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*I think the problem is the word “tithe” as New Testament believers are not supposed to tithe out of compulsion but to “give” from the generosity of our heart. And give knowing that we are aiding in the advancement of the kingdom as well as helping those who were for the kingdom.*
*Also this notion that the way we are taught to tithe today (charismatic Pentecost circles generally) because it proceeds the law is a bit disingenuous. Because Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in Genesis 14, and it was **_once._** It wasn’t to the church / temple and it wasn’t on a **_monthly basis._** And it was spoils of war given to a Canaanite king / high priest. If we look at the example of Jacob in Genesis 28, Jacob makes a pact with God telling God, I will you 1/10 of everything you give me, **_if and only if_** God will be with me, feed me, clothe me, allow me to possess this land (according to the dream) and return to my fathers house safely; then will I give 1/10 back to God. It was conditional. God if you do this for me first then I promise to give 1/10. But preachers do not teach only give tithe if God does something particular for you first. It is rather taught as, ‘you need to give your money or you will be cursed because you are robbing God’ - then proceeds Malachi 3. - even though Malachi 3 talks about tithing FOOD to bring to the storehouse. Not MONEY.*
*We need to be teaching giving and giving out of **_Joy_** and not **_compulsion._** That will really change things in the church. Tithing has a history of abuse tied to it unfortunately, and the prosperity movement has misused and abused this concept of “give and it will come back to you” (Luke 6) because Jesus is talking here about how we treat one another. How we judge one another, how we forgive one another and the manner in which we give to one another. But so often this verse is used as “well if you give this amount in money you’re going to receive it as much more in return” which isn’t what the scripture is talking about.*
*Let’s teach giving and not tithing. And financial literacy*
Well said!
Well stated!!!!!!!!!! I been saying this for years!
Awesome : ......... rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15
Probably the most spot on thread I’ve read! This is missing big time in the church. God Bless y’all 🙏🏽👏🏽
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 THIS
"For God loves a cheerful giver"
Amen.
Coming from the church I found Christ in, tithing was taught as something that honors our commitment to follow Christ. Now seeing a full view 13 years later, I whole heartedly agree with what you’re saying. It’s my pleasure to be able to give, because I was given so freely His gift. And I love to support the places I get my spiritual feedings. So church, music and soon ppl like you doing this great service.
Yeah amen
No scripture ever says to give money to show your appreciation for the free gift of salvation
Ever since I got my first job a couple of years ago I started trying to find where I put my money. Ruslan you put it in a great way, your money goes into what you value. I’m glad that I’m blessed to have a church to give to.
In the end it is a heart issue that needs to be expressed in real terms to a local church. Sometimes it's not even a tithing issue but a lack of worship to God and trust in the the gift of local church and it's leaders.
The fundamental problem is that preachers have abused their flock by emphasising the tithe rather than teach the principle of giving.if someone is at a 5% level and they can be faithful with that let them be.
It's the Holyspirit that changes the hearts of men.many preachers have become a stumbling block for the sheep by using Malachi 3 as a whip.
yeah maybe my church hasn't taught this way which is why I've never had a problem with giving.
Love your comment sister..l live in durham nc and the church main ones target black people poor communities beat us with malachi 3. I feel believe he needs the black brother on his show more...he don't get it. I just found him in January 2021.
Money is definitely a bondage for a lot of people. The problem is a heart issue. Many people thithe to get something from God in return, as if we could ever put Him in debt to us...paying money to get money....being promised healings and blessings for pay by pastors using scriptures out of context. One body, many parts. Some are in a season that the Lord has made them able to give, and some are not. We just need to have a right heart towards God in giving. It shouldn't be in expectation of personal gain, but by the leading of the Spirit in generosity of the heart. Not letting 1 hand know what the other is doing. Great topic points, God bless!
