John Deere S680 ProDrive hydrostatic pump failure. (Part 2)
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- In this video we continue repairs on the John Deere S680 hydraulic nightmare. We switch gears and go into replacing the hydraulic oil cooler and while we got the upper shields off, might as well fix the exhaust manifold gasket that's blown out! With this combine, you never know what you'll run into! #johndeere #johndeerecombine #s680
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Man, what a task! I can already see myself busy with this, 90% of the time looking for tools and parts like a real man. 'Where did I leave this and that?' Keeping everything organized is an achievement in itself. I am very impressed with your knowledge, skills and patience! Already looking forward to part 3 of this job.
What a difficult, complex job. Not only do you possess the high level of skills needed to do this repair but also have the patience required. Looking forward to the next video.
I’m think I’m gonna apply to be a tech at the local Deere dealership back in my home town after I get outta the Marine Corp.
I really like the way you go through all the other components and show exactly why you can't just slap a new pump in and go back running!
What I wouldn’t give to be there helping you. Fascinating. I really enjoy the education. Love the channel.
Great update, I felt your pain when you were struggling with those broken bolts. It's one of those 'the smallest parts take the majority of your time' projects. Good luck with the rest of the repairs, can't wait for the update!
What about the pain of the poor fellow that has to pay for all this
Sir, I take off my hat before you for that amount of patience with those exhaust nuts. You deserve every dollar of your pay!
You do fantastic work sir you are patient and willing to slow down when it calls for a softer touch keep up the great work 👍
Wow! What an involved and time consuming job. I can see why you keep mentioning that patience is the key to success. Well done sir!
It certainly is a time waster.
The design department put absolutely minimal effort into the scenario of how do we repair this machine if any specific part failed.
It has been put together and more parts added, then more parts to support shields, then electrical components then shields wangled in.
There has been far more effort put in to make the final product look clean and beautiful on the showroom floor rather than keeping a piece of equipment fully functional season after season
Wow, all I did was watch the whole thing but that was tiring. Great work as ever AND you film and edit your work too, professional as ever! By the way, in the book 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance' there is a famous quote ' before starting any repair, first get a peaceful mind'. Absolutely.
Wow, this would be an overwhelming task to keep up with parts. You are a true professional. 👍
I would have never dreamed that much carnage could spread so many places! Great job tracking it down and fixing it! Expensive repair - half new combine when done! Keep up the great work and videos!
Good thing that maintenance/ and repair costs are 100% deductible
You Sir are an inspiration! Don't worry, I got your back. I insert the curs words in the appropriate spots for you. I do like how you keep it clean. Thank you.
Fascinating repair project. You need to get some of those design engineers to help. Might improve the design of the next model
Amazing destruction within. Professionals do the best work. Your patience is commendable. I look forward to an update.
You are so right patience is the key 🔑 to success on particular projects like that. We run into situations like that quite often too. I love watching you guys keep up the good work 💪 Mr
Lol "oil keewler" you Midwest guys crack me up! Great work as always!
That there my friend is a Normas job you’re interested in watching. I can tell you this one thing though and I hope you enjoy it. Do not take it the wrong way that manifold boat. You are trying to get the bolts out of the washer on top of them broke off bolts, welded to the washer, the bolt then you will back that ride out there. The heat will work with you and it’s so easy. I’ve done about thousands of those you will enjoy it very good mechanic love watching You.
good job you are a patient man , sometimes its hard to not swear . its a lot eisier working on stuff that was made 15 years ago .
My luck after removing the broken bolts I would find a crack on that manifold. Sometimes I find adding tons of heat then taking break(back room temp) works best before trying to remove the bolt.
Great instructions on the exhaust manifold bolts removal, always a trick to break them without snapping the bolts off ( all but one ) PB blaster is miracle juice 😂
You techs are the Doctors of mechanics
Always satisfying watching a real pro work. Great Job!
Another Great Job Zeth!!! I liked your comment on a "little bit of heat goes a long way". Too many times I see guys heat up to cherry red right off the bat. Keep up the good work!
One technique for really tight bolts is to put tension on the wrench and then bang on it with a hammer; the two effects together are sometimes more effective together.
Oh the good old days when we had brass nuts holding manifolds and turbos on
Addicted to this channel!
A. I never had success with propane or MAPP gasses: $550.00 Oxy/Acetylene with $150.00 #6 Victor Rosebud and now I see results.
B. The bolt that broke off should just as easily been engineered to have a nut on the other end.
I am going through this on my 1999 Toyota Solara control Arm bolts. I despise the designers wisdom of attaching the control arms to the sub-frame. There is a nut in a cage inside the rectangular seal subframe. I have to literally cut in to the subframe to remove the cage nut which seized to the bolt. I then must weld back the removed part of the frame. Only vehicle I have ever worked on where control arm bolts do not go through a nut at the other end who's a wrench can be out upon.
