof for any number higher than zero, which is made up on the stop.
It's like metastasis literally for them.. Where as the same EXACT experience likelyness of that happening to us is laughable to try and even compare, night and day. Like salads and steaks. 💯
Look at the girls just creaming for rollo… he’s got “game” 😂
They will come to the realization that society will punish them harshly, there is no coming back or erase the past.
This whole podcast is pearls before the swine. More like a whistling past the graveyard discussion. How many pure women are here to be saved by these intellectual conversations? Hopefully a lot....
I'm not a high status man, I don't want that either.
You’re topic is interesting. I’m 70 now, in my lifetime I had under 20 sexual encounters, give or take. I can count the number of climaxes I’ve had, on one had with two fingers remaining. I settled with a man I can just get along, be a good father, be a partner in solving life problems with, rather than a reasonable sex life. Sex isn’t always a thing to get you through life.
only a women would say that or a dishonest man trying to be a white knight it is one of the most important things to a man and if his woman has more than ten partners it is nearly impossible to see them as their significant other, what would make them special it is all about being a provider and nothing else
She says his high body count doesn't matter to her as long as he doesn't have STDs. I highly doubt she demands medical proof before hopping on the C-carousel.
women dont care because women's performance in bed doesnt matter. a guy has to perform the top of his game for every girl, a girl goes until she finds a guy she thinks is good enough and then thinks "well i got him i can do better" then try to keep going. its never enough
As soon as I opened this video, it showed two girls at the table. The instant I saw them, the thought that popped in my head was, "Wow, look at how fake they are".
Fakeup covering their entire face.
I saw the red head with tats and a revealing top, more of the same.
Giving women free games needs to stop. Those who can't hear will feel.
Status is irrelevant, if a person is a good person. Status means nothing
Do you have a link to the IFS study? thx in advance
There is no such thing as high or low status. All that people see is their own ignorance reflected back at them while being absorbed in their own petty, limited thoughts. Welcome to earth 2023...
Lol OK I gotta ask. Is being rich or poor a status? And one more.
Are there winners and losers in life?
@@tavinwallack24 the only real status is if a person is self realized ( enlightened ) or if they are ignorant of themself
Can you provide a link or at least a citation to the cross cultural study regarding appearance preferences, aggressiveness, et al mentioned in this video? Not that I disagree with it, but it's useful to have the citation when folk question the results.
no its not usefull. What is usefull is being able to argue common sense without the need to bring up citations.
@katepro5451 funny, what I find most useful is arguing verifiable "fact" as "common sense" generally means little mire than "agrees with one's prejudices" (for good or ill). What people consider "common sense" varies depending on what they already believe.
I can take it a step further. yes, a brief fling will not (did not) affect my main relationship. I am also perfectly capable to maintain another simultaneous long term relationship. this is how I've lived for years. I think the assumption of monogamy as a goal is an underappreciation of human abilities. experience tells me that more than one partner serves all partners better than an exclusive one-one relationship 🏝😎👯♀🍸
All 4 females are basically the same person
All 4 billion females on earth are basically the same person. They care nothing for logic and facts, only about satisfying their own emotional needs in the short term. Once you understand that, you’ve won.
How are you people not tired of having this SAME CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER
The hosts seem too clever for the girls....😅😂🤣🙃
Re: the whole men asking cheaters if they fucked, and women asking cheaters if they love them makes sense, considering the first thing that comes out of a woman's mouth when caught cheating is usually "it was just sex/it meant nothing" as though it makes it better.
Its not a double standart... its different preferences and biology.
We are repulsed by a women with "experience"
When a woman gets bottomed out theres only so many men that can please that spot.
All it takes is her getting her cheeks THUNDER CLAPPED 1 time by a Chad or Tyrone.. or even a Pookie or Ray Ray. Just 1 time and the cycle is triggered, and then she will never be the same ever again. Innocence GONE, cheeks blown out, and her entire outlook on sex vs relationships is forever tainted. 😔 I can't make this up.
Deep down, all men are self-conscious. if his woman has a high body count, that means mentally he's gotta be better than all those guys or she's just gonna go back. Some don't even try
Smart men refuse to get Married these days!