I was a tither for many years. I do believe in supporting your local body financially. I have learned that biblically speaking, studying the word of God in context. I would encourage people to read the book of Numbers in particular 18:2-6. Also the book of Leviticus verse 30 in particular. 11 out of the 12 tribes of Israel were commanded to tithe 10% to support the tribe of Levi. The levitical tribe were in charge of ministering and seeing to the other 11 tribesand taking care of the poor. After reading the entire book of Malachi and not just that 1 verse that has been manipulated it makes sense. I agree God may say give more or less. It's all about listening to Holy Spirit. I give more outside of the local church when Holy Spirit leads.
2Corinthians chapters 8-9 is about the collection for the poor Jerusalem Saints. They sold all they had to prepare for the 7yr tribulation, but got postponed because of the dispensation of Grace. That’s what 2Corinthians chapters 8-9 collection was all about.
Most people don't realize this but tithing is not about giving money to the church. Tithing is a form of worship to God. It's away of acknowledging that He is your source of provision. Giving Him the first fruits of your income is a way of letting God know you are depending on Him not your check. I get a since of joy giving Him the first 10%.
How is tithing worship and certainly how does tithing money even honor God when He never required a income money tithe
No scripture backs you up
Christians don't owe money to the church where rent is required if i 9:01
Since we tithe our finance was blessed,we decided 10 percent base rate everything else is extra to the Lord and we are faithful and God has blessed us so much.good video brother
When one truly loves... giving becomes natural just like Christ. The focus is not on the obedience of the law...but building the loving relationship with Christ.. then out of deeper love for Christ & people, giving overflows..
I think we should give with a happy heart. I could say God always bless me every time i tithe or give someone with a need. Churches have rent,light etc to take care of .. i think we ahoyld support out local church . But its not a for thing
Love when Ruslan gives all the info and then goes "Not telling you what to do, just something to think about" as we are all floored and rethinking everything about our life
Tithing is not a salvation issue. However, I have experienced and seen the yoke using malachi 3 has on believers today. Specifically using mal 3:8-9 to incite fear (you're cursed with a curse) in those that aren't giving and to the extent they are asked to give.
I believe that we should give and give and generously. Why wouldn't you want to give to a ministry you are benefiting from? Just give. It's so confusing to me that some of us don't want to walk in the full liberty Christ died for us to have. Give 5%, 10%, 20%, 30%, the whole check, whatever you're led to give.
I think so as well, but you might be wasting away your reward by teaching it as we are to be judged as well.
My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
James 3:1 NKJV
bible.com/bible/114/jas.3.1.NKJV
Personally I stick to the apostles doctrine. If the apostles managed to spread the gospel the way the did without mentioning tithing so should we be able to.
@Desire Of All Nations prove to us please.
Giving in the early church was to assist fellow believers in the local church and sometimes to believers in other cities. Too much money given in church goes toward the upkeep of buildings barely occupied while many church members suffer financially. Part of the issue is our obsession with thinking that in order to be a church family, you need to acquire a building.
I’m a cheerful giver when I’m in a position to help someone in need. That’s what an offering is. You’re giving from the heart whether it’s money, food, clothes, etc. That’s the difference between a tithe and offering.
Robert Morris does a really great sermon series on giving.
If most people use “10% goes to the local church” for giving, can someone share with me where we get that? I really want to comply with what is biblical but I don’t even have a definition of “local church” as far as a building in the NT. It was the local people they were yoked to from my view.
Unfortunately, you won't find it...By the guidance of the Holy Spirit, give wherever God tells you to give...He will never lead you astray, especially when it's dealing with something that belongs to Him for His Glory...♥️♥️♥️
by local church, it refers to your local assembly rather than youtube ministries or mega ministries you watch on tv. ppl will send checks to copeland, creflo, and joyce myers and then go to church and have nothing to give to the ministry that prays for you in the hospital, labors with you week to week, and works with your children
I believe you give what you can with love. Mother Teresa said to give the poor what you would feed Jesus. If you only have rice give rice. If you can do better, do better.
This has to be the best teaching I have ever heard regarding tithing/giving (period) Thank you!