Great content as always, enjoy watching your videos. You take pride in your work. Exceptional knowledge, it takes a lot of patience to perform critical tasks. Keep the action coming.Definitely look you up at the next one. Stay safe!!
I can feel that passion and commitment, keep up the good work!
Nice job ! I think they should be more filters installed in all machines using so many oil elements, then maybe protection will be better in that situations .
You should try and use Reverse thread drill bits drilling with your drill on reverse, many times the broken bolt will spin itself out and you will save a lot of time
I was a emergency vehicle technician for 15 years working on all apparatus equipment for fire departments, and never had to do the hard work that you do . I was making n $70,000 a year ....hope your making $100,000 + a year for what you're doing..
This is why I stopped using Snap-Off tools. Awesome dedication to doing the job and posting on Sunday. Great tips too.
You were on the right track to get those broken bolts out the easy way. Weld the washer and nut on like did. Then you need to heat the ear around the bolt with a torch until it's orange. Then use an impact to back it out. The key is to keep heating while you're spinning the bolt back out. It has to stay cherry red while the bolt is moving. If it breaks off. Quickly cool it with water to shock it and go again. We do these for our local implements all the time.
Зламані болти вихлопної системи це жесть, пощастило що кріплення турбіни гайки а не болти, теж би було роботи, 3 болти висверлював майже день, автору лайк, цікаво дивитись досвід майстрів, доречі у вас класний інструмент👍
Also found that candle wax worked for me when removing seized or rusted bolts.Heat just as you are doing then stick a candle to it and let it melt.
The wax will go where the lubricant will not.
Nice and interesting content - you definitely know your way around this equipment. On the upside you may get another few videos out of this one. On the downside you will have virtually fully stripped an S680 combine once this is done so won't have much more to show. What a nightmare - even if you are being paid by the hour.
Next time you pull manifold studs or turbo studs heat them up like you did and I use a block of candle wax, melt it in and wait just a bit and it come out like butter, let me know if it works for you! Keep up the great videos man!
I had a pretty good chuckle when you said you were going to try the extractor next
I don’t plan to ever work at your level. I’m an electrician and I really enjoy your video’s
Seth, I am really enjoying your video’s. Keep them coming please.
I like watching your tractor videos repair
Hey ZK YOU WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH WELDING A OVERSIZED NUT ON THE BROKEN BOLTS … but try having some water to douse the nut after you weld it to the stud !!…plus having a pare of needle nose pliers to hold the nut … it’s priceless … I was in a rush one time and was trying to hold the nut and welding wire glanced off and went through my glove into my finger … really hurt !
Blimey zeth what a job you have chosen to do .Looks like one step forward and six back at the moment . 😯😯
Yeah it’s a big project…
Sure enjoyed the video thank you
Just finished the last episode and checked the channel and 18 mins ago this one uploaded!
You’re welcome!
Great job, stay strong.
Awesome vid! Very informative and educational! Keep em coming!
For broken bolts my neighbor had a MAD machine. (Metal arc disintegration machine). That thing would chew a bolt up in a hurry. Glad he didn’t charge me for using it.
Thanks for sharing buddy I’m glad I don’t have to pay the repair bill lmao 🤣
Love seeing you do this job. The consequences of this pump issue is scary. I guess these failures must be rare. I assume current JD production has some protection designed in.
Cheers.
Yea right lol
Great video Zeth 👍 I got a 8345R MFWD clutch out waiting on a drum , Hub and
Discs that are back ordered. I hope it gets better. Keep up the great work. Hello from Firebaugh California
Thanks!
@@ZKMasterTech Zeth your the Man. Awesome stuff
Could there a filter to the pump so stuff could get stoped sooner? Thanks for the great job
Been there 1962 International Harvester Scout.
Good to see that I am not the only one strugling with manifold bolts!! 😅😅
These machines are really awesome...but looks like a nightmare to work on!
My dad would tell me to tuck my shirt in! Great channel great video!
Nice vice grip garage reference hehe
These machines are SO incredibly complex
Every wrench head should have a Metal Checker 9000. 😂
Wow, what a repair, you could make a career out of this one...Could not even guess how many hours you have in this "project".
Punch the middle of the broken bolt a few times to disturb the threads slightly .. use inox welding rod to weld the washer and the nut to the broken stud..
Let it cool… try to see if it moves .. if not heat the side of the manifold and hit the nut/bolt and work back and forward
Bolt out ! Tap the bolt hole! Ready to go!
Drilling the hole can be so difficult when it’s so hard! From the heat of the exhaust!
Hey there ZK, I hope you're all well and good!
The complexity of today's equipment makes a repair such as this extremely time consuming, and therefore extremely expensive, which makes the old adage: "time is money" more true than ever.
When I see an EGR Cooler plugged like that, the first thing that I think of is lack of service on the cooling system, which means changing both the coolant and coolant filter on recommended intervals, and also using a coolant additive if recommended.