The guy that wrote the survey on "women are happier single" forgot to add "because they can no longer stop comparing exes to their current partners and will always look for something better"
That’s so true that is so true man if they have a Lotta partners, it doesn’t matter if women does it does matter big-time everything collapses in the marriage study at the study shows us here’s one for you. Everything women voted for 60 years ago has hurt women 60 years later
Been to Florianopolis several times.
What site/tool do they use to figure out the percentage of men that meet their criteria?
who would ever want to marry someone who was an "adult" entertainment "star"? I would rather be single forever than have to deal with that.
Lmfao....as long as he is clean...I think we call this the "low life"..
For modern women, marital longevity is about relationship feelings in the moment. For men, its about loyalty within the pack. Women seem to learn how to behave in a pack from a good father-daughter relationship. Too many hit-&-go partners for a woman just messes up a woman's ability to focus on a relationship commitment to the pack; with both their man and their children.
To be fair one of the bigger male porn stars had a breakdown after a scene while driving home and supposedly asked himself "how'd I get so far away from God" and turned his life around and got into religion. He described it in an interview. I also wonder how many women who get heavy into sex with men are already damaged which is why they go in that direction in the first place. They might have also turned out very depressed one way or another just due to their personality.
I find that attraction and that initial lust phase doesn’t follow any sort of logic or set of standards but will happen due to liking the personality on top of looks.
If your gf-bf past don’t matter, the history of the house and car don’t matter either. 😂
for a woman its about half dozen and anymore than that it taints her soul. for a man anymore than 12-24 it taints his soul. its just enough to gain experience it terms of whats toxic and healthy behavior then determining what actually deserves to be passed on.
Y'all leave out the REAL reason, as to why men despise run through women, while women respect men, that run through women. It's THIS difference!
Intellectuals don't have this problem. Our stimulation comes from our minds interacting with ideas. A woman approached me in a restaurant while I was reading and enjoying my lunch. She asked me if I wanted company because I was sitting alone. I told her I was not alone. I told her I was in the middle of reading a book and a book is considered the perfect companion. She sat at a table across the restaurant and stared at me and I just smiled and kept reading and eating. It has happened to me more than once. I decided many years ago that if I could not find a suitable mate by 35 years old, I would remain single. It's been a great decision.
Hollywood:
"i know the directors"
im sure you do
It is very telling that Michael and Rollo will cite the study of sexual partners from the IFS, but not the research of sexual partners from the NIH and CDC.
Your past effects your future....
Chuckle. I feel sorry for the fellas that have to pick a wife from this bunch.
Men: "States facts. Gives examples. Sites sources."
Women: "I just feel"....
and women wonder why men are put in charge more often than them.
Married 32 years. Very happy with my adorable husband! I am 57 and I had 4 sexual partners before my husband. He is 60 and he had 13. Neither of us has had an affair. I know I haven’t and I have no doubt he hasn’t.
I say all this because, if my husband had had 30-100 partners before me, I would have been VERY intimidated by that! I automatically would think he was a player or became bored with a woman very easily. The minute I heard that, I would have been gone!
Trust me, sex in 32 years of marriage ebbs and flows. (It is wonderful, but that does not mean our desires always match at the same time.) If my “ebb” coincided with his “peak,” and he had a high body count, I would assume he would find it elsewhere. That is a time for communication, NOT cheating!
Heres a truth too... most men don't like meeting some man who is bragging he banged his wife and made her do a lot of naughty things...
This is a classic case of telling your demographic what they should want instead of actually asking what they want. Imagine the shit storm that would happen if a woman was shamed for wanting a man over 6ft tall.
Male and female brains are not the same, this is a fact. Different brains work and think differently, you can accept this, or rail against it. Either way, nothing changes.
Talking to 304s about promiscuity is a waste of time. Women feel that they are equal to men but want men to coddle them. They are 100 percent wrong.
If a man is looking for a woman to marry, there is nothing in the world more important than finding a virgin. That's it.
My first was also a virgin.
When she ended it, it absolutely broke my heart.
I reached out, 4 different times, over the years, only to be rejected and learn she was going down hill.
Her mom always thought we should have stayed together, and encouraged me to “keep the flame burning. I want you to marry my daughter”
We really _Did_ have a special connection., and I think about her every day, and imagine the life we could have had.
I never married or had kids.
3 years ago, I learned she self-deleted.
I’m in a good relationship now, with an increasingly feminine woman who loves everything about me.