"I kinda like sleep when I feel led" 😂😂😂. But yeah I agree 1000% with everything you've said. Christ came to fulfil the law and where our heart is, there will our treasure be
Give save spend. Good principle to teach your kids. Good
The context of Malachi 3 is the previous chapter ( which is man made). God is rebuking the PRIESTS, not the people... hmm
Ive just subbed to your channel. Tbh, how I see it is I give my tithe & offerings first to my local church then to others who are need & most importantly I give because its not even my money but God blessed me with it that is from a job, blessings etc. So what I own belongs to God so Ive giving it back to him. Plus I love my God hence I give..that's what motivates me. BTW, I enjoyed you & your brothers talking bout Tithe in the previous video. God bless.
🔥 great video
True, its not about the percent, its about the heart. But here the thing, once you purpose what to give, it become spiritually legal and you have to give it. To purpose is to promise what to give from the heart and if you don't follow through, you lied and break your promise. Some might disagreed, but that's okay.
Amazing! The REAL reasons for tithe/giving. Every do & dont *has DEEPER meaning for YOUR health & happiness. When you stray that's the exact point of vulnerability in your life for something negative -or- damaging (or detrimental). Every good & bad decision affects your life.
I must confess I don't tithe to my church. I have nothing against people who tithe to their church. That's alright. But I do not think it should be an obligation . However, my giving is over 20 percent of my income. I give directly to refugees in Africa and also help house refugees when they come to America. I have also been supporting my cousin whose husband left her in destitution with two children. In Zambia where I am originally from there is neither Child Support system nor welfare or the equivalent. I am extremely focused on ending child poverty through out the world. No child deserves to be destitute.
Good points. What do you think about giving to people who need help individually, as opposed to the church?
I don't agree with pastors who say the Bible requires church members to give at least 10% of their income to their church. It doesn't require that.
Although our standard is higher, it’s not a requirement for salvation, it’s a requirement for discipleship.
If people would get that, we’d see many people saved and living in the freedom of Christ!
Also who will give the church and who will make sure the widow, orphans, poor,sick people are take care of ?
Preach/Teach the truth:
Seedtime and Harvest /Sowing and Reaping You might be surprised how much money comes in!
Tithe
1.become a traditions of men making the word of GOD of none-effect!
If you know tithe is not for today and teach it because you think the money will fall off!
2. telling folk they cursed, becomes manipulation or witchcraft!
The recipients of tithes in the Old Testament are priests in service to God. In the New Covenant, we give freely to those who serve the Lord by serving us and 10% serves not as a rule but as reasonable guidance. I’m challenged from time to time and reminded that while I earn money, He gives me what I need and in kind I should be willing to provide for others.
From Leo: I have been tithing and giving above for 6 decades. Never tithed out of compulsion, but figured it was a good pattern for obedience. Always to a local church, and to missions before anything else. We have always had what we needed in lean times, and been blessed in good times. I have never felt like obedience was a plan to get rich, at least in this world. GOD has always been faithful, why shouldn't we?
Systematic, biblical tithes were taxes, not gifts, and they were never received from earned wages. The principal(s) of giving is an entirely different matter. Giving must be done by freewill choice, not by compulsion. That's not what a systematic, biblical tithe was. It was a payment, only not received as money. One can certainly choose to give 10% (or any amount) regularly to their local church and call it a "tithe" if they want but there's no biblical mandate to do so. However, giving is central to the Christian worldview whether it be money or otherwise.
Truly love the content you been putting out brother thank you God bless 🙏
Your level of reaping depends on if your sowing on good ground or not
Definition of the good ground according to Jesus is to keep hearing it: But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.Luke 8:15
@@kingdomquest2521 Exactly, but the bible talks about agriculture as well. If you drop seeds onto concrete nothing will happen, but if you sow on rich soil you'll have a harvest. I've given to churches that were on fire for Jesus and I was blessed. I've also given to churches that were not and I was always in lack.
@@stayfocused597
Luke 6:38 is a spiritual law not a hit or miss scripture. If it were hit or miss you will be gambling every time you give.Luke 6:38 is not talking about the church you planted money into....... its talking about you planting the seed of scripture into your soul to be blessed by your offerings by patience .I believe God is more interested in you believing the scripture than who you give it too- to his glory.
@@kingdomquest2521 God cares about our bills, Trust me lol. He has came through for me so many times!