I believe that cooling system maintenance is the most overlooked service of all.
Once again I commend you on your thoroughness, neatness, and overall attention to detail. Kudos to you young man!
I hope y'all have a good one!
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌👍🇺🇸
I can just imagine the poor farmer that owns this combine sitting at home watching these videos and getting more and more bummed out. Could he be so upset that he’s seeing red over this?
I finally found ONE instance of where being an Ag tech looks easier than a german car tech. Id kill to have that kind of top side access to all the turbo studs! Besides that one instance everything else looks so much harder. lol
How many days did this job take? When you first started describing what you needed to be done I thought ,,,this is going to take months! Glad there’s guys like you who enjoy this cause I wouldn’t have the patience !
Sometimes putting tension on the bolt with the box of a wrench and giving it a good wack with a hammer helps
Swedish supertip for those broken bolts. Take a short piece of like 5mm flatbar. Drill a hole a little bit bigger than the bolt,like 10mm. Weld it on top of the bolt thru the hole and tap the flatbar piece back and forth till it gets loose. Works way better than the nut trick.
Thanks for super good videos! 💪
Well done so far seth
Excellent tips thank you
Great job covering a complex fix. Just curious if this is a warranty job or not?
The 3 exhaust bolts (to the EGR cooler). Torque to 26 ft. Lbs. is spec. But usually at 22 ft. Lbs. you can feel they are stretching so stop there.
The exhaust manifold must be perfect for those bolts to hold, so a new one that is not Work Hardened is a good idea.
Those bolts should be 10 mm and not 8 mm.
When you use the welding method with broken bolts don't try backing them out all the way immediately. Break them loose and the rock them back and forth. Apply plenty of penetrating oil in the process. Even if you break the first nut off in the process, weld another one on and keep going. I have never had one that I could not get out. Even when the bolt was over a quarter of an inch deep in the hole.
good
You're having to get into so many parts the machine is halfway to rebuilt. And the patience you have. "I need to pull this part out, just a 15 minute job, but there's another two hours just taking off other stuff before I even get there." Great machines, just not straightforward at all.
Keep going fella. Remember, when your up to your ass in alligators it’s sometimes difficult to remember that you went in to drain the swamp…!
Thanks for sharing 👍
When you are drilling a broken bolt like that, you might try a left hand (reverse) drill bit. I find that often when I get close to the minor diameter of the broken bolts the remaining part of the bolt will grab and pull out with the bit.
PB Blaster is good stuff just don't inhale when you get it hot... Well if the customer fusses about the bill just have him look at the video. It is self explanatory as to why you went to the extreme you did to purge the system. I know it is probably tens of thousands or dollars for the repair but it will be good as new when your finished...
complex job, well done, I hate to thing about how many bushels of corn is required to pay for it, looks
very, very expensive.
It looks like it would be cheaper to scrap that than to fix it . Feel sorry for the owner. 😯😯😯
Old farm trick is to use wax (like a candle) instead of spray on hot bolts.
It is obvious you want to tear down that hydra stat !
That clone of you is a great help❤
Fantastic video, I feel for you, I've been there.👍
Did you open cut open the oil filter to see if the is metal in the filters before moving.
Nice work man
With such a rebuild, I can’t even begin to imagine how much that cost with all of the time, parts and labor.
You would have thought there would have been a screen coming off the hydro pump that failed.
Wow this seems like the Neverending job!
It is!
Wahnsinn wievielte Teile zu entfernen sind um an die besagte Stelle zu kommen, Respekt vor eurem tun!!
LG.Herbst Johann
Doch nicht der einzige deutsche der ihm guckt🙆🏼♂️
@@twister9255 Wir sind viele! Also naja mindestens drei! 😂
Wow, with this design I imagine the designer had the JD service shops in mind or else they should have to do time fixing this complex construction and maybe it'll be easier in the future?
Man doing all that I'd replace the water pump fan drive the belts and everything on the front of that machine even if it didn't need it but doing all that to get back in there
Also I feel so terrible for this Farmer. He's out of warranty right? He is going to get taken to the woodshed on this one. Poor, poor soul. Thats the price of being a farmer tho, sadly... and also a terrific advertisement for why having a payment or lease might suck for always having a new payment, but damn that warranty would be hitting so good right now.
Yeah my uncle brought a new combine about 4 years ago and that's the first thing you did was tear the exhaust manifold off of it and put all stainless steel hardware in it
How many times do you refer to the video to check on routing? I’m in the same field and take a ton of pictures because we all know sometimes with the parts hold ups you could very well be waiting a good amount of time before reassembly. Good job keeping the camera on target and yourself out of the way!!
I would love to check out you tool chest and shop😊
I’d be trading this baby in asap!!
Looks like the radiator and AC condenser should be checked while in the neighborhood...🤔
Whats the preventative measure for this disaster?
Does changing oil every year help?