But every summer, I drive the 3 hours to the old neighborhood where my coming of age story happened. Everything is the same. The set is frozen in 1982. The actors, however, are all gone.
@@alexanderhamilton8585 My deepest condolences for you're loss. And with all due respect to her her family and to you, she really missed out on a wonderful person and opportunity that could have been. May she rest in peace. 🙏🏿🕊🤝
Why does rollo say merch like hes on fnf constantly
I think that's a narcissistic take to say men can go hook up with 17 women in a weekend and go back to their wives like nothing happened. That is a total sociopath that could do that. The thing with body counts is very true with women about being able to bond and be happy in a relationship. For men though, men that can jump into bed with another female, there is no way he has love for his wife in that same token to be able to hook up.
It's why both men and women should never go with cheaters. Period. Cheaters have no issue with it, and will be serial cheaters. That's a total lack of self control from both. And though the affect is different, it's still a massive affect for men and women that do cheat.
I think it is a more complex question, why exactly do some people cheat. Because in my understanding people are different. Some use it to stimulate their ego by fucking around, some people have a physical itch that their partner won't fulfil if for example she/he doesn't have an equally high sexual desire in general, some people do that not for the sex itself but the intimacy that partner might provide them as a cope for depression if they are unhappy. I suppose we can think and come up with more different reasons why people do that and even more different ways to see if people hate themselves for it, or make an excuse for themselves etc.
In a proper marriage built by trust and companionship people can and will debate different things and search for solutions, but in an average not that great marriage if one side has no interest in a dialogue it won't work. This is also why in Asia where there are still premeditated marriages and those done for social status, both partners ignore each other beyond what is required of them and fuck around. They only hide it not to get socially reprimanded for it.
Unfortunately and I say that because I've been a serial cheater my whole adult life. I'm 34 now. I recently got somewhat of a handle on my sexual self control. It has always been a ego thing for me to sexually satisfy women. Even after being married and engaged. I loved all my partners genuinely. My cheating never affected the way I felt about them or treated them. Kids came into the picture and now I can actually say no to women because being the best father had always been my top goal in life
@@tavinwallack24 I call bull shYt that you loved every one of them. You loved them stroking your ego and because you treated them with some affection for the act. You are conflating that with love. It isn't.
You say you control it now due to kids. That's because meaning and purpose was added to your life. Hence when a man finds those two things he can totally change everything about himself and shut off the worst parts of himself. That's how the worst humans can become entirely different people finding religion or something that gives them a reason for being.
0:57 He says normally adjusted men in the US will have 6-10 partners but in another pod he said average number for men is 5.
Its avarage... thats throw up due to Chad. Theres oter studys that show majority of the male population have 0 to 3 partners in their life. 0 to 1 its like 30%, 2-3 its 40%
I would love to be on your show. I’m 58 years old. I’m 5’7” 180. I make above 400K. I have never been to college. I haven’t had a sexual relationship in more than a year. Most women don’t see me at all. I never tell them my income. Usually my height is enough for 90% to rule me out.
Sows get lumped in with pigs. Thin blue line can get undone.
As said, correlation is not causation. They said, high body count women are depressed. It could also be, depressed women self soothe with multiple partners.
@4:30 Men can separate emotion from sex... Hell, we can have sex with women we don't even like! There's girls you take home to ma, then there's girls you just take home.
Men also delude themselves into thinking they can so easily seperate their emotions from sex. Namely if guys were really that capable then ED would be a non issue.
Rather men are so desperate to hold a facade of being an unfeeling F boy as if that was even anything to be proud of.
1,000,000% Factual. It's actually alarming that some women out there will refuse to acknowledge that as common sense, even though it literally is. 🐸☕🤷
Happines is a quality, that is true. But you can very much use divorce as a quantitative stat. And the more partners a woman has the higher chance of divorce
Ladies, it's all about validation. Men want to feel they've "won" by getting access to something special. The difficulty of "winning the trophy" determines the value of the prize. Men don't value promiscuous women because it seems that it doesn't require value to acquire
Imagine living one’s life as if you were sumthin’ special w/0 really knowing why: that’s modern female nature…
At this point, who gives a crap. If your a man still watching this stuff, its time to adapt and move on with your life.
It's funny how women always rationalize this thing.