Correct me if I'm wrong, I always thought that tithing back in Biblical times was for the priests because they didn't work instead, they studied scripture and people could give them 10% of their crops or money.
@Desire Of All Nations Abraham gave 10% to the priest but the rest of the spoils to the King of Sodom (spoils not his income). Jacob promised to give 10% IF a number of requests were met first. Not really an example to follow. Check out scriptures.
I think some can give finances to support the church, while others can give time and talents. I know I get to involve myself at church, and I choose to spend my time with Family and Ministry outside of the church. I give from my net so the church. I trust they can spend it wisely on the matter of the church family. My wife and I had this conversation early in the marriage. It wasn't easy as neither of us was practicing Christians. When hard times hit, we continued, it created strife as I was less generous than when I had extra. 10 years later, we are more financially fit than ever before. I believe that it was our position on this matter that has brought us through many challenging financial times. In high times I can pray this is all yours, God I'm just the farmer, and in the low times, I can have the same prayer and say, God, this is all yours. I'm ready to work the harvest when you see fit.
Also some of us as Christians need more financial literacy to be better money managers so we can give more. That’s being a good steward,I believe the church should teach more financial courses to help their members.
Bro I love this content!
Ruslan, let's talk about what giving to "God" really means. I've seen so much money go to things that I don't value in churches, that I don't believe that giving to "church" means giving to God. Pastors don't talk about this enough. Let's really talk about what is valuable and what is not so valuable with regards to the money the congregants give.
Have you seen Pastor Robert Morris message on tithing? I like what he says about it
I'm not bitter or jaded but I needed to be sequestered from church to weed out religiosity and ppl pleasing. God will soon release me to go back. But I do love God and serve him
Do you set goals for giving and tithing? Meaning I want to earn x so that I can give Y?
Tithing/ giving is intended to be a joy and a blessing, even though sometimes it's not the case in the church today." For God loves a cheerful giver." 2Corinthians 9:7. I think what happens is the secular world sees certain preachers making a ton of money and it shows by what they wear ,drive ,live and what other things they spend their ( or our ) money on and unless that church is transparent it is no wonder why people are not fellowshipping. Of course a lot of it has to do with not managing our money right. Me included. Also it is not all about money. You can also be generous with your time ,open your home, provide food etc...
but where in the bible does it say that you give to your local church? it says give to the poor
Unfortunately, it doesn't. Give by the guidance of the Holy Spirit cheerfully...simple.
My question about tithe is All The Times I didn't yet God still provided...🤷🏾♂️ I give because he gave it all
I think this triggers people because our heart is attached to our money… our heart happens to be the only thing GOD wants from us. Perhaps this is why GOD has called us to tithe/give 🤔
We're not jews so the commandment to give 10% is never binding to gentiles everywhere. However the concept of charity or tzadaka is found both in the NT and OT, which is what the church should do. Give generously. If you want to see your place of worship able to overcome financial circumstances especially during Covid. Pray and give
Also rememberit's 10% of your crops and what you grow. Never really talks about money. Money is ok too though.
Also a reminder that everything and anything you'll ever get comes from God who looks after us all.
This is one reason why I was afraid of going to seminary school, because I was afraid no church would want me preaching giving unto the church for the futherment of the gospel of Christ and not necessarily a mandatory tithe.
Dope video 🔥
We GET to give God our first and best. Time, money, etc. We GET to. Salvation is a gift, there is NOTHING we could ever do to earn that.
If the pastor is teaching you God’s word. You will want to give, even above and beyond. The churches that give a morsel of God’s word, usually will resort to hard pressing their church members for money, and it’s never enough. Being a good an effective pastor is no different then doing an exceptional job. The money will be there. The cup will runneth over. Being under the exceptional will always be teaching you more of Jesus.
I kinda upset the church I used to go to by saying that I believe in generosity and that tithing was not a requirement
Oh I KNOW if I said that at the church I grew up going to... it would've been met with discontent followed by scriptures thrown at me!! However, he did a really good job of explaining the REAL REASONS in this vid.
Similar to other non essential acts, such as acts, or holding the sabbath, Does this show a person's closeness/ walk with Christ? Meaning if I do not practice tithing, does that show my lack of faith?
I don’t think so.
I'm so on the same page bro.
I do tithe but not out of law but out of choice.
I realize the power of generosity and I go over 10 percent .
But I know my righteousness is not found in my giving
Got sat down from being able to participate in my church for not tithing. I played for the choir, did the sound engineering and other things.
The thing is Paul was vehemently teaching against circumcision (while circumcising Timothy for convenience sake)....so if you know tithing as taught today is wrong.. we might do well to vehemently deny tithing as a commandment to the NT church.(Even though you may give 10% as a base rule, I do).
Sad thing is that if you notice most churches ask for money right after praise and worship because people are emotional and on a spiritual high they use that against them because people are more likely to give and give more. That's called manipulation and its a sin. These pastors are gonna pay a hefty price on the day of Judgment
I think what’s difficult for me is that there has been a long running joke in Christian culture about tuning out during Leviticus and Numbers, where we find a lot of context to the principle of tithing and the book of Malachi.
I'm not even going to church but I give.. I see the result of a life of giving
I don’t think religious institutions should demand their members money. Salvation is not for sale. Rich people aren’t more loved by the Lord . We should give secretly what we can. Financial situations of families are different and complicated. I’m not suggesting that people should hold their money. All should give as much as they can when they can. To be fair this normally means more than a minimum tithe. I however don’t belong to a small church. We give weekly in an envelope. The church as a physical structure is a small part of church in my opinion. Generosity and love should be shown quietly in a Christians everyday life. We are the church and are required to spread Gods’ words to everyone. I am very troubled by churches dictating to members membership fees. People will give. They know the Bible. We all know what God requires from us. Policing us takes away our freedom to comply willingly with his teachings.
I'd like to bring up something else about those verses in Malachi. It does not say that they weren't tithing. It says to bring the whole tithe into the storehouse so there will be food...
But what were they doing with the money brought in? The priests were robbing God. Probably bought an airplane
Motivation is key. If you give to get something, your motive is wrong! Don’t expect to get blessed! Prosperity gospel has totally destroyed the whole principle of giving.
I tithe faithfully and that’s my choice and have seen the fruits from my tithing. I’ve also experienced negative things that happened to me out of selfishness of not tithing. It gives me peace knowing that money doesn’t consume me. But check this out, if you’re investing the money into cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, frivolous materials that aren’t being used to advance the kingdom then that person has a serious problem especially if you call yourself a Christian. I use to battle those addictions along with the club life party lifestyle and I lost more than I gained from those bad decisions.
I don’t even know who Bryson Gray is... 🤷🏻♀️ lol.
Tithing, the 4th commandment, the biblical dietary laws, I’m seeing a pattern here and it’s not good. Looks like human logic is exalted above the word of God nowadays . I just wonder which biblical principal will fall under this “unfortunate circumstance” next. 🤔
I don’t think the issue is should you give I think the real conversation is where should you give. We as Christians should always give whether it’s money or time or other resources but God has called us to give to more than just our local church. There are causes and family’s around us that need our resources as well as our local church and sometimes God directs us to give to different missions.
I think the tithe limits our giving. Why not give more? Let God purpose in each person's heart what to give. Let God purpose in your own heart.
I Think we need to appreciate the types & shadows of scripture, Heb10:1 which was mentioned the The literal and principal of the law. tithing However & spiritual abuse on this topic goes deep & is very ingrained in church culture, what i what to bring out here is, what the gospels say about giving or generosity?