In order to save face, they say that "men are insecure if they cant handle a woman with several past partners"
or "they are intimidated by such a woman"
This has nothing to do with insecurity or feeling intimidated, but women CHOOSE to fail seeing that.
It's more convenient for them cos they can "blame it" on men. You know... it's never women's fault, that's what
feminism has taught them, and they still believe it.
Also funny how women think they can have a massive laundry list of ckeckboxes that men has to fill
as far as qualities are concerned, but men cannot have even a minor list, even a simple preference
is rationalized by them as either insecure, or oppressive. That's because (again) feminism has
indoctrinated women to see themselves as either (s)heroes or victims, but never villains. The
role of villan is always exclusivelly reserved to be pegged on men.
What this all means? Nowadays is very hard to find a woman Who is inexperienced in having sex, so it is a toss up if you remained married for the rest of your life. The sexless lady will considered sex to be essential but not important, keeping the marriage, which includes children, together is important.
I just have to say Human rights are natural rights. Natural rights are based on the way things are. I think what was being referred to here is actually civil rights. Natural rights apply to everything on this planet and are most definitely apart of evolutionary psychology.
I assume study you mentioned is this on: -link deleted- IFS's Does Sexual History Affect Marital Happiness?
It always amazes me how people read these studies selectively. Especially men in red pill spaces. Study shows correlation between marital status and sexual history for BOTH sexes. Men and women are happiest when they had one partner and least happy with 20+ body count. LOL
And yet men in these spaces always say that body count affects negatively only women!
It's a harsh reality for men to accept that their body count matters.
Men in these spaces dont dispute the findings from that study in general. Every man i think, knows that body count matters but the variation is different with women. Have you seen how women fight that reality though?
They call men insecure, childish, immature and other shaming tactics to try and refute the irrefutable.
Some even go as far as claiming that women are evolving to be able to do the same things as men just to disregard the data.
I would its a difference of ignorance vs delusion. The men who know the findings but are still disingenuous when they present are less than the ones who don't know. And when it is presented, men are more likely to agree.
Cant say the same about most women though
That's not true. Men in these spaces absolutely dispute this studies when it doesn't fit their male narrative, all while using same studies to show how it effects women. It is absolutely disingenuous. There's no less or more of disingenuity, it's all the same.
And yes, a lot of women are quick to shame hearing this statistics, but it doesn't excuse men's behavior in any way. Just because women act childish a lot of the time, doesn't mean that men should do so also. @@iamsyourdadi
@@alivaja I agree that some dispute it but like i said, i think its rare and most also give the caveat that there is a difference and the explain a reason for the double standard. Because its true. It affects women and men differently-the threshold for women is lower and it affects women more.
No one should be disingenuous but you honestly cant compare the women's childish behavior and total disregard for the facts with the men acting rationally but twisting the data to suit their narrative.
Those are not the same at all
@@alivaja - These same guys want to claim as if they can separate their emotions from sex. As if we are all suppose to pretend that men don't have ED that is largely an issue of the mind.
Just really wish us guys would do themselves a favour and grow up out of this very peurile attitude as it relates to sex.
Rollo got so hosed and cut off on Dr Phil
Most women today has had many many partners
Yes. Preach it to them, brother. Teach them the error of their ways. Success! They have converted to the Red Pill and become nuns.
All that willing-to-show flesh in a single room and not a bottle of body oil in sight. All you want to do is argue with them. And you call yourselves men?
What's the point of giving these women a platform to advertise their content?
Think about it though for a second. If females at large exercised their right to reserve sex for marriage again, what guy would have multiple sexual partners to begin with? We aren't addressing sex for what it really is, procreation. Children marry two people together genetically.
Ladies once you have a body count doesn’t matter if your mindset on it changed it’s already too late. Yes you’ll still get guys and probably get married but these guys are the guys you really don’t want. I didn’t stay disciplined and build myself to get with a skank.
Hilarious how ‘cornstars’ call regular people civilians, as if they were part of the thin red line preserving society 😂😂😂
They are glizzy warriors
In the streets basically no criminals or people in the underworld are considered civilians. She’s kinda right as sex workers and prostitutes/tricks are not “civilians” from the street lingo.
Hahahahhahah facts
I believe "cornstars" is an outdated term. The newer term is "mattress actress". Just f.y.i.
@@reddevil00745able 🤣🤣🤣, gotta remember that one