Luke 6:38 mentions giving & it shall be given however its not Specific & in what form, yet preachers label it as money, from Jesus's perspective in my opinion giving is a universal principle and when we limit our giving and generosity to money alone I think we missed the bigger picture, also give to whom, where limits the power of a culture Jesus was encouraging which today is overlooked. In Paul teaching mentioned its a heart issue & us Recognising the need for some equality in our generosity when people are in need & when people are doing well that we should consider others from our own abundance which leads towards Thanksgiving which God is glorified in everything 2Cor 9:12.
slightly moving across from this point I think all pastor & church leaders should work a day job otherwise it breads a social separation which in my opinion sill reflects a OT priestly ministry perspective & can lead to Some level of spiritual abuse in financial matters, ministry should not be heavily on one man, as we have enough resources to share the responsibility of the community and that's what the apostles did in serving tables and still maintaining preaching the gospel, and Jehovah's Witnesses seem to do it well too?
something for us to consider🙏🏾
Yes of course we give but tithing is of the old testament and the levitical priests let's just not call it tithing for the context does not apply to us
Watch Kevin Ewing on UA-cam video called “ Tithing was a law for who?”
Excellent analysis - Jesus called us to a higher standard, for sure! And we certainly get no credit for meeting some minimum target like a tithe.
Agreed but sadly that higher standard very rarely amounts to 1/10.
I would give over the tithe if they would stop saying my money is cursed if I don't give a tithe. Now I just give the tithe only every month. They were telling people to not stop tithing during CoVid and people
were going hungry. If a pastor is pulling down 100k a year and their members are on welfare. That is not fair. Is the pastor tithing, no by default they are not, the source they tithe to pays them. I'll give a tithe, but I think it is a little unfair.
Mark 12:41
It is about stewardship. Giving is a faith and heart issue. If we know that God controls and own all things and you will give with a cheerful heart and have faith that he will provide. Church officials set the 10% standard to keep the church running and also because they know people will not willingly give if you don't set a standard. To me, you should give to good soil and if you are getting fed at the local church.
I’d love to talk to you about this , they teach a curse and that’s wrong
What is the law we live under? If these questions of tithing are still a thing, then we are still on milk. Love is the law. Love God and your neighbor as yourself. Do this and live. If you follow love then you won't let your neighbor go hungry or homeless. There is no tithe. The fruit of repentance is...if one of you has two coats and someone has none, then give one away and the same with your food. What did Jesus say 3 times to Peter when he asked if he loved him? FEED my sheep. And if someone in your congregation is going hungry, you feed him. If he can't afford to pay his power,then you pay it. And sometimes it's going to cost you! Jesus said to sell all your possessions and follow him. And mostly the "church" is not doing this. They choose judgement over mercy. And this is a salvation issue as this is how we show that we love God. Nothing else matters next to this. 1 John3:14...We know we have passed from death to life, because we love each other. Anyone who does not love remains in death. And then in verse 16 -17 it gives the example of what that love is. 17...If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Then in 19 says this is how we know we belong to the truth...
I could give scripture after scripture about love. It's the golden thread thru the entire bible
The tithe makes no sense in the new covenant.
It was not about money....they were giving foods what they grown...also they didnt give money to a pastor,they collect it for poor brothers and sisters...so there is not only about money...if i am a photographer why i can not do sonething for church with my talent...why pastors are getting rich ...it shouldnt be just about money no no
Jesus said to Peter the children are free. Not free from one thing but owe something else. He appreciated the widow's mite, but the children are the children.
Sabbath to a normal man might be this or might be that, but to a boss it is imperative he gives his employees and even his animals the day off.
Paul implies the old law impossible to keep so we are all sinners. Jesus tightens up some rules but his main bag is not sin, but forgiveness. Forgiveness is a work, but it is a necessity
Tithing is scriptural same with generosity... let's not mix things up....
10% was given to Levites, because they were not given an inheritance like the other tribes were, their inheritance was God. They didn't inherit land to grow crops and provide for themselves, their inheritance was serving God in the temple. So, the other tribes gave 10% to provide for them. That being said, I think you have to make a jump to say that the local church in some way acts as the Levites did under the old covenant, it's really not the same thing at all. The model of the modern church is really the problem to this thinking. Biblically speaking, we're all priests of God, but we elevate pastors and ministers above others, and so we view them as being "more priestly" than the average church attendee, so we give the money to them instead to handle. It's rare to see a church teach you how to be a good steward of money and how to give to the poor, instead they commonly teach how you should give to them, and they'll steward it for you, because you're not a priest like they are.
Yes that's a holy God. The righteousness of which is revealed in christ is simply understood hence the simplicity of the gospel. You have been invited out of the ways and ignorances the gentiles into the holy nation and priesthood of Isreal, ofcourse not the one below but the one above which we are all brought into by the spirit and by grace .so we are now invited to proticipate and not by compulsion. If you can't see this commen theme in the bible then you miss out on alot of the gospel..by grace you are save and by grace we act .we are created for good to God and to the world which the apostles make it clear. Christ shows us that grace is revealed to us so that we are empowered to walk in all his ways whether you like it or not just as Paul said (walk out your salvation with fear and trembling). Grace is for 1st ,the promise of salvation and 2ed,the way of sanctification just as was shown in the wilderness and so therefore to obay God and do his word is only a benefit to us in this life .
Tithes was from food grown or spoils of war and for certain people in the bible. They followed certain things in bible days but jesus did away with all that by dying on the cross. Jesus talked about helping people in need but did he ever say to give to a church. We’re the church where Christ resides if you accept Him as Savior. The church house is just a meeting house to be with other Christians and hear word of God, worship and sing. The churches are the one who created this tithes thing to raise money. We quit tithing in 2019 after 33 years of faithful tithing. We give and God has blessed us, not cursed us. We do help people in need or if someone needs money. Every time we get a new pastor, which is pretty often lately, the pastor wants to fix up the old church building so visitors will like it so maybe they will stay. To me, I don’t care how a church house looks like, I care more about the preacher/teacher telling the truth of the bible and not make up junk to tickle the ear.
He denied Jesus being God? It’s a matter of time before he converts to ISLAM don’t be surprised.
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Deny your selfs and follow JESUS and believe me u will thithe
The problem is you keep equating tithing with generosity. If tithing still stands then the tithe specifically belongs to God and should be separated to Him. Based on this doctrine, tithing is completely different from giving. Tithing is returning what is Gods. So it’s a bit disingenuous to keep equating tithing as generosity this is where you keep misunderstanding us. It’s not that people don’t want to be generous it’s about looking at whether the doctrine of tithe (not giving or being generous - but the doctrine that God has separated a specific portion of ur increase, for Himself. In my church this is also taught as the first fruit, that u are not tithing correctly unless u pay ur tithe 10% FIRST before every other expenditure because the first fruit belongs to God and tithing should not be an after thought. If your being very honest and true to scripture u will admit that tithing is not the same I have even been taught that tithing is RETURNING NOT GIVING. You keep thinking people don’t want to give whilst that might be right it misses the point of the discussion which is whether tithing under the NT is biblical. I would appreciate it if u stopped equating tithing to giving or at least have a discussion as to why you believe that tithing is the same as giving?
I just literally made a video saying I don't believe we're under a literal tithe just like we aren't under a literal sabbath. but the principle of giving holds true. I'm not sure how you missed that. I couldn't have been more clear. 10% is a good gage but it's more about the heart and sacrifice then it is about a percent. Our life is not our own. in order to gain your life you must lose it. one can't serve both God and Money. we have the average christian giving less than 2 or 3%. hopefully we can agree those numbers are ridiculous and should change.
Yes I absolutely agree with you Ruslan, that is a heartbreaking number and I think the discussion of generosity and giving is something that definitely needs to be had. The problem is that the principle of tithing has absolutely nothing to do with giving. The principle behind tithing is found in Deut 14:22 - God instructed tithing so that the people of Israel could learn to “Fear the Lord always” which could translate as revere, honour and worship the lord. I believe that all Christians should have a lifestyle of giving and that we should honour God with our finances. And just like you I have set 10% as my standard of giving which I hope to increase. These are all amazing points, but if we are to do the bible any justice I don’t think they should be brought into the topic of tithing for the reasons previously stated.
Brother with all due respect, you are talking about your "feelings" and not scripture. Tell us why you feel that way but back it up with scripture. Don't talk scripture in general but have specific verses.
this is a follow up to a 60+ video where we covered all the scriptures of videos. this isn't a bible study. perhaps you have the context wrong. I'd go watch the first